The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Glasses Malone On Street Ethics, Jada & Will, Men Marrying Hoes + More

Episode Date: November 1, 2023

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Starting point is 00:03:32 We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. My guy. Glasses Malone. What's happening, dog? Welcome back, brother. Crying and laughing, man. What happened, G?
Starting point is 00:03:41 It's been eventful, dog. You just walked in. No. This trip to New York. Every time I come to New York, the's been eventful, dog. You just walked in. No. This trip to New York. Every time I come to New York, the trip being eventful. Okay. My Toro called a flat. Your rental?
Starting point is 00:03:52 Yeah, my Toro, right? Why you calling it a Toro? That's what it is. Toro. You rent it off a Toro. Toro. Okay, okay, okay. It's not big here, but Toro is big everywhere.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Got you, got you. So it's like, so we got here. As soon as we got off the airplane, right, we got off of LaGuardia so we get to the two-wheel and pick up the car. The car is sketchy because the man
Starting point is 00:04:10 didn't change it in the last minute. So he went from a 2020 Camry to a 2017 Elantra. Okay. You know, you notice a difference.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I don't know how to turn the lights on. I ain't used to getting in cars that the lights don't automatically come on at this point. Right. As soon as we get,
Starting point is 00:04:23 we leave and we go into Queens to eat at this little barbecue spot the police pull us over have us for 30 minutes damn so i'm just thinking this whole trip it's just been crazy i'm like soon as we get pulled over right the man asking us all kind of questions like what y'all doing in new york i was like man i'm coming to do some press and this then the third so we telling him we come from the airport i showed the man the ticket and everything the man just talking to me cousin, cousin, I'm like, yeah, man, we just came in. He's like, you know, y'all got something in the luggage?
Starting point is 00:04:48 Nigga, we had to be the greatest international smugglers in the world to get it from the airport. So we get there, we finally eat, bam, we go to the Airbnbs. So they let y'all go?
Starting point is 00:04:57 Yeah, but it took 30 minutes. What was the reason? He didn't say? The lights wasn't on in the car. Oh, he just said the lights wasn't on in the car. Right, right, right. You got you, you got you.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Yeah, but it was just weird. Then the next day, we going to meet up with a homie my homeboy trey uh they're writing stuff for the athletic and new york times he uh he's a writer for sports and stuff trey edwards the two-row catch a flat when we coming through the lincoln tunnel so then we stuck on 55th and what's that 55th and like uh probably like fifth avenue just parked on the street in front of dunkin donuts for like four hours maybe that was a sign to get some donuts i know we even got some steak okay and then i went to my favorite steakhouse then i went to my favorite my favorite steakhouse
Starting point is 00:05:34 in new york um uh del fresco's they wouldn't let us in with sweats the del fresco shades up yeah it was 2019 so i'm like damn so we can't eat at my favorite so we go to another steakhouse and it was cool and we waited on the people from two rows so we reported the whole the whole shit and they sent the roadside assistance and by the time the roadside assistance to come it's eight hours the tire shop is two blocks yeah you could have just drove two blocks and got to fix yourself well not on a flat tire just well yeah nail they could have ran on now so then i didn't know the address changed. It's just been an eventful New York. But you went to the old address this morning.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Yeah. That's what, yeah. Was it boarded up? Yeah, it was weird. You couldn't get in. It had a weird door to the lobby. And the man was like, yeah, we ain't, you know, they left in January. Oh, we've been going.
Starting point is 00:06:17 We've been going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know why the producer didn't tell you that. It's all good. It's just been one of them New York trips. Well, we happy to have you here, John. Yeah, absolutely. Minus all the bullshit.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Hey, man, it's all good. That's what it's doing. Cancel trips well we happy to have you here minus all the bullshit hey man it's all good this is what i got cancel these nuts out hey here you go okay hold up hold up why are you still doing physical cds you know i already bought 10 of these i have them for you right now too okay hold up i got something for you every special right here yeah oh that's dope why are you still doing this g why still see these so as an independent car right you sell 4 000 copies i sell mine's autograph at 25 that's how you do your business simple as that got you got everything else for streaming is good you know what i mean but that's a royalty you still got to sell music my music good enough though yeah yeah i really believe my good enough to sell so i'll be selling this though and it's called cancel these nuts yeah well explain that title it's called Cancel These Nuts. Explain that title. It's pretty. It's pretty self-explanatory.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Well, you know, I mean, you talk to me enough to know I don't really give a, I really just, I'm honest with what I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm not really intimidated. I feel like the industry, you know, the powers that be didn't make me, so they can't break me and they can't take what I'm saying. So I'm just saying all the stuff I want to say. I think Cancel Culture is on its last legs anyway.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I actually think it's over because I think people finally realize that it's all a circular firing squad. So you may shoot at that person today, but then it's going to come around to your turn eventually. Absolutely. So you feel like it's only big because they're like, I don't want nobody to remember I did this shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I think everybody's like, I don't want to be a hypocrite i don't want to contradict myself i know i probably got some bullshit that people could bring up too and if you if you hold everybody to the same standard it's only a matter of time before it's either you or somebody you really really fuck with that they calling to get canceled so which side you're gonna be on yeah i we definitely in a space where i think everything is starting to be just obviously true like you know i mean you i remember five years ago jayden will was gold that shit spoiled like milk now nobody know what to do so i think council coach is the same thing i think all the ideas was never nothing permanent anyway yeah that's why i kind of don't really get
Starting point is 00:08:22 on trends like that but i think what you're saying is uh you know everybody has this uh vision of perfection whether it was jayden will they had a vision of perfection whether it's the way we supposed to move as a society it's a vision of perfection nothing's perfect yeah but that's what i'm saying like how do we start at that place from like how do we get started with there i was just having this whole conversation about the same thing. Like, there's no way possible, especially women, chase that specific thing, perfection. And there's no way possible. So even setting somebody else as a goal is ridiculous. I was just listening to this shit Jay-Z was saying. He was like, 500,000.
Starting point is 00:08:57 He was like, yeah, I'll just take the 500,000. Jay-Z said that about Jay-Z for the 500,000. Yep. And I was like, damn, well, the truth is coming. It's like my time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a good time to be alive for me. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:09:09 It's honest. Niggas telling the truth. Well, you've always been truthful, though. You've always been honest, though. That's what I'm saying. But at that time, the world wasn't really accepting to the truth. Last time I was here, niggas was threatening my life over a song. Yeah, where you did Tupac Must Die song.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Yeah. And I was like, why are you mad at me for telling the truth? It was another nigga that made the song. He made a song that was like some kind of crazy Tupac conspiracy idea about soul and Illuminati and shit. And I remember watching his interview. He was like, man, this guy stole my song. And I was like, I never heard of him.
