The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Eva Marcille Talks New Film, Dating Life, Mental Health, Motherhood + More

Episode Date: September 18, 2024

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Eva Marcille To Discuss Her New Film, Dating Life, Mental Health, And Motherhood. Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home, and he wanted to take his son with him. Or back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami? Imagine that your mother died trying to
Starting point is 00:00:53 get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. records brings history to life through hip-hop. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history,
Starting point is 00:02:04 you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton,
Starting point is 00:02:20 and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8th, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. We are going to be reliving every hookup,
Starting point is 00:02:33 every scandal, and every single wig removal together. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, 1974. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. James Brown, Bill Withers, B.B. King, Miriam Akiba. All the biggest black artists on the planet.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Together in Africa. It was a big deal. Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
Starting point is 00:03:27 We are The Breakfast Club. Lawn LaRosa filling in for Jess, who's on maternity leave. And we got a special guest in the building. Eva. Eva Marcel. Welcome back. Thank you. Good morning, gentlemen and beautiful ladies.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Hello. How you feeling? Blessed. Highly favored. There you go. Blessed, black, and highly favored. Well, I'm always black, baby. There you go.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Always black. This new movie, Buried Alive and Surv favorite. Well, I'm always black, baby. There you go. Always black. This new movie, Buried Alive and Survive. First of all, the title is wild. And the thing I love about Lifetime is their titles be right on the money. Yeah. So this is based on a true story? Yes, this is part of the Lifetime Rick from the Headlines series. So it's based on a true story.
Starting point is 00:04:05 And it followed the series that they did about the missing black girls, which I personally thought was really dope, shedding light on black stories that you don't hear. You hear your Lacey Peterson, you hear all these other stories all these years, but our stories you don't hear as much. And so Lifetime has taken the charge to really shine light on melanated stories. And so I play a character, Alicia, who is very demure, very mindful. Very demure.
Starting point is 00:04:30 But no, she's a young lady who went through a tumultuous past with her ex, like crazy ex-boyfriend, but she was in love with him, love of her life from high school, played by Tyler Lepley, super charming. And then he goes to jail for 15 years. He was domestically violent while we were together.
Starting point is 00:04:48 And so he goes to jail. We have a son. And so all I'm trying to do is keep my son safe. And then he gets out of jail early. How early? He did 8 of 15. Got you. But for prison overcrowding, I come home one day,
Starting point is 00:05:02 he's sitting in my living room playing video games with my son. Terrifying. Were you familiar with this story before you did the film? It's Grits Groceries. I feel like they offered me this role because they know that this was my life. Really? Yes, they were like, she been through that. When I read the description, the first thing I thought of was all the stuff
Starting point is 00:05:23 that I know that you went through with your daughter's dad. My daughter's dad is Michael. You mean the donor. Yes, the donor. Sorry. I'm not familiar with any of this. Okay. So forgive me for laughing.
Starting point is 00:05:36 It's okay. No, I think he meant just like, are you familiar with the real life story? I went with it, though. Yeah. That's what we all stopped laughing at. I went with it though. Yeah. That was my, that was my, like when I read it, I'm like, man,
Starting point is 00:05:47 like, was that hard for you? Because you went through a lot publicly with your own situation of, you know, protecting your kid and trying to get away and all that stuff. So how was that mentally for you? What? That thing hit home,
Starting point is 00:06:00 like nobody's business. And for me, I like going into characters like I that I don't know like on my tv show I play like this madam who's like the head of a cartel and I'm pimping these guys I don't do that in real life but this I've done in real life so this was very different it was a cathartic moment for me um I think mental health is very important and when I deal with my therapist for some reason I'm dealing with my divorce I'm not talking about this this was 10 years ago so for the film it let me tap into something that I realized that I hadn't all the way dealt with um and but I survived did you
Starting point is 00:06:36 think about not doing it like did you think about like this might be too much or it's too close to home like maybe I shouldn't take this part? I accept what God allows. I am at a surrender point in my life. I don't think that anything happens on accident. I believe in timing. I believe that God knew that it was time for me to deal with it. How difficult was it to tape during this? Shout out to Talia Lepley because he helped me.
