The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Elliott Connie Reveals The Right Questions To Ask Yourself To Achieve Your Best Personal Success

Episode Date: November 18, 2024

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Elliott Connie And He Reveals The Right Questions To Ask Yourself To Achieve Your Best Personal Success. Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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How are you, sir? I'm doing great. I'm doing very well. Thank you. Man, it's good to see you. You got a new book out now, Change Your Questions, Change Your Future, Overcoming Challenges and Creating a New Vision for Your Life Using the Principles of Solution-Focused Brief Therapy. Facts.

What a title. Yes, Jess, what a title. So what does all that mean? You know, it means I've been a practicing psychotherapist for, I don't know, nearly 20 years. And it's been an amazing ride to like watch people heal and overcome like some things that you wouldn't imagine people get healed and overcome and as I sat there on that 20

year journey sitting there front row and watching people grow I started thinking like what's the commonality like how how do people do this? How do people change and how do people overcome challenges? And people who are successful and people who are able to achieve things in spite of obstacles have a tendency to ask themselves different kinds of questions. So I decided to write a book about it. Like I've written several books

but most of them are for professionals. But I decided I wanted to write a book about change and about how people talk to themselves and about how Successful people have a tendency to ask themselves different kinds of questions that lead to their success and when I say success I don't mean like millionaires, but I just mean people that achieve whatever their aim is if it's overcoming addiction or Becoming successful business person whatever it is success is defined by people who set a goal and achieve it. So what is it that makes some people succeed and other people not? And after all these years of practice, they talk to themselves differently and they ask themselves different kind of questions.

What's the most common question that successful people ask themselves? Oh boy, that's a good one. The most common question that successful people ask themselves is, what do I want? Most people do not ask themselves is what do I want? Most people do not ask themselves what do I want. Most people spend a lot of time thinking about what they don't want and try to avoid it. People who achieve aims and goals are the ones who are able to set a goal and ask themselves

what is it that I want about this goal? And once you do that, you become capable of achieving it. I tell all the youngins that you gotta find that one thing that you want to do. And when you find that one you become capable of achieving it. I tell all the youngins that you gotta find that one thing that you want to do. And when you find that one thing that you want to do and you focus on that, everything else falls in place. I understand, I mean I tell people all the time,

you don't get into a taxi cab and the cab driver doesn't ask you where do you not wanna be. Like if the cab driver asks you where do you not wanna be, that doesn't give that cab driver any information, the cab driver asks you the single most important question ever, where are you going? And then you answer that question. You would never say, I just want to be not here. You know what I mean? I just don't want to be in the Bronx.

You don't ever say that. Cab driver says, where are you headed? You don't say like not here. Like that's just not what, that doesn't help. But think about that. Like most people say like, I just don't want But think about that, most people say, I just don't wanna feel like this, or I don't like this job, or what job do you want? I don't know, just not this one. That's not good enough. You have to really identify what's that thing

I want to achieve, and what's that place I wanna be, and who do I wanna be in order to become that? Man, that's so real. And that's why we have these conversations about manifestation. You can't just say, I want to be successful. No. What's the goal, what's so real. And that's why we have these conversations about manifestation. You can't just say I want to be successful. No. Like, what's the goal?

What's the destination? What you trying to do? That's right. That's absolutely right. You gotta think of the world is like an algorithm that wants to give you what you want, but it will only reward the people bold enough to ask for it and ask for it in great detail.

And when you have like really granular detailed goals, you're just significantly more likely to achieve it. And here's an example. When I was in high school, my obsession was to go to college and play baseball. Like that was my obsession. I knew that college was my ticket out of the situation I was in

and I wanted to go to college and play baseball. So I remember one day, I was a freshman, and I'm walking to school, and a couple of my boys came running up to me, and they were like, yo, yo, yo, we just found so-and-so's dad's alcohol, we're gonna skip school. I was like, no,

because future baseball players in college don't skip school and drink, so I did not do it. And it's like that, like when you have this thing in your head, there's like a guard rail that keeps you on the way to getting those things. And just most people don't, they don't ask themselves. They say, I wanna be successful, I wanna be famous, I wanna be a YouTube star, whatever they say,

but like, talking about what, or doing what, or impacting who, like you have to be really specific. So I was gonna ask, when you do have to be that specific, right, that means you have to do a lot of work on yourself because like Charlamagne said, most people, I don't think, realize what they want. They want to be rich or they want to be, have a lot of money. They want a big home. They want a nice car. So that requires the work.

And I think a lot of people don't necessarily know what they want to do. Like if you ever ask a high school student or a college student or somebody that graduated college, what do you want to do? And usually it's, I want to make money. It's literally my job. Yeah, you're right. I ask these people all the time.

