The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Earthgang Talks New 'Perfect Fantasy' Album, Dreamville, Cole, Drake, KDot, Pharrell, Diddy + More
Episode Date: October 25, 2024The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Earthgang To Discuss Their New 'Perfect Fantasy' Album, Dreamville, Cole, Drake, KDot, Pharrell, And Diddy. Listen For More! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy ...information.
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Wake that ass up.
Earth in the morning.
The Breakfast Club.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are The Breakfast Club.
Jess is on maternity leave, so Lauren LaRosa is filling in.
We also got our niece, Nyla, with us today.
Big Nyla.
And we got some special guests in the building.
We got Earth Gang, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome.
Yo, yo, what up, man?
What's up?
I listen to y'all every morning, bro.
I can't hold it, bro.
I become one of y'all.
I become one of y'all core, bro.
I appreciate that.
P1 listener.
We need those.
Oh, my God.
They back with their fifth studio album, Perfect Fantasy.
Yes.
Yeah, Perfect Fantasy.
What is the Perfect Fantasy, man?
It's whatever you make it.
It's whatever you make it, bro.
Life is a video game, and how you play it is the fantasy.
That's what we're doing with this project, though.
We decided to put it together how we wanted to and kind of make it is the fantasy. That's what we're doing with this project, though. You know, we decided to put it together how we wanted to
and kind of, like, make it our own world.
You know, throw all the rules out and just do what we like,
do what our fan base and our core fan base like.
I never felt like Earthgang had rules, though.
So, like, that's interesting to hear y'all say.
I felt like y'all always moved to the beat of your own drum.
We kind of did, but I can't lie.
You know what I'm saying?
We had a period of time where we was trying to, like, you know,
figure out what was working for others, I guess. You know what I'm saying? It's had a period of time where we was trying to like you know figure out what was working for others i guess you know what i'm
saying it's like well we gotta do this you gotta do that but like chasing the wave chasing
not necessarily chasing a sound wave or even necessarily a trend it's just you get signed
to a label and you're like okay cool i want to be as successful as the rest of these on this label
when we was already kind of headed that direction serving our core so it's like nah let's just do
the we love.
We started Earthgang basically as like a music fan club when we was kids.
You know what I'm saying?
We was literally just from the piracy generation stealing music,
swapping music.
And this album is kind of a tribute to that era.
It's a tribute to all the shit we came up being fans of.
We got Gorillaz on it.
We got Neptunes on it.
We got, you know what I'm saying?
People that we used to- Lil Dragon.
You know what I'm saying?
These are all people that we was fans of that like build our friendship and we wanted to pay tribute to that
Was that pressures? Sorry was that pressures of the label telling you guys to look around?
No, it's like people it's kind of like can't even blame nobody else
As a business owner you always gonna like go over your yearly reports and see what's working
What's not working and sometimes you put that before?
What you want to create as a human being you're gonna look left and right and compare and that's just some you gotta outgrow
and then let that go but i mean on dreamville it's like cole is clearly the most successful right
then it's like yeah it's his life has had some really really real success you know so i mean
but y'all's all so different i'm like why other than the success part what would y'all compare
well it's not it wasn't even comparing with Dreamville. I'm talking about Interscope, bro.
I'm talking about when we signed with Interscope.
Because Dreamville is kind of like, hey,
everybody do what you want.
It's a big fun party.
But we was on Interscope, and I was, you know,
there's other rappers on that shit.
You meet niggas.
You see niggas show up in different places.
Y'all get the same parties.
This nigga showed up in this, and you showed up in that.
And it's like, well, why I ain't show up in that?
And it's a feeling that you got to process, let let go and then realize what brought you here in the first
place i like that honestly it was your own core yeah what era did you guys realize that because
i feel like you guys have always been pretty ghetto guys yeah yeah ghetto guys and what's
funny ghetto guys did everything we set out for it to do the the niggas was with you yeah but our core fan base is not i think
niggas you know what i'm saying they they i mean a lot of them a lot of them
even outside of crackers it's just like a certain type of like just core person yeah a musician a
person a person who's like really exploitive in life you know what i'm saying they want to
eventually life and we but we we from atl, even though we got that in us, though.
So, like, when we was in Atlanta, it was easy to, like, go and do these shows
and, like, connect with the black people in Atlanta.
But when we stepped outside of that, then we seen, like, our music really just
affects people all across the world.
The world, dog.
We was the only artists traveling in the pandemic.
We was the only niggas, like, doing New Zealand shows.
You know what I'm saying?
So, like, we had to see that impact.
But then when we made Ghetto Guys, it was was during the pandemic so we was primarily at the crib you know
what i'm saying so these are stories we we are as we write what we see these are stories of people
that we grew up with that we seeing again after we done traveled new zealand after we done did two
tours in europe after we done did south africa we back home for two and a half years seeing like our
shawty kind of in the same situation
she growing but she's still in the same situation now our lives are different and then it's like we
clashed again not like class violently but it's like we come to see all of this stuff so we writing
this stuff in the music and it's not connecting with everybody in our fan base because that you
know what i'm saying it's not like well shit if we're gonna connect we might as well just be free
just do what the fuck you want you know what i'm saying? It's not what it was. It was like, well, shit, if we're going to connect, we might as well just be friends and do what the fuck you want.
You know what I'm saying?
With Ghetto Guys,
I love that album,
but a lot of it was,
you know, like you said,
you go back home,
your older cousins
and big homies and shit,
they're like,
hey, man, make some for us.
Make some for us.
Make some for us.
And we're like,
all right, man.
We got you, bro.
Actually, that last shit
was for y'all, too.
I can't help it for you.
Yeah, yeah,
mirror that one for you, too.
That one for you, too.
We got thugs on that one, bro.
You know what I'm saying? But all right, cool. We got thugs on that one bro.
But alright cool, we'll try to at least package it more for y'all and then what happened?
We won the BET war.
We didn't even go that year bro.
I swear to God bro.
I was like, yeah, we not going bro.
We was on tour with the gorillas.
We was on tour with the gorillas.
They was like, do y'all want to hop off and go to BET war?
I was like, bro, we ain't finna win.
We finna just stay on tour with these British folks they was like do y'all want to hop off and go to bt or what i'm like bro we ain't finna win we finna you know i'm saying we finna just stay on tour with these with these
british folks and you know i'm saying keep doing this shit end up winning so the goal was achieved
we made something for niggas that was asking us to make some shit and it went well but then we
also had to step back and be like but like what's like the core of who we are and who we are is
boundless expression you know i'm saying yeah it's just boundless expression. Niggas plus song. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's just boundless expression.
It's some nigga in there.
It's some cracker in there.
It's some, you know what I'm saying?
I don't want to say all the slurs, but we can slur it up.
We can do the list.
We got it.
That's enough.
Did the outcast comparisons get to y'all a little bit?
Not once.
That was never an issue.
That was never an issue.
It's never, I mean, even with all the artists that we love, you said little dragon gorillas outcast neptunes like those are artists that
always you know I'm saying like do what they want to do but I think even even
without cares I mean I know a lot of people sleep on what the second what the
second project was not a second one second one it's the aliens ATL is a lot
of people sleep on ATL is you You know what I'm saying? Like, people jump from Southern Play to Listic.
Bro, a lot of people sleep on ATLians, bro.
That's what I'm saying.
But he from Atlanta, though.
You know what I'm saying?
So a lot of people sleep on ATLians.
But, like, for folks in Atlanta, when, you know, you like Fishing Grits and all that,
when that stuff come on, like, people start losing it.
But, like, you know, a lot of people like Speakerboxx, Love Blow.
A lot of people go to Spodeo the Dopealicious.
You know, all these records on the criminal and stuff.
But, like, there is just a process of, like, you jump right out there,
you come back home, you're seeing what's going on,
and you jump back out there again, you come back home.
