The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Gia & Envy Talk 'Real Life, Real Family,' Parenting Styles; 'Casey Crew,' Trials, Tribulations + More

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Gia & Envy To Discuss 'Real Life, Real Family,' Parenting Styles; 'Casey Crew,' Trials, Tribulations. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Wake that ass up. Early in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Yep, it's the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne the God, Lauren LaRosa is here,

Jess Hilarious is here. Who's filling in for Envy? Lauren LaRosa's filling in for Envy. Is Envy filling in? He's here. I'm here. But she's filling in. Yeah.

He's a guest today though, because his new book, Real Life, Real Family, with the queen of the house, Gia Casey is out right now. What comes out April 15th? What comes out April 15th, yes. How you feeling, Gia? Humbled by being given the opportunity to write a book about something that is the most important thing to me. The thing I'm the most passionate about. The thing that brings me the most joy. Family, parenting, my household,

our home. So yes, I'm very humbled. This is the second book. Yes, it's amazing. You know what? Let's just rewind it back. For those who don't know, who is the KC Crew? Where did that name come from? How did y'all get started?

Do you remember? The KC Crew? Yeah, it's our last name. What do you mean? No, no, no. But do you remember how we came up with the name? No, how did we come up with the name? We were doing our first podcast

and it was before we were doing like the audio version, the video version, it was just the audio version. And we started the podcast without a name. And we sat there and we kind of was coming up with like different names. And one of us said, well, how about the Casey crew? You know, our last name is Casey. We have a whole crew of kids, a whole gaggle.

What about the Casey crew? And then people, you know, DM'd us and emailed and whatnot. And they said, yeah, we love that name. We have a whole crew of kids, a whole gaggle. What about the Casey crew? And then people, you know, DM us and emailed and whatnot. And they said, yeah, we love that name. We love that name. So we decided to call ourselves the Casey crew. Amazing. That's what I came about. And whenever you post on social, you always hashtag the Casey crew.

Yes. Envy does as well. But one of the things that you guys do really good from the podcast to bringing it online is you pay attention to the comments and the responses. Gia does. Gia, yeah, and you guys bring them into the podcast, but you also reflect on them on social media. So I wanna read one of the posts that we pulled,

and I thought that this was great. You inspire me, this is someone commenting to you guys. You inspire me, I wish all parents had this level of intention, planning, and vibe. Truth is most parents, moms, are stressed, overworked, by trying to make ends meet and harboring trauma. Therefore, it's passed down to the children. You've passed down light and love because of that

and because of what you are. High five to all of the parents doing their best. And you use that as a moment to talk about like, no, it get a little crazy over here. But it's important because if you ever been around your family, it is be, it'd get a little crazy over here, but. But it's important because when you, if you've ever been around your family, it is a lot of love and a lot of light, but I'm sure on the inside, things get crazy.

Well, you know, that's a big misconception. People assume that because you live a certain lifestyle or because you've earned a certain financial status that you don't have the same problems that they have. You know, in the same comment section, you'll see people like, oh, it's easy when you have money. Oh, you know, like your problems are not our problems. But that is such a misconception.

You know, we just got over one of the toughest years of our lives, probably the worst year of our life. Two years. That, yeah, the last two years have been, and that's the conversation for another day, but we've gone through a lot of trauma, a lot of disappointment, a lot of heartache, a lot of sadness, and things that we had to shield

our children from. Things that we had to figure out how to keep that brave face and how to not let it affect our family foundation. You know, because that trickle-down effect is so real. Your kids know when you're not happy. They know when you're stressed. They know when you're struggling. They know when you're upset with one another.

And they receive that energy and they project that energy. And that's something that is universal because there's not a single family out there that doesn't have trials tribulations heartache setbacks financial stresses I don't care who you are you have experienced that so financial abundance financial security even for people that have that that in and of itself doesn't mean that you're happy. Some of the most miserable people that I know do very, very well. It doesn't mean that you come along with the skill set to know how to live a happy life

and how to teach your children how to have a happy life. So that comment really, really stood out to me because she spoke on the troubles and the trauma and the word trauma that she used. And Rashaun will speak on the word trauma. Sometimes he feels as though it's a word that's overused, but it's a word that represents something that so many people endure.

The difference now is that we have words to identify how we feel and what we go through. And it's articulated because when our feelings and our experiences are articulated, then you're able to communicate. People are able to understand you. You're able to understand other people. You're able to have empathy and compassion for other people

because now we're all speaking a universal language, like the word triggered, like the word trauma, like the word- Gaslight. Gaslight. You know, these are things that some may think are overused now, but- It's exact words. Yes, but there is value there.