Starting point is 00:07:04 He was such a gentleman and so much fun. We made it light, but I can say it was a bit difficult. There were those days where it was just heavy, heavy drama. But then we would go to lunch at Chili's, and we're shooting out in the boondocks, and I have bruises all over my face. His clothes are all cut up and ripped, and we're walking in like Ike and Tina. Like, yeah, so can I get a cheeseburger and a margarita people thought we were absolutely crazy like absolutely crazy so when you say you
Starting point is 00:07:30 didn't deal with it you just you just suppressed it i um got my daughter and i moved on in life i didn't have i didn't think i had time to dwell in the hurt of things and the effect of things. I had to plant new seeds so that I can work on my new harvest for my daughter. So that's the worst kind of trauma, the trauma that you know you have, but for whatever reason you don't acknowledge it. So you think it's not there and then you get something that triggers you and you're like, what was that? And it's not that I didn't acknowledge it. Right. It's one of those things that when it happened, TMZ got it. It was all over the news. I'm one of those women where I have lived black men. I have three brothers with my platform, I chose not to go on this big rampage about the situation, how it failed, what he did, all that.
Starting point is 00:08:32 That's just that's not my style. It's not how I get down. You know, vintage is mine. Say it the Lord. So I didn't say much about what happened outside of what court documents said. And for my daughter's sake, I don't want to live it every day. You know, I married an amazing man who took care of her and had more kids with him.
Starting point is 00:08:52 And so for me, it was like, you know. Which is Michael, who we saw you on the show with and all that stuff as well, too. Do you, like, do you ever, because I know in this movie, your character has a kid in the middle of this and she has to have conversations. Did this make you think about having conversations
Starting point is 00:09:09 with the Marley at all? Absolutely. It reminds me of the conversations that you have to have. There's that time of innocence that gets taken away from a child. But as a parent, you don't want that to happen. You want to hold on to that innocence as long as you can. You don't want them to know black and white.
Starting point is 00:09:28 You don't want them to understand, like, discrimination. So the last thing I wanted her to do was try to, as a 10-year-old girl, process these adult choices that, I mean, to be quite frank, I don't even think he could process what he did, let alone her understand it. Right. Yeah. So it's not a conversation you want to have, but it's a conversation you have to have. And I had the conversation with my daughter. Oh, wow. Which was difficult. But shout out to Mike Sterling. He helped me. It was beautiful.
Starting point is 00:09:59 And so when I in the film, when I had to have the conversation, it hit home yet again because I remember having to explain, like, your dad is not what you think he is. Yeah. You know? What was your mental and emotional health like after the film was done? I know those conversations with the therapist changed. You know, it's so crazy because I had to apologize. I was just saying earlier, I had to apologize to a friend of mine.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I feel like I was not myself for a smooth month or month and a half afterward. Because I just kind of, to know me, I'm bold. I'm proud. I'm not necessarily loud, but I live unapologetically. But I went back into like the meek, like tiptoe around, like, I don't want to get it wrong. And my friend was like, yo, are you, is everything okay? And I realized i realized like oh my gosh i'm still alicia i'm not even right now i am still that woman that is trying to make sure everything's everything's good all the doors are locked my guns are you know loaded ready to go like sis you're good go to church on sunday so yeah it took me a minute to get out of it because it was real.
Starting point is 00:11:05 I love a God-fearing, gun-toting woman. And you got to give yourself some time to breathe because you went through so much. And then this movie rehashes everything. So much publicly. Publicly, right? Yes. Your divorce situation was very public as well, too. You guys were on the show.
Starting point is 00:11:20 You lived out loud, literally, for a long time. And then you get in this role of this character who people are like, wait, did she write this? Because this was so right on point. I know you mentioned Mike Sterling. And I know that there have been conversations about the divorce and some of the things that you were going through. You talked about the weight loss. Where are you guys at now? Like, is that a good?
Starting point is 00:11:37 Oh, so much better. You know, anybody that's been a part of the Divorce Club knows that it's a process. My parents have been married for 42 years. His parents, 52 years. All my aunts and uncles married. I'm the only person. All my brothers are married. I'm the only person in my family divorced.
