The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Jabriel Films Talks 'I Hate I Love You' Getting Into Film, Directing, Casting Jess Hilarious + More
Episode Date: November 22, 2024The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Jabriel Films To Discuss 'I Hate I Love You' Getting Into Film, Directing, And Casting Jess Hilarious. Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy infor...mation.
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It's DJ, Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious,
Charlamagne the guy, we are the Breakfast Club.
We got a special guest in the building.
Yes indeed.
We have Jibril, Films in the Building.
Good morning.
Good morning, what's going on y'all?
How's it feeling?
Hey, I feel amazing man, it's a blessing to be here.
I've been a fan of the show for a long time.
Yeah, that's what's up.
Man, so, Charlamagne always make fun of my roles in movies.
I love her acting.
No, he's a liar.
He thinks I belong on 2B and that's all,
I need to stay, that's my home and everything.
And he was shocked to know that I was in a movie
that was on, that's on Peacock.
Peacock, yeah.
And that executive produced it.
Hey!
Come on, that's right.
That's right. That's right.
That's right.
By the way, I love Tubi.
I have no problem with Tubi.
OK.
Nah, but I mean, yeah, we're on Peacock now.
I hate I love you just dropped.
It's my directorial debut.
Jess Hilarious, one of the co-stars.
We got Keiria Schroeder.
Rederick.
Rederick Williams.
We got Ernest D. Morrison, Javier McIntosh, Sean Freeman, Lil Scrappy.
Lil Scrappy, man, Lil Scrappy bodied that role.
Who did good, he did really, really well.
I love that.
Sounds like a tubby cast, but it's not.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, it ain't, it ain't, nah.
You gon' see some of these people in major roles.
Like this is, this is.
Clown, how did you get into film, Jabril?
I got my start actually through my brothers, Javier and Shaq.
Since we've been kids, we've been filming like at home videos.
And that transition into when I was about 18,
I just was running around Atlanta with a camera, going to all the clubs,
you know, just trying to film any artists that I could.
And from there, I got picked up and started to go on tour.
So I was a big baby drum.
So I was his day to day.
And so we did his first tour with Ari Lennox
and then that led to touring with Kendrick Lamar.
So I did the damn tour with Travis Scott and them.
And from there, like my name really started to buzz
in the industry.
So I took, you know, my expertise in that
and transitioned into films and commercials.
So I started doing commercials for Under Armors and some of my favorites.
I used to direct campaign videos for Stacey Abrams, sorry, Leader Abrams.
And then from there, I just started shooting movies as a cinematographer,
doing like Keisha Cole's biopic and Never Would Have Made It.
But now it's transitioning into my directorial debut,
which is I Hate I Love You.
So for I Hate I Love You, did you film it yourself,
produce it yourself, and then sell it to Peacock?
So Maverick and Freelee Films,
they kind of put together that play,
but I was one of the producers and directors
and my team with BP40,
we pretty much just use all of our resources to film it.
Like it's all of our own equipment,
we brought everything to the table
and I directed, edited and built the score.
The reason I ask is, you know,
all of these streaming platforms, they need content.
And you know, people, they joke about 2B,
but that's essentially what 2B was.
But all of these streaming platforms
are gonna be taking that model.
Yeah.
Facts, facts, yeah.
And I think it's like, it's just important, like what we did, which is, we just used our whole community but all of these streaming platforms are gonna be taking that model. Yeah. Facts, facts. Yeah.
And I think it's like, it's just important like what we did
which is we just used our whole community
to kind of bring it together and like all of our friends,
family, we brought everybody together
to make the film happen, especially because
we filmed it last December, which of course is like
right after the film strike.
So everybody was hungry, like pretty much nobody had worked
for a year, so we all came together for this one project.
Why did you cast Jess?
So actually, to be honest, I didn't cast Jess,
but when they brought her name up,
I was like, oh, she's gonna be perfect for this role.
Because for one, I knew she could actually act.
She can definitely actually act, I'm telling you.
So it's like, people are asleep on that side of Jess.
We all know she's funny, but she can actually act.
And the good thing about her in those scenes like when we're actually going through it every
take she brings something different you know so some actors they just give you the you
know the same take back to back to back but Jess always brings something new so I mean
I forever want to put her in my movies.
Thank you.
Yeah for sure.
Yeah and then a lot of people was talking about my role why did y'all have me play that
role now?
The issue I played a mother was the issue
Little spoiler alert man
When I was that first lady at BMF, I slept with my best friend's man to there and everybody is
Right Everybody like just this what you do?
Nah, we gonna switch it up next time.
We gonna switch it up next time.
But you did body that role.
Yeah.
You killed it.
Thank you.
Did you have, was it like a whole team of writers?
