The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Jagged Edge Talk 'All Original Parts, Vol. 1,' Diddy, R&B 'Beef,' Car Accident, Music + Tour & More

Episode Date: February 13, 2025

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Jagged Edge To Discuss  'All Original Parts, Vol. 1,' Diddy, R&B 'Beef,' Car Accident, Music. Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Morning everybody is DJ envy Jess hilarious Charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club laura roses hanging with us today as well And we got some special guests in the building gentlemen Always like to say this this is one of the groups that y'all guys don't break up at all. No, we ain't never broken up. But how? We see every R&B group there's always a breakup, there's always a whole vibe.

All right. All right. How do y'all stay so tight? Man, we like each other. Absolutely. I mean, half the group is us. Absolutely. We love each other.

Right, right, right. A little easier that way. But you brothers is the one that be fighting. No, no, no, no. We be on the. Right, right. A little easier that way. But you and your brothers are the ones that be fighting. Nah, nah, nah. We be on the same page. Absolutely, man. No doubt. I'll find days over with.

You get grown, you don't want to fight. You don't fight no more. Just make money. That's it. And what you never know though. And we never know. And all of y'all still are in Atlanta? Yeah.

All of us. And that's where all of y'all originally from? No, me and him originally from. Connecticut. Connecticut, y'all. ATL. All of us. And that's where all y'all originally from? No, me and him originally from Harvard. Connecticut. Connecticut, y'all. Y'all up here. Yeah, up in the road, yeah. Shout out to Harvard.

Down the street. Let's start, I always like the stuff from the beginning when you guys come here. So how did y'all guys form the group for people that don't know? How did Jagged Edge form? All right, whoever wanna take this. Well, me and my brother was um in the womb

We had this group when we first got to Atlanta, you know, we was about 15 years old. So we we was in another group when we first got to Atlanta. Not when we first got there but when we first started singing. And it was two other guys and we sang at this church picnic. Kyle was at the church picnic. He came to us at the church picnic and said listen man I got a group why don't y'all drop the other two was at the church picnic. He came to us at the church picnic and said, listen man, I got a group. Why don't y'all drop the other two and come get with me. He didn't have a group. He didn't have a group. He didn't have a group.

But we didn't know that though. He was just mad. We used to see Kyle around anyway because me and him was basketball players and his cousin was playing on our team. So we knew each other from that and passing. And then once we actually sat down and talked and we realized he could sing too, we put it together.

It was another member at first and he fizzled out somewhere along the way and we picked up Wingo and you know what I mean, been together ever since. Since we were about 15, we've been in this group. Now, where did the name come from? The name came from, if y'all remember, think back to, I think, I wanna say like 91, 92,

was a group came out of Atlanta called A Few Good Men. They were signed to LaFace. So just the name of their group got me looking at movie titles. And during this time I was, I happened to be at Candy House, right? And she had all these movies, like all these just, you know, rows of movies.

And I started looking at the movies, and when I seen the movie, Jagged Edge, it's almost like it jumped out, like, hey. You know what I mean? And so I said to them, and everybody was like, yeah. Like, now one person pushed back, everybody was like, yeah, that's a dope man. And this was after y'all were already signed to So So Def?

No, this was before. So you had a relationship with. That's it. And this was after y'all were already signed to So So Def? No, this was before. So you had a relationship with Kandi before? Yes. Like what's... Only like a year prior to us signing, yeah. Okay, and what was the relationship? Was it just like music stuff or like how did you... Wingo went to school with Kandi.

They was in high school together. We graduated the same class. So when we did our demo, he took it to Kandi house, just playing it forward, just like, you know, getting her approval. Wasn't even trying to get a deal or nothing. She liked it so much, she was like, she called Wingo one day like,

you still in that group, y'all still, y'all still trying to get a deal? He was like, yeah, so we made the deal with Candy. If you get us a deal, you can manage us. There it is, she got us a deal, so she was our first manager once we signed. Candy was your first manager? Yeah, she was.

Wow, she get to the money in the business side though. How was she as a manager in the early days? I mean, she was getting her feet wet as well. She didn't know how to get her feet wet. But I'll always tell anybody, as far as being an active artist and trying to manage, you know, managing somebody is like having kids.