Starting point is 00:11:56 So this is like, for my family, it's different. Wow. And so it was not like I had someone to go to, like, what is life like after divorce? Were they supportive, though? Because, you know know a lot of times family only see it one way like you stay together regardless were they supportive when you decided to get a divorce they were supportive they're my brother my brothers were like what's up what's popping you know I'm like that's we gotta go jump this are you little sister big sister I am middle
Starting point is 00:12:20 middle sister okay so I have a little brother and two older two older brothers my baby brother's like six seven though so that's my big little brother. So they're like, what's going on? You didn't say anything about the last situation. We're not doing that mute stuff again. I'm like, everything's good. It's good. We're just going to figure this out.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Now, it's been a year. Communication is great. Took him out on Father's Day. Love that for y'all. Able to see, like, like you know he's a lawyer so New Wind's case he has this big case in Atlanta that it looks like
Starting point is 00:12:50 it's going really really well I'm always gonna support him I mean he's the father of my children he's the man that I love like it just that will never change and anyone that says
Starting point is 00:13:00 otherwise like I was married but I hate him now you're lying to yourself sis you are lying to yourself, sis. You are lying to yourself. So is the door ever open to maybe? You trying to Bruno Mars me? I was just asking.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Is the door open? Watch Buried Alive. It comes out on September 21st on Lifetime. Buried Alive is fine. Why would your son in the movie, Malcolm, just randomly let some man in he never met, though? Because it's his daddy. That's all it takes? That's the password?
Starting point is 00:13:30 So imagine longing your whole life to know your father. And I never told him that his father was a bad guy. I just said that his dad went away. He had to go away.
Starting point is 00:13:42 He chose to leave. And so now he's like 14 years old and I'm an overprotective helicopter mom. Answer your phone. Where are you at? Let me know. Turn your locations on because of what I went through. He doesn't understand it. He's just like, Mom, chill. I promised if my dad was here he wouldn't be doing all this. I'm like, little do you know if your dad was here. Life would be very different. Right. But, um, but yeah, he just, he, it's a kid who wants to know his dad. I mean, any,
Starting point is 00:14:11 imagine going out without a mom and then finding out that's your mom. Like you just want to know her, right? All the other stuff we'll figure out later. So it was just the innocence of a boy wanting to know the man that he would become, you know? Are you that overprotective in real life? You even tried to put a tracker on your son's sneakers in the movie? Are you that overprotective? I am protective in real life, but I'm blessed to have an amazing father figure for my kids. So when it comes to the co-parenting part, and then Mike is in legal too.
Starting point is 00:14:42 So I'm like, who flying in town? No need to call the mayor? We're the governor. We have a few connections, but we are, yeah, I'm very protective. I ask everybody this question that's parents. Are you raising your child out of fear or love? Because in the movie, you're definitely raising them out of fear.
Starting point is 00:14:58 In the movie, straight out of fear. I raise my kids out of love. I raise my kids, I appreciate what my parents went through in life and what they gave me and my brothers. But I also acknowledge what I could do better when it comes to being a parent in 2024. My parents had me in 1984, 40 years ago. So life was different. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:23 This being the reality, I want my kids to know that they can do whatever they want to. My youngest loves Frozen, a little boy. He loves Frozen. And I will buy him a Frozen little house. I'm not putting those stereotypes on him. I don't put my kids in a box. My daughter, she likes boxing. She also likes cheerleading.
Starting point is 00:15:42 You know, like do whatever you want to do. Just be good. Be a good person. My motto is do you. Just make sure it doesn't hurt anybody else. Do whatever you want to do. Just be kind. I think that's great.
Starting point is 00:15:55 That's 100% great. I wasn't working with Tyler because I know, you know, he's a dad now. But he plays this, like, horrible father, you know, but, like, that's not what he gives in real life So what were you guys conversations around him channeling like horrible abusive dad? Tyler was a shout out to Tyler. He's so dope. He's so dope. I had worked with him behind the scenes I'm starting to direct so I worked with him on another project So I was a little familiar with him
Starting point is 00:16:20 Which was nice because you know the man about to choke you out in the movie in the next 10 minutes You might want to know him just a little bit. Right. So I had the privilege of knowing him just a little bit. But he was so charming, so charismatic and very respectful because the subject matter was so heavy. He's like, is this too hard? I'm like, no, go there.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Because if you don't yank me, I'm going to yank you. Like, I'm strong. If I'm trying to get out, I'm getting away. Right. So yank me, let's do this. So... Tyler ain't no little boy now. He is not.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I definitely had some roots. I yanked a little bit too much and then got yanked back. When I told him, yeah, I was like, okay, bring that down 50%. But yeah, Tyler, he was amazing. And being a father, the way in which he dealt with our son in the film, 100%. But yeah, Tyler, he was amazing. And being a father, the way in which he dealt with our son in the film, I thought was beautiful. You can tell that he's a dad. There is a softness to him.
