The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Icewear Vezzo Talks Upcoming Tour, Eminem, 6Mile, Politics Kamala, Gretchen + More

Episode Date: August 22, 2024

The Breakfast Club sits down with Icewear Vezzo to discuss his upcoming tour, his relationship with Eminem, He also dives into the world of politics, sharing his thoughts on Kamala Harris, Michigan Go...vernor Gretchen Whitmer. Listen for more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:50 And we got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. We got Ice Way Vezo. Welcome. What it do? How you feeling, brother? Man, I'm feeling well, brother. I'm feeling blessed.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Taking one day at a time. Goddamn, turn the headlights off and down the chain. Turn the headlights down. Lord have mercy. You rich over there, man. He's doing that. He's trolling right now because he know he can buy this shit 50 times a month. That's nice, though.
Starting point is 00:03:12 That's a beautiful chain. Six Mile is what's on it. You know, it's funny. Somebody called in earlier today. Remember the young girl? Said she had a lemonade stand that she was opening up on Six Mile. Oh, she did? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Yeah, she did. I mean, I heard the lemonade stand, but I didn't catch it was a Detroit. Yeah, it was a Six Mile in Detroit. She was opening up a lemonade. A little she did? Oh yeah, I didn't catch that. I mean I heard the lemonade thing, but I didn't catch it with Detroit. Yeah, it was on Six Mile in Detroit, she was opening up a lemonade. Little girl, I think she was like 13, she just gonna pull up on the corner in front of the McDonald's or in front of one of them? It was two spots, one was McDonald's
Starting point is 00:03:34 and then it was a second one. Yeah, she had two lemonade stands in Detroit. So she on the west side then? Oh she on the west side. Yeah, she on the west side. You know, we on Eastside. We hear people from Detroit talk about the miles, but what does that mean to you?
Starting point is 00:03:43 Like when you say Six Mile and you go get it on the chain like that, what does that mean? So six mile is my hood. Like high in New York, y'all got like 145th and all that type, right? So ours just run by the mile. It's literally a mile long with a radiance for the hood, but it run east to west. You know what I'm saying? So it's my hood.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Like M, he claim eight mile. But M from the six too. He from six miles? He grew up on Bradford. He grew up on Bradford and Dresden. Ed, he grew up on Dresden. Did he move over there to eight miles? Or did his grandmama live on eight miles?
Starting point is 00:04:14 I believe he moved over there eventually. I think Holmes went to Osborne. That's the high school I went to. That's on seven miles. I seem like Detroit artists are not beefing as much. And I love to see it in the city. I'm seeing more and more artists out together. So what does that mean for the city?
Starting point is 00:04:28 So this is how it really is, right? We be having our little disputes and shit. You know, certain people don't rock with certain people. That's just how it go. But we take pride in not bringing it to the internet and not letting the rest of the world know that because it ain't the rest of the world business. We try to figure out how can we diffuse the situation or how can we control the situation
Starting point is 00:04:49 and hash it out if it's possible to hash out if it ain't possible to hash out then it's like y'all just go your own way as much as possible when we out of town niggas just don't speak to each other y'all in the same club y'all ain't gotta holler but don't we ain't gonna embarrass our you know what i mean we're gonna to move like we respect ourselves. You know, we on a mission. This the first time we ever was able to get in any type of position. Paul was like, you know what I'm saying? Like the very first time.
Starting point is 00:05:15 So we can't mess this opportunity up for nothing in the world. And I feel like don't nobody want to be that guy. You know what I mean? Nobody want to be that guy that start fucking up what we got going on. So it's not the rest of the world business what we got going on. But it's definitely like that.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Ain't no city perfect. You know what I mean? How is that code of conduct established? Like does a memo go out in the street? No, it's just like an unwritten rule.
Starting point is 00:05:39 You know what I'm saying? And like I say, again, it's just more so about everybody not wanting to be that guy that messed that up. everybody see how we moving everybody know who rock with who don't rock with each other but they know homes them out of town they they keeping it moving you know I'm saying so yeah that's just what it is like an unreal rule but we take pride in that and we do know that that's what we do so we're gonna continue to do that as much as we can yeah we can't mess
Starting point is 00:06:05 the position up your love for the city and where you're from is that what made you be open to like i know you had the words for eminem and y'all met up at the 50 cent tour and that kind of changed is that what made you be open to stuff like that to kind of show that publicly as well yeah you know i ain't never wanted to like speak against him publicly ever but I just couldn't contain my thoughts and how I felt. I feel like I do so much for my city. I do so much for the community that I grew up in, that he grew up in, that a lot of people grew up in, and that support don't be there from, you know, certain artists, especially people like M. Holmes is a mega star.