Right. You know what I mean? You gotta be up for them 530 phone calls and it's just a lot, you know what I mean? And also too, shout out to Tiny too, cause she was just as instrumental. Without Tiny, she was like the direct link to JD on the business side, you know what I mean?

So without her, it wouldn't have happened as well. Shout out to Z-Bo. Did y'all want to sign at Social Def at the time? Was that the goal, like that's where y'all wanted to go? I mean, to be honest, we had a couple deals on the table. It was Rowdy. Mercury. Mercury at the time. Remember Mercury, right? It was Rowdy. Mercury. Mercury at the time, remember Mercury? It was Rowdy, Mercury, and then Social Def came in there

at the end of those offers and I just think, you know, Candy did what she said what she was gonna do. And that meant a lot to us, so we was gonna do what we said we was gonna do. How instrumental was Jermaine Dupree with y'all now? Like, do y'all still call him about music, you know, for all the original parts, volume one, I know. I mean, you know, Jermaine, that's our guy forever.

But, you know, as much as I love Jermaine, I hit Jermaine about all kind of shit, but you know, it's rough to get Jermaine do some shit for me. Right. I'm being honest with you. If he ain't a part of it, you know what I'm saying? I've had a tough time getting his involvement in things

that he wasn't really, you know, spearheading. Honestly, Jermaine is why we are writers and producers, well at least producers, we was always writers. But through dealing with him, we not like, you can't just put us on a back burner. We not, you know what I mean? You can't tie our hands, you can't, so we us on a back burner. We not, you know what I mean? You can't tie our hands, you can't, so we figured out how to go make beats ourselves.

You know what I mean? Learn how to play the keys ourselves, learn how to do this stuff. So he's a big reason why, and I'm not saying in a negative way. Just understanding that it takes more than just one man to stop what we trying to do. You know what I'm saying?

And one thing about us, man, we not petty. You know what I'm saying? You did something for us, we kind of respect the blessings. He took a chance with us, man. He not petty. You know what I'm saying? You did something for us, we kinda respect the blessings. He took a chance with us, man. He took a chance, so we respect the blessing and keep it moving, but we was already a self-contained group. We was already writing, we was already like, what we gonna wear on the show,

so we really didn't need anything but the money, I guess. And the backing, the pushing. A bunch of monies. We didn't need nothing but everything. But other than that, we're self-contained. But much love to JD. That's our family forever. We just know there's a lot of bashing when it comes to it.

Yeah, nah, nah, nah. Yeah, none of that. Yeah, we ain't doing that. And where did y'all leave So So Def? And why? We actually, So So Def left us. Right. You know, he had a situation with Columbia.

They couldn't get on the same page, so he left and went to, what did he go? Atlanta? Aerista. Aerista first, right. So he went to Aerista, and Columbia basically told him, if you want them, you gonna have to pay for a football team. You know what I'm saying?

And Jenny was like, I don't want them that bad. Right. I don't maybe. Right. Yeah, I'm gonna say, yeah.D. was like, I don't want him that bad. I done made me some money. Damn, yeah. Yeah. They wouldn't let him take us and Bowie. So we wanted to go, but wasn't in the cards at the time.

So when y'all left at that time, that's when it completely stopped. He never said, I'm not writing for y'all producing because y'all weren't on the label at that time? No, we got back together with Jermaine two different times. We went to Def Jam with Jermaine, and then we did an album with E together with Jermaine two different times. We went to Def Jam with Jermaine, and then we did an album with E2 with Jermaine. So yeah, I mean, we've, you know, the music game in itself is a complicated business. And I think, you know, keeping your relationships tight

is something that you have to do, but at the same time, if you can't get on the same page with somebody, you have your own goals and your own dreams and that's what you got to follow, you know what I mean? And that's what we did, yeah. Knowing that y'all still got hits like, Let's Get Married and Promise and all that, like how does that feel to know that,

I just saw a video that went viral where somebody had proposed to that girl and they had a little sit on acappella that's getting married. Did y'all see that? What are y'all reactions from that? Other than it being funny and they should have picked somebody else, like a boy like this.