There is value there because now we can see each other. We understand each other. When you're trying to create a safe space, how is it to venture into an unsafe space like the comments? Especially with somebody that's on the air every day. You know what I mean? People have an opinion about it every day. So I read every single comment.

Every last comment. Why are you doing that? She be interacting a lot. I interact. It started when I had a lower follower count. It started because I always felt that if someone follows me, that's an investment, a small investment maybe, but it's an investment that they put into me. And they're looking at my content, they're looking at my pictures.

And you left a comment, I want to respond back to you. I used to respond to almost every comment, you know, but then when my followers went up, I wasn't really able to do that and that was something that, you know, I had to take that on the chin. I wasn't able to, but it's a sign of respect and you said, why do I do that to myself? Because I'm strong enough to do that. That's right. I'm strong enough to do that. The comments don't, if they are negative,

and I have to say, I don't receive a lot of negative comments, thankfully, thank God. But if they are negative, I look at it as insight. I might ask myself, why might someone have that perspective? Why may you have drawn that conclusion? To me, it feeds my mental because I'm a thinker, I'm a deep thinker, I mull over things,

I love to understand people, I love the concepts that kind of create society, I love to understand cause and effect relationships and things of that nature. So for me, the comments are food. And they also bring me happiness when they're good. It lets you know that you're reaching someone, whatever it is that you're putting out.

Because it's in the sense of sharing. There's a lot of things that I don't share. You know what I mean? So if I choose to share and it's well received, then that's a good feeling. I think that's why a lot of people are on, or part of the reason why a lot of people are on social media. You know what I mean that's why a lot of people are on, or part of the reason why a lot of people are on social media.

You know what I mean? And I'm strong enough to do so, and that's because of the way that I was raised. I was raised to be a very strong and resilient woman. It comes directly from my parents. And I'm fortunate in the sense that I can look back and identify things about the way that I was raised that created the individual, the woman, the mother, the wife that I am.

And it's for me, it's a very beautiful thing. Both of my parents are no longer here. So to be able to say, wow, when my mother did this every single day, or when she took me here once a week, or when she said this to me and those compliments, and that the way that she fed me and she fed my soul and the joy that I experienced and the amount of fun that I had as a kid, like I loved my life. And it's not because we were wealthy, we were not.

We were a middle-class family. I'm from Brooklyn, from East Flatbush. We weren't raised, you know, like I'm from an urban area. And it's not had nothing to do with money. It had nothing to do with wealth. It had everything to do with what my parents poured into my home, and the love that I felt. And that is what we put into writing this book. There's a lot of books that we could have written. So many ideas came out because Real Life, Real Love was a huge success.

It was a national best seller. So it's like, oh, you can write a book about this. We said we wanna write a book about family. It's what we know best. It's what we know best. We've had so many ups, so many downs, so many wins, so many losses, so many things that we thought we were doing right, that we weren't,

that we had to regroup and make sure that we were balanced, you know, as a married couple, because when we didn't agree, it's like, my way is better, no, my way is better. And this, you know, we had to come to a meeting of the minds. Yeah. You know what I mean? So our relationship, you know, the relationship grew because we had to learn how to see eye to eye as parents. So there was many, many ups and downs and we wanted to pour that all into a book.

We wanted to let everyone know, it's really that village mentality. It's really that, we are a community, especially our black community because- I'm black. Yes, for. Yeah for the record for the record But um it's like I know that you're well aware because you speak to things of this nature often, but our history is being erased in schools and it's being stripped away silently in society.

So the foundation starts in our homes. We have to teach children how to identify themselves. We have to teach children that sense of belonging. And they have to understand that they come from something meaningful. And if you leave it up to society to teach them that, you're gonna wind up with children that are lost, that are overlooked, that don't know how to identify themselves, that get taken advantage of, and that are susceptible to what society wants for them. So for us, our core, our nucleus,

our foundation, our home, supersedes anything else in this world. We put our family first. Yeah. Would you say that you and Envy have two different parenting styles? Absolutely. Who's the more lenient parent? Who's the more lenient parent? It depends what it is. Everybody knows my dad is retired police officer and ex-military, so I'm disciplined. I was the yeller of the screamer because I said so yeah, uh, he is a lot different like she wants to know why Yeah, how did you feel that? She likes to break down. Yeah, you don't get it. You gonna get it by the end of it Yeah, I'm sure but one of words

So you gotta think really think before you speak to her cuz she's like, alright, well explain that like I just said it Just because no no, no explain this but um, so I'm more like because I said so she's like, all right, we'll explain that. Like I just said it just because, no, no, no, explain this. But so I'm more like, because I said so, she's more like, well, you can't go to the mall because of this, because this could happen. Explain your parenting style. Mine is my dad was like, no, and you didn't ask why. It was what it was, you just figured it out later.

