The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: IDK Talks New Album 'BRAVADO INTiMO,' Getting Into Music, Virgil Abloh, DMX, Billie Eilish + More

Episode Date: November 20, 2024

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With IDK To Discuss His New Album 'BRAVADO  INTiMO,' Getting Into Music, Virgil Abloh, DMX, And Billie Eilish. Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Wake that ass up. Early in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ, Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got Lauren LaRosa filling in for Jess and also our nephew. I was gonna say our nephew.

Our niece. That's wild. Our niece Nala with us today. Wow. Shut up. You always gotta fight Dominican. Why? Why you always gotta fight with a Dominican? That's crazy. Our niece. Nala, I'm sorry, Nala. I love gotta fight Dominicans. Shut up. Why? Why you always gotta fight with a Dominican?

That's Korean. I was nice. Nah, let's see, I'm sorry, Mala. I love you, Mala. It's okay. Wow, wow, wow. And we got a special guest in the building. We got IDK.

Welcome, brother. What's up, what's up, buddy? How you feeling, man? I'm feeling good, man. It's good to be here. The first time I came here, I came a little too late and wasn't able to do the interview, so everything happens for a reason.

Well, happy to have you, brother. That's right. Been hearing your name for a long, long, long time. How was the show with G-Eazy? How's the tour going? So far, so good, man. G been real cool. And he actually brought me on my first run ever in my life, like in like 2015 or something like that. So it's like full circle, you know?

Lovely. So for people that don't know who IDK is, where you from, this is the first time, some people are hearing you, give them a breakdown of where you're from, what your name stands for and all that. Oh yeah, so it's IDK from the DMV, PG County, Maryland, specifically.

You just said you was from Queens the other day, now. And Tampa, and Tampa, and Germany. First of all, y'all not gonna do this. I'm an army brat, my family from Florida. I grew up in Maryland. I went to me high school, I'm from Severin, Maryland, so don't be that. And then I went to, I moved to New York for college.

I've been here 11 years. That kinda sound like me, like I was born in London, but I came to America when I was like two years old. So I grew up in a DMV PG County. IDK stands for ignorantly delivering knowledge. I've always liked that acronym. Because I totally understand what you mean when you say that.

Because I always say you gotta be the perfect balance of ratchiness and righteousness. So ignorantly delivering knowledge is like saying I gotta put the medicine in the candy. Right, right, kinda like that. Yeah, I was actually in prison when I came up with that acronym. So I was in state prison when I was younger, and I came up with the acronym,

Inglurrantly Delivering Knowledge, because I wanted people to be like, what does IDK stand for? Like, does that mean I don't know? And I always feel like if I prompt somebody to ask a question and I answer it, you're more likely to remember it than me just telling you. You feel me?

How did you get into rap? I'm sorry. I was gonna say you went to, you mentioned prison. Yeah. You went to prison the same year that you went to college? Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of the times I went.

One of, because it was four, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So let's talk about the first time and then I wanna know how the whole, I'm going to college but then I end up in prison. Like what's that story, how? What was first? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So let's talk about the first time, and then I wanna know how the whole, I'm going to college, but then I end up in prison. Like, what's that story? How does that track? Man, first of all, I come from a West African background,

so my mom swam Sierra Leone, my dad swam Ghana. I'm literally the first person in my family to get locked up. But, um. That's not a good thing. Yeah, I mean. First generation prison. But also, first person. First generation prison is not a good thing.

Fair, but I turned it around, so at the same time. That's not a good thing. Yeah, I mean, but also first person. First person to be in prison is not a good thing. Fair, but I turned it around, so at the same time. That's true. But yeah, that kinda was like something like, when I was 17, I got jammed up, had some charges, stuff to do with robberies and guns, things like that. And then pretty much I went to prison, of jail, but the thing was I was on, I got sentenced to 15 years, suspended to three, and they allowed me to do it

on home detention, but getting in trouble and violations and technical things. Put you back. Yeah, that's how I got back. When did you start rapping? What made you say, you know what, I wanna leave the streets alone and focus on this rap career?

I mean, the first time I got locked up, I realized it wasn't for me. Right away, I was like, nah, nah, nah, I can't do this. So, you know. But you went back three more times. Yeah, but it was like violation, technical stuff. Gotcha. It was like. I'm not judging you.