But knowing that that shit still hit like. It's love, man. Yeah, right? I love it. It's an amazing feeling. We talked about this the other day. We definitely didn't get this to be a one hit wonder, and we definitely wanted to have a career

that was filled with longevity. So when you see things like that, you realize you done hit your mark a little bit. But we ain't done though, but yeah, it feels good though. You all celebrated 25 years of the J.E. Heartbreak. Let's get married at this point. What are some stories, because I know you guys have probably been just reminiscing

because it's 25 years since Celebrate, and what are some stories that like we probably never heard in the making of some of the iconic songs, the Let's Get Married, He Can't Love You, like that. Like Brian, you laughing? I was too. It was her. Brian, it's her.

You was close. Me and the crew. One of the others was. How does she feel like, we got so many stories, but it's like how many of them is really suitable for TV? That's the thing, this goes on TV through Tubi though, so it's like digital. Wow, you can say whatever the hell you want on there.

We can cut, cut, cut. Cut, cut, cut. Please cut. Would you guys like me to pour you a drink? Are you comfortable? No, we good. Okay, all right. I saw in an interview, Beyonce dead,

like three y'all off of a tour bus. After two bus. What happened with that? We're not trying to holler at Beyonce. When the bus actually started raining. You know what's so amazing, like when it happened, somebody said to us, y'all gonna be talking about this for the rest of your career.

And they was damn right. Y'all still be talking about it. I know, what happened. So basically, we was on tour with Destiny Child, and at the time, Matthew was our manager, so we was sharing the tour bus. Us and Destiny Child, we all on one tour bus. How big was that bus?

It was huge. 12 bus. And so, I think it's probably well documented that LaToya has had different issues with the crew. This particular night, Latoya's mom was on the road, Miss Pam, shout out Miss Pam. And Miss Pam obviously had issues with the crew. So Matthew called, even though he wasn't in the city,

he called back to the road manager like, Miss Pam ain't getting on that bus. And we was like, well, we not leaving her out in the middle of Louisiana. So she is gonna get on the bus. That dude had the police called on us, had us removed from the bus. So y'all get off the bus.

We all get off the bus. So yeah, I mean, but, you know, we just felt like whatever the issue is, it can't be that serious that you gonna leave somebody out here. Right, and you not even here. And you not even here. It was somebody's mom, man. If it was your mom, you know what I leave somebody out here. Right, and you're not even here. And you're not even here. It was somebody's mom, man.

If it was your mom, you know what I'm saying? We'd have dealt it the same way. Come on, man. Exactly, we deal with it the same way. Hey man, you know, we from, I mean, originally, but we from the South and you know, we mama people. That's the mentality, yeah. You feel what I'm saying?

So we kinda felt that like, man, we mama boys and we had an obligation, but we walking to whoop Matthew. Damn! I was like, I'm not gonna let you. We'll catch you by the bathroom at one of your concerts. We gonna add your ass out. So, shots out to Matthew for not going by that bathroom. So wait.

Cause the story goes, so, cause you were dating Latavi at the time, Brandon, and then, so she told the story on the radio station, she was saying that you stuck up for the group. Like you were the one about to go off, so you was at the bathroom. Well, we all did, but I definitely, I went in the room on the radio station, she was saying that you stuck up for the group, like you were the one about to go off, so you was at the bathroom. Well we all did, but I definitely, I went in the room with the girls. You know, I just seen it, like I said, like, if it was my mother, it would have been worse

than that. Like I would have turned, it would have got nasty and ugly, so I didn't want it to go that far, so I tried to have a conversation with the girls. I couldn't talk to Matthew, he didn't make himself available, that far, so I tried to have a conversation with the girls. I couldn't talk to Matthew, he didn't make himself available. But I tried to make the other girls who was in the group with Latoya, support her. And they all just kinda let me know

that they had different issues with Latoya and her mother, and that's why it was this bad. And even to be fair to them, because I talked to Kelly about this after that, and it got to a point where she even felt like, well, at this point it's out of my hands. Once Matthew took control of it, they didn't feel like they even had much of a say anyway. So, you know what I mean?