I think a lot of artists go through that stuff.
It's natural.
And clearly all success isn't created equal, right?
Because y'all traveling all around the world, you know,
sold out shows, making money, but then when you come home,
you walk in Magic City and don't get that love,
you're like, I want it here.
I see that with a lot of artists too.
We get the love in Magic City.
I think we got like a hometown love there
because some of them, them strippers,
I still went to high school with.
So I've been seeing them like, you know what I'm saying?
It's like, that's a different type of candy.
I love Magic City, but I'm like, man,
where is this girl with the 40 and up strippers?
We get the love.
We took the gorillas up through there.
I want to say, we took the gorillas to Magic City.
We get the love. Folks show love. But it's the gorillas up through that. I want to say, we took the gorillas up through that.
We get the love.
Folks show love.
But it's like, it's more of a person-to-person love rather than like...
Fuck with y'all music.
Yeah, I fuck with y'all.
Not even just the music, but I fuck with what y'all doing.
Y'all niggas inspire me.
It's not that I play y'all shit all the time, whatever.
But it's like, y'all niggas inspire me.
Y'all try to make records for the club that y'all go to?
Or is it like, nah, we just hit it off?
Nah, I don't never. Because that shit change all the time, too. Y'all try to make records for the club that y'all go to or is it like, nah, we just hit on a club?
Nah, I don't never, I don't never, cause like that shit change all the time too.
You can't really, that's a little too fast to chase, you know what I'm saying?
Like, like them kind of records, you know what I'm saying?
Some of them be high one week in the club and then the next week it's not, it's like,
nobody here no more.
There are artists that make music for the club, you know what I'm saying?
K-Camp, shout out to K-Camp, bro.
Y'all make the vibes that we want to come in here and listen to, you know's y'all that's y'all thank you y'all mentioned k camp k camp slept
on to me he is for sure i was with k camp two days ago bro in the studio in atlanta we we be kicking
it we got the same producer i'm in there with him bro and i'm like it's my first time i really have
like a long conversation bro and one thing he said to me was like man i'm envious of y'all niggas
touring y'all tour all over the place i was like i was literally telling like bro i'm envious of like
the hits you be having like you be having like you know you always consistently have something
that like anybody can bop and he was like yeah but when i go to new york like i don't i don't
sell as many tickets and i'm like damn so it's like really just you know what i'm saying grass
is greener kind of like yeah it's all says not equals like i'm i equal it's all sets not equal it's like I'm looking at what you got
like damn I want that
he looking at what we got
like damn I want that
so that's why you really
just gotta love what you got
that's right
I do feel like you guys
have those records
like I feel like
New Body was like that
and I feel like Bank
was like that too
yeah
Bank was ancestrally blessed
cause my cousin
made that beat
and we got the same grandma
and she was like boom
before we get into the new project i
definitely want to touch on uh ghetto guys the record power because i feel like it was a little
prophetic in like a weird way the way the year panned out but the game the world lose your soul
skull and bones puffy combs so tell me why he called us about that line no No! Wait, this is prior. You sure that's what he was calling you about? This is prior.
What's the time frame on when you say the call?
This is like 2022,
right after that song dropped.
I don't know,
Diddy from Adam.
Didn't think,
look, gotta say that right.
I ain't saying.
I've never been to his house.
I didn't know.
You know what I'm saying?
We get a call one day
from a mysterious number.
I'm at the crib.
I'm on the Xbox.
You get a call
from a mysterious number.
Motherfucking, I guess they called management. He us and he's like yo the next time that number call let's just pick up see what's going on facetime open the facetime
it's motherfucking diddy what this nigga want to talk about he want to talk about how clean and
pure his soul is and i'm like hey bro i don't know you nigga i don't care i have nothing to
gain from this conversation and he was like hey man I heard what y'all said on that song.
I just want to let you know I'm on a love wave right now, man.
I'm clean.
Everything's good.
Everything's pure.
I'm like, bro, I literally, that line came to me from a lightning bolt from heaven, bro.
I didn't know.
Yeah.
I didn't think of that shit.
I wasn't trying to insult you.
I didn't even know he was going to hear it.
Say that line again.
Oh.
I'm about to get him subpoenaed.
What was it?
That was not it. What was it? not it gain the world lose your skull i mean gain the
world lose your soul skull and bones puffy combs damn what did that from an artist's interpretation
what did that line mean when you i was just saying like you know what i'm saying just kind of playing
with people's fear of like the illuminatis and like that like i like throwing little hints of
like ooh spooky and it's like, I don't know
what Diddy actually been through.
I had no idea that this was gonna happen,
and I definitely didn't know
he was gonna come.
Even like when...
You look like, nigga, stop lying.
We already still know.
I had no clue, bro.
Bro, I be in College Park, bro.
When I go back home,
I still be in the hood.
I don't know.
I love CeeLo's verse, but it is like what he's talking about, too.
Why nobody looking at me like a bad bitch.
Like, I think that line is mad weird, but it kind of.
But no, it's not.
I think CeeLo was kind of talking about like just how air, like if you're not useful, you're
useless in the industry in some type of way.
You know what I'm saying?
He was just like, but you got to be able to find
the right spaces for you to be valuable
rather than trying to sell yourself to everybody
walking in the rooms and being like,
y'all don't want to use me for this,
y'all don't want to use me for that
because that's when you get in positions
where you're taking advantage of.
I would love to know the conversations
that y'all have had with people like CeeLo, or
even the Three Stacks.
Because I know, maybe not, because they were kind of like the first, so they came before
all of the trap music and everything else.
They didn't really have nothing to look at and be like, damn, we don't sound like Atlanta,
because they were Atlanta.
They were the Atlanta fans.
Yeah, they were.
And for them, that was what it was.
For them, that's what it was.
And it's so crazy.
We've talked to, obviously, them since, and they've had all type of, you know what I'm saying,
dimensions to their careers.
And, you know what I'm saying,
it's always the same advice, be yourself.
Which, you know, it sounds cliche until you actually do it,
and it's like, oh, wait, actually, this is 100% working.
Like, nigga, just being me is working.
Goody Mob is some of the greatest rapping ever
in the history of your life.
I still talk to Cujo like a bitch, bro.
Like, Cujo a real nigga, bro.
Go listen to C-Lo
verse on
One Million Niggas Inside.
Yeah, he snagged.
Oh, he snagged.
He went crazy.
He barred that shit up.
What?
What?
Bring up Diddy and Hannah.
Diddy and Hannah.
Light bulb moment.
It wasn't gonna be Diddy,
I swear.
Let's talk Pharrell.
How was working with Pharrell?
And how did you
pretty amazing?
It was like something I would have.
He's another one that's like, he goes outside the box.
Yeah.
That was also during the pandemic.
So he had us get, you know, COVID tested before pulling up to the crib.
We went down to Miami.
Went down to Miami.
Walk in.
It's the boat out there.
The water out there and stuff.
He got a health station.
We taking big B12 shots and stuff.
While we recording, we got IVs in.
Why are you just getting healthy?
But also, we drinking tequila at the same time.
Wow.
It's for real.
I know that's right.
We all got to go on tequila?
He had a drink that he was claiming his during that time.
I don't know if it was tequila.
You got to be careful with that, guys.
As soon as you said it, I said, oh, he just said his stuff.
I did.
I did.
But you know his intro, I heard you say it. I said, oh, he just set his cell phone. I did. I did. But you know, I heard you say earlier that you wanted that vintage sound.
When I listened to that song, I'm like, it sounds like old Neptune.
Well, yeah.
I mean, the initial process was with, you know what I'm saying?
We grew up listening to the Neptunes, you know what I'm saying?
We grew up burning their CDs and stealing them and trading them with the other homies,
you know what I'm saying?
