The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Fvio Foreign On Balancing Fame, Slowing Down Drug Habits, Ma$e, Meek Mill, Kanye West + More
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Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are The Breakfast Club.
We got a special guest in the building.
Yes, indeed.
Fabio Foran.
What up?
What's up, sir?
What up, Oboe?
Is this your first time up here?
Yeah.
Yeah, it is.
It is.
Yeah, remember last time we came, he had an issue and he came late or something.
Yeah.
Oh.
And I called him after
yeah well welcome salute to five of your form man i feel like i always see you because i you know
i'm always seeing you do either whether the conversation with nyla or some people itself
i've seen him up here so many times yeah yeah first time on the breakfast club well welcome sir
angie you know a lot too angie how's it going chilling pain and love too man out right now
what's the difference between a mixtape and an album
I mean I know the difference
But I feel like you should
Just be putting out albums
At this point
Yeah but you know
It be different
It be hard
Like when you're dealing
With the labels and shit
Like when they count
They count
They count albums different
Money wise
Like for mixtapes
It's just like
Label politics
But for me
But for me
Like I think I don't put I put more work Into an album Than the mixtapes, it's just like label politics. But for me, like I think I don't put,
I put more work into an album than the mixtape.
Mixtape is kind of like for the streets,
core fan base, shit like that.
So where did that money come from now?
Cause you still put it up on the streaming services, right?
So is that something that go directly to you?
That's the label still involved with that?
No, when I say like money wise,
I mean like if you do it, like when you do a a deal like if you do like a four hour deal right you do a mixtape they won't it won't go
one towards your album so it's like they still got you in it locked in gotcha oh i get what
you're saying so if you got like a five album deal mixtape don't count they don't care yeah
but this is good because now we can go back i'm from new york so i know a lot about fabio but for
people that don't know
you were bubbling in New York
for a while
and you did a Mace
how did you link up with Mace
for people that don't know
you would sign your deal
through Mace
for people that don't know
so how did that happen
either you tired of telling this story
I'm sure you're tired
but a lot of people don't know
a lot of people don't know
a lot of people don't
nah
I had
before
I had the big drip joint, I had some song called
Licky in a Box and shit.
Yep.
And, you know, I was like, yeah, like, I was like bubbling in Brooklyn.
You know what I'm saying?
Look, I ain't have a million views yet, but I was lit in Brooklyn like people knew.
So, you know what I'm saying?
Mase came, and he was like, yo, I want to sign you.
I was like, all right, bet.
So it was around that time
now when you did when you did the deal with mace what made you want to sign with mace was it his
predigree was it the fact that he's been doing it for so long because at the time
they were telling me that a lot of labels were reaching out to you and the reason i know is like
i said you would be running the streets all the time yeah nah nah um yeah i just his name like his name see i knew his name
you know i'm saying like i knew his name his name i'm like yeah i bet like and i was not the labels
ain't even really start reaching out yet so like it was it was like one of the first persons and
like signed deal i was like where i just did it like i was first like i'm like i thought i was
going from there i thought I was gone.
From there, I thought it was over.
Did you have lawyers look at the contract at the time?
No, no.
So you just signed no?
Yeah, I thought it was over.
Jesus Christ, Fabio.
When you say you thought it was over, you mean like you thought you was about to blow up?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, okay, okay. I thought I was about to blow up.
I thought I was gone.
Did we even ask you how you doing, man?
How are you?
Yeah, we did.
I asked him the first thing he said, how's he doing?
He said he was good.
Okay.
I remember on that pain pressure record,
you said,
I go through a lot,
but I hold it together.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
How would you describe
those challenges you're facing
when you say you go through a lot,
but you're holding it together?
I mean, you know,
like I'm saying,
we should go through
like your private shit.
Like you still got to come outside.