No, no, no, no. I fucked with you several times myself. Okay, so I'm not judging you. Don't think I'm judging you. Okay. No, no, it was technical though. It wasn't like I kept doing things. It was just violations and stuff like that.

But basically, the last time I was in, before I went in, I was listening to Kendrick Lamar and J. Cole and where I'm from, people don't really listen to that, but I had a friend that went to FAMU and he would come back with more, I would say eclectic rap. And I was like, oh man, people rap like this?

That's interesting. So I remember being in prison. I was a tutor, so I helped people get their GEDs, and I also was a barber. And I just remember I would just write music, and everybody would listen, see me bobbing my head right in, and they'd be like, yo, spit, rap,

like I ain't know you rap. And so one day I just did it, and see me like bobbing my head right in and they'd be like, yo, spit, rap, like I ain't know you rap, like. And so one day I just did it and I was like, man, if I could make people that's pissed off in prison, like music, maybe it'll work for me when I get out. I tried it. What lifestyle changes did you make though? Because you know what, my dad used to always tell me, if you don't change your lifestyle,

you gonna end up in jail, dead, or broke, sitting on the tree. What lifestyle changes did you make? I just started feeling like I needed to actually get a job. So when I first got out, I didn't care what it was. Actually, my first job was McDonald's. I was proud to go to McDonald's and work, to be honest. Because I was like, man, I got a job.

I got some type of purpose. Let me try to just turn this around. So that was probably the first big one. And then trying to go to school, I was going to turn this around. So that was probably the first big one. And then trying to go to school, I was going to PG Community College. So getting back in school was another thing. For the first time that you went to jail, what would you attribute the why to?

Would you say it was the internet? Would you say it was just your environment? It was the want for love. My parents loved me, but I didn't know how to comprehend the way they gave me love, right? So I never got great grades. I grew up middle class, but I was surrounded by the hood

and I went to school in the hood. So I identify more with the people that also didn't get good grades. And that comes with a lot of stuff because they coming from different backgrounds and they doing different things. So I felt like whenever I would do something bad, they would show me respect and that was the love

that I wanted. I'm glad you guys had that explanation quick because saying you want to go to jail for love is crazy. No, I know right, it's crazy. I'm glad that you understand though, like there's nuance to that though. You know what I mean? I was gonna ask, when you started rapping,

what did your family say at first, right? Were they behind you the whole way? They was like, oh, here you go, FF. African parents, absolutely. You know what, though? It wasn't as bad as you would think. Because it was in Jeff's? Yeah, right.

It was like, how much worse could this be? It couldn't get no worse than what I already did. So my mom was just happy I was doing something positive. You know, but she passed away. She never got to listen. Well she got to listen to my music. She heard it once and she was like, but she would brag about it,

but she would never listen to it. Like my mom, till she passed, never heard me curse. Like I never said a curse word around her. But in my music, she would hear it. She would hear it in her music, yeah. What did the sound sound like at the time? Because you really dibble and dabble in all different genres, all different sounds.

So what did she hear? A lot of cursing, a lot of bad words, a lot of rap. Eclectic rap. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Depends on how you, because again, just. Eclectic rap. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, depends on how you, cause like again, the whole ignorantly delivering knowledge thing, depending on how you first hear me, you'll think I'm one thing and it might not be that.

And you're growing in real time, right? Cause it's like, it's your fifth studio album. Yeah, this will be my fifth one, yeah. What's the evolution of IDK been from that first project to now? It's like just this idea of finding what I actually want to express sonically. So I feel like I've always been dibbling and dabbling

in different types of music, but this now is more like I'm creating a sound, like a feeling, you know?'s like taking like a certain melodic like Element and then trying to put like different drums around it. Maybe to switch the genre up, but the feeling is constant consistent That's probably the biggest thing that I've grown into now Is on is he real is he real album? Yeah, I'm looking at some of the features on it that people don't know yet into now. On Is He Real album. Yeah. I'm looking at some of the features on it that people don't know.

You had DMX on that album? Yeah, well that was actually, it's so funny because I have something with him that we're getting ready to put together. But on that album specifically, it was something that I sampled, a prayer he did. But I had to chase him down like at South by Southwest and pull up on him to get it clear, like yo, yo, I'm I.D.K. like that. So I had to find him.

