The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Dr. Umar Talks Bunny Hopping, Supreme Court Immunity, The Migrant Crisis, Black Male Unity + More

Episode Date: July 10, 2024

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Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. He's back. He's back. Ladies and gentlemen, Dr. Umar Johnson. Welcome, brother. Peace and pan-Africanism. Good to see you brothers again. Peace, King. How are you feeling today?

I'm all right. I'm all right. You see, we got you on the wall over there, brother. You ain't even see it. You ain't even see yourself right there. Get out of here. Yes, yes. Oh, man.

Good looking out. Good looking out. You on the wall. Good looking out. All right. How does Dr. Umar feel about being the black boogeyman for interracial relationships? It's good and it's bad. Okay.

The good side is I hear from a lot of brothers who have gave up the bunny hopping. They send me messages, inbox. They stop me at the airport. So I do see the positive effect. You know, brother, I'm with a queen now. I see the difference. If I never listened to you, I would have never really evaluated my behavior that's the good side got you the not so good side is also get the hate mail from brothers who are committed to the bunny hopping right and they can be very

aggressive in their repudiation of my position i was at the airport coming from atlanta last week and i don't know what they'd be expected but when i see a brother with his snow bunny at the airport it's almost as if they expect me to approach them or something like we're going through security the brother with the white girl they looking at me like like they wait for me to swing on them or something i'm like bro it ain't that deep man your life is your life i still respect you as a human being i just don't think your selection is in the best interest of where black people need to be headed that's all but when I see them interracial couples, man They look like they getting ready for war or something

Yeah, I mean because the things you say they don't know what you gonna say We're gonna come out your mouth with you long if you're gonna say something so they got a they got a prepared themselves, right? But see the essence of the message is still love though So even if I disagree with what you're doing we still family at some level and she's still a human being regardless so you know sometimes they'll come up to me as a couple and i'll speak to them as a couple and they may say well can you explain why you don't really agree what we're doing and i'll do it in a very respectful tone and i've never had an issue when we had those conversations so from where my perspective is i'm like yeah i'm strong

in my position, but I'm still leading with love. So nobody should ever feel some type of way about seeing me in public, although they do. I told you I was all the way in Zanzibar. I sent you the video, Dr. Umar. I was in Zanzibar and a brother from Zanzibar was talking to me and he was saying how much he liked a lot of the things Dr. Umar said.

But he was like, I just don't understand his position on the snow bunnies. It's a contradiction about how you cut the cake because those children who are going to be black, how can you tell them be black and proud if you didn't make them with a black woman? You chose to incubate your seed in a non-African woman. How can you then turn around and raise those children to be black and proud when if you were black and proud, you would have chose a black woman to incubate your seed in? It doesn't make sense for the descendant of the slave to be planting his seed in the descendant of the slave master. It's a complete contradiction.

What are your views? Has your views changed on mixed people? Because people will say even if you have a drop of black blood in you you're black i do the one parent rule okay so for me if one of your parents are black you're black okay take drake if he identifies as black full-time he black and that's never been an issue for us within the pan-african movement going back to the beginning of time we've never rejected the offspring of the union because nobody's responsible for how they got here. And so that's why Bob Marley, there's no contradiction for us.

A lot of our ancestors were of mixed race. Frederick Douglass, who I'm related to. It's no contradiction because you don't choose how you come into this world, but you still have the DNA of Africa within you. But you've got to identify full time. That's where it becomes an issue with our dominican republic brothers and sisters puerto rican africans uh cuban africans because sometimes they will either completely reject the african ancestry right or they may say i do have african ancestry but i don't identify as latino african i'm spanish you see what i'm saying or you look at what goes on between the dominican republic in and Haiti that whole intense uh light skin dark skin I'm African you ain't African type of situation we repudiate all that you either black all the time or you black none of the time you know people think uh because you have such a love for black people that for whatever reason that translates to hate for white folks absolutely not

because if that were true why do i get so many requests for help from white parents why do i get so many requests for help from asian parents arab parents they don't have a problem texting my phone saying hey can i pay this consultation i need you to look at my child's psychological evaluation i never get apprehension from white parents when they need my help on special education or mental health cases you see what i'm saying so if it were that bad i would assume they would not be reaching out to me. They have no issue reaching out to me and they don't go through a filter. They come direct, even the snow bunnies. Listen, I know how you feel about that. I need help with my son. He's a white boy, blonde hair,

blue eyes. Will you help us pay the fee? I got you. And if you hated them, you wouldn't give offer to help. Why would I help them at all? You see what I'm saying? Some of them buy my book too. They say, Hey, I know your book is towards black families but the information in there we can use it too so do white parents ever call you and say hey my white son or my white daughter is into this black boy or black girl and we need to we want to erase them from there do they ever call you for that no i get the opposite i'll get the black mother who would say dr uma my son is bunny hopping and it looks like he has a point of no return can you help me out that's what i get do

you have a camp because that'd be cool i need a camp i need a kid that's a good idea though bunny hopping recovery uh bunny hoppers anonymous camp i need a camp that's not a bad idea that is a very good idea you just gave me an idea so what they do call you how do you break oh my god they'd be upset like dr umar you're taking a white girl to the prom and i thought that was it no no no uh uh she's living with him in his dorm no no no they're about to move in together no no no uh she's pregnant now what can i do and the first thing i say to the black mother is are you sure you did not model love or addiction to whiteness before your son. Because many of these mothers who have an issue with their son with the white girl, got blonde hair, blonde weave. You see what I'm saying?

The green contacts. Like I'm looking at how you present yourself. You look like you're trying to be a white girl. So if the mother is imitating whiteness, why wouldn't the son be attracted to it? Because your first love affair is with your mother, not sexually, psychosocially. So therefore, if I see my mother imitating white women, are you not indirectly through your behavior suggesting that I date white females? So I think a lot of black mothers have to really check themselves with regard to how they're modeling the fact that they believe within themselves as a woman that white women are more attractive and i want

to ask you something columbus short says since we're talking about that he said uh he got some heat for saying that black men are dating outside their race because most black women are raised by single mothers and absentee fathers and taught a don't need a man mentality what are your thoughts on well here's what i would say to my brother, Columbus Short, and I'm a fan of his. Are we not all victims of the systemic oppression and injustice that racism has introduced into our community? So just as you have black women who didn't grow up with their father,

you have black men who didn't grow up with their fathers or their mothers. In other words, why is it acceptable for the black man raised by a black woman without his dad to reject a black woman raised by her mother without her dad? I think sometimes black men can be guilty of a double standard where we want a perfect offering when we ourselves are not a perfect offering. And to that point, I think black men need to recognize the fact that one of the reasons we have so much conflict with black women is because we don't operate on a masculine platform with our women all the time. We tend to operate on a female platform. For example, when a woman gets angry, rather than you trying to understand your queen non-emotionally.

So you can't have both people in a relationship with a low emotional iq because if both people in a home if you and your wife both have a low emotional iq if you and your wife both have a low emotional iq y'all gonna argue over everything because nobody says i am not going to emote over this i'm not going to deal with this with feelings i'm going to use reason and intelligence that's what the man is supposed to do but guess what we do raised by single mothers many of us we reflect right back to them that emotional trauma that they throwing on us so in essence you have two females arguing although one is in a man's body black men have to start being masculine and less feminine all this cattiness this back and forth between black men and black women on the internet,

that is feminine and feminine. Masculinity don't operate like that. Masculinity wants to understand where the woman is coming from. Masculinity wants to then intervene, study himself, evaluate his behavior, and try to level up to where she needs him to be. But arguing back and forth with women as a man, that's anti-masculine behavior. What we really need is some testosterone shots.

We need more testosterone because black men are mimicking female behavior emotionally and they're not even recognizing it. I know a lot of women who have high emotional IQs who don't get caught up in the petty back and forth either. Yes, sir. But normally, more often than not, it's supposed to be the male. Sometimes the woman does have that, which is good. But that also speaks to the fact that the women are becoming more masculinized and the men are becoming more effeminized,

not in terms of sexuality, but in terms of personality, the way that we are engaging each other in the back and forth male female thing. If we want to get real basic about it you're dealing with two traumatized people who have not healed themselves and now they're trying to make a healthy relationship two unhappy people cannot make a healthy relationship it is impossible you cannot get water from oil you can't get oil from water if she's traumatized because her father abandoned her and he's traumatized because his mother chose her second husband over him, you got to deal with those unmet childhood issues. Most of us are still dealing with unmet childhood issues and we're given the responsibility to our partner to heal us from demons that can only be healed when our parents. My wife can't undo what my mama did.