Gia's a little different. I prefer the explanation. Yeah. So that's how my parents were with me. I knew that my parents were invested in me living a happy, fulfilled, and fun life. And we didn't go lightly on the fun. And because I knew that,

and my parents never said no just for the sake of saying no, because parents are overworked and they are stressed and the last thing they want to hear when they walk through the door is mommy can I can you take me here can you buy me this can we watch this together can we go like slow down no and sometimes you say no you don't even know why you're saying no that's not a good parenting technique you really have to take a moment you have to take a moment, you have to take a beat, we all have to take a beat to listen to our children and be patient. And because I knew that my parents were invested in me

that way, I knew that when they said no, there was a good reason, because they would never slight me. They would never tell me no because they were too tired. They would never tell me no just because they didn't wanna be bothered. So it's like, oh, well, if mommy said no, that means that I'm not supposed to be there.

Or that means that she genuinely can't take me. And they both would take the time to explain to me, you know, like you don't want to go to that party in Coney Island because in that neighborhood, there's a lot of shooting and da da da, and you're a young girl. And I'll take it a step further, you know what my parents used to do from time to time?

They would take me to a party, not the one in Coney Island, but a party, and they would park and wait outside for me for two or three hours until I came out. And this was before cell phones and all that stuff. My dad had this little portable TV, and he would recline his seat, set the portable TV up on the dashboard and just watch TV until or whatever it was that he was watching until I came out. That let me know that my parents rooted for me. They wanted me to

enjoy life. So when they told me no, I knew that I had no business considering it, considering whatever it was that I was considering. Take a step forward, the other day, London, which is our 11 year old, wanted to walk to her friend's house after school. Her friend's house was a block away. Two blocks, it was two blocks. Gear drives in the car looking like a stalker

and follows them, the two blocks as they're walking. I don't see a problem with that. But London knew, London was like, that's my mom following us, don't worry. But she just wanted to walk and Gear followed her ass right to that house. Well, the thing is that, you like, that's my mom following us. Don't worry. But she just wanted to walk and follow her ass right to that house. Well, the thing is that, you know, she's 11. So she wants to all of her friends, all of them, they walk home from school

because they all live in the same neighborhood and they all walk home. But London is not allowed to walk home. Hell no. Absolutely. Positively not. And there's this very significant reason for it. Well, at least a partial reason. And I said, all right, babe, you can walk, but I'm gonna follow you, those two blocks.

She was like, okay, mommy, no problem. Meanwhile, you have other kids that might be like, oh, why can't I just, can't you trust me? 11, I'm not stupid. You know, other kids will rebel. Our kids are so conditioned to understanding that it's for their safety and they welcome it, especially like our oldest Madison.

Madison, when she went to college, she was like, can you chip me? Like, put a chip in her arm. Because I never heard of it. Gia was almost kidnapped as a kid. They tried to grab her when she was walking the door. Like put a chip in her arm because It's trauma. I never heard of it. Gail was almost kidnapped as a kid. They tried to grab her when she was walking the door. We know the story of Gail's face being cut.

So we are very extra when it comes to our kids. And then, you know, Charlamagne and you guys know things that has happened behind the scenes, but we're very careful when it comes to the kids. Yeah, when I was nine, a man tried to abduct me and it was awful. She was walking the door, kicked the little dog and all that. Yeah he choked me out like he had a change of clothes hidden. He was caught. He was caught. But that's there. Yeah that story is in the book. But you know so I experience I understand I come from a place where I understand that the worst can happen to you. You know, because we go through life idly like, oh no, that happens to other people.

You know, other people go through things like that. I've been through so much that I understand that the worst can happen to you. So I protect my kids with vigilance because of that personal knowledge that I have of it. How do you make sure you're raising the kids out of love and not fear though? That's such a good question. It comes with the explanations. Do you know what I mean?