How was that conversation? How was I.D.K.? Did he know who he was? He didn't know who I was at that time. Are you on the prayer album that he got dropping? No, I'm not on that album. I did a feature for him after though. So he got to know who I was after that.

I did a feature for him prior to him So he got to know who I was after that. I did a feature for him prior to him passing. Did you have a relationship at all? Like small, like just kinda through like, you know, people that we knew and things like that. But yeah. What was the conversation like when you ran up on him and was like, hey, I'm trying to get this cleared. He was like, it's done.

Literally, just like that. Like. And you thought he was bullshitting, you was like, all right, who I gotta go to? And he was like, it's done. Yeah, basically, pretty much. And he got it done. Ititting, you was like, all right, who I gotta go to? And he was done. Yeah, basically, pretty much. And he got it done. One of the coolest.

What is intimo? I knew I was called bravado and intimo. What does intimo mean? It's like the Italian word for intimate. Okay, okay. So bravado is like, kinda like braggadocious, talking about stuff, but the intimo part is where it comes from.

Like, a lot of like why I care, like I like wearing certain things and I like style, things like that. And it comes from the being made fun of when I was like in the sixth grade, but not having certain things. And I just remember being like a kid going to school depressed

because I know they're gonna make fun of me. So I remember ninth grade, that's before I started getting into trouble and getting money. I literally said to myself, I will never be made fun of for dressing bad ever again for the rest of my life. And that explains the bravado side,

because the bravado side is you just see it, you just see the flaws and all that, but the intimo side is where it comes from. And then you get money and realize you don't even care about clothes like that. Right, that also starts to happen too. You know what I mean? It's like you like stuff, but people put me

in a fashion world because I do a lot of stuff in that world, but it's not by choice. I just know people, they like what I do, and then they just ask me to do things but I don't try to do that. If you get fly, you can just do it. Yeah, exactly. Now another feature, you had Kanye West

on the song Selena and the Trappy. Well, nah. Winner house? That was another sample situation where pretty much we got, that was a crazy one because that was a Jay-Z song initially, so everybody had to kind of do that. What was that process like?

Because Kanye is kind of hard to, it wasn't as fast as the DMX approval, was it? Well, maybe, yeah, it took a little while actually. But I'll be real, like, Ye has reached out to me and I've hung out with him multiple times, like, so you know, it's not, that one is a little different.

I remember when I dropped Is He Real? I was with 88 Keys, and 88 comes up to me and passes me the phone from my unknown number, and I answer and it's like, yo, it's Ye. And I'm like, oh snap. And he was just like, I've been hearing about your album. It wasn't out at the time. He was like, man, at some point today,

I'd love to connect with you and next thing you know, I was in Calabasas just hanging out at the crib, you know? So yeah, Ye had shown love and I've actually like linked up with him a couple of times. On a new project, what would you say is your favorite record? Miles Trumpet. I like that one a lot, because I'm singing, you know, and I'm like, kind of like, that was a beat

where I listened to it, I'm like, I hear Griselda on this beat, so instead of doing what they would do, I would just sing. It seems like a fan favorite too. Yeah, it seems like it. I really like Check. I feel like Check is braggadocious, it's swaggy. But on it, well first of all actually the music video,

who came up with the concept for that? Why is it just a girl shaking her ass the whole time? I'm really trying to, what are you giving? Well the great part about that one is ignorantly delivering knowledge is just a juxtaposition. Like when I hear that beat in that song, I'm really rapping. So you don't really see that happening, but there has, I think the rhythm is what I wanted

to articulate by having her do that. Cause you listen to it, you don't think you could do that to that song. But then when you see her do it, you realize you can. You know, so that was what that was about. Were you a fan of Miles Davis? Or your parents were? Well, yeah, I mean, like I have records from him,

but I'll say this, I've heard a few different things, and everything that I've heard from him has made me feel a certain way, but I do need to dig more into what he's got going on, because I did see some stuff from like the documentary and stuff. How he would switch his bands around and all these things. I thought that was inspiring, but yeah.

