The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Funny Marco Talks Comedy Career, G Herbo, Bobbi Althoff, Drake, Fatherhood; Baby Momma's + More
Episode Date: October 31, 2025Today on The Breakfast Club, Funny Marco Talks Comedy Career, G Herbo, Bobbi Althoff, Drake, Fatherhood; Baby Momma's. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omn...ystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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                                        The breakfast club.
                                         
                                        You're all finished or y'all's done.
                                         
                                        Morning, everybody.
                                         
                                        It's DJ Envy,
                                         
                                        just hilarious.
                                         
                                        Shalermaine the guy.
                                         
                                        We are the breakfast club.
                                         
                                        Long of Roses here as well.
                                         
    
                                        We got a special guest in the building.
                                         
                                        I'm sure he's nervous.
                                         
                                        Why?
                                         
                                        This man had canceled on us twice three times.
                                         
                                        He gets nervous.
                                         
                                        I'm sure he's nervous.
                                         
                                        That's a lot.
                                         
                                        You did cancel on us.
                                         
    
                                        It was only one time.
                                         
                                        Twice.
                                         
                                        No, it was not.
                                         
                                        Twice.
                                         
                                        It was twice.
                                         
                                        It was twice.
                                         
                                        I don't know about the other time.
                                         
                                        That was probably a team reaching out to me that I didn't have.
                                         
    
                                        Funny, Marco, ladies and John.
                                         
                                        What's up?
                                         
                                        What's up?
                                         
                                        You can tell you with that.
                                         
                                        You got blueie tucked on the side of you.
                                         
                                        I'm so used to, uh...
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Margo, you've built a career off making people uncomfortable.
                                         
                                        I know how you start out.
                                         
                                        When is the last time you were uncomfortable on camera, Marco?
                                         
                                        I know what you're going to say.
                                         
                                        No, no.
                                         
                                        But no.
                                         
                                        I don't, it, never.
                                         
                                        Okay, one time.
                                         
    
                                        When was the time?
                                         
                                        When did you get in come?
                                         
                                        When did you get it?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        I remember, but I don't want to say it.
                                         
                                        You don't want to say it.
                                         
                                        No, you can say it.
                                         
                                        I don't remember.
                                         
    
                                        It just came back to me.
                                         
                                        you said it to me just not.
                                         
                                        I mean, you can say it.
                                         
                                        It was when you was with G. Herbal, right?
                                         
                                        It wasn't nervous.
                                         
                                        It was just they trolling.
                                         
                                        I should have matched they trolling.
                                         
                                        And I learned a lot in that, in that spot.
                                         
    
                                        Like, I could have said something.
                                         
                                        I could have spoke up, but I was just so, like, in character.
                                         
                                        They were doing their job.
                                         
                                        That's how they troll.
                                         
                                        So it was just two of them.
                                         
                                        My ain't used to.
                                         
                                        All right, one is cool.
                                         
                                        It's all like them.
                                         
    
                                        It's two of them.
                                         
                                        So I didn't match their energy.
                                         
                                        So from that interview, I learned just to speak up.
                                         
                                        Even if it's your show, you know, just stop it.
                                         
                                        like y'all let's get on scripting yeah you what I learned they thought you was gonna come a
                                         
                                        certain way yeah yeah so that's why they came with that type of energy yeah yeah yeah because let's get
                                         
                                        back on script because you troll so yeah I'm not necessarily troll because I don't speak on facts
                                         
                                        sometimes troll is like you know how to talk and you like trolling but I can make up some shit that
                                         
    
                                        you're like I can create some shit this got to be in you like the you know the you know the emm
                                         
                                        store right right I don't really call when he does trolling and like you I don't know because you
                                         
                                        I told you I never seen you
                                         
                                        you DJ still to this day. He don't.
                                         
                                        Damn. But I don't know why they call him DJ.
                                         
                                        Oh, my.
                                         
                                        He used to DJ.
                                         
                                        Speak up, envy.
                                         
    
                                        I have never, he's never that book for a time.
                                         
                                        I don't know. I'm saying how I make money on the side.
                                         
                                        But you know what I went on this show? He was flirting with me heavy. And I told him I have a
                                         
                                        man, shawler man. He was like, I don't care. I'm not his man.
                                         
                                        This you are.
                                         
                                        You gay? You're not gay.
                                         
                                        Yes, no. Why would you just say it like that if I was?
                                         
                                        No, no, no. I never. But you got a thing. So you put it. I don't know. I'm just
                                         
    
                                        if I was how you asked. I wouldn't tell you. Oh, got you, got you. I wouldn't
                                         
                                        I'm just asking.
                                         
                                        But he said he was flirting with you.
                                         
                                        He was.
                                         
                                        He was.
                                         
                                        He was.
                                         
                                        He was flirting with him.
                                         
                                        He was.
                                         
    
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        He wasn't trying to take me out.
                                         
                                        If I was gay, he would not be my time.
                                         
                                        What you like?
                                         
                                        Oh, okay.
                                         
                                        Jalen hurts.
                                         
                                        He's cool.
                                         
                                        Okay, okay, okay, yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Jaylon hurts is.
                                         
                                        I see what you're doing.
                                         
                                        What does he have with me?
                                         
                                        I'm just curious.
                                         
                                        What does he have over me?
                                         
                                        No, you like a Frenchie a little bit.
                                         
                                        Oh my God.
                                         
                                        That's my favorite type of this.
                                         
    
                                        I don't say it was ugly.
                                         
                                        I just said Frenchie.
                                         
                                        So was he a pit bull?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        What's he?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        That's his type.
                                         
                                        So the funny in your name is not because you're gay.
                                         
    
                                        That would be your type.
                                         
                                        I'm sorry.
                                         
                                        So the funny is not because you're hilarious is because you like funny, funny.
                                         
                                        It just came from Kansas City.
                                         
                                        Somebody just called me like, Funny Marco, that was my name, Marco.
                                         
                                        Got you, got you.
                                         
                                        You know, funny, it used to be a gay slur back in the day.
                                         
                                        Yeah, like you funny acting?
                                         
    
                                        I guess.
                                         
                                        What was that movie?
                                         
                                        You mean I'm funny?
                                         
                                        Like, funny, funny, funny, funny.
                                         
                                        You don't remember?
                                         
                                        I didn't think I'm a clown.
                                         
                                        So that was just like, it was a situation.
                                         
                                        in the movie don't say it was a slur like everybody
                                         
    
                                        know about that no Baltimore you didn't know
                                         
                                        none of no I didn't know none of it but you're young
                                         
                                        slur no yeah you're not yes you're 30 what
                                         
                                        33 oh oh oh god
                                         
                                        damn don't play with you Markov
                                         
                                        no I'm sorry god damn don't play through
                                         
                                        no I know you come my son
                                         
                                        38 is crazy no no I know how do you
                                         
    
                                        no I'm 32 what yeah I look 39
                                         
                                        don't you don't do that damn
                                         
                                        no
                                         
                                        Damn.
                                         
                                        Yo, what's up with you all today?
                                         
                                        I definitely thought.
                                         
                                        What you thought?
                                         
                                        I was older.
                                         
    
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Don't do that because I really like you.
                                         
                                        Please.
                                         
                                        I like you too.
                                         
                                        I got some fake pages.
                                         
                                        Don't do that.
                                         
                                        I thought you were, because I'm 33.
                                         
                                        I thought you at least like 37.
                                         
    
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        I mean, all right.
                                         
                                        You're very well established.
                                         
                                        Don't do that shit.
                                         
                                        But I will.
                                         
                                        You've been around for so long.
                                         
                                        Damn.
                                         
                                        In your defense.
                                         
    
                                        A lot of people do say that I love.
                                         
                                        A lot of people say I do look older.
                                         
                                        It ain't about you.
                                         
                                        You don't look at a certain age.
                                         
                                        It's just how you act.
                                         
                                        You know how to carry yourself.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I get what you said.
                                         
                                        I literally just said that to you and you got met.
                                         
    
                                        It's different from women.
                                         
                                        But I do, you have mastered awkward energy, and I do think that's a skill.
                                         
                                        Do you think it's a skill?
                                         
                                        Or you think it's just like childhood trauma with a camera.
                                         
                                        Just to know how to do it and when to turn it off.
                                         
                                        And that was one thing in the interview of G.
                                         
                                        G. Herbert, I was like, well, this is going to stop.
                                         
                                        And there's going to be able to take it.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, I know.
                                         
                                        That's what I said.
                                         
                                        It was, it was.
                                         
                                        He don't.
                                         
                                        don't do that because he might be fluid overall like I said in the situation I was just
                                         
                                        overthinking they didn't do nothing wrong you know what I'm saying so it was me
                                         
                                        overthinking and I didn't I'm not used to like checking shit sometimes if I ever
                                         
                                        get like I just shut up and just leave I ain't that nigga that I don't think it needed to
                                         
    
                                        be checked no I'm just saying how you feel not in the wrong way like all like it's
                                         
                                        okay to just say all right y'all let's talk like all right let's get on script you know
                                         
                                        it's okay that not checking like me how you feel right now I feel blessed I feel alive
                                         
                                        not nervous how do you feel in this
                                         
                                        moment like what do you want is anything you want to tell us I want to know how you
                                         
                                        feel no I didn't come out I'm not used to like pre-thinking so when I think I say
                                         
                                        what I want to say right in the minute I'm not pre-thinking like I'm gonna say if I do
                                         
                                        have something to say I forget about it so I'm like you know I'm not like a pre-nigger
                                         
    
                                        you don't like pre-cum yeah no I pre-cheat sometimes I have what's pre-cheat
                                         
                                        when you set up some shit just in case you're going to work out what so you already
                                         
                                        you go into a relationship banking on and I
                                         
                                        I said, no, I said if pre-cheating is weird, like, it's just, you ain't doing shit, but it's just like, you have it set up. Like, save me some shit on the side, bomb me up. That's some young shit. That is certainly some young shit. What I'm saying, I said I have, not no more.
                                         
                                        Okay. Are you in a relationship now?
                                         
                                        Nah.
                                         
                                        Okay, because I saw Sierra trying to help you.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        That was pretty.
                                         
                                        You fuck Lala up.
                                         
                                        You could have had Lala.
                                         
                                        She was asking you up a date?
                                         
                                        Could you have had Lala?
                                         
                                        Oh, no, that's right.
                                         
                                        He liked in a relationship?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, sorry.
                                         
                                        You got no taste.
                                         
                                        You like Star Wars?
                                         
                                        Hmm?
                                         
                                        Huh?
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        You called Chewbacca?
                                         
                                        He tried to call me Jaja Bags.
                                         
    
                                        Huh?
                                         
                                        Chalameen dog.
                                         
                                        You're an amazing person.
                                         
                                        You're my sister.
                                         
                                        You always fly.
                                         
                                        What do you really look good?
                                         
                                        I have she carried herself.
                                         
                                        She knows how to talk, dress.
                                         
    
                                        What about it in hell for y'all just
                                         
                                        What happened with you with you with Lala?
                                         
                                        I thought you were trying something
                                         
                                        A Lala is really, really good
                                         
                                        What happened?
                                         
                                        She was trying to throw you something and say
                                         
                                        hollering, you just...
                                         
                                        No, she wasn't.
                                         
    
                                        No, he was trying to shoot a shot.
                                         
                                        She was allowing you to shoot a shot.
                                         