They all say, I want to make money. I want to be famous. I want to be an influencer. I want a podcast. I want a podcast. What? I want to be a rapper. Nah, I'm just kidding.

I don't know about that one. I don't hear that one as much. But I What? I want to be a rapper. I'm just kidding. I don't know about that one. I don't hear that one as much. But I always wanted to ask you as well. We had Dr. Cheyenne Bryant here the other day. Yeah, I saw that. And she was talking about change behavior. Yeah.

Opposed to, we were talking about men doing things in relationships. It came from men. So if a man is a womanizer or a man is an abuser, she was saying that she feels like men don't change. They just shift and pivot. What's your thoughts on that? You saw the clip, right? I saw the clip. I very much disagree with her. When she says like people, she said people don't change it and respectfully, like I don't, I don't want to talk down about anybody, but therapist beef.

Man, I got enough of that in my field. I certainly don't want that with down about anybody, but therapist beef, let's go. Therapist beef. Man, I got enough of that in my field. I certainly don't want that with the good sister, Dr. Bryant. I heard her say that people don't change. She was like, I don't change it, but that is actually not true. So we have to go back to what's the definition of change. So here's an example.

Recently, I've been taking my health more seriously and I gave up soda, fried food, candy, working out. When you do that, my body chemistry is different. If you did a CAT scan on my brain now versus six months ago, it looks different. Like wouldn't that be definable, noticeable, observable change? And we often use phrases like, you are what you consistently do so if I

change what I consistently do don't I change who I am and how I show up in this world I think it's a very disheartening thing to say people don't change they shift like what if I've had a really hard life trauma abuse tragedy and I cope with that comma trauma abuse and tragedy with drugs and alcohol, are you saying I can just shift? I can't actually transform and become a healed human and outgrow the problems that plagued my life and led to these addictive behaviors?

Like that's wildly inaccurate. And you recently becoming a new mother again, you're not the same person as you were before this person. Like wouldn't we observe that as change? Absolutely. Like that's, that's just a different thing. I think she was saying that you have to make these shifts in your life before it lead to actual change.

But I don't, I don't actually, I don't know that that's true. I think, I think the first step in change is it goes back to what we were saying before, it's identifying who you want to be. And once you identify who you want to be, then the next steps become very obvious. You now identify as a mom of two instead of what you were before, which is a mom of one. And at some point in your life, you were a mom of zero.

And that's gonna impact your choices. So it really starts with how you identify and what you do. So when she said that, I was like, oh man, you know me. Sometimes I'm screaming at the computer like, oh. But I just, I really disagree with her. I think the greatest capacity that human beings have is the ability to transform their circumstances.

And we do that by the way we identify. What about if you, going back to what we were talking about before, Dr. Bryant, what about if you don't know what you wanna do? Or what if that changes? What if you get into something and then you're like, ugh, is this what I really wanna do? Or how do you get out of that?

Because then you can land yourself in a funk, you can be depressed or something like that. Right, well, so I think there's two questions there. What if you don't know what you wanna be? I know a really good book that people should read that'll help them identify change your questions change the future by no No, but seriously But I mean if you don't know what you want to be you should explore and you should try things and you should ask Yourself the kind of questions like

Like what difference do I want to make in this world? What impact do I want to have in this world? Who do I want to make in this world? What impact do I want to have in this world? Who do I want to have an impact upon? How do I want to wake up and spend my days? And when you ask yourself those types of questions, it informs what you want to do. I don't want to wake up and, like, I like to cook, right? I'm pretty good at cooking.

I don't want to wake up and serve in a restaurant, but I know people who do. I want to wake up and help people overcome life's circumstances So I became a psychotherapist and the second thing is I don't know that if you end up in the wrong situation You end up in a funk or depressed I think you have to have a Realization that I can't discover who I am without trying all kinds of things and then having the boldness to say this doesn't fit and Then having the boldness to fight for the things that do. Like once I decided I wanted to become a psychotherapist it wasn't like the path was easy. In fact it's been very very challenging. First

of all I had to get a master's degree and that required two degrees and I don't know a lot of people in my family or environment where people were getting master's degrees. I had to get a license, I had to study and work and and then you know when I showed up in the psychotherapy field and I say this all the time and people don't really believe me but when you're in graduate school studying psychotherapy in 2005 there are zero literally zero African-American faces that you study in those books. So do you think the white status quo in the field was very excited for this black dude to show up and start writing

books and start showing up on stages like it's been a really hard but I know this is my place so you have to have the boldness like this is where I am and I'm going to fight for it and and all three of you in in many different environments comedy business music radio and television like you've all been wildly successful and I would venture to bet it hasn't always been easy, the whole journey. Not at all. Not at all.