I got to work with my mama. Your wife can't undo what my mama did. I got to work with my mama. Your husband can't undo what your daddy did. You got to work with your husband. But because we don't want to go back into the pain, because we've often eliminated those peoples from our lives, we just say, you know what? I'm going to have to work on this with my husband. I'm going to have to work on this with my wife. They can be a support for you, but they can't be the solution. We have too many spiritual vampires floating around a black community these are emotionally toxic people who don't present themselves as they are to the opposite sex they present their social self their psychological mass and you don't realize who they really are in the

in Charlemagne until somebody gets pregnant y'all moving together get married or get engaged the whole time y'all were dating it was perfect you said I've been dating my queen for 10 years we never had an issue get married or get engaged. The whole time y'all were dating, it was perfect. You see, I've been dating my queen for 10 years. We never had an issue. Get married, divorced in six months. You know why? Because once y'all moved in that house together, your ego no longer wants to lie to her, Envy.

Your ego no longer wants to lie to her, Charlamagne. And her ego doesn't want to lie to you. So now you start seeing things that you never saw 10, 20 years when y'all were dating because in close proximity, the ego drops its mass damn dr huma ain't playing today yeah let's get to it there's a lot of things to talk about uh do you think president biden should step down do i think president biden should step down i got a couple answers to that on the one on the one end presidents don't make the final decisions anyway so because they are puppets it

really wouldn't matter if he stepped down or not however from an optics perspective his showing against donald trump in that debate didn't look good at all even though they only three years apart right on the flip side i'm not too sure the democratic party is ready to anoint Kamala Harris as quote-unquote Commander-in-Chief because as you know in the post-Barack Obama era the last thing poor white America wants to see is another black person as Commander-in-Chief so I don't think they necessarily want to go that route they don't have to there's others as well but at the end of the day both men are extremely up there in age because I don't want to be a senior shamer, if you would. Right. Because seniors are just as capable intellectually, many of them as those of us in our age bracket.

At the same time, they're still the two oldest men to ever run and rerun for president of the United States. But you know what? Doesn't that also speak to the weaknesses in both parties that's right if joe biden is the best the democratic national committee has if donald trump is the best the republican national committee has what is that saying about the talent y'all incubating that's right so what do you think about you know blacks uh loving donald trump so much shaking his hand kissing his kissing his hand rubbing his back saying we support him what do you what do you think about a slave master syndrome, white Jesus syndrome. We don't care if the white Jesus wears red or blue. We don't care what side of the aisle that they're on.

You know, black America suffers from battered spouse syndrome envy. And what battered spouse syndrome speaks to is the fact that no matter how bad you beat me up, if I believe I need you in order to survive, I'm never going anywhere. And part of our problem, part of the equation to our problem as American Africans, while we don't do anything on our own, is we are often waiting for the great white savior to come. This is a message that has been rehearsed for us in church. We get it in the media. We get it in the black community. So black people will never, ever abandon their hope of a white savior coming to save them. Donald Trump has no record whatsoever of saving black folks. When people ask me, who are you going to vote for? At this point,

neither one of them are going to get my vote. I considered Cornel West because I love Dr. West, intelligent, strong, good natured, but he's a bunny hopper, so he can't get my vote. Now, when I come back to Donald Trump and Joe Bideniden i look at the fact that donald trump signed 13 federal death executions while he was president more than half of them was signed after joe biden won the election think about that now biden gets elected in november sworn in in january between that time donald trump executes half of those 13 people five of them were black men and two of those black men were presumed innocent and their attorneys had introduced a stay of execution to the supreme court the supreme court turned them down and donald trump executed those brothers so when i hear black men say i'm voting for donald trump because he's going to bring more money and economic vitality into the black community

i say what about the fact that he's out here killing black folks you understand without no remorse at all signing those type of federal death warrants, two brothers was murdered within 24 hours of each other. One of them was 40 years old, and he was the first person to be murdered in 70 years for a crime he committed as a teenager. And in one of those cases, about six of the jurors said they would have changed their decision on the death sentence had they knew the information that the prosecution had withheld from them that's why the attorney wanted to stay of execution to give the uh the defense time to reformulate an argument in supreme court snow bunny clarence thomas and that crew said no and donald trump signed his life away so you got to look at that you also got to look at the fact

that donald trump wants to give police 100% immunity. That's right. Wait a minute. Look how they're killing us now. So now you're telling me that anything the police do in their line of duty, they cannot be held accountable for making bad mistakes and bad decisions, and you want to put that back in office? That's thirsty black men worrying more about money than the lives of their people. That's right. The Supreme Court is corrupt and illegitimate. Absolutely. How come enough people are not talking about that?

Because I don't think they understand the tripartite nature of American so-called democracy. The Supreme Court, the president and the Congress, they actually have equal weight, right? Well, they did. But now what the Supreme Court just did was they gave the president a few days ago absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for decisions made in office and carrying out his constitutionally protected duties. That's very dangerous because what that says is the president can never go to jail, even if he commits genocide, if it was done in an active office. So let's say hypothetically, Donald Trump or Joe Biden sends the National Guard into

New York to quell a black protest and the National Guard, God forbid, ends up executing 5,000 of our brothers and sisters who were protesting peacefully, even though it was ordered by the president of the United States. He cannot be held accountable for that. Why? Because he did it in discharging his duties as commander in chief. So we don't no longer have a president. We have an emperor.

We have a czar. We have a king. Because what the Supreme Court just did is said the president is beyond reproach and the president is beyond the reach of the law. Dangerous. Yeah. And I feel like enough people aren't having that conversation. They're not having that conversation. It's weird to me.

Like, I understand, you know, talking about Biden and his bad debate performance. I get it. I even understand talking about Project 2025, even though it's a hypothetical. But this is happening now. Yes. And nobody's having a conversation. And for black folks, it don't matter if it's Trump or Biden. The bottom line is the president of the United States,

none of whom have ever been friends of the black community, will have the ability to do what they want. As long as it takes place within the execution of duty, they cannot be held criminal liable. Now, here's my thing. I wonder what are the repercussions of that on the world court when you're dealing with genocide in the Geneva Convention? So are you saying that the president of the United States cannot be held criminally responsible for crimes of genocide against humanity that goes against the whole Geneva Convention?

So I'm wondering what the U.N. and what the world court has to say about the Supreme Court's decision. What are your thoughts on Donald Trump currently, and in particular, the agenda that is Project 2025? The Project 2025 reminds me a lot. Remember the Newt Gingrich contract on America back at the turn of the century? It kind of reminds me of that. It is very dangerous, but when I look at Project 2025, a lot of it is already being carried out. So they want to eliminate the Department of Education. I think we talked about this probably my first visit to the Breakfast Club where I spoke of how the US Constitution does not give you a child a right to an education the word education is not in the Constitution but many people feel

like educational taxes or their taxes that go to education is too burdensome and cumbersome and they're saying why do I have to pay school tax when the Constitution doesn't even give nobody a right to get an education in the first place? So why am I paying for this? So a lot of people want to phase that out. Remember, when you go to white America, half of white America either don't have school-age children or don't send them to public school anyway.

So it wouldn't completely blot out the school tax. Not only that, the money that still remains, they want to redirect it. The chart, not charter schools to private schools and parochial schools, which to my understanding is a violation of the separation of church and state. How can you get public money to the Catholic school? But that's what they want to do. They also want to shut down Social Security. They also want to completely eliminate all diversity, equity and inclusion laws and bills. But I got to say this, though, because the Democrats are pretty hypocritical, because when you look at what Governor DeSantis is doing in Florida and we look at the fact that you got 18 states that have already passed laws to eliminate all diversity, equity and inclusion program. That's a third. Right. Why aren't the Democrats pushing back against it? Governor, excuse me, President Biden. Was reportedly reportedly stated that he will not push back against the Republican effort to eliminate our DEI programs.