Like as you said, it was?
Actually no, so it was Jay Carter,
the executive producer of the film.
The only writer.
Yep, he wrote the whole film.
That's what's up.
Yeah.
And then in the, I seen like, you know,
I like to look at the comments and get feedback
about like everybody's role and stuff.
They were, I seen a lot of people were saying like,
so what exactly was the plot?
Like, what was the plot?
I know that, Keara, no, I wanna call them by their names,
their characters.
Jacinda.
Jacinda and Bradley. Yeah, so they owned the agency. Yeah, they by their names, their characters. Jacinda. Jacinda and Bradley.
Bradley.
Yeah, so they owned the agency.
Yeah, they own the agency, Artlife.
And I want to know, how did Scrappy come into play?
How did he come into play with, like, how did he, did he owe him money?
Did JC and Brad owe him money?
So essentially, Lil Scrappy's character, Bones, in the movie, he funded all of Artlife to
make it what it is.
Got it.
So it's this huge conglomerate,
and Bradley and Jacinda are married,
and Jacinda thinks that it was just their success
that made it blow up this big,
not knowing that the whole time it was Scrappy
and his funny money, which funded their whole company.
Is this Scrappy's first acting role?
No, so he's been in a couple other roles,
but this is his first, I would say,
like serious, serious role.
Because he's, you know, typically he's the bad guy.
But what I wanted to do with him in this movie is
I wanted him to be the villain, but very calm.
Because I feel like, you know,
the undertone of being calm, yet also assertive
is a lot more, you know, scary and kind of terrifying.
Is it hard taking notes from networks nowadays?
Are screaming platforms?
Hmm.
Honestly, I can't really speak to it because they really let us cook.
So they let me cook with this.
It was my first one.
And I think they just trusted the cast.
They trusted the crew.
So when we delivered the product to them, they just accepted it as it was.
And I feel like that's what they should do,
like get out the way of the creatives.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Even if you're putting money up,
get out the way of the creatives.
Yeah, I agree.
Because this is our full vision,
like we put our heart into this, you know?
We spent probably a year and a half
just working on this movie, so I'm glad, you know,
they just let us do our thing.
How long did it take to shoot?
You said a year and a half to do the whole movie,
so how long did it take to shoot?
We shot it in 10 days.
The whole movie in 10 days?
The whole movie in 10 days.
So it was just a grind, just 10 days straight.
And then I spent the next, I don't know,
maybe six months editing and building up the score.
Yeah.
How did the writer's strike, I heard you mention it earlier,
how did the writer's strike affect this film?
Was this something that was already in the works
when the writer's strike came into play or? this something that was already in the works when the writer's strike came into play or?
Yeah, so it was in the works, but the tough thing,
I would say the way it affected it would be
just the timeline, because we weren't sure
when we could film it, but also it was like
assembling the crew and trying to figure out
which cast could be involved.
That was a really hard thing with the writer's strike,
but luckily we filmed it in December,
you know, like at the end of the year.
And everybody was kinda like,
all right, I'll do this last joint,
you know, before the end of the year to make it happen.
Who inspired you to do Jibril?
I would say definitely my family, my parents, my brothers.
But in the film world, it's definitely Spike Lee.
That's my favorite director.
And-
Why?
Why is he your favorite? It's my favorite director. And... Why?
Why is he your favorite?
It's just the first time I saw Do The Right Thing, it just blew my mind.
Classic.
Just, you know, being able to, that's my favorite movie of all time.
And just being able to bring people into your world and actually show them what that looks
like is incredible to me.
And I would say, surprisingly enough, what really made me want to become a filmmaker
is Missy Elliott.
So when I was a kid, yeah, when I was a kid seeing her videos, it was the same thing. Surprisingly enough, what really made me want to become a filmmaker is Missy Elliott.
So when I was a kid, yeah, when I was a kid seeing her videos, it was the same thing.
Like my mind was blown.
I'm like, how can people do this?
How can I figure out how to make these things happen?
And yeah, so Missy Elliott is one of my biggest inspirations as well.
So I wonder what's more important for a director, story or visual?
I think it's a mixture of both.
But you know, me as a director and cinematographer, I come from more of a visual background.
But I mean, it's both.
Neither one can be failing,
but if you have a great story,
and the visuals are just okay,
it can still be all right,
but if you have amazing visuals,
story's just all right,
as long as something's good.
But you strive to have both be great.
So what's your favorite film of all time
that you feel like you have the perfect balance
of both those things?
I would say Do the Right Thing.
Do the Right Thing.
Yeah, to me, because it's like so many iconic scenes
and just the imagery of New York and the way he painted it
and the color and lighting, but also, you know,
the deep messages that the film does portray.