It is what it is. I did want to ask too, they used to put pit 112 against you guys, right? Absolutely. And it was a thing, was it ever a beef or was it just always fun? It was Charlemagne did it, man. Charlemagne did it. Char beef or was it just always fun? It was Charlamagne did it, man. Charlamagne did it.

Charlamagne did it. You know what, man? It was never a real beef. Like, I don't know how many people know this, but them guys like brothers, though. Like, out of all the male groups we've been on shows with or just been around or in our era, I should say, 112 was our closest friend. So, yeah, it was never a real beef. But it got a little testy at one point. At what point and what happened?

What was the reason? When we was coming back from a tour we was on, and we was pulling to the city, me and Kyle was together. Y'all kicked him out the bus this time? No. We just heard him on the radio talking some trash, and me and Kyle just made a beeline of where they was at.

I'll take my brains out, ain't brains, I'm not even, what the hell you think you're saying? It was just me and him, we knew all four of us there, we didn't even care. We was ready to do whatever had to be done. What did they say that was that bad? It was a live remote, V103, Ryan Cameron.

Playing in Hollywood. He was playing in Hollywood, so you know how old that is, playing in Hollywood. So they was doing the album, I guess, release. It was their album drive. It was their album drive. It was their album drive. They was doing something.

They was doing something. They was doing something. A live remote. They was subliminally talking. And he said, well, you know, 112 is a... No, he said this, I'll never forget it. I don't know if Ryan Cameron had asked him a question, but Q said something like,

how could Jagged be the best group? They only got two lead singers, a cheerleader, and a rah rah man. And I said, hey, I'm the rah rah guy. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. We mad, man.

That guy went up there on the mission. Nothing happened, nothing happened. You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about?

You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about?

You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? I think Ryan, because they was really trying to put us on tour together. So Ryan was trying to create something to drive the traffic. But you can't do it without telling us. You see what I'm saying? So he was taking a piss

at everything they was doing. We could talk shit back really good. You know what I mean? But y'all wouldn't say that when we was in the room no way. So that's the issue too though. I mean, because I actually, I was the first person to ever seen that group before. You see what I'm saying?

I'm the one turning them on to their management. They had a deal before us. You see what I'm saying? I'm the one turning them on to their management. They had a deal before us. You see what I'm saying? So it's almost like just like Brandon Sting. He was almost in one too. Yeah, like they were gonna try to put me in there for a second, you know what I mean? Again, and this was before I was in Jagged Edge.

You see what I'm saying? So again, like we've known these guys since yay high. But again, so, but like I said, you can't start something without letting us know. And he was like, come on, bro. Like, no. That was that era with the, bro. Like, no. That was that era with the fake beef.

A lot of people was talking about it. We ain't doing that shit, man. That's probably why I ain't tell y'all, because y'all wouldn't have been with that. You right, D. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Say how you are. But y'all are like, as R&B singers,

because I mean, I've seen y'all go crazy, turn up a lot of times. Do y'all feel like, as an R&B singer, you think people take y'all as soft and sometimes you gotta prove yourself? They can take a high one. I see y'all go people fuck around and find out. It's a different situation.

Like they say you fuck around and find out. Your ass gonna get jumped. You hit one of us, your ass getting jumped. But pretty much. That's a lot. But you know, I feel you like, and I talk about this sometimes, you know, like that stigma to me is, no one's played out.

Number two, I don't know them R&B niggas who y'all be talking about. Who is them niggas? Like, I don't know who they are. You know what I'm saying? All we do is I see all get it in. I don't know. I see Miguel go crazy.

Come on, Miguel. Come on, Miguel. He's a martial artist. What you mean, like, fight? Yes. Oh no, he's a martial artist. I see, of course, we know Trey. Come on, definitely.

We know crazy-ass Chris. Come on, man. Every R&B person, they know Trey. Come on, definitely. We know crazy ass Chris. Come on. Every R&B person, they know him. Hey, G, J.M.I.A. J.M.I.A. Listen, pleasure to be here. Everybody you can thank up here. I really know.

Yeah, bro. I don't know them niggas who they be talking about. It's not gonna be no easy win. And what it is, is we're from the same places. Right, right. We grew up around the same. Right. Y'all like, we grew up in the R&B hood.