So doesn't that make you complicit in the removal of the DEI? See what the what the Democrats do that black people tend not to catch on is they'll let the Republicansans play the bad guy because they can't afford to lose the black vote so although we don't support dei ourselves we're not going to be the ones to front this we're going to let the santas and the other mavericks go out and do this but guess what we're not going to push back against us so it looks like it wasn't us it was you because silence in the face of injustice is complicity. And that's why, as far as I'm concerned, the Democratic Party and the Republican Party are two wings on the same bird. And the one question we never have,

when are we going to organize the black vote before we vote? If you notice, everybody tells us to vote. The politicians, black businesses, the fraternities, the churches, vote, vote, vote. The Urban League, the NAACP, Congressional Black Caucus, vote, vote, vote. Why do you think nobody ever says organize the black vote vote vote the Urban League the NAACP congressional black caucus vote vote vote why do you think nobody never says organize the black vote before you vote so we vote as a block so politicians know we're doing this as a people you know why if we voted as a block envy we could hold people accountable see if I vote as a block I can hold Eric Adams accountable I can hold

Brandon Johnson accountable I can hold Kamalaris accountable because she know we went to the polls as a people united in oneness but when you vote as individuals schizophrenic disorganized black votes who you gonna hold accountable envy the man could do what he want you voted alone you didn't link your vote with nobody what can you do to me well you say you go to joe bonnie what you gonna do about police genocide what can you do to me you voted by yourself if you notice if you political power is all about mass organization if you're not organized your vote only matters to the person you're electing it'll never matter to us why don't you think we have uh organization i was watching i can't remember i think it was maybe godfrey godfrey was talking about we just can't organize even as

organized crime like there's the the russian mafia there's the the chinese mafia there's the Russian mafia, there's the Chinese mafia, there's the Irish mafia, there's the Italian mob. But we can't organize together. Why do you think that is? Legally, yes, you're absolutely right to your issue with crime. Take the Italian mafia back in their heyday. No women, no children, no elders. If you kill one, even by accident, we take your life. That was the rule.

But in the black community, you can hit the elders, hit the kids, hit the pregnant women. No rules, no consequences. Self-hatred. Petty differences. And the indoctrination of white supremacy, meaning most black people feel the only people they need to be accountable to are whites. They can never answer to a black person. This is why if you talk to any black supervisor or black manager, they'll tell you they get more hell from their black employees than their white ones. Because whenever we see black authority, we rebel against it because we've been trained to believe

that black people are worthless. And if you yourself is worthless, how much more worthless will be your authority over me? Until we do something about the collective self-hate of African people, we will never change anything else. It is the psychological crutch of self-hate that keeps us where we are. We are two trillion dollar people. Why are we waiting for reparations? Don't get me wrong. We're entitled to reparations. But why are we waiting on them with that type of money? It makes no sense. It's because we do not believe in working together. We would rather wait on right supremacy to change itself before we change ourselves. I don't

know if we can ever reverse the self-hate that we have. We can, but you got to start with the children. Here's the problem. We're raising the children the same way we were raised. You see that? I look at the way these, somebody just sent me the video the other day of three girls stomping out this crossing guard. I mean, stomping her out, tried to kill her. I don't know what happened. Tried to kill her. Right.

Where did the children get that? Where did they get this thing to self-destruct, crash out on each other? They're taught it in their homes. And this is why when I first conceptualized the FDMG Academy, I said I want a residential school. I don't want them to come home. You know why? Because I know the sickness is in the home. This is not in your DNA. It's passed down intergenerational from grandparent to parent, from parent to child. So if we want a new mindset, if we want a new consciousness, if we want a new program or platform, you have to train the children. There's an African proverb that says whenever a new black baby is born, that's a message from God that he hasn't given up on Africanrican people yet but until we start doing something with the children differently than what was done with us

nothing will ever change it starts with the next generation i see you uh you know the frederick douglas marcus garvey academy yes sir i see you in the building all the time yes sir and i just still saying where the school yeah they're still saying what's cool everybody knows where the school is you can't miss it. And you just was asking for something. What was you just asking for? Somebody to help us with the floors. With the floors, yes.

We got, so last time I was here, remember, I was still struggling with the HVAC. Remember that? So the HVAC is done. Plumbing is done. All the systems repaired. Now it's superficials. We got to get the doors done. We got some doors that got to be replaced.

We got another layer of paint. So we're going to do one more paint day. And then we got 11 floors when we took the old rugs out we got to cover them up right so in fact coming here one of the good sisters who uh sister jennifer out of trenton shout out to her and her husband uh she has an uncle who does floors so i'm going to meet with him this weekend and see what type of price he can give also met with some other brothers who do floors and the prices wasn't too bad you know what i mean so once we do that last layer of coat and do them floors we applying for the certificate of occupancy you think that's going to be hard to get it could be because in talking with some of the businesses in the neighborhood they're telling me

that they've had to wait months before the city came out to do their inspection this is what they're saying i don't know if it's true they say doc you might got to wait a minute and because you are who you are they might try to nitpick you too so i'm just going to you know hope for the best you know what i mean but cautiously understand that because they never thought we would finish this could be a little bit of a push i just hope it don't get to the point where i got to have a protest you follow me i hope it don't get to the point where we got to drag the city into court for discrimination against us because they never thought we were finished and we done you know what i'm saying and i got to thank y'all for that because y'all helped me get the word out you know what i mean so we there and so uh god willing i believe if they don't take forever to inspect the building hoping we get

these floors done quickly we should be able to have our inspection before the end of the summer are you concerned that uh some of these negroes because that's that's been the only thing they can come at you with dr yeah dr umar don't got the school now that the school is here the school is almost done do you think that some of these negroes are going to be protesting the most yes because they're not going to stop now that i'm open they got to move the goalposts right that's right now it's how many kids what is he teaching how many they're never going to stop because the motivation is is is slander see in the beginning i thought the motivation was truth i thought people who questioned me sincerely just wanted to know are you scamming us and then when i started breaking everything down and showing them how i'm not scamming them and we ain't even spent no money

because we ain't found no contractors then i realized this ain't about the truth it's about slander i just want to be entertained at my expense. And so people say, well, why haven't you been more transparent? I've been too transparent. Every time I come up, I tell you where we at, what problems we got. You know what I mean? How much more money we need. This is what we going through.

In fact, I think I've been too transparent. When we open up the next school, I'm not going to be that transparent. Y'all see it when it opens, no matter how long it takes. But I felt the need to be transparent because I didn't want to lose my loyal supporters because remember most of our FDMG donors they are repeat donors very few people have only donated one time these people who are questioning me they've never donated at all ain't got children going to the school don't live nowhere near Wilmington Delaware you understand me so

this is doing this for kicks and giggles the youtubian struggle streamers they will slander my project these youtubian struggle streamers that's what they are youtubian struggle streamers they will slander my project to get an extra 100 views literally you go to their pay you you did all that for 100 views you thirsty struggle streamer. You see what I'm saying? So my thing is, don't even feed them. Stay focused on the work. I was going to ask you, what were your thoughts on Diddy and everything that's going on with Diddy? We know what he did was horrific.

Yes. What are your thoughts on everything that's happening with Diddy? Yes, sir. That's all you say. If Kathy was a dog skin, it wouldn't even be a concern. I believe that. Absolutely horrific. Indefensible.

But the response from the black community envy in charlemagne i believe is somewhat hypocritical and the reason i say that is uh 40 percent of domestic abuse victims are black women black women are being beat on by on a regular basis the femicide rate for black women is going through the roof. A black woman is three times as likely as any other woman to be murdered by her lover. Black or white. Y'all saw what happened with the sister in Milwaukee. 19-year-old black sister,

what, about a month or two ago, went on a date with a 33-year-old Caucasian man. He killed her, dismembered her, spread her body all over the city. This is recent. And then you had a little uh 17 year old sister down in cape corral florida she walking back from the movies with her two friends and a white boy just pulled over gets out the car and murders her in broad daylight and i ain't got

to show you all the murders of black men what we're doing to our own women i just saw one the other day where the brother killed his children killed the woman killed himself those are not typically black crimes we don't normally do that kind of stuff. We don't crash out like that, but we are now because the spiritual foundation of African people and the emotional wellness of African people is beginning to erode because we have bought into the ideology of material consumption that American capitalism has pushed on us. And we believe being happy and being whole and being psychologically healthy means owning and earning. So we equate health, psychological health,

which how much do I make and how much do I earn and how much do I own? And that is not the foundation upon which African spirituality rests. We are a people where relationships are the most important thing to African people. Relationships, not what you earn, what you drive and what you wear.

