The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Dr. Jamal Bryant Talks Social Media Ministry, Political Firestorms, Target, Druski, Principle Over Profit + More

Episode Date: February 17, 2026

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Shalamey the God, Jess Hilarius Envi and Lauren LaRosa are out today but we got a special guest in the building Pastor Dr. Jamal Brian is here How you doing, my brother? I'm doing great, good to see you. I love that sweater you got on. I do too, thank you.

What does MLK Jr. mean to you, brother? Man, he means don't fight people. I got to remind myself sometimes. You just got to have peace. It's a difficult thing. It's easy to say it's hard to do. You know, we was having a conversation that Jess got in trouble for because...

What? When the guy came into your church and you said he should be arrested, right? Jess was saying that y'all should just beat his ass. Because she said when she, in the church she used to grow up in in Baltimore, they used to beat people. Dang. No, don't say it. My mother will call me and get no shop. And her mama said, no, that is not true.

No, but I've raised it. Not even he should be arrested. What's crazy is he's a pastor who left his church in Alabama and drove an hour and a half to disrupt somebody else's church. But the catch to me, Charmaine, is don't arrest him. Arrest his wife who filmed it. And do it on the same principle. that you all arrested Don Lemon and Georgia Forte.

So if you're not going to deal with the protester, deal with the journalists who captured it. Has there been any movement on that? Nothing. Wow. Nothing. Now, do you know how fast we'd have been arrested if we beat them old white people up? Yeah.

I'd have a go from me right now. Please, release Pastor Bryant. No, it's inequitable in America what justice is supposed to look like. justice for white evangelicals is who agrees with me. And if you don't agree with me, then you have to pay a penalty and a cost to it. How do you personally balance righteous anger, right, with spiritual peace in this world that is constantly on edge

and constantly trying? Yeah, well, you've got to remember people just want to make Jesus weak and absent of testosterone. wrong. He kicked over tables and pulled out whips. He cursed people and said that you were out of order. He said to pedophiles off Epstein Island, it's better

for you to put a rock around your neck and jump into an ocean. Yeah, people want to pick and choose the lane that Jesus was in, but I think that we've got a responsibility to speak truth to power. You know, what's the difference between being

a loud pastor and a listening pastor? Because I feel like you do you do both. Yeah, I think that you have to do both. Theologian said you've got to have a newspaper in one hand and a Bible in another. Who I am concerned about is preachers who say nothing about nothing.

They don't speak to a different lane. So if you can't say anything about the Epstein files, are you going to say something about immigration? If you ain't going to say nothing about immigration, are you going to say something about affordable health care? If you ain't going to say something about affordable health care, you're going to say something about the defunding of

HBCUs. If you ain't going to say nothing about that, are you going to say something about the Endangement on Voting Rights Act? So find something. Otherwise, you're not a preacher. You're just a TED Talk speaker. Yeah, I feel like it's your duty in a way because you are a leader, right? And you're a community leader at that. So how do you sit in front of these people every Sunday

knowing that they got all these things on their mind and not talk about? And that's what I say, the white evangelical preachers who can find righteousness until it deals with Trump. I'm waiting on record for one white evangelical preacher to call out Trump and his minions on pedophilia. You're very quick to talk about everything else. We went from Black Lives Matter to All Lives Matter. But nobody is saying anything about how do we protect and cover our children. It's been silenced lambs with absolutely no redress.

They're quick to talk about righteousness, talk about they couldn't support Kamala Harris because she was pro-life. But what about the people who are alive? You're going to do anything to safeguard and protect them. How do you respond to critics that say church folks that stay out of politics? Yeah. Then they don't understand the Bible. The reality is 87% of what Jesus did was outside of the church.

