The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Erika Alexander & Kim Coles On 'ReLiving Single' Podcast, 'Living Color,' ‘Friends,' TC Carson +More

Episode Date: May 2, 2025

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Erika Alexander & Kim Coles To Discuss 'ReLiving Single' Podcast, 'Living Color,' ‘Friends,' TC Carson. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Some legends are in the building. Erica Alexander and Kim Cole. Thank you so much. Thank you. All right. I take that every day. They have launched the Reliving Single Podcast. New episodes come out every Wednesday, starting on May 7th on YouTube.

Absolutely. What inspired the creation of the Reliving Single Podcast? You start. Well, you know, looking at my Gucci, it's about that time, why not? It's been 30 years actually, 30 years, two years ago actually, it's 32 years that we had the anniversary of our show. The problem was it was during the the the

strike and no one was allowed to say anything about anything that was on a studio and or network type of thing so then nothing happened and for a very long time I was asked about reboot and I always said no. I always said no. You have said no. I said why? Consistently because I didn't want to go. I'm very identified with that character, Maxine Shaw, attorney-at-law. And I love her. But perhaps, and I always say this very honestly, if I had a big film career or something that would offset it,

that would be nice. So it wasn't just a matter of me saying no. I would be stepping into something that I didn't think I could shake as easily as other people. And so this opportunity came and was approached by Eric Eddings at Heartbeat and he said, do you want to do it? I said, no, not really, I don't want to do it.

But he kept asking and I thought, well, it's the 30th anniversary, people really love it, they're doing things all the time, why not? And it's an opportunity because of you, Charlemagne, learned very well with Color Farm and you've given us our opportunities with Finding Tamika and also with Kevin with, sorry, with the reparations. The big payback.

The big payback that you can go deep in podcasts where you can't do that even in documentary. And with episode after episode, we'd be able to talk. And then they approached Kim. And I said, yes, I'm waiting. I'm waiting. I've been waiting this whole time. And I actually think that, you know, this is this is shallow. I know. I think we all still look good. Let's do the reboot. Yeah, come on. Listen, everybody's

busy and everybody has their own other thing that they're doing. And so this was an easy way to give the fans and the fans of the show a taste of what they want. For sure. Everyone will come on the show and I can't I don't know if I can give away that someone has already come and taped an episode smooches that's a hint um and so it's a chance to go deep like you said we're going to talk about the behind the scenes and the things and and actually we've known each other for that long revelations have come out like things have come out like I didn't know that about you Erica I didn't know that about that was going on behind the scenes and so the audience will be let in on something very powerful that could not even happen on a reboot. So you're welcome. So many white shows do it. Scrubs has it with, I can't remember the brothers, Donald and

This Is Us. Yes, This Is Us, Boy Meets World. Is this the first black rewatch show? Is it? The Chaperonis, yeah. We are. Probably hosted by the actual cast members that I can think of. I could be wrong, but I can think of. I feel so. So it feels like the right time and we're having a good time doing it. Have you guys ever thought about if you did do a reboot where the characters lives would be now? Like what would the storylines be? I have and I don't know if I'm right. You know like you know there was talk on the on Living Single that Sinclair and Overton would

have twins and their names would be S. Cloverton and Over Claire. Oh that would be so unbranded! We have twins, they're grown up, they're a boy and a girl, they're fabulous, they're you know loving, so I all the things all the things. Maxine Shaw would be governor. Yeah, you know probably ruling like she is always been. You know obviously she has to be tied up with TC's Kyle Barker. Right. And they had a child on Half and Half. I don't know if that child still exists. I don't know. I mean, you know, that's a good question.

She might be in a bar somewhere. I mean, sorry, a Mexican jail somewhere, doing her damage, you know. Maybe she was burnt out by life. Who knows? I mean, you go that fast pace. You don't always win, and a lot of lawyers burn out. I would love. That could be so good. I was about to say. Even Khadijah, she would have to make changes because there's no such thing as the printing.