Literally. We grew up in the R&B hood. Where did this group in the hood come from? Where the R&B hood at? How often do people bring up the Cisco fight? That was the fight. He spared that man. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, You know, we're from Baltimore. So what the fuck happened? I ain't no one. That was in the dressing room messing around. He just put that boy in the hat.

Y'all know Cisco. He went back for the boy's ass. He tried to do some flips in there. We were trying to do something about how you say up top, I had to sun him. What was it about? It wasn't about nothing.

It wasn't about nothing. There wasn't just one messing around. They were getting drunk. Yeah right, and it ended up getting, you know they would put out you play through it. Yeah, yeah. And it ended up, I guess he ended up getting serious. Kyle was just kind of playing.

He said you, wait Kyle was still playing. Yeah, yeah, he was getting, well, well, he was actually, I was chilling. And I ain't finna do all that. That's gonna be nasty, but I know I wasn't the aggressor. But I wasn't with the bullshit either, like I ain't finna do all that. I know I wasn't the aggressor. But I wasn't with the bullshit either. Like chill out. And if you can, it's on the video.

If you can see I'm like yo man, chill out. And he was trying to like, oh man I'm losing this. You're gonna lose this. You know what, he didn't throw that one. I was saying he spared him. He wasn't really doing them dirty. I was like y'all finna have to fuck with the walkout. I left the ass in there by the self.

Both of them. Me. I was like, y'all been having fun for the walk out. I looked at their asses and everybody said, both of you. You know what I'm saying? Me and him was already gone. We been already gone. We doing show, we gone. We gone. We out there. So y'all squashed all y'all, y'all, y'all.

Oh, man, it's the family. It's the family. It's so our name. You know what, you know what, though, Amy? You give me a wedgie, I ain't squashed that. You know what, Amy? Quiet as it's kept, we fuck with all the groups. Some of them have had issues with us. So we fuck with everybody. Right, right. Straight kept, we fucked with all the groups. Some of them have had issues with us,

so we fucked with everybody. Straight up, we fucked with everybody. I got respect for all of them. All of them. Now there was a time where I feel like R&B died out a little bit, right? Now it's back like crazy. Everybody's doing an R&B party, R&B tour.

The biggest parties in every city be the R&B. So during that time when R&B died a little bit, how did you guys survive? Because I seen tours slow down, music slow down for R&B, everybody was saying R&B died a little bit, how did you guys survive? Because I seen tour slow down, music slow down for R&B, everybody was saying R&B died. How did y'all fight through that? None of it did for us. Not our record.

We never had a period where we wasn't booked. You know what I mean? I think that's probably why the music hasn't come as often as it should, because we've been on the road. You know what I mean? So at this point, we kind kinda looking at our career like, would we be happy just touring for the rest of our lives? No, because we creators and we really are musicians,

so that's why we came with this album. And I ain't gonna lie, I never respected it no way. You can't just shut down a whole genre. What's your complaint, what? All R&B sound, don't all hip hop sound, don't all country sound, like what does that mean? That's why it's a genre. Right, exactly, that's exactly what genre means.

Everything that fits gonna be inside that genre. So what is gonna be, what can we expect different from All Original Parts? Like where did that title come from? And just for the record, y'all know, they not bumping this in no trans disco. All original parts. Yo, you stupid.

I don't know who made that up. Oh my God! Y'all gonna have to open this up. That's crazy. I was like, what? And then I was like, oh, insane. They gonna come for y'all. I'm like, what's up with the candles in the jacket? No doubt, that, Jax. I know, yo, my bad. It just signifies the fact that, you know, even not even just our era, since groups have

been a thing, they've all broken up. Right. You know what I mean? The Jacksons broke up. Even them. The Jacksons broke up. Right. all broken up, you know what I mean? Jackson's broken up, they fed them. Jackson's broken up, they fed them. So, you know, us being the one group who's never broken up, we wanted to kind of capitalize on that,

that's why it's called All Original Part. I love that. Do y'all ever get worried that, oh, go ahead. No, no, no, not good. Do you guys ever get worried that, like, trying to top how big your other songs are, like? Nope, nope, nope. I mean, I guess, you know, there's a possibility

that we might not ever have songs bigger than, it's a possible, you know. Music like that ever again. Right. But I just think we don't let it stop the creative process. It's the same for us. Because it just might have. Right.

