The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Fat Joe Discusses 'Lean Back' Legacy, Jumping Into Politics, Hair Dying Brand + More

Episode Date: March 29, 2024

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Joey Crack Fat Joe. Why fight the time when you can rewind the time? I know that's right. Why fight the time when you can rewind the time? Joe walked in and Joe said, Envy, I got a check for you. Okay. Envy been had a check. I've never used rewind.

I have to try it. It's hard for us to find the guy this is the best yeah we made this ammonia free this won't break you out you know how you got some people with the grays they front and like they like the gray it's because the other brands will break them out some guys go to the hospital this don't break you out we made this ammonia-free for the black and brown. You know, I do just for men. No, no, it's over for them. Now you turn me into a drill hair groomer. You know the drill, right? A drill hair groomer. Travis Kelty ain't even that old. He gone gray already.

You want to get them sharp lines, man. You go to a Dominican barbershop up in Washington Heights, you might have a spot that just don't connect. They make your shit look like Jalen Rose. You see how Jalen Rose's shit be looking like you could cut your finger off.

Absolutely. I've been trying to get him on the box. He said, Joe, I'm not ready for that yet. It's been a stigma. You know what I'm saying I used to go in there and sneak in at 3 in the morning CVS, Walgreens it was almost like buying a

Kotex, a tampon, your wife sent you to get one and you scared to death to go to I tell you but now we got Travis Kelsey, we got Tyson Beckford Tyson Beckford's the biggest seller I will say this is the realest it's looked, like it actually looks natural. I'm serious.

So if it's the rewind making it look like that, Joe, salute rewind. It was only one time with Joe. It was only one time with Joe. The rewind got me right, man. It was only that one time with you, Joe. That one time. Which one? It was one time.

I got a different conspiracy for it. It wasn't a rewind. No, no. It wasn't a rewind. I got a different conspiracy for it. It wasn't a rewind. No, no, it wasn't a rewind. It was before rewind. I got a different conspiracy for it, right? I just think my shit be so sharp that they think it's fake. You know what I'm saying? But it just be like, maybe I'm hallucinating.

You know how you look in the mirror? Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. You be skinny thinking you want to lose weight. I think it always look good. But one time I came up here and it looked like the chalk. It was not. He didn't come up here. Rewind got it looking right.

Why it got me looking right? I love it. The ladies take care of themselves. They look beautiful. Every day is something new. It's the lashes. It's the this. Every day, they got a new thing in my house. My daughter and my wife, they have the lashes. It's the this. Every day, they got a new thing in my house. You know, my daughter and my wife, they have the lashes.

They have the nails. They have the this. I'm with you. They have the that. There's a new treatment. It's coremorphous. There's this. You know, bro, let me take care of myself.

So you would go get it yourself? Yes. All the time. Wow. The biggest thing I like about it. It was embarrassing. You know, I would throw it in there. I walk in the drugstore and I see all that.

I'm like, Joe getting some money. This is a long-term equity play, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When that go, that's going to go. No, that's the bag. And I ain't going to lie. Shout out to Sally's Beauty, Amazon.com. I mean, people act like, oh, you peacher.

I don't know this shit. Flying. Somebody's buying. Somebody's copping. You know what I'm saying? Also making more men feel more comfortable about being able to do something like this without getting jokes and stuff. Like, Charlamagne just told me that he don't grow his out because it's gray and all of that. All the salt and pepper.

You can get it now, boy. You won't break out nothing. You get that line. You look like Denzel, man. Why look 53 when you could be 40? Why look 53 when you could be 30? I mean, this thing really rewinds

the time, man. I like it. What's going on? Speaking of rewinding the time, 20 years of lean back. Wow. My God. Billion dollars on one stage at the Apollo in one night. Wow. A billion dollars will be present. Wow. We can't keep them away.

Just keep calling, talking about this. No way we're going to celebrate Leanback, Fat Joe, and Remy Ma without coming. So the list of people, right now we only said Dipset, Lox, and us. It's really getting disgusting out there

to line up. And we just going to have the best time. I don't know if it's legal to smoke weed out there, but smoke your shit, have your drink, come in positivity, have a great time, because this is going to be one. I'm making the top five

New York City moment. So like when Muhammad Ali fought for the championship in Madison Square, I'm doing that type of shit. Like when they make a movie about this time 30 years from now, they're going to say The Night in Harlem. Fat Joe's Lean Back and the whole planet Earth came. It was too much in there.

So I'm telling you, if you got a ticket, congrats. If you got a ticket, sell it for more now. Like, it's like, it's too much out of control what's gonna happen in Apollo. You know, I started amateur night. I won four weeks in a row in amateur night. So when I come back, it's always just home to me.

You know, so we did 360. We're doing Apollo April 2nd. It's crazy. I'm telling you, it's gonna be crazy. What did Leanback do for. It's crazy. I'm telling you, it's going to be crazy. What did Leanback do for Fat Joe's career and his life? Well, God did a lot for me. You know what I'm saying?

And so, you know, I went rich. I thought I could save the whole neighborhood, 30 guys in Cadillac trucks and paying everybody's bills and buying lobsters every night for 30 guys. Then I went broke.

I remember afterwards, love, I was on my knees on my knees because that's what you got to do it. You got to like really feel the pain when you're really praying for a miracle. It was like, God, one more chance, please. One more chance. One more chance. He gave me that one more chance. Yeah, that thing went number one in the world. He was like, God, one more chance, please. One more chance, one more chance. He gave me that one more chance.