I don't tell them you can't do this and you can't do that. Why? Because I said so. Let me explain to you why. Sometimes we'll watch the news together. When they're at an appropriate age, at about nine years old, you know, I think that they're mature enough to ingest certain things. So what I do is I would record it on my DVR and then cherry pick different stories

that I think that are appropriate, that speak to the protective measures that we take on them. You know what I mean? So it's like, if I see a child abduction that's not too traumatic I might save that and then show it to a child that's old enough, you know I did it with Madison I did it with Logan and I find that they take that into their adult lives and they're very very Madison like Madison walks around like a police officer

She has a boyfriend. His name is Andrew. And when they go into a restaurant, she's the one that sits facing the door. She feels like the protective force in that relationship because her head is always on swivel. You know what I mean? She could tell you a car that was driving six cars ahead. You know, and she's always paying attention to license plates.

When she was young, I used to go through like in case you get kidnapped scenarios, because it's a type of information that can save a child's life. All day long. I do. So she would be like, count the stoplights. They would be like, you're not worth a thing. Drop pieces of rice on the floor. Like she goes through the whole thing.

It's the type of information that can save a life, especially now with all of this human trafficking and all the stories with, you know, they put like a zip tag on your door and they put a dollar or money near your, there's all these techniques. Girls are being taken. So if you have a young girl,

it is very proactive to educate them about the realities and the tricks and the cons that people, because even me as proactive as I try to be, that whole technique with a baby crying outside your house, I would be inclined to open the door. If technique with a baby crying outside your house. I would, I would be inclined to open the door. If I hear a baby crying and someone that sounds like a mother yelling and screaming outside the house, I am that type of person. But not me, but now I am. I am.

I would, my heart with my, I would be inclined to open that door, But now with all the knowledge and some of the good things about social media Is that so much knowledge is being spread? So now we're consuming good information as well So I heard that I'm like wow, that's absolutely absolutely right. It jogs your thinking it makes you say Oh, wait a minute. I do have to put myself first. Even if someone else, a stranger, seems to be in need, I have to prioritize myself, my home, my family. So, you know, it's important to spread information and to teach your kids, even though it may be a little scary, but you do have to do it in a way

where it doesn't incite fear. How do y'all, go ahead. How y'all pick and choose what y'all decide to be transparent about? Because there's so much, much like you have stuff that you have to protect them from Just cuz they're going to school and you guys people know you But then you also have stuff that just happening in the world that they couldn't encounter with their friends Like it's just so much your kids are getting older and they're like, you know Like they they're wanting to walk by themselves with their friends

You know, if it was up to me, I'm transparent with everything right? Gia has to hold back a lot and And the reason I think I'm so- What do you mean? Well, the reason I'm so transparent, I'll explain, but the reason I'm so transparent is because- I'm nervous just now. Like, you hear that, what you mean? I want you to answer her what we mean first.

Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I mean first. I feel like we should answer Gia first. Nah, but like, you know, so some things Gia, you know, like for instance, like with Logan, right? Logan, when he was in high school, he used to get picked on all the time, right? But he used to get picked on, guess for what reason? Oh. Me and Life again?

No, because Charlamagne and Emy's gay. Dad is gay. Yes, yes. Stop being gay, I got you all the time. No, you gave me the ass, that's why. Pause. What? Wow.

Hey yo. I'm not thinking that, you know. He get thick. He gave me the butt cake. When he gave me the butt cake. That's not much better. You know what I mean. Cause. What? Wow! Ay yo! Cause. Cause. Cause. He gave me the butt cake when he gave me the butt cake.

That's not much better! You know what I mean. The butt cake cake he gave you. Oh god! No we are not about to hate Barbara's sister. Don't do that. So it used to be made fun of because of that. So, but the reason I'm so transparent is there's so many families and people dealing with

the same things but never want to talk about it right scared to so that's why I talked about The orgasm thing in the first book. That's why in this in the second book we talk about you know the time Every interview you do that equals it. Every interview. Lauren, do you want to do some research? No, no. I already know. You should tell the listeners. No, so even like in this book,

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I'm the young one. And every week we try to make each other laugh really hard. Sounds innocent, doesn't it? A lot of cussing, I'm the old one. I'm the young one. And every week we try to make each other laugh really hard. Sounds innocent, doesn't it? A lot of cussing, a lot of bad language. It's for adults only. Or listen to it with your kid. It could be a family show. We're not quite sure. We're still figuring it out. It's a work in progress. Listen to Beardless, me on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Israel Gutierrez and I'm hosting a new podcast, Dub Dynasty,

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It wasn't mine. Wait, wait, wait. He's like, oh, he found a bloody condom. Right, right. It wasn't our house, alright? No, it was at his friend's house. And he was like, um, maybe nine years old. Nine years old. He was about nine years old. But he was comfortable enough to come home and ask mom about it.

They were in the basement, and the little boy had an older brother. So what did you say? Yeah. The boy in Charlemagne gave daddy the ass. That's how you do it. That's how you do it. That's how the brother got in the house. Oh my gosh.