You never know. And I mean, we was, people are saying like, we 100% responsible for our music. So it's the same chemistry, same guys, same wheels on the car, you know what I'm saying? So we don't look at it, we just go in there and do what we do. And to add to what Brian is saying, I mean, this album, like Brandon Bryan said the other day,

we was at an interview, you can't look at this 11th album, all the original parts like you look at J.E. Harbrick. You feel what I'm saying? Like give yourself a chance to sit down, listen to the song, and just let it flow. You feel what I'm saying? Because certain songs grow on you slow. And before you know it, you be like,

yo, this my shit, right? You know what I'm saying? At first it wasn't, but now, you know what I'm saying? So please don't come up to us talking about this ain't gotta be. It ain't supposed to be. It ain't even gotta be. It already does. If you want to hear that, take your head back.

And go get that out. Stream that. Do you remember when y'all made some of those classic records and do y'all know they were gonna be smashes as soon as you made it? Like when you made Let's Get Married, when you made Promise, did y'all know like, oh this is gonna be it?

We did, kinda, I ain't gonna lie. We did. And even when you look at songs like He Can't Love You, right, every song we ever put out, we understood what it should be doing. Like we understood the only reason to drop He Can't Before Let's Get Married was because He Came sounded like nothing on the radio at the time.

We knew Let's Get Married was going to be the biggest song, but we knew if you come with a song like this, it sounds like nothing. It's going to make that role for Let's Get Married even bigger and easier. You know what I'm saying? It did. It did what it needed to do. We kind of have been. You know Let's Get Married is going to be that legacy song that when y'all going, your kids

going, your kids' kids going, when y'all going your kids going your kids kids going This man was mad that we dropped he came love you That's why I never put my pain on a record like that again, You know what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day, I knew He Can't Love You was super dope. It was a smash, but let's get married. And I'm, you know, again, I'm one of them anxious guys. You know what I mean? Let me tell you something.

It's the setup, it's about the setup. Right. Now we'll never go broke because of Let's Get Married. Let's get married. Oh yeah, let's get married. All crazy to the most high, my brother. How old were y'all during those songs? What was that time?

18. See, right up here, we was writing those songs, 18, 19 years old. He can't love you at 18. Some of those we was even 17. Listen, so we talked about stuff, one of the reasons we went that route is because what preceded us was what?

Joe, see freaking you are Kelly, Bobbie, Gryde, Freak Me. That was, it was so prevalent that that was the thing. We were like, how do we, we don't wanna just fit in with the album. How do we cut through that, even though we weren't saying that back then. But better.

It's more so a lot of that was sex, you know what I mean? Y'all was on some grown mansion. Y'all were young, like babies. And Promise, Brandon, you wrote that for Batavia, huh? No, not for me. I wrote it for me. Wrote it for you all. She texted me, it was different.

I mean. He said, I wrote it for me. Because I it was different. He said wrote it for me. I've been feeling this question since she did that interview. Listen, we're a team song, we're a songwriting team. So no matter what my piece of the song may be about, that don't mean the whole song is about that. You know what I'm saying? Because I think when you're a songwriter,

it's not always an exact story. Sometimes it's pieces of a story that you're turning into one story. So yeah, there was a piece in there about LaTavia, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, but my part wasn't, no. But I love Tavi though, but I'm gonna say my part wasn't about that.

I was gonna ask you, do y'all have a problem? I feel like nowadays, brothers don't beg for the vagina Girls don't make them Back then, you know, you had to lead up and just like, you know it's gonna take about an hour and a half. You had to work for it. You was like hell pressed to not let it go.