That thing went number one in the world. We was just, I remember the joint came out and like, I don't know if we could talk too much, but it was like three days after the song came out and Lil Jon asked me to come out at a show with him and perform. And 62,000 people were doing this. Three days after, they was all like this.

Now, I remember I looked to the back and Kanye West was hiding behind the wall. He was like, oh, we got one. You know, and so for me, I don't get high. I don't really do nothing. Ain't nothing wrong. Smoke your weed. Do whatever you want to do. But for me my

adrenaline my get high is putting out hit records hearing it in every call you know lean back what it did do was they was playing this in the club like i walked in the club i mean literally 30 40 times in a row like you'll be dizzy in there you like in there like damn is this shit gonna stop you know what I'm saying and they just it was incredible moment for hip hop music and of course for me and rap but one thing I'll say about Joe

you never had a problem making a hit though so that was never a problem some artists they gotta find a hit they gotta they gotta create a hit you've never had that problem well that's the problem that is the problem what you just said is that because a hit record is really a miracle a real hit record not a fad or something but one that's gonna stay forever uh back that ass up we didn't hear money money just back that up. It's getting hot in here.

Go shorty. It's your birthday. Like those joints. Live forever. Right? They forever. You understand? You got a couple of those, though.

Yeah, I do. But it's a miracle to get that. You understand what I'm saying? So when you get it, you realize, oh, my God. Thank you, God. When everybody turn around and be like, so I'll tell you what happened. I got robbed for my publishing when I first came here.

You said you got robbed. Everybody was like, nah. I got robbed for my publishing. For your publishing, yes. Yeah, every artist did. When I had signed to this dude, Jelly Bean, he hit me with the We Latino and stole my publishing, me and Pun.

And it took me like 15 years to get my shit back right so once i got my thing back i heard all these artists ludicrous this one that one getting two three million dollar deals this this so i went around and they were like you know they were offering me like 250,000 i was like yo what happened to the million dollar deals? And I remember my lawyer at the time, he walked me to the truck. He was like, yo, Joe, you're not really hot right now. Jesus. I said, oh, Lord, that's all I need. I'm a Leo.

I'm a lion. So I went down to Miami, got in with Scott Storch, came back with that lean back. Then I went right back to them same people. They want you to move closer to the mic. A month later, I went back to the same people, and they gave me the check. They gave me the biggest check. They wouldn't even let me leave the room. The minute it came on, and I was like, my people don't do that.

And I'm like, lean back. They was like, oh, no. Don't leave. We got to get this done. And that's real negotiators. Like, real negotiators want to get it done, or they won't let you leave. How did the idea of Lean Back, what people do there? Because it's such a monumental record how did that come about i came up the beat with scott

start the boom boom boom i said scott i want because scott could play anything so i said scott i want you to play music imagine when uh nas dmx and belly were going in to rob the the tunnel where their eyes was like that I said I want to play something that make you feel like they walking in like they about to rob the joint and we came up he was like what I was like bam bam bam bam and he played it right

and so through the whole beat the beat was more like Moroccan inspired to me he made it but I was giving him the, the ideas, right? But the actual hook was, uh,

based on Missy Elliott, right? Cause, cause Missy was like, is that your bit? And then it went on to him. What did it get on time? What did it don't?

Is that your bit? And I didn't want that. And I realized that what I loved about Missy records was repetition. Her hooks would just repeat itself that's when i learned how to be like i'll make it rain i'll make it rain i'll make it you know a hit record repeats itself so then that's where it inspired that and then the jamaicans was killing everything so they had a rock away snick on the plane all right man huh and so i was like yo we gotta do something like the jama. So we don't dance.

We just pull up our pants. So lean back, lean back, lean back. So that was the whole. And then the rhymes, actually, if we're going to keep it 100, were originally on a K-Slay tape. Because they sold gutter. Yeah. That's the illest thing about it.

Yeah, they was on a K-Slay tape. Because, you know, he would keep coming to get me every. He kept my pen warm. So he would come every two, three weeks and be like, yo, kick a freestyle. And then one day I just went crazy on the statement. I was like, all right, when I get the right beat, I'm going to throw these rhymes on it. You know, so that the rest was his. That was out the gate.

Was Remy Ma always on it or was one of those things? Oh, you know what she did? She did the same thing to M. i didn't know how does remy ma thug out mop and fat joe right so i had three verse i wish i remember that verse because it had to be crazy right because it was the it was the lean back you know when you're in the zone when you're in that type of zone where you like talking all that you know man I wish I had that verse I went go get McDonald's me and Caleb went go get McDonald's and we come back everybody nervous in the

studio and I'm like yo what's up and they like I'm like what's up and it was like yo she erased your second verse and kicked the verse I was like yo Ram are you are you crazy like what did you do that was my solo on the terror squad album and when she played all to the east and to the wizard my arms stayed breezy

it was like that thing they say that thing you didn't know you need yeah oh we never knew we we needed it and so i'm i'm proud you know that me and my sister did that and put it out the park together i just feel like you know me and her we just got a super winning formula um i don't want to say it like that but it's true though like when dre and snoop come with a joint you just like know it's dumb when ram and joe come if they come with it it's out of here and so that's the same thing i did with her all the way up. You know, she came out of jail. She was struggling. I was struggling.