You still got to work for the people. You know what I'm saying? You still got to go to work. You still got to do what you got to do every night in the studio. through like yeah like your private like you still gotta come outside you still gotta
work for the people you know i'm saying you still gotta go to work you still gotta do what you gotta
do every night in the studio i'm saying you still gotta be in the club you still gotta shake hands
you still gotta do everything you gotta do so i'm saying you can't you gotta you gotta hold
that together you can't even show that that's what i'm saying is it hard is it hard oh
good yeah i was gonna ask you why is only there's only 10 songs on a mixtape.
Only 10 joints?
Mm-hmm.
Nah, that's because, you know, it's a mixtape.
I just wanted them to be short.
To the point, I'm saying pain and love, like a couple pain joints,
a couple love joints, like make it smooth.
Got you.
As far as I know, you still live in in new york you still here in the city
why have you why you haven't felt the need to leave like a lot of artists do a lot of artists
go live in atlanta they go live in atlanta why you feel the need to still be here i don't know
i just i don't feel like i feel like i feel like i should leave too though
but i just ain't leave yet but i think i should leave too though. But I just ain't leave yet, but I think I should leave too.
Cause like,
you know what I'm saying?
You just,
you just,
you just,
you just get away from like all the regular type of like shit that you got
access to.
You don't really need access to just go out of town.
You know,
I'm in Jersey,
but New York is like 20 minutes away,
but you know what I'm saying?
The access to that is like,
you don't really want that too much.
The access to like your, your old yeah yeah yeah you go back you up the block
let me go to new york for a minute let me go to town for a minute but anything happened anywhere
because you got into an incident in atlanta one time so it really don't matter yeah it don't it
don't matter where you at but it's still like it, it's like, you know, like, that's like, you know, you go out, people know where you at.
But it's like on your regular off days when you just chilling, you don't want to be like having like that much access to like negativity.
Where do you feel safer at nowadays?
Where do I feel safer at?
I don't know.
I don't know I don't know in the house
it's in the house right
yeah
you got
Meek Mill on this project
so on Twitter I seen he said he charged
a quarter million
$250,000 for a verse
that's what you paid him
nah nah nah nah that's what you paid him no no no okay no that's my boy so like like you know
me and meek todd did differently i'm saying like on some like family type of vibes like so it's
like you know his people is my people like my people is his people type vibes like for me like
we all we all like got the same like circle type circle type of shit. So it was different. It was, like, more love joint.
Like, so, and then I think he liked the joint so much.
You know what I'm saying?
He wasn't even thinking about none of that money shit.
Like, the song was fire.
Like, he liked it.
You know what I'm saying?
Then we did a couple joints.
We did two.
He got one coming out, too.
Have you spoken to Meek about About that
Some of the stuff that
You've been going through
Because it seems like
Meek was going through it
Early on in his career
With family members
Wanting money
And everybody
With their hand out
Yeah I think
I tell you
I think that's
He was one of
He was one of like
The main people like
That I was wanting to talk to
From the jump
Like for me
Because it's like
Like So when I When I was looking at it Like when I was wanting to talk to from the jump, like, for me, because it's, like, like, so when I was looking at it,
like, when I was coming up, and, you know, everybody coming up,
anybody, like, that's from, like, the hood or, like, the bottom
or, like, the trenches, you know, go to anything,
niggas look at me as one of those type of niggas, like,
that relate to him the most.
So I've been wanting to holler at him about mad shit,
but by the time, you know what I'm saying, I got to really talk to him the most. So I've been wanting to holler at him about mad shit, but by the time,
you know what I'm saying, I got to really talk to him.
Like, one of the things I was going through,
he was going through, like, I think he was going
through, like, the similar type of shit, and, you know,
he's still going through that. Like, we still going through that.