So that's when we had the sex talk and Gia had to have the sex talk with Logan and Madison. What kind of sex talk though? No, I'm serious. It wasn't a backdoor sex talk. It's a different era that we in. So it ain't just birds and bees. It's birds and wasps and birds and... No, I'm serious a backdoor sex talk. It ain't just birds and bees, it's birds and wasps and birds and...

No, I'm serious. They got a full-blown sex talk. They had to understand because if you leave it... No backdoor sex talk. No, no. I'm really trying to figure out why was the condom bloody. Somebody ran a writ like, or... Yeah.

Or just ripped somebody's butt open and just stringed his... Somebody ran a red light. Or, she was like, JD. You know what you were thinking, Shalala, man? He's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like. Somebody just ripped somebody's butt open and just stringed his M-shape. That was 25. Nah, somebody ran a red light, obviously. It could also be like a first time thing. Yeah. Yeah, but no, they, at that point, I found that they were old enough and mature enough.

And you're, they're encountering things. Now these conversations are being had amongst their peers. And I knew that if I didn't set them straight, that they were going to be absorbing all of this wrong information and wrong ideas. So I told them, sex feels good. It's a pleasurable experience. God made us that way because God wants us to reproduce.

He wants us to create offspring. So he made it something that we would enjoy, but it's meant for someone that you love. And that's the reason why. So they're like, Oh, okay. So what is it like? Yeah. And what did you say? Okay, if I'm being honest, I told them that there is a penis and there is a vagina and it does slide in and out and my son Logan was like So like this They're about 11 and I I'll never forget since you asked asked. He was like, so was it like, it's like, I was like, yeah, something like that. I said, you know, some people look at it as a negative thing.

No, no, no, he really didn't. No, he really didn't. He really didn't. Even even like my 11 year old son right now. He does not know. He asked me three days ago, like what does sexual mean? I said it's not for you to understand right now. So when they asked me questions that I don't want them to know about, and he's older than Logan was, but now with, I have a better grip on his friends and a grip on what he's exposed to on his phone and whatnot and parameters boundaries

So I'm really abreast of what he knows and what he doesn't and our lines of communication are Way better way better like he like those kids they come to me every day and when they get home from school Either for a half an hour an hour depending on what activity they have afterwards They have their turns they sit at the foot of my bed, they lay down or they sit down and they tell me about their entire day. They tell me the best part of their day, the worst part of their day, and one kind thing that they did for someone else that day. So that's just our routine. That's our ritual. And they tell me everything and you would be shocked and appalled to know this things that they divulge,

but it's because we create that safe space. We create that soft place to land. We create a no judgment zone. You could tell me anything. It could be the world's worst. I will never, ever judge you. I will help you fix it. We'll extract all the lessons,

everything that you need to learn from it, whether you were wrong, whether you weren't, whatever it is, like this is your safe space. And they have that foundation, so they share, they share, and we take that time, like we share. You have six kids, so was there anything, because y'all have all age groups, right? So is there anything that you felt like in the beginning y'all didn't know until y'all got to that sixth kid? Of course. Yeah, like what were some of the-

I'll give you an example. The things that you didn't know, you just was like, me and Rashaun winging this. I'll give you an example. But to speak to what you said, like we wrote a book. That doesn't mean that we know everything. And it doesn't mean that it's not an evolution. It doesn't mean that we're still learning every single day.

Like I said earlier, it's a sense of community where we share our experiences and the wins and the losses so that other people can understand they're not alone. And it comes in all shades, all forms, all fashions, all financial groups. We all speak the universal language as parents. With Logan, so one of the fails, and this was something that we disagreed on.

So it was the explaining everything to the kids. I have the patience to do it, and he really is because I said so type of guy. And it worked beautifully with Madison. But with Logan from a young age, I would explain everything to him. And he's a mama's boy. Times 30.

And he tells us. He is that boy, like we have a thing, you know? And I have a different thing with all of my kids, but me and him have our thing. Like he calls me at all times of the day, all time. He will call me at three o'clock in the morning, like at 12 o'clock in the afternoon. And she's like, yeah, what's up, mom?

What's going on? You good? Yeah, I'm good. I'm at the club, I'm about to FaceTime you. Lucas and Andrew are here. Take a look, take a look. And I'm like, what's up? Sleep is up, but okay.