I want to talk about the No Label Academy that you did at Harvard. So Charlamagne, I love this too, because you did two lectures on mental health. Why did you feel like that was so important to do? Well, so the class is a 10 day experience that people from all around the world, students apply, and then we pick about 20 to 25 of them,

and I teach the class. And it goes from branding, which I call story and vision, to financial literacy, to team building, and mental health is the last thing, we taught that at the medical school at Harvard. I think mental health is really important because I always say this, as human beings, we've evolved socially a lot, so many different times

since, they say we're about 300,000, 75 to 300,000 years old, like where we are biologically. We've evolved, I think, way too much socially to keep up with where we are biologically. So when you, fame is something we created, that's not something we were built for or made for. So like, a lot of times people deal with fame in a way that could be detrimental. And I think that people don't teach the aspect and the importance of mental health

when they're actually pushing them to be famous. So for me this class was supposed to prepare you from a business perspective for what you or the artist you're working with could be dealing with once they get in a game. And I think a lot of the times labels will see like, oh, this person is hot. They come from this neighborhood and all that.

Yeah, that's cool and all that. But like, and then they not ready for the corporate. Like they not understanding what that is. So now you're expecting somebody whose manager might be like just a homie to know how to move within a corporate setting and be successful and then sustain that success. I think that creates a lot of problems

for a lot of different people. How has your mental been? Cause you talked about kids making fun of you back in the day. Now being on social media is times a thousand is as far as the amount of comments. Sometimes people just say negative stuff just to try to get a reaction.

So how you deal with social media now? I mean, look, I lost my mom. She died from HIV, complications from that. And I didn't know that until after she passed, when I found out. So I never had that closure of being able to talk to her about it, right? So when you look at that kind of stuff,

and then you look at what I've been through with prison and all this stuff, man, I'm kind of primed for, it's like it doesn't really get much worse. You've been through real shit. Yeah. So for me, it's like second nature almost, dealing with some of the stuff. That's nothing to me.

When they like COVID, I'm like, I was just, I was actually on 23 lockdown, 23 hour lockdown at one point. Like this is nothing to me with a book. You know what I mean? So for me, like- I love a good quarantine. Yeah, right.

Right. Right. I got a phone. You wild. I got a phone. Yeah, so. You're wild. I got a phone. Yeah, so to me it don't really get much worse. So I just try to figure out how to express that to people who haven't gone through those things.

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Not only that, everybody kinda is because you gotta think about it. If you have social media, when you post something, even if it's just a local, before you, they had to see you do it, right? Now you can just be like, yeah, I went and ate this ice cream at so and so, and then people comment like, ah, why'd you get that flavor?

Like, that's what everybody has some form of fame if you have social media. And then you think about high school, it's like the popular kid in high school would be popular when they walk in school, or maybe certain things happen after school, but, it's like the popular kid in high school would be popular when they walk in school, or maybe certain things happen after school. But now it's like, oh yeah, he got 1500 followers. And the school was like 3000 people,

so that half the school, you know what I mean? It's just like, so everyone's dealing with some form of fame right now, and I think that that's an issue. And I feel sorry for these kids because it makes them overthink everything. The example you gave is like, you shouldn't be having to question,

nobody should be questioning you about what flavor ice cream you want. That's what you want. You know what I'm saying? You don't want to get canceled for your beat, Nikola. Yes, but every single thing you do is questioned, so therefore you're questioning every single thing you do in your mind.

Every little mundane thing you do, you're overthinking it. That's what I mean. Biologically, we haven't evolved, but socially, we're constantly evolving, and we dealing with AI and all these things starting to happen, it's only gonna get faster and faster. No, in that class at Harvard, that's the class that Virgil came to?

Yes, Virgil, before he passed, he was supposed to speak for 30 minutes. He spoke for an hour, 30 minutes. Wow, shout out to V. So you saw the, this happened like a few months ago. I'm almost, yeah a few months ago when they, Blue Star Alliance acquired Off-White LVMH. Okay yeah I saw that.

You saw that? And you saw people, I know you said you don't like being put in the fashion lane, but I just would love to get your opinion on that because people were upset about that because they felt like it was gonna devalue the brand and what Virgilette worked for. How you feel about that?

Well, you know, whenever art meets commerce, it's always gonna get watered down. If I sign to a record label, there's songs that are better singles than the song that I might believe because of the range of entry points people could have to that song. You make that decision once you decide to do art.