Yeah.
It's to me the perfect balance. What about Belly? I love Belly. does portray. Yeah. It's, to me, the perfect balance.
What about Belly?
I love Belly.
Belly's incredible.
Belly's so slept on.
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They say visually they didn't like how dark it looked. I love Cat.
It was one of the most creative movies ever made.
I think Belly deserved Oscars.
Absolutely.
Belly is incredible.
And you can still watch it today
and it stands the test of time.
Absolutely.
Crazy, I was like 10, 11 watching that movie.
Wow.
That in the beginning, that ooh, that club scene.
That was crazy, that's like a music video in itself
and then just the scenes, everything, funds, I love it. Will there be a part two? I
Think there is a part two in the works. I can't speak on it too much
Oh, yeah, I think I think they're trying to cook something up. Yeah, cuz the way it ends is like, okay
What else yeah, because it's a roller coaster throughout the whole movie where you're kind of wondering like what does this get into?
What does this get into and then right when we give you a piece, you know, we kind of snatch it from you.
But yeah, there's definitely a part two in the works.
Okay.
You did something with the Olympics this year too, right?
Yeah, actually.
So I filmed the Olympians that were going to Paris.
So we filmed like the behind the scenes
of their photo shoot and them getting ready to go to Paris.
And surprisingly in a cool way,
they're playing it on like all the Delta flights.
So that was like a goal of mine
that I can check off the list,
actually having something that's playing on Delta flights.
Is it hard to write stories nowadays
when life is so absurd?
Like it feels like life is satire nowadays.
That's a great question, but no, I don't think so.
Because I think there's always something creatively
that you can pull from it, especially with life. So I don't think so, because I think, you know, there's always something, you know, creatively that you can pull from it, especially with life.
So I don't think so at all.
Do you have any dream projects that you, you know, you see in the future?
Any dream collaborations or any, you know, anything you always wanted to do?
Yeah, I mean, I'd love to do something.
With Jamie Foxx, I love Jamie Foxx as an actor, definitely Spike Lee.
And just, you know, like bigger movies, I would say.
Like bigger movies with, you know, larger budgets,
more access, and you know,
us being able to tell our stories.
Yeah.
That's on the way.
I wonder, you know, with directors like yourself,
is it pressure because every single thing you do nowadays
can be magnified, right?
Like, you know, a lot of these people
have the opportunity to grow in the business.
But for you, it's like, oh, Jabril, hate I love you.
Oh, Jess Hilarious in it.
These person in it, I'ma watch.
So they're watching you from the beginning.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, for me, I don't really feel the pressure as much because I disconnect.
So I don't spend time on the internet all day.
And I know people are going to say what they're going to say regardless.
You know, like I've been making films and commercials for 15 years.
So it's like, either you like it or you don't, you know, so I know what I created.
I know what it took to make it, you know, especially with our team.
So I don't really feel the pressure and And I always know where I'm going.
I'm always going to something bigger and greater.
So if you don't like this one, maybe you like the next one.
If you don't like that one,
maybe you like the next one after that.
But if not, you know, I'm not here to please everybody anyway.
So that's all good.
What's your favorite way to tell a story?
Is it through film?
Is it through, you know, I guess the documentary style stuff
like the Olympics?
Like.
I would say my favorite would be film and commercials.
I really like commercials because there's so much intention
and there's so much time spent
for something that's so small.
And you can get really creative with commercials.
So I would say movies and commercials
are definitely my favorite.
Commercials are a lost art.
Yeah, for sure.
Like think about when we was young,
those commercials that used to stand out
that you remember to this day.
Yep, yeah, they don't do it that way anymore.
It's sad, but hopefully we can bring it back.
I remember when Super Bowl commercials were the best.
People used to love those commercials.
Now it's like, nah, I'm tired of the Don commercials.
None of them make sense.
I don't have a greasy duck.
I got dishes I need washed.
Right, facts, facts. It's's like who are writing these commercials?
We need better writers.
It's a couple that I think are cool.
The homie Cal Maddick, he does some cool stuff
for like the LeBron commercials.
But yeah, I agree.
Like they don't go as big as they used to go.
So I mean, I think somehow we need more.
The Gatorade commercials were always big.
Gatorade and Nike back in the day were always.
Good music too.
Facts, facts.
So you went to Georgia State University.
Georgia State, yep.
And I know you told us how you got into film,
but you majored in.
Business, so I got my marketing degree.
Do you still dabble in that?
Marketing and business definitely.