But we bought into that. And as a result of that, we are suffering from a spiritual famine. We are a spiritually infamished people and we're not recognizing it. And this is why rich blacks, as well as poor blacks are equally likely to commit

suicide or crash out on somebody else and take their life so my thing is when are we going to get back to valuing relationships and people more than the things that we own that is a very big problem with us so back to diddy what was so what's it back to diddy It's hypocritical, Envy, because when I look at the amount of black women who are abused in the community, and I look at the amount of black people who turn the other cheek to this, being a therapist, I see these things. Black women being abused in a church. They're being abused in a temple. They're being abused in a masjid. They're being abused in a college.

Teenage girls are being abused in their homes by their boyfriends So I see all these black people snapping out on Diddy as they should he was wrong But you didn't snap out on your son when he smacked his girlfriend up in front of your face You didn't snap out on your brother when he's choked out his fiance. You didn't even You didn't snap out on your husband when it when he snapped out on you So did he can be exposed and humiliated and shamed and embarrassed, but not the men in your life. When your son beats on his wife, when your uncle, when your cousin,

when your frat brother, when your pastor is guilty of doing the same thing Diddy did, it gets a pass. But when Diddy does it, he has to be exposed. I don't like the double standard that we have. I don't like this hypocritical outrage at Diddy, but we don't like the double standard that we have i don't like this hypocritical outrage at diddy but we don't see the same thing in the black community for example how many domestic abuse shelters have we opened since the cassie diddy film came out if we had outrage all these single black women being abused with children right how many celebrities or

regular black people have opened up domestic abuse shelters? How much money have black has black America donated to the fight against domestic abuse in our community? Go to the Roman Catholic Church. The Roman Catholic Church admits to they admit to at least 10,000 incidents of sex abuse against children involving over 4,300 pastors or priests since 1950. From 1950 to 2022, between 10,000 and 11,000 incidents of child sex abuse, 4,300 priests. Can I ask you a question? If what Diddy did is so bad, why do we still have 3 million African-American Roman Catholics? If we are against abuse, help me understand how this this is wrong but molesting our kids are not i i tend to see people care more about issues when celebrities are attached and it makes me

feel like they don't even care about the issue they just care about yes slandering the celebrity i absolutely agree i absolutely agree and to your point that you raised earlier if that was lizzo and not cassie are we having this conversation if that was lizzo if that was a full-figured chocolate african queen doesn't even make the media and then the other thing fellas we got lizzo yes because she's a celebrity got you but if it's just a regular full-figured chocolate sister right and i and i do believe cassie's complexion plays a role in this because we do have a light-sk skin supremacy issue in the black community. We also got dark supremacy issues as well. But if she's not a mixed race, light skin sister and not a celebrity, this ain't this ain't no issue.

This ain't no issue, you know, because even in religion, I've seen pastors and imams condone violence against women. You know what I mean? You know, so I think the black community got to stop being hypocritical. If we're really against domestic violence, let's do something against it because I really hear celebrities. I really hear civil rights leaders. I really hear business leaders talk up and out against the domestic abuse of black women. And when black women get domestically abused, it's twice as bad. You know why?

Because one, they're being psychologically harmed, right? And then number two, they can't go to the police because they're going to be treated like an animal. This is what y'all people do. They can't go to the domestic abuse shelters because white people are going to look at them like they're less than trash. So the black woman suffers in silence.

And on top of that, what? In most states, domestic abuse is a felony. I can't afford to send my children's father to jail. And then when they say, why, daddy ain't here? Because I turned them in. So it's very complicated when you're dealing with black women and domestic abuse and then add to that envy and charlamagne the fact that most black women don't have a strong social network they don't have sisters that they can rely on because those sisters are so insecure about their relationship

with their man that you can't come take the spare room in my house you can't come take the basement you can't come take the airbnb because my house. You can't come take the basement. You can't come take the Airbnb because my husband might start developing eyes for you. So you got to stay in that house and keep getting your head beaten by that man. Even though I'm claiming to be a born again Christian, even though I'm claiming to be the most devout Muslim of all time, even though I'm claiming to be the top Hebrew

in my community, I'm going to let your husband keep banging your head in because I'm not going to risk my husband sniffing for your cookies. Damn. What are your thoughts? I got so much stuff for your cookies. Damn. What are your thoughts? I got so much stuff I want to ask you. What are your thoughts on the WNBA?

In particular, the Kaitlyn Clark, Angel Reese battle. Here's the thing. My thoughts on Kaitlyn Clark and Angel Reese. First of all, much respect to Kaitlyn Clark because to her credit, I don't feel she came into the WNBA acting like she was the savior i did not get that from her i mean i got from the white power structure the snow bunny mafia of the wmba that they tried to make her the face of the league before she proved herself and in doing that they're overlooking black female athletes who are much better than caitlyn clark asia wilson for the los angeles

aces this is the first woman in w nba history to score 35 points grab 10 rebounds and get five steals south carolina's own baby you see what i'm saying so my thing is how do you jump to caitlyn clark and overlook asia wilson a two-time w nba mvp the aces they just won the last two championships they sell out almost every other game but the entire media's attention is on caitlyn clark two-time WNBA MVP, the Aces, they just won the last two championships. They sell out almost every other game, but the entire media's attention is on Kaitlyn Clark. Prodigy of Don Staley. Prodigy of North Philly's Don Staley, absolute 22nd in diamond, right?

So when I look at, even when we go back to the Lady Gamecocks, they won the championship and all the attention went to Kaitlyn Clark. They had a near perfect season, only lost three games in three years. Kait clark gets all the attention since when last year absolutely and they was undefeated last year since when have you seen the losing team get more attention in the winning team and then gail king oprah sidekick she gets on the interview with dawn stally and says what were you thinking because we were all rooting for clyn Clark in Iowa. Iowa got what? Less than 2% black students? Who was voting for Iowa?

Who was rooting for Kaitlyn Clark? We wasn't wishing her no harm, but we was rooting for Dawn Staley and the Lady Gamecocks. The reason I started watching NCAA basketball again because I had a long hiatus is because of Dawn Staley and the Lady Gamecocks. Not because of Kaitlyn Clark and not because of nobody else. So I felt like Dawn Staley and the Lady Gamecocks were shamed, were shamed because they didn't bow down to Caitlin Clark and give her the white privilege. The year before, when they beat the Lady Gamecocks en route to losing to Angel Reese and LSU, anybody who saw the game saw the referees gave it to them. They ripped them off. But of course, Dawn Staley couldn't say that, right?

Because they should be accused of playing a race car. But if you saw the game, the referees gave it to them they ripped them off but of course dawn stelly couldn't say that right because they should be accused of playing a race car but if you saw the game they got cheated so they did everything they could to make caitlyn clark the great white savior she's not there yet i think she's gonna be a great player right i think she's gonna have a tremendous legacy but she's not a top 10 player in the league now you take to look at angie reese she's the first player in w nba history to get 13 straight double doubles not notbles. Not rookie. Period. You see what I'm saying? So it's going to be interesting when it comes down to the

rookie of the year because you know they want to give it to Kaitlin. That's that Snow Bunny privilege. But look at what Angel Reese is doing.

I could probably settle for a co-rookie like they did with Jason Kidd in Grand Hill. I could settle for a co-rookie, but you're not

going to give it to Kaitlin Clark and try to X out Angel Reese. And I hate the fact that they tried to make Angel Reese the bad guy. And I hate the fact that they tried to make Angel Reese the bad guy.

And I hate the fact that so many of our brothers in the sports world kind of parroted the narrative of the WNBA and charged the black women of the WNBA with being jealous of Caitlin Clark. Y'all jealous of all these attention. And then you had other brothers who say, well, she's the reason y'all got flights. Now she's the reason y'all got flights now she's the reason this how is she the reason when asia wilson was doing what she was doing before she got there and there's other women who was doing what she was doing before she got there nobody's jealous of caitlyn clark they're angry at the racism and the double standard that they are witnessing you can't expect black women of the wmba with all the hell that they catch to sit there and watch someone who is not as good as they are be elevated to a level that they were never put at.