What the present American church does is speak to 87% of what's inside. And I think that's why a lot of young people don't go to church anymore because they're not hearing anything. Dick Gregory said, I don't want to hear about pie in the sky. I want to talk about a pound on the ground. So if you're not dealing with what I'm dealing with in my contemporary life,

then it really is not speaking to anything. Yeah, and you can't keep politics out of church when they bring in the church into politics. Absolutely. Like what is white Christian national? They claim that we are a Christian nation, but we don't see it in the values and in the virtues. How it is that this had been

has dishonored and disrespected black women time and time again. The way that Pam Bondi went out really like she was absent of the law, absent of conscience that her responsibility seemingly is to protect the president and not the United States citizen tree. So I think that we got to do a whole evaluation. She said if everything in the Epstein list comes out is going to destroy a whole system. Then destroy the system. And let's rebuild.

We don't talk about that enough, Patrick. We don't talk about destroying and rebuilding enough. The Bible's full of those type of stories. Oh, yeah. Why is it so important to destroy and rebuild? Because I think that people like being safe. And that's why a lot of people don't change. A lot of people don't stretch is they get comfortable in what they know.

Jess, it is, Baskin and Robbins has 31 flavors. All of us know, we from South Carolina, we from Baltimore. Everybody knows 31 flavors. the number one selling ice cream is vanilla because people don't want anything outside of that which is regular and that's what's just normal. So whenever God is coming to disrupt your life, he's going to put some sprinkles in it.

He's going to add something in it so that you can't just keep going on with the way that things used to be. Do you not, well, do you find it difficult to be, or how do you balance being a spiritual leader and an activist? Yeah, for me, it's one in the same. I'm not able to pick and choose.

You are a radio commentator and you are a comedian. So when people listen to you, you're able to operate in both. It is only church people that want you to pick one gift. They only want you to stay in one lane. People who have more than one gift have the greatest level of frustration because people put you in a box.

When we grew up as children in church, we were told about three wise men. It brought gold, frankincense, and murder. Charlemagne, there's nowhere in the Bible that says there were three wise men. We assume it's three wise men because it's three gifts. What if it was just two and one of them had two gifts? Hold on now, you're messing me up. So there was no three wise men in the Bible?

I can't find that. It just says that wise men came bringing gold, frankincense, and myr. We just assume each person only got one gift. Wow. Whenever you got more than one gift, people who are normal will have a problem with you. The people who deal with depression the most are the people who are the most gifted. Because when you got to deal with all of your gift, all of your talent, all of your noorning, and you got to adjust to normal people, it becomes frustrating because they're trying to figure out,

why are you doing all of that? It don't take all of that. And so you've got to second guess yourself. Am I doing too much? Why am I not normal? Why do I not think like everybody else? But greatness is never left to normalcy. it's always put you on the outliers

and that's why you're going to be condemned. You think you're doing what you called to do? Absolutely. If I died and came back twice, I would be where it is that I'm supposed to be. I find my greatest level of fulfillment operating in my lane. And the problem,

Shalemey Jets, with social media is we have become addicted to affirmation. But can you do what you're called to do if nobody else understands it? If nobody else likes it, if nobody else believes in it. Most people, Mahatna Gandhi, say, first they laugh at you and then they want to join you. So you got to figure out how do I navigate that space of getting through it. My dad is a retired preacher.

And he said years ago, and it haunts me to this day, my dad says he is glad he wasn't Obama's pastor. Because if he was Obama's pastor, he would have told him not to run. Why are you doing that, though? Yeah, that there's no way that you would have made it. And so even people who are filled with faith can be wrong. Yeah. Even people who are Christians can be wrong. When God is doing something different, then you got to brace yourself to walk in.

I love that Gandhi quote. It's first they ignore you. That's right. Then they laugh at you. Yes. Then they fight you. Yes. And then you win.

That's right. Have you gone through all those stages? I'm still going through it. It's in cycles. Yeah. Ask me again on Thursday. Yes. And you hard to be ignoring nowadays.

Listen, even when I want to be Even when I want to be ignored. Listen, Bishop Jakes said to me years ago that after you get famous, the only thing you can do is become infamous. And you got to figure out what is the gift of anonymity. So not being known is a blessing.

I was just talking to my team before we came in here the highest selling drug in America, the narcotic that people are most addicted to is fame. That's right. People just want to be seen. So they went on the island. They participated in the rituals. They was eating flesh.