Grinding beat is a classic. Nightmares, grinding, you know what I'm saying like grinding beat is a classic like I absolutely nightmares grinding you know what I'm saying
you name it bro like so we wanted we wanted to be in that kind of bag with them you know what I'm
saying do the full count do the stuff that like like I said even when we working with the gorillas
like it was all the that like like a from the south side in Atlanta or from the south
west side of Atlanta dreamed of being around that type of so it was it was a dream come true I will
say Pharrell started a bunch of songs with us
and then he did some
like Cat in the Hat shit
and like just like
put a hat on
and walked out
onto the ocean.
He got on the boat
and left.
And just left mid-session.
What?
Bro.
Did he be like,
I'll be right back?
No.
He was like,
love you guys.
I'm out.
Enjoy this.
And just like walked away.
Is that what y'all was doing?
We finished the records.
We got back to work.
We got both stuff on.
I'm like, get back to work.
And they had a boat pull up to his back door and left.
And I was like, yeah, this means it.
Did he come back?
No.
Never saw him again.
I know.
How many records did y'all do?
We did about five or six.
When he's on, you got it, though.
Yeah, he on, you got it.
He just left y'all hooks and all that?
Well, they did the beat and the hook for You Got It.
And then he did a couple.
He bounced around on a couple of them for a little while. And then he did a couple, he bounced around on a couple of
them for a little while, and then he left a bunch of beats.
And then he just left.
Did y'all walk around this house when y'all had to go to
the bathroom late?
Let me see what this house look like.
We went upstairs.
There's a successors and stuff upstairs.
They went upstairs.
I'm going to go through anybody's house
so you kick me out.
Yeah.
But he had to clear the record though, right?
Yeah.
OK, so.
Yeah, I mean, he fucked with the song.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's funny.
Not counting the hat. T-Pain's on the album with which village village. Yes
Why did he pain why not?
Like I say you can actually just talk to he gonna tell you some real shit that he been through
I'm gonna give you some you know saying necessary words of caution
Like a lot of these niggas out here what i'm saying be dead in the eyes and
he still got the youth and the life in his eyes like that's just important
what's the craziest he paints three days so y'all nothing i mean the craziest story i would say is
just the the whole about him you know saying being rich the story he tell everybody
he was rich as 19 and how that went down here you know what i'm saying but like
that's a good story
told you like that to me is on the way like that helps but i remember you know what i'm saying t-pain also got us pretty drunk and we just talked about it you know what i'm saying
but he also we did the song tequila with him before that and that was that was just a proper
moment we didn't get to do that in real time but then after that we did that we did that love you
more and he was like he was kind of holding it for his shit, and then he was like, I don't really know what to do
with this, and then by the time he gave it to us, he was like, I'm so glad y'all got
it, I put it in the right hands, like, I don't want to, like, I ain't know what to do with
this shit, so.
People love that record, too.
People really love that record.
Y'all are so reminiscent of so many different things, and you're working with people that,
like, hearing you say you made a song, Tequila, with T-Pain, I instantly think, of course,
buy you a drink, and like, do y'all, is there pressure at that point where you're like, hmm, like we want
to deliver?
How about you tell me how you felt when you heard T-Pain, like the Bayou would drink and
being young.
That's it.
I mean, there's no pressure.
All you want to do is just enjoy the moment.
I'm about to say the pressure is alleviated by the dream, bro.
It's like, damn, I can't believe I'm doing this shit.
Like fuck pressure.
I mean, this is the reality of it happening right now.
It's better than any pressure.
It's stronger than any pressure
could be
I was J. Cole
as a label owner
right
and the reason I ask
is
he owns a label
but he's also an artist
right
and I think
maybe a couple years ago
maybe about 4 or 5 years ago
Cole would call me
and he would ask me
about the mixtape era
right
cause he was like
I got these artists
and I wanna break back
into that mixtape era
how did that happen like he's somebody that dives
into everything like he reminds me of somebody that always wants to research
because he wants to know everything that goes around so how was he as a label
owner when it comes to his artist I mean I think the the coolest thing is like
he's not like a label on he don't he don't ever act like a label owner or a
boss or nothing that's why we wanted to do business with him because it was
equal you know what i'm saying shout out to twitter because love saying hey yo call y'all boss
you know what i'm saying so it's like we we got into it because it was it was an equal partnership
and then secondly he approaches it from an artist standpoint he made this it's always make the most
honest music
to you
and then put it out
and it'll
you know what I'm saying
it'll connect
I mean that's
that's who he is
that's what he's done
that sets him apart
from a lot of people
and it's like
that's still the blueprint
for everybody
that he works with
you know what I'm saying
so it's never like
you ain't got no hit yet
you know what I'm saying
it's never like that
it's just
are you doing
the honest
the most honest music for you
and it's like
alright well then put that shit out see what it do do it again do it again
what's it like a dream of nowadays I've always felt like y'all don't really move
like a unit everybody can't do their own thing bro ain't gonna hold you there
are times where I will like this is a group chat but I was I was I know how
those times were always like I would see your daddy come up here and like damn why cole ain't doing the
yo goddy man we need to do this yo god he come up here with anybody he get he saw he just come
up here with him that does a lot though yeah it does it does it does he comes up here with all
his artists you don't see him he'd be outside but i believe it i believe it and i was being
so salute to them i respect that but at the same time you know what i'm saying move how they
move and i think, I think the,
the,
the honesty and the truth,
like he said,
behind Dreamville
is kind of what keeps us all united.
Like,
you know,
niggas ain't necessarily on the,
like,
smiling in your face bullshit.
Not with that shit.
We was just,
we was just,
we was just with Boss,
and he,
last week,
in the strip club,
you know what I'm saying,
for a nigga birthday.
Did y'all check in on,
um,
Ari Lennox at all? Yeah. I already my dog. Okay. Jen ain't lying. You know what I'm saying? For her nigga birthday. Do y'all check in on Ari Lennox at all?
Yeah.
I already my dog.
Okay.
I already my dog.
I love Ari to death.
That's why she said she was leaving social media.
She should.
A lot of people should.
Most of y'all should.
We all should.
We all should.
If we all did, it would hurt them so bad, the people that own that shit.
We don't have that type of unity.
But yeah, I feel with Ari, bro. When we first signed to Dreamville, Cole had us, Ari G, all in the house. We first was on Ari. I'm sorry sorry sign the dream deal
Like cold had us RG all in the house on some like making the band shit So we built like a real like who went for cheesecake
Like yeah, we didn't we didn't have to make the band
For nobody That's what we talking about. That was very confusing. You have to hold, put a gun to my face, bro.
You probably have to put a trigger.
But we just built like a sibling type relationship
with Ari and them during that time.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm always checking Ari.
And I hope she do,
you know what I'm saying?
I hope she actually get off social media.
Ari is fine.
I don't know why people try to be like,
how Ari doing?
Ari been sober for two years.
Ari is fine.
But I think it's because
for me as a fan watching her,
first of all, I feel like she doesn't get a lot of her just due.
That's number one.
Secondly, I feel like anything she does,
people always like attach to it.
Sometimes it's not the most positive.
And it's so not warranted because she minds her business.
Exactly.
But sometimes that gets to people.
Yeah.
And she seems very strong-minded, but it can get to people.
That's compassionate
so i we appreciate them questions and i think you know what i'm saying what you're saying really
matters though like as long as you be yourself it's not going to always you know what i'm saying
connect sometimes or people going to come at you people don't like people who are authentic you
know what i'm saying people super especially on social media because people yeah they hate that
they like this person got some social media like these fake ass reels like that should go the furthest so people gonna attack her because she's authentic because she's herself hate that. They like, this person got some mind. Think about what's rewarded them on social media, like these fake ass reels.
Like, that shit go the furthest.
So people gonna attack her because she's authentic,
because she's herself.
So that's why we saying, like,
it's good that you should get off social media,
because some people should not have to, like, be,
you know what I'm saying, like,
succumb to that all the time.