No. She would be a media mogul, I suppose. But here, that's the other thing too. I remember, you know, the fans always say, where's the reboot reboot? And one time I saw somebody say, no, I don't want to see where they've gone. Because in my mind, they live in a perfect space,

in a perfect place. And so anything that we do, there'll be somebody who disagrees with gone because in my mind they live in a perfect space in a perfect place And so anything that we do there'll be somebody who disagrees with it. Well, why is she in a jail? Why is she what you know, whatever it is like there? There'll be no it lives in a perfect space where it is right now. So maybe let it be definitely the jail storyline We know what I'm saying Meaning she was having too much fun. I mean, but why? You know, you're saying something very real, and in fact, meets fiction.

That's where we are coming in, talking about something that's very fact. Maxine Shaw is a fictional character. Eric Alexander is a fact. Eric Alexander in 30 Years of Living has changed. You know, and we had good days, bad days. We have, you know, ups and downs. So I'm hoping those characters would have the same things and we had good days, bad days. We have, you know, ups and downs. And so I'm hoping those characters would have the same things that we had.

What moments on Set of Living Single helped shaped who you all are off camera? Not just as actresses, but as women that had to navigate fame and friendship and career pressure? Hmm. What moments shaped who... What moments helped shape who you are off-cam? I think we got along really well very quickly.

I felt the energy from the first table read. And so there was an energy and a respect and a friendship and a sisterhood and a brotherhood that developed so quickly that that permeated everything else that we did. We would go and hang out together. Erica and TC have the same exact birthday Same day John Hinton's birthday is two weeks later So we would go out and like what do y'all want to do for your birthday salsa dancing? Let's go So we became family really quickly and so I think that that helped

Infuse the energy on the set and in our characters. We really were friends and we really are still friends So but then we're also,'re also movers and shakers. If you're 23 years old and I'm faking like I'm a lawyer, I have a high school degree. And I think it made me want to level up. In my reading and how I approach life, she was a killer. She was a real winner. So I'd like to say that that shaped me a lot. I think it was already there.

But I really liked how she had integrity. I don't know, that's a really good question. It really is. But I think that a lot of things that have happened after the show have been very consistent with what our characters might have done. Well, I want y'all to think about that question and unpack it on the reliving single.

Done. Okay, we gonna think about it. That would be a Charlemagne question. Charlemagne has submitted this question. I'm gonna send it to the fan question. We have a segment where people call, what are the fans and the friends of the show can send in their questions.

And so we call it True Blue, get it? Tight like glue, yeah. So we will make sure we submit that one. So you heard it here first and then we'll unpack it further. Thank you. He's giving us homework. I know. This is heavy lifting.

Erica, or Ms. Alexander, what do you want me to call you? Okay, Erica. The great though. Erica Alexander, the period. Got you, Erica Alexander, the great, period. I was reading this article on MSNBC's website and the writer was talking about how your, she discovered, she was late,

she discovered Living Single for the first time a year ago and like deep dived and like went and read conversations around it and she was trying to figure out why you didn't win an Emmy for your performance. Oh, that's good. And when I read it, I'm like, first of all, late to the party, but welcome. But I thought about it and I was like, I mean,

like what's that feeling like for you? Because yeah, you said you were, how old portraying the character? 23. 23, portraying, we would have never known. You sold it, you did it. Like the storylines that y'all dived into. You know what I mean?

Did you ever feel like there were things that should have happened for you in that role? For many people. I'm unfortunately in a club that no one wants to belong to and especially if you think that, and I'll take the compliment and say thank you very much, but I was right alongside people like Cecily Tyson and all these other people would never want anything

for the work that they had done. And Cecily Tyson has since gotten an Oscar and she got it before she passed, and those types of things. But no, I think blackness, racism, all the disparities and equities were there, and especially in the, what is it, early 90s. And I say the blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice, the tighter the noose.