They were dealing with babies. Not even necessarily because they were drawn to it. But they told them this is the receipt you got to have in order to be in this space. And a lot of people compromise themselves for popularity even at the risk of their own integrity. Man, Pastor, you just answered a question that I've been asking all week, and I don't want to sound crazy when I ask it,

but I literally have been asking, are these people natural-born pedophiles? Are they participating in some type of ritual? Is that like something they had to do to be in that environment? Either way, it's sick. Yes, but which one is it? Look at the girl, the lady who got the job at the United Nations from UAE, United Arab Emirates.

Epstein didn't ask for her little sister. She volunteered her 13-year-old sister and said, oh, you're going to like her. She's prettier than me. Is what people will do in order to get to that place. And so, Jess, you know that there are people who want to get to you. They don't like you, but they think you're going to open the door for it. That people want success adjacent.

They want popularity connection. You run into people all the time. They're not asking you how you're doing. And if you answer, they don't care. They don't care. Please listen to my demo. They ought to the next thing. And so to find people who really are interested in who it is that you are,

Drey said, no new friends. Sometimes you've got to have some new friends. But sometimes we stay with the people who we know from back when you didn't have nothing because you trust it. At this space, you got to have a different kind of interrogation on why you really hear. What is your real draw? What's your real attraction? A lot of people don't know you,

but they like the oil that you carry. That's scary, too. What's the leadership lesson you learned the hard with? Like something you was somebody I told you earlier. The leadership lesson that's the hardest is every decision you make impacts people beyond you. When you are making decisions for other people, is very critical.

And it's backfired on me a whole lot. The worst thing in the world is to be a selfish leader. And that's what you are seeing in Trump. All he cares about is what he feels. Can you imagine just for the first time in 44 years, the Gallup polls can no longer report

what is the approval rating of the president? That's great. He said, I don't even want to hear how bad of a job that I'm doing. So I'm no longer going to give them. employment records. I'm no longer going to give unemployment records. I'm no longer going to give approval.

I only want to hear what makes me feel good. He said last week, he now wants to tax churches that speak against them. So the only people who will do well are people who bow down the Pharaoh. Anybody who stands up for themselves is

going to find themselves in a lot of fire. Why do you think so many people are willing to buy down? Right. Again, for everybody who's listening who graduated from vacation Bible school. You remember Sherec, Mishak, and Abindigo. Everybody bowed down, but the three.

We'll talk to the Heavans, man. Yeah, yeah. We don't know what the hell you talk. We'll talk to the Hewens. So it's three Hebrew boys, and they had this terrible president named Nebuchadnezzar, and Nebuchadnezzar knew how to get black votes. This is what Nebuchadnezzar did. He said, let me bring in

good music, because I know Negroes bow down the good music. He said, let me give them gold. They're going to put it in their teeth, they're going to put it around their neck, they're going to put rims on their car, and they will bow down. Everybody bow down. This is in the Book of Daniel, except for three boys, and the three boys were Gen Z. All of the boomers, all the millennials, all the X is the newest generation that's always

going to be the revolutionaries. The young generation is always going to be the ones that kick against the pricks. And so young people who are listening, don't wait for your mother, your father, your grandmother. They're now safe. There's no revolution in the history of the world that doesn't take place at defeat of young people. Farrow was ultimately defeated. Yes. Trump going to be defeated.

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and Black America was out of breaking point. Writing and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's Almemata, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in black history, Martin Luther King's senior and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people would die.

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limits or as boundaries are. And so as a consequence, ICE is now pulling out of Minneapolis. They're pulling out of Chicago because they're seeing that the people are pushing back. And all over the country, there's a groundswell. Can you imagine me and just governors Westmore? He wasn't invited to the governor's as the only black. But his was significant that y'all can't miss is even the white Republican governor said we ain't going. Yeah, so there's a revolution that is taking place that the system didn't bank on one that I think is getting ready to arise and you can already see it in these midterm elections when they try to tamper with those results.

One thing I always loved about true pastor, Jamal Brown, is like you never try to act like you're perfect. And a lot of people, just people who don't even go to church, they have a problem with fascists. Oh, they did this. They did. how somebody going to tell me how to do this and how to build a relationship with the Lord if they're not perfect? What are some things that you're still working on, even in your own life, with your own self?