Just be yourself and let your stuff shine.
It's a lot of movie stars who not on social media.
I'm my favorite artist. You know what I'm saying?
And, like, they really, like, people who really, my favorite artist you know what I'm saying and like they really like
people who really really push
you know what I'm saying
like culture
like don't have social media
so it's like
it's not a necessity
and we think a lot of people
gotta understand that
because like you don't have
to put yourself out there
that much everyday
to appease people
you know what I'm saying
like you said about the reels
cause I hate them shit too
and they'll put them
in black and white
and put that spooky music
behind it
you know what I mean
put a river and you can say anything.
Anything, bro.
Anything, bro.
And it works because, you know what I'm saying?
It worked the same way McDonald's burgers work.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it ain't like, it ain't better for nobody.
But it's quick, it's fast, and it gets whatever
I need it in my mind done.
So it's like, all right, cool.
I'm going to keep eating that shit.
But like, imagine a nigga like Daniel Day-Lewis
on social media.
You know what I'm saying?
Like somebody who be like, who just up there. Imagine Disney and Washington on social media. It's just like imagine a nigga like Daniel Day-Lewis on social media you know what I'm saying like somebody who be like
imagine Dizzo Washington
on social media
it's just like bro
like
imagine him having to be fake
a nigga that you know
imagine that nigga
doing it real
imagine him real
Dizzo Washington
doing it real
like you know what
I don't want to see this
at all bro
then Zell could be fired
because all you gotta do
is tap into his character
he could be Malcolm X one day
Alonzo from training
he could play all his old
characters and go crazy but then after he do it 50 times you know what i
said then it's just like bro i just really want to just watch it with smith on social media next
thing you know he's slapping on stage bro he went he won he was he was a lot cooler to a lot of
people before that she had him but you know you do have some people who are really like 50 cent is
really himself no 50 cents funny is it all right like little do you know really himself no 50 cent funny is it all right like little do you know really himself it's a gift some people are really fired at it you know i'm saying some people probably shouldn't be
on it like it's really it's not for everybody i think that's what it i think a lot of people
say it's like social media is for everybody it's the new wave like you got to be on it to promote
you got to be on to do this like i mean then you just turn your back on all these other ways to
connect to people i do want to go back to something y'all talk about with Dreamville.
What's the point of doing Revenge of the Dreamer compilation?
Because I feel like that's the moment where Cole should be like, all right, we're going to make these radio runs.
We're going to do these shows together.
Like, that's the time.
You're putting everybody on this compilation album.
Now let's go push the whole label.
The fans will listen either way if that does happen.
Yeah, I about to say.
Because we be wanting it.
I would love to talk to Cole about that.
Yeah, I would too, shit.
You've never tried?
You're very vocal.
You've never tried to behave?
I got a lot of opinions.
I feel like I got so many opinions, I get pushed into the crazy new category sometimes
because I'm always with a new idea.
I'm like a fountain of ideas.
That's not a hard idea.
Hey, Cole,
when you gonna fuck with us?
Like, you know,
put us on some stages,
show up with us.
I mean, he took us on stages.
Do y'all want him to do that, though?
Y'all want him to do that?
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
At this point now,
I think we are very solid
in who we have.
Like, fan base-wise,
it's growing steadily.
It's core,
the core is strong.
We gonna sell our shows.
We gonna get merch.
We gonna get money.
So, like, you know what I'm saying? There merch. We're going to get money. So like that,
you know what I'm saying?
There's enough solidarity
within that to build that
and focus on that.
But at the same time,
I think it's bigger.
It's a bigger thing
when there's unity
and like a bunch of us,
you know what I'm saying,
coming together.
We went on tour with Cole,
you know what I'm saying,
what, two or three times.
That was really good for us,
you know what I'm saying?
We was on the,
in my opinion,
the best tour.
It was us,
YSL, Jaden Smith Cole that was a that was
like you can't make it better so that she was like a movie but like her
jenna's who took about that the other day he's talking about came in his room
was like yo how come there's no girls in your room ever he never had no I was in
there but we'll go we'll have out of batwoods we'll have out of weed I used That shit was true. And we used to be in each other's rooms. Our room was like the gas station,
because we would go, we would have all the Batwoods,
we would have all the weed.
I used to have somebody, you know what I'm saying,
usually tattin' and shit.
So while I was settling, come in our room,
they'll get tattin' and get Batwoods,
and then go to the next room, go see Jayden,
and he in there, you know what I'm saying,
doing 360s on the scooter.
But like, it was cool.
I thought you was going to say sound baths.
I don't know why.
Oh, no.
Jay knew what sound baths was.
Sound dynamic is hilarious. Very on break. I guess Olu would just be sitting back like, all right, I'm going to say soundbass. I don't know why. Oh, no. I know the J. Lewis soundbass. Sound dynamic is hilarious.
Very on break.
Because Olu would just be sitting back like,
all right, I'm going to shoot, but he already shot.
He's letting the chopper fly.
Do I really need to shoot?
I'm a sniper, man.
Now, Cole wasn't on the album.
Did y'all want Cole on the album, or did y'all do that specifically?
I ain't even thinking about it, bro.
I ain't even thinking about it, bro.
We just making music, bro. I ain't got time about it, bro. We just be making music, bro.
I ain't got time
to be thinking about
Fonique.
That's my mans,
you know what I'm saying?
So it's not like,
yo, we trying to do this.
Is anybody from Dreamville
I don't be trying to
hit him up for a play.
Yeah, I don't think so.
Is this the end of a trilogy?
Yeah, essentially, yeah.
I mean, it's the,
I would say it's the
The Earthgang versus the algorithm.
Yeah, I'm gonna say the bigger campaign is Earthgang versus the algorithm. Yeah, I'm going to say the bigger campaign is Earthgang versus the algorithm.
So this project, I was just a little confused because some of the records I'm already familiar with and then some of them I weren't.
So this project is like, like both of them combined?
Yeah, this project, I mean, what we wanted to do with this project and everything else on Earthgang versus the algorithm is like, man, just dump all that on his head.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, even that's why we're releasing on Tuesday.
We dump, we're breaking the rules.
So we putting new music with our EPs
that we know our fan base love.
And we just putting it all together
because it's like, why?
Like, why try to limit how people receive this?
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, just enjoy it.
Enjoy it.
So like, we got a lot of good stuff
on this new project that we just delivering to people
Tuesday used to be the day
it was the day
it was the day
Robophobia
tell us why we should be afraid
we shouldn't I don't think we should
I think we brought up the concept of Robophobia
one because we wanted to be
just documented as saying the term before it got
everywhere but even outside of that you know what I'm saying?
It's really just to kind of call in the question, like, what do we care about?
Do we care?
Is there an impending doom?
Or is it like a mesh that we're going to all have to just be a part of?
If you don't prepare, you should be afraid.
I ain't going to say you shouldn't be afraid if you don't prepare because they will steal your jobs.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's serious out there for real. so just be prepared be understand how to use ai
understand how to use the technology i mean if you smart it's gonna cut all this hours of stuff
away that you're trying to do when you can have more time to enjoy life i just don't want us to
get away from using our brains because the brain is still the most powerful computer. Always. Always. That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Wow.
I'm with the robot revolution, man.
I think we should,
I think a lot of the sex workers
should be robots.
Like, we should go ahead
and just nip that in the bud.
Let's just go ahead
and get a whole fleet of that.
Put you in.
So they start thinking
for theyself
and they be me-tune niggas
in 20 years.
I wasn't comfortable with that.
You were built for that.
I'm telling you.
I'm trying to tell you.
Yeah, it is.
Talk to us about Red Flag.
Oh, Red Flag, man.
So initially,
Red Flag was made,
when we first made that song,
it was right when
Britney Spears had got
let off her
conservatorship.