                                        What's going on with you?
                                         
                                        No, it's just
                                         
                                        Lala is one of the people that really
                                         
                                        I can say an industry friend that helps you out.
                                         
                                        Right?
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
    
                                        Trying to cut the attention.
                                         
                                        between him and envy the sexual
                                         
                                        attention is crazy
                                         
                                        Indy is staring through that man
                                         
                                        What the hell
                                         
                                        Indy you're laughing on
                                         
                                        The way you're turning
                                         
                                        You're blushing
                                         
    
                                        Why are you blushing
                                         
                                        You're blushing
                                         
                                        Indy was staring at him
                                         
                                        All I kept hearing was take me through that
                                         
                                        Take me through that
                                         
                                        I'm like what you're going on
                                         
                                        What's wrong with you?
                                         
                                        Jealous?
                                         
    
                                        This is the person I've ever seen you jealous
                                         
                                        I was just crazy
                                         
                                        You was jealous
                                         
                                        Marco
                                         
                                        You know you'd be doing those things
                                         
                                        Where like you fake talk to the women
                                         
                                        Like how you would date them
                                         
                                        What you did with Sierra?
                                         
    
                                        Do it with
                                         
                                        envy real quick. Just if you ever
                                         
                                        were interested, how would you? No, I wouldn't be
                                         
                                        interested. No. Okay, I like that honesty. Yeah,
                                         
                                        I wouldn't be. And I don't think he would be either, so it's
                                         
                                        even, right? No, you like chocolate.
                                         
                                        Yeah, not.
                                         
                                        You like chocolate? I'm not gay. How about
                                         
    
                                        that? I'm not gay. How long you've been in a relationship?
                                         
                                        She got two. Good question. I don't have two. I don't have two. I have one
                                         
                                        and it's, it's fresh. It's been some months.
                                         
                                        We still got a shot. No, he doesn't still have a
                                         
                                        a shot. Oh, damn. Don't say it like that. Not like that, but just like, I'm good
                                         
                                        where I'm at. Yeah, I know. Your language was changing around that guy, too. I just want
                                         
                                        you to know about a couple months ago. I'm getting married. That's like, oh, it's been
                                         
                                        a couple of months. He asked how long have I been in a relationship. He didn't ask if we were
                                         
    
                                        getting married. What do he do for a living? That's too much question. The same way he goes
                                         
                                        to a job for a living. Okay. He's a barber. That's fine. Barber's a good. Barber's
                                         
                                        getting money. That way he stayed fresh. Yeah, they're talking like 200 to cut. He helped me,
                                         
                                        you know all the stuff comes in the barbershop
                                         
                                        he knows what's going on so he sends me like topics
                                         
                                        and stuff you know how that guy how'd you out me he cut your hair
                                         
                                        damn
                                         
                                        he aren't professional now all right on
                                         
    
                                        he knicked her right here
                                         
                                        show the way he nicked you
                                         
                                        you
                                         
                                        he could have died
                                         
                                        I was at saying I'm at the daddy man
                                         
                                        she could have died
                                         
                                        I got a dirty man.
                                         
                                        He didn't cut my hair.
                                         
    
                                        But you know Lala, I'll be playing with you, though.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I know.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        You thought that he knew she was serious.
                                         
                                        You think I'm my eight-year-old?
                                         
                                        I just said, I don't know.
                                         
                                        I just asked.
                                         
                                        You knew it was no way.
                                         
    
                                        Ask Marco your favorite question.
                                         
                                        Congratulations on your relationship.
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        My marriage.
                                         
                                        I don't know what's going on with you.
                                         
                                        But, you know, thanks everybody.
                                         
                                        But I said something on in and there really say, what do your wife look like?
                                         
                                        Nobody never knows.
                                         
    
                                        That's good.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        That's how you should keep it.
                                         
                                        No, I feel like if you're happy with something, it's okay to just say, hey, here we go.
                                         
                                        No, I think that if you're actually happy with something, that's for you.
                                         
                                        No, because if something ever happened to you, we could check on her.
                                         
                                        We could be like, how you doing her?
                                         
                                        I don't want y'all to check on her.
                                         
    
                                        Y'all ain't our emergency contact.
                                         
                                        That's your problem.
                                         
                                        Y'all be treating the internet like it's your emergency contact.
                                         
                                        No, it's okay to check on her to be like, oh, you are, and not can show her pictures.
                                         
                                        Like, blah, this is why I took over him.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        You can show her pictures?
                                         
                                        Yeah, like, you disproved.
                                         
    
                                        I remember, I can just say, I remember I met her he was a cool dude.
                                         
                                        You can just, she can get, you know, no.
                                         
                                        Something happened to somebody in the family.
                                         
                                        And they always remember it, show pictures and stuff.
                                         
                                        That man killed you.
                                         
                                        He won't kill you all so fast.
                                         
                                        Yes, he definitely trying to kill you.
                                         
                                        Envy, ask Marco your famous question.
                                         
    
                                        How'd you get here?
                                         
                                        Yeah, how'd you get started?
                                         
                                        How'd you get started, Michael?
                                         
                                        He didn't even remember.
                                         
                                        People do we want to know your beginning.
                                         
                                        So let's do a real interview.
                                         
                                        So let's tell it for the beginning.
                                         
                                        How do you get into comedy?
                                         
    
                                        That's the question.
                                         
                                        Just being inspired by other people that do comedy.
                                         
                                        That makes sense.
                                         
                                        Oh, nice.
                                         
                                        Who is some people that's funny?
                                         
                                        It was in school.
                                         
                                        I struggled in school.
                                         
                                        So it started with that.
                                         
    
                                        I'm disliked
                                         
                                        And
                                         
                                        You did what?
                                         
                                        You did this?
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
                                        This is not a safe place
                                         
                                        If you're doing it
                                         
                                        It's not a safe place
                                         
    
                                        It's not a safe place
                                         
                                        It's what you dissed
                                         
                                        Who do you disliked
                                         
                                        Disset
                                         
                                        Disset
                                         
                                        Dish
                                         
                                        Dang
                                         
                                        So you
                                         
    
                                        Why'd you disheom?
                                         
                                        No I'm saying I'm
                                         
                                        You know what I'm going right
                                         
                                        Yes
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        I know you really care
                                         
                                        I can look at child to
                                         
                                        Right
                                         
    
                                        I'm not here
                                         
                                        It's like a distraction
                                         
                                        Right here
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        So you're
                                         
                                        And you struggle with dyslexia.
                                         
                                        I'm getting it.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
    
                                        Give him time.
                                         
                                        He just told you he's.
                                         
                                        That doesn't mean he's slow.
                                         
                                        Got an ailment.
                                         
                                        No, my.
                                         
                                        Yeah, so struggling with reading and spelling.
                                         
                                        So being, going through school with that, you just have to accept who you are and you're going to get picked on but find a funny in that.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
    
                                        That's where I feel like it opened up.
                                         
                                        You're from Kansas City.
                                         
                                        The crazy thing, I didn't know anybody from Kansas City.
                                         
                                        I knew of the football team.
                                         
                                        Eddie Griffin.
                                         
                                        Eddie Griffin from Kansas City?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I did not know that.
                                         
    
                                        Damn, I never thought about it.
                                         
                                        Tech 9.
                                         
                                        Tech 9 is from Kansas City.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I did not know that.
                                         
                                        I did know Eddie Griffin was from there.
                                         
                                        But that's actually one of my favorite cities to come to to do comedy.
                                         
                                        Y'all love comedy in Kansas City.
                                         
                                        Because a lot of states that be depressing, that's what they show up.
                                         
    
                                        Like, you know, they show up at Baltimore, too.
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
                                        Baltimore is fine.
                                         
                                        It is.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        We good.
                                         
                                        It's a city that's like, you know.
                                         
                                        We're not a down depressed city.
                                         
    
                                        We are up.
                                         
                                        No, we turned up in Kansas City, too.
                                         
                                        No, you are.
                                         
                                        It streets and some real.
                                         
                                        street shit going on. Okay. All right, so look, let's
                                         
                                        stay on this real quick. So what is, all right,
                                         
                                        so you're from Kansas City, Missouri or Kansas City, Kansas?
                                         
                                        Kansas City, Missouri. Okay, because
                                         
    
                                        every time I used to, I know,
                                         
                                        they get upset with that. They are very
                                         
                                        upset with that, but you can literally throw a rock
                                         
                                        from one place to the next.
                                         
                                        Like, y'all so close, but y'all can't stand each other.
                                         
                                        I don't understand that. It's the same thing, like, with New York
                                         
                                        and Jersey, don't get it confused. Like, people
                                         
                                        don't like, drops in New York.
                                         
    
                                        You can't get that confused, though.
                                         
                                        No, we're cool in New York.
                                         
                                        No, people be trying to put it together.
                                         
                                        North Carolina.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Carolina is like,
                                         
                                        nah.
                                         
                                        We'll be getting New York all together.
                                         
    
                                        They think it's one thing, but it's so much different.
                                         
                                        Like, I just thought New York was one thing, but it was like, I'm from the Bronx.
                                         
                                        No, I'm from here.
                                         
                                        It's different.
                                         
                                        Damn, I just don't understand.
                                         
                                        Y'all's so close.
                                         
                                        They're 20 minutes apart.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        But it's still like, you just can't get it messed up.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        So who heard you and then decided that you should do a podcast?
                                         
                                        Because you started a podcast really early.
                                         
                                        How did that come about?
                                         
                                        Where break, they reached out, and they was like started a podcast.
                                         
                                        And it was hard for me because I'm like, I don't know how to spell.
                                         
                                        read her right and i know you got to do that so i just wanted to go in and do something
                                         
    
                                        no it was the breath i thought you were why you're laughing i swear i tried on it in
                                         
                                        you took the breath after and yeah yeah no man i ain't got nothing to spell nothing like
                                         
                                        like even right now at your age i mean because i know you've been dealing with this all your life
                                         
                                        i know three letter words i'm not really good at spell i'm not the only one it's a community of us out there
                                         
                                        No, for sure.
                                         
                                        I know in this community, and that's why I'm not.
                                         
                                        I promise I wasn't laughing at you being.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, it's a community out there.
                                         
                                        You've got to be careful.
                                         
                                        So you've never tried.
                                         
                                        It's just hard.
                                         
                                        So, but when you do your interviews on open thoughts, you know, you have cue cards.
                                         
                                        Don't be on it for real.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        Man, you are crazy, man.
                                         
    
                                        You are a crazy guy, Marco, man.
                                         
                                        So what happened with you in the white girl?
                                         
                                        Bobby, what's the last name?
                                         
                                        Bobby.
                                         
                                        No, stay on open thoughts for a second.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
                                        Because what happened with Breakbeat?
                                         
                                        It was a good company.
                                         
    
                                        They sued you, right?
                                         
                                        Oh, God.
                                         
                                        You knew you were coming.
                                         
                                        It was me learning a business, too.
                                         
                                        It was something that I needed.
                                         
                                        I need to get in there and learn a business.
                                         
                                        For sure.
                                         
                                        Understand how people work,
                                         
    
                                        and your feelings don't matter when it comes to contracts.
                                         
                                        And I had to learn that.
                                         
                                        I'm glad I learned at the age I did.
                                         
                                        Y'all figured it out?
                                         
                                        You work it out?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But how did they expect you to read a contract?
                                         
                                        Oh, boy.
                                         