So I always knew that I wanted to do film,
and my brother and I started our company in college. So I already knew that I wanted to do film and my brother and I started
our company in college. So like I already knew what I wanted to do so I didn't want
to go to film school. I just wanted to know how to build my business. So I just took all
those years of college learning business and marketing and I was writing you know my business
plan for my actual company while I was in school. So it was cool like my professors
like make up a you know a mock company and I'll review your business plan and this, this and this. But I was using my actual
company for the professors to review, you know, so yeah, it definitely helped.
And was that your brother, you talk about your brother, is that your brother that played in the
movie as well? Because he's the actor. Okay. And are you an actor as well?
Not at all. I stay behind the camera.
He's always been in You behind the camera. I stay behind the camera. And he's always been in front the camera.
Oh yeah, for sure.
He's a huge personality.
He's a YouTube star.
He does it all.
Oh yeah, that's what's up.
I wonder if business has gotten in the way of the creative.
Because creatives to me are creatives,
business people are business people,
but nowadays creatives are forced to be business people
because so many creat creators be getting got.
That's true.
So you gotta know your business,
but I wonder if the business gets in the way
of just being creative sometimes, having to balance both.
I think so, because it's like, for me, you know,
and all our peers, we wanna control our destiny.
So we wanna own our own businesses, you know,
we wanna have, you know, our foot in the door,
we wanna be a part of the conversations,
but also as a creative, like,
sometimes I wish I could just show up and only do art.
Like, I don't wanna have to handle business
and hop on all these cars and figure out
where the money's going.
It's like, I just wanna show up and create.
So, yeah, I agree.
Okay.
Well, somebody like your brother,
oh, so I'll say, somebody like your brother
is gonna have, be probably such a good actor
because he got you just watching his back.
So you don't have to worry about the business too much.
Yeah, yeah, that is true.
Well, tell them how they can see I Hate I Love You
starring our very own Jess Hilarious.
Yes.
Yeah, so you can see I Hate I Love You
right now out on Peacock.
Please go stream it everywhere.
We put our heart and soul into this.
Absolutely.
You know, shout out Freely Films, Maverick, Eli,
Tedro, my whole family.
Jay Carter.
Jay Carter, of course.
Sean, Tania, everybody.
That's what's up, man.
Was she acting like a diva on that on set?
Nah, just hella cool.
Wasn't I?
She was super cool.
Thank you.
In between the scenes, cracking jokes.
You know, like she was very, very professional.
And even like taking, you know, criticism or like,
maybe let's try it this way
She's like I boom got it. You know not a diva at all. You pregnant when you assume I was pregnant
Today
So you couldn't even smoke you was just man what mad I just but I was like, oh, okay
All right, and I want nobody to know cuz that you know
We tell somebody that they start treating you like you need crutches. You're like, no, I'm good
Like I'm good. No, right. So yeah, I was pregnant in the movie. I just can't see. All right
Well, Jibril films we appreciate you for joining us. I'm sure you'll be back the next movie that comes out
Absolutely. I appreciate you. It's the breakfast local Morning. Wake that ass up. Early in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
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I'm the host of a brand new history podcast
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Executive produced by Questlove, The Story Pirates,
and John Glickman, Historical Records
brings history to life through hip hop.
Flash slam, another one gone.
Bash bam, another one gone.
The cracker, the bat, and another one gone.
A tip but a cap, cause another one gone.
Each episode is about a different,
inspiring figure from history.
Like this one about Claudette Colvin,
a 15 year old girl in Alabama
who refused to give up her seat on the city bus
nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing.
Check it.
-♪ And it began with me, did you know, did you know?
I wouldn't give up my seat
Nine months before Rosa, it was Claudette Colvin.
Get the kids in your life excited about history
by tuning in to Historical Records because
in order to make history, you have to make some noise.
Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your
podcasts.
Hey everyone, this is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Leight Layton and Daphne Zuniga. On July
8th 1992 apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose
Place was introduced to the world. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every
scandal and every single wig removal together. So listen to Still the Place on
the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen
to podcasts.
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Submit your podcast for nomination now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards.
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Hello, my undeadly darlings.
It's Teresa, your resident ghost host.
And do I have a treat for you.
Haunting is crawling out from the shadows,
and it's going to be devilishly good.
We've got chills, thrills,
and stories that'll make you wish the lights stayed on.
So join me, won't you?
Let's dive into the eerie unknown together.
Sleep tight, if you can.
Listen to Haunting on the iHeart radio app,
Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, what's up?
This is Ramses Jha.
And I go by the name Q Ward.
And we'd like you to join us each week
for our show, Civic Cipher.
That's right.
We discuss social issues,
especially those that affect black and brown people,
but in a way that informs and empowers all people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence,
and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace,
and social circle. We're going to learn how to become better allies to each other,
so join us each Saturday for Civic Cipher on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast,
or wherever you get your podcast.