Starting point is 00:06:43 You know what I'm saying? Biggest rapper ever, if you really want to be talking about him. Yeah, like, in real life. You know what I mean? And I know what them kids get out of seeing me and Peezy, seeing me and Doug and Sada and Skillo. I know what they get out of seeing us, being able to talk to them, being able to, you know, whatever the case may be.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I know the type of motivation that come from that. And I just felt like, damn, I feel like Holmes, I wish Holmes would have did that with us, you know. And I don't want to say he ain't, that's why I ain't never been a guy that be like, yeah, M ain't did nothing or try to put nobody on from the city for one. He don't owe nobody nothing, absolutely nothing at all.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And respectfully, he did do what he need to do. He did that for his era. You know, when M was our age, he brought, if it wasn't for M, then it wouldn't be no proof. It wouldn't be a D12. It wouldn't be a Royce 5'9". So the proof is there. He did what he had to do. But we just admired everything about
Starting point is 00:07:36 him so much. And he inspired us so much. I think we would appreciate it more if we could have met him early on and got some knowledge, got some game, got some type of insight. You know, I don't understand how I met and locked in with 50 Cent, who was from Queens, before I met Eminem. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:07:56 And how did y'all meet on that tour? Did he approach you, you approach him, or how was that conversation? We literally bumped into each other. Yeah, we bumped into each other. But it's all good. Were you on Em or were you on 5th? Me and M. You and M, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I rap with 50 the long way. Homes, he a real one, bro. What'd he say to you when he bumped in? Like, whatever. I know it had to be awkward at first because it wasn't like a meeting. It was like, oh, we in the hall. This might be a problem.
Starting point is 00:08:19 It was mad awkward, you know what I'm saying? But we just, you know, hey, bro, it's all love. I respect you, bro. Ain't nothing like that. I feel how I feel. You know what I'm saying? But we just, you know, hey, bro, it's all love. I respect you, bro. Ain't nothing like that. I feel how I feel. You know what I mean? He's like, man, I see what you're doing. We kept it moving, bro. M don't owe nobody nothing, man.
Starting point is 00:08:34 We gonna leave M alone, man. What did you think about Skillababy comments when he said most, I guess he said most people, I don't know if he said most people from Detroit, most people from his generation in Detroit wouldn't consider Eminem the GOAT. I didn't, when I heard it, I don't know if he said most people from Detroit, most people from his generation in Detroit wouldn't consider Eminem the GOAT. When I heard it, I understood what he was saying. He younger.
Starting point is 00:08:49 That's true. That's just how it is. Why should that be a problem? Consider them. Them youngins, they ain't listening to that. You know what I mean? They listen to most street artists in Detroit. That just ain't the wave.
Starting point is 00:09:02 It wasn't the wave. When I was like super young and all that, we was listening to the Street Lords and the Cheddar Boys and Mae West and the Lodge Boys. Like,
Starting point is 00:09:11 we always liked street artists and street music. Like, we wasn't, we wasn't rocking to that. That just ain't it. Em got a fan base, you know.
Starting point is 00:09:18 He got his fan base. He got people that like that kind of music and the music that he make, it's a way bigger audience to it. So, if I was Em, I wouldn't even care if a certain audience don't listen to me anyway because I got a way bigger audience. But it was true what Skillaz said.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I don't know. He got some flack for that too, didn't he? Oh, yeah, he did. I don't understand that. It was just true shit. That's what it is. Well, if you're not from Detroit, you probably don't understand. I can totally understand being a young dude from the street in Detroit,
Starting point is 00:09:46 and I'm not riding around in Slim Shady. Put it like this, right? That's not a diss. Is the youngest in New York listening to Jay-Z? Probably not. Probably not. No. Same scenario.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Certain songs, I'm sure. I doubt that, to be honest with you. Yeah, I mean, they had an argument all the time with the future Jay-Z conversation when Future was like, I'm in the streets he's not like i'm like people gonna play future generation i get it it's a it's a generational gap you know yeah it's all good yeah the youngest young as any trait don't really understand jay-z like they don't get it they don't care about that music either hey well congratulations on your record just recently went gold yeah i appreciate that, bro.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Up the scope. First gold on an independent side. You heard? How does that feel? You so independent. It looked like a chain. That's what that money looked like. We had that before the chain.