Like, I'm sure you going through it,
you know what I'm saying, just entitled people, like,
just anybody in them type of positions
where, like, you can
do something for somebody like you got
opportunities for people i'm saying i thought this for like you know people just over want
over you want and shit so it should be like for me be asking you for stuff they never made in
their life yeah they'll pay you back next friday you get 10 racks till next friday yeah shit like
that like you did like like jobs with like friends and
family like you know you want to help them out but it's like somebody a stranger probably work
harder like in that position right it's just it's just like like i don't know like it's hard it's
hard it's hard to like you know it's hard to say no to same time but it's like damn but when did
you realize was it one of those things where your money got low and you was like where'd all my money go or what made you realize when i really realized it when when yeah like when
it was moments where it was like you know maybe i couldn't make it there or like i couldn't say yes
all the time like and then i seen how people was like tight i'm saying i'm like damn like
i said we just good i just hope man like last week i said yeah i'm saying I'm like damn like I said we just good I just hold you down like last week I said
yeah I'm saying when they started doing like that I'm like damn it was the ungratefulness
that made me regret it like damn like I don't mind doing for people or nothing like that
but it's just like when you don't really like when you don't like there's no gratitude yeah
yeah like you ain't even like we ain't even like recognizing it like it's like damn it's up
in the sense of entitlement they act like you supposed to do it yeah right oh that's what
has it been difficult balancing i'm sorry good and that goes for like friends and family because at
one point i i know that you said the dumbest mistake that you ever made was putting your
friends before your kids was that like one of the eye openers that you like you actually saw
for me yeah hell yeah like it was it was it was I had to had to be like yeah I
bought like a bunch of chains and shit for my homies and shit so when that shit
happened I'm like when niggas started like acting like I wasn't really doing
enough or doing like damn that's crazy like I did that like I sacrificed that
like because you know it's people that's gonna tell you you, yo, you bugging, you dumb already.
Right?
But you think you're doing the right thing.
Until you get smacked in the face.
You be like, damn, all right.
I wasn't doing the right thing.
Y'all right?
Yeah.
You said you wanted to keep,
I think if I read it,
you said you wanted to get a change to your kid.
You wish you had a bunch of kids to change?
Or did you just mean you wish you'd have kept the money for your kid?
Nah, I just wish I would've.
I just wish I would've did like like, something different with the money.
You got you.
You know what I'm saying?
And I could've held off.
Maybe we could've got it to change later.
Maybe make a little more investments or some shit.
And some type of situations, like, you know,
just did something different and gave it,
you know what I'm saying,
to some people that would appreciate it more.
Has it been difficult balancing, like,
your personal struggles while being, you know,
in the public? balancing your personal struggles While being in the public?
Like personal struggles?
Yeah, it is
Because like
When you're a public person
You know what I'm saying?
When you're super successful
I guess people expect more of you
So you might do something little
It just seems like It's something bigger expect more of you. So it was like, you might do something like little, and it'd be like,
it just seemed like,
it seemed like
it's something bigger.
You know what I'm saying?
It just seemed like
something bigger,
like,
it's just,
and then like,
every time,
every time somebody
mad at you or something,
they gonna go to the public,
because you know,
you probably,
everybody's saying,
you know what I'm saying?
So that's,
should be why.
Is it worth it?
What? The fame, the money, but shit we got. Is it worth it? What?
The fame, the money, but then all the bullshit that come with it?
Yeah, I wouldn't change it.
I wouldn't give it up.
You know what I'm saying?
I ain't tripping over it.
It don't bother me too much.
You know what I'm saying?
Where it's like, I don't want the life no more.
Mm-hmm.
You know what I'm saying?
I steal a lot of blessings.
I know where this shit come with, and I'm dealing with it.
But I just learn, and I'm just able to move different it just it just it's just crazy you know i'm saying
that you look at some of the people you love how they switch up when you like that's just the that's
just crazy like you just wish your things were different you wish it was different now one time
we we were talking um and they were saying that you know the hip-hop police at one time was trying
to box you out of some of new york clubs we were talking about them really but i seen like that
that opened up a little bit for you where they're not doing this so what changed with that relationship
or um i just i just started started moving smarter like i'm just saying it like one day like i think
i think i think one of the hip- niggas named Sean, he like retired.
Sean, yeah, yeah.