And I sat down. I said, listen, man, let me explain something to you. I said, we could just, like, if we could just put the thread through a needle. Like, if we do do what we got to do, it's out of here because these people only know us from winning together. She was like, all right, bro, put it together. And so when we did all the way up, it felt like lean together. She's like, alright, bro, put it together. And so when we did All the Way Up, it felt like Lean Back. It felt like, oh, they back.

But you don't know what I'm going through in life. We struggling. We pop. We trying to come back. I'm performing in Yugoslavia or China or Philippines. You know, I'm trying to run up the bag. And so that, you know, All the Way Up, it's almost like Lean Back 2 is like a continuation to it,

to be honest with you. Does collaborating with Remy feel like collaborating with Pun? It's the same thing. It's so weird. She's the only person, Tone Sunshine too, that makes me feel like Pun is in the building. When I'm in the studio with Ram, I mean, you know, Terror Squad DNA is really different.

Like, it's really different. We the most loyal when you lock in, and it's like we got each other's back for life. So it's like when we get in that studio, we telling stupid jokes, but you can hear puns jokes in the jokes. You know what I'm saying? And we bothering each other. We doing whatever we doing, but the man always in the building, you know, as weird as it sounds to anybody, you know,

any moment I ever had in my life, it was like big. I swear to God, I'm not lying. If I had a big moment and I go in the car, the minute I turn on the radio, still not a player's plan or, or I signed a deal.

And I looked, somebody got a picture of pun in the corner there. So he always reminds me like, yo, bro, I'm your angel. You know, you ain't doing this by yourself, Joe. You ain't doing it by yourself. So, yeah, we feel like that. Is Lean Back a 1B or a number 2? What do you mean?

In your catalog. Like, what's your best song ever? If I say, I'm not going to say best. I'll say biggest. Biggest, I think, would be What's Love. The best song. Not best. The best. I'll say biggest. Biggest, I think, would be What's Love. The best song. Not best. The best is Lean Back.

Okay. Lean Back is because you know why? It's like Shook Ones, right? It was made, like you said, for the gutter, for the streets, for the this, for the that. And then we had Britney Spears in them singing that joint and Pink in them. I was performing at one time when I did What's Love. I seen no black or Spanish people for like a year. And I was like, yo, when we gonna perform this record for black and Spanish people?

Because be careful of you blowing up. You were jelly roll. You ain't even seeing black or Spanish people. It's like, you know, because they're giving you the bag. You're doing every big coliseum everywhere you don't even know what's going on Toby Keith next to you and what's crazy is

when I did What's Love everything prior to that was just gangster music so if you hire Fat Joe for 20 minutes and I don't care you the whitest guy in America he's cursing for 20 minutes and I don't care you're the whitest guy in America, he's cursing for 15 minutes. He's going bad.

Like, I didn't know nothing else. All I can do is perform gangster music and What's Love. Like, they'd be like, oh, my God, this is the What's Love guy? Like, you know, I mean, it's just the reality of it. Now, I see you jumped into politics a little bit. A little bit. Fat Joe would be in New York one day. No, sir. Yes. No, sir. I see you getting into that game

a little bit. I don't know if it's... Not a game. Not a game. It's price transparency. So me and Power to the Pacers been going to Washington. I went one time. So what's going on is there's a hundred million Americans in debt because

of hospital bills. This right here you could go is $9.99, $12.99. You know the price. You know what the water is. $5.99, $6.99. You go to the hospital, you don't know what they charging you. A kid goes in the

thing for EpiPen. They charge him $16,500. He goes online and Googles it. The EpiPen. They charge him $16,500. He goes online and Googles that EpiPen is only $200. Right? And so you could go to the same. This ain't black or Spanish either. You go in the hospital right now in hospitals all over America, every single hospital. Okay?

They're charging you $2,000 for an MRI. They're charging them $26,000. They're charging $64, dollars for an MRI. They charging him twenty six thousand. They charge on sixty four. Same hospital, same doctors, same tests. I don't think that's right. I don't think that's fair. And so the American people are dying because it is because what happens when you ain't got no family, no, no money to family feuds. We break up the household.

And this is the only thing that's bipartisan so it's republican democrat it's black it's white it's muslim it's jewish everything across the board right so this issue is dear to me i went there three three years ago and i remember a journalist girl said yo fat joe what are you doing here i said well i came for pressure she was like good luck this is washington nothing gets done here i'm like yo i'm like you know we hip-hop we created all this from nothing trillion dollar business you and you live in a castle off a hip-hop do you get that so who's gonna tell you you can't get a law passed or whatever the case my i go back the next year 35 the first year only one politician met with me he's a republican from uh kentucky his name was guthrie said i know what you're talking about you

know i got family that all right cool 35 i went last year was 85 politicians they passed the law in congress that's cool but it says estimates estimates of bullshit estimates ain't the real price we want the price so there's a new law coming from uh bernie sanders and senator braun that says the price like you got to be held accountable for the pricing and so that's my true passion now kamala she different you know she got a sweet spot for fat joe you know i'm saying if the viking yeah man she got a sweet let me explain son of you we keep it real right if you go in the streets they say yo she was the police any gangster if you look at king of new york or any of them walking with their lawyer do you know your criminal defense attorney was a prosecutor?