Starting point is 00:10:34 How did that feel to go gold independent? It's a lot different because you're spending your own money. No, for sure. You know, obviously going gold, the platinum, it's a trophy. You know what I mean? That's what we want. That's what we grind for. But to get it independent, it definitely just restart restarted that fire up you know what i'm saying
Starting point is 00:10:49 re-motivated me and uh just keep me energized brother like i i really appreciate that you know that's something i i always wanted i wanted to go i wanted to get that for us going go to platinum it's like winning a chip in the nba you know what i'm saying or winning a super bowl so yeah it made me definitely want to stay independent, though. Does the money really look that much different? Money good. Money cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I'll be saving my money up, though. I don't fuck my money up. Oh, yeah. You be investing back into Detroit? Yeah, I own a juice bar in Detroit, Michigan. I got it with my wife. It was something that she believed in. It was her vision, something she had a real passion for.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Dope. I didn't understand it at first, but I had to do it because she sat with me while I chased my dreams. She gave me money and let me fuck all her cars up and all that. So I had to rock with her, and she made me a believer because that business is a wonderful business. We in Troy, Michigan. In Troy? How far is that from Detroit?
Starting point is 00:11:45 It ain't that far, but I say that with pride because Troy is like being in Manhattan. What's the best part of Manhattan? Times Square? No, probably all them stores are. Where's Fifth Avenue? Fifth Avenue. That's equivalent to a dude from the streets, a black dude having a store on Fifth Ave. Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:07 They usually don't let you in there, they usually ban us out, rules and regulations, but you guys are successful there, which is dope. And we got in there and they let us, so I take pride in that. You been taking care of yourself? Can you say the juice parts, so physically, mentally, you been taking care of yourself?
Starting point is 00:12:19 Yeah, for the most part, I try to. My kids keep me grounded. We are humans, we go You know, we are humans. We go through shit. We deal with mental shit and all that. But, you know, I stay ten toes down. I keep my chin up. Everybody deal with shit, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:12:33 But, yeah, I pray a lot, so I think that helped me. You know what I mean? Now, you've been very vocal about politics, especially since the DNC is in town. Do you wish you did that? Do you wish you just said, you know, I should have just shut my ass up? No, I don't just shut my ass up?
Starting point is 00:12:46 You don't care. No, I don't. I don't care. The problem is, right? Why did everybody think he was endorsing Trump? Because he took the picture. Because I took a picture. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:54 And that's where I was getting at, right? We got to do better with making assumptions. You know, we got to get better just overall, right? I underestimated
Starting point is 00:13:04 the amount of people who can think further, basically, right? I posted a picture. I did not say, hey, I'm supporting Donald Trump for president. I believe in his brother. I think he can save me. I didn't say none of that shit. I posted a picture and said yeah i feel the first way to change is being able to have a conversation and everybody took that as as i supported trump
Starting point is 00:13:30 somebody dm me going crazy cussing me out i said all right i'll give you a hundred thousand dollars if you can tell me what this covers what was said in this conversation how i'm gonna tell you was in a conversation just a picture exactly sister so why would you go that far like this this is a picture don't draw conclusions have a conversation with me ask me hey vezzo i don't i don't like that you took a picture with trump but what went on why did you take this picture what was your intentions what was the end game for this you know so that's the first thing i did when i saw the picture i i hit up chanel yeah you know i don't care whether you take the picture or not i just want to know what if you are in support and what or not. I just want to know what, if you are supporting what you weren't, I just wanted to know what was the allure.