What up, Sean?
Yeah, before he retired, though, he's like, yo, he's like, yo, come here for a second.
Let me talk to you in a spot.
Like, yo, like, you be real deep.
Like, you feel me?
Like, he just, he, it's basically like he sat me down and he spoke to me like, yo, like,
you, like, you don't want to miss this opportunity.
You don't want to miss this money.
Like, you know what I'm saying? You don't want you want to miss this money like you know what i'm saying you don't want to shut up like i'm saying i told a couple people like
before they got like he told me like a couple people before you got that he spoke to him like
yo chill they ain't listening stop i'm saying it just you don't want to be in the way you want to
stay out the way you don't want to be looking down like that yo so help me out new york accent
is crazy i laughed at that because i thought he said, because the nigga Sean retarded.
But he said he's a retired Sean. I laughed a little bit. I was like, why am I saying that was funny?
He said retired. The New York accent is so strong. I'm sorry.
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Wait a minute. I'm retarded.
He's retired. He's retarded and retired.
Retarded and retired.
Y'all are crazy. Oh my god.
Nah, I don't know. Nah, I spoke
to him. I'm saying he crazy. Oh my God. Nah, I don't know. I spoke to him.
He just busted down like that.
Sean is the curly top.
You would see all the pictures all the time. Curly top hip hop
police dude. Yeah, he cool though.
He retired after that. Yeah, he did retire.
I wanted to ask you too about, you know, you talked about
you slowed down your drug use.
What got you out of using the drugs as much?
We just heard a story of Bow Wow talking about he was on
lean and what it affects that on him. What's so on him he said y'all used to sip together you know what he did not he said
no but he said now he did say he was on lean and how the bad effects adam what made you slow down on the drug use nah
with me
I don't know
I just
I just felt like
I wanted to be
I was on some health
I was on my healthy journey
type of vibe
so
you know what I'm saying
so like
I can't
you gotta
like you gotta like
for me you gotta tighten up
like less drinking
less
everything
so I just got like
that i started drinking more water before i never even drink water like that i saw a tweet recently
when you said though you want me to stop taking perks give me something different to be addicted
to that don't sound like you was yeah okay when i was just saying that i was just saying that like
for me like i was just choking to the I was just saying that, like, you feel me?
Like, I was just talking to the girls,
like, it's a little flirty type of, you know what I mean?
You couldn't think of nothing better to say on Valentine's Day than that shit?
Nah, I was just trolling the bitches.
It's their fault.
They try to go viral with me.
They always go viral with me.
Oh, so that was a tweet to a specific girl.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
Or just girls in general.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Basically, man,
I want pussy over perks
is what you was trying to say.
Yeah, for me.
That's a little furry joint
for me,
so we can just
fuck around.
That's about an addiction.
When did that rumor come out
that somebody roofied you
or put something in your drink
and that you were stuck somewhere
and that's the real... When did that rumor come from? I haven't heard that one something in your drink that you were stuck somewhere.
I didn't even hear that one.
That was a while ago.
They said somebody roofied him.
That was in Paris, I think.
He was in Paris, right?
I don't know why they said that.
I don't know why they said that.
It was a rumor.
That shit ain't funny, man.
It was a real rumor.
That they put a roofie in your drink or something crazy.
Yeah, they would say that.
I don't know why they would say that.
It was wild.
I was a little fucked up one time when I was in Paris.
Bugging out was bugging out.
What kind of bugging out you mean?
You was wild? I was wild. I was wild. out. What kind of bugging out you mean? Like you was wilding?
I was wild.
He shocked himself.
Like, how are you supposed to be wilding like this?
Oh, you was so fucked up.
It was like somebody must have moved this nigga.
What the fuck was you doing?
They thought somebody drugged you.
I was arguing.
I was arguing and bugging like shit like that.
And I was like, Paris, you know what I'm saying?
But I don't be drinking like that no more.
Did you have a good time, at least?
Yeah.
Okay.