It's not fair. It's not jealousy. It's an anger. Because even at this level of society and professionalism and athletics, I still have to play second fiddle to the white girl, even when she's not good enough. I haven't seen you hand out lashes in a minute dr i'm gonna have to start giving some out though what's your thoughts on stephen a smith some i was talking to somebody the other day i didn't see what what does stephen a say about oj something about oj simpson he was upset i believe that or that bt honored him okay had him in the in memoriam package. Yeah, yeah. My view on my brother Stephen A. Smith, I vacillate. Because one minute, he'll say something that I say good.

Like when they gave Steve Nash the Brooklyn Nets coaching job. And he said, no black man gets that job with no experience. And you want to coach KD, Kyrie, and James Harden? No black man gets that. Good job, Stephen A. And then he'll go right back and do something coonish like this. If BET wants to honor OJ, let them honor OJ. White people honor white people who are guilty of things, right?

And let us be clear. Did not OJ get acquitted? He was found innocent. He was found innocent. So, Stephen A., if OJ Simpson was found innocent for the murder of Anna Nicole Smith, I believe the name was. What was the name? Nicole. No, Nicole Smith.

Nicole Brown. Nicole Brown. Right. Forgive me for getting the name wrong. But if he was found innocent in a court of law, how can you come back, Stephen A. Smith, 30, 40 years later and say BET was wrong for honoring the man when he was found innocent in court. So you're parroting a white supremacist narrative. I need Stephen A to pick a side and stay on it because he floats back and forth.

Now, to his credit, at least he does float. Some of them don't even float. They go hard on the white supremacist narrative and stay there. Stephen A go back and forth. I need him to pick a side because every time I'm proud of him, like Stephen A did a good job that they breaking this down from a racial standpoint, he'll go right back to Coonan. So I just need him to pick a side

and stay on it because I don't know where he stands. God bless the dead, but some people would say well now Dr. Umar, you defending the bunny hopper and OJ. Great question. I'm not defending the bunny hopping aspect of OJ. I'm defending the the bunny hopping aspect of OJ. I'm defending the fact that OJ Simpson is a black man.

And when I'm dealing with issues of black men or black people, what they do to one of us, they can do to any of us. And that's why when I look at Jonathan Major's situation, if you would, he had no business bunny hopping. But does that mean his career should have been destroyed over that incident absolutely because she had a cut on the finger and a cut behind the ear or something like that so he gets his whole career destroyed even though we saw on tv he ran from the white girl ran from the white girl and i don't know if you saw what his lawyer said jonathan mayor major's lawyer said he got convicted not not necessarily, and I'm paraphrasing, not necessarily because he abused her, but in defending himself from her abuse, he was too aggressive. What the hell is that? And they found that she was guilty of abuse, but the prosecutor said they didn't have enough information to charge her.

Look at that. So she walks and he gets his career destroyed. That's a damn shame even though he's guilty of bunny hopping i don't want to see that happen to any black man because that could happen to me under other situations or circumstances that don't involve a white woman so even if he's a bunny hopper i still got to separate that out and look at how the impact of this case can affect all black men that's right what are your thoughts about the power that LeBron has in the Lakers organization? Because you brought up Steve Nash and how he had no experience. When you see LeBron, he gets his son drafted and the hiring of J.J. Redick, who's never coached anywhere.

Absolutely. What are your thoughts on that? I'm disappointed in black America because I feel like they're attacking Bronny more than J.J. Redick. I agree with you 100%. How the hell is Bronny James getting all this heat from black America, but J.J. Redick ain't getting all this heat? J.J. Redick ain't never won nothing. He ain't win nothing in college.

He ain't win nothing in the NBA. He wasn't no MVP. I don't know if he was ever first team offense or defense maybe once or twice, but he clearly don't have the record of a Sam Cassell. Sam Cassell should have been offered that Lakers job. And if not the Lakers job, one of the coaching vacancies, look at all these good black assistant coaches out there who are being

overlooked for white privilege. JJ Redick did not earn that position. They gave it to him, but rather than attack that, we want to attack the 19 year old kid. I want LeBron to play with his son because the optics of that, I think will be very positive for young black males. And I think it could be a small motivation for black men to do more with their sons and more with our boys.

So I want to see LeBron and Bronny on the same court with one disclaimer. If I don't catch Bronny James bunny hopping no damn more because he's bunny hopping. I'm not supporting him. Bronny James, I love you, young man. But if I catch you bunny hopping, I'm done with you. You're not going to be a role model bunny-hopping but outside of that I want to see LeBron and his son, right? You want to see that that's a good thing LeBron does so much for basketball and the league He's not the goat that's Kobe and Mike but he does so much for basketball and the league He deserved that why I hate on that and that's that black male jealousy a big problem

We have is black men is we don't like to see each other win. And the reason why we don't like to see each other win is because we operate in that European psychological mode of domination and control over everything. See, when I see y'all, I see I and I. My Rastafari brothers who I'll be with possibly for Garvey Day in Jamaica next month, they say I and I. I and I means that when I speak, I'm speaking as you and I. When you speak, you speaking as me and you. When you hurt, I hurt. When you struggling, I'm struggling. I and I. It is oneness. But we got so much competition amongst us as black men that when we see one win, we don't think nobody else can. And you know where that comes from? The plantation. Back on the slave plantation with the manumission laws, the slave master could only free a couple slaves a year. So if you got a plantation of 500, all of us want to be free, but only one can.

Do you know what that automatically does? That sets us up as rivals. That sets us up as competitors. And that mindset of believing that only one black person can make it at a time is the reason why you get so much hate. It's the reason why you get so much hate. It's the reason why you get so much hate. It's the reason why I get so much hate because we have been conditioned to believe that if DJ Envy is winning on the Breakfast Club, I can't win somewhere else. If Charlamagne is winning on the Breakfast Club, I can't win somewhere else. If Dr. Umar opened up his own school in Delaware, I can't open up one somewhere else. There's enough room for all of us to win. So why do we get so jealous? Because

we've been conditioned to think that the minute we get one winner, everybody else got lose and that's what breeds the envy and the hate in the competition we are not caucasians we are not europeans that's the way we are united we stand divided we fall it's all about i and i not me and you black men got to get back to oneness i want to say something hold on because you said something about brani that was interesting you said brani i can't remember how you worded it just now you say you can't be a hero if he's bunny hopping you can't be a hero if you're bunny hopping but kobe god bless the dead right mj who you both named no i didn't call them role models okay i called him the goats of basketball okay okay i can't and kobe is my personal goat i think he's the greatest basketball player of all time okay i can't hang his picture up in the frederick

douglas marcus garvey academy damn because you bunny hopped i think eddie murphy i'm gonna say he's a close second to richard pryor but eddie's so talented he may have trumped richard but guess what eddie and richard are both bunny hoppers and he got black baby mamas too though i know but his wife is i don't know i think he's okay i don't know he married i don't know well that last one he was with she was you see dave chappelle i love him for his humor dave chappelle ain't married to a black woman his picture can't go up in my school i love him i like him but i can't hold you up as a role model because in order for you to complete that role model process your queen got to look like your mother you see what i'm saying and so i can't hold them up i can respect them i could to complete that role model process, your queen got to look like your mother.

You see what I'm saying? And so I can't hold them up. I can respect them. I can like them. But role model, meaning black menace to come in your image, in your stead, in your path. I can't do that. And that's what I'm hoping. Bronnie James does a bunny hop because he's going to get a lot of his father's cachet. And to LeBron's credit, he married Savannah, a beautiful African queen. I need Bronnie to do the same thing. And if I could talk to LeBon and savannah i want to know why he took a snow bunny to the prom i guess because lebron took a snow bunny to the prom but i need lebron and savannah to work that out because i love y'all as a great black family but your son can't be wrong they've been together since high school

why did somebody send me a picture of lebron with a white girl this was the other day they said he took a white girl to the prom i'm pretty sure he took savannah to the prom i don't know well maybe he went on the white girl's prom. Maybe he took Savannah. Maybe he went on a white girl's prom. But somebody said he took a white girl to the prom. So I got to investigate that. But yeah, no bunny hopping. Black queens forever.