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Yeah, a lot. I wanna replicate the journey, I wanna replicate the outcome, but if I wanna be just hilarious, I have to change my question and ask, what street did she go down to get to the ultimate destination where she got? And I've gotta be willing to go down that same street. And that's not an easy thing to do. I mean, that's a hard, hard road to do. In chapter five, you talk about being difference-led.

What does that mean, to be difference-led? Yeah, like, a really, really powerful question to ask yourself, or in my case when I ask my clients, is what difference would that make? So if I identify that I wanna be a, I wanna have a successful podcast, you should ask yourself, like, what difference will it make in my life

to have a successful podcast? Because difference leads to motivation. Now, you have 10 jobs, right? but let's imagine the only job you have is comic and you're tired and you're like I don't want to get on another plane, I don't want to get on another bus, I don't want to take another stage but if I were to ask her like what difference would it make if you continue to do that she's inherently gonna think about these two babies and she's gonna think about my ability to pay for their future, their college, whatever and that's gonna increase her motivation to to pay for their future, their college, whatever. And that's gonna increase her motivation

to do really hard things for the betterment of her life, the betterment of her children's life. And most people don't think about difference, they just think about, like on a very surface level, the thing that they want. And I think we should spend more time thinking about difference. What would you say to people who are experiencing grief

due to Vice President Kamala Harris losing the election? Oh, that's a good question. I would say, like, honor your feelings. I would say, you know, this is a hard time depending on what you thought about the election and who you were passionate about or whatever. I would say honor those feelings, but then I would also say turn that grief into action,

turn that grief into something you can do. I think the most powerful way to deal with grief is with hope, and a powerful way to deal with grief is with honor. So one really good example is a grief that I've had in my life is my Uncle Jeffrey passed away. And he was, to make a super long story really short, I grew up really depressed and anxious

from a difficult childhood. And my grandmother in her ultimate wisdom knew that one of the things that would help Elliot feel better is if he knew how much like his Uncle Jeffrey he was. You know, when you grow up and you're super isolated, you just don't feel like you belong. My grandmother sent this dude to come hang out with me and I felt like I had a place in this world.

And I was in Denmark teaching in 2017 and I got this horrible message on Facebook. I learned that my uncle passed away on Facebook. And my uncle, he was a big kid man and he would have loved all this stuff That's happened like I've signed TV deals and got shows and development and books and hanging out with you and doing all kinds of stuff He would find that stuff so fun So the way I deal with the grief is like he's mentally coming along with me for the journey

That that's how I honor him so we also if you're grieving in post-election Like how do you honor whatever motivated you like for me as an African-American I thought it was amazing to watch a black woman do some of the things that Kamala was doing like it was it was amazing I thought about my grandmother who never thought this would happen ever in the United States and to watch Kamala do what she was doing so I thought it was amazing and the way that I plan to honor that is by continuing to fight for a world where a woman is not voted for for things that are a not true and b she can't control. I had many

many people in the black community tell me I just don't think a woman should be the leader of America. And I'd be like, why? Like to me, it's wildly hypocritical for someone to say, my woman should be at home, like as a leader of the house, but then you say women can't lead and you don't want a woman to be in power. It's like, those things don't, they're not congruent thoughts.

So I think we have to honor the process and one of the ways I plan to do that is can you continue to advocate for black culture and black women in particular, because I think black women are, they need to be advocated for. And I think hope matters because hope allows us to think that there's opportunity for things

to be different in the future. And we need to think about what kind of world we want to live in and do whatever we can in our small micro worlds and in our big macro world to advocate for the kind of world we want to live in. Also Saw, you say that one of the biggest mistakes people are making is making emotional decisions when you should be making it based on discipline.

Yes, you should be making it based on discipline for sure. Expand on that. Yeah, discipline, I've heard somebody say, and I agree, discipline is the highest level of self-love, and you just can't achieve anything based upon emotion or instantaneous desire. You have to have the outcome you want in your mind all of the time like We landed late last night and me and my camera guys over there

We went for a walk in time square And I had a really long day And I was super hungry And you walking around time square at midnight you see a bunch of Nathan's hot dog stands and all kinds of crazy food You can get anything at any hour in New York City and I like my instantaneous emotional desire was to fulfill that need, like those french fries would taste good

and that hot dog would taste good. But my long-term outcome is about my health and who I want to be going forward. So I have to make a disciplined decision. And a disciplined decision, a decision that's in line with your stated goal, like the person you're trying to become and an emotional decision is something that would just meet that need right now like it would have

felt good to eat that hot dog but i would have woke up with regret i wouldn't have felt right the momentum i've gathered over the past few months i would have lost that it's just not worth it so people need to make disciplined decisions all throughout their life and health is just one example but like you guys all had to make discipline decisions on your pathway to where you ultimately got professionally. And opportunities came your way that sounded good, but I can't do that because it's not moving me in this right place.