He definitely got a sense of him.
He's so funny.
Remember when Nicki came out with the song, you really thought she was saying
5E instead of body.
You really thought that.
Man, come on, 5E.
He was serious, y'all.
He was dead serious too
did but i thought she was somebody told me that oh somebody told me she said five she looked she
said the body yeah but you got is yeah you know what it is you know what it is i ain't really
listening to the whole song and you don't know i was just having that part it was like a symbol
was going viral on on tick On TikTok I'm like oh shit
So who told you
It wasn't you
When did you realize that
Everybody else
I listened to the song
And I saw the title
And I'm saying
And I'm like oh shit
Alright
But I still
Like I knew it before
Like I posted it
But I was like
Fuck it I'm still gonna post it
Nothing you've said
In the last five minutes
Makes me think you've
Stopped using it
I just want you to know that
Fabio
Nah I just want you to know that, Fabio.
Nah, I just, you feel me?
I just gotta,
you feel me? I got this good image for the people. You're not a morning person
either, are you?
Nah, it's not that.
It's not that. Like, I'm a morning person,
but...
Having a talk?
It's like a higher shit, though.
Hey, man. how do you go
how do you go
how do you go
yo he was on his way in
yo you told him
I used a drug
he start laughing
damn no
I ain't stop
nigga
this nigga high as shit
yo
yo this nigga
on his way in
right
no you opened up the door
we opened up the door
for you to come in
he was like
yo I'm about to go
wash my face
yo this nigga just realized his face was dirty just now You opened up the door. We opened up the door for you to come in. He was like, hey, yo, I'm about to go wash my face.
Yo, this nigga just realized his face was dirty just now.
Probably took an edible this morning.
Hilarious, yo. How many milligrams was it, Bobby?
Damn, edible, yo.
It leaves something.
Don't know.
Definitely 20 grams.
Definitely 20.
Definitely 20.
What's your relationship with Ye?
You and Ye still good?
What's your relationship with Ye? Ye. That still good? What's your relationship with Ye?
Ye.
I fuck with Ye.
How you connect with Popcorn?
Oh, Popcorn?
Charlamagne said it mad for you.
Popcorn.
Popcorn.
I don't know why we're asking you anything.
Why are you asking him anything at this point
I'm glad you got nice teeth
that's all we've been saying
they real?
yeah
a little bit
they were there
I respect it.
And they look real.
I respect people who do stuff like that.
Like when you get some money, go invest in something like that.
Yeah.
Yeah, get your shit right.
Yeah, make sure you get them right.
You know, some people be walking around,
they be looking like they already fall out of a motherfucker ball.
But no, let me ask you something serious.
All right, so you got a song on a project with Vory,
and it's called No Love.
And, you know, since it's, like, his legal situation, have you, like, thought differently or whatever?
Because you hear Meek Mill say he cut ties with him or whatever.
How was your relationship with him so far?
I mean, you know, I think Meek cut ties with him, like, based off some other shit, though.
Okay.
But he was just, like, when that shit though okay but he was just like when that shit
came out he was letting the people know though like he not really publicly just let him but i
think it was because of like some other like shit like i don't think he moving right and shit like
that like as far as the business goes so he's like yeah i can't fuck with him you know what i'm saying
you know you know like with like people getting in positions like meek and shit like where he don't really need he don't really need like
money of off you know what i'm saying because he he well off for me it's more like relationships
and respect like and morals and principles why with each other like so i think i think he
like he ain't living right boring type vibes like so yeah yeah so he probably is not with
him like that but yeah me i just you know i, I just fall back from anybody that go through any type
of wild shit like that.
Yeah.
I mean, there's nothing you can do at this point because your album's out.
Yeah, it's already out.
It's what happened yesterday.
I didn't even know.
And it's crazy because, you know, I had, like, I had put the shit out.