Starting point is 00:09:36 And in the interview, he's like, yeah, you know, well, if glasses, you know, in his story, that don't even make sense. Who ever heard a story like that? I bet you that nigga somewhere looking like, oh, shit. But you had firsthand knowledge of the situation. Not only just firsthand knowledge. It was just common knowledge amongst everybody in the streets in L.A. We all knew in real time what was going on.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Well, you shouldn't have put it in the song. You should have sat down with Black TV and told the story. No, no, no, no. Keefy. What's your thoughts on the Keefy situation? Keefy is crazy, man. I'm praying for him. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:09 He in a tough situation. It's going to be tough as a motherfucker. You know what I mean? You got to fight a case, but I'm sure you're going to get attorney, good representation, and I doubt that a lot of the interviews is something they could really use.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I'm interested to see the discovery to see what they really have as far as evidence. Why are they using this book in those interviews? Yeah, I need to see it. You got to make that work. Because Vlad said they even reached out to him to get the raw footage. Cuz was on the news. He was like, yeah, you know, my interviews.
Starting point is 00:10:33 I was like, this nigga is tripping. He need a Peabody. I already told you that. That is true. As a journalist. Yeah, sure. Yes. As a journalist.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Now, why has it been eight years since Glasshouse 2? Glasshouse 2 was your last album. Yeah. Same mission, man. When I first started figuring all this stuff out, I was learning hip hop
Starting point is 00:10:51 last time I saw y'all. You know what I mean? Before the last time, I was just figuring it all out. Same thing, figuring it all out and taking my time, getting back into the space
Starting point is 00:10:58 to make sure I can make something that represented where we was at as far as the ghetto in general. And there's so many, where street urban culture at as a whole is in such a funky place to where like you could like a rapper dog and he'll be your guy and he'd be busting he got all the cuts but then he'll do some whole ass and then you'll be stuck with him some that don't represent you like you
Starting point is 00:11:21 might like this rapper right and then cuz gonna just wear some fingernail polish but stop looking for perfection you can't the same way we can't look for perfection in jayden will or people in your street shit you can't look for perfection i don't know if that would still be a street fingernail polish though no why not because that's not cool to you to me well first of all you know i hate the street conversation because i think the street shit is silly but if you're the ultimate street nigga. Duh. Killer, killer, killer, killer, killer. Took out all your ass.
Starting point is 00:11:48 That's not what being a... I'm just saying. Yeah. You just took out all your ass. This motherfucker always go the furthest extreme. You got all the kilos of coke. You got it. You got it on lock.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Sure. Because you got painted fingernails. Does that make you soft? Nobody who got all the cocaine will paint their fingernails. Why not? It's a new day and age, guys. That's not what it is. That's not what it is.
Starting point is 00:12:09 If you like this rapper, right, he wearing a dress. Or if you like this rapper, he wearing a purse. It's like they know it. Y'all don't really believe in your heart that there's something going on? But the street dudes will wear dresses. And the street dudes that wear purses. No street dudes that wear dresses ever. This new generation different.
Starting point is 00:12:24 It's not the generation. Glasses. You don't see people, men wearing purses all the time? No. Only niggas that follow rap. I've never been to a ghetto and niggas was wearing purses. You can't go to one borough. You can't go to Monk's Corner, even in the country or any ghetto,
Starting point is 00:12:38 and niggas is walking around with purses. Where is this happening? Well, I ain't been into the hood in a long time, so I don't know what they doing. But what if they did and they had the purse and they had a Glock in there ready to bust. They would be a girl with a gun. Girls got guns. So girls can't be street?
Starting point is 00:12:54 Yes, they are. But it's a girl. You can be a non-binary street nigga, G. No, you can't. You can't. No. Look, you got to think eventually that it's a reason they doing it. Yeah. This ain't as simple as I just wanted. You know, I just felt I want.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Come on, man. No, no man wakes up wanting to just wear a purse. That is we've never saw a person like, man, that's nice. I want that. That don't even connect. So, again, we be in these weird spaces where we just, again, we still kind of just be feminine. I can't go to no ghetto and every man is walking around with a purse. It's still going to be a selective few who trying to go against the grain based off of what they saw somebody else. So what does the street do in 2023? Anybody that grew up in street urban culture. It don't mean you have to be a criminal. It's just, it raise you. You you know really religion and street
Starting point is 00:13:45 ethics are the only thing that create morality regular people don't have morals it's just they go by laws they don't really have no morals i don't think street people have morals anymore of course they do if you from the street you don't have no choice because you got to be whatever you say it's gonna come with accountability i i i get what mb saying i feel like they used to have a certain amount of principles. I don't know if I would call it morals. I would say principles in the street. I don't know if those principles... I think morals and ethics too. Because there's certain things that wouldn't happen back in the day. But again, everything always happened back in the day,
Starting point is 00:14:15 right? But it was also... I think we keep confusing what we're seeing on social media as the streets. And it's not. That's the truth. That's not the streets. it's not that's that's the truth is there that's not the street social media is a completely different place that you can go and do anything so when I talk to my own boys it's the same thing they don't need to talk about that's how you got this Gucci purse not one ghetto I don't care if I call my god you feel about it it's not me see that's they know how you feel about no i listen that is not true nobody's wearing a purse why would a man wear a purse they got man purses the what they call it the one that's man bag strap yeah a man a satchel satchel not a purse it's a satchel we'll call it a satchel that's not no they actually no they be wearing. They be a Gucci satchel? No, they be wearing purses. Like designer purses.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Or fingernail polish. Or dresses. They wearing Birkins and I seen. Or telling. It's like telling. Like we can't even come to. What brand is that? Snitching.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Oh. What brand is that? Is that a new brand? What brand is that? This guy is crazy. Man. But it seems like it's so normal right now. People accept this.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Why do we act like, first of all, snitching ain't normal. I mean, snitching ain't new. I don't know a time when they haven't. It's normalized now, though. It's normalized. It's always been normal. No, it hasn't. But it's not normal.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Again, what's going on on the internet ain't. Like, hip-hop really used to be a representation of what was going on in the community at this point it's far this it's like removed like i don't know it's not the same i agree right people have always snitched and back in the day niggas used to have like shame like you didn't just die for snitching you moved off and you realized the street life wasn't for you some people got killed some people got beat up in stitches and all that. But for the most part, you know, people usually just move off. They would just go off into the yonder and realize, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:11 go by the Andre, change his name. He ain't Big Dre no more. He Andre. He just some regular nigga living his life, working at the factory. Now niggas will be in the midst of shit still right then and there. The only thing that's changed is niggas don't have shame no more. Shame is missing. So snitching has always happened right but it used to come with accountability it wouldn't be like in gunner's situation he wouldn't be around his motherfucker flaunting around like
Starting point is 00:16:36 hey i'm gonna go do concerts i'm gonna do this i'm gonna showcase myself blah blah blah blah he'd be like all right let me go sit my ass down let me not talk tough you know what i mean obviously this is not cut out for me now i was like okay well the average human average everyday person don't really care so i can still make my money so they don't even care about what's going on like their reputation they just like well fucking i'm you don't think gonna getting a bad or a bad rap because the person that he allegedly told on hasn't said that. And his dad, Thug's dad, even said Gunna didn't do anything that would hurt Thug's case. That's just a lie. It's just not true. If the whole premise of your case is built off of, if the whole charge is you are running a record label that's a gang.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Why is Sellers a gang? And somebody says, yes, it is a gang. It's obvious. It's not even like, one of my young homies mom my young homie real he was like oh man you know i need to see paperwork bro it's on tape but it's obvious they it's obvious they said they said they were a gang in records and stuff but you have to deny it that's the point of it so right you have to deny it when it's a legal charge so when he was like yes are you saying that ysl is a street yes ma'am that's telling so thug's father saying him
Starting point is 00:17:47 what gunna said had nothing to do did not hurt their case in no way it's not it's not about does it hurt the case if let's say if you get on the stand and you point somebody out and you tell the truth but they disregard your testimony nigga you still a snitch that don't have nothing to do with what happened to him you gunna should be walking somewhere doing a walk of shame somewhere sitting off making gospel rap something but didn't everybody in that case do the same thing i don't have the video yeah they had plenty of videos no remember remember the gunner video was different because the niggas snuck to get it that would have never no they had video for all of those ysls i didn't see them yeah no i seen the one specifically right here but the thing is i don't know none of the rest of them people and i hope the rest of the they had a video from all of those YSLs? I didn't see them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I seen the one specifically right here.