They don't let you go so far. And that's real. So it was tough. That's real. And so I'm very gratified, but there's nothing you can do about it. There's people like Abbott Elementary and all the other people, and they've come and doing very well.

But being a dark skin actress and also being funny and maybe not being the ideal of what they thought funny girls looked like, they didn't know what to do with me. And I got offered nothing after I finished that show. Absolutely nothing. No. As long as I'm alive, I will never understand that

because I feel like we grew up, as far as TV is concerned, in the peak black excellence experience of television. Cosby Show was the number one show in the country. Different World was the number two show in the country. Different World was the number two show in the country. What more do black people have to prove when they got that? Phylicia Rashad never nominated for it. Phylicia Rashad, eight years.

I mean, yeah, there's no explanation except for the gender and race disparities that have plagued America for all this time. And it's not unique among just political people, creatives, y'all dealing with it now. Y'all in the, so that's our race. Harriet Tubman did hers, that's ours. How did working on Living Single change

your view of black sisterhood? And did it shift the way you approached friendships in your real life? Not for me, because I have incredible female relationships. Incredible. In fact, my high school, we just celebrated our 45th anniversary. Last week, I couldn't come because I

was headed here for y'all. And so I've already had a group. Got the excuse you gave them? Yeah. I'll come here next week. I can't come here now. I'll be in New York next week. I can't come today.

I can't fight two times. You lucky you got me here now. I'll see you all at the 50th. I plan to tighten it up so I'm real cute by then. But the point is I always had really good friendships and actually it felt normal to me to be around women that I respected. They were all different, but I respected and loved and so I had that and I had that strength. So it just felt like, that felt like home. I don't know if that's the right answer.

What was the question? Did I answer it? I'm just back now. You're talking about the family, I'm sorry, the women's friendships. You know, I was in all girls' high school. Philadelphia High School for Girls, gotta give a shout out. And I wasn't good with girlfriends.

They said, I always loved boys, I always loved men. I'm a good with girlfriends. I always loved boys. I always loved men. I'm a guy's girl. Same. I always have. I grew up in Arizona. I'm a tomboy. I always thought men...

No, no, no. It's not that. It wasn't that. I'm used to having good girlfriends. I understand. But for all that I went to in all girls high school, I didn't necessarily think that I practiced much because that was my preference. It kind of still is.

I just think that there was a lot of freedom I thought that men had. They took me for, I don't want to say one of the guys, but once you show you could stand up with them, I got a lot of truth about who I was next to them. And I thought sometime I was pulling my punches with women. Like, oh, don't say that, you're gonna make her feel like, and I didn't have time for that.

Yes, I completely resonate with you. That's how I grew up the same way. I had maybe what, three homegirls, but I had like 10, 11. I always went where the guys went. I'm hanging on the court. That's how I became so quick on my feet with being a comedian. Exactly. Having jokes, throwing them back, they throwing them at me.

Guys didn't get offended when I'm joking with them. You know, girls, they a little bit more, you know. And I'm saying they, like I'm not one. No, no, no. What you talking about, we met at Tong Girl. It was like, you know, you kinda, you know, you like one of the boys. And you feel very protected in that space too.

I feel very protected. And respected, they do respect you. And look at you like, oh yeah, that's our girl. That's our girl. So I've been like that as well. What I wanted to ask was, do either of you think that Friends, the show Friends, truly owes some of its success

to the groundwork laid by Living Single? 100,000%. 100,000%, moving on, next question. No, no, no. Here's the thing, and I always, you know, this is a little fact that most people don't know, is that the president of the network, of their network, NBC at the time, had been asked if there was any show that you wish you could have purchased

for this, you know, upcoming season. He said, I wish I bought Living Single. And then a year later, there was Friends. And so it absolutely tracks and yeah, great show and wish them all well, but it absolutely was influenced. We influenced them. And it was also tough because you know, we were both Warner Brothers production. We were on this little ranch lot, you know, off to the side and they were on the big lot. We have a cafeteria and you have little trice, you know, bicycles, you get from here to there and then and the salary disparity was huge. Very different. What access they had to marketing, the access they had to all the money

and all the things was very different than what we had. Yeah, we had craft service table run by this old, beautiful old white dude named Pops. And he's putting things out like rich crackers and pickled eggs. And we're like, dude, we gonna fart all day. We trying to work. It got better.