    
                                        You know, I'm saying, why didn't you go in with that?
                                         
                                        Like, hey, guys, I struggled with the Lexia.
                                         
                                        You can't tell people that when they're trying to, yeah,
                                         
                                        then they're really going to probably throw some big words in there.
                                         
                                        You can't even tell a lawyer that because a lawyer might take advantage of you.
                                         
                                        Exactly.
                                         
                                        So, y'all might not have to air this interview.
                                         
                                        Oh, wow.
                                         
    
                                        Posting stuff on the wrong YouTube channel.
                                         
                                        You probably didn't read.
                                         
                                        You didn't know which channel was.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it was.
                                         
                                        And then it was also, no, it was also some words that was saying, oh, you can.
                                         
                                        So it was that.
                                         
                                        And then also, words don't matter when it comes to what's on paper.
                                         
                                        But you shouldn't assign that paperwork work without a lawyer?
                                         
    
                                        I didn't.
                                         
                                        I know.
                                         
                                        You had to learn.
                                         
                                        It's some stuff that you didn't get, you know, you didn't fucked up in your career.
                                         
                                        I mean, honestly, I mean, with the reading and stuff, but you know.
                                         
                                        I mean, it's respectfully business wise.
                                         
                                        No, but that's only because I had a lot of people around me early.
                                         
                                        And I watched, you know, just other people make mistakes.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, but smart people learn from the own mistakes.
                                         
                                        Yeah, but other people.
                                         
                                        You know, so, and being that I, I thank God that I got on when I got on, because I got on a little later.
                                         
                                        So I was able to watch a lot of other people make those mistakes and have the right people around me.
                                         
                                        me to keep me from you know kind of those bad contracts and stuff like okay
                                         
                                        who was helping you like when you were figuring out the content journey and like
                                         
                                        you were making those mistakes was there anybody you was calling like hey youtube is doing this what
                                         
                                        does this mean that's a good question uh not uh Ryan Ryan Davis I'll talk to my
                                         
    
                                        and that's uh and that's what the stand up and stand up I feel like when you first get
                                         
                                        on Instagram you start getting followers people think you should just go straight to
                                         
                                        stand up and they talk about money and that was one thing like shout out to Issa Avo he was like
                                         
                                        go go get the paper.
                                         
                                        And one thing about your career, you can't chase money.
                                         
                                        You know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                        You got to work for it.
                                         
                                        So I'm just glad I did, you know, how I did and everything, how I was supposed to,
                                         
    
                                        because if I started standing up at age, you got one time to do something really good.
                                         
                                        And once people know that you're doing it for money, they're looking at you different.
                                         
                                        You won't, it won't be the same.
                                         
                                        Well, so why did you announce that you had signed a deal for $8 million for your podcast?
                                         
                                        I was bored.
                                         
                                        Was that true?
                                         
                                        It's okay.
                                         
                                        No, sometimes I like to manifest stuff.
                                         
    
                                        I love that.
                                         
                                        I knew you was lying when you said it, but yeah.
                                         
                                        Damn.
                                         
                                        See, he's worth that?
                                         
                                        No, I'm not, it's not about what he works.
                                         
                                        No, he read through lies because he lie.
                                         
                                        Yeah, he does.
                                         
                                        No, I troll.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Okay, well, I was trolling.
                                         
                                        I knew that when I said it, but see, here's the thing,
                                         
                                        that messes up the game, you know, because people will leave you.
                                         
                                        That's fine.
                                         
                                        And then me being in the podcast business, now people come to me and be like,
                                         
                                        well, Funny Marco got $8 million, and I'm like, I can't,
                                         
                                        I don't want to see like, no, he didn't.
                                         
    
                                        I'm just saying, but stuff got to change.
                                         
                                        You know, NBA contracts to change from a long time,
                                         
                                        so we should have started getting paid that.
                                         
                                        Yeah, but you know why the NBA contracts changed?
                                         
                                        because the NBA started making a lot more money.
                                         
                                        And podcasts are making a lot of money.
                                         
                                        There is really not.
                                         
                                        Some companies are.
                                         
    
                                        Some companies aren't.
                                         
                                        Yeah, but I'm just saying it's, you know, should be there.
                                         
                                        How close to eight, what's the number you actually sold it for?
                                         
                                        You know, podcast a performance base.
                                         
                                        Remember, I told you I don't read, so I don't know.
                                         
                                        Damn, podcast a performance base.
                                         
                                        So you can look at somebody's audio downloads and know what they're supposed to be getting.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        That makes sense.
                                         
                                        That's another reason I know you this.
                                         
                                        like this is called the breakfast club and I never see nobody eating
                                         
                                        nobody that is not true nobody carral be here no yeah I don't serve breakfast to
                                         
                                        nobody I'm hungry you hungry this nigga said golden corral be here
                                         
                                        every now and in no grotto and we can't no I'm fine you just said you hungry
                                         
                                        now this is because you asked damn
                                         
    
                                        he's like I don't want to eat nothing you are offering
                                         
                                        it was just how you said it like now you're not a sausage I eat it
                                         
                                        Like, we was in prison in my respect.
                                         
                                        Crazy.
                                         
                                        I just seen the moment.
                                         
                                        It was like, it was kind of weird.
                                         
                                        That was very smart, Michael.
                                         
                                        You got good instincts.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, I was just like, I'm all right.
                                         
                                        That's good instincts.
                                         
                                        So what happened with you and Bobby Altope?
                                         
                                        How did y'all get close?
                                         
                                        After we did the interview, it went, it went up.
                                         
                                        And the thing about the interview, I never talked about this.
                                         
                                        What went up?
                                         
                                        The interview went up.
                                         
    
                                        And then I remember Drake, he commented on it.
                                         
                                        And when Drake commented on it, I said, I'm a DM Drake and asked him come on my show.
                                         
                                        and I DM Drake
                                         
                                        he's seen it
                                         
                                        and left me on red
                                         
                                        and then
                                         
                                        Bobby called me
                                         
                                        was like
                                         
    
                                        oh my God
                                         
                                        I got a
                                         
                                        spot from Drake
                                         
                                        no damn
                                         
                                        I was like
                                         
                                        I was like
                                         
                                        should I do it
                                         
                                        I'm like yeah
                                         
    
                                        fuck
                                         
                                        that would be your
                                         
                                        no
                                         
                                        I wouldn't say
                                         
                                        supposed to
                                         
                                        but you know
                                         
                                        because everybody
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
    
                                        he can go anywhere
                                         
                                        you want
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        but overall
                                         
                                        just with that
                                         
                                        when she did it
                                         
                                        and her success
                                         
                                        turned up
                                         
    
                                        it was like
                                         
                                        oh like damn
                                         
                                        like that was really
                                         
                                        a great thing
                                         
                                        And overall, just me learning not to...
                                         
                                        I've always been a person that look up to my brothers and everybody,
                                         
                                        look up to people that have more than me.
                                         
                                        So I never...
                                         
    
                                        It's hard for me to hate because I grew up with...
                                         
                                        You know, if you had it, I got it.
                                         
                                        You know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                        I used to borrow people clothes, borrow money.
                                         
                                        So I never really had shit for real.
                                         
                                        So just seeing her success go up, I was happy for.
                                         
                                        Don't look up to people just because they got more than you, though.
                                         
                                        Look up to people because they got good character.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, that too.
                                         
                                        I'm just saying it's a lot of reasons to look up to people, you know?
                                         
                                        So it's not just one reason.
                                         
                                        We was just speaking on that one.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But, uh, go ahead.
                                         
                                        I was going to say you guys decided to do something together going to
                                         
                                        yeah we did yeah on tour so what's going on tour
                                         
    
                                        we was going to do like a live you know a live thing where people can see us
                                         
                                        but I feel like I was hard on her because I was already in the midst of doing stand-up
                                         
                                        and I'm like stage present it's something you gotta just grow you just don't have it
                                         
                                        so me already doing it I was I was in mind for how she felt I'm like when we get out there
                                         
                                        we really got to you know show them like again once you hit that stage
                                         
                                        you got to really care about who in front of you that's right and I was
                                         
                                        hard on her. Now that I stop
                                         
                                        and think, I'm like, damn, I was really a jerk.
                                         
    
                                        No, you weren't. You should have been hard on her. Treat her
                                         
                                        great-grandfather would have treated you. Dang.
                                         
                                        Oh, my good. Damn.
                                         
                                        Yes. Treat her to way her great-great-grandfather
                                         
                                        would have treated you. So what I'm trying to say is,
                                         
                                        so what I'm trying to say is, you know, once you hit
                                         
                                        the stage, all of us, it's different.
                                         
                                        So from the internet and being on stage, you got
                                         
    
                                        to keep doing that to earn that. And I'm still
                                         
                                        learning that, too. So every time I
                                         
                                        hit the stage, if it feels new
                                         
                                        and you get the bubble gun. But you can tell her personality,
                                         
                                        wasn't that.
                                         
                                        That's her thing.
                                         
                                        She was trying to do you.
                                         
                                        She was trying to do what you do.
                                         
    
                                        No, she's her.
                                         
                                        She's her.
                                         
                                        But there are fans that feel like you kind of,
                                         
                                        she took what it is that you do and took the ball and ran with it and has been able to
                                         
                                        like do things so much faster.
                                         
                                        Oh, wow.
                                         
                                        I'm, I'm just, no, that's a conversation.
                                         
                                        People feel like it's unfair.
                                         
    
                                        I don't think so.
                                         
                                        I'm just telling me the conversation that it's being had.
                                         
                                        She doesn't feel like it's happening and it's unfair because it's only happening because she's
                                         
                                        white.
                                         
                                        But she's not popping.
                                         
                                        I mean, not on your level?
                                         
                                        No, everybody got their own definition of popping.
                                         
                                        Let's start there.
                                         
    
                                        Bobby does well, though.
                                         
                                        So what I'm trying to say is,
                                         
                                        it's not, in my eyes, back to what you're saying.
                                         
                                        That's how you got the point where we talk to.
                                         
                                        But you know, black people go on the show those.
                                         
                                        I'm saying that don't go anybody else to show.
                                         
                                        Again.
                                         
                                        Wait, let him finish.
                                         
    
                                        Do black women content creators get mad at you because you decided to empower a white girl?
                                         
                                        Damn, why?
                                         
                                        It wasn't my fault.
                                         
                                        You don't black women?
                                         
                                        I mean, people, when they put it out, people choose to watch it.
                                         
                                        You know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                        So there wasn't nothing that I put a person narrative.
                                         
                                        That was her plot.
                                         
    
                                        There's black women content creators.
                                         
                                        That's true.
                                         
                                        You don't like black women?
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
                                        What are you serious?
                                         
                                        You're like, moms?
                                         
                                        Me and her sit down to talk.
                                         
                                        What does that mean?
                                         
    
                                        What did you're calling her?
                                         
                                        You didn't do a collaboration with them.
                                         
                                        Exactly.
                                         
                                        You ain't put her on.
                                         
                                        You didn't empower her.
                                         
                                        What about other black women content creators that you could have empowered?
                                         
                                        I can work with anybody.
                                         
                                        Who do you like me to work with?
                                         
    
                                        No, you want to say it.
                                         
                                        Why would you grab that stuff?
                                         
                                        I don't leave him a lot.
                                         
                                        No, no.
                                         
                                        Why didn't you?
                                         