Yeah. Bishop Noel Jones out of L.A., one of my mentors, said, God will use a preacher's life just so they'll have something to preach. You can't get it out of a book. And so had I lived a perfect life, how would I learn how to preach to people live through divorce.

How do I learn how to talk to young people about failing the 11th grade and getting kicked out? How do you talk about being a side-eyed from people in the church and living through embarrassment and shame? And so I think if we believe that the gospel is true and redemption is available and transformation is accessible, then use Exhibit A. And I think that a lot of preachers mess up

because they want to live in witness protection and act like they ain't never done nothing. like they ain't never drank nothing they ain't never slept with nobody ain't never smoked then how do I know God is real and you giving me 1985 testimonies so God has got to bring exhibit A that you know God will use a murderer

to free all of his children you use somebody who's got a speech impediment to be a spokesperson and so I think that the flaws that are in men and women of God exemplified that it ain't them but it's really God that's working through What was something God had to strip from you before he could elevate you? God had to strip from me pride.

And that's hard for a black man. My successes, Charlemagne, are always the size of my failures in order to keep me balanced. Otherwise, James Weldon Johnson drunk with the world of the wine, we forget thee. And so I failed the 11th grade, got a GED, but went to Morehouse, went to Duke, went Oxford. And so most churches I go to only talk about Morehouse and Duke. They don't talk about my GED. So I got

to remind them of that. Sunday we're doing 150 couples at our church are renewing their vows. Oh, that is nice. Yeah, but I'm going to tell them, but your pastor's divorce. This is my second marriage. And 60% of people go to church been divorced, but we don't ever talk.

about that. And so I think it's important for us to talk about the Old Testament and the New Testament on what your journey is, not that you've just arrived, but it takes you some time and some space and sometimes you get it right. Sometimes you don't. The Bible says all have sinned falling short of its glory. People believe it until it come to their pastor. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We send every day by thought, word, indeed. Not Reverend Jones. Rem Jones ain't ever going to do that. We do. So many people send in their thoughts so they think that they're better

than people who're sending their deeds. Have you taken a step back to look and see why God has expanded your territory? I'm amazed and my amazement is wrapped in embarrassment. And my embarrassment is what brings me humility. What are you embarrassed by? So many things that I've gone through in my life,

I've got to really pray through, Lord use me to push people towards the kingdom and not away from it. I don't want to be somebody's stumbling block to say, man, because of what he did, I don't see the grace factor. I feel like they're getting away. And whenever you deal with a mega pastor,

it has always looked at as a Ponzi scheme. Yeah. What is really going on behind that? And I think that your integrity and your character have got to develop and you've got to do it. God never gives me the grace to fail in private. I can't get away with nothing. So whatever it is, it's there. It's available.

And so when you realize that the ops is heaven, you've got to live a different way and hold yourself at a different standard. That's a great answer because I think that, you know, sometimes, when you're anointing is different. Yes. Like, you really can't get away with that. No. I can,

there's a lot of people I know can see doing this here and that day, and I'm like, damn, how do you get away with that? But I know if I do it? Oh, yeah. It's going to be held. It's the end of it.

Oh, my God. Just like the PPP loans. I wanted to do one so bad. All my friends, they still ain't locked up yet. But if I would have been sitting right here between days. Oh, no, for sure.

For sure. Absolutely. No, it's a critical thing is that the Bible says he only chase since those he loves. And a lot of times we look at the love of God connected to our blessing

and not to our opposition. It's a story for those of you who didn't grow up in church. Don't read the Bible. There's a guy by the name of Lazarus. He's sick. They send a message to Jesus that he's sick, but just this is what bothers me. We never know God loves them

until Lazarus gets sick. No other time before that does he have expressed his love to him. Sometimes in our births, and sometimes in our chaos and sometimes in our controversy is where we find the love of God and are able to bounce back and move through it.

And that's so real. My grandmother used to have a picture in her house and it was called Footprints. I'm sure. Oh, yeah, yeah. Everybody's grandmother had that. And it's like you see two sets of footprint on the beach. Then only one.