It did get better. We had to ask for that though. They asked for air conditioning, all these all day. We trying to work. It got better. It did get better. We had to ask for that though. To ask for air conditioning, all these other things. Ask for better trailers. Shouldn't have to. I just come from the Cosby show, the biggest show in the world. I wasn't expecting it to have that kind of leverage.

But you did know when you thought you were being treated less than. And they didn't have to because, like a lot of productions, if you put very little into black people, we give you more. Black show biz gives you more. And when they see that,

the investment's not necessarily there. And that's what you really miss out on. Did Living Single, did it get pitched to NBC? Because it would make so much sense. Because like you said, you were on the Cosby Show, the success of the Cosby Show in a different world. NBC should have stood for Nothing But Colors after that success.

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The show was created around Queen Latifah and me. A lot of people don't know that. They called me into a meeting at Warner Brothers and we want to do a show. And a lot of people don't know this either. The idea for the show, the impetus was, you remember the movie Jungle Fever? There's a scene that they call the war council

and it's a group of women sitting around talking about men and relationships and what they're dealing with. And they said to me, and I'm assuming they said to Latifah too in a separate meeting, we wanna do a show that's about this. And I said, if the show is about bashing men,

I'm not interested. And not that that scene in Jungle Fever was only about bashing men, but they were handling a particular topic. And they were like, oh, okay, because I love men. And so if we can talk about the relationships and, you know, the growth and, you know, being driven and what do you want? I was like, I'm in. And they were having the same meetings with Latifah, the two of us were put together. And then we together agreed that Yvette Lee Bowser should be the one to create the show. So to be there at the beginning and to be involved in creating Sinclair and

involved in knowing what the relationships were going to be to start with and then to hear it and watch it unfold was exciting. Yeah. And you know privilege. And you know it's unique too. We got to give her props because both she and Latifah asked for a black showrunner. There are very few black anythings in Hollywood, or writers, let alone a showrunner. Yvette Lee Bowser happened to be on Different World doing her thing. She was on Hanging Mr. Cooper. She had the background, but they weren't necessarily going to just give that to her. So you guys asking-

Somebody black and somebody female, that was a bonus. That was like a- Right. Yeah. They just gave into that because during that time, I feel like that was a pushback. Well, that was like a right. Yeah, they just they just gave into that cuz during that time I thought it was a list and if you you know, you get two people that you've created a deal around and we both go Yeah, she's the one they go. Okay. Well, let's give her a shot Wow and also We both were at the same agency. So our agency helped and and and Yvette was also at the same agency It's called a Hollywood package got you And so was Kim Fields in that agency,

and so was John Hinton. The only two people not in that agency were me and TC. So did you guys talk? Because a lot of times now on TV, people are like, we should have conversations behind the scenes, rally together, and then go to the forefront and ask for what we want. Did you and Queenland T4, your agents, get to do that?

We did. We did. So that list and us, we each met with her separately, and we both together said, oh, she's the one. Let's go We did. We did. So that list and us, we each met with her separately and we both together said, oh, she's the one, let's go with her. And then, you know, the agents do their, do their movements, you know, that, that we do know about and that we don't know about. But yeah, there were like, for example, the, the, the, the name of the show was not originally Living Single. It was My Girls. And I tell a story on the podcast of we were

like, they wanted to change the name to Living Single and we thought it was horrible. Who says that? Nobody talks that way. I'm yeah, what's up? I'm Living Single. It's like the words didn't match. And so I have a memory and I don't know, Dana would have to correct me if we got into a little golf cart and went from the plantation lot where we were, and took it over to the big lot, and got invited into the office of the president of the network, like, you know, president of the production company.