Starting point is 00:14:09 That's all. Yeah, I believe in letting everybody talk. You know, if I go to a supermarket and they having, like, a farmer's market situation, right, and everybody got a pitch for their product, I want to hear every single pitch. I agree. You cannot just hear one side of anything and run with that right and everybody got a pitch for their product i want to hear every single pitch i agree you cannot just hear one side of anything and run with that and make a and make a decision based off of one side ideas you know i don't believe in everything i don't like the way the democrats
Starting point is 00:14:37 are i don't i just don't and not them as a as a and not them individually but more so as a whole. As a party. Yeah, as a party. I don't like it. I don't like the pandering. I feel like it's extremely disrespectful. I think they intellectually manipulate us with strong words like racism, stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:15:01 I just want to be told the truth. I want to deal with people to whereas what you see is what you get you know I want to know who you are on and off camera so what was the conversation like what did y'all speak about if you don't mind actually didn't have a chance to speak about much at all it didn't it didn't go the way I thought it would go you know but we did have a small conversation I asked him I just straight up asked do you have a problem with with black people he said no why would i why would i have a problem with black people i said well it come off that way you know and he said something that i that i also believe in as well well you shouldn't listen to people just continue to do your own research you know and we can have
Starting point is 00:15:39 a conversation later conversation didn't come do i think trump is racist i don't know i don't know i don't know how would i how would i know how do any of us know if the man is right we can't i don't want to go off of what somebody is telling me you know because every time i was told anyone said something or done something and i went and did the research myself it was taken out of context or it wasn't that you know i mean so yeah but didn't uh didn't he reach out to y'all yeah and rfk prior to that rfk reached out to y'all yeah absolutely and you met with rfk yeah and y'all took a picture together and i wanted to meet with biden as well but they wouldn't take the meeting from what i heard yeah they wouldn't take the meeting yeah
Starting point is 00:16:18 so i can't control who want to come to the hood you know i respect that part yeah it don't matter who it is they went to the naac I believe, when they came to Detroit. If you care about us, care enough to come and talk to us. You cannot have a problem with something I do, but you don't have nothing to replace those actions or that decision. You know, if I'm buying, it's like, all right, I don't like that. We don't like that he going to the hood and talking to these guys. Let me go to the hood and talk to these guys.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Come show up. Come say something different. Tell us who you are. You pander to us in every other way, so come speak to us intellectually and have a real conversation with us. Go ahead. No, no, no, go ahead. Did you at all feel slighted when the conversation,
Starting point is 00:17:00 you said it didn't go the way you thought it would. What does that mean? Did you feel slighted by that? No, I didn't feel slighted. I just didn't care. It didn't matter to me. When I say it didn't go the way I thought it would, it wasn't a communication thing. It was just fast.
Starting point is 00:17:13 It just went real fast. It was a fast movement. That's all that was, basically. I just appreciate that Holmes came to the trenches and that he talked to us. I didn't get nothing out of it, but he talked to us. And Michigan is a big battleground state. I don't think no more.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I think right now it seems like Michigan leaning more towards the left. You know? I don't know. Kind of Camilla in there. Prior to Camilla, right? Kamala. Kamala. Kamala.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Yeah, Vice President Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris. Oh, it's Kamala. Kamala. Kamala. They say all types of names. I heard Kamala. I heard Kamala. Kamala. Kamala. Yeah, Vice President Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris. Oh, it's Kamala. Kamala. They see all types of names. I heard Kamala. I heard Kamala. Kamala. Kamala. Kamala. Vice President Kamala Harris, yep. Soon as Vice President Kamala
Starting point is 00:17:56 joined the race, I feel that Michigan started leaning more towards the left. Michigan always been a battleground state. Prior to her running, it was a done deal. So Trump was gonna win that joint. You know what I mean? But now she got it and it's the opposite.
Starting point is 00:18:13 You rock with Gretchen, Big Gretch? I rock with Big Gretch. I rock with all of them. I like Governor Whitmer too. I read her book and I like her. We had her up here and we had a conversation with her. I think she's dope. But I've never seen a governor
Starting point is 00:18:24 have that kind of love from a state. What is it about Gretchen Whitmer that makes people love her so much? Because she don't push an agenda. She push right or wrong. She not pushing a party. She push policy. You know what I mean? She don't pander to us.
Starting point is 00:18:38 She don't do any of that. Gretchen come off more so like an independent. You know what I mean? And it ain't about nothing else for her except, you know, moving us forward. Because if it was about anything else, then she would have happily accepted the Democrat nomination to run for president. I honestly respect all the Democrats in Michigan and Detroit, period. The Detroit Democrats, they move like real people.
Starting point is 00:19:06 You know, they put our interests first when I say our interests I mean the state of Michigan and the city of Detroit overall you know they put everything we want and what we want to do first they listen to everybody they talk to everybody and the Democrats in Michigan they know how to take criticism
Starting point is 00:19:22 they don't take criticism as some type of insult. You know what I mean? So, yeah, I respect them. I got real respect for Gretchen. Have you spoken to her? I don't believe I ever met Gretchen. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah, I don't think I ever met her. So since all of the fallout from the photo and all that stuff, you mentioned that things kind of changed in Michigan. Biden stepped down, Kamala stepped up. How do you feel now about the Democrats? Has that changed for you, or are you still trying to? I still feel the same about Democrats, but again, like it's more so individual, you know, individuals.
Starting point is 00:19:54 You know, obviously Kamala, she a black woman, right? She black, right? Yeah, she black. She a black woman. I'm one of those guys where it's like, you know, I got to ride with you right or wrong. You She black, right? Yeah, she black. She a black woman. I'm one of those guys where it's like, you know, I got to ride with you right or wrong. You know what I mean? I don't believe I heard
Starting point is 00:20:11 anything from her as far as any policies and all that. But, you know, when Biden was running, I was willing to accept whatever flaws Trump had to not have Biden as our president. And I feel the same about Kamala.