You know what I mean? We're very, very close. But it kind of went wrong with him because what we found was that we created an environment where he felt that he was entitled to an explanation. And he felt as though. Because we gave him too safe of a space that he could challenge me and he can challenge a decision that I made and he's very and he's very intelligent he's very very

intelligent so Rashaun always says that I'm like a lawyer right he says all the time I know what it feels like because I have a Logan and Logan lawyers me do you know what I mean so they do it all day long. Yes. All day long. And in a lot of ways, I enjoy it because I feel like he really does challenge me. And he's one of the only people that I feel like does that in my life. And I love to see the mental exercise.

I love to see how his brain is moving and how he's getting around the things that I'm saying and things like that. So it's good at his adult age now, cause he's 21, but when he was a child, it wasn't acceptable. Because I'm going to explain, because this is what I do, but now you're not understanding

that that's a grace that I show you. It's not something that you're entitled to. This is a courtesy that I'm extending to you, but you're not entitled. So we had to dial that back. And then we had to teach boundaries and let him know his place because he started to misunderstand his place. So that was a fail in a sense. And Rashaal would always look at me like, see I told you, like see I told you. I'm always the bad guy,

cause now I gotta go discipline that, right? So now me and Logan get into it. And now you can't beat Logan, cause Logan beat Logan. So now I gotta discipline Logan and then me and Logan get into it. But one thing about Logan and all of our kids, which is the craziest thing is they're very forgiving.

Like with Logan, I have to get sometimes so disrespectful for him to understand. And the next day he's like, Hey dad, what's up? And I'm like, Hey dad, what's up? But that's how he is. And he just has conversations, but we have those conversations and we understand and we talk. But he's the one that just like his mom. Did you feel like a failure? No, no, I didn't feel like a failure, but I knew that that technique wasn't necessarily a fail, but it needed tweaking. So then we had our other four and there was a huge gap. There was about nine years between Logan and London.

So I wanted to maintain what I always believed in and how I was raised, but I wanted to implement some of because I told you so as well. Like I am going to explain to you, but I'm going to let you know that it is because I'm showing you grace and it's because I respect you.

So in turn, you have to respect me and you have to respect the decision and we can talk about it as long as it's coming from a good place and I'm not sensing any attitude from you, any entitlement from you or anything that I don't like to feel as we sit here and discuss it. So you gotta make sure you keep it right.

And my kids get it. So this pack of three, because Peyton's three years old, but my 11, my 10, and my eight, they get it. Like I tell them if they're really curious, they might question, and then after I say it again, they're like, okay, absolutely, whatever it is. And so it's through that trial and error with Madison and Logan that we're able to take

all the good stuff, you know, all the good stuff and pour it into this second batch of kids. No, go ahead. I feel like I'm asking so much. So no, it's okay. So in the beginning. Stella, shut up. Go on, baby. Nah, I'm not doing it. Shut up, man. That's where I started from. I in the beginning. Stella shut up. Going back.

No, I'm not doing it. That's where it started from. I'm not doing it. Cause now we might come over there with you together. Don't say that. So, no, again, so going back to something you said earlier, you were saying that the past two years was very traumatic and not getting into that.

How challenging was it writing this book? Like was there ever moments where you and Rashawn or just you like broke down, like not like giving up, but it was challenging for you to get deep into any, you know, any of the chapters or what you went through within the past two years. You know what, I'll be honest with you. No pun intended, but I'm an open book.

I'm not a private person. I've never been a very private person. And it's because I feel as though the value in life is truth. Yeah. You know, even if it's not pretty, you know, there's no value to anything. If it's not honest, if it's not true, if it's not transparent, if it's BS, it's worthless. You know, if you wrap everything in a pretty bow, it's worthless because who can relate to you? Nobody. I can't relate to people that appear to

be perfect or pretend to be perfect because I don't know you. I don't know anybody like you. You know what I mean? So anytime that I'm honest or I'm vulnerable about something, to me it's like giving a little gift from myself. It's sharing something that I know other people wouldn't share because they'd be too embarrassed or it disrupts the image that they're trying to present. So that I don't respect. So it's very easy for me to tell my truth from where I genuinely come from. I love that y'all have a family mission statement. Yes. What is the mission statement'all have a family mission statement. Yeah. Yes.

What is the mission statement? And tell people the importance of that. Well, just so we know, we don't have it on our wall and then make the kids read it when they walk in the house. It's not that type of mission statement. It's not like that. So our mission statement is just something that we, as a family, we all live by, right?

And I'll read some of them. And the reason is, is we are a close unit, right? So if you see us together, we are all always out together. You see me the other day with Jackson. You see me before, and Charlamagne has seen me before. So the mission statement is we are a unit, right? We all ride together. Like we are really a unit.