So the song was called Britney Spears at first.
It's even a couple of shouts out to her in the song,
like when I was like, hit me baby one more time and shit like that.
So it was all like, even though I know you think I'm crazy,
that's a line that was like, I said it like that.
People just think she crazy.
They don't even really know her, you know what I'm saying?
But then it kind of just evolved into like the whole conversation
that we all having right now about dating, you know what I'm saying?
What is a red flag? What the green flag what matters what don't
matter why we talking about body counts the bank account so much we should be
talking about your relationship with your motherfucking mother bro like or are
you aware of these red flags and are you trying to change them like are you
enjoying life in the process I think I mean I'm curious why you pointed that
one out because we love that song that was made life in the process i think i mean i'm curious why you pointed that one out because you like that song i love it yeah because i because we love that song that was
made early in the project we throw that on there because we really loved it but um like we're
saying it's really prophetic because we were talking about this in 2021 and now 2024 you're
seeing people talk about attachment theory and all this and all that and folks really happen to like
look in the mirror and being like damn am i the problem you know what i'm saying like but i think it's important that we talk about it and also like just enjoy life through the
process because i feel like a lot of everybody got got red flags people been in relationships for 10
15 years happily married still red flags that you just these some these are the things that we just
going to continue to work on as we're in partnership whether it's romantic partnership
or just regular partnership,
you know what I'm saying?
It is what it is.
If you love somebody...
They talk about
them platonic red flags,
but y'all need to be
actually just good-ass
friends with niggas
that you know
be doing fuck that shit.
Mm-hmm.
And that, I mean,
that friendship stuff,
the stuff that you align
friendship seeps into
your romantic relationships,
too, you know what I'm saying?
All the stuff that you, like...
A lot of people jump
straight into romantic
relationships,
and you should, like,
look around your friendships
and be like, why are you friends with this person does this is what
works this is why y'all y'all solid then like be solid with your romantic partner partner that way
too a lot of people just be like it's romantic relationships so it's supposed to be completely
different you know what i'm saying it's supposed to be a disney movie like all these other rules
that i gotta use to keep these other relationships in my life solid don't apply to this one this is
different and it's like it is but it's not but it's the same foundation though you know everything
y'all saying is so true I always wonder why do guys have more loyalty to they do than the woman
that they go home with like they're dead now that barber shit is different and everything. The barber is your therapist. You got to slow down. The barber know too much.
You know what I'm saying?
We're all still working through that.
You got to slow down.
Slow down.
And what y'all said earlier about,
you said the bank account,
people sitting around talking about their bank account.
They're doing that because they're distracting themselves from actually dealing with the work.
With the person.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
With Finn.
And I think COVID made everybody have to sit still
and look in that mirror for the first time.
And if you ain't never did no work on yourself,
no therapy or nothing
niggas went crazy
that shit hit like
a ton of bricks
niggas lost it
niggas lost their minds
and they sitting
in the same room too
or they in the room
with somebody
who they don't like
you know what I'm saying
and they sleeping
next to somebody
they don't like
and they're like
you know what
I don't fuck with you
like that
you know what I'm saying
so it's like
you write a lot of things
and I think
even us writing that song
during that period and all of these people now are confident like a lot of things and I think even us writing that song during that period
and all of these people
now are kind of like,
a lot of people
is just like breaking up
with all those relationships
that people felt like
during the pandemic,
during COVID,
folks had to get together
for survival.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like,
this might not be-
We thought we did.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Nigga thought it was.
It was like the first seven months.
But y'all was in Atlanta?
Yeah.
And y'all still felt like that?
Everybody felt like that.
I mean,
that ain't different. It was different. Who was outside for the same time?
I mean, they're a different.
Yeah, y'all was.
Who was outside for the show?
But even still.
But like around the world.
So the pandemic relationship I got in during the pandemic was because it was with some
girls that had moved to Atlanta because they needed somewhere to dance.
So I'm like, all right, cool.
Well, you know the strip club open here.
Come on down.
Next thing I know, we talking.
Now it's like, oh, what do you think?
I know, that's right.
I wasn't trying to save a life. I'm just telling them where they can go get some work at. But I'm like, bro, we talking. Now it's like, oh, what do you think? I know that's right. I wasn't trying to save a life.
I'm just telling them where they can go get some work at.
But I'm like, bro, but shit, since we here all the time, we can kick it.
We end up getting a connection.
And I'm like, now I'm connected with a bitch that I don't really like.
That you don't really like.
You don't really rock with.
I don't know.
Hey.
I don't know.
Is this the first time she's hearing that you didn't really like her?
No, no.
We had this conversation.
We had this conversation. We've been broke up. It was was a long time ago do you think we got real community nowadays
uh hey man not to be that nigga but a lot of community died once niggas start going to church
i'm a nigga that don't go to church so i'm part of the problem but a lot of community died when
niggas got online got on the internet you know what i'm saying like i feel like community
is built by like people who like really see you and and validate you. I feel like y'all got
community in here. We got
community here with our people right here.
But online,
that shit fake.
People can validate you one day and then the next day
they can throw tomatoes at you because you say
something that they don't care about. That shit fake.
Real community is people who
gonna uphold you when you falling down
and all this stuff.
So, like, it's possible.
But, like, when you try to jump straight to the shortcut, you know what I'm saying?
That's when you got 230,000 followers, but you lonely as hell.
So, you don't have real community.
What you mean by community die when people start going to church?
You know, there was a, like he said, there was a physical place to know and relate to people, to fellowship.
All that shit was important.
You know what I'm saying?
That's where, for our people, that's where we came up with a lot of the stuff for the
civil rights movement.
Oh, you said people stopped going to church.
Yeah, we stopped going.
I thought you said people started going to church.
No, no, no, no.
Stop it.
No, no, no.
Like I said, I don't go to church.
I'm part of the problem.
But when niggas used to go to church, like when I look back on older generations, my
auntie and them, my auntie them my mom them
the people that they love
and the people that
helped them through
hard shit
like when my
when my dad got in
the car and said
he couldn't walk
for a long time
the people that came
around was the people
that they met
at these physical places
if I go through
some shit
if I
God forbid
something happened to me
I tweet about it
and these gonna be like
L
you know what I'm saying
these gonna say
some like lame shit
like
nobody gonna come to help
speaking of community
what were you trying to do
with Kamala's voice
like what was the
tweet about
oh I was just gonna
I just wanted to
yo
hell say yo
I was
so I heard
I heard the little thing
I seen everybody tweeting
like damn Kamala sounds
so good on the phone
I was like damn
we should probably use
that for our album
I just
I just needed the AI voice I was just going you know what i'm saying send some
voice notes out like yeah get that yeah that's actually yeah y'all got snoop on the record on
purpose yeah which was y'all going for like a sensual seduction type thing no not with that
song okay um snoop just vibe with the record bro like i said that was another pandemic record we
made that one like when we was just sitting around the crib.
My homie came through with an old school sounding beat.
So I tried to make something appropriate for the beat.
And then when Snoop heard it, he actually dog walked us crazy on that song.
Because he...
Yeah, but that's what we wanted, though.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I said, this whole project is a tribute to that period of the early 2000s
when we was looking at all these folks like legends.
You know what I'm saying?
Even the cover and the packaging
is all based on Toonami and shit like that.
For us, that would be like a day coming home from school.
You watch a little Toonami,
you bump some Snoop,
you bump some Pharrell.
You know what I'm saying?
You go outside Hoop for a little while.
Your mama tell you to come in,
you do your homework.
You know what I'm saying?
That's life.
But we wanted to attribute to that time now.
Love Below as well?
Yeah.
I feel like it was just so, even, music was just so diverse then.
It was so diverse.
It was so diverse.
It was worth stealing.
So shout out to Parish.
Yeah, you got Love Below.
You got Usher.