I'm sure, like, he knew. It's not like he bad-mouthing him
he didn't even tell me like i didn't even know nothing was going on yeah i'm saying
that's all that song is about um your man t dot right the no no love love it's not really about
t dot but i definitely mentioned them in the song but it's just you know it's just about like
separating from like certain type of people i'm saying but i mentioned my t dot in there but it's like you know like you gotta separate sometimes you gotta separate from people
i don't love loss it's just like i gotta fall back from you got you how impactful was t dots
passing on you and condolences too. Yeah, that shit was heavy.
You know what I'm saying?
That shit was heavy.
You know, T-Dot was like,
he was like my light.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
And he told me everything
that was going on.
You know what I'm saying?
With everything,
new artists coming out,
new, like,
what's going on.
He was just tapped in everywhere.
You know what I'm saying?
He kept me on point too.
You know what I'm saying? So when he passed away, that shit was wild.
On Mav Hoffa podcast, you said one of the ways drill rappers can help
with not promoting violence from their music is by explaining it better.
Yeah.
What did you mean by that?
I mean, like, you know, like, instead of going like, you know what I'm saying,
going like, oh, we can't rap about this of going like, you know what I'm saying, going like, oh, we can't rap about this shit or whatever, whatever.
I'm saying, because, you know, rappers is like the news, too, at the end of the day, right?
So it's like we just, it's like we reporting it.
Because it always acts like it's the music making, promoting the balance.
But I think the balance is there.
And then, you know, the balance is there and then you know
the music is reporting it but and then so it's like when you saying it and i'm saying you
definitely gotta go on places like this and when you're doing your interviews and let people know
like that's not the thing to do and i'm saying when you do get a chance to talk i'm saying
because if you got kids or whoever or people that you love that look up to you you wouldn't want
them doing these things and so it was like the same way that you love that look up to you and want them doing these things.
So it was like the same way that you got to explain to your fans and people that's following you,
like, yeah, this is what I've been through.
This is my story or this is what I've seen.
And I'm saying, but this ain't what you want to do.
And I'm saying, well, you want to do this.
I'm doing this.
Like, I'm investing money or I'm going to school.
Like, you want to say that part a lot.
And I think that's where they fuck up at. they don't tell them the positive stuff they're doing
too yeah they just act like they they come up here and act like they still like riding around
the cars looking for like i'm saying like yeah it's like they capped they got to live they got
to keep capping so it was like but and i'm saying if, if, if niggas start being real,
then I think it'll be,
it'll be fire.
You made a comment that said,
if there's no hole in their body,
they ain't get shot.
You really don't think Tory shot Megan,
do you?
I just,
I,
like,
I come from like a,
I'm coming from a point where it's like,
you know,
I've been in that situation where I've been logged on before.
You know what I'm saying?
And I mean, like, I'm, I'm i'm i'm like if if if he did it then no i don't condone that he was dead wrong i'm saying like 100 but i don't know i don't be feeling like i don't i don't feel
like it just it just was like it was just. It's just a weird thing like this. Like, his fingerprint wasn't on the gun.
It just don't make no sense.
So many missing parts, moving parts.
Yeah, it's like, it's just not adding up.
Like, it's the math ain't really mapping.
Like, it's not right.
It's like, you know, and then I could see where,
and from outside, well, from somebody that's in the industry,
I could see where, like, if she would come out and really say, like, he didn't do it all, she would come out and look like a liar.
Like, I could see where that could hurt her career so bad.
You know what I'm saying?
So I could see why she would lie.
Like, I just, you know what I'm saying?
So I just, I look at it like that.
Yeah.
And then, like you said, being lied on, that's also, that comes from a personal experience
as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you got trauma behind it.
Yeah.
And I think a lot of men go through that.
You know what I'm saying?
In this world.
You know what I'm saying?
So you got to be careful.
You got to be real careful.
You know what I'm saying?
You got to put yourself in a position where you can even get a chance to look like you
did some wild shit.
You know what I'm saying?