Every single one of them, maybe 1% weren't prosecutors. It's what you got to go through. You had to go through while and out and all that to get here. Every single lawyer, that's a good lawyer learned experience from being a prosecutor. So you're going to hold her accountable because she was a prosecutor, you know? So you got to know every guy would use a free free johnny boy free the guy you hugging

he put a bunch of people in jail so we can't just hold accountable for that and um and so uh you was with her for uh the marijuana reform yeah but i was just with her because she she i really was there for price transparency i'm'm going to just keep it. No, no, no, no. I was there. She asked me to come moderate the room.

It was about partying. Yeah. Cause it was 11 people there who got partied. That got lost because of you though, Joe. No, you think so? Well,

I'm telling them now at the number one show in America that people were in there. I went there because they were talking about second chances. I, my friends is a walking second chance story. Third chance, fourth chance story. Okay. Fat Joe wasn't this bubbly, nice guy giving to the community, loving everyone.

Come here. I love you, brother. I wasn't that. Right. So I know that you could change. Right. And so when I sit down next to the vice president and when I get there, I don't know about you guys. Let me tell you something.

People just, you know, we flaw so much and all that. We tell a big story. But the truth is, I don't think they know how poor I was growing up. The welfare, the free cheese, the projects, the disc. projects to this so when i walk in that white house with her as i walk in the door i start hearing we shall overcome we shall look we used to sing this thing every day in our schools in the hood now i'm at the president's in the white house of course i'm gonna pull up um and make sure it's positive because it was really all about partners you had one guy who couldn't coach his kids team because he had a criminal past he got

a part and now he could coach his team you got people who had criminal records so the way they get the kids out the game is they'll catch you for drinking beer smoking the blunt in your lobby and you could never get a real good city job if that's what you want to do even though i believe in entrepreneurship i'm into owning your own i see more power in the ladies selling oranges on the highway than somebody who think they got a job you know why they're going to get fired and i don't even like how people talk to me When Um You know I got some jobs That's considered jobs that I don't own And they talk to me funny

Y'all rich you know we paid them You know when they start Talking like that you be like damn I'm Joe I don't have to do it just because you paid me Yeah but it's like it's that thing right Yeah When you feel like y'all damn, I got somebody telling me, you pay you, Joe.

So I don't believe in job security. I believe in being an entrepreneur to create financial freedom. That's my thing. He was on IG Live, and he was saying, with all the stuff going on in Haiti, you feel like nobody's helping them over there because they're the first free black nation. Yeah. What do you mean?

What do you think I mean? I mean, like. They're the first free black people. They rebelled and they took over the country. And I feel like they cursed them and they said, you know what? We ain't never helping them guys. They're the logo. They're the Jerry West of the NBA.

They're the logo of free black people. And so you think it's a miracle that they one hour plane flight away from here and they living under these conditions or something like that. Now that's conspiracy, Joe. May not be true. You know, every now and then I guess conspiracy joe but what i'm saying is once again right this is where i differ with dr umar and listen i agree with him on 95 of the stuff he said yeah i really mess with this guy but when he says hip hip hop don't do nothing. Fat Joe not Haitian but I get up on my IG line

and say listen guys we gotta do something. Nobody else wants to do nothing. Let's go. And you know what hip hop says immediately when I said that? They know they gotta go in their pocket. When Fat Joe says hey we collecting

it's Haiti time. The problem is with Haiti is that it's very corrupt system. And unfortunately for years, people, they get in power so they can steal. And so right now I have to, you know, be careful what you say.

You might step in shit. So now I got to go fat joke, got to do his thing for Haiti. But we're trying to vet and find out who's the legit people that's going to give the people food and stuff. And got to understand it's at war. You can't just walk in there. You know, when I sent the food to a million pounds to Puerto Rico, we went there and we saw them give it out. Like, all right, job done.

I don't know. I don't know if I want to see barbecue out there when I go over there to bring the food over there. I don't want to see them guys out there. They clapping. You know what I'm saying? But for, you know, Rich Flay is Haitian. You know, some of my best friends, my best friend is Haitian. His family's Haitian.

I'm around Haitians all day. So I can't be looking at this devastation. And all I'm talking about is no politics all i'm talking about no politics i'm talking about poverty it's being helping people helping people human like they they starving you know i'm saying so you know just like you heard that the hip-hop community heard it too the higher-ups heard it everybody heard and they like all this fat he coming with the envelope. You know what? I like to do charity that's safe, that you know is going straight to you. You know, when we gave $2 million to the Muslims, 17 of them died in the Bronx last year. You know, we gave it to the mayors.

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and she says, I'll be there. They really do it, but we're trying to get in touch with them. We're trying to get in touch with the right people before I start mine. And also, I said Zoe Dallasallas who's a haitian gotta be up front with me too because you know he's you know i said you know that you know the world asks a lot about us truthfully we're older but we're still that young person we always was since we was a kid. So just insecurities, whatever the case may be. It's a tall task.

But, you know, it's his time. I'm going to help him. I'm going to get the money. I'm going to get everybody donate. We're going to donate. I'm going to donate. But Joey Dollar got to be the face of it because he hates shit. He got to stand up.

That's right. What about Clef? Huh? What about Clef? Clef, my man, we go on with that. You know, I don't know what his situation is. I'm going Zoe Dallas. Wait, wait, wait.