Snow bunnies never. Yeah, they sent me on a text. They said Eddie Murphy is not married. It's just his girlfriend. Okay. Now let me ask you. What is she? What is she?

She's Caucasian. See? She's Caucasian. Eminem. Yes. Can't be the GO goat because he's white is what eminem cannot be the goat because he's white first of all my perspective on this issue is not about eminem i gotta make this clear it could be anybody you follow what i'm saying you could put macklemore in the conversation or uh mc search no caucasian arab east indian european jew latino no non-african can be the best of anything that is african because that is our culture and you never relinquish control over your culture so he could be a great lyricist if they were to say he's one of the best lyricists

of all time they can say that if they want but you ain't no goat you don't put a white person over something that we created that has roots going all the way back to ancient kimmit and you're going to give that over to a caucasian that's not fair you do not do that there's too many black mcs who are better than eminem lyrically who if you're going to go goat status you need to consider but eminem and a lot of them who are saying this are only saying this because they're hoping eminem throw them some money throw them a cameo i don't think they're really speaking out of their truth i think they're speaking out of their desperation to get put on by eminem but i was very disappointed and seeing all these black males come out against me in defense of eminem i think they all went to law school overnight and got a law degree because they

put on some of the best soliloquies i've ever seen and i ain't gonna going to call their names, but I'm disappointed in them because some of them I like. They're my favorite artists, right? And I'm like, come on, bro. You don't feel the need to protect your culture from nobody. And I'm seeing them defend Eminem without his request, without a requirement, without being paid. And you know what bothered me? I've never seen none of them rappers who defended Eminem against me. I've never seen them defend black women like that in public. I've never seen them speak out against domestic violencem against me i've never seen them defend black women like that in public i've never seen them speak out against domestic violence like that i've never seen them speak out against disrespect towards black women in public so you will go to war for a white man here we go white jesus syndrome again i gotta defend my savior you'll go to war for m&m

you'll go to war for caitlyn clark you'll go to war for jj reddick and you'll never lift your voice up to protect a black woman in public. Kendrick Lamar versus Drake. Here's my issue with Kendrick Lamar versus Drake. First of all, shout out to Kendrick. I think he's one of the more socially progressive rappers. Absolutely. I don't see him worshiping materialism like so many of the rest of them do.

I like Kendrick. And when he brought those brothers together to celebrate without any violence, the whole community loving it, I thought it was beautiful. Shout out to Kendrick. But Kendrick, I need you to keep that same energy when it's time to fight against gentrification in Los Angeles, because black people are being displaced in extreme numbers in Los Angeles, Compton, South Central, Long Beach, all in that area. So don't just bring our people together to party and to support your beef with Drake. Bring them together to protest, to march, and to organize against gentrification. Because there is a Mexican bourgeoisie, white bourgeoisie clique in LA that is working together against black people. I'm going to say it.

The Mexicans and the Caucasians, not as a group, but their elites and their leaders are clicking up and working against black people in Los Angeles County and surrounding areas to push us out the neighborhood. Black incarceration rates in California are some of the highest in the country. Kendrick Lamar. Why don't we organize against that? We see. Organize to hire some of our young people. Organize to build a school. Organize to build a hospital. Organize to build a hospital.

I like what he did, but don't tell me you only did that to celebrate the beef. You understand? Use those brothers. Bring them back together and achieve something systematically to help our people. Same thing go for Drake. You in Canada. Black people in Canada struggling. I got a lot of supporters in Canada.

We talk all the time. I'll be going to Canada next month or maybe three months from now. But nonetheless, they're catching the same hell. Miseducation, mass incarceration, gentrification, police genocide, economic apartheid. Drake, are you thinking about building a school? Drake, are you going to open up a supermarket? Drake, are you going to open up a farm and teach these young kids how to farm? Same thing for Kendrick Lamar. Y'all got the money to do it. I'm not pocket watching. But don't bring those people together just to party. You gotall got the money to do it. I'm not pocket watching. But don't bring those people together just to party. You got to bring us together to do something because what you're doing is you're playing on people's emotions.

Black people see Crips and Bloods coming together. Shout out to both of them. Piecing it up. Working together. Enjoying themselves with Kendrick. That was good. We need to social. We need a break.

We need a release. But brother, we also need political progress. We also need economic structure. We also need social progress. So don't just limit it to that. Take it to the next next level and i do got to say this on that note of the whole eminem being the goat you got to have boundaries around your culture when i saw rick ross got swung on by that caucasian that bothered me because here you have a black artist being swung on by a caucasian who also believe was an artist but it was over to Drake beef. We have allowed non Africans to get so comfortable in our culture that they would step to an

artist and swing on them in the name of a beef that is all black. That ain't got nothing to do with them and feel completely comfortable swinging on a black artist. That should not be acceptable. We're not all black. Say that again. Not all black. What do you mean?

Cause Drake is not all black. He's half black. Well, there's really no such thing as half. Okay. He's a black man with a white mother. But to what I understand, and I guess this is controversial, because I believe Drake always identified as black. That's what I saw.

I don't follow him heavy, but that's what I saw. I'm hearing people say he didn't necessarily always. People say it was cosplay. It was cosplay. What you mean? Meaning that he was pretending pretending to uh imitate black american culture in order to drake drake i saw that now when when was that in his life it's not acceptable but was that recent was he a kid i think more so when he became a rapper as you've seen him evolve

you know i mean okay because you know remember originally they had the video he had the bar mitsvah in the video okay he was just a cool jewish kid but over the years he was always black he was always okay so i don't know if you ever claim to be black american though i never heard that from drake okay so you can't be black so we don't know if he ever said i'm mixed race i'm not black i'm mixed race i've never heard he's always claimed his jewishness always yes yes he's always he's always claimed that yes okay so he's always been unapologetic about the jewishness absolutely but not necessarily unapologetic about being black i haven't heard that but then he needs to clarify that i would need drink to clarify that for me

i think it's been both you think i think he's been black but he's also said that he's jewish i don't have a problem with him saying that because he don't have to renounce his mother to be a black man you follow what i'm saying but i need him to be unapologetic about his blackness and if he's more unapologetic about being jewish than he is about being african then i can't consider him one of us he got to clarify that for me right i'm working from the assumption that he's made it clear that i'm black and i know that's who I am. If he ain't made that clear, then I need some answers from Drake, which means Kendrick is justified in his criticism, not like us. He told Kendrick, he said, yo, you always rapping like you want to set the slaves free.

What's wrong with that? Drake said that? Yes, in one of the diss records. I didn't know that. Oh, yeah. Oh, man, Drake. Oh, no. He said you rap like you always want to set the slaves free.

That's why Kendrick said on his record, uh once upon a time we all was in chains yes sir homie still doubled down calling us some slaves yes sir that's why he said that in response to what drake said i didn't know drake oh man coming back here come to last oh no okay i got the table this one i got some research to do drake hit me up up. If this is wrong, I need clarity, my brother. I need clarity. Now I understand where Kendrick came from. But my thing again with Kendrick, love him, like him, take this to another

level. You have that type of influence amongst our people where you can bring opposing parties together, have fun and enjoy themselves. Let's build something with that energy. We can't stop with partying. We have to procreate another thing kendrick said he said he didn't want to hear drake say uh say the word nigga no more and you were on little yachties a safe place podcast and you said uh that the use of the

n-word should be outlawed because of ptsd absolutely dramatic slavery absolutely michael jamal warner was up here he feels the same way so yes nobody should be using it because when i call you an ni double ga you don't you never met me before and charlamagne said he come on or envy said he come on are you expecting to see a lawyer a doctor a business owner when you get the prefix ni wga are you expecting anything positive to walk through that door no there's you see so the word does not have a positive connotation and here's the bigger question why are we trying to rescue the most racially offensive and derogatory term ever used in the history of mankind you don't see european jews trying to rescue uh the pejorative terms used against them you don't see latinos doing that you don't see asians show me and other people who are fighting for the right to use the most dehumanizing label

in history to refer to each other in a social space it speaks to the self hate it speaks to the fact that we do feel inferior to other people because if I didn't feel inferior there's no way in hell I would fight for the right for envy to call me that

I got a few more questions Philadelphia well just in general what do you think about school choice because we saw what happened in pennsylvania recently where everybody got upset with jay-z because jay-z decided him and rock nation decided to uh you know be a benefactor to this school choice did he change direction because i don't think he really knew he's not an educator so i think sean carter thought he was doing something positive yes did he change direction or did he say i'm staying with this initiative i'm not sure yeah i'm not okay i'm wondering he should he should

change direction okay mr carter remember we met back in 1997 priscilla gymnasium millersville university that was me hove anyway we brought him to the spring flame concert, him and KRS-One back when I was BSU president. Anyhow, I do not support school choice. I'm going to tell you why. DJ Envy and Charlamagne are millionaires. Dr. Umar is not. DJ and Envy hypothetically got multiple children. So if school choice is going to give them $10,000 per child, you good with that. You know why?