Starting point is 00:18:26 But the thing is, I don't know none of the rest of them people. And I hope the rest of the people ain't just walking around Atlanta if they told on their men, if they ain't walking around Atlanta like, oh, you know, hey, I'm back in the streets thugging.
Starting point is 00:18:36 So what if Thug comes out and Thug said he didn't tell on me? I don't give a fuck if Jesus come down himself and say, that is telling. I'm wise enough and smart enough to know exactly what
Starting point is 00:18:45 telling is that's telling but gunner music still jamming yeah i'm not listen man uh you're gonna write a microphone on the new york streets he might make some dope records i'm not i'm not knocking it i'm saying he don't even have shame like nigga make gospel rap well let me ask you a question so does that mean other rappers other rappers, should not do songs with him or support him because of who he claims to be and who he is? Again, so I think a lot of people. Who does Gunna claim to be, though? I'm confused.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Well, Crip first. That was the first problem. That was my first. Oh, I didn't know he was that. Yeah, he was like, yeah, it's Crip. He was like Neighborhood. But now it's like, that look crazy. But I don't think it's a, I think for most street rappers,
Starting point is 00:19:24 they trying to change their life so they may not maintain the same ethics you know what I mean they so everybody got to make their own decision you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:19:32 I don't I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire damn I like Gunna but I ain't in the street so
Starting point is 00:19:39 and it's not to say and most people that listen to hip hop aren't yeah I'm not mad at them I'm not telling he sold out two shows
Starting point is 00:19:47 he sold out a show in New York sold out a show in LA yeah but why would the average everyday person care about morals well now
Starting point is 00:19:54 street street morals not even street morals this is something if you was at right now if we had a job and we had this job and a motherfucker
Starting point is 00:20:02 came and stole something and then somebody told they stole you'd be mad if they snitch and stole something, and then somebody told they stole. You'll be mad at they snitching ass too. This is not. Depends what they stole. No matter what they stole. Like if you took something and somebody told on you,
Starting point is 00:20:14 you're going to look at that person crazy. No, I'm not. I shouldn't have stole in front of that person. That's true, but that don't change. That don't change at this person particularly. No, because I stole. I know I did something wrong. I can't be mad at the person for pointing out that i did something wrong i did something wrong of course you can't if y'all did it together but that's different that's what you say that now
Starting point is 00:20:32 yeah yeah that's different if we stole something together yeah and then he went and told on me like he didn't do it that's a different that's what happened and that's what snitching is all about snitching really simply put man it's it's getting out of control. It's when a criminal tells on a crime to avoid accountability for their own crime. There is a lot of other shit we could talk about. We could start breaking it down to all the nuances of street, but really snitching don't have nothing to do with like thugging or blah, blah, blah. It's about accountability. Street life in general is more about accountability and masculinity than everything.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Being responsible, saying what you mean, meaning meaning what you say standing by what you said it's accountability it's not this ignorant kind of concept it's primitive at times but it's not ignorant it's all about accountability so okay so with that said me and you commit a crime together I'm sitting in my cell I have a revelation oh and now I want to hold myself accountable yeah so I decided to say hey glasses I'm telling on both of us or Charlamagne talked about it before he was driving in the car with his homies he got pulled over one of his homies had something legal yeah cocaine on them Charlamagne didn't know it was in the car with his homies. He got pulled over. One of his homies had something illegal. They had cocaine on them. Charlamagne didn't know it was in the car.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I had no idea. Charlamagne's tells. They're not working with Wendy Williams. No. I didn't tell. I'm in the backseat of the car. Charlamagne said, you better tell or I'm going to tell. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:21:55 He handed over his license and registration. And inside the license and registration, he had three grams of cocaine. I didn't know. So I'm talking shit to the police, really cracking jokes, whatever, whatever. The police are like, put your hand behind your back.'m like oh what i didn't say that went too far we found cocaine i'm like cocaine who had cocaine and he was the cop was like whose is it i said it's not mine so let's use the process of elimination it's one of these two individuals okay i mean look was y'all doing lines no i ain't your goal to do lines? Was y'all goal to do lines at night?
Starting point is 00:22:26 I didn't even know he had no cocaine. No. Okay, so listen. So look, if you're not thugging or if you're not in any street life, this is just simple street life, then it don't have nothing to do with you. And really, your partner should be like, this is mine. Absolutely. He waited until we got to the jail to do it, which is too late then.
Starting point is 00:22:48 He thought about it on the way down. Yeah, that's what happened. Charlamagne was like, either you're going to tell him or I'm going to tell him. That's probably what happened. Accountability. So, yeah, but if me and my homeboy, let's say if I'm with Joey, right, if I'm with Joey Westside, and I know he not thugging and I got a gun, it's going to be my gun.