Starting point is 00:20:29 She's willing to rock with her right or wrong. Whatever she is or whatever she ain't, I'm going to find out after she elects. So you all going to vote? I got to vote. Got you, got you. Absolutely got to vote, yeah. You know who you voting for yet? I know, I don't want to say this the wrong way, right,
Starting point is 00:20:54 because I speak up against this, you know what I mean? Just being, just voting blindly and being a fool and, you know, thinking, I like thinking intellectually. I don't like thinking emotionally. And I feel like we as black people, we think emotionally. We try to find a candidate in every area, someone that we got an emotional connection with. And I feel like a president's position is bigger than having an emotional connection.
Starting point is 00:21:24 You're not supposed to fall in love with him. We don't need to fall in love with him. The president of the United States, the president of America is the boss. You don't have to love your boss. I had a few jobs in my life. I don't think I ever liked any of my bosses, but it wasn't about that. I didn't need to like them. I'm big on policies.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I'm big on telling the truth and keep it in the honey, you know. But again, I'm one of them guys that I ride right or wrong. And I want our vote to be respected. And I think the only way our vote will be respected is if we all figure out how to vote the same way. You know, because if we show some type of pattern in the way we vote, then I don't think we have to worry about the pandering as much. Meaning, you know, if we all over the place with who we vote for, then our vote's still not going to be respected. But if they can see us all vote for one person, then it's like, all right, they coming. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you.
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Starting point is 00:27:25 happens so if you love hearing real inspiring stories from the people you know follow and admire join me every week for post run high it's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all it's light-hearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Together, somehow, someway. Right. Now, you said you're big on policy. What policies are near and dear to your heart? The biggest thing that you want to see out of any candidate, like what's near and dear, like this is what I'm more focused on. I would say our border, I don't think it's near and dear to my heart, but I think the border is important.
Starting point is 00:28:11 I would like to see our border back in control. How is that messed up Michigan? It hasn't messed up Michigan. Okay. But it affects other people. I care about everybody. Why, why, why? From what I know, it hasn't personally affected Michigan
Starting point is 00:28:26 at all. To be honest with you, nothing that any of the candidates do, I don't think it would affect me, you, you, Envy. I don't think it would affect none of us. But we can't only just think for ourselves. We got to try to think for everybody. I think
Starting point is 00:28:40 if we voting for which we are, we voting for Kamala, right? I don't think we should pander to each other. I think if we if we vote for which we are, we vote for Kamala. Right. I don't think we should pander to each other. I think we should keep it 100 and say, listen, I don't know all the facts. She I don't know what she going to do. I don't know what she has done, but we just going to do it. You know, just say that. But don't. All right. If you look at this, right, this is this. And she actually did and do this. It was this way. Like, don't lie to me.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Don't try to convince me. Don't pander to me. Don't take advantage of me mentally. Just tell the truth. I don't know, but I'm voting for her because she black. If y'all want me to vote for her because she black, just say it. I'm not voting for her because she black. I'm voting for her because I like her message of rebuilding the middle class.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I like her message of, you know class. I like her message of saying, I feel like everybody should have the opportunity to own a small business, have the opportunity to own a home, putting more money back in the working class people's pockets. That's why I'm supporting her. Yeah, yeah. And I like her stance on mental health,
Starting point is 00:29:37 and I like that she's been a leader in maternal health. I'm way past voting for people because they're black. Just because they're black. Because all skin folks get skin folks. So do you think we got, do you think we got deserve, you think we deserve to be able to ask questions? Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:29:51 A hundred percent. I said that on Twitter. I said I want to ask some questions and they got, everybody got mad. It's like, it's like, you don't, you don't get to ask questions without getting dragged. Now Meek said the same thing. Meek was like, I got some questions I want to ask. And they drugged Meek all over. They should be able to ask whatever questions you want. But they talked about Meek said the same thing. Meek was like, I got some questions I want to ask. You should be able to ask questions.
Starting point is 00:30:05 You should be able to ask whatever questions you want. But they talked about Meek real bad. You're right. And all the brother said is he just got questions. It's like we not allowed to question nothing. We not allowed to. We not allowed to educate ourselves.
Starting point is 00:30:18 We supposed to just accept everything. Nope. Not only should you ask questions, like you said, they should pull up to the trenches and have these conversations. Because we got to learn how to agree to disagree. That's right.