You know what I'm saying?
You got franchise boys and shit.
All this shit happening in Atlanta at once.
Then you go watch, they say, you go home and watch 290 and shit.
You might flip the MTV.
You see Pharrell and stuff.
You're like, oh, man, this shit. What can I not flip the MTV, see Pharrell and stuff. He's like,
oh man,
this shit,
what can I not do?
Okay,
it makes sense to me now.
What makes sense?
When I texted Nala early,
I was like,
ma'am,
they not rapping
like I want them
to be rapping.
I knew a lot of people
was going to say that too.
I was like,
I like to hear y'all rap
and I was like,
okay,
but now it makes sense.
Yeah,
some more raps is coming.
Yeah,
they on their way.
And I'm listening to the music
and I was saying the same thing.
I'm like,
that sound like an old Neptune beat. It's a time period. But it makes sense coming. We not, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, they on their way. And then I'm listening to the music and I was staying in the same thing. I'm like, that sound like
an old Neptune beat.
It's a time period.
But it makes sense now.
We paying tribute
to an era.
Okay, okay.
With records like The Wake,
it sounds like
a stream of consciousness.
Is that what it is
that ends with
damn, she's thick?
Like, what's the
parallel between that?
That was supposed
to be a funeral.
Yeah.
The Wake.
Oh, for God's sake.
I mean, the wait.
I mean, it's funny enough.
Well, not funny enough.
But the wait kind of like came about where like in our lives,
we had like the past couple of years,
we had some real motherfuckers die in our lives.
You know what I'm saying?
Like while we on the road, while we comb and shit.
Like our people.
You know what I'm saying?
And like, I don't know.
Sometimes when you just on the go like that, you don't get a chance to like grieve you don't get a chance
to even like let it be a part of the process so like we on the road we doing this and doing that
and like you say it just happened it was a sound check you know i'm saying i just recorded it
whatever and then you know i'm saying he he put his spin on it when on the porn part at the end
but like i don't know sometimes when shit happens you just trying to make sense of it
you can't
you can't put it into
a frame
you know what I'm saying
you just like
nigga this is what it is
that damn she thick part
was one of my comedian homies
he was supposed to be
playing like a nigga
that's at
at your funeral
and that's what niggas be on
they be looking at you
he like damn
that's his girl
damn she thick
so like
even when you die
nigga's gonna be looking
at your girl
at the funeral
you know what I'm saying that was just to show that's his girl? Damn, she thick. So even when you die, a nigga's going to be looking at your girl at the funeral.
You know what I'm saying?
The show that is.
That was just the show that is. That's what it is.
What was it like filming Die Today?
I hated Die Today, filming it.
I hated it.
It was traumatic.
I didn't want to get in that coffin.
I had a panic attack.
It was awful.
Why'd you do it then?
Because I'm a team player, Charlemagne.
I'm a team player, and that I'm a team player and that's that's my fatal flaw and my
victory yeah you know I was always taught you you turn out to be what you pretend to be so I don't
even I can't even play like that to be honest with you bro let's see I don't play with crutches I
don't play with wheelchairs so I'm in there they like close the casket all the way please for the
shot I'm like I'm doing this both hands the whole time like nah it ain't gonna get closed the light
of God is gonna come in this motherfucker but at the same time time Like nah It ain't gonna get closed The light of God Is gonna come in this motherfucker
But at the same time
I was terrified
I ain't gonna hold you
Was there like
A particular passing
That inspired
Just the record in general
Um
Yeah
Um
One of my friends
She uh
Committed suicide
She was young too
She was
One quiet
Quiet girl
You know what I'm saying
And then
His cousin passed last year
You know what I'm saying
He also took his own life You know what I'm saying So it's like These young people You know what i'm saying and then his cousin passed last year you know what i'm saying he also took his own life you know what i'm saying so it's like these young young people
you know what i'm saying people got their life ahead of them and like bright people you know
what i'm saying so it's like i don't know it just kind of guts you sometimes you know what i'm
saying when you're just like damn shot i didn't know you were going through that you know what
i'm saying you're like one of the quiet type you get your grades your grades is excelling you're
excelling in this excelling in that you don't really talk about nothing and then when somebody says you don't you you feel like you
could have done more too yeah like that was the hardest thing for me still the hardest thing for
me every day i think like damn bro if i would have just you know what i'm saying did xyz maybe i
could have had xyz to make you see that you didn't have to do this you know what i'm saying i thought
i was helping the whole time all those things like you get you get so much self-guilt and it's like
yo i just gotta i got you gotta got to process it through what you do.
Process it through the music.
Sometimes people don't even got to die, for real, for real, though.
Sometimes people just leave your life, and you're like, we're not aligned on the same path no more.
It's like, I love you so much.
You know what I'm saying?
I wish you the best, and I want you to still blossom.
But you kind of dead to me, low-key, you know what I'm saying?
Because of something that you did,
because of something I did, whatever.
A lot of love still there,
but like the connection is gone.
So like sometimes we be grieving people
who still alive too, but.
We'll call it.
You know how many people I done lost that didn't die?
Exactly, bro.
They dead.
You know what I mean?
They dead.
But you know, I had a friend who committed suicide
in 2020 during COVID.
I remember you, I remember you posting about her.
She was a writer to a writer.
And she made me look at suicide different because she was so strategic and she was a
person who was like so meticulous with everything that she did.
So in my mind, like she just knew when she was ready to go.
And even if you look at like her social media leading up to it, she was posting things like,
I wonder what my next life going to be like.
She was like, COVID taught me that I would have jumped off the slave ship
long before we got here.
So she knew.
And so it kind of just makes me look at people like that different.
Maybe some people just know what they want to ask you.
Nah, it's crazy you say that because, I mean, you know,
with different religions and stuff, you know,
suicide is a sin and this, that.
But with some people, I mean, niggas who believe in reincarnation it's
like hey bro like this one ain't for me bro like i'm do this shit over bro like straight up and i
just had to start over how i gotta start over but it's like some people be in deep suffering
you know i'm saying and like if that's your choice that's your choice we could help you if you won't
help but if that's your choice that's your choice that's right i'm not encouraging suicide not
encouraging it at all but like you can get help.
You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the thing.
Like you can get help.
That's right.
Well, to pick up the vibe,
you guys did a project with the Snake Gang Project.
Yeah, finally some good shit.
That's wild.
That's wild.
Y'all about to make me cry and shit.
Like, fuck this whole place.
You know what I mean?
That was a very vibey,
very Malibu.
Shout out,
no,
yeah.
We did that in Atlanta also.
We did that in the A.
We did that in the A.
So they came,
they from the UK,
but they live in LA.
They came today.
And I love Snake Hips,
man.
So shout out to Snake Hips.
Gotta put that out there.
They one of the best
electronic groups
that we have in existence
right now.
If you ever go to
a Snake Hip show, you won't regret it. But it was an honor to do some music with them and we're
gonna do some more with them man you guys really be pushing the sound because you brought them to
atlanta is kind of nuts yeah we bring everybody bro yeah you're gonna come to the west side too
you ain't finna just be up in buckhead bush and you're gonna see where we be at talk about y'all
did a whole album with snake hips we did an did an EP. I must have missed that one.
It's really good.
When you turn on the way home,
you're gonna vibe with it.
It's like some music music.
It's like some like,
boom.
You know what I'm saying?
Some of that shit.
I gotta listen to that.
They got one of my favorite songs ever.
Bounce is the best one.
Snake Ibs.
All My Friends Are Wasted.
Yeah.
That's the vibe.
I love that song.
What?
I just didn't know you had it in you.
What, Snake Ibs? When I used didn't know you had it in you. What, Snakehead?
When I used to be in L.A. on drugs.
Yeah.
Let's talk about L.A. and drugs, yeah.
I don't got nothing.
Go ahead.
I thought you were about to ask another question.