                                        I still like 40 Marco.
                                         
                                        I'm just asking the question.
                                         
                                        This is crazy.
                                         
    
                                        No, it's not.
                                         
                                        We're just asking us.
                                         
                                        Simple question. Do you feel that way? You ask me a quick question. You can't read. I can't hear. I don't even know what just happened.
                                         
                                        All right. Okay. So they're asking me questions about when Bobby asked me to come on her podcast, right? And I did the podcast. Not expecting nothing. And it did what it did. It had nothing to do with me.
                                         
                                        You don't know your power. Are you crazy? Now, I do disagree.
                                         
                                        Yeah, you don't know. Because that was my only gripe with it is like how you come out and say she's stiff, she dry. I don't want her on tour because she's telling you. I didn't say it like that. Well, you.
                                         
                                        I say it was kind of, it was dry, and I wanted her to talk more, and it was, you know, you called her a milk cricket.
                                         
                                        You knew what you endorsed when you, you knew what it was. You knew what it was. You know what it was. You know what it was wrong. You know what it was when you signed up. It worked for her. And it's like you invited her to the cookout. Exactly. And then you stepped away from her. So I just felt like you should have known your power in that moment. And if you didn't want to empower her and put her on these stages, why do that? Because there are other people you could have. No, no. So. And what I'm saying, and if you heard me when I first started talking, it was something. And what I'm saying. And if you heard me when I first started talking, it was.
                                         
    
                                        something that I needed to do. I learned from that.
                                         
                                        You know what I'm saying? So being on stage and doing the podcast is two different things.
                                         
                                        I shouldn't open the let's go on tour. You know what I'm saying? So that's where that was my
                                         
                                        fault. But again, it was something that could have went left or right. But even sitting down
                                         
                                        with her on her show. Like I know it's just like collaboration or whatever, but you said you
                                         
                                        didn't know it would happen. No, I just sit down. It was just, I don't know.
                                         
                                        He gave her credibility and she took Drake. And you got her a Drake interview. That's crazy.
                                         
                                        That's fine. But what I'm saying, I just sit down and I just sit down. I just did me. I didn't
                                         
    
                                        expect nothing. I didn't want nothing from me. I didn't ask for no money. It was just
                                         
                                        just doing it.
                                         
                                        I don't think it was a bad idea for you to suggest a tour between you and her.
                                         
                                        I don't think that because, like you said, it's two ways it can go.
                                         
                                        Bad or good, you know.
                                         
                                        I don't think you giving her the criticism of, you know, just suggesting that she opened up a little bit more was bad either.
                                         
                                        I don't believe that.
                                         
                                        I think it was something that you canceled the tour and she didn't know or something like that.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, it was me.
                                         
                                        I did not communicate.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So that's what I had a problem with.
                                         
                                        I don't have a problem with anything.
                                         
                                        Because I think if it was done right,
                                         
                                        you on Bobby's tour would have went crazy, right?
                                         
    
                                        I believe in that for sure.
                                         
                                        I doubt it.
                                         
                                        But it was just the fact that she didn't know.
                                         
                                        You didn't even talk to her before you cancer.
                                         
                                        Which I didn't.
                                         
                                        I was wrong on that.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I think we're giving her too much problem right now anyway.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, where those shows, those shows weren't doing well, though.
                                         
                                        But your shows by itself do well.
                                         
                                        No, it didn't even get too far.
                                         
                                        Because right when you hit the stage, you care.
                                         
                                        me being you know doing stand-up
                                         
                                        every time I get out the stage
                                         
                                        I always think about what can I done better
                                         
                                        I just don't think about how it's over
                                         
    
                                        because I know I'm ready to get back on there
                                         
                                        and I got to get back there next weekend
                                         
                                        so I'm always in my head of thinking
                                         
                                        what can I do better
                                         
                                        so you did a show with her and you was like
                                         
                                        damn what can I do better leave her home
                                         
                                        wow this dude is so good
                                         
                                        have you two spoken
                                         
    
                                        yeah we spoke okay
                                         
                                        so y'all are good now
                                         
                                        yeah so her last interview with Drake
                                         
                                        I don't
                                         
                                        I'm ADHD so I really don't even watch
                                         
                                        small and you write down everything you got man
                                         
                                        I wish I could write it down
                                         
                                        oh my god
                                         
    
                                        my bit Marco because
                                         
                                        what? Hey man I just dropped
                                         
                                        the book you can't even get it what
                                         
                                        wow wow you said that you can't read
                                         
                                        you can do the audio book you got an audio book
                                         
                                        oh you know yeah you can listen
                                         
                                        yeah I listen to 50s audio book I love it
                                         
                                        it's your voice too yes it's gonna be my voice
                                         
    
                                        uh huh yeah that'll be good to hear you read
                                         
                                        wow damn damn what's the biggest misconception people
                                         
                                        I've been helping his dad since he's been up here, and he's going to say that.
                                         
                                        I feel like when you get seen as, I don't know, when they see you as your content,
                                         
                                        they just think of you as that sometimes.
                                         
                                        And being a dad and being somebody that care about people, it's just like, it come off as I don't.
                                         
                                        And some people, I thought you was an asshole.
                                         
                                        And I was like, even when I sit down with Nikki Minaj was like, what's your intentions?
                                         
    
                                        And I'm like, what this interview?
                                         
                                        Where are you going with it?
                                         
                                        I was like, I just want to talk.
                                         
                                        And like, just let it lead into wherever it lead into.
                                         
                                        And, yeah, it was, and then I got told, too, it was like, like, I'm trying to embarrass somebody.
                                         
                                        And I think because my clips that I put out, I know how to make good clips to go look at the real interview.
                                         
                                        You're like, oh, damn, that didn't happen.
                                         
                                        So some of my clips, I make it look like, it was awkward, like, what the fuck does happen?
                                         
    
                                        But when you see it, they really respond.
                                         
                                        So I just know how to promote my clips.
                                         
                                        But that's your favorite interview?
                                         
                                        Yeah, that was like when we sit down, when I said about Eminem, like, and they sit down, it was like, that didn't happen.
                                         
                                        but it just overall just knowing how to see like you're favorite one on Nicky was your favorite
                                         
                                        interview that you done yeah in Orlando Brown yes I was about to ask you what see in your top do you
                                         
                                        have what a top five uh yeah I mean yeah but I'm just saying Orlando Brown was different and sitting
                                         
                                        down and just Orlando and Ray J was hilarious yeah that was crazy yeah it was funny because I was trying
                                         
    
                                        to get Ray J and Tyrese and Ray J was like yeah let's do Tyrese he was like he was like Tyrese he was like
                                         
                                        Tyrese called me one time
                                         
                                        and he left a voicemail
                                         
                                        talking about, by the way,
                                         
                                        one wish was trashed
                                         
                                        and he was like,
                                         
                                        I don't know what the fuck
                                         
                                        that was about.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, wow.
                                         
                                        And he was like,
                                         
                                        he wanted to talk to him,
                                         
                                        so.
                                         
                                        Did you reach out to Tyre?
                                         
                                        Yeah, I just never heard from Tyrese.
                                         
                                        It was right when he was doing y'all,
                                         
                                        it was around at the same time
                                         
    
                                        and he was up here with y'all.
                                         
                                        I love Tyrese is my guy.
                                         
                                        I love Tyrese and Ray J.
                                         
                                        I'm telling you right now
                                         
                                        Tyrese takes himself too serious
                                         
                                        to ever sit with you
                                         
                                        to do that type of interview.
                                         
                                        That's even funny.
                                         
    
                                        I'm telling you that right now.
                                         
                                        No, no, that would make a funny though.
                                         
                                        He didn't do it, but he wouldn't do it with somebody else.
                                         
                                        No, that would be funnier.
                                         
                                        He would take himself too serious.
                                         
                                        Like, when he comes up here, where's he from?
                                         
                                        You're from Watts.
                                         
                                        California.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Like, he knows us and, you know, we got a rapport.
                                         
                                        Just comfortable.
                                         
                                        Yes, but with the way you do your style of interviewing,
                                         
                                        I don't think Tyrese could handle that.
                                         
                                        I can respect that.
                                         
                                        You don't think so?
                                         
                                        I would love to see it.
                                         
    
                                        I think time would be good.
                                         
                                        I mean, Ty is good.
                                         
                                        Anybody that goes on the show and takes it too serious is always the funniest.
                                         
                                        Right, but I think he's loosened up a lot.
                                         
                                        Pause.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I think he asked.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
    
                                        Do y'all do, like, pre-interviews with the guy?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        Just sit down.
                                         
                                        Literally.
                                         
                                        Why was it right in your top five, though?
                                         
                                        Interviews.
                                         
                                        You said, Nikki, you said, like, my interview with you?
                                         
    
                                        It's not that.
                                         
                                        I still don't know what you do.
                                         
                                        Like, I saw of this.
                                         
                                        Damn.
                                         
                                        I mean, you're a good person.
                                         
                                        I know how to, like, you know.
                                         
                                        A DJ.
                                         
                                        He is a good person.
                                         
    
                                        I never seen you DJ in my life.
                                         
                                        He'll father, too.
                                         
                                        He up all the.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I know that.
                                         
                                        He's nobody daddy.
                                         
                                        I like seeing you scream though
                                         
                                        I like seeing you on the Twitch and everything
                                         
                                        because I feel like that's not the character
                                         
    
                                        like you with your daughter
                                         
                                        when I saw you at Screamer University
                                         
                                        I'm like see that's Marco
                                         
                                        you know what I mean
                                         
                                        and I think that that Marco was enough
                                         
                                        yeah you know you got some sides
                                         
                                        that's like you you're not the same person sometimes
                                         
                                        you know I think a lot of people got different
                                         
    
                                        facades you're not the same person
                                         
                                        in a lot of different
                                         
                                        predicaments that you are in, you know?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        I mean, at the end of the day,
                                         
                                        like, if somebody, you know,
                                         
                                        if you had your grandma funeral,
                                         
                                        you're not going to be this
                                         
    
                                        if I walk up to you and talk to you.
                                         
                                        I didn't go to my grandma funeral.
                                         
                                        I didn't go to my grandma funeral.
                                         
                                        He didn't like funerals.
                                         
                                        Oh, that I understand.
                                         
                                        We're just in a sad moment, right?
                                         
                                        I'm not going to mind if I can help it.
                                         
                                        I believe you.
                                         
    
                                        You can't.
                                         
                                        You wouldn't have a choice, Leonard.
                                         
                                        You got with yours.
                                         
                                        You could get cremated.
                                         
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                                        Hey, I'm Cal Penn, and on my new podcast, Here We Go Again.
                                         
                                        We'll take today's trends and headlines and ask, why does history keep repeating itself?
                                         
                                        You may know me as the second hottest actor from the Harold and Kumar movies, but I'm also an author, a White House staffer, and as of like 15 seconds ago, a podcast host.
                                         
    
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                                        I live below a cult leader, and I fear I've angered her.
                                         
                                        Well, wait a minute, Sophia.
                                         
                                        Adia knows she's a cult leader.
                                         
                                        Well, Dakota, luckily it's I'm not afraid of a scary story week on the OK Storytime podcast, so you'll find out soon.
                                         
                                        This person writes, my neighbor's been blasting music every day and doing dirt rituals, and now my ceiling is collapsing.
                                         
                                        I try to report them, but things are.
                                         