Starting point is 00:23:01 I'm not going to let him get in trouble for my gun. But that's just being a man that's all street life is about in general even whether you're a criminal or not it's just about being a man and standing up for all of the right things you'll never get tired of being in the street g no why i mean it's not being anywhere right like my my conduct is consistent with the upbringing right why would i change my moral code for what like i walk in the breakfast club or if i walk anywhere what's the point of what am i changing my moral code to like the only next thing is like religion like where where else would i go
Starting point is 00:23:35 like i wouldn't want to be a regular person motherfuckers is the scum of the fucking earth you mean like you don't stand by nothing you know know, people mistreat each other. They don't, they say mean shit to each other. You could be driving, motherfucker, be like, shut up, and call you crazy. The tow truck man that was in the Uber called a nigga a bitch. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't want to. So you're telling me that a man that calls somebody a woman a bitch don't have no morals? Yeah, if you call, no, a man, he called another man a bitch.
Starting point is 00:24:03 If you call a woman a bitch, what is, that's. I don't know. That's, you probably don't know how to communicate. A man called a woman a bitch or he called another dude a bitch? No man, he called another man a bitch. If you call a woman a bitch, that's. I don't know. That's, you probably don't know how to communicate. The man called a woman a bitch or he called another dude a bitch? No, a man called a man a bitch. So it was a man hitting a U-turn. You know how New York motherfuckers been driving and shit. So it was a man in a carriage and he hit a U-turn in front of the tow truck.
Starting point is 00:24:18 And the motherfucker was like, yeah, you know, you bitch ass motherfucker. And, you know, your driver don't know how to drive. And it's like, see that, like, where I come from, you call, your, your, your, your driver don't know how to drive. And it's like, see that, like where I come from, you call a man, another man, a bitch,
Starting point is 00:24:28 you better be ready to fight. And I think in regular life, if you hit a motherfucker for calling them a bitch, they'd be like, Oh, you know, they'll call the police. Like I didn't put my hands on you.
Starting point is 00:24:37 But what about calling a woman a bitch? Because that woman is somebody's sister, somebody's wife, somebody's daughter. So what does that man want to fight you? Cause you called a woman a bitch? That's the point. You got to take the fact, right?
Starting point is 00:24:47 You squabble. Okay. So it's all about being a camera. Nobody want to squabble, though. So you call that man a bitch, right? Mm-hmm. Now, that man comes and snuffs you. You call the police, and he gets arrested, and now you press charges.
Starting point is 00:24:59 That's no morals. That's what I'm saying. Why is that no morals? You can't call me a bitch, and then when I react to you calling me a bitch and punch you in the face. Now you be like, 911, what's your emergency? He punched me in the face. You started. Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:09 If you don't want no action, don't call me a bitch. I agree with that. But that doesn't mean I still reserve the right to call 911. No, you don't. I agree with you. Why would you? And see, that's what I'm saying. I agree with him.
Starting point is 00:25:17 In that middle, like religious people, morally, the goal is to be here. The streets is here. Regular people don't really have no moral they don't have no true sense of accountability i agree with what envy just said not because of the street shit and i agree what you're saying but not because of street shit just because i like to see people have to deal with the consequences of their action that's what the streets so if you punch me in the face you got to deal with the consequences of that action but that's regardless of what it is like if i call you a bitch i got to deal with that sure if you punch me in the face now you got to deal with whatever consequences of that action, but that's regardless of what it is If I call you a bitch, I got to deal with that
Starting point is 00:25:46 So if you punch me in the face now, you got to deal with whatever that comes correct And it might come with me calling 9-1-1 But nowadays you have to know that if Charlemagne or somebody's calling you a bitch is usually a setup Right because they want to set you up to punch me in the face. And then what you have they gonna arrest you They're gonna miss work for nine months. They're gonna sue you I'm just hoping you're not doing that. I'm hoping you don't do that I'm hoping I can get that's the thing right everybody hope they can do some shit and hope nobody reacts not be accountable so so when you ask me about do i it's
Starting point is 00:26:13 it's not being in the streets is not like a location right it's a it's a conduct it's a way you act it's a way you really is rooted in masculinity and accountability it's being responsible i can make you can be a man and have accountability without being in the street? No. Yeah. But when you say being in the streets, that's where you get the sense of accountability from. Obviously, I'm not selling
Starting point is 00:26:35 Sherm on 117th Street no more, right? But the conduct still remains the same. I didn't assimilate into mainstream. I didn't become successful and change my life and then start, okay, well, I'm going to still enjoy Gunna's music, even though he don't have no shame and he told on that man. Like, that don't change.
Starting point is 00:26:53 My conduct, my codes, my moral, my behavior, the moral compass doesn't change. You got a song on the new album called Kanye Should Have Never Married That Bitch. Yeah. Jesus. Talk to us about that record. What do you mean, is that bad, G?
Starting point is 00:27:08 Is that really bad? Yes, that's bad. Why? You calling the mother of his child a bitch. Now, if Kanye comes and swings on you, now what happens from there? That's fair. We can line it up. It's a fair fight.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Like, if he wanted to fight, if he called me like, Glass, I need that fight. Now, if he snuffs you, knock you down, he's worth close to a billion. I'm not suing him. First off, I'm going to get up and dust cuz off or he finna win either way we finna fight but um the idea of the song was turning the hole into a housewife i just feel like in today's time he's his glasses that's not that bad is that really that we didn't got that far yeah i mean i just don't i don't i don't see the need to call her that not uh what's the bitch or hoe both man Yeah. I mean, I just don't see the need to call her that.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Not. What's, the bitch or a hoe? Both, man. What? What? Both glasses. That's that man's wife or ex-wife. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:27:59 See, snooping them back in the day, it wasn't right when they did it, but they never put a name to it. Why wasn't it right? They never put a name to it. They didn't label. There was certain people that you, come on, G-style. I'm serious. You can never put a name to it and they didn't label like there was certain like there was certain views like you come on g style like that i'm saying just you can't put a label so you can't call a ho ho maybe maybe a generalization but you can't say that person right there is a whole why not if they're whole what if they're not they are but they're not going anymore what we got messed up at is we started referring to all women as hoes correct
Starting point is 00:28:23 but we all knew all women wasn't hoes. We didn't. We didn't say it enough. No, no. We knew it, even if nobody else knew it. We knew all women wasn't hoes, but what's wrong with a girl if she's a hoe to call her a hoe? But she's not a hoe anymore, though. But she's a mom and a housewife now, right? A businesswoman. Well, I mean...