A unit. I'm an only child, so I'm heavy into taking care of each other, right? We respect each other. Of course, it's simple. We make sure that we respect each other's feelings. We always have each other's backs. That's one thing that we always do.

And sometimes when we have conversations up here, I always talk about my kids. So when they see stuff on social media, at times I have to stop them because they will go in, especially Logan. Logan will go in and he'll be like that. We always love to uplift each other and point out the good in one another, right?

So we see that more, especially with our girls in dance, because they compete against each other a lot. So when they do, we have to make sure that regardless of what happens, like a couple of weeks ago, London lost and we thought London got jerked. So I told, you know, I had a conversation with Brooklyn and Brooklyn was like, dad, don't worry, I'm gonna get first and second for her.

And she went out there and bust ass and got first and second. She got first place and second place. And gave the first place to her sister because that's what it was. We represent each other at all times, that's how it always is. So we always tell our kids, if we're not there,

you make sure that those parents come back and say, oh my gosh, he was such a pleasure. He was polite, he was this. Even with Jackson at the game, Jackson said thank you a million and one times to you, he said hello a million and one times to you because that's what he's taught to do. That you show respect.

One second before you go on. With that, my goal for my kids is that when they leave our house, I want everyone that they come in contact with to know that they're well loved. Do you know what I mean? I want them to know that they're well loved. What we teach you inside this house,

you exemplify outside of this house. And it's so interesting because, you know, as parents, we have a goal, you know? And these are goals that we vocalize to one another. So when we get calls from other parents, when our kids are on a play date, teachers, principals, both sets of kids went to a new school and we got calls from the teachers like, what are you guys doing in that house?

What are you doing with these kids? I've never seen this before and all three of them are like this. It lets you know that you're doing something right. You're doing something meaningful. Those teachers know that they're doing something right. You're doing something meaningful. Those teachers know that they're well loved. And of course, other children are well loved. It's not that, but it's coming from a mental space that you understand. And like what we talked about earlier,

about articulating words and things. When you articulate something to a child and you do it in a way where they understand what it means and what their actions mean, when you articulate something to a child and you do it in a way where they understand what it means and what their actions mean, because you can love your child to death. You could take a bullet for them, you work hard, you hustle, you do everything for your kids, you love your kids, but they could still go out and be a menace.

Because the lessons may be lost. And these are things that a lot of parents don't put into perspective when raising children. Because what do we usually do? We take it, we take like, you know, an idea and we throw it up against the wall and we see if it sticks or not. You know what I mean? Oh, that worked. Oh, that didn't. Okay. But a lot of people don't have something tangible that they can go back to and be like, this is a way to create a foundation. This is a way to create a structure.

And because we had so many ups and downs, we were able to do that and put it in one place. And I think the biggest story, I know you hate when I tell the story was Jackson, right? So we had a parent-teacher's night a couple of weeks ago and a teacher came up to me. A teacher that I had no idea who he was. He came up to me.

He was a STEM Knight. A STEM Knight, right. So he walks up to me, he was like, are you Jackson's dad? I'm like, yeah. A teacher usually asks that, usually some BS, right? So I'm like, oh, here we go, what did Jackson do? And he was like, I just want to tell you,

Jackson did something that no child or adult has done in my life. I'm like, well, what was that? And he was like, the other day I'm walking down a hall and Jackson comes running up to me and he goes, are you okay? And the teacher was like, what do you mean? he was like, the other day I'm walking down a hall and Jackson comes running up to me and he goes, you know, are you okay? And the teacher was like, what do you mean? He was like, you just don't look as happy as you usually do. Are you all right?

Is anything bothering you? Would you like to have a conversation with me and just talk it through? He is a mother child. He's my psychiatrist. That is real. The teacher was like, what? He was like, nah, you just don't seem as happy as you do,

but don't let things stress you out. Just pray on it and tomorrow will be better, right? And if you need to talk to me, come talk to me." And he said, Jackson ran off, and he was like, I've never had an adult or a child ever do that to me. So he was like, whatever you're doing at home, continue that. And, you know what I mean, that just shows what the kids are learning at home is worth everything.

You know what I mean? So... You need to report that to your teachers, too. He don't need to be in the school system. He don't need the net. He can't never get around with the net. It ain't never had a white-tailed man. The next day, he probably was like, you got some but at the parent teacher conference, one of the teachers said that if she could use one word to describe Jackson, it would be grateful.