Starting point is 00:17:17 But then there was that, I just got out of jail and I'm going to get mine. And his ability to kind of flip back and forth was really dope. Did you talk to the, in the movie, her name is Alicia. I don't know if that's her name in real life did you speak to her at all no i didn't speak to the um person that it's happened to but this story is not is uh actually a story of something that's happened in seattle one has happened in uh china like this is ripped from the headlines of a real life story um so they were like in real life buried a lot and we're in real life story. So they were like in real life buried alive. And in real life climbed ourselves. People are insane.
Starting point is 00:17:48 And that's why I love Lifetime for doing this. Because it lets you know that things can go beyond your wildest dreams and your wildest imagination. And to be a mom, to be a sister, just like when it comes to safety and who you're with, and just everybody doesn't have it all there.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Right. So make sure you're safe. Make sure you know what's going on. And if you even have an inkling, those red flags, which is Alicia's downfall, which to me are a lot of women and men's downfall when it comes to dating, you fall in love before you really get to know the person. You fall in like, and then you fall in love and infatuation, and then the real person presents themselves.
Starting point is 00:18:27 What is it, the idea of having a man? Is it the dick? Like, what is it that makes it? It'd be a mixture. I was going to say, girl, it's a gumbo. It's a concoffin. It's all of those things. I think it's timing.
Starting point is 00:18:39 If you think about it, it's 8 billion plus people in this world. The fact that you and I were able to meet at this time for whatever reason for me the romantic in me I feel like it's kismet I feel like there's a reason that we've met for some reason whatever it is and so if there's a physical attraction people can lie but as a woman you know in the first 30 to 60 seconds if you know if you what if a lot you'll smash your ass like you know like i can't you don't even have to have a conversation that was that was very girl math but we felt it but they were yeah because he'd be giving charlene sometimes so he'd be knowing charlotte you did ask about the dick. You did. So what?
Starting point is 00:19:25 Okay. First of all, say that with some context. Because out of context, that'll look crazy online. You did ask about the dick. It will. But these ditty days got y'all acting crazy in here. I would also assume that every woman is having sex with the people that they're dating. That's true.
Starting point is 00:19:41 That's one thing that I've learned now being divorced is that I guess like we date we go and have food so like Three days the sex time like who said that that's why I Regardless of you could be seen with Tyler and whoever else and they'll say you dating all of them My best friend that's why he doesn't want to be on camera Gay is to left shoes. Gay as two left shoes? When did two left shoes become gay? I got a gay best friend.
Starting point is 00:20:13 I never heard of two left shoes. Okay, as gay as straight as boiled spaghetti. Yeah, you can't say gay as two left shoes. That's all you're saying ain't nothing right. He's as straight as boiled spaghetti. Jesus Christ. Gay as boiled spaghetti Jesus Christ there we go boiled spaghetti
Starting point is 00:20:27 you know what I'm just saying I'm country and I ain't never heard none of these country ass things boiled spaghetti is not straight no more when you boil spaghetti
Starting point is 00:20:37 that thing wiggle yes you see what I'm saying yes I got you I heard you I like you you will hear me say that one
Starting point is 00:20:44 I'm telling you that right now. Put it in your Instagram bio. So how is your dating life? Shut up. Non-existent. Non? Lord have mercy. You would think it would be easy.
Starting point is 00:20:56 The DMs, my friend L'Oreal taught me how to look in the DMs. Those are terrifying because it's like somebody's husband and their son are both in the DMs, those are terrifying because it's like somebody's husband and their son are both in the DMs and then their pastor and then their women and then their, it's like everybody just calm down. So how can somebody meet you? That's my question. I don't even
Starting point is 00:21:18 know. Do you go out? No. Why? No. I go to work. So it has to be DMs if you don't go out. I mean, you might do casual like drinks and stuff like that. Yes, but do you really get to meet somebody? And then where else? Because you don't want to meet them in the club. Well, I don't do those.
Starting point is 00:21:32 You must have been paid. But I mean, I've been out food, drinks, or whatever. And I've seen you there. And those are nice places where if someone's there, they send you a drink. But not in America. Like if we're in Italy or something. Because they don't know who you are.
Starting point is 00:21:45 As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions. But you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going.