You know what I'm saying? Because I see him out there, and I see he got a lot of respect from the streets. All we want to do is feed people. That's it. That's all I want to do is feed people, let people, yo, eat. You know what I'm saying? Send them food. Send them medicine. Send them this. That's it. That's all I want to do is feed people, let people, yo, eat. You know what I'm saying? Send them, send them food,

send them medicine, send them this. That's it. That's all I care about. You can't run from your destiny, Joe. Fat Joe is going to be the man in New York one day. You got,

I'm telling you, it's just, it's inevitable for you. You don't say it for yourself. I love money. These people don't get paid. You know what's up. You was at the State of the Union.

Mm-hmm. I love politics. As an innocent bystander. You know, but once you start digging up the bones and going in the closet, I don't want that type of problem, man. But you are transparent with everything. You are on record saying, I like violence. Okay, we know. Not anymore.

Not anymore. Kiss babies. How about my daughter just bought a dog We have a new member of the family He's Bear Cartagena he's a problem He's from the Bronx He don't know mansion life he's from the Bronx Let me tell you this guy keep biting me Bit my titty man

Crazy man He's a little fluffy Pomeranian Nah fluffy one of them things Ask Rich what he is He's a little fluffy. Pomeranian? Nah, fluffy, one of them things. Ask Rich what he is. He's a fluffy little dog, man. But this guy's a terror. He take my drawers, run around the house with the shit.

Like, yo, bro, I got to send him to corrective school. You understand what I'm saying? But that fat Joe probably would have kicked him out the house a long time ago. But I'm still trying to deal with it You know but About politics I really I'm not a politician brother He's a Frenchie

A fluffy Frenchie He's a bad boy No he's from the Bronx He's like Pistol Peach He got a knife He came with a knife with him How much you pay for your Fluffy Frenchie He got a knife He came with a knife with him How much you pay for your Fluffy Frenchie Them things high

I don't know Yeah they high I don't know I went and got them all Shout out to the breeder Ask them for her name She from Orlando man We get all our dogs from her

She ain't no joke She in Orlando She the best So she went and got that For my daughter And um And yo Ask them for the name

That's why I didn't get a Fluffy one They was like I saw one for 10,000 I got the regular one No no It's expensive Yeah daughter and um and yo ask him for the name that's why i didn't get a fluffy one he was like i saw one for 10 000 i got the regular one no no it's expensive yeah but that's not the problem yeah the fluffy i want a nice dog there yeah okay that's my problem i had a dog recently died in my arms about a year ago his name was bismarcky but he was a uh what what bismarck was what's the girl's name from Orlando Superior Style Bullies she's the truth

I recommend her all the way but Bismarck he died in my arms right here in Jersey he fell out I rushed him to the hospital he was such a nice dog I come home stressed out and I rub his belly and and i get it you know the man was there for me this guy want to bite me we gotta work on this guy yeah he's

from the bronx there's no other way i want to ask you about laying back again because you know lean back such a classic record you remember the ad-libs right and i remember you shouting out raul i did the the man went there oh he was my best friend and uh most trusted uh friend in the world and uh it was a time where everybody went against me even my own crew it's hard being the leader of some serious guys right and i remember one time and almost went crazy and a man came and stood on my feet he went in front of me and went on my feet like he wasn't touching his feet was on my feet he said anybody move with this guy here it's so for everybody he was looking at dangerous guys but he stopped on my feet

you get what I'm saying like he said ha this the priority you know we going and so you know that was the type of guy he was he's my best friend since high school and that was that was crazy I mean you know it's still, you know, that was the type of guy he was. He's my best friend since high school, and that was crazy.

I mean, you know, it's still crazy, you know. I'm going to get buried by Raul, you know what I'm saying? In Miami, I buried him. We did a beautiful funeral, and I realized going to see him, I said, man, this is where they're going to bury me, right next to my man. His last post speaks volumes because he was bigging you up. He said

if you ran the world, everybody would eat. Everybody would eat. That's what we about. You know, I got a mentor. His name is J.R. Reitinger. He passed away too. He was a billionaire. He taught me everything I know about business.

And his whole concept was we all got to eat. If you eat, I eat. If you're successful, I eat. And so one thing that I know we're getting better at it, but within the black and brown community, it was always like I'm the king of the tower and you're under me. And that's not strength.

Strength is if, you know, we know if he got all the money, but if he ever needed something, he could call Joe. I got him. You know, if I ever needed you for something,

needed you something, that's strength. Strength is everybody eating in their own way. We ain't get, we really don't need nothing. We don't need none. Everybody doing just fine. But if we did you know

that's the real strength like hove said if everybody in your clique is rich that's it nobody everybody shoves crutches that was one of the coves had too many great lines but that was one of the greatest lines ever in hip-hop history because it's the truth people always start you think you something happened to you everybody else is broke everybody else they do what do you what are we doing you know shout out rich player to ask him for the part that he just started the cannabis joint on the 18th grand opening this paint puff pass pink puff yeah i'm the only one don't know the name but it's across the street from Melba's. Harlem. Stand up. Harlem. Right by Melba's.