So I want to ask y'all some hip-hop shit, right?
Yeah.
It's been a good year for hip hop, right?
Yes.
How did y'all feel when Cole apologized?
Surprised.
Man, I was asleep.
Yeah, he was asleep.
Man, he was right there.
He was back there.
I was knocked out.
I was knocked out.
I was back there, he was asleep.
I had did the show and then I had left.
You left.
I left, I went to bed, I woke up,
nigga would call me, text me and stuff about this shit.
But I mean, bro, I know that nigga. You know what I'm saying?
So like a lot of niggas don't know him.
So they create their own opinions of why he did this and why that.
Like I know this nigga.
This nigga do whatever the hell he want to do.
That is true.
And that's one thing I love about him.
And if he ever feel like he did something out of somebody else's projection or whatever,
like, you know what I'm saying, peer pressure and all that, like that nigga going to take
a step and he going to be like, you know what?
That ain't what I'm trying to do because I I'm gonna do whatever the hell I want to do.
So I was like, yeah, that's that nigga.
99% free will.
Like, so like if that, in that one little percent that everybody's grabbing on,
that's a one time with that nigga.
Like, you know what?
This ain't me, y'all.
And then I respect that shit.
You know what I'm saying?
I respect a nigga who be like, you know, I wasn't feeling that shit.
Especially you do that shit in front of hundreds of thousands of people.
Who else going to do that shit? I'm about to say, it took a of people who else going to do that i'm about to say it's not that big
be on that tight time and then we like i said we i was backstage when it happened and the only
first thing i could think was like damn i got to beat this traffic because is going to leave
and i saw i got them i left immediately bro i gotta go this you've been getting for the fireworks
we got we're here i didn't see the fireworks none of the rest of y'all as soon as he said that y'all like oh wow
you could feel like a mmmm over the whole crowd
but also it was surprising
it wasn't bro we weren't telling him
to do it not that he was listening to us anyway
and he wasn't telling us about it
he just went up there and I think he had like a real moment with himself
and was like and also you know
schoolboy was at Dreamville Fest you know what I'm saying like
we all know each other if it wasn't for
TDE we wouldn't even be on Dreamville so like they they taught me them through
the law for us to even meet Cole so yeah we went on tour with TDE that's our
first tour with Ab-Soul. It was Ab-Soul tour but like Isaiah was on that tour for a little while
Sizzle was on like it was all like Kendrick and Q had already kind of blown
a little bit Ab-Soul was going with these days was a really good project
and we was we was opening so early like motherfuckers was
like just walking in but in that time like we cold came to one of the shows
actually show we did up here and he would come early as fuck to see who was
opening and top was like yo you know saying all the pieces kind of align is
like oh yeah these niggas over first we like them and that's the only way yeah
we don't dream view yeah when he apologized I didn't have a problem with it cuz yeah when he said he was protecting his peace and he
said he hadn't had a even sleeping good for 10 years but now he wasn't I was like oh I'm saying
and that when a nigga do something you don't want to do you know Santa we're doing something to do
I'm gonna say I wouldn't have done that but I just like
keeping up shit
it's just fun
I also can detach
you know what I'm saying
I think Kobe really like
internally
every move
is an internal move
so let's go back
to a second
so when he first
when he did the
seven minute drill
did y'all think
to yourself
damn we're going to have to
it's going to be us
against TD
did y'all think
I was going to jump in
I could detach
that wasn't my beef, bro.
They not even the same class as us, you know what I'm saying?
That's like when some seniors get to fight
and the freshmen just walk past.
I ain't finna jump in, you know what I'm saying?
I'm going to my locker.
Get my books on the next line.
I'm like, watch a little bit.
I'm gonna put this on the next line.
Yeah, he's like, oh, this shit crazy.
This shit crazy, bro.
You see?
So when he did the new record,
what'd y'all think of the new record?
Just on some hip-hop shit.
I ain't listen to it,
I'm gonna be honest.
Man, if you don't cut it out.
I just ain't got around to it.
There's a lot of good music.
Like you said,
it's a great year for hip-hop.
There's a lot of good shit.
There's a lot of good shit
you can get around to.
I haven't got around to it yet, bro.
I'm not gonna lie.
Yeah, I can't.
I listened to it once.
I can't hear it either.
You want me to play it for you? I can't really give you a real, I listened to it one time. You know what I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, I listen to it once. I can't really give you a real...
I listen to it one time.
I didn't like that.
It's okay if you're just tired of listening
to music from him right now.
I literally listen to it one time, so I can't really say what I like.
I like it sonically.
I just didn't like what he was saying in it.
I don't want to hear about how deadly your pen is now.
Oh, that's what you're talking about?
Yeah, and people think he ducking, but I don't want to hear that.
Like, you had your moment, Cole.
Like, let's move on.
Yeah, I mean, I think if I was him, I would just put a whole different song out,
like some whole other shit.
Why are we talking about this at all?
But honestly, I haven't heard the song, though.
I ain't going to say.
What?
He's right, though.
Man, I can't stand him.
He's absolutely right.
What do you feel, Nala?
I feel like everybody should just take a break from listening to them.
I've personally been taking a break.
From listening to who?
Cole?
Cole, Drake, and Kendrick.
I'm just tired.
She said I'm done.
She said I'm done with all of it.
I mean, I don't know, bro.
I'm a fan of them.
I like them.
Y'all follow each other on Instagram?
I'm giving Kendrick all my Instagram.
Who?
You, J. Cole?
I don't know.
Do Cole follow?
I have no idea.
I think that's because the song was posted on there. I'm just really trying. Oh,. Cole? I don't know. Do Cole follow? I have no idea. Because the song was posted on there.
I'm just really trying.
Oh, nah.
I also don't be on IG.
A nigga who I could call at any time.
I don't like following him on IG anyway.
I'm just trying to figure out how y'all just didn't hear it at all.
I'm dead air, bro.
My closest niggas, I'm not trying to follow y'all.
I got in here to play, but it's five minutes.
I don't think we got five minutes.
The thing with Cole, which I always said, was people doubted him for so long.
And I felt like in the last couple of years, he'd been doing records with people.
He'd been spitting.
People were giving him the respect that i felt he deserved
and i felt like that incident kind of just people just turned back and put it back back
that still cash bro
didn't catch that until the last couple of years like oh he's spending other people i feel on other people's beats. I feel like a lot of people who didn't fuck with him
didn't catch that.
A nigga who been listening to that nigga since 2006,
there ain't no debate.
You know what I'm saying?
If you go to a J. Cole concert,
them niggas be crying, bro.
Like, it's not like, you know what I'm saying?
It's not like, you know what I'm saying?
So it's just all mosh pit.
A place that you will pay to shed tears,
that's a different type of thing.
We went on tour and thug and i'm like
them was like yo how the is this doing this bro like they used to be coming out because
like you know be sleeping on cold they can sleep on people who not who they like propped up
the thing but like used to be coming out on his set like bro what the he's going on
this man is controlling tens of thousands of people right now.
He's like a wizard, bro.
With a flick of his hand.
So it's like, who cares?
You see this?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you must be looking at something else.
You should come see this.
Like, this is where it's at.
This is what it is.
Well, let's get into a joint.
Oh, you got a comic book series coming too, right?
I heard.
Oh, yeah.
We were working on this comic book series.
I don't know how much I can say.
I don't know what kind of-
I mean, we working.
We just-
Yeah, I'm going to say, we just IP boys at this point, bro.
We create, yeah.
We create.
We write scripts.
We've been taking auditions.
We like, nigga, let's just do stuff, bro.
We got.
Let's just do everything.
Like I say, we really tapped into our inner children over the pandemic and everything
I ever dreamed of doing, I'm going for it.
Yeah.
That's for sure.
Everything nigga ever wanted to do.