Starting point is 00:22:18 This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out
Starting point is 00:22:33 the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Justin Richmond, host of the Broken Record Podcast.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Every week, I or my co-host, Leah Rose, sit down with the artists you love to get unparalleled creative insight. Now we have a special series where we speak with the artists behind one of the most influential jazz labels of the 20th century, Blue Note Records. You'll hear from artists like nine-time Grammy award-winning Noah Jones, John Mellencamp and Madonna collaborator Michelle Indegiocello, and from the legendary Ron Carter, former member of the Miles Davis Quintet,
Starting point is 00:23:15 who's also played with Herbie Hancock and on Gil Scott Heron's The Revolution Will Not Be Televised. Join us over at Broken Record to hear stories behind the legendary label. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Muhammad Ali, George Foreman,
Starting point is 00:23:34 James Brown, B.B. King, Miriam Akiba. I shook up the world. James Brown said, say it loud. And the kid said, I'm black and I'm proud.
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Starting point is 00:24:13 And how we arrived at this peak moment. I don't have to be what you want me to be. We all came from the continent of Africa. Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and The Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga.
Starting point is 00:24:44 On July 8, 1992, apartment buildings with pools Hey everyone, this is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8th, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. It took drama and mayhem to an entirely new level. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, every backstab, blackmail and explosion, and every single wig removal together. Secrets are revealed as we rewatch every moment with you. Special guests from back in the day will be dropping by. You know who they are.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Sydney, Allison, and Joe are back together on Still the Place with a trip down memory lane and back to Melrose Place. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Thank you. high it's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all it's
Starting point is 00:26:26 light-hearted pretty crazy and very fun listen to post run high on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts there's no pretense it's just like you don't have to think twice the pretty girl over there with the the pink shirt on you know what i mean versus like oh that's Eva. I've had someone say like, yo, I'm going to date you because I'm going to date up. I'm like, whoa. Damn. That didn't work.
Starting point is 00:26:51 At all. I guess that's a compliment, though. I mean, it's a compliment, but it also. He was like, I'm not dating down. Sorry. Makes me feel like, you know what I mean? Nothing's genuine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:03 And so it's difficult. That's why when you ask, do you leave the door open it's like who at my age I turned 40 in October is really going to get to know the real me having been in TV and film for 20 years would you date in the industry you can only date in the industry that is terrifying I do not
Starting point is 00:27:20 want to date in the industry unless she said like she goes out of the country right yes because they're going to end up being interviewed by Charlamagne and they'll be like, so what's popping with you and Eve? What's up with you and Eve? Exactly. Nah. So listen, would you date the bus driver? I would, if you're on the bus company. But what if he's a good man? Oh yes.
Starting point is 00:27:39 For me, I am not about the money. I'm not about the coin. What I'm about is you seeing me. I don't feel like I have been seen in a long time. What do you mean being seen? Because you've been married for a while. Yes, but see the person, not the clothes or the job or the title. I had someone the other day tell me, you know, my job is who I am.
Starting point is 00:28:02 I'm like, whoa, bro, that's sad. That's sad. Because your job can change any day, and then who are you? You know. I'm like, whoa, bro, that's sad. That's sad. That's sad because your job can change any day and then who are you? You know what I'm saying? I feel like I have so many titles and multi-hyphenate. Thank God. So blessed.
Starting point is 00:28:13 So much gratitude. But with that, it's still a little girl inside of here from South Central Los Angeles that want to grit walk to they not like us. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's still that girl. And who wants to tap into, like, the person inside of me, not the facade around me.
Starting point is 00:28:30 You know what I mean? The smoke and mirrors, the titles. That's what Dr. Wayne W. Dyer used to say. He used to say, the stuff you own is not you. No. What you do, your job, you know, your occupation, that's not who you are. It's not.
Starting point is 00:28:43 But in today's society, especially with these young men and women doing so well professionally, it becomes them. Allegedly. You know what I mean? 28 to 35-year-old black men, black women out here, we're millionaires, we're figuring out how to get to the bag, own our own companies, you know, leverage business deals with other companies, not like it used to be.
Starting point is 00:29:05 And so with that, I think comes a lot of ego. I think the sad thing is I think if somebody is trying to date you, I think they probably will first show up with their check, right? They want to show that they can afford you, which is totally the opposite of what you're looking for. Of what I want. So they show me the money. So then you don't want that.