And that's discipline. And neither of you would be in the position you're in without a high, high, high level of discipline. We just don't talk about it. Like if someone were to ask Jess, how do you become a successful comedian? They're just thinking about how funny you have to be. But I know a lot of comedians

and being funny is just a part of it. I mean, that's a part of the whole amoeba of what skills you have to have to be a successful comic. And one of them is discipline. Absolutely. I wonder when it comes to changing your questions, do people have the emotional intelligence to ask the right questions?

And what I mean by that is, you know, you might automatically think somebody always trying to play you when things don't go your way, right? It's like, yo, this person trying to play me, you know what I mean? Like, does this person have something against me? Like, to me, that's so the low level of emotional intelligence.

Like, you have to have a high level of emotional intelligence to ask yourself the right question. I think that's true, but I think you can grow your emotional intelligence. I think, I mean I think you're 100% right. People, something doesn't go their way, they're like so and so trying to get me, and I think you have to shift that,

and one of the ways to help shift that is to read books like this, go to psychotherapy, and realize that even if the world seems to be against you You still have a way to impact that you still have a way to make a difference in that you still have a way to overcome That I mean I'm someone that over the course of my life. I have fallen in love with Things feeling like they're against me. I actually love the challenge of that now and I couldn't have said that before but I do I love it when it's like The odds are against you and you don't really feel like you can see you can succeed and the reason I feel that way now And I haven't felt that way before is number one because that's when I can prove my strength

Like if everything was easy, I don't get to prove That I have any level of strength. Like I want some pushback. And number two, I want to make, there are some people that invested a lot in me. My grandmother, my mother, shout out to my mother, Jeanette Connish, you'd probably be entertained that I would say her name here. My aunt, Lenny, like these people have invested a lot in me. So I actually like when there's a little bit of pushback because I get to show them what they taught me was magical and

Powerful so you have to shift from like the whole universe is against me to like this is just an opportunity Me to show people how strong I am This is an opportunity for me to show people that have poured into me that the stuff they poured into me was valuable And I use it so you have to really change everything about your perspective And I've said this a lot before too, but you have to be super grateful Like I'm now at a point in my life where I'm grateful for challenges because that's when I can see Has all of this been worth it and now I realize it has like it has been worth it to be able to push back When obstacles show up and most people spend so much of their time

Entitled that they spend so less of their time grateful and I realized I'm not entitled to anything and I'm so grateful for every opportunity every chance people were in my life friends I will randomly text them thank you for things because I just want to be so appreciative of every moment that I've had because I think it's all a gift even though even the challenges and the problems are all gifts. And how many of y'all have gotten fired from a job or booed off a stage or whatever, and at the time it happened, it hurt, and it was difficult, it was challenging,

but you look back and realize I needed that. Like that was a good thing that had happened to me. It wasn't fun, it wasn't exciting, and I don't wanna go through it again, but I needed that in order to get to get here. So I think we have to just shift and I think people can. I do think we kind of operate on a low level of emotional intelligence or at least a lot of people do, but I think that can be impacted by doing things like educating yourself, feeding your brain, quality things instead of

playing around on social media. Like read a book. Most successful people have libraries and unsuccessful people have television. That's a measurable piece of data that rich, wildly successful, goal attaining people have more books and people who are not as successful watch television many more hours. So, and that comes from, they're just feeding their brain better stuff, and what does that do?

That increases your level of emotional intelligence. How do they follow you, Elliot Coney? I don't know why everyone would call you doctor. Everybody do, everybody does. How do they follow me? Go to Instagram, at Elliot Speaks. Spell my name with two Ls and two Ts. You can follow me on Facebook, just look at my name, Elliot Coney, it's not with two Ls and two Ts. You can follow me on Facebook,

just look at my name Elliot Connie, it's not too many people named Elliot Connie. His new book is out now, Change Your Questions, Change Your Future, Overcoming Challenges, and Create a New Vision for Your Life Using the Principles of Solution-Focused Brief Therapy. Make sure you go get that and check out Elliot's podcast, Family Therapy on the Black Thunder,

iHeartRadio Podcast Network. That's right. Always a pleasure, my brothers. Elliot Connie, pick up the book. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up early in the morning. The Breakfast Club.

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Listen to the CINO Show on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together.

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