Because, bro, we could do whatever art we want and be homeless. If we okay with that, that's cool too. I say that to say, with that particular situation, one, I don't know the details to it. I don't know too much of it. But the idea that something could be watered down, it depends on the details of the deal

and what they got going on and who controls what. I think that came from Virgil's brain at the end of the day and Virgil is not here. So there's always gonna be some type of difference, right? But yeah, when art meets commerce, that's what happens. You know, it's a battle. I always look at everything as, don't look at it as an on and off switch,

look at it as a percentage Knowing him personally do you think that Virgil would be happy with like just where off by is right now and today because that's also Been a conversation too They've had like different leadership in and out and stuff like that You know there's people that are friends of mine's who could answer that question Far better than I could because I don't have enough of I didn't have that relationship with him where I would know what happiness is actually to him when it comes to that brand. How did y'all meet? He followed me, I did the cover of GQ's, British GQ and it was a Louis Vuitton exclusive.

And so I debuted the NBA collab that they had and from, he followed me and then I got a Maybach. You bought his virtual, his off-white Maybach? No, no, I got one. Oh, his regular one. And he was like, welcome to the club. And then we started talking from there. Listen, I gotta slide out, it was a pleasure meeting you. Of course, of course.

Your hairline's immaculate. Appreciate it. You're not gonna return the favor, you're not gonna say that? You're not gonna say that? You're not gonna say that? You two, you two, you two. You gonna lie to that man?

Now how has the industry changed since you first came out and did your first mixtape? How have you seen how things changed? Because usually when artists first do the mixtape it's their core, they only care about their core, but now it's something different. Now you're looking for a radio record, now you're looking for something

that's gonna go on the charts, now you're looking for a radio record. Now you're looking for something that's gonna go on the charts. Now you're looking for those things. So how has things changed for you? I mean, look, when I first started, streaming wasn't really a thing like that. It was still kinda iTunes and people reviewing the song or album or whatever. Things have changed a lot because people

and the algorithm dictates a lot of what, a lot of the decisions you could potentially make. So now we in a place where we could like think a song sounds like a single but that doesn't matter anymore. Like, you know, I can't rely on like DJs to break the record the same way as before. It's kinda like, this is the record based off of the algorithm and streaming and the fans,

so now we push it, you know? I think in a lot of ways it's good, in a lot of ways it's not good. That makes it difficult, but you know, the DJ, now he follows the algorithm, he follows what people are listening to, what's streaming, instead of just, you know, what somebody's feeling, which makes it difficult.

And being from the DMV area, how difficult is it for that? Especially being a rapper, you don't really see too many from DMV rap, that are huge, but there's a lot of talent in the DMV area. Yeah, it's funny, I think I was just talking to Jaha and No Idea about this, they were like, yo, you know what's crazy with your situation? One, you don't have, if you look at rap,

there's a lot of people who have some kind of cosign by somebody that they're aligned with, especially when you make the type of rap that I make. And then another thing is if not that, at least they have like a really big city that they're coming from that's huge in music. And right now we're growing obviously in the DMV, but it is in like New York or Atlanta or LA, right?

So it's like, they basically was like, yo, you kinda have to make your own way in a way that a lot of people don't. Not saying that people don't make their own way, I'm saying like in a way that most people don't. And I thought about that and I was like, wow, actually there is a, you have a point. The good thing I'll say about where I'm from though,

is when it comes to originality, there is a lot to pull from. There's a huge culture. I come from go-go, that's where I started doing music. Go-go bands and stuff like that. So, you got a lot to pull from. And when it does work and when it does break, it's going to be beautiful. However, you gotta roll up your sleeves.

You gotta remain poised. Yeah, I feel like the DMV area doesn't get heard like it should. Yeah, for sure. And honestly, if I didn't go to Hampton, I would have never understood the DMV area. Yeah, for sure. You see artists like Wale that took a long time

to break through, or even Pusha that took a long time to break through or even Pusha that took a long time to break through. It's like, it comes so last with the respect and I think because it's such a small area but a big area. Yeah, man, it's a melting pot of a lot of beautiful things. And I think that there is a certain level of, I say like, segregation within the type of thing that you may do versus the type of thing this person might do.