    
                                        keep getting weirder. I think they may be part of a cult?
                                         
                                        Hold up, Sophia. A real-life cult? And what is a dirt ritual? No clue. But according to this person,
                                         
                                        contractors are tearing down the patio to find out what's going on with their ceiling and her
                                         
                                        neighbors are not happy. Well, she needs to report them ASAP. She did. And now they've been
                                         
                                        confronting her in really creepy ways all the time. So do we find out if this person survives
                                         
                                        their neighborhood cult or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the
                                         
                                        the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
                                         
                                        In the new podcast, Hell in Heaven, two young Americans moved to the Costa Rican jungle to start over.
                                         
    
                                        But one will end up dead.
                                         
                                        The other tried for murder.
                                         
                                        Not once.
                                         
                                        People went wild.
                                         
                                        Not twice.
                                         
                                        Stoned.
                                         
                                        But three times.
                                         
                                        John and Ann Bender are rich.
                                         
    
                                        and attractive, and they're devoted to each other.
                                         
                                        They create a nature reserve and build a spectacular, circular home high on the top of a hill.
                                         
                                        But little by little, their dream starts to crumble, and our couple retreat from reality.
                                         
                                        They lose it. They actually lose it.
                                         
                                        They sort of went nuts.
                                         
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                                        When I die, my wing's going to come on, and I'm going to shoot off in the end.
                                         
                                        Oh, you bet not do this.
                                         
                                        What you mean?
                                         
                                        You bet not do this.
                                         
                                        Yo.
                                         
                                        I'm not going to be like, y'all remember the repast when the guy was in D.C. hanging in the club?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        Please don't do that to me.
                                         
    
                                        I already got it in my trust and will and everything.
                                         
                                        I'm pre-mated. I ain't going to be at my funeral. Y'all can be there.
                                         
                                        That's sad.
                                         
                                        What are you like with your baby girl?
                                         
                                        Because I know she brings you a lot of excitement and joy and I know.
                                         
                                        You got three.
                                         
                                        I didn't know yet.
                                         
                                        I mean, I had a baby boy, girl.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        What's the oldest?
                                         
                                        12.
                                         
                                        Oh, you've been wrong.
                                         
                                        Oh, wow.
                                         
                                        Nice.
                                         
                                        It's just, I didn't know that.
                                         
                                        I don't, it's, and, you know,
                                         
    
                                        shout out to the, you know,
                                         
                                        women don't play about their kids,
                                         
                                        and I wish my daughters could stay with me,
                                         
                                        but I just got to, you know,
                                         
                                        I'm going to visit dad, and I hate that.
                                         
                                        Sometimes it's like,
                                         
                                        damn, can they come stay here
                                         
                                        and I'll fly you out here and let y'all spend time.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But that's not how I go when mothers are just so used to
                                         
                                        carrying them and they don't want to,
                                         
                                        you know,
                                         
                                        pass it on so uh because milian is in kansas city and then prize that's my son here in
                                         
                                        la so it's like a lot to be and then island is in alena so i be with her a lot because she there
                                         
                                        and it's like you know there's no excuse for me not to be with her 24-7 the mothers don't want the
                                         
                                        kids like on social media and stuff like that the other two uh no i posted them they on there
                                         
    
                                        and you know they try to like oh she's your favorite but i'm like she's here with me
                                         
                                        i try to get them and that was just like i try to get my son and she was just like oh how long you'll keep
                                         
                                        for a week. And I was just like, no, I want to get, let me get in for a couple months. Like,
                                         
                                        you had them. Let me get him for a couple months. But I got to respect. It's just a mama
                                         
                                        in her. Like, you just got to just take it. But then also it's school and things like
                                         
                                        that, but like, he only won. Oh, oh, this is a fresh one. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I mean,
                                         
                                        but like you said, because it's a new baby. But I'm still, I need, we need to have time to
                                         
                                        you. Y'all need a break. Why can't I get him for a couple months? And you said you wanted
                                         
    
                                        to bring her too, so she would still be there close as well? I'm, she,
                                         
                                        can come when she want to come but I just don't just to tell me to get them for a week
                                         
                                        that's like I'm a babysitter but your relationship with like with you I'm cool I would love
                                         
                                        all my baby mama so you love more yeah they all black no I got one I got one I got one I got one
                                         
                                        I got one black one I got one I got one I got one I got one I know that's right yeah
                                         
                                        that's why you would just connect yeah yeah are you concerned about the Mexican one
                                         
                                        and no I'll be concerned about nothing because it's just like whatever you do you
                                         
                                        don't find out yeah I told you it's a lot of uh you
                                         
    
                                        Is she a citizen?
                                         
                                        You wouldn't even know ICE was coming.
                                         
                                        I mean, tell you something.
                                         
                                        If she keep playing with you and your child,
                                         
                                        all you got to make one phone call.
                                         
                                        No, she's cool.
                                         
                                        All I'm cool.
                                         
                                        All I'm cool.
                                         
    
                                        All I'm cool.
                                         
                                        But look, so why not take the week over nothing,
                                         
                                        you know, especially if she's not allowing you the months?
                                         
                                        You know what I mean?
                                         
                                        I got to.
                                         
                                        Take that week.
                                         
                                        You know, it's...
                                         
                                        Baby steps.
                                         
    
                                        I get it.
                                         
                                        But when you grow without a father,
                                         
                                        it's like, it's a big thing that hurt you.
                                         
                                        Like, you really want to be that.
                                         
                                        So just to tell somebody a week,
                                         
                                        it's like visitation.
                                         
                                        You know, like jail time.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I did, but he was in and out of the streets.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, okay.
                                         
                                        Got you.
                                         
                                        So you ready to settle down?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Why are you looking for besides Lauren?
                                         
                                        Because you said Lauren, is that like you're tight?
                                         
                                        Yeah, Lauren is very beautiful.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
    
                                        Lauren didn't have a father either.
                                         
                                        Oh, my gosh.
                                         
                                        My dad is around.
                                         
                                        I respect her relationship.
                                         
                                        Shout out to that.
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        I appreciate that.
                                         
                                        Yeah, shout out to him.
                                         
    
                                        Lauren father was in and out of her life, too.
                                         
                                        I'm trying to make your bond right now.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it ain't going to happen.
                                         
                                        Oh, okay.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        It's just friends.
                                         
                                        So awkward
                                         
                                        No, it's good
                                         
    
                                        He needs to feel some awkward silence
                                         
                                        He doesn't do this to everybody else
                                         
                                        He doesn't feel some awkward silence
                                         
                                        Everybody just be quiet for a second
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        That's fine on me
                                         
                                        Well, let's talk
                                         
                                        You want more kids than Nick Cannon?
                                         
    
                                        Nah
                                         
                                        I want to adopt though
                                         
                                        I want to adopt
                                         
                                        What kind of baby?
                                         
                                        Two
                                         
                                        What color?
                                         
                                        I want an African baby
                                         
                                        and Asian baby
                                         
    
                                        Black baby
                                         
                                        Yeah like Rushire
                                         
                                        Did you say what color?
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
                                        You know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                        My car
                                         
                                        He said like rush hour
                                         
    
                                        That's funny is shit
                                         
                                        You know your grandma got like the
                                         
                                        Your mama is the hood side
                                         
                                        And your grandma side
                                         
                                        It feels like family like I'm getting like
                                         
                                        I could be professional
                                         
                                        I pray that you get them babies bro
                                         
                                        I would love to see you on Instagram
                                         
    
                                        With the black one in one hand
                                         
                                        Asian one another
                                         
                                        And the caption just said rush out
                                         
                                        Oh my God
                                         
                                        Be funny
                                         
                                        You hear me
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        I hate this place
                                         
    
                                        Oh my God
                                         
                                        Please do that
                                         
                                        It's proper steps you gotta go through
                                         
                                        So he got
                                         
                                        You want to tell the adoption agency
                                         
                                        Like I'm trying to go for a rush hour
                                         
                                        I mean if they ask you'd be honest
                                         
                                        But overall you're building a bond
                                         
    
                                        And you're building like you know
                                         
                                        And it's also some good kids out there
                                         
                                        That could just use help
                                         
                                        You're right
                                         
                                        For sure
                                         
                                        You ain't got to create all the time
                                         
                                        I already seen what it's like
                                         
                                        So it's okay then
                                         
    
                                        I would have like to be
                                         
                                        You know picked up
                                         
                                        Why you think Shanna's shop got so mad
                                         
                                        When you said he looked like Ms. Nettah?
                                         
                                        That was kind of wild
                                         
                                        Because it was just out of the blue
                                         
                                        It was out of the blue
                                         
                                        I felt like we was having a good conversation
                                         
    
                                        And I threw a jab
                                         
                                        And you know, it didn't know it was coming
                                         
                                        So I don't think it was a jab
                                         
                                        I think it was a valid question
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        I mean but they say we both look like
                                         
                                        Ms. Netta from Don't know
                                         
                                        No you definitely don't
                                         
    
                                        I'll go with the seal of it all
                                         
                                        But not
                                         
                                        Why did you say
                                         
                                        Why'd you drag the name out
                                         
                                        I said you made sure I heard that shit
                                         
                                        You said certain number of other words
                                         
                                        Are hard for you
                                         
                                        She just has a seal
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, but she just dragged it out.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, well, see you.
                                         
                                        That would be a better.
                                         
                                        All right, there we go.
                                         
                                        But no, I don't think you look like missing it at all.
                                         
                                        We don't need to tell me what we look like.
                                         
                                        Let's get away from that way.
                                         
                                        You do sound like Big Sean, though.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Boy.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        When you talk, you sound like.
                                         
                                        He's very educated, though.
                                         
                                        You saw you.
                                         
                                        Yeah, no, you are, I, you are smart.
                                         
                                        You are very smart.
                                         
    
                                        The one thing I do really like about you, Marco, you made viral moments without shouting
                                         
                                        are really being extra.
                                         
                                        You got like it's a quiet confidence to what you do
                                         
                                        Because being that character
                                         
                                        You can break it any moment
                                         
                                        Like you let G Herbo then break you
                                         
                                        But for the most part
                                         
                                        You got that quiet confidence
                                         
    
                                        And you stay in character
                                         
                                        Shout out to them
                                         
                                        G Herbo doing this thing
                                         
                                        What did you learn from that moment?
                                         
                                        I told what?
                                         
                                        What's the moment?
                                         
                                        Just to speak up
                                         
                                        And it's okay
                                         
    
                                        Just to speak up
                                         
                                        That was it
                                         
                                        Because they was doing their thing
                                         
                                        And they never did nothing wrong
                                         
                                        And it was just me
                                         
                                        I didn't know
                                         
                                        I'm like I'm just thinking
                                         
                                        It was just personal
                                         
    
                                        Like then that I do something wrong
                                         
                                        Right
                                         
                                        I was just like you know
                                         
                                        So, again, me thinking too deep,
                                         
                                        that's why it's not good to think sometimes
                                         
                                        it's okay to speak up.
                                         
                                        So overall, just being a man
                                         
                                        and I'm grown in my 30s,
                                         
    
                                        I should have been able to speak up
                                         
                                        and say something because I'm growing.
                                         
                                        You know, I'm not a little kid.
                                         
                                        What do you feel like when you talk to people?
                                         
                                        I would like to sit down and talk to G.R.
                                         
                                        But we just go over and overall just had that conversation.
                                         