Starting point is 00:28:40 You could have said, Kanye, she'd have married that businesswoman. If you get arrested for a felony and you go to prison, you get out of jail and you fill out the application, when they ask you are you a felon, why can't you say I'm not a felon anymore? What if I got pardoned? Hmm? What if I got pardoned?
Starting point is 00:28:52 Okay, well, who pardoned her? Jimmy, the paperwork's not changed. Jimmy, the paperwork's not changed. Oh, my God. No, so listen. No, because look. Hold up. Man, glass God. No, so listen. The idea, no, because look. Hold up. Man, glass is so crazy, man.
Starting point is 00:29:08 And I'm so serious, guys. No, this is a serious part. So we wrote the song, right? Don't, you can't turn a hoe into a housewife. That's the idea of the song, right? And I just felt like we're in a weird time where people are really trying to wife whores. This is a big movement going on.
Starting point is 00:29:24 It's a lot of really un street and un unaccountable things right and it's like people are not accountable so they're just doing anything and so when we wrote the song we wasn't it wasn't even it's not specifically about them nobody was even thinking about kanye or kim when we wrote the music we just wrote the music to be honest i'm just listening to the song and i'm like damn you know the idea of the song was called that bitch right that bitch belonged to the streets but i was thinking about it we're in such a time where nobody is actually like it's hard for people to put a face to an idea because it's so far out of their wheelhouses every day and i was like damn who going through something that proves and validates this idea and Kanye just look at his situation well I guess everybody has a past is what I would
Starting point is 00:30:10 say sure men and women but we don't get to say we not that no more but you can also say that maybe if you go to prison and you get two felonies for the rest of your life you're a felon that's like that's saying nobody can evolve so Malcolm X wasn't always Malcolm Little I mean Malcolm Little didn't stay Malcolm Little. He became Malcolm X. Totally agree. So you can definitely evolve and change. Do we think Kim evolved?
Starting point is 00:30:32 Hell yeah. No, she didn't. 100%. No, she didn't. From 10 years ago? No, she didn't. How do we don't know? You know, because we don't know the situation.
Starting point is 00:30:39 That might have been Kanye. Might have been a problem in that relationship. She might have wanted to be a housewife. The problem was when you first went into that relationship with that lady, it's a lot of stuff going on with women, man. You got to be really careful when you just jump out there. And obviously he wasn't listening to Dr. Dre's album like he should have been. He wouldn't have knew that. Any of them. Snoop Dogg's album, you can't turn a hoe into a housewife. These are simple things, simple truths. I think there's a lot of hoes that have
Starting point is 00:31:03 been turned into housewives. I actually think there's a lot of holes that have been turned into housewives i actually think sometimes in a lot of ways uh hoes make the best housewives because because just like people who've been in the street they done been there done that and they don't want to do that no more so they evolve and now they'd uh you would never know there's somebody married to a woman right now and had no idea glasses and them crips was running trains on her and watched in the 90s right now no i don't know no but it's it's again the concept is just really simple and obviously you see it went down in flames it went down in flames it's not again it's not i don't want to sound like i'm being harsh to kim or or even it seemed like i'm, I don't know whose fault it was, but it could have been Kanye's fault that it went down.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Sure. I think that's what you were trying to say. I'm not blaming her. It's just a bad idea. Like you got to get somebody that's a little bit more plausible for the job. And I don't think that that was the correct plausible person for the job. Her life was shaped to be something completely different. But again, sometimes, like ever since I've been talking about this song,
Starting point is 00:32:05 it's been more or less about Kim Kardashian, my like or dislike for Kim Kardashian and that's just not true. I love Kim Kardashian. I mean, as much as you can love
Starting point is 00:32:14 somebody you don't know that you don't have to really have a lot of respect for. She was, you know, again, no,
Starting point is 00:32:20 because. Lassie's got a podcast called No Ceilings, y'all. If y'all enjoying this, y'all should listen to it. No, but. Lass has got a podcast called No Ceilings, y'all. If y'all enjoying this, y'all should listen to it. No, but this is the point because everybody will be thinking I'm crazy. She was sucking Ray J. Dick on tape. Jesus. That don't mean anything.
Starting point is 00:32:36 That matters. That means somebody had a camera out. No, she actually recorded, then they sold the video. That's a hustle. That's a hustle, G. Come on, man. Are you mad at this woman g come on man i'm not mad at her i i totally understand i have the utmost respect for prostitutes porn stars and anybody else that's hustling but let's actually call it what it is most men that get with their woman, they not getting a virgin, G. Come on, man. It's just the truth. They not getting
Starting point is 00:33:08 a virgin, whether it's on tape or not on tape. Him is far from a virgin, man. Like, do we gotta go that far? Virgin? Every woman has a past. Every man has a past. Can we just start with not sucking dick on tape? Can we just start with not sucking dick on tape? In this day and age, it's kinda hard
Starting point is 00:33:24 not to get your dick on tape. See what day and age, it's kind of hard not to keep sucking dick on tape. See what he think of women? Everybody pulling their phones out. This new generation got it rough, G. This is why I stay street. I see. Because you have to have some moral compass and code of behavior because look where we at. I see.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Like you like, oh, now the only pool of women is who's sucking dick on tape. Now, I know. Look, this is at this one so this is his bottom because i have to look at her face right because i don't want her to think like i'm like some kind of he-man woman hater but it's like it's too late if we start with sucking dick on tape i get what you say this woman has not sucked nobody dick on tape and we've seen the video what woman this lady oh so I don't want her I'm just saying I don't want her to think that I'm saying we got at least start with not sucking big on tape you okay can we not wife who's sucking big on
Starting point is 00:34:14 tension be a disqualified yes it's yes okay so what if what if the woman is given fellatio and doesn't know that she's being recorded. Secretly recorded. Listen, the exception is not the rule. She knew she was being recorded. She was performing. And then they sold the tape for money. Like Kanye's kids, his daughter going to have to see that. Yeah. His daughter going to see this interview like,
Starting point is 00:34:39 this man calling my mother out her name. And that's not what it is. Young lady and young man, that's not what it is i'm a young lady and and young man that's not what it is they do this thing and don't think for tomorrow back to the streets they teach you accountability everything you do you remember this shit is going to matter everybody else in regular life sucking dick on tape you will not think how that's gonna bother you because they don't fucking got no morals who the fuck would suck dick on tape and think like later on cry like i suck dick on tape and everybody saw it what about people who secretly get taped he just said the exception there's some people out there
Starting point is 00:35:15 that we've seen i don't want to bring no names up yeah but you can't sell it right if you sell it you'll be sued like this is way past sucking dick on tape like yes most women probably suck dick most women probably have dick most women probably have gay fellatio right fellatio there's buzzers by the way
Starting point is 00:35:29 right so most women have right but they also not doing it on tape correct and then if they did it on tape
Starting point is 00:35:35 they not selling it for money cause they making the best out of a bad situation Beyonce said turn lemons into lemonade
Starting point is 00:35:43 G what was the bad situation she got caught sucking dick on tape who got caught Kim and they taped it of a bad situation. Beyonce said, turn lemons into lemonade. Gee. What was the bad situation? She got caught sucking dick on tape. Who got caught? Kim and Trey Tate. They taped it. They made it on purpose.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Whatever it was, but then they ended up selling it. Right. Yeah. What's wrong with that? Nothing. So then why is it wrong
Starting point is 00:35:57 when I'm saying you sucking dick on tape? No, it's nothing wrong with saying that. I don't think they got caught. They sold it. That's how everybody sold it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:02 No, I thought it got leaked and then they did it. No, they sold it. They sold it. Anyway, let's move on. Let me ask you a question. So I see, I didn't hear they got caught. They sold it. That's how everybody saw it. Yes. No, I thought it got leaked and then they did it. No, they sold it. They sold it. Anyway, let's move on. Let me ask you a question. So I see, I didn't hear the album yet,
Starting point is 00:36:08 but I see Notorious B.I.G. on the album. Yeah, yeah. Is that a new verse, old verse? No, that's a hook. It's a hook. Oh, it's a hook.