Starting point is 00:29:21 So then it's like the male ego ends up getting frustrated because it's like, what i do for you and i think you got kids you don't you don't need a husband and you don't mean to pay me to pay your mortgage you have multiple cars you go you have a job from there you're trying to figure out like that causes conversation a lot of my i have a lot of girlfriends who are at that point they're like what am i doing wrong when it's like you're not doing anything but being yourself. That's what I asked my therapist. But see, but I hate. That was my question.
Starting point is 00:29:48 A lot of us get there because at that point, you do feel like, man, I'm gonna never find somebody. What am I doing wrong? And I don't think that people should, I don't feel like that. I don't think that people should feel that way. I think you need to track what you want. Somebody that's strong enough to handle all that
Starting point is 00:29:59 will come and we'll figure it out. Well, baby, God better get to build them because I've found some very strong ones, but I still intimidate them. It happens. How do you intimidate them? What's wrong? If you find some strong men that seem like they're powerful,
Starting point is 00:30:13 they have the intellect, what's the problem? Well, for one, I'm not finding anything. I will be found. I am not. You just said you found them. I saw. She means I've come across. That's what approaches her.
Starting point is 00:30:24 But there's still insecurities there. There's still that, you know, when I'm not there, what's going on? I don't know. Maybe you do your eye twinkle like that for that person. Like, it's just, it's always, it's a thing. So it's non-existent. I go to church on Sundays when I'm in town. Besides from that, I'm out of the country or traveling or with my kids when I have them or working.
Starting point is 00:30:46 That's my life. I wonder if Instagram makes men more show offs than anything. Because when you grow up broke, all you got is yourself, right? So you got to be smart. You got to be funny. You got to present all of these other things. I wonder if now- Character.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Character. I wonder if now because of Instagram, people feel like all I got to do is just show, show, show, show, show. And that's how I get. But then that's why y' wonder if now because of Instagram, people feel like all I gotta do is just show, show, show, show, show, and that's how I get, but then that's why y'all are in, well not Lauren, but that's why you're in the position you're in. Damn.
Starting point is 00:31:11 You know what I mean? Why you did that to Lauren like that? Well, Lauren's single for a whole host of other reasons, Eva. He don't know my life. Well, first of all, I'm sure you're single by choice. Thank you. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:31:22 That's first of all. That's not what her mama say. Damn. Her mama said something else, Eva. My mom didn't say nothing about that. What's not what her mama say. Mama said something else. My mom didn't say nothing about that. My mom wants me to be happy wherever I'm going to be happy at. She understands that.
Starting point is 00:31:32 She's giving up. No, she hasn't. She understands that I'm at a point where I need what we talked about. I need somebody that can really handle things and carry me the way that I need to be. I don't think she's ready to settle down. Do you mind me asking your age?
Starting point is 00:31:43 32. Oh, girl, you better play. And that's what she's doing. You better play. Enjoy these 30s. I had my first kid around that time. I have three now. I turn 40 this year. Enjoy these 30s. 20s, you are just figuring out your feminine
Starting point is 00:31:57 hygiene properly. 30s, you get into this. That is true. It's true. That is very true. You're getting your pH balance together. You're figuring out what worked for me. Learning how to shave. Do I shave? Do I wax? Do I laze? He also be telling people, I don't shave my underarms.
Starting point is 00:32:14 She just started shaving her underarms recently. She came in here a little first. Janelle Monae doesn't shave her underarms. I shave my underarms. You don't have to. You don't have to shave any parts of your body if you want to. Some men like wombat.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Wombat's crazy. She has little white balls on her head sometimes. I hate when the men have that style. I did not have that. They're lying. They're literally sitting here and lying to you. Can I see? Can I see? No, I'll be shaving. I'll be waxing.
Starting point is 00:32:48 I'm grown as hell. He's just like a troll. This is what we call a hater. This is what he enjoys. But I do want guys to learn how to, like you said, present with character. Yes. I really do. I do too. I do too. But, you know, they not there yet. It's come up season.
Starting point is 00:33:03 So I'm going to give my brothers their flowers because I see so many black men in different positions making better decisions, running their businesses and doing their things. And so if that means I'm going to have, I told one of my friends, go have your Marcus Graham moment. Like, go live in the city in Soho and get your little house. Like, live your life. I want my boys to do that. I want my boys to live. I don't want them to settle down until they are ready and they found the one. Because divorce is hard.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Heartbreak is real. And when you've ever truly loved someone, you will never stop. It seems like insecurities is the biggest thing, right? Because you are a star. So whoever you're dating sees you with other people it feels like they would have to feel away right it's always a thing and it's not a thing but they are grown but it's just like they're not grown if they have those type of insecurities or they don't trust the right they haven't done the work that's i know so many women who not date a guy who has not gone
Starting point is 00:33:57 to therapy even when you look at this movie this dude clearly had some unhealed trauma that he didn't deal with before he went in and he damn sure didn't deal with it while he was in. No. So he just came home projecting on everybody. But no, actually, when you watch the movie Buried Alive and Survived, he actually did do some therapy. And you'll see that it's about application. To me, life is about three things.