                                        I didn't like what he was dealing with afterwards.
                                         
                                        After the interview happened,
                                         
    
                                        I said I wasn't going to drop it.
                                         
                                        And somebody on my team said they want to drop it,
                                         
                                        but now I look back on it.
                                         
                                        I think they were lying.
                                         
                                        They wanted it out
                                         
                                        I didn't want it to come out
                                         
                                        Because I knew right when that happened
                                         
                                        I was like it's not going to come out
                                         
    
                                        Because I didn't want that
                                         
                                        Impression of them
                                         
                                        That's not what my goal
                                         
                                        You don't like the way people came
                                         
                                        I didn't like that
                                         
                                        I didn't
                                         
                                        You know so again that's my fault
                                         
                                        I gotta take account
                                         
    
                                        Like it's my platform
                                         
                                        It was like damn you know
                                         
                                        But again I was like
                                         
                                        How I can move on from it
                                         
                                        I just post the next interview
                                         
                                        And then I did Kevin Hart
                                         
                                        And then you know
                                         
                                        In that situation
                                         
    
                                        I got a DM
                                         
                                        And I never talked about this
                                         
                                        I thought I shared with y'all
                                         
                                        Like NBA young boy DM me
                                         
                                        And he was just like
                                         
                                        Oh you okay
                                         
                                        And I'm like yeah I'm cool
                                         
                                        We built a relationship.
                                         
    
                                        I mean, he's a cool dude.
                                         
                                        And it was just like, you know, I liked a lot from that.
                                         
                                        And I was like, bro, he really is a...
                                         
                                        He me a young boy is really a cool dude.
                                         
                                        And, like, on his birthday, like, bought me a watch.
                                         
                                        I'm like, damn, this thing is really, like, really different.
                                         
                                        You know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                        What kind of game and stuff?
                                         
    
                                        It was a...
                                         
                                        What kind of watch was it?
                                         
                                        It was a...
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        I'm not good at it.
                                         
                                        Have NVDMU, are you okay and bought you a watch?
                                         
                                        You think he's trying to fuck?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
    
                                        No, because you got to be...
                                         
                                        You got to want that to happen sometimes.
                                         
                                        I don't want to manifest that.
                                         
                                        Like, for me to...
                                         
                                        think he trying to do that that's what i probably won't but that's my thing though do you still
                                         
                                        like not you know do you feel like you now owe him the cheeks or something just because okay
                                         
                                        you're you thinking like that that's no that's like you if somebody do something nice for you you
                                         
                                        don't think that they automatically trying to fuck but they probably don't know who it is absolutely
                                         
    
                                        they most likely you can't judge people sometimes some people just want to get you a gift
                                         
                                        no not all the time no both y'all are right yeah you know but as you said just depends on who it is
                                         
                                        Yeah, you just got to know who you are and know who the people are.
                                         
                                        Sometimes, you know, like I said, if we're in jail, you might be my bump and I don't know you,
                                         
                                        and you're talking about that I want something to eat.
                                         
                                        I'm not taking it because I don't know what your intentions are.
                                         
                                        Let's pretend.
                                         
                                        Let's pretend.
                                         
    
                                        You're on the bottom bunk.
                                         
                                        I'm on the top bunk.
                                         
                                        Are you okay?
                                         
                                        I'm not, I'm going to tell you fuck no.
                                         
                                        I'm not going to go crazy.
                                         
                                        Why are you on the top?
                                         
                                        Why are you not on the bottom?
                                         
                                        Because I think people get, I think you got to get.
                                         
    
                                        You're up now.
                                         
                                        I think it's, when you go to jail, I think it's, uh, who can't get on top.
                                         
                                        Ain't in, like, leadership?
                                         
                                        Who usually get, like, the leader.
                                         
                                        Yeah, like, the leader is on top.
                                         
                                        No, I think you get bottom.
                                         
                                        I think it's bottom.
                                         
                                        No, no, no, no.
                                         
    
                                        So you want to be a bottom?
                                         
                                        No, no, I'm trying to figure out that when you go to jail.
                                         
                                        It's like, it's, like, it's, it's, it's, it's.
                                         
                                        What would you want to be top of bottom?
                                         
                                        No, I think you can get pulled down when you sleep.
                                         
                                        Oh, so you're buying something.
                                         
                                        That's what I think I heard.
                                         
                                        So you want to be a bottom.
                                         
    
                                        I don't want to go jail, nigger.
                                         
                                        No, no, yeah, we don't want to go to jail.
                                         
                                        Hypothetically.
                                         
                                        No, they're not hypothetical.
                                         
                                        Okay, okay.
                                         
                                        I'm not doing shit to go to jail.
                                         
                                        Got you, got you, got you.
                                         
                                        Sound like a bottom, though.
                                         
    
                                        No, it's don't.
                                         
                                        I like that.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, bottom of my bed at home, yes.
                                         
                                        You know, you bottom in your own bed.
                                         
                                        Yeah, what?
                                         
                                        Oh, Jesus Christ.
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
                                        Oh, my God, because that could get clipped.
                                         
    
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        That could get clipped.
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
                                        Whatever you do in your house is,
                                         
                                        I ain't judging you.
                                         
                                        Man, okay.
                                         
                                        I fuck with you, Marco.
                                         
                                        Whoa.
                                         
    
                                        Uh-uh, come on.
                                         
                                        This is crazy.
                                         
                                        Stop.
                                         
                                        Whoa.
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
                                        That's crazy.
                                         
                                        Those, so, have you and Jeremiah spoke?
                                         
                                        Because I know the last thing I saw, you jumped in that man, DM and told him that you don't really like his song.
                                         
    
                                        I said, I said, no.
                                         
                                        I said, what did the couch mean?
                                         
                                        Because he says, it's your birthday.
                                         
                                        You know it's time to ride out, even if we sit on our couch.
                                         
                                        And I'm like, if it's her birthday, why are you inviting her to a couch?
                                         
                                        At your house.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Like, come on, like, take her out to eat or something.
                                         
    
                                        Then the couch.
                                         
                                        He didn't say nothing about eating.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        He just said, it's your birthday.
                                         
                                        So I want to know what was so special about the couch.
                                         
                                        Like, in any, he's a bed.
                                         
                                        He's a couch.
                                         
                                        Yeah, he's basically saying, like, you know, think about it right now, like what the troubling economic times.
                                         
    
                                        People may not have money to do things.
                                         
                                        No, back then, he said this shit a long time ago.
                                         
                                        I know, I know, but I don't know what this financial situation was when you wrote that song.
                                         
                                        He got money.
                                         
                                        Well, yeah, because he says sit Moezy as you sit on my couch.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        By the one, I'm at $30 in the store.
                                         
                                        Go get it, bring it back to the house.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Sit on the couch, drink.
                                         
                                        I mean, well, I just want to know what kind of couch it was.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        And he didn't answer you.
                                         
                                        You haven't spoken to him?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        Does it bother you when they get serious?
                                         
    
                                        Like, you know, you just really want to know an answer to a question and they get upset with you.
                                         
                                        Nah, because it's like, oh, raw, that's not my intentions to make you mad.
                                         
                                        So I just feel like, you know, when I see you, you'll understand it.
                                         
                                        And I'm not a street person.
                                         
                                        You ain't going to really take it that serious.
                                         
                                        I think they're going to go on about their life.
                                         
                                        They're a good person.
                                         
                                        They DM you back on purpose because they know you're going to repost it.
                                         
    
                                        They know it's going to be.
                                         
                                        They're doing that on purpose.
                                         
                                        Sometimes, yeah.
                                         
                                        I think so.
                                         
                                        Go ahead.
                                         
                                        No, you do it.
                                         
                                        No, go.
                                         
                                        No, you do it.
                                         
    
                                        Did Neo ever DM you back?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Yeah, Neo, yeah.
                                         
                                        Neo don't be playing.
                                         
                                        Because he asked Neo why Neo was dancing in the house on sexy love when it was a
                                         
                                        she noticed is on the door.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's just the videos.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, if you watch the videos.
                                         
                                        I don't get some people visuals.
                                         
                                        The way you're trying to make sexy eye that Lauren is so stupid.
                                         
                                        That is.
                                         
                                        That's what I was thinking.
                                         
                                        I thought he was thinking.
                                         
                                        But that's what Phil used to do on the stage.
                                         
                                        He used to do that, squinsize when you're saying.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        That's what you was doing now?
                                         
                                        No, I wasn't.
                                         
                                        I told you, I respect your relationship.
                                         
                                        Appreciate you.
                                         
                                        Big time.
                                         
                                        But do you respect your relationship?
                                         
                                        I respected, first of all, use it.
                                         
    
                                        Okay, thank you sure.
                                         
                                        Yes, you respect yours.
                                         
                                        Hey, you never cheated?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I've got my wife for 27 years.
                                         
                                        You cheated while you was married?
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Unfortunately.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, I get it.
                                         
                                        It wasn't you.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that was a different, definitely was a different version of me.
                                         
                                        Yeah, but he just evolved.
                                         
                                        It was definitely a different version.
                                         
                                        But what did you learn from that?
                                         
                                        I learned that if you really, truly love someone,
                                         
                                        you would not ever put them in a position.
                                         
    
                                        No, you would never put them in a position to want to have to make a
                                         
                                        decision. No, when you love somebody, you just don't want to hurt yourself, so you're not doing
                                         
                                        something. No, not yourself. No, because when you really love somebody, you're in a relationship
                                         
                                        and you do something, you feel it too. Yes. So again, it's about, it's about me. It's about my
                                         
                                        wife and it's about my daughter. But it's about you too because again, it's you, like, you
                                         
                                        ownership of everything that you do. So anything that you do will affect you too. Because if she
                                         
                                        leave, you got to deal with it too. Absolutely. So my mindset was, I don't ever want to be in a
                                         
                                        position to hurt my wife the way I saw my father hurt.
                                         
    
                                        But it's not about I don't want to be in position that because that's, you should say,
                                         
                                        I don't want to do it because I don't want to get hurt.
                                         
                                        And that's a, that's not.
                                         
                                        No, I think that's very selfish.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's not.
                                         
                                        You're about to be doing these dating things you need to understand.
                                         
                                        Maybe you don't mean it that way, but it sounds like you're thinking about yourself in a situation.
                                         
                                        So imagine this.
                                         
    
                                        I'm going to ask y'all this, ladies.
                                         
                                        Y'all answer it.
                                         
                                        If y'all go through y'all man phone and he said, y'all see a text man say, man, I was going,
                                         
                                        you know, fuck the girl, but I don't want to make my girl mad.
                                         
                                        That won't bother y'all?
                                         
                                        Because he said, I'm not going to do it because I don't want to upset y'all.
                                         
                                        Or he's going to say, I love what I got.
                                         
                                        I'm not going to do it because I don't want to hurt what I got going on.
                                         
    
                                        Okay, so that's what you made.
                                         
                                        That means that's a unit.
                                         
                                        You're describing the unit.
                                         
                                        He said, or are you going to stop cheating because of her?
                                         
                                        Or you're going to stop like understanding what you got.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Okay, that's a great way.
                                         
                                        But it's more of a unison thing for you.
                                         
    
                                        It's really understanding the real reason of love, right?
                                         
                                        Because we always down like when y'all go through your phone, if y'all seen it.
                                         
                                        He didn't cheat, but he said, I ain't going to do it because I got some shit at home.
                                         