Cannabis. Well. Paint. Puff and pass. Paint. Puff. And peace. You know. But my brother. Yeah. But it brings me joy to see my brother winning. It brings me joy to see my brothers winning. It brings me joy to know

that he's employing people in the community that look like us you know that's what y'all gotta understand that is the strength you know i say all the time you know we all said we want to get out the projects we want to get out the hood but people get out and never come back you know i'm saying so that's why i try to keep a presence out there and open businesses in the hood and employ single um um single uh parent mothers and you know i got a single parent mother i won't say her name but she called me up she finally understood you know she from the hood we gave the job she's been with us 10 years but she said yo i bought my first house wow and she was so emotional and i felt it and i was like you see this what i was trying to tell you i was trying to

tell you if you rock with the team you're gonna grow you're gonna be a boss you're gonna go to another level but that's the that's the stuff that makes me happy that's right you know i'm saying and you know making sure you know i'm hoping that when all my employees cut their thanksgiving turkey they'd be like yo thanks for fat guy. Yeah. You know, he got us the turkey. That's right. You know what I mean? That's what it's about.

Did you, I know you got a bunch of phone calls when you did your video with the Trump sneakers. Yeah, the Kamala. That's what I was going to say. The Kamala. It wasn't the Flex. The Kamala called you and said. No, it wasn't the Flex. Look, it wasn't the Flex.

You know, I'm a big sneaker collector. It wasn't it. It wasn't it. And so, you know, I own thousands and thousands. I got the rarest sneakers. If Michael Jackson made a sneaker made out of the white glove, I got it. If Prince, I got a sneaker that's made for Prince that Prince never got. Like, I got all the rarest sneakers in America, but that was not the flex.

Did Kamala call you though Nah they know They know where my heart is at That was just it was wrong That's it I told you you was the only person America got it right It was sneaker ass stuff but wrong You know why

Because I'm mature enough to put myself out, stand out the box. Be like, yo, if Cameron would have threw them sneakers up or Fab or one of them, I'd have been pissed at them. Yeah. You know, you know, this guy, you know, you know, you got to come around, Charlamagne. You got to come around, man, because, you know, this guy. See, we have a short. No, no.

We have a short term memory no we have a short term memory we have a short term memory right and we we forget that two years ago we was all like sick of this guy we wanted it and now we want the guy back because when you don't co-sign this side you you like leave it open to like you know you go over there and i don't like the way it felt i did not like the way that time felt when he was you know president i'm trying to get a law passed so i don't want to go too partisan with it but you know what i mean um i tell people that you know he he's a threat to come home man he let an attempt to cool, man. I'm not home. No, no, no. You're home.

I don't feel like that's our home. Let me tell you what it is. This is the one problem I got. And this is with all my friends. Because I got a lot of Trumpers around. Oof. He's not a Trumper. No, no.

I got. Okay. Yeah. But when you stay neutral, what Martin Luther King says, silence is. You know, know he not feeling Joe Biden and Kamala right so you like Kamala damn that's good news that's a breaking

that's a break alright that's a break that's a break in what I thought now but what I'm saying is to say nothing is like to co-sign that right my thing is uh i believe in we all we all made enough money we all from here we want to make more i believe in capitalism but i believe in looking

out for the less fortunate cause right uh my best friends who are republicans and trumpers they said bro you make so much, you want to save in tax. There's a morality clause there for me, where I don't feel good just saving taxes, and I got to deal with... You know, there's two donkeys out here. There's one that you put the thing

on, and if you don't put the saddle on him, he can't walk straight. He's a donkey. Right? We're going to use that clip. No, no. on and if you don't put the saddle on him he can't walk straight he's a donkey right we're gonna use that clip yo listen then there's another donkey you know listen man

you make your choice when it's time man whatever the case may be but I'm just trying to tell you man it's serious times out here and I like to think i'm with the righteous my my mom i'm with the righteous team you know i'm saying that's just what i'm saying and and for all the people who got on me for showing them trump sneakers no no no no no they they ignited the base you know i've never seen hate like this

in my life like viral mania oh he's a sellout you know they was that i'm like damn i wish you guys come out to the polls but you really feel that way but what gets me confused about politics is why this is a scary part of politics four days later i'm I'm with Kamala in the White House. Oh, what you doing with this woman? Oh, yo, what's wrong with these people, man? I'm old enough to know that I'm not a sellout. I'm trying to get you guys a pardon.

Okay? I'm sitting with her navigating, you know, yo, Joe, we giving pardons out. Oh, sure sure I would love to sit next to you for this one right we gonna give some people pardons I do gotta ask though I know you gotta go

you did apologize the other day to a young kid oh no no that was just a that was a regular apologize you know what happened was you know that's why I got in trouble well not in trouble but that's why people got in their panties about the trump sneaker right so the thing about sneaker collecting is it's ego it's like yo

i got the joint you ain't got car can't get sick when i put up something he hit me up y'all you just sucker mayor threatens me we do this worldwide worldwide. It's just like hip-hop. You pull out the sneaker. Oh, everybody's mad, whatever. We love each other. Shout out DJ Clark Kent. And, but, you know, we flex. So a little kid comes up to me, and I didn't realize he was a little kid,

and I flexed on him. Shout out to Lil Jazi. What do you mean you flexed on him? No, I went bad. I got sneakers older than you. When I look back at the video, yo, Solomon, I felt terrible. I'm going to give the kid an interview. No, I'm good.

I swear to God. For Joe and the kid's face. I got sneakers older than you. Older than you. What kind of questions you trying to ask? I'm too cocky. Like, come on, man. Check yourself.