Starting point is 00:36:13 I didn't hear it. It's called The Loke. It's dope. Okay. The Loke. It's a really dope song. It's really dope. At 110,
Starting point is 00:36:20 I feel like Big Daddy Kane rapping at that BPM. You can relate. A lot of Kane shit the 110 112 110 112 more money more problems feel me thinking I'm up there like Chubb Rock you know I closed with Chubb Rock that was the feel of the song so I felt like such a hip-hop vet doing that gotcha I wanted to ask you about something you said to the group chat the other day you said that uh uh Machiavelli album and Snoop's Doggy style dog father dog father i'm sorry snoop's dog father
Starting point is 00:36:46 are the same album every time i come here we be in some shit so let's go right to it it's not even front if tupac doesn't pass away macaveli would be considered what dog father is because you would have been coming off such high production, high value production, high value everything. What happens to somebody really shaped the market? What happened to Tupac shaped the marketing and how we received the next album? You know what I mean? Snoop didn't have the benefit of that. He just, Dre skipped on.
Starting point is 00:37:16 He just, DJ Poole, me and DJ Poole even talked about it. He was talking about how much he had to, how hard it was working on that album, how much they didn't get to do certain things. And then Snoop got the utmost criticism for it. But imagine if Machiavelli follows All Eyes On Me and Tupac is Alive and it doesn't have How Do You Want It? It doesn't have the success of California Love, two number one songs.
Starting point is 00:37:38 It don't have the Johnny J production because him and Pac had fell out at that point. It doesn't have Dr. Dre because now Dr. Dre because now Dr. Dre is gone and you dissing him and now we can listen to your disses and judge whether or not we think it's okay so I think they're almost like the same style of album as far as the way they will follow such huge huge releases so you're not talking about sonically because sonically I just think Machiavelli's just a way better album. And I think that
Starting point is 00:38:05 album goes whether Pac passes or not. It's my... No. I mean, Bomb First, Hail Mary, Live and Die in LA. It's my favorite Pac album, but again, following the album, I don't think we hear it the same way. I think we... When somebody passes away, we take their music
Starting point is 00:38:21 differently. We start to accept certain things. It has an ominous feel things start to happen and i think in poc's situation him passing away made us feel a lot different about what we heard but wasn't that the point of that album though wasn't he coming out through the alias macaveli yeah which is made even crazier so you said snoop i'm confused you saying the dog for the album yeah it's on the same as thelli album? Yes. I said the only difference is Tupac passed away, so it's set a marketing landscape for how we receive it. I disagree with that.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Nah. Because that Machiavelli album, and you said it's a fantastic album. It's my favorite Tupac album. That's what I'm saying. But it's part of him passing away because of the ominous feel of the record. So what records did you like on the Snoop Dogg album? Dogg Father. The Dogg Father, man, my bad.
Starting point is 00:39:02 So, I mean, I like Pooh's production. You know what I mean? You like the DJ Pooh? Yeah. Pooh did a lot of it. So, I mean, I like Poo's production. You know what I mean? DJ Poo? Yeah, Poo did a lot of it. So I pretty much like about three or four or five songs. But again, I like every song on Machiavelli because it just, maybe if he's alive and he dissing Nas now, it's different.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Him dissing Nas in depth, it's like, you know, he was born. He didn't diss him when he was alive. No, I mean, on the records. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm saying like, if he's dissing Jay-Z, if he's dissing Nas, if he's dissing Dr. Dre and he's breathing air, maybe, again, right now we're just talking about somebody sucking dick
Starting point is 00:39:32 and everybody looking at me crazy. You think they shouldn't have put the album out is what you're saying? No, I think they did the right thing by putting the album out. I'm just saying I think they're the same type of follow-up to those albums. Doggy Style and Dogfather, I think Dogfather got a lot of unwarranted to those albums. Doggy Style and Dogfather. I think Dogfather got a lot of unwarranted criticism because of where everything was at at that time. I think DJ Pooh being there, it didn't get enough credit because it wasn't Dr. Dre, Dr. Dre leaving.
Starting point is 00:39:56 And I think Pac passed away, so it created a different space for us to hear the music. Yeah, I think To Live and Die in L.A., and you correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm on the outside looking in. To me, that is the... When I think L.A., I think To Live and die in l.a and you correct me if i'm wrong this is because i'm on the outside looking into me that is the when i think l.a i think to live and die in l.a to me that is the quintessential west coast record in los angeles like if i landed at the airport i would want to hear the living dying l.a plane you know what that's over california love because i can
Starting point is 00:40:19 understand that from somebody that's from out of town in town probably not but out of town i mean to us like we'll probably think about shook ones or cream like that but I'm sure in New York it's a completely different vibe but most people would think Empire State Jay-z and Alicia Keys most people think that when they come to New York they think so yeah but but but us hip-hop heads yeah I would think of PSA Jay-z I would think of shook ones I would think you know records like that that's a great point because I don't think nobody in New York would think of PSA, Jay-Z. I would think of Shook Ones. I would think of records like that. That's a great point. Because I don't think nobody in New York would think of Empire State of Mind
Starting point is 00:40:48 as the record that you would think that's something. But then it was crazy because we was chilling because there was a horse and carriage playing and it was like, oh, this feels like New York. But I guess I never thought about it. That's a Taurus-y type of song. But here, we're going to play PSA, allow me to reintroduce myself. Shook Ones.