                                        I'm going to piss her off.
                                         
                                        That's whack.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's corny.
                                         
                                        Would I still leave him, though?
                                         
                                        No, I don't.
                                         
    
                                        I'm asking him.
                                         
                                        That's why because that's not the right reason not to cheat.
                                         
                                        You're not going to cheat because you don't want to cheat because you don't want to cheat.
                                         
                                        If you got through your man, Miami and your boy said, did you fuck old girl?
                                         
                                        And he responded to her and say, nah, that fuck her because, man, I don't want my girl mad.
                                         
                                        She found out she's going to leave me.
                                         
                                        I would respond.
                                         
                                        I don't cheat on my wife.
                                         
    
                                        But I'm asking them.
                                         
                                        If they seen that, which I lead a dude, would I stay with him.
                                         
                                        I wouldn't leave him.
                                         
                                        It'll definitely be a conversation of like.
                                         
                                        Why?
                                         
                                        He said he didn't do it.
                                         
                                        Why you need to talk about?
                                         
                                        Because we together,
                                         
    
                                        motherfucker,
                                         
                                        and I want to ask a question
                                         
                                        about what I just saw
                                         
                                        your phone, so that's what we're doing.
                                         
                                        Also, why would you put yourself
                                         
                                        in the position
                                         
                                        where that was even happening?
                                         
                                        Sometimes it happened.
                                         
    
                                        When you're out of town?
                                         
                                        No, no, no.
                                         
                                        If you're home and texting you,
                                         
                                        that means it was like you,
                                         
                                        there was an intention.
                                         
                                        Manifestation, Marco.
                                         
                                        That shit don't happen to us.
                                         
                                        We don't manifest this type of things.
                                         
    
                                        We don't be out of town worried
                                         
                                        about girls DM.
                                         
                                        No, I'm saying stuff happens.
                                         
                                        Like, we talk about the community
                                         
                                        that does happen in,
                                         
                                        not just us in a moment.
                                         
                                        Okay, so point bring for it.
                                         
                                        Is that why you have
                                         
    
                                        three baby mothers
                                         
                                        No
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        I had three baby
                                         
                                        Mamas because I had one
                                         
                                        That was like
                                         
                                        When I was this
                                         
                                        Papa's baby
                                         
    
                                        When I was ringing at Popeyes
                                         
                                        And then the rest of
                                         
                                        Industry babies
                                         
                                        You weren't there
                                         
                                        Baby's crazy
                                         
                                        The labels are wild
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        So were you in a relationship
                                         
    
                                        With the mother
                                         
                                        The one year old
                                         
                                        The freshest baby that you got
                                         
                                        Yeah we was like
                                         
                                        We was trying to figure it out
                                         
                                        Hmm
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
    
                                        And were you cheating on someone
                                         
                                        With her
                                         
                                        We were you cheating on her
                                         
                                        But
                                         
                                        It was just trying to figure it out
                                         
                                        Can you be faithful?
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        That's not what you said in the beginning
                                         
    
                                        In the beginning
                                         
                                        You said you pre-cheat
                                         
                                        I have
                                         
                                        Manifesting
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        I'm just saying I have
                                         
                                        Which child's mom did you pre-cheat
                                         
                                        On Doug
                                         
    
                                        I don't know
                                         
                                        What is it?
                                         
                                        We just trying to figure out
                                         
                                        Where does this
                                         
                                        You cheat on any of your child's mothers
                                         
                                        No
                                         
                                        Wow
                                         
                                        I'm actually like let me tell you
                                         
    
                                        No, no
                                         
                                        I'm trying to tell you
                                         
                                        This is not a good liar
                                         
                                        I'm not cheat
                                         
                                        Let me tell you something
                                         
                                        Can I tell you something
                                         
                                        Go ahead
                                         
                                        Again
                                         
    
                                        I'm about to piss
                                         
                                        You know what you're like
                                         
                                        No I'm trying to tell you know
                                         
                                        Go ahead
                                         
                                        Say it
                                         
                                        So with my oldest
                                         
                                        with my oldest child
                                         
                                        that's the normal baby
                                         
    
                                        like papas
                                         
                                        my papas
                                         
                                        you said the normal baby
                                         
                                        like I'm saying
                                         
                                        when I was like
                                         
                                        this is
                                         
                                        she was there before everybody
                                         
                                        yeah this is
                                         
    
                                        I'm I'm big OG
                                         
                                        you got bigger
                                         
                                        they're normal ones
                                         
                                        I know what the fuck going on
                                         
                                        I know
                                         
                                        OG baby mama
                                         
                                        yeah okay
                                         
                                        yeah that's that
                                         
    
                                        so
                                         
                                        so with that
                                         
                                        been said
                                         
                                        when we did not work out
                                         
                                        I left too soon
                                         
                                        I came on and said
                                         
                                        you know what
                                         
                                        I want to see somebody else
                                         
    
                                        and that led me
                                         
                                        and to get
                                         
                                        on child support
                                         
                                        and it led me to
                                         
                                        like not
                                         
                                        getting to see
                                         
                                        my daughter a lot so I regret
                                         
                                        sometimes it's okay to cheat sometimes
                                         
    
                                        because when you say you're ready to go
                                         
                                        they'm like okay motherfucker you regret what
                                         
                                        what it's not okay to cheat
                                         
                                        I'm just saying I owned up to it I was
                                         
                                        I got to put on child support
                                         
                                        you you said it's okay to cheat sometimes
                                         
                                        it's never okay to cheat I'm just telling you for whoever
                                         
                                        it is out there because they said it's
                                         
    
                                        cheaper to keep her sometimes if you do do some shit
                                         
                                        just make sure she don't find out
                                         
                                        well listen no this honestly
                                         
                                        I'm talking to the community that is
                                         
                                        they need to learn these brothers don't cheat black men don't cheat
                                         
                                        They do.
                                         
                                        Unless it's on white women.
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
    
                                        You cheated.
                                         
                                        Yes, I was a black boy.
                                         
                                        That's the difference.
                                         
                                        I was a young black boy.
                                         
                                        How old were you were you cheated?
                                         
                                        I was growing up.
                                         
                                        He's disliked.
                                         
                                        How old was you cheated?
                                         
    
                                        You know, Marco, you're asking.
                                         
                                        Yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                        What the fuck is all this now?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        It's not about the age.
                                         
                                        It is about the mindset.
                                         
                                        You can be in your early 30s and be immature.
                                         
                                        You can tell the police and I'm a little boy.
                                         
    
                                        I'm breaking in somebody's car.
                                         
                                        I'm a little boy right now.
                                         
                                        You can be in your early 30s and still be immature.
                                         
                                        was an immature little boy.
                                         
                                        Let a 50-year-old breaking your car
                                         
                                        and stealing your shit.
                                         
                                        I'm a boy still.
                                         
                                        I'm still learning.
                                         
    
                                        He can identify as a kid.
                                         
                                        But the 50-year-old is breaking into your car.
                                         
                                        He has a young mindset.
                                         
                                        That's the truth.
                                         
                                        No, that's a million.
                                         
                                        A 50-year-old is breaking your car.
                                         
                                        He has a mindset.
                                         
                                        Absolutely.
                                         
    
                                        But here's the moral of the story.
                                         
                                        Cheating is not good.
                                         
                                        And I can promise you that when I can.
                                         
                                        But you got to do it to learn.
                                         
                                        Sometimes you got to hurt.
                                         
                                        God.
                                         
                                        Damn.
                                         
                                        You got to hurt people to understand sometimes that you know how to know how to feel.
                                         
    
                                        And when you get to my wife now.
                                         
                                        I'm trying to hurt my wife now.
                                         
                                        I'm not talking about your shit.
                                         
                                        them but we're not like that's our intention is not to hurt them you got to know your time
                                         
                                        when they say that too what crazy because your intention is not to hurt somebody but if she's
                                         
                                        not now you doing something that will that's why they try not to get caught right they that's right
                                         
                                        so what I'm trying to say is even if you do get caught and that's why women got to leave man when
                                         
                                        they do do that they got to leave them because at the end of day you're going to learn
                                         
    
                                        and when you learn I'm helping the women community because now you know not to do this
                                         
                                        again and if it hurt you you got to learn sometimes let me tell you something it sounds like
                                         
                                        the problem that you have.
                                         
                                        Not me.
                                         
                                        I'm saying we just talking about a conversation.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        Bring it down.
                                         
                                        Just, huh?
                                         
    
                                        Let's text you.
                                         
                                        Check your phone.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I ain't got my phone on me.
                                         
                                        I'm done.
                                         
                                        The problem is, he can't read the damn message.
                                         
                                        The problem is, you have to be careful who you procreate with.
                                         
                                        Exactly.
                                         
    
                                        That's the problem.
                                         
                                        That is right.
                                         
                                        And that, because that is, that's what my book is about you.
                                         
                                        I'll read it to you one day.
                                         
                                        But I'm telling you, like, I, tell you, what's the name of it?
                                         
                                        Till death, do we parent, available.
                                         
                                        free ones y'all. Do we parent?
                                         
                                        Do we parent? Till death, do we parent?
                                         
    
                                        You're going to need to read that because you got through your baby mom.
                                         
                                        Yeah. That book is about just
                                         
                                        going to go on a tour with it. I absolutely.
                                         
                                        Okay, well, just have you read it to a motherfucker.
                                         
                                        Yes, I know. I got you, but
                                         
                                        that's what it sounds like your problem was
                                         
                                        like you have to be able
                                         
                                        to find out everything
                                         
    
                                        you can about somebody. You got to get to know
                                         
                                        the person that you are trying to
                                         
                                        create people with. Exactly. That's important.
                                         
                                        Yes. It's very important.
                                         
                                        Can you read that?
                                         
                                        You would be a Piz.
                                         
                                        what happened the last time you asked my
                                         
                                        reading. What's that say? Today you
                                         
    
                                        are that
                                         
                                        Nope, you missed the word. Which one? Damn it
                                         
                                        It's queen. This cat in the hat right here. I got this one.
                                         
                                        Dr. Seuss, go ahead. Can you point at it?
                                         
                                        Right here. No, point at each word. Okay, here you go. That's what this
                                         
                                        today you are you that is
                                         
                                        true. Oh, muyan. That's a
                                         
                                        I don't know what that mean right there. That's a
                                         
    
                                        T-H-A-W.
                                         
                                        Oh, man.
                                         
                                        No, that's an N.
                                         
                                        That's an N.
                                         
                                        Then, true.
                                         
                                        There is no, we alive.
                                         
                                        No, not we.
                                         
                                        There's no.
                                         
    
                                        I can't see either.
                                         
                                        Right there.
                                         
                                        You might need glasses, baby.
                                         
                                        I got, I got a contact on.
                                         
                                        You got to take them out.
                                         
                                        How long you had them in?
                                         
                                        A month.
                                         
                                        Day by day.
                                         
    
                                        I just take it too long.
                                         
                                        I should not take this long to read it.
                                         
                                        Can you read it so we know what it is?
                                         
                                        Today you are you, that is true than true.
                                         
                                        There is no one alive who is you or than you.
                                         
                                        See, why how would you give them a riddle?
                                         
                                        That is what I want Mark going to take.
                                         
                                        Oh, shit, you won't give him a riddle?
                                         
    
                                        No, I want him to take that away from this interview.
                                         
                                        Why are you arguing that I can't read?
                                         