Yeah. I always like comic books. I'm making them. I always like movies. I'm going for it. Yeah. That's for sure. Everything they ever wanted to do. Yeah.
I always like comic books.
I'm making them.
I always like movies.
I'm writing them.
You like movies and you like comic books.
Yeah.
Oh, so y'all don't got like a studio y'all working with, with the comic book?
We trying to figure it out.
We flirting around.
We flirting.
We like flirting.
We got like two teams that's like kind of simultaneously building different IPs.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
But let's get into it, Joyn Up The Album.
What y'all want to hear? Let's play that Love You More. you more let's do it you gotta no that was you want to hear that you
want to help we're going to play that single i want to see you right now you got it he did it
was it was it wasn't that just right when we first got there chad was in there the reason the song
they was together when y'all was before. This was before they was beefing. 2022, we was all there together.
Chad was getting the B12 shots with us.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
So when Pharrell got on the boat,
did Chad get on it with him?
He did not.
He stayed with us.
He stayed with us.
Right on the boat.
He got on the boat.
He had it beat started.
Nigga ain't let my bum on the boat.
Chad stayed and played.
No, Chad played like hella instruments.
You know what I'm saying?
Pharrell is like a great idea guy.
He puts a lot of drums down
a lot of soundscapes
but Chad gonna play
the intricacies
so Chad stayed
to do the intricacies
we thought that's
what their dynamic was
Pharrell gets on boats
Chad you know what I'm saying
stayed and played the guitar
and
you think that separate
it was cooking up
the whole time
y'all just didn't know
probably
I mean me and him
had a little tension
at that time
I think it was like
just tension
just across the board
before we get to y'all fighting
so he took Chad off the record yeah yeah just took and y'all like and
just walked off and went on the boat well he didn't not in that order the song the song we
had a song for years with both of them on it and then really within the the last couple months of
clearing everything uh it became featuring pharrell and now that's it that took a couple steps to get
to that process too because it was produced by
Pharrell then be his voice on so I guess he changed the featuring for it
Then he dropped the Lego movie and then he stood on that. It's like okay
Well, yeah, cuz I'm actually tip right now. I think Chad is actually suing Pharrell
He probably didn't want it to be featuring Neptune. Yeah
Questions when stuff like that change you just be like, okay, that's not my business
Yeah, I'm not saying you can ask no questions.
If I can ask a nigga directly, I'm gonna ask,
but I'm not gonna ask your people to ask your people.
Nah, if I sit down in front of you and talk about it.
We chilling and talking,
we drinking Ferrell's tequila with B12 shots,
yeah, I'm gonna ask you, that's pretty vulnerable.
So did they take the instruments off too, that?
I'm pretty sure they interpolated them differently.
I'm pretty sure they wasn't the same instrument.
It wasn't the same.
It wasn't the same.
Yeah, because the version of the song that I play on my phone, I love.
I'm going to leave that there.
This version was changed up a little bit for the clearances.
Yeah.
Now you also say you... So you say y'all had beef.
So is that where the solo project started to come in?
Is that when y'all first started?
No.
I think when I say there was tension, I say this is what happened when we was in that
Pharrell session. I had did something, and this nigga. I think, when I say there was tension, I say, this is what happened when we was in that Pharrell session.
I had did something
and this nigga had said something
and I had just had enough,
right?
So I'm like,
What'd you say?
What'd he say?
I came in with what you said,
but I just know,
whatever he said,
I was like,
you never like my ideas.
You were the ass nigga.
And then Pharrell was like,
Pharrell looked at us like,
ooh.
We did it in front of Pharrell,
so that was a little embarrassing,
but also,
this is my dog,
this is my brother,
you know what I'm saying?
We gonna, this is what happened. I mean my brother. You know what I'm saying?
I mean, shit, bro. I should be able to say what I feel to my brother and to my family.
You know what I'm saying?
And they can take it how they take it.
Yeah, and that's how I took it.
I was like, nigga, you'll never be fucking with the shit I do, nigga.
Like, well, I ain't listening to you.
That's how I said it.
I'm like, I'm not even listening to you.
And Pharrell took that as like, oh, he must like.
And then also the whole time, them niggas was like working together, but not really
talking even in the same room
So I was like
You can just see like
This is a hell of a room
Yeah but I mean
That's art bro
Like that's the destiny
Like I don't have no problem
With none of that shit
I don't know
Shit ain't always peachy
When you're dealing with like
Real
Especially when it's creativity bro
You know what I'm saying
Everybody got their
Ego into it
To a certain extent
Ego but also soul bro
Like you burying your soul
I mean but that's it
Ain't nothing wrong
But ain't nothing wrong with ego, though,
because it's a part of it.
If you don't got no ego,
then you're not going
to have no bravado either.
You know what I'm saying?
What's the longest
y'all went without speaking?
I don't know.
I don't keep track of that.
I don't know.
That's a great question, though.
Long time, short.
If y'all be for y'all,
fix it immediately.
We know too many people
who know us.
We know too many people
in common, bro.
Like, we literally grew up
in the same area, bro.
This nigga auntie,
like my sister, you know what I'm saying? Like, we grew up in the same area like my sister you know what
i'm saying i don't remember meeting her there's too many connections outside of us that we're
always be boys you know what i'm saying so it's like yeah you might have creative differences but
in the day like nigga one thing we know we represent not only just for us but like for
our part of atlanta for the southwest side of atlanta bro we mean a lot bro it's only a few
niggas that's like from where we from that have been all over the world like we have
so like and we i don't even know if any of them have been to like some of the places we've been
so that matters and we got it and that's it i also think like in the creative process whatever it is
and whatever business it is like you're gonna be able to you're gonna have you should you should
be able to say like i agree with this so i think this could be this way i think that could be that
way you know what i'm saying that's with anything any type of partnership you should be able to say, like, I agree with this, or I think this could be this way, I think that could be that way.
You know what I'm saying?
That's with anything,
any type of partnership,
you should be able to say,
oh, this shit hard.
What about this?
You know what I'm saying?
And if a nigga don't fuck
with that shit that day,
that's how they feel.
You should be able to say that too.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I done been there
plenty of times
where that nigga know me.
Sometimes I stand on beat
and I be like, man,
nah, this what I wanted to say.
All right.
So are the solo projects coming?
Hell yeah. Yeah, like, I feel like even in that time period, it wasn't like, this what i wanted to say all right so are the solo projects coming hell yeah yeah like i feel
like even in that time period it wasn't it wasn't like like he said attention there wasn't no tension
just needed more room to spread wings you know what i'm saying like that's really what it was
like it wasn't it wasn't no bigger than that it's like they've been making music for 10 years at
that point and it's like if we share if you got two artists drawing and y'all both drawing on the
same paper it's like yeah cool for a little while and y'all both drawing on the same paper. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nigga need more space, bro.
Give me a bill.
I still love and respect what you're doing.
You know what I'm saying?
Also, too, I think what y'all are explaining is, man, men got to learn how to communicate.
You got to learn how to express our feelings to each other.
Anger, sadness, frustration, whatever it is.
And it shouldn't lead to no violence
shouldn't lead to
I don't fuck with you
no more
I be saying that
I be saying that shit
to my sisters and shit
I be like man
niggas gonna get this shit
right at the end of the day
like sometimes
y'all be falling out
for real
and y'all could've just
talked about that shit
but like with my niggas
it's like man
at the end of the day
we gonna figure this shit out
we gonna get back
to business
cause like
the goal is the solution
it's not just to hate a nigga
yeah it's like man
it's shit
if niggas fall out
then you know like man
them niggas
them niggas probably
get the beef
and them niggas
probably gonna fight
next time they see each other
but if it's just something
that y'all can talk about
or something that's like
man I don't wanna talk
about it right now
but we can talk about it
in a minute
like yeah that's my man
like we gonna figure
this shit out
alright well there you have it
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