Starting point is 00:41:05 It's hard to say that's a touristy song when a poster child for New York made it to be a New York anthem like Empire State of Mind is doing exactly what Jay-Z wrote it to do yeah for sporting events and touristy stuff but I think he made it for everybody to see New York from a wide
Starting point is 00:41:22 perspective versus giving off raw New York vibes where it's like, like I said, cream. When I think of New York, I think of cream or I think of, I guess because I've been here too. So you see certain parts of certain boroughs, you're like, oh, it's rougher. And Empire State of Mind is so clean. But it does fit. For us, I guess, inside, probably something like I Love It. I Love It. What's I Love It. I Love It.
Starting point is 00:41:46 What's I Love It? East Siders. Okay, okay, okay. That's a super inside of L.A. song. I guess that would be like our shook ones. You know what I mean? It's I love it. The way the homies come up, the Snoop Dogg group, the East Siders,
Starting point is 00:41:57 him and Trady and Goldie. Inside L.A., Sugar Free. I'd rather give you my bitch. That's a super Los Angeles. You come into Los Angeles, I don't think nobody outside of Los Angeles really know about it, but inside of Los Angeles,
Starting point is 00:42:12 that shit sets everything off. So it's pretty fucking dope. When we talk about LA, is there anything that can be done to make the streets safer? Because when you think about losing the great Nipsey Hussle, losing PNB Rock, is there a way to make the streets safer? Because when you think about, you know, losing the great Nipsey Hussle, losing PNB Rock,
Starting point is 00:42:26 is there a way to make the streets safer, I guess, in particular for rappers? Pop Smoke. I mean, just people poor. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:35 So many of these situations is just crazy. Like, when we even, we talked about what happened with, with PNB Rock. Like,
Starting point is 00:42:43 you've been to LA enough, you've been to LA enough. You've been to LA enough. I don't think either one of y'all been over there. I don't think either. Y'all been to Roscoe's, I'm sure, multiple times. Neither one of y'all
Starting point is 00:42:51 been to that Roscoe's. I was over there recently, but I wasn't stopping over there, though. Right? So that's like the locals, Roscoe's. And it's like a place that look really poor. That's on the east side.
Starting point is 00:42:59 This is my side of town. This is the Roscoe's I go to. I've been going there my whole life. And I don't think that's the kind of place where you jump out so i don't i don't know if there's something that can be done except just making smarter decisions like i wouldn't go to no ghetto with what looks like two or three hundred thousand dollars worth of jewelry on i just think that's a bad idea i agree you mean why would you go around poor people you're supposed to look like an opportunity
Starting point is 00:43:24 you know you're supposed to look like you can give an supposed to look like an opportunity. You're supposed to look like you can give an opportunity, not look like an opportunity. And I think a lot of times rappers, it's a weird space. I think hip-hop takes a lot of blame for a lot of shit, but I think the one thing that they have really elevated is flossing on poor people. Hip-hop used to be the voice of poor people. Now it's about people telling other people how poor they is you know I mean and I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:43:47 take your woman because you too poor to have a you know broken in me and broke niggas don't get along it's just like goddamn all your partners is broke your friends don't get along so again I think hip-hop is and I think rappers are kind of flossing on poor people and poor, they got to remember poor people following them. People who don't got
Starting point is 00:44:08 a bunch of stuff. If you look on my page, you ain't seeing shit I got. You know what I'm saying? Because I know people that support me, they don't have what I have.
Starting point is 00:44:16 So why would I go to any ghetto with just all this jewelry on? I just think that's a bad idea. So I don't, what needs to be done is rappers got to kind of
Starting point is 00:44:24 realize maybe the goal is not to floss on poor people. I mean, I just think that's a bad idea. So what needs to be done is rappers got to kind of realize maybe the goal is not to floss on poor people. I mean, I think rappers got to make their own adjustments. I don't think there's nothing that can be done amongst. I think we blame poor people for enough shit. So what about somebody like Nip who was providing opportunity? Yeah, that situation is really nuanced. We talked about that.
Starting point is 00:44:46 It's a really weird situation between two people from, you know, the same community and so many words, and it's like it's a situation that went bad. You know what I mean? And it's so much stuff that we don't know about. Even me being from right down the street and this being my friend, so many things that I still am learning every day about the dynamics of it. Death just come with life
Starting point is 00:45:09 and it ain't no getting away. And the solution ain't always getting away from poor people. That's not going to cause you to die. It's just, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:16 we can die. That's the point of it. We can die. You know what I mean? And I think it's more important that we stay around poor people and providing opportunities
Starting point is 00:45:23 and helping people get, you know, to better their life. that's the only solution more opportunities for livable wages for poor people i was thinking about that too hip-hop is the america's last hope explain what you mean just culturally what we represent that like i'm saying accountability making sure a square is still a square like the fact that right now i'm telling y'all you know this lady is probably not the kind of lady you should marry because in the everyday world, it's just losing morals every day. It's just more things are becoming
Starting point is 00:45:52 acceptable for no reason. Just for some false sense of inclusion. And that's just not real. But hip-hop, and I love hip-hop, so don't take this the wrong way, but hip-hop can normalize a lot of bullshit too. We have normalized a lot of bullshit. But have we really normalized a lot of bullshit that wasn't normal in our communities already?
Starting point is 00:46:09 Yes. Like what? I think that we've celebrated a lot of, like we celebrated the drug culture. Like we've glorified the gang culture. I think a lot of times people did those things out of survival, especially hustling. So it turned into a thing people did out of survival
Starting point is 00:46:24 that people never spoke about to- cool making records about it like everybody want to be a dope boy a trap boy now i mean is that really the ghetto i mean what year did scarface come out i don't know what the 70 something what year did it seem like it got worse though no it just became something appearing to us like we we take the, we take the blame as far as the ghetto, street urban culture, hip-hop takes the blame for everything. America's been celebrating this shit. Absolutely, but if we know better, shouldn't we do better? Like, if we know these things only lead a lot of our people to jail,
Starting point is 00:46:56 lead a lot of our people dead, shouldn't we come up with something else? Well, I think we, as far as hip-hop, we also don't do the best job for the people at the lowest parts of our community neither. While I do agree that there is some responsibility, it's more about the elite. It's more about the top. It ain't really about the bottom. The bottom is going to be the bottom because, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:15 motherfuckers don't know. They ignorant. They don't have the information. So it's about us at the top, right? It's about the Jay-Z's. It's about Envy. It's about the people at the top doing right by poor people. And you can't ask poor people to make better decisions. You poor. Everything you do is by necessity. So I agree with that. But to what we were talking about earlier,
Starting point is 00:47:35 man, when you go down to that bottom, that's when you get real morals. That's when you get real principles. People that may not have a dollar, but they still got an integrity about themselves. Sometimes people at the top with all that money don't have that integrity well they got the same integrity because the same person gonna sell drugs right the wealthiest person in big pharma and the poorest person gonna sell dope same mentality so i think it's about the job we do by other poor people within hip-hop that's the only place we fell in that in my mind we don't do a really ghetto people that succeed don't do the best job by people that's not succeeding. It's always kind of like,
Starting point is 00:48:06 Oh, you figure it out. Like, that's why we started the new West at that time. It was like, it was way too much. Y'all figure it out versus, Hey man,
Starting point is 00:48:13 this is how you do it. You in the door. Now let me show you how to do it. It was you. It was Kendrick. It was nip. Who else? Bishop Lamont, Jay Rock,
Starting point is 00:48:20 Mike Stroh. So that, that hip hop has to do a much better job of that. Like the, the, um, the people that are successful got to come grab people that ain't successful. That's the whole premise. That's why it works so well. So I think, no, I don't blame us for, I don't think we normalize drug dealing. I think drug dealing is normal in our ghettos.