I can see why bitches be wanting to fuck.'m gonna see why girls be wonderful he'd be like yeah i can see why you just want to like
you like the choir yeah i'm like oh i like that whisper yeah the whisper the sexy voice like yeah
i can just see you see you who we want to which is you want to i Yeah, I can see how. Oh, my God. Bobby, your name in these streets like that?
No, I can see why.
Like, yeah, it's the voice.
It's like, okay, nigga.
He's going to start whispering more.
We're not going to be able to hear him.
Excuse me.
Hello, Bobby.
What did you say?
I know one thing.
That edible guy, this nigga have an indigestion bag.
He's whooping his ass. Just the one in the middle. Talk to the one in the middle. I know you probably. That edible guy, this nigga have an indigestion bag. He's still whooping his ass.
Just the one in the middle.
Talk to the one in the middle.
I know you probably see three of them.
I see like five of them.
Hey, yo.
I see it.
Didn't you sleep with your sister's sister?
What?
I saw that somewhere.
Yo.
Oh, my God.
I saw that in the interview.
That was bad.
Look.
I just remember one of those. I remember hearing that. I'm hearing that I didn't understand what she was saying
wouldn't that make her your sister
I was younger
it was like
she came to the crib and visit one day
I was my first time meeting her
but that was
not my sister
the sister's sister
on her father's side
Cause we got different fathers
Got you
Got you
He knocked off your step sister
Nah
It's like a friend of the family
No it's
Not your sister though
But he didn't know
Nah she wasn't a friend of it
Cause that was the first time
I met her really
Oh okay
So you didn't know
She laughed at it
Nah
I knew it
I knew it but
Oh you knew it
And didn't anyway
You stepped anyway You stepped anyway.
You stepped anyway.
You stepped on your stepsister.
She was wild.
Nah, she wasn't a stepsister, though.
You Brooklyn niggas are crazy.
Nah, that's your stepsister.
That's crazy.
No.
Nah, that's your stepsister.
That's your stepsister.
Or half-sister.
But it's no blood.
No, it's no blood at all between him and his sister.
No, because there wasn't no marriage.
That's his father's. No, not my father. no marriage. That's his father's?
No, not my father.
I'm confused.
His sister's sister.
His sister's sister.
It's her father.
Her mother.
Wait, hold on.
See, oh my God.
Y'all gave this man up.
Man, now the time to ask you for some money, Bobby.
You don't know what you want.
Oh, no.
Nah, it's just her family though.
It's like my sister's family.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She got a different father.
Oh, so there's no blood.
Right, that's what I'm saying.
There's no blood between him and his sister's sister.
She was camera work.
She was chilling.
But damn.
I don't think, I think I said it.
Yeah, I said it in there, but I don't think nobody really heard it.
What you mean?
They're going to hear it now.
Oh, my God.
Let me cite my sources.
Let me tell you what. He said, yeah, that's what he was whispering. He said, I don't think nobody heard it. they gonna hear it now let me cite my sources have y'all seen each other since you said it the first time
nah I didn't see it
oh but you know the name of the podcast was called
Dirty Street Confessions
oh yeah
it was like a TikTok type of podcast
they gonna hear it now.
Yeah.
Yeah, but she wasn't related to you, so that makes sense.
Right.
Yeah.
She was going to be in the family, though.
Family reunion.
That's right.
Have other family members said something to you about it?
Huh?
Have other family members said something to you about it?
Nah.
Did your sister be mad at you for that?
No, because I already told her.
Okay.
I told her.
She ain't care.
Yeah.
What do you think about what's going on in Gaza?
Oh, my God.
What if he was like, who's that?
No.
He said, who that?
Oh, God.
I know Gaza.
No way.
Don't answer that. Don't answer that that Don't answer that
I love how you take the door out
Alright man
The album, the mixtape right now
Pain and Love 2
Out now
Appreciate it
Fabio is high
as shit. Leave from here, man.
I'm chilling.
He's chilling.
That's great.
Thank you for coming.
Thank you for having me.
Wake that ass up.
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