He patrol. Nothing. I was just on my cocky. I went to sneaker con. All the sneaker collectors. He says, yo, let me ask you a question. Why do you mean you ask me questions? I got the sneakers.

I looked at the video. I was in. I got the sneakers. I looked at the video. I was so embarrassed like a week later. He was fired up, man. Yo, ask Rich. Who's the kid? Ask Rich the barber. Who's the kid? Yo, bro.

I looked at that. I said, oh, no. I got to correct myself. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you what. No, no. We got to be very careful. I'm going to tell you why.

I know you work hard. I know you work hard. I know you're tired sometimes. I know you got things to do. People don't know that celebrities really have real life. We're really stressed out beyond the scene. We're dealing with parents that are ill. Who knows? Your kid might just, your kid grew up in a mansion, but now he wants to think he's a gang member and be in the hood,

and now you got to worry about your son. I mean, we worked all he wants to think he's a gang member and be in the hood and now you got to worry about your son i mean we worked all our life to give our kids a great absolutely and somehow they all want to end up in the hood and in the gang trying to trying to be like something they miss right and so sometimes we guilty of being in the airport really really tired and somebody might ask you for a picture or something. And you're just like, yo, I just did 10. I got to chill. You know, I'm in the All-Star weekend.

And I'm walking out. And I see one of my favorite correspondents, Wolf Blitzer from CNN. I mean, I grew up with Wolf. I love this guy. Right? So I see him. And I go, Wolf Blitzer. Almost groupie-like. I'm just going to be honest with you. I've never seen him in my life I see him and I go, Wolf Blitzer, almost groupie.

Like, I'm just going to be honest with you. I never seen him in my life. Was that your wolf? Wolf Blitzer. So he keeps going. His whole team. I mean,

the whole team, the security, the publicist, maybe his daughter, whatever. They ran in front of him. They are, yo,

it's fat. Yo, it's fat. Yo, he looks to the side. I could see him a little bit. He know in front of him. They are, yo! It's Fat Joe! It's Fat Joe! He looks to the side. I could see him a little bit. He know I could see him. I don't care who it is. Let's go! Oh, my. I was sitting there. I said, woof. He was walking away. I said,

woof. And I knew from that moment, I never want to treat one of my fans like that again and that and so the kid probably came up Fat Joe number one sneaker like I got sneakers on I'm trying to find his name I can't find

his name who want to smoke with me what's his name Didier last question I gotta ask you know you talk about all the time how people try you feel try to trick you out trick you out of your position right they want you to punch them in the face they want you to do something for them to take and you said you spent

a long time dealing with that have you ever had conversations with some of these artists to be like it's okay to let it go what happens for instance or somebody else what happens to me is that my life is transparent Gabriel Gabriel my life is transparent. Gabriel?

Gabriel. That's the little kid that does the interviews. I'm going to do one with him. My life is so transparent. So when you see me go on IG and I tell you about I got bullied, beat up, or I write the book of Jose, or I tell them when we won, when we lost. I tell them stories like how I lost $2 million when somebody was trying to give it to me, but I had 30, 40 thugs with me and they stopped.

That's the way I reach out to them. Now, if somebody calls me or somebody talks to me, like, you know, I've talked to the biggest young, like, you know, the Kodak Blacks, the 21 Savages. They ask the OG questions. They do reach out. Okay. They be like, yo, OG. And sometimes I don't mind my business if I see Lotto

who I love right if I see her about to get into something I hit her with the DM be like sis keep that moving don't been through there been there done that and she be like oh thank you OG I had to hear this and so you know I always reach out

to the young kings and queens that's moving and be like, oh no, we got to go. Cardi B, I be like, no, no, no. You got to keep that moving. I've been through every jam. You know, I learned. Right? And I appreciate you guys for just

keeping it about subject matter. But it was a young guy. It was a young guy. He? It was a young guy. He went to the radio. I don't know who he is. I owe him so much money. Right? He's a young rapper.

He went up there. He had a project out. I think this was in LA. Let's just get New York out to clear. And he went in there. He went to talk about his album. They said, yo, man, what's up? You're a rapper such and such.

He said, yo, man, I don't really know that, brother. I'm here to talk about the new album. Right? Kept going. What about rappers such and such? He said, bro, this is how you jam us up and you start us going against each other. I'm not here for that. I'm about my album.

And I watched the on-air personality and said, well, if we just talking about your album, we ain't really got nothing to talk about. That was the end of the interview. But from that young dude, me, an OG, I learned so much from that young kid. I owe him money is what I'm trying to say because I used to come up here and just like, Joe, what about you? Go get him. Do this. Do that. go get him do this do that and I'm sitting here and when I look at my

old interviews I was like I was just an automatic go like it was like anything you said to Joe he gonna run out and you know a crash dummy just straight up a crash dummy like what do you think about let's go I don't care you know

that's who you were. It's not like you was up here lying. Like, no, no, no. But what happened to me one time that, that you gotta be careful because your words are powerful and I'm really not

trying to, but it's, it's his perfect example. East coast, West coast. I'm really tight with Biggie Smalls. I do know Tupac Shakur, right?

I know that's weird to the young kids listening, but Biggie's my man, my man, my man. Right? Family since day one. And Tupac, I know him. We cool. But I get up here and they do it to me. What do you think about the East Coast, West Coast?