Starting point is 00:30:29 We got to learn how to provide different ideas and different mindsets. If we all did the exact same thing, we ate the same, dressed the same, looked the same, thought the same, had the same children, wives and husbands, like what would the world be then? You know, I think that's what would create a great company. A guy that got a Fortune 500 company, he went and hired different people with different ideas that could bring different things to the table.
Starting point is 00:30:53 But I do got some questions, right? And I feel like you, like, man, educated. What was her position as vice president? What have she done? Oh, a lot of things. A thousand days, over a thousand days. She was a leader in maternal health. When it comes to mental health, she gave $285 million to mental health.
Starting point is 00:31:11 They increased the number of mental health professionals in schools. Where is the mental health professionals at? Where they at? Because- I know in North Carolina- How are we getting access to them? Bro, I got so many little homies in the city, just in my hood alone, that don't have access to nothing,
Starting point is 00:31:28 no type of mental health, anything. They don't have no access to that. You know, we pulling up to the trenches. We talking to them. You know what I'm saying? I feel like that about the representative. I feel like that about the representative of my neighborhood. I just did a picnic every single year
Starting point is 00:31:46 me and my big homie dink dawson it's called the six nick we give away clothes shoes we got free everything just a whole day of fun i've literally not only that right of course we do the book bag stuff we do uh the thanksgiving we do full-blown mental health events and all this i have absolutely never seen the person i don't even know i don't even know this guy's name the local representative i've never seen them and i feel like i'm being taken advantage of i feel like i'm doing some i'm doing a job and somebody else is getting paid for it i feel like i'm doing this brother job but he receiving the finances for this i've never seen him you know and if somebody was to challenge him and say, what have you done? I'm sure he got a long list of big words that he can say,
Starting point is 00:32:31 well, we did the developing characteristics. We did the money every three months. You get $6,000 when you buy the first home. You get 2% off the 3% with the 5% don't equal. He's going to have a list of things and a bunch of big words, but it's still not answering the question. And when I say answer the question, answering the question with actions, you know, not just big words and paragraphs.
Starting point is 00:32:54 So that's what I mean by, like, what have. Another thing I like that, you know. I'm voting for her because she black. I'm going to say it. No, I am. But I'm giving you some reasons, though. Like capping the insulin at 35 that's something that directly impacts people that we know in the hood but but all right i probably know one person that got diabetes so like when i ask
Starting point is 00:33:17 these questions i'm asking i'm in the trenches they need help a lot of their grand i'm sure and parents that that you speaking i'm sure a lot of them got that idea. No, for sure. They probably do. And I think capping insulin at $35 is important. But realistically, right, me being able to buy extra egg or two, you know, when I was a child, I don't think that ever benefited my mind to be able to buy extra two eggs to
Starting point is 00:33:42 get another carton of milk. Like I feel like that's planned's that's plan that's like there's like bigger everyday issues that you got to get through before you can even go to the grocery store to get the eggs I get what you're saying before you even get to the grocery store 35 cap on this the $35 cap on insulin is helps a lot no no no no I think it I'm not saying it don't help right I'm saying and even. And even what you said, I understand what you're saying too, Bezo, about seeing things in your own backyard. Because in North Carolina, I know that they gave tens of millions of dollars
Starting point is 00:34:12 to historically underserved entrepreneurs as part of the American Rescue Plan. So there was a bunch of small businesses that got a bunch of money in North Carolina. I know that because I'm from South Carolina. So it's like things like that I've paid attention to. So when I hear her talk about what she wants to do with the economy, what she wants to do in regards to mental health, rebuilding the middle class, I've seen her do those things.
Starting point is 00:34:34 But they're quiet because she's vice president. Yeah, they're quiet. They're quiet. They're real quiet. I'm just going off of her actions and what I see, what it actually benefit. Nothing has changed. Nothing. Absolutely nothing has changed. Nothing. Absolutely nothing has changed in the trenches. When I tell you nothing, I mean nothing.
Starting point is 00:34:52 For over 1,000 days, nothing has changed. You know what I mean? However many days, you know, they was. And listen, and I want people to understand this, right? My questions for Kamala is not me defending her opposing, the opposing party or her opponent. My questions are for her. So I feel like that's gaslighting.
Starting point is 00:35:14 If I ask a question about Kamala and somebody say, but what if Trump did? I'm not talking. I'm not asking about Trump. I want to vote for this woman. So I got questions about her. Why is we bringing up Donald Trump? You know, I'm asking about Kamala. You're going to ask questions about the car you're buying.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Absolutely. If you're going to the dealership, if you plan on buying that car, you're going to ask every single question you want. So how do it make sense if I go ask about a Mercedes and I'm like, well, why do these Mercedes tires look like that? Well, you should see the Ford tire. Why is that beneficial? So I want us as a community to stop gaslighting each other. Stop trying to tear each other down when we got questions.