But I think when we figure out how to kind of bring it all together, that is gonna, also I have this theory. When the commanders start winning, we'll start to see our industry getting better. That's, so I think it's around a corner like. When the commander start winning we'll start to see our industry That's I think I think it's you know Like LA everything is so celebrity there the team so then

The only reason why I don't think that's gonna be a thing it just because the DMV just doesn't have the structure for it Like we don't have home base for media. I had to go to New York to do media we don't have a home base for media. I had to go to New York to do media. We don't have a home base for artists. We have recording studios, but industries, you wanna make it LA, Atlanta, New York, to actually be a part of an industry algorithm. So I agree with you from that perspective, but the one thing I will say is

that's the industry part of it, but artistically, sound-wise, right? That's the it, but artistically sound wise, right? That's the first thing that has to happen regardless, right? And I think that there are people that are willing to travel to kind of get those other things done. I think that like, just even recently, like they got like El Custo with the song and then Earl Sweatshirt was on it

and then it started blowing up. And I remember I saw the Earl part of it and I was like, this sound like he like, rapping like he from the city. Like, that's what he sound like. I didn't know that the dude whose song he was on was from, you get what I'm saying? So I think like that opens people's eyes to the sound

and I think that, or ears. I think it's a good thing. I think the lack of the industry is a good thing because it keeps us having a regional sound or a regional flavor and a lot of cities like that because they have those outlets. Yeah, yeah. And also look, man, rap is, they saying it right now,

rap is very regional based. They've got people in France that's the superstars now and they ain't looking at what's happening in New York to see who the superstar is now, you know? So I think building on that is probably one of the most important things. Now coming up in the DMV area,

were those artists having open arms for you? Like a Wale or Pusha? I know you got regular Pusha. Yeah, Wale, I got like two of Wale. Wale brought me out, like the first year I started poppin', he brought me out to do his Wale and Friends show, I remember that. He was one of the first to embrace me.

That's dope. Push, I had to push. Push, I felt like followed me on a gram and we just kinda was chopping it up. Then I asked him for a record, he's like, I got you, and he sent it through. I definitely got embraced. I think that the thing is that, again,

it's kind of segregated in the sounds. So certain people only listen to this sound, and then certain people are more open to other sounds. I think as we start to progress, that'll change, hopefully. But that's what I'd say. Absolutely. You said on this project, once you turn 40 you retire and you're disappearing. Is that really the end goal?

I don't know if I'll disappear but I think that by retire people think I mean like stop rapping and I don't know if I mean that. I mean right now I'm constantly competing with myself to do better every time. Like to the point where like, you know, family may get neglected. I don't, you know, I talk to my family on like, like the holidays and stuff. I don't, like my grandma wants to hear from me more

and things like that. Yeah. Oh my God, not every day? Nah, not every day. Like I'm not even in the mental space with how I view success, to be able to tap into that every day. Every day is, what can I do to make sure

that when I'm 40, my family, I don't have kids or anything yet and I'm not in a relationship, but one day I will be. You not dating Billy? No. Yo, everybody thinks y'all are dating. What? Nobody thinks I'm dating Billy.

Oh my God, okay. I did see something one time about that, but that was like a while back. Okay. Nah, nah, nah. Y'all just cool. Yeah, she's a homie, she's an amazing artist. But yeah, like when I get,

what was it? She see it too. You already talked about this, so you knew people thought that. I said that, I said people said it. Yeah, yeah. But I guess it's because they were trying to piece together like photos,

and I guess the way you all take photos. Which was crazy, I'm like bro, that's not my house. Cause you know when it's a guy and a girl, it's like. That ain't my house. I don't know what they was talking about. Dang. Yeah, I think she posted stuff of me and things like that. People just be wanting relationships to. That's interesting too, like. But no, I'm she posted stuff, you know me and things like that and I'm just be wanting relationships to that's interesting too

Like but no what I'm just trying to make sure that when I am 40 and I decided It's like everything is structured and laid out for me in a way where I can actually do that comfortably So till then, you know, I mean Billy Alice is single though. I'm gonna say now I'm going down this rabbit Is she I will say time waits for no man when it comes to like, yes your career but also your family too. Family. So definitely call your grandma. No for sure, no I know it, I'm not saying,

I just said the picture in the WhatsApp like, right before we got, I'm not saying like I'm like. So you would contact, it's just you also working a lot too. Yeah, yeah. Like not talking to your grandma, I'm like dang. I didn't say I don't talk to my grandmother. I probably talked to her like a week ago, two weeks ago, something like that.