And she said in 30 years of teaching, I've never used that word with a child before. I said, well, what do you mean by grateful? He says she said every day after every lesson, he comes up to me and says, thank you for teaching me today. And I said, really? And he said, she said, where like, where did, like, where's he got that from? Like, what's what's good? Like, you know, I said, that's his own interpretation. But when he plays sports, after every game, I tell him to shake the

referee's hand and look him in the eye. Look him in the eye. Go to the coach. A nice strong handshake and say thank you. And do the same thing with your coach. Because these are people that give their time that don't have to give their time. And it's for you and for your benefit in your learning and your greatness.

So you acknowledge that man or that woman and you say thank you. So I think that that's his interpretation how he's doing it in another way. You know what I mean? Y'all are such a beautiful family. You are such a good guy. Thank you. Thank you. So I think that that's his interpretation how he's doing it in another way. You know what I mean? Y'all are such a beautiful family man. Thank you. Thank you. And this man will crash out for any of y'all. I know.

No C-Bow. Jessica seen me do a behind the scenes a bunch of times. And Jessica was like, yo you crash out for your family. I'm like, you're god damn right. What? Tell me I'm interested. She's crashing out. Excuse me? Huh? Nothing. Now shut what. What? Tell me I'm interested. I'm taking it. Okay. Excuse me?

Huh? Nothing. No, I don't. Now shut up. Anyway, when is baby number seven coming? I'm so annoying. The shop is closed. Yeah, we don't have no more kids.

The ship has sailed. Well, the shop is not closed. Okay. When you say closed, meaning snip, snip, we ain't snitching. Oh, no, no. There's no snip, snip. But I know how not to get pregnant. Oh, you don't want them to get a vasectomy?

Huh? My wife wants me to get a vasectomy. No, no. I don't want them to get a vasectomy. Yeah, you don't want them to get vasectomy? Huh? My wife wants me to get vasectomy. No, no. I don't want him to get vasectomy. Yeah, we not having no more kids. Right, so in case you ever wanted... No, I just don't think it's necessary. I know how not to get pregnant. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Say that again. No, but... The wives out there who want their husbands to get vasectomies. I'm sorry? Say that again for the wives who want their husbands to get vasectomies.

I don't know. Other women may have gotten pregnant unintentionally and have a different view, but me personally, I just, you know, like people have asked me like, do you want to get your tubes tied? I just like our natural bodies. And I like them to function the way that they function. And if I can take a human precaution to prevent a particular result, then I'll do that. I don't think that it's, for me, it's not necessary.

I absolutely understand why people do both of those procedures, but for me, I just don't find it to be necessary. That's all. Word. You know? I can't find my head. Oh God.

Okay, real life, real family. Exactly. April 15th, it'll be out in bookstores everywhere, everywhere you buy books, man. Gear, thank you for pulling up. That's right. Thank you so much. You can pre-order on Amazon right now. And for everybody else,

we just wanna add this last part. We actually wrote it with somebody that helped us out, that, we wanna talk about that, that helped us with terms and helped us with different phrases and helped us with, made sure that we were actually doing the right thing when it came to raising our kids. Yeah, so we wrote it alongside a psychologist

because, yes, because we wanted to make sure that our outlooks were on the level that I would want to put it out to the public. I wanted the psychological research and quarterbacking behind the way that we parent to pretty much put a stamp on it. To know that what we're doing, not just from our personal, experience-driven point of view is sound, but from a psychological point of view is also sound.

I wanted to make sure that alongside the truth and the transparency and the experience, that we had that backing to the book as well. I wanted that level of value in the book as well. So, and also, you know, if you have a child with anxiety, backing to the book as well. I wanted that level of value in the book as well. And also, you know, if you have a child with anxiety, ADD, ADHD, other setbacks, other disabilities, you know, we speak to you in this book as well because those people are very,

like they don't have that many resources. This book is for anyone who is a parent, a single parent, a parent that is married. A single woman, but maybe about to have kids in the next couple of days. Someone that wants to have a child. I didn't look at you Lauren. Wow.

Nobody looked at you Lauren. First of all, you did look over here. I looked at you. Thank you. It's forever, it's a very relatable book and there's a lot of exercises in the book. We kind of also created it in like a workbook style. So there's a lot of reflections,

there's a lot of places in there for you to answer questions so you can kind of analyze yourself and understand your own point of view in a way of like articulation, where if you haven't really thought about certain things, it'll jog you to think about things. And even if you don't take our take, it encourages you and helps you to come up

with your own takes on parenting. So. Yeah, you have it. April 15th, guys, pre-order it now. Pre-order it now! Real family. That's right. It's the KC crew.

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