Yo, I don't know, man. But if somebody talked to me, it's on and popping out here. Like we can get it popping this Whatever they want this this Now Tupac's in jail Doing time up in New York Spanish cats hear that And they start making him feel real

Uncomfortable in jail now Right Mutabal could tell you The story right So Tupac reaches out to me And says yo Joe Put him on the phone I think it was me and says yo joe put him on the phone i think it was greg nice from nice and smooth put him on the phone he's like yo i got tupac so bless you he's like i got tupac and i yo what's up he's like yo joe i you know i'll fuck with you you know my beef with them is this and this and that he's like you know they're making it real uncomfortable for me

in here the spanish dudes it's like you got on the radio, send a kite, you don't rock with me. So I had to send a real kite to the Spanish dudes in there and say, yo, yo, I don't really have a problem with them. Like, don't do that. You know what I'm saying? They wind up being cool with him in there. And, you know, and so he always said to his crew and everybody, like,

yo, Fat Joe, you know, he held it down. But you got to be, your words are very powerful. And they could cause real situations out there without you even knowing. That's right. So you got to be careful. But Joe got to go, guys. Joe Crudak. April 2nd to Apollo.

That's right. Get your tickets now, Fat Joe. I mean, it's all doubt. But if you can get one to buy from a scalper. No, I'm just, people tell me, Terror Squad, we a different DNA. You see how Khaled move? See how I move? I don't take nothing for chance.

If my sneaker came out, I wouldn't get a sneaker to anybody who would take it. That's right. To make sure it's sold out. I'm not. Thank you, brother. Thank you. The point is, I'm going to put in that work. So,'s sold out. I'm not. Thank you, brother. Thank you. The point is, I'm going to put in that work.

So the Apollo sold out already. Congratulations. But I'm still making my rounds to let y'all know you're going to miss something that is an all-time high in New York. It's a billion dollars on the stage

at one night at the Apollo, April 2nd. I don't know how else to tell you. I don't know who else is coming. J-Lo coming out, I'm sure. It's gonna get dumb. I can't confirm them. But in the world of hip-hop, there is nobody who's not

calling the phone talking about, we pulling up. You know, the Khaled, the whole Philly coming, the Beanie Seagulls The this this that Anybody you could think of on the planet The Mob Deeps The Kims

They won't stop Like your OG we gonna salute you We gonna see how smooth It's just not Gonna stop You might see You might gonna stop you might see you might of course you might see out of nowhere

girl I've been thinking about you all day long we going real 88 on them we going real 90 it's getting dark I mean all I keep saying every time my phone goes down all I hear is that

Bay Area song. Dum, dum, dum, dum. I swear to God, that's the theme song of this show is I just keep hearing dum, dum. You know how they get hype? Dum, dum, dum. I can't believe it. I'm sitting. Let's see how this happens.

We're going to see Lil Gabriel. Huh? Lil Gabriel coming. No. No, no, no, no, no. I don't really know him. He know you. He know the music. Yeah, I don't know him, but anybody

I do know, man, they coming. It sounds like it's going to be two nights. No, it's one night. One night only, baby. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. I can't ask for favors every night. Apollo budget ain't like that.

Come on. Let's get real. We ain't making no money. This is culture. This is one night only. You know what I mean? It's Fat Joe coming back to his home, the Apollo Theater, and we're going to just leave it all on the floor.

And I just think that we need a good time. That's right. We just want to have a good time, smoke your shit, drink your shit, have fun if you don't get high i don't get high so we good right but just come in there and enjoy and be in the moment you know you could you could film whatever you want but i'd rather you just be in the moment because it's going to be one of them nights in new york city history that you're never going to forget if you're in the building yeah And if you're not in the building,

you're going to be sick. Because they're going to be calling you. Like, oh my god. You might just be chilling out of nowhere and you hear, gee, you. Boom! We can get it. Boom! We can get the drama popping. Boom, boom, boom! It's going down.

Manny, man. Y'all never performed together, right? Yeah, we did. We performed together right I'm not saying I'm just trying to say in the hip hop wish list That's what I'm trying to tell you He's a billion dollars on the stage It could be anybody They might just come through gliding like

You know what I'm saying What I can tell you is not a single person I have called has said no That's all I'm saying Not one person I have called has said no. That's all I'm saying. Not one person. I said, you know, you might be in there and go, milk is chilling. Gizmo's chilling. What more can I say?

You're selling this shit and it's already sold out. That's crazy. What did you make it say? Rewind. Pull up. Pull up. It's going to be a lot of pull up. My Jesus.

No, no. It's going to be shout out to DJ Ted Smooth. He's going to be DJing the whole joint. Shout out to Ted Smooth. You know he earned that. You know what I'm saying? All the DJs hit me up. They want to get on.

And Ted Smooth told me, he said, they wasn't with you shooting in the gym. Right. And I said, yo, I looked at Ted and I said, wow, that whole COVID I did the Fat Joe show. Ted was up there DJing with me. I said, you right. You deserve this. Let's go. Ted and

Slay, the only ones that deserve that. The rest of you Slay up. Absolutely. Joe Cradack, always a pleasure, my brother. Thank you so much. It's the Breakfast Club Fat Joe. Let's get it. Take that ass up. The Breakfast Club. Fat Joe. Let's get it. Take that ass up. In the morning. The Breakfast Club.

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