Only one. In my worst times, is it only one set of footprint? Yes. God said that's when I carried you. No, that's crazy. Yeah. What did you think of Drewski skit? I thought it was funny.

No, really. I thought it was funny. And the reason why people could identify with it is because we gave him the material. So we couldn't say none of this has ever happened in church. Andy Warhol said art imitates life. And so those who are offended, let's do a better job of representing the church.

Let's do a better job of packaging it. And just, you know this, there's some truth in all. jokes. So sometimes we got to look in the mirror and not look out the window. And so I think it was a great time for the church to re-evaluate what we do, how we represent it, and how it is that people take what it is that we do. It's amazing that you will never see the house of an emma. You'll never see. Nobody talks about the car that a rabbi is driving because they're not posting it. Right. We are posting it. It is some wealthy rabbis out here that got a whole lot of money.

They own three jewelry stores, five blocks from here. But we're not looking for, they're not looking for fame or notoriety or popularity or affirmation. They're doing the work. And I think that the church has got to do a better job of doing the work. It's okay for you to have money. I say to people, don't tell people to tithe if you never taught them how to invest. if the only time I hear about money in church is about giving it but not on multiplying it.

My job as a pastor is not just to talk about you giving the tithe, but to show you how to multiply the 90. And if I'm not showing you how to be a good steward, then I'm doing a bad job. Desmond Tutu said at the end of every year, the poor people in the community should vote to see if the church should be open another year. and if the poor people voted in the community where your church is,

would they stay open? And I think that we got a responsibility to serve our people. How do you navigate social media? Because you're on it a lot, but the devil is busy. Right? There's a lot of things that aren't real. So how do you have the capacity to know what's what before you comment on it or share? I'm sure people will be sending you stuff all the time.

I'm like, look at this, Pat, look at this. Well, how does your discernment work in the digital? Is I got to figure out how do I, advance the kingdom of gospel and the message. Our sanctuary in Atlanta holds a couple of thousand people, but online on Sunday morning is 50,000. So I can't preach against social media when social media is how people are getting the gospel.

The reality is more people go to church online than go in person. And so we got to figure out how do we use it towards our good and really amplify the message? people regrettably have an appetite for bad news. Yes, we do. So more people are going to go find out what happened with Cardi B than what happened to the Haitians who are unprotected. And so we've got to figure out how do we advance it.

And so we've got to really safeguard our platform so that those positive messages still come through. What's up with the target boycott? Any movement? Man, I'm so glad you asked. Let me first say a year ago I came here, you wasn't here. Yeah, I know. You weren't here.

I was at the Lord's house. A year ago. You just started coming on the radio. Shut up. You know, you got them church members that. You don't know they're going to church, but they don't come all of time. Oh, yeah. She comes for communion.

That's right. She just started coming on the way. Friends and Family Day. Yeah. I got it. So let me first thank you because when we first started, the Breakfast Club brought us on and was our biggest platform to announce it. So let me thank the family.

because of the black community coming together, Target has lost $12 billion. Because the community came together, their stock dropped from $145 a share to $93 a share. I want to thank the community because foot traffic has gone down by 9.3% and online spending has dropped at that same number. So I want to first thank you because this is the largest board cop for black people. since the Montgomery bus boycott 70 years ago. And it wouldn't have happened without the Breakfast Club partner with us. I'm excited because Target has a new CEO that started just recently. And so we're in active conversations to try to come to a resolve.

I'm excited about his leadership that he wants it resolved and wants to know how he can partner better with the community. So not too soon. coming back to you to tell you where it is that we are, but I think it won't be long before we're able to come to a close. Do you have a resolution plan in mind? Like, do you know what you're after? Oh, yeah. I'm after those same four things I told you about, is that they got to partner with some HBCUs. They've got to give an account to investing $2 billion back into the black community. They've got to reimagine if DEI is now illegal, how do minority

have access to get to C-sweets in the company, and four is to make good to what they said to George Floyd's family. It's amazing to me that all of these corporations want to shun DEI initiatives, but diversity is the only thing moving. Diversity is what's cool. Diversity is what got people showing up. Bad Bunny had 135 million people watching. That other thing they did.