I talk to her every so often. I have a big family too. So when I talk to my grandma, now everybody, I gotta holla at someone so, it'd be like a three hour thing, you know what I mean? I understand. We appreciate you for joining us today. The new album, Bravado, is out right now.

Thank you so much. I know last time, I know you came late, but we glad you came now. We appreciate it so much. Great talking to you, brother. We came early this time. Yeah, I see. Y'all was on time.

That's why y'all wasn't effing around. Yeah, for sure. Now you got me down this rabbit hole of the photos and all that. Oh. She setting you up with Billie Eilish right now. Is this like a press outlet? What's going on?

Oh, what am I reading? Yeah. Hip Hop DX. But if you just Google you and her, it's a few outlets, but. Really? Yeah. See, you thought I made that,

he's like, then nobody said it. No, no. I really saw that. Did you take it offensively because of the age thing? Cause you had said, like, yo, she was like 17, I was, it was like, you were 28, right? I mean, of course that has a lot to do with it. You know what I'm saying?

I mean, yo, I mean, cause the way you responded was like, new year 28, right? That was, yeah. Of course that has a lot to do with it. You know what I'm saying? I mean, yo, I mean, cause the way you responded was like, what, her? But I mean the age thing, of course, but then it's like, y'all just really homies in real life. Like is it really not that? Yeah, like she, you know, she pressed me out about something the other day. We was being funny about it.

What'd you do? I didn't do nothing. Why'd she press you? She thought something happened, but it was like a song leaked or something like that. And she was like, who did that? But it was a funny press, it wasn't a real press. It ain't like the real, not full court, half court.

So you gonna retire at 40, right? And this has nothing to do with Billie Eilish. You gonna retire at 40, at 40 then you're gonna start reconnecting more with your family. For sure. Then you gonna have, you wanna have a family as well? Yeah, I would love to. How old are you now?

32. 32, so are you like. How old are you now? 32. 32, so are you dating somebody? Are you in a relationship? I'm not in a relationship, but they ain't nobody right now. So what age does that come in? That's not an age, it's a feeling thing. When you find somebody.

It could happen right now. I'm just saying, cause you got an age for your retirement, you got an age for when you plan on doing more to just dropping the photos into What's At, T'Nana. Okay. So I'm just trying to see if there's a timeline here that we can check.

Definitely not a timeline on something like love and connecting with the right person. It could happen right now. I don't care, ask her the same question now. Okay, yeah, same question right back at you. Which one? I asked you a couple questions. What's the age?

Oh, what's my age? I'm actively trying to figure it out right now. Okay, so you don't have nobody, just like you asked him, what age are you looking to find somebody to settle down? I ain't got no Billie Eilish on my line. Whoa, see now he's looking for more headlines. I mean, I ain't got no name where it's nothing worth bringing up.

I'm asking you because you know that's a name, you know? Oh man, you could get me in trouble, man. Well, I do, before we wrap, I kinda wanna talk about Supernova with the artist. Okay, okay, okay. The artist is so fire. I'm glad that you guys collabed because you guys both are like very talented. Talk to me about just shooting Supernova.

Well, so so funny with her. A friend of mine was like, I was like, I want a girl on this song. I just feel like he's like, you should check this person out. And I checked her on that she was fire. So I know, buddy. Yeah, she's new. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, I hit her up. She's like budding, yeah she's new. Yeah and I was like y'all hit her up, she's like excited, she sent me the verse like probably in three days and then I was just like

wow she like really killed this so for me that was like a risky song cause I don't really go all the way, I don't know if that's R&B I guess. It is R&B and I was gonna say like do you see yourself leaning more into that now? I like stuff like that man? I like stuff like that, man. I like stuff I could play with, like a woman that I'm with or something like that,

and it doesn't have to be negative. Because I think I would always do this thing where I would start saying nice things and then be like, but. And I was like, nah, I'm not doing that. I'm going all the way. I'm going all the way. So that was what that was about. Nice, I think you should lean into that. Okay, I'm not doing anything. I'm going all the way. I'm going all the way. So that was what that was about.

Nice. I think you should lean into that. OK. I'll take your advice. Well, thank you, brother, for joining us this morning. For sure. It's IDK. The Breakfast Club.

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