                                        Let me do this.
                                         
                                        I want, I want Marco to know that.
                                         
                                        It's not enough.
                                         
                                        There's nobody alive that is newer than you, Marco.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's fine.
                                         
                                        You are him.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, and it's okay.
                                         
                                        Anything that you dealing with makes you you.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        And it's okay to accept it.
                                         
                                        And if you don't accept it, just fix it.
                                         
                                        And that's why I don't even like us having this debate about cheating and everything.
                                         
                                        Because you're right.
                                         
                                        Everything that we've been through does make us who we are.
                                         
    
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        And I can tell people from experience, that was a terrible experience
                                         
                                        that I should have never put anybody through
                                         
                                        and I am glad that I stopped that type of behavior
                                         
                                        and my life has been amazing ever since.
                                         
                                        That's so.
                                         
                                        So what we're telling you is don't fuck it up.
                                         
                                        Don't fucking up.
                                         
    
                                        Because we almost did.
                                         
                                        No, I understand.
                                         
                                        I understand.
                                         
                                        I don't get shit to fuck up.
                                         
                                        Oh, that's right.
                                         
                                        You can't get forward.
                                         
                                        Going forward.
                                         
                                        Going forward.
                                         
    
                                        Don't fuck it up.
                                         
                                        Especially where you are.
                                         
                                        Because I old are you?
                                         
                                        32.
                                         
                                        32.
                                         
                                        Your life is only going to get better.
                                         
                                        You're going to make more money
                                         
                                        and I'm going to tell you what the OG told me a long time.
                                         
    
                                        I'll salute to Kevin Liles.
                                         
                                        Kevin Lowe said,
                                         
                                        I can't tell you to get married,
                                         
                                        but I can tell you to find somebody to share your life experiences with.
                                         
                                        And that's what you're going to want when you get older.
                                         
                                        You're going to want somebody that you can share this amazing life that you're living with.
                                         
                                        Exactly.
                                         
                                        You feel like you're going to be with a dude for the rest of your life?
                                         
    
                                        Yes, I do.
                                         
                                        That's dope.
                                         
                                        We appreciate you for doing.
                                         
                                        And I love your relationship, too.
                                         
                                        Thank you so much, Mark.
                                         
                                        You want to shout out anything out, what you're doing?
                                         
                                        You want to tell people what you're doing and all that?
                                         
                                        I'm just out here in New York and I'm talking to y'all.
                                         
    
                                        When it's over, we're getting in the car.
                                         
                                        What are you promoted?
                                         
                                        The new season of open thoughts, right?
                                         
                                        I mean, stare for stare, you know.
                                         
                                        Some stuff is just there.
                                         
                                        Marco.
                                         
                                        Well, what's your end goal, Marco?
                                         
                                        Where do you see the funny Marco brand going where do you want it to go?
                                         
    
                                        Manifesto.
                                         
                                        I want to be a director and be able to get people platforms.
                                         
                                        And also help out a lot of stand-up comedians that really are doing it for years,
                                         
                                        but they don't have a following.
                                         
                                        So I feel like now they're pushing that on, like, you know,
                                         
                                        people that get following do stand-up.
                                         
                                        And there's some people that really been doing it for years,
                                         
                                        and it's just hard for them to break it
                                         
    
                                        because now it's about your face card.
                                         
                                        I feel like fame is about how much they see you now,
                                         
                                        not how well you're good at what you do.
                                         
                                        And it's some people that they're
                                         
                                        that's really great at acting and, you know, stand-up podcasting.
                                         
                                        And it's just hard for them to be seen.
                                         
                                        So that's why I love what Nick Cannon do.
                                         
                                        He helped out a lot of people.
                                         
    
                                        And it's like, when you think of Nick Cannon,
                                         
                                        he's like, damn, what do he do?
                                         
                                        You know, but he does a lot.
                                         
                                        Like, you just don't be, oh, he's a comedian.
                                         
                                        So 50 cent, too, as well, that get people, like,
                                         
                                        it's no, I'm not, it's just not one thing
                                         
                                        you can do in life.
                                         
                                        So you want to do for others what you did for Bobby.
                                         
    
                                        But this time it's going to be black people and a black woman.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I've done a lot for it.
                                         
                                        I got a lot of people that I was going to bring my job here.
                                         
                                        I didn't know what the fuck did you say?
                                         
                                        I work for a lot of people.
                                         
                                        I help a lot of people out.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Is this just another white woman to hear with you, Marco?
                                         
    
                                        Oh, my God.
                                         
                                        I don't want to say anything.
                                         
                                        I didn't want to say anything.
                                         
                                        You said you don't know her.
                                         
                                        I'm not discriminating.
                                         
                                        I'm not doing this saying.
                                         
                                        I didn't say that.
                                         
                                        I love white people.
                                         
    
                                        No, I do know her.
                                         
                                        I didn't say that.
                                         
                                        Jesus, you pointed.
                                         
                                        Huh?
                                         
                                        that my girl she's on the team of the podcast but you didn't see how she he pointed back like
                                         
                                        there's a whole bunch of black women back there but it was that's what you did i mean honestly
                                         
                                        margot that's what you did you like i look at me and you're like yeah okay the people out there
                                         
                                        i'm sorry for how he act he really is a good guy it's just say some fuck them shit from time
                                         
    
                                        to time but he really has a heart shout up to jess you've been doing your thing thank you
                                         
                                        you really do good with reading and delivering messages outside of court rooms i still don't know
                                         
                                        what you do but again and you good at what you do and sometimes
                                         
                                        I see you, sometimes you don't.
                                         
                                        And it seems like you start stuff and you don't finish it.
                                         
                                        It's like you start interviews and then you stop the black and white stuff
                                         
                                        you had going on with different artists and you went to people who...
                                         
                                        I think so much your face that, but this is black artists.
                                         
    
                                        No, no, I'm just saying.
                                         
                                        Did you see that version of him?
                                         
                                        Did you see that version of him?
                                         
                                        He just starts shit and just stops.
                                         
                                        I know.
                                         
                                        What did you touch?
                                         
                                        He's a beautiful person.
                                         
                                        He is.
                                         
    
                                        He's beautiful.
                                         
                                        Shout out to us for being alive.
                                         
                                        It's important.
                                         
                                        That's right, man.
                                         
                                        All praise is due to God.
                                         
                                        Funny Marco.
                                         
                                        Keep going.
                                         
                                        Funny Marco.
                                         
    
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        You coming back?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I love New York.
                                         
                                        I had to sit down here for me.
                                         
                                        No, I mean here instead of breakfast.
                                         
                                        I'm going to go.
                                         
                                        New York is dope.
                                         
    
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Well, look, are you going to interview me?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        We're going to sit down and sit down and we're going to sit down and sit down.
                                         
                                        That's going to be a long show.
                                         
                                        What do you mean that's going to look?
                                         
                                        We're going to have me on open thoughts to promote my book.
                                         
                                        Y'all got to stop talking about the reading community because it's some of us out there.
                                         
    
                                        I know.
                                         
                                        That's what I'm saying.
                                         
                                        Like I was the part.
                                         
                                        Well, I wasn't never part of your.
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
                                        They said Fantasia can't read.
                                         
                                        Stop saying that.
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
    
                                        Don't say that.
                                         
                                        They used to say that back in the day.
                                         
                                        Don't say that because I'm pretty sure she can now.
                                         
                                        Well, if she can't, she with me, it's fine.
                                         
                                        We're together.
                                         
                                        But when are you going to invest into that?
                                         
                                        Because you have money where you can just, like, read.
                                         
                                        Some stuff, you got to understand.
                                         
    
                                        It takes up your mind space.
                                         
                                        Like my brain, it already got a lot of shit going on.
                                         
                                        I got to worry about what I'm going to wear tomorrow,
                                         
                                        where I'm going to brush my teeth.
                                         
                                        I got my kids.
                                         
                                        So I got so much other shit going on.
                                         
                                        So learning how to read and writing all this stuff,
                                         
                                        it's not even on your list of things.
                                         
    
                                        That's what I say when it comes to words and reading and writing.
                                         
                                        And it gives you anxiety.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        You know, I watch football on Sunday.
                                         
                                        No, for sure, I know, so I think the kids should stay with their moms.
                                         
                                        That's stupid.
                                         
                                        I'm telling you what's born at home.
                                         
                                        Just because you have a learning disability.
                                         
    
                                        It doesn't mean that you can't.
                                         
                                        I don't even know that's a learning disability, is it?
                                         
                                        It is.
                                         
                                        We're just learning.
                                         
                                        You still learn, and you're very smart.
                                         
                                        Stop down playing yourself.
                                         
                                        I didn't say that.
                                         
                                        I just, I want up to what I go through.
                                         
    
                                        It's okay.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I didn't get on here for, what they call sympathy?
                                         
                                        I said it right.
                                         
                                        Sympathy.
                                         
                                        Yeah, you said it right.
                                         
                                        You said it right for that.
                                         
                                        I was just being real.
                                         
    
                                        That's it.
                                         
                                        Got you're very intelligent.
                                         
                                        can't anybody fuck with you well what you do is very intelligent the awkward i'm telling you that's a
                                         
                                        skill set like there's not too many people who can do that some of your beer gone too like oh
                                         
                                        oh you always said some of it's gone yeah oh okay why you're looking at his mouth because he's
                                         
                                        talking to me oh my god he was born like that he was born like that oh my god i'm not born like
                                         
                                        I'm sorry, all right, well.
                                         
                                        Wait, he wasn't more like that.
                                         
    
                                        I thought he was shooting.
                                         
                                        He shot at me.
                                         
                                        I shot back to your face.
                                         
                                        Okay, when you, sometimes when you are, and this is why it's good to start adopting people,
                                         
                                        because sometimes when you are growing up with some stuff, some parents don't look into it.
                                         
                                        Sometimes he'd be okay.
                                         
                                        So my agony got worse and worse, and it was some things that my mama could have been on top of.
                                         
                                        Gotcha.
                                         
    
                                        And it was just getting worse and worse.
                                         
                                        Dr. Natasha Sandio fixed that.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        I don't think so.
                                         
                                        You never seen my, you didn't see my discoloration back in the time?
                                         
                                        No, I really didn't look into it.
                                         
                                        I got so much shit going on.
                                         
                                        That's a lie.
                                         
    
                                        Because you text me one time back in the top of,
                                         
                                        man, what did you do to your face?
                                         
                                        No, I didn't not say that.
                                         
                                        Yes, I need to do what you did to your face.
                                         
                                        And then that's why I asked.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Something happened.
                                         
                                        I remember you asking me, what you do?
                                         
    
                                        He said, you need to ask him what the fuck he did in his face.
                                         
                                        So I asked.
                                         
                                        I love it.
                                         
                                        It's the face community.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        Black men take care of each other.
                                         
                                        Thank you for us, man.
                                         
                                        Take care about ourselves.
                                         
    
                                        Thank you, funny, Mark.
                                         
                                        Funny Markle, thank about it to chat, too, man.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        W's in the chat, y'all.
                                         
                                        God.
                                         
                                        It's funny, Marco.
                                         
                                        It's the breakfast club.
                                         
                                        Good morning, chat.
                                         
    
                                        We see y'all tomorrow, chat.
                                         
                                        Hold on.
                                         
                                        Every day I wake up.
                                         
                                        Wake your ass up.
                                         
                                        The breakfast club.
                                         
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