Starting point is 00:34:20 It's about living, it's about learning, and it's about applying. So you live live you learn from whatever it is you did bad and then you apply whatever that lesson is and so you can know what to do you just got to do what you're supposed to do you know you're supposed to floss your teeth twice a day three times a day but do you that's the question you know what i mean so i think a lot of times we just you know we take the easy way out. And because we're grown, we use the fact that, like, I'm grown. I can do whatever I want to do versus being disciplined and doing what you're supposed to do and need to do. So what do you want people to take from this movie?
Starting point is 00:34:54 I want people to take from this movie men and women that are going through any sense of struggle that feel like they are at the bottom of the mountain or trapped in their box of whatever it is in their career, in their relationships, specifically domestic violence. But whatever it is you think that you can't get out of, that is a lie from the pit of hell. Fear is real, but it is nothing but a thought. It is in your mind. It is not a real thing so
Starting point is 00:35:26 if you can fight through your fear i will tell you to climb out of your box do what you have to if you have no fingernails after you scrape through it it doesn't matter climb up keep clawing you have to close your eyes because that dirt is getting in there it doesn't matter you have to cry your way up climb out of your box By the time you look up, you will be at the top of your mountain. That is what I want you to know. Were you in a box for real? Dead ass. They put you in an actual coffin? I was in an actual
Starting point is 00:35:54 shipping crate nailed shut. Oh God. Why did you nail it shut? Because he was burying me alive. Killing me. They couldn't have magnets? No. It was real like the and and i know i'm an actor and i know it's not real but there's something about that moment being in there and imagining because it is ripped from the headlines so it's imagining this real
Starting point is 00:36:15 woman being put in a box by a man that she has loved for all these years and not only that but i have a 14 year old son out here to take care of and as a young king in this world that has nobody but me right i can't stay in this box but yes i was completely nailed into a box and terrified my boy rob had to say all right cut cut cut let her out let her out let her breathe he was scared for me wow are you claustrophobic in any way? Now I am. I don't want to be in a box. You know, yeah, I don't like to get trapped. Wow. Did anybody apologize to you? Because I remember when the pictures came out and you know you had looked like you lost a lot of weight and then you told everybody. I did lose a lot of weight. Oh I know but you told everybody it was because of your
Starting point is 00:37:00 depression or your divorce but did anybody apologize to you because of that? You know people jump to conclusions when they see the pictures. No. Everybody just said I had all kinds of diseases and stuff online and talk dirty. I was afraid to come in here today because I was wondering, like, I'm just me. Some people have good days, some people have bad days.
Starting point is 00:37:17 But I met you first time 15 years ago, and I was this size. So I know that I did housewives. I was pregnant. Pink teacup. Pink teacup. All of us were there. I remember. I remember.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Because you said something nice to me and I'm not used to compliments. I know. And Charlamagne didn't know what to say. He started stuttering. I was a fan of yours. I was nobody. You've always been somebody
Starting point is 00:37:40 even if you knew it or not. You were like you were a fan and you looked better in person than you did on camera. And he started stuttering. He started You know what because at that time you were on radio most of the time and i think breakfast club had like just started so we were just able to like get a face to the voice that's right and a lot of time old school radio you remember like brandy nobody knew that theo was asian like when he came out we were all so surprised so a lot of times you have no idea and i was like
Starting point is 00:38:16 okay charlotte he was stuttering we hadn't even done the breakfast club a year i don't think we had done in six months i just i just met i just saw the voice to the face and I was like, okay, it matched. And at that point, I thought you were blind. I thought you were blind at that point. What happened? What? Are you trying to say that Charlamagne is not attractive, Envy? You don't Charlamagne think he looks like Morris Chestnut?