You can pay the other $30,000 for your four children's private school tuition. I can't. I'm a working class brother raising four kids on my own if the pub if new york city public schools give me 10 grand or philadelphia public schools give me 10 grand or newark new jersey public schools give me 10 grand i still got to come up with the other 30 i still got to come up with the other 20 my point is school choice only benefits middle and upper middle class black families most of our kids are raised by who they mother 67 50 of all homeless families are black women and their children 50 which is why i got to get on eric adams and brandon when we get to the migrant crisis but my point is this

how does school choice benefit poor parents how does it benefit working class i'm barely paying my mortgage and you see the price of everything has went up. Everything. Food, utilities, rent. How am I going to pay all these bills as a single black mother raising 67% of our kids and still find money to offset the cost of tuition? It's not realistic. School choice is a scam. It makes poor people think that we're going to give you an opportunity to send your child to a better school, although know you can't pay the balance it's a scam i do not support school choice so you don't know and i got another thing don't forget about black boys dj envy hypothetically dj envy son is

a problem child charlamagne daughter is a problem child even though y'all can afford the tuition you got a problem you know why because the catholic school can accept who they want the private school can accept who they want when they see all them pink slips and your son's record, when they see all those pink slips and your daughter's record, even though y'all can afford it, even though y'all celebrities, they're going to say, get out of here. And there's nothing you can do because they independent or they parochial. They can operate like that. Public schools got to take everybody, not the independent schools. So here's my question. Where are all the black kids nobody want going to go once new york city becomes a complete school choice district you see that we're shutting down public schools find a private or find a private or parochial school pickle 10k but nobody wants your son where he going to go you see what i'm saying you're basically going to create a massive

black male high school dropout academic epidemic it's not like we don't have one you're basically going to create a massive black male high school dropout academic epidemic it's not like we don't have one but it's going to be mushroomed because nobody has to take your child so all these adhd boys edd oppositional uh intermittent explosive riddell and adderall concerta cycler medley who want them because remember the private schools don't have to have special ed catholic schools don't have to have special ed they ain't got no special class for that emotionally disturbed boy who gonna take them nobody it's the quickest way to destroy the futures of black boys i do not support school choice this is republican scam now let's go to the migrant issue yes sir which everybody uh wants to label when whenever you talk about what the black activists in chicago are going through

whenever you talk about what black people here in Chicago are going through, or whenever you talk about what black people here in New York are complaining about, they'll say, that's MAGA messaging. How is it MAGA messaging? It's not MAGA messaging. Listen, the bottom line is when Joe Biden got elected, he said he wanted to fast track 4 million undocumented residents to full citizenship. Black people completely ignored it. I spoke on it.

I said, do you know why he want to fast track 4 a million because he know he's not going to do nothing for us we ain't going to be motivated to vote for him november so what he's going to do is have these migrants already set up with citizenship so they can replace the black vote that he loses the migrants are being put in our communities on purpose new york and chicago on purpose because they are what the two blackest cities in America. They're the two largest cities in America. They're the two most politically conscious black communities in America. So if we can wash out the black with the brown in New York, if we can wash out the black with the brown in Chicago, Philly don't stand a chance. Atlanta

don't stand a chance. LA, Houston, Dallas, Detroit, Chicago don't stand a chance la houston dallas detroit chicago don't stand a chance the migrants are here for three reasons replace us at the polls replace us at the uh low low-end industry jobs right see when donald trump said during the debate that joe biden is taking black jobs and giving them to migrants he was correct although he didn't say it because he cared about us but he's right when people say what do you mean by black jobs get out your bougie feelings and deal with the reality one-third of black men have a felony so there's a lot of jobs they will never qualify for they are mostly what essential workers warehouse trucking security and a lot of those jobs are going to who the migrants so that's what he meant by black jobs we got to stop being so sensitive and look at the reality of it.

I was reading a report the other day. They said the Latinos taking over the construction jobs. They taking them over. And the low industry work like your gardening, your landscaping, completely taking it over. They're not the enemy. The problem is black people don't get as much opportunity. So then people say, well, you know, white people don't really like brown people like that. That's true. But you know what the difference is they don't

have the burden of accountability with them that they have with us we built the country so every time they look at us to deal with us the bottom line is y'all brought them here and they built y'all into what y'all are they don't have to say that to the venezuelans they don't have to say that to the colombians they don't have to say that to the mexicans so although they don't like brown they would much rather deal with them than the black because with the black there is a white man's burden that you owe them restitution for 246 years of unpaid labor now let's look at what erie adams is doing over there in new york a family of four is getting fourteen hundred dollars a month fourteen hundred dollars a month do you know that that's more than what some of the veterans are getting with the child

they're getting more money than veterans who served in the military. Not only that, they're getting free food stamps, free child care, and permanent housing. Although New York City has a black homelessness rate no less than 35%. So you got black people who pay taxes living on the street. And you got migrants who ain't paid a single tax in their life, eating and living better than the black people who built the country. If I was talking to Eric Adams and Brandon Johnson of Chicago, I would ask them something.

What is the Democratic Party giving you guys that you're willing to sacrifice your political future to push this migrant agenda? Because I don't see how they get reelected by black folks. I don't see how. And if your city goes to the the migrants you can best believe the migrants ain't electing no black person to mayorship so you're literally dying on your sword for the democratic party do you know that new york city has spent one and a half billion dollars on the migrant crisis so far it's projected that this year 20 so 2023 was one1.5 billion to take care of the migrant.

$1.5 billion. 2024 and 2025, they said it would cost New York City $9 billion. Chicago has spent about $350 million this year on the migrant crisis, and that's expected to quadruple. And you know what was so disrespectful about Chicago with regard to Brandon Johnson? Remember all them schools they shut down in Chicago because they said they couldn't afford to operate them? They opened them up. Not only did they open them up, they renovated them.

They renovated them, turned them into apartments for migrants. So you sleep upstairs, go to school downstairs. How is it that you ain't got money for jobs for black people, which is a big reason why you got so much crime? You got all these homeless black people in Chicago, but you can take care of the migrants before you take care of black people and that's why i'm hoping that black chicago organizes just like co-founder of the black panther party uh bobby seal did at the 1968 democratic national convention in chicago bobby seal turned up and turned it out with the black panthers i hope chicago doesn't let president biden and vice president harris

come there because you know the democratic national convention is in chicago right august 19th through august the 21st i hope black chicago don't let the democrats come to your city where they have bred this migrant crisis and y'all don't do nothing about it and i'm gonna tell you else needs to stand up and show out milwaukee even though they don't have a migrant crisis like Chicago and New York, the Republican Convention is in Milwaukee next Monday. This coming Monday. And guess what? Milwaukee, black people are the largest ethnic group. Unlike Chicago, it's white, Hispanic, black.

Milwaukee is black, white, Hispanic. But guess what? Milwaukee has one of the worst black male graduation rates in America. So I'm hoping that black Wisconsin goes to that Republican national convention and exercise their first amendment rights to peacefully assemble and protest. But don't let them come to your city after causing all these problems and let them leave without them hearing from you. They are replacing us. America, if they can do it, they're going to purge black people with brown.

Why do you think the New York regents, did you see that they said they're going to stop requiring the regents examination to get your high school diploma in New York? Is it that convenient? All of a sudden, we get a migrant crisis in New York, and now you don't have to pass the regents no more. You know why? Because we got to make sure the migrants take all the jobs from black folks. They're already taking over the social services.