Starting point is 00:48:40 We definitely put a soundtrack to it. Yeah, because we supposed to. We made it cool. Well, it's not, it was cool because it was cool because it was success in the community. I don't know if it's ever been cool. That's why only a select few did it. No, I think they but a lot of people talked about and act like they did. Like even we talked about this morning on yesterday's show we talked about Michael Irvin and his son and Michael Irvin was like my son is not that street dude. Yeah. But he was his son was acting rapping like a street dude because he sees it working. He probably sees it working. But he was like
Starting point is 00:49:05 Mike Irvin was like my son grew up in a gated community there's no street in him well we had this conversation a million times before I think that's the problem when everybody's trying
Starting point is 00:49:12 to jump on the way that poor people have to kind of create a way out for themselves if you're a middle class person and you on the next track to be Mike Irvin's son
Starting point is 00:49:20 and maybe go coach a football team why the fuck is you doing rap you know what I mean you just want but that's another thing because Glasses Malone told me i'm not a man if i'm not in the street no glasses malone told you the streets made him a man michael irvin made cuz a man you know what i
Starting point is 00:49:36 mean like your middle your wealthy existence was the platform that proves you don't have to be street or are necessarily religious to instill morals in a person? Well, I don't know, because Mike Wordman's saying he don't got morals right now. He's like, man, I don't know what's wrong with this. It's not a lack of morals. That's just like you pretending to be something you're not. That's a lack of morals.
Starting point is 00:49:54 He ain't committing the crime. He's just rapping about it. That should be a crime. What? Just lying and shit like you just street and thugging. You know how many rappers would be locked up? Man. Let's talk to her. Let's talk to talk to her it's a motherfucking interview but it's the truth how many rappers that lied i mean
Starting point is 00:50:13 a lot of rappers say they done killed this person shot this person but a lot of them it's not true i hope not i hope not true i hope everybody i was just telling them the other day we was talking about drake we was talking about your boy, right? So he was like, the whole shit was Joe. And my whole point with Joe was like, how do you talk about Drake's music? This is what Drake do. If you're not a fan of Drake music, you're not a fan of the current wave of whatever's going on.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Oh, I saw you do that. Whose podcast was you on? I saw that. Back on Fig. Back on Fig, yeah. So I'm telling them, and my nigga was like, yeah, well, you know, what about him talking street? I'm like, well, Drake talked like he was making threats in the chat.
Starting point is 00:50:52 And I'm like, I don't want to find out. I don't want to be the nigga to find out that he'll spend some money. So my whole attitude is like, do I thank the man out there thugging? Probably not. But you know what? It might influence you to do some dumb ass shit. So if he trick his shit off playing around with the low level, then let's see.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Oh, he got people around him that could be about their life who tired of people playing with their man. They ain't tired of it. They want y'all to get some money. I don't know. I thought what you said was true, though. It was just like, yo you to not like this Drake album
Starting point is 00:51:26 is kind of hypocritical because this is the same music that he's that's what I say it's the same music he been making whatever the current he's the best at
Starting point is 00:51:32 like Madonna that's another everybody got mad when I kept comparing him to Madonna and it's like Madonna used to do the same thing with music
Starting point is 00:51:38 she would take whatever the current wave of music and make a Madonna song Drake does the same thing right now so if you you can't really dislike Drake's music. It's like you can't really dislike McDonald's.
Starting point is 00:51:50 You can talk about it's unhealthy. You can make a lot of ridiculous arguments. You can be like, I'm not in the mood for it. I want better. But come on, man. Drake shit is like a Happy Meal. It's kind of hard to kind of really hate on. You just kind of be like, I ain't eating that shit today.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Well, you could say, yeah. Like, I think some people say, I want more rapping. Some people could say, I want more of this type of song. But like you said, you can't hate this. It's true. But who would even want more from Drake? Like, it's like wanting more from McDonald's. I want McDonald's to sell steaks.
Starting point is 00:52:17 That's just not what Drake does. Drake has done the same consistent thing this whole time. Whatever the current wave or whatever's going on, he makes that and he's going to make it the best it can be made out of mass consumption. That's my point.
Starting point is 00:52:30 So I think it makes sense. It makes sense. Cancel these nuts is out right now from my guy Glasses Malone, man. That's right. Check this out. Make sure you subscribe
Starting point is 00:52:39 to the No Ceilings podcast on the Black Spec iHeartRadio podcast network. That's another thing. Like, my motherfucking podcast is really good. I'm pretty good at this point. It's this. It's all this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:51 And don't go, you can stream my shit, but go to thecripstore.com and buy it. Okay. The Crip Store. The Crip Store.com. What if I'm a blood? I got blood on me. They can shop with the Crip. Just making sure. I don't know how that works. When I used to sell drugs, I would sell them drugs. They would make money off my drugs, so they could buy my music at Cripstore.com.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Cripstore.com, man. Go get a Cancel These Nuts from my guy Glasses Malone. Shout out to my boy Brasco, man. The Cripstore.com gave me my idea, too, for the Cripstore. Who? My boy Brasco. Who's Brasco? One of my partners from out of Memphis.
Starting point is 00:53:23 He was like, man, you got to be more of a Crip. I was like, man, you right. I got to be Crip. I was like, man, you're right. I got to be a Crip more out loud. What? Gee. Yeah. You what? No, for real, because it matters.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Mac-10 and everybody would hit me like, hey, you're Cripping too hard. I'm like, nah, just enough. All right, well, it's Glasses Malone. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up. Early in the morning's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up. Early in the morning.
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