That Donald Trump watched. Didn't even matter. I got to add that. That Donald Trump watched. And he said he wasn't going to watch. That's right. It's the 30-point USA thing. Listen, that the Kansas just dropped that they pre-taped two weeks before the Super Bowl.

It was only 200 people in there, and they paid them $200 a piece in order to be there. That's right. And fake the butt, the foot of you. There we are. Yes. All of that. Thank you. I don't get it.

If a young person is listening this morning, it's my last question, and they feel called, but they feel unqualified. Yes. What would you tell them? Then you're probably called. God, very, very, rarely called you to do something that you're trained to do. Very rarely called you to do something that you got experience or background in. He called you and to do something to see where you trust.

There was a guy by the name of Peter who saw Jesus walking on the water and said, God, if that's you, let me come to where you are. He wasn't gifted to do it. He didn't have any talent to do it. He asked for it. And God said, because you had enough audacity to ask for it, come walk. And so I would say to people, ask God. for something dangerous.

Ask God for something that if he don't get involved, you're going to fail at it. Ask God for something that will put your entire name on the line. And that's where God will show up. God has no patience for people who dream safe. Dream in a capacity to say, hey God, if you don't get in this, then I'm going to have an egg on my face.

Is Pastor Jamal Bryant? Yes. Yes, it is. I'm glad. I don't know if you had another question. Yeah, because I do. just want to know this because you're going to say it's Pastor Jamar Bryant to look at me like I got another name for

I know I've got to tell you he was throwing it over to you anyway what is the difference now this may seem like a dumb question yes but what is the difference between a reverend and a pastor I've never known that but you are both correct yes what is the difference yeah so a pastor has a church a reverend may just be preaching but he doesn't have a congregation that he's over

so Reverend Al Shopton is a preacher, but he's not over a church. Gotcha. Yeah. Okay. I really did not know that. I didn't know that easy. Okay.

You never knew that easy. I just thought it was like the same, like two words and say the same thing. It means that you are ordained, but you're not necessarily over a flop. Gotcha. Okay. So Reverend Jesse Jackson never pastored, but he's an ordained preacher. Got you. Got you.

So do people have to say Reverend Pastor, Dr. Jamar Bryant? No. Okay. Choose one. Is that what mess me up? Yeah, no, don't do it. Okay. Where'd you go to high school in Baltimore?

I didn't go to high school in Baltimore. My mother, she made me so mad. I was getting in trouble when I was a teenager, right? So she moved me up 83 to go to high school in York, Pennsylvania, Dallas and her in high school. Yes, she did. And I wanted to go to MSNM and New York. You never represent York, Pennsylvania.

You've been on here saying just all Baltimore. Yes. Give York damn dude now. She'd do what she talked about how she got hooked over drugs. Oh, my God, but I'm not hooked no more, Pastor. I know it. I know it. I'm not hooked no more.

Yo, the witness of Jehovah's be trying. I'm going to tell you. Not the witnesses of Jehovah. Yeah, because that's what him and his wife is. They witnesses of Jehovah. No, he wouldn't. I know Jehovah Witness. My mother was a Jehovah Witness.

Oh. A mother grew up a Jehovah Witness. Really? My mother is a witness now. So I grew up Jehovah Witness. I didn't know that. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

You still a witness? To God's great glory? Yes, I am. Let me ask you a question. Yes, sir. Jehovah witnesses don't believe in Christmas. They don't celebrate holidays. Yes.

How did the Jackson 5 do a Christmas album? And y'all are Jehovah Witnesses. Oh, my God, the Jackson Fai was Jehovah's Witnesses? Yes. Oh, my God. Yes. Yes, they were. Mama K is still knocking on doors.

Listen, they was getting that money. Seriously. How did they do that? I have no idea. That's a good question. Go ask them. Well, you just told us, though, God doesn't call to qualify. Hey, listen.

He qualified to call. I got it. I got it. I got it. Thank you. All right. I saw Mama kissing Santa Claus. Right.

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