Like you're going to Oz. Right, like, oh. Oh, they got bottled water here. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the disrespect. They got bottled water here. By the way, we knew that name is hard,

and we would like to protest. And he's like, all right, well, thank you very much for giving your, and I think that came. Thank you for your feedback. All right, right now. And it was like, oh, that's a terrible name. Now it's the best name. Like what else would the show be called?

He basically patted your, if you want to hear it, it's good for you. And then sent you back. We got back in the golf cart and went back on the other side of the hill, you know. I can't wait to hear the episode with TC Carson because he's spoken about being fired from living single after, you know, for that treatment compared to friends.

So how did the cast as a whole feel when he got fired? It was grief. It was a lot of grief. Did anybody fight for him? Well, I fought for him. We all fought for him. Then you go on, come on now. We all fought for him, but it was done before,

here's what the timing of it is. He was let go just before the, they call the announcements for the shows the up fronts. We all come to New York, there's a big announcement, you were on stage with Fox and all the other Fox shows. I didn't find out until in the hotel room, the day before, oh by the way, TC won't be there, he's been let go.

So it's like, so we're talking to Yvette, we're talking to people and going, what's going on? And it was, my understanding is that it was already done. So you fight for him, but if, I don't know what else I could have done if the decision had already been made. I wanted not to come to work. I wanted to, it was, I thought once we got on set

that we would talk about it and maybe just say, we were not gonna work. That's like hardcore, but it didn't go down that way. And in fact two years before I tried to leave myself and got threatened to be sued. So I already stepped up and I knew where I could go. I was like, here we go, Lord. I'm doing an interview now. I wasn't, oh Lord, see I don't want to start crying.

I wasn't happy and the thing was I didn't think that I was being used well. And it's a longer story than that and I don't want to, it needs more context for Yvette Lee Bowser's sake because Yvette Lee Bowser had a lot to do with six different characters and there were lots of things going on but also I want to say something that emotionally a month before I got that show originally the pilot my father had passed I had a lot of things that I dealing with mentally yeah and we didn't know that Erica I never talked about that mess but um the whole time you were there

you never talked about your father passing away? No because I don't complain I don't talk I do my work. We knew that her father had passed away at some point because we talked but I don't think I knew that that had happened a month before and to know that this is one of the revelations that happened on this podcast it's like therapy you're welcome. I didn't know that. Yeah and no but there was a lot of things going on that you think you wanna talk about differently, maybe with your character, and maybe the reception wasn't where I thought it was. But I just said, I gotta go,

because I've been in theater and been doing other things, and I said, I can go back to New York, I don't need this. And it didn't work out the way I got threatened to be sued and all that. Which is another reason you probably didn't work out the way I got threatened to be sued and all that. Which is another reason you probably didn't tell everybody what you was actually dealing with because they'll do stuff like that. We'll sue you, we'll fight.

Exactly, and I never gone, I didn't have the most powerful agent. I didn't have that. I'd always gone on sets alone. So I was there alone in that, just trying to think it through. And I thought at the very least, I could just go back to what I was there alone in that, just trying to think it through. And I thought at the very least I could just go back to what I was doing. Now back to TC, because that's what I think that he didn't have, that we didn't have the armor and we also were darker.

And I have to say there's something to that feeling like you're unprotected. And when you get back and there is no plan and you don't necessarily, you know, friends had gotten together and they all got together to talk about their salary. They stopped going in and they got their salaries corrected tremendously. Wasn't that feeling, although we were all rebels and very supportive in our own way. I don't think we knew what to do.

And it hurts my heart because TC deserved more support. And there was nothing I could do. And I even said, look, fire me. I'm the one who would like to go. And it wasn't something that could happen. And it was wrong to do. It was wrong to do that to him. Was he mad at y'all?