Starting point is 00:35:49 If you feel I'm wrong about anything, then respectfully come with proof to educate me about something. That don't mean I'm a fool. That don't mean I'm dumb. That don't mean I'm crazy. I can't think for myself. I'm a coon. I'm this, that, and the third.
Starting point is 00:36:02 We got to learn how to respectfully disagree. That used to exist. And just because the rest of the world may not know how to do that, we got to learn how to do that as a culture, as black people. We got to go out and show them folks, just like it go back to that question about the Detroit artists not exposing who like who in front of the world. It's equivalent to that.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Let's be able to show the world, all right, why everybody else arguing and going at each other and disrespecting each other's kids and livelihood and pride and all that because they don't agree with them. Why we got to do that? When did we become that? When you can agree and disagree across the table, I think you got to educate yourself a bit
Starting point is 00:36:42 because you want to understand where they're coming from even if you don't agree. And I know it, like, you gotta educate yourself a bit because you wanna understand where they're coming from even if you don't agree. Yeah. And I know it was a really big public thing you and Amanda Sears got into it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:50 And then you came back around and you decided to change how you felt about that. That was agree and disagree Because I'm not, I don't wanna disrespect that black woman publicly. I feel like that was
Starting point is 00:36:59 some lame shit. I, I, I felt the need to defend myself and I don't need to do that. I don't think with pride, pride coming for the fall and she's a woman however she feels she feels i gave her the same energy that she gave me she didn't agree with me so she attacked my character and she literally
Starting point is 00:37:17 never met me i don't know her we had conversations through the dm but she come out the out the gate shooting and calling me names and all of this stuff. So I said something about something that she did, which I think was corny. I shouldn't have did that. That's a woman because other people going to see that and they don't need to see another black man tearing another black woman down. She not running for president. So I don't, what she doing life ain't, I don't care. I actually care about what Kamala do and I don't what she doing life. I don't care. I actually care about what Kamala do. And I don't know what she has done. And I want to know. I want to know something that we benefited from. You know, I'm an experienced guy. I go based off experience.
Starting point is 00:37:55 So I don't need nobody to tell me what what what her presidency would be like because I've experienced it pretty much. And I want black people to understand, right, we have to ask these questions because we're not just voting for Kamala. Like if anybody really think that's who about to run the country, whether it's her or it's Trump or it's Robert Kennedy Jr., like, come on, we got to wake up. We are voting for an administration. And outside of that administration, we voting for a pack.
Starting point is 00:38:24 We voting for a lot we voting for folks we never going to see we never going to see you know so outside of what what what she will do we got to ask all right well what won't you do meaning i might not like this peck right here or i might not like these people right here can you promise me you're not going to push their agenda as well? You're not going to, you know, do favors for them? Because we don't benefit off those favors. They benefit off them favors. Their families benefit off them favors.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I don't think we need to go to war. We're fighting three proxy wars right now. It don't make sense. We're doing that with taxpayers' money. I don't feel it's fair i think we should have say so when we go to war and who we decide to go to war for or who we decide to go to war with you know the war might be justified but do it benefit american households and i don't think we need to do that so i just want black people to wake up and understand we not just voting for one person we voting for the seen and the unseen.
Starting point is 00:39:26 And it's up to you to do independent research to figure out what that unseen is. And the best way to do that is have a conversation with somebody you know does not share the same views as you. Because y'all will be able to educate each other. But the conversation won't get nowhere if I'm calling you dumb, stupid you just a word you don't know nothing imagine taking political advice from from from Bezo and and meet me that's not the way that that's not the way to conversate we got to do better so yeah I'm gonna vote for her cuz she black I want you but I want you to I want you to have some issues that you know issues but I'm not allowed to speak on them because my people are going to drag me.
Starting point is 00:40:08 They're going to call me names. They're going to disrespect me. People that never met me are going to say what's in my heart, what's not in my heart. They're going to do that. I'm not allowed to ask questions. I just don't want you got certain people on the right that will use that against her. See, they're only voting for her because she black. She don't got no policy.
Starting point is 00:40:26 And then it's up to them people to go and look at the full context. Let's bring back critical thinking. Let's do that. I agree with that. Look at the full context. So I would love for some on the left or the right. I'm not with a party. I'm with black Americans.