They dominate the social services. Are you black and hungry and need some food? Too migrants got it same thing in chicago you black and hungry need some food need a job the migrants got it i'm trying to understand how eric adams and brandon johnson can hand out all these work permits when you got all these unemployed black men half of black men in new york unemployed half of black men in chicago unemployed but you got migrants getting jobs. You're holding job fairs for migrants. You're giving out job passes for migrants. And you know because of the election fraud if you got a work permit, it ain't that hard to get a voting

registration permit. But I got a question for Eric Adams. Did y'all see he said that he was thinking about staffing the pools during the summer with migrants because they're good swimmers. 40% of black teens, 15 to 24, that age group are unemployed in New York.

Mayor Eric Adams, how you going to give the lifeguard jobs to the migrants when half your black kids ain't got no job? Don't you think you should start with the children of the black people who pay taxes? I really don't understand them too. I do kind of feel sorry for them. Maybe he feel like black people can't swim.

He's buying into that stereotype put some money out there we're going to swim but my thing is i know they know what they're doing isn't good for their political future the only thing i can think of is they're too afraid to tell the democratic national machine that i'm not going to go along with this because, you know, they can destroy them. I really think they're being forced to sacrifice their career in order to purge their own people from the two largest cities. Now, if people do want to help and donate for your school, of course, can you give them the information where they can donate?

Absolutely. Also, I just started a new mailing list. So I want all the viewers, supporters to go to any of my social media pages. You can go to DrUmarJohnson.com, but you can go to Twitter and Instagram at DrUmarJohnson, Facebook, DrUmar Ifatunde, and TikTok, Prince of Pan-Africanism. Click on the bio, click on my link tree, and subscribe to the mailing list.

I'm going to start sending out once a month updates because not everybody on social media, then I get suspended for whatever reasons ever so occasionally from going live. So this way I can stay in touch with them. One of the things I'm going to be doing before the election is I'm going to put together the Bishop Turner National Independent Black Political Movement. I want to bring all young black voters under the age of 30 together,

try to get a couple million of us, enough to make some noise, and we're going to demand a meeting with both nominees from both major parties. All right? We're going to sit down with Trump, sit down with Biden. If you don't come and have a conversation with us, we're not giving anybody our vote. The black vote only matters if it gets organized. If anybody needs to reach me, consultation with your children, mental health evaluation review. You can text me direct. The number been public for 19 years. Two one five nine eight nine nine eight five eight. That's two one five nine eight nine nine eight five eight. This Sunday coming Sunday, July 14th, I believe it is 14. OK, from 10 to six, there's a free black book giveaway. Bring your children are giving out free books for children.

Source of knowledge bookstore eight six seven Broad Street, Newark, New Jersey. Source of Knowledge Bookstore, Sunday, July 14th, 10 to 6. I will be giving, it's outdoors, on the street, vendors food, the whole thing. It's free. I will be giving a talk to parents on navigating the special education to prison pipeline, navigating the ADHD to psychiatric medication pipeline, navigating the ADHD to psychiatric medication pipeline. So it's going to be a free talk. If you need help for your children, bring your psychological evaluations, bring your IEPs, bring your behavior plans. It's going to be

a free review at the Social Knowledge Bookstore in Newark this coming Sunday, 10 to 6. I speak at two. Three quick points for our parents. Number one, the younger your child is, the less likely you should be getting them evaluated. The younger the child, Charlamagne, the more likely we may misdiagnose. Three years old is too young for autism evaluation. Four years old is too young for ADHD.

Five years old is too young for reading disability. The younger the child, the less items we can ask them anyway because they're so young. So you don't get a good read. I need black parents to slow down. And my Afro Latino parents slow down. Stop getting your children evaluated so quickly. The school wants them tested quickly in the Charlemagne. Why? Because special ed begins at age three, which means they can start getting the money at age three. Special ed is age three to 21.

So when your child goes to preschool and they're not talking too good and not walking too good, first thing they want to do is get an eval. Slow down, give my child a chance to show me what he can do. Because if you go looking for an evaluation, you're going to get a diagnosis because that's how they get paid, by giving out the diagnosis.

Notorious B.I.G. said what? More money, more problems. Well, in the world of mental health, more problems, more money So slow down on the eval Number two Do not get your child evaluated For ADHD, conduct disorder, ODD

Emotional disturbance Or intermittent explosive disorder I'm going to say it again If you're black Do not get your child evaluated For ADHD, conduct disorder Emotional disturbance Intermittent explosive disorder

Because it only leads to what? Medication. America has no answer for a black or Afro-Latino kid diagnosed with one of them syndromes. They're going to put them on drugs. And if you decide to discontinue the medication, child protective services will be called and they will confiscate your children. It's called medical neglect. And it's one of the fastest reasons black parents are losing their children to a foster care If you don't plan to drug them up and you shouldn't want to anyway Do not get him evaluated if you think they too hyper go to the health store There's all kind of herbal concoctions. You can put under the tongue. There's a product called calm child. There's a product called be calm

There's a product called Melissa supreme where they take herbs that calm down a central nervous system But guess what the herbs are not even going to work if he's a product called Be Calm. There's a product called Melissa Supreme, where they take herbs that calm down the central nervous system. But guess what? The herbs are not even going to work. If he's a regular, normal, healthy boy, and you're not giving him enough opportunity to release his natural testosterone. A big problem with all of this is boys need to move around. In fact, the research even shows boys learn better in the Charlemagne when they move.

So why are they still sitting still for eight hours when the research said the neuroscience says boys learn better when they move because the teachers the caucasian nation the teachers that run the school they don't want to move them they want to sit in that chair because it makes their job easier so a lot of times this is not an adhd problem it's an ain't no daddy at home disorder problem it's an artificial diet at home disorder problem okay it is a uh it's an attachment disruption due to home life dysfunction problem as well. That's number two. Third and my final one.

If you don't understand the paperwork, call me. Parents are signing off on evaluations they didn't read. They signing off on diagnosis they don't agree with. If you don't think your child is retarded, why did you sign? If you don't think they need special ed, why did you sign? Stop signing paperwork they don't agree with. If you don't think your child is retarded, why did you sign? If you don't think they need special ed, why did you sign? Stop signing paperwork you don't agree with and you don't understand. That's what Dr. Umar is here. I will make time to look at your paperwork.

Stop signing because they signing our kids away into full-time special ed and they don't even realize it. And you got to go to these IEP meetings. If you're going to put your child in special ed, take care of your child. I got black parents. Put their kids in special ed. White ones too, but I'm talking about our community. Put their kids in special ed and never go to an IEP meeting for 12 years. Now he's about to graduate, Charlemagne.

Guess what? He can't read. And now you're upset at the school district. He can't read. How many IEP meetings you went to since you put him in special ed? First of all, he should have never been in special ed in the first grade because he too young for special ed. But if you're going to do it, at least look out for the child.

We got to do a better job of protecting our kids from the special education to prison pipeline. Because when I go speak, speak in these jails and I speak regularly in the prisons, always ask the inmates to raise your hand. How many of you was in special ed? Damn, that every hand go up black, white, brown, yellow and white. Every hand goes up just about you see what I'm saying special ed causes more problems than it's solved most of our kids just need a tutor to that point how many of our kids are reading books this summer how many of our kids are going to the black bookstores this summer how many of our kids are being taken to the public library this summer to read something most of them are not they own this right here this is destroying academic excellence in the black community this and for my black fathers out, I know your son want to be a basketball player.

I know you want him to be a football player. But if he can't read on grade level, what is he doing in AAU? If he can't count on grade level, what is he doing in the summer league? You mean you care more about your son being a good football player, a basketball player, than a productive adult? Half the black boys in America in fourth grade can't read on their grade level. Half the black boys in America in the eighth grade can't count on their grade level. But yet, we pushing football. There should be

no video game in your house, no cell phone in your house, and nobody should be in no summer league if they can't read and count on grade level. We gotta get back to black excellence. There you have it. Dr. Umar. Dr. Umar Johnson. Appreciate you for joining us, brother. Thank you, fellas. Thank you. And it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Alright. Wake that ass up.

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