Starting point is 00:38:37 No, Morris Chestnut thinks Charlamagne looks like Morris Chestnut. No, he doesn't. Morris Chestnut was on Jennifer Hudson's show and he says he gets mistaken for me. He said that. That's a goddamn lie. I'm just telling you what he said. He's blind too. Because Stevie Wonder was the one.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I don't know who it was. I don't know. He said that. I don't know. I don't know. He said that. You guys are both handsome, beautiful black men.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Thank you very much. You got like the must of. I don't even hear this. I don't hear this. Thank you, Eva. But you do have, you have the this in the mouth. I can see a little bit.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Thank you very much. I can see a little bit. Thank you. You squint a little bit. The sky is green. Oh, I thought you a little bit. Thank you very much. I can see a little bit. Thank you. You squint a little bit. The sky is green. Oh, I thought you said me squint. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I thought you said I squint. Even more sad ladies in general. No, wait, I have more stuff for you. I have one more question. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Because I'm a fan of you on Housewives. Thank you. I know you're not on the show anymore. Oh, Lord. Would you ever, so never again, never ever again.
Starting point is 00:39:22 All the Queens men, baby. All the Queens, okay, got you. Yes, season four is going to drop after Barry Live yeah so no housewives questions um you can ask housewives questions i don't mind i just wanted to know your thoughts on the kenya suspension and all that or whatever that's my girl that is my girl i have a baby grand in my sun room because of her her daughter is my niece brookie i love her um i don't know honestly
Starting point is 00:39:46 enough about the situation to speak on it yeah what i do know is that um the show is no holds bar so i don't know when bars started getting held that's why i wanted to ask you because i feel like during your season it was like that you were a part of the last good seasons before they got rid of some people and then i I thought that this was going to bring all of that back. And now they're like, oh no, you can't be on the show anymore because you're doing what we know the show to be.
Starting point is 00:40:11 So I don't know. I don't even know what really happened though. Has it aired yet? No, it has not. Did that air? I don't even know. It didn't. It hasn't aired yet.
Starting point is 00:40:20 It just became chatter. It was so big. It felt like the show should happen right after that. But what's so dope is Kenya Moore has a new hair salon in Atlanta. She's out there helping trusses and helping people grow their hair. Her hair care line is doing amazing. And she came up here and spoke about it. Yeah, that's my girl.
Starting point is 00:40:35 So I don't really know what happened with the situation. I think Housewives lost a real one without Kenya. Yeah. Because Kenya is one to definitely speak her mind. She is very pro-black. She is an amazing, amazing mom. I feel like that's one thing that they do not shed enough light on.
Starting point is 00:40:55 She is a crazy dope mom. Like, I tell her to bring her daughter to my house, and then she comes and she stays. I'm like, no, you go. She's like one of those moms. Like, we here together. No, right.
Starting point is 00:41:04 And she's like, no, I'm just gonna chill. Like, she moms. We here together. No, right. And she's like, no, I'm just going to chill. Like she's like she's she's such a beautiful woman, you know, but as a black woman, you know, strength is a requirement, especially a black woman in America. So she wears her armor all day, every day. And she does what the show called for. Right. And so I don't know what happened, but I know that she will always land on her feet. I know that she God has her and has a
Starting point is 00:41:25 story written for her so I wish her the best and if I didn't have locks and I would go get my hair done by her and what do you think housewives need to do to rebrand because you know candy left Kenya's not there anymore what do you think the housewives and candy's not there is she what do you think they need to do to rebrand bring candy Tucker, that's... You think a whole new cast, or you think just bring the original crew back? You know what? It doesn't matter. Black influence is everything.
Starting point is 00:41:50 So as long as you bring Black entrepreneurs and inspiring creatives on the show, I think you'll see some magic. I saw Nene just made her first return return back to just the network in general. I love that for her. Do you? So being in that like wheelhouse of NBC and all that stuff. NBC Uni.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Yeah. Like, do you think that does that mean that there's a chance for her to get back closer, get on Housewives? Or do you think that that's like completely done as well too? Like, cause we were so excited when we saw it. I don't even know. I mean, I have no clues even if she even wants to do it. Got you.
Starting point is 00:42:25 But I'm excited about her new show. I don't even know. I mean, I have no clue if she even wants to do it. Got you. But I'm excited about her new show. I did see a clip on Instagram. She had blonde hair, my homegirl pair, beat her face. She looked pretty. I love it.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Thank you. Well, Eva Marcel, we appreciate you for joining us this morning and check out Buried Alive and Survive premieres Saturday at 8, 7 Central
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