Starting point is 00:40:40 I'm with people. I'm not with a party. I'm not pushing anybody's agenda. So somebody take that i'm gonna say it again for you i'm voting for her because she black because that's what i'm supposed to do that's what i'm told i'm not gonna ask no questions because i'm not allowed to ask questions i'm not gonna question her because who am i to question her i'm not gonna ask what has she done as vice president because i don't supposed to ask that i'm not gonna ask her what's the plans
Starting point is 00:41:04 for her future presidency if she wins i'm not allowed ask that. I'm not going to ask her what's the plans for her future presidency if she wins. I'm not allowed to ask that. I'm not allowed to ask about her policies. I'm not allowed to question the concerts and all of that. Like, I'm not allowed to not like to pander. I'm not allowed to do that because I'm supposed to be a good old boy and follow the – we got to follow each other. Fall in line, not in love. I got to fall in line like a good old boy. So I'm her and follow if we got to follow each other in line
Starting point is 00:41:25 I gotta fall in line like a good old boy so I'm voting for her cuz she's black that's what y'all want that's what I'm doing now somebody take this out of context right I want them to do gonna do we're gonna post the full context yeah okay and it's up to y'all black people to to to speak up for me and said that's not what he said go look at the full context let's see if we can do that i get it critical thinking back thank you now the reason you here is you're on tour right now yes absolutely welcome to our side he know what he be doing when he do that you're getting me going. You and Peezy been touring. Talk about that tour.
Starting point is 00:42:08 This is your own tour. Yeah, this is my first tour. I ain't never been on tour. This is my first tour ever. Independently. Absolutely. Never been on tour. Y'all doing it independently.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Me and my brother Peezy, that's my twin right there. You know, we from the same hood, same part, all that. You know what I mean? So, yeah. What did that mean for y'all to, all that, you know what I mean, so yeah. What did that mean for y'all to be on tour together? It mean a lot because we started together, you know, and we obviously went two separate paths and then we came right back together, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:36 so it just show we were able to make a lot of money and stay the same, you know, so would prove to ourselves when big me said it never happened again well it just happened you know so yeah that mean a lot to me well tour is out right now how can people get tickets and also i wanted to ask you know one time i think you were like the outcast of detroit but it seems like the love is coming back yeah i was the outcast uh i missed out on record deals i was banned from the radio stations. Concerts. I was banned from concerts. I couldn't go to no venues.
Starting point is 00:43:08 I think one concert, they didn't want you to perform. And I forced it on my set. Yeah. Yeah. Why? Who you beat up, Bezel? It's a long story. Who got shot?
Starting point is 00:43:16 And they was mad at me. They never booked me again, by the way, Bezel. I just want to let you know that. The hell? Oh, they did? No, they never booked me again. No, that's crazy. I had to show.
Starting point is 00:43:22 We did a concert in Detroit. I was hosting. And Bezel wasn't invited. It was all a Oh, that's crazy. I had to show. We did a concert in Detroit. I was hosting. And Vezza wasn't invited. It was all a bunch of Detroit artists. So I had a set. So Vezza was my guy. I said, have the mic right there. We're going to play your record.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Do what you got to do. Dang, he did too, bro. I ain't going to lie. I remember. Did the crowd go crazy? Yeah, of course. That's all that mattered. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Bro really did that too, bro. I appreciate that. You know? Yeah, I was banned From everything Now I'm back I'm back It's love Bro can I get tickets
Starting point is 00:43:48 I'm God listen I'm terrible Cause I'm ghetto Cause guess what Link in my bio Link in the bio She said
Starting point is 00:43:55 She said She said before you Need to go there Sell the tickets Yeah Nah the link in my bio Y'all Come on
Starting point is 00:44:03 Let's get this Y'all know what we doing Y'all know the link in that bio. Come on, let's get this. Y'all know what we're doing now. Y'all know the link in that bio. It starts September 12th in L.A. We're coming to a ghetto near you. We're bringing the trenders out. Listen, check this out, right? I'm bringing my food truck.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I'm bringing merch. I'm bringing everything. You know what I mean? We're bringing all the guys. We're bringing studios, studio equipment. We're bringing the cameras. You want to do a verse? You want to shoot a video?
Starting point is 00:44:24 We're doing that. You want some merch? We got that. You hungry? We got a food truck outside. We thugging it out. We master P with this shit. Word. Yeah, we on all that. November 29th is the Detroit date. That's fine. November 29th, y'all. Y'all grab them tickets, though, for real, though. This is my first tour.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Welcome to our side tour. Welcome to our side. All right, well, we appreciate you for joining us. Always, my brother. Appreciate right. Well, we appreciate you for joining us. Always, my brother. Appreciate y'all, brother. And live from the 6-2, coming soon, November 20th. Y'all get ready. Let's get it.
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