Because he spoke up for the treatment, the unfair treatment that y'all was receiving. And you would think that would be a collective thing. Like, oh, none of y'all gonna get my back? So if this is happening behind the scenes and if you don't know, okay, we know that we were getting, not getting the right treatment. If his, if the decision to,

it's not like we were brought into the meeting, by the way, we're gonna let TC go. It's not like, I didn't know that, Latifah didn't know that. We didn't know that in advance. I didn't, It was unexpected. And you wait until we arrive in New York to go, by the way, TC won't be there because of this. Dana and I get on the phone and go, what the hell's going on?

We get on the phone with Yvette and Yvette is like, that's it. That's it. I didn't know there was something else that I could do in order to to bring him back. If it's been if if you're being told that it's done, that's it. Deal with it. And we don't go to work. But that's because we were young. Of course there's something we could have done. If we all band together and said we're not going in,

we could have made something happen. We could have called the NAACP. We could have done these things, but these are things that we didn't think about. You know, you didn't know how much leverage you'd have after that. I'm telling you that I know I fought. I know I sat down with Yvette.

I know I had these conversations. And I don't think he knew that. And it took years and we had a conversation where he said, why didn't y'all stick up for me? I said, that's not true. That's not true at all. That's not true at all. And I hate that you went all these years

thinking that didn't happen. But it's also his story to tell. And there's some parts and pieces that he thinks went a certain way. And there's certainly, I feel very much, my outspokenness might have put him in a position too. He thinks his outspokenness, but I was very outspoken. I was writing letters to the network

and doing coos and walking out, you know, and I don't think that that was necessarily always taken well by people who want to control you and they broke apart the two people, me and him. And it's also, there's another story to tell. There's our story, there's his story, and then there's the story on their side. Maybe this is a conversation that, you know,

I don't know if Yvette has ever talked about it publicly. I don't know if Warner Brothers ever would, or if they ever cared to. So it's, I feel like we're bearing the- Well, all those people are gone now from Warner Brothers that we knew. Right, but we're bearing the burden of why didn't we do something different and not getting a chance to get another view from what was happening.

They were saying it was a money issue. It's not a money issue. That's what we were talking about. We weren't being paid enough for it to be a money issue. It wasn't a budgetary issue. It wasn't because we brought on a new cast member and we brought on Idalis. It didn't. So that's not true. I don't know what's true. All I know is that he was gone, it was right, and let's go on record to say he's a magnificent actor. Always on time, always knew his lines.

It did not make sense and there, you're living in a world that doesn't always make sense and certainly is not fair. On the pack. If y'all had Instagram, would you have gone live? And just aired out the whole cast and? We had nothing back then. We had nothing back then. Of course we would have. I would have. I'm telling you.

I would have. I did that. I did that the other week. Yes, you know, and I didn't think that my badge was going to work the next day because I and I didn't think that my badge was gonna work the next day because I came in and I came in speaking to everybody and nobody speak back and I knew why. That's a lie. Uh-huh. Whatever. No you know you didn't you say give me a hug because you knew you were gonna send it to the private. I was like what they laughing about? She shut shut the elevator on me And he caught me whack It was a lot going on Was that not a conversation you could have had privately with them to fix what needed to be done Go ahead and we had a conversation before and after that So yeah I wasn't wrong it was wrong the way I did it But I'm gonna get out of here tomorrow

Did the negotiation work for you? Did that tactic work for you? Yes We are family Did the negotiation work for you? Did that tactic work for you? Period, yes. Here we are family. We are family. We are here and we are family. That's what makes family. It is conflict.

We don't go through this life with everything person. Collaboration, conflict, and you know confusion. Yeah. Leads to confession. We got that. Period. Conversion. They gotta go do Sherri.

And compassion. You get some compassion in that mix. Compassion. I know, I know. Come on, come on. conversion they gotta go do Sherry compassion I know I know you're not gonna answer this but I hope y'all gonna get into the the Beauty Center and the weight loss stuff that Queen Latifah talked about that they threw on you guys oh make sure y'all get inside the pockets please I would love to hear the conversation and they said they gonna have me on there absolutely please

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