So it's a lot different now, man. How does that affect the right now? Because now nobody's begging for nothing no more. Right. I mean. You know where the county go, man. See you next week. I mean with us, you know, we trying to like, even on one of our last independent releases,

we had a song called, I forgot what it was called, but we talked about, they talked about how, you know, love ain't cool no more. Our goal is to try to make it cool again. Without you a simp, if you love too much, you'll stay cool with your simp. To me that's, how can you love somebody, make you a simp, like, that thought is some simp shit, if you love too much, you a stanko, you a simp. To me, how can you love somebody make you a simp? That thought is some simp shit if you ask me.

That don't make no sense to me. That's where we still coming from. We was coming from then, and we still coming from that same point of view. I think that's, you know, it's too much homeboy love out there, man. It's all good to have you a crew. Homeboy love, like, too many young niggas

trying to kick it with their homeboy. That's right. That's all they to have your crew. Homeboy love. Homeboy love. Too many young niggas wanna kick it with their homies. That's right. That's all they loyalty is a pad. Their music be about the guys loving their homies more than they being about the guys loving on the win. I mean, I'm not consistent with nothing but the barber point. I think all that's necessary, you need your team, right?

That's a necessary thing, but you don't wanna put too much attention there and then your girl feelin' some type of way. I mean, what you're sitting, I ain't not a clicker off, but what you're sitting in but you sitting in the club, VIP section full of niggas. Full of girls who like back in the day used to be. You see like everything because like sometimes I see them talking and you're like man I'm gonna kill these niggas when I hit the streets and then we used to be like I'm gonna kill

them all. That's right. That's right. It's totally different. I already know. And that how y'all used to dress back in the day. They used to dress like them. You know what I'm saying?

When you think of like an R&B group, you know, it's nice and you know, suits and all that. Silk shirts. You see the top of me coming out the top. These niggas used to dress like they about to shoot a dice game. And they'd go. Like some Thug Love type stuff. They about to shoot a dice game. And they know. And we want to. We want to do a dice game.

Right, like some Thug Love type stuff. I used to love seeing them on my offensive video. It was like, all right. Now you got into a car accident, we broke your neck. Yeah, man. Break that down. What happened? I broke that down after you said, come on, Andy.

Break that down. Cheers to comedians. Cheers to girls. I'm sorry, buddy. I'm sorry. Well, I was in two car accidents inside of nine months. Damn. The first one, I just broke my leg in two places.

I had some wrist contusions and a knot on my head. And then the second one. What happened in the car? Did you fall asleep or did they cut you off? I was coming down the street, right? You know how in Atlanta we got all those, you know, do a U-turn to turn, right? So I'm coming this way.

It was a car sitting right here, and I'm knowing he see me, I see him. And as I get this close, then he wants to turn. So even though I stopped my brakes as hard as I could, I still hit him. He was at fault. Like I said, just towed my car up, towed me up. But the next one was really, that's what really messed me up.

My- Got jackknifed. No, T to call it T-bone. T-bone. T-bone. T-bone, right. When somebody's right in the middle of your car. I was sitting at a light on that accident, I'm sitting at a light,

and I hear these shots ring out. And next thing you know, I guess the person who got hit, he lost control of his vehicle and he just swirled right into my vehicle. On the driver's side, his side. I broke my neck. I had five broken ribs on this side, one on this side. I got a scalp laceration right here.

It was a lot with that one. I know it was pretty emotional for us. I saw you on Tamra Hall when you talked about it and you got emotional. For the rest of you guys, right here, it was a lot with that one. I know it was pretty emotional for us, I saw you on Tamra Hall when you talked about it and you got emotional, for the rest of you guys, when y'all heard about the second car accident, what were you guys' reactions and what was that like for y'all as well?

I was scared, because I didn't know what to expect. Me too. You know what I'm saying? And I'm gonna keep it real, I don't have my license, but don't worry about that. This man ain't never had a license. Yeah man, that's a car. I've seen him in a couple of cars.

They drive on that car, they never had a license. They pull it over a hundred times. Don't drive like this. But I mean, my wife was like, once I heard it, I'm like, baby, I gotta get out of here. I'm damn near falling down the steps to get in my Uber. And, but in my mind, I'm just praying. I'm like, Lord, please don't come.

I mean, it's such a cliche, like I say, to hear about artists playing accident, motorcycle accident, car wreck. So I'm like, and then it's like, this is the second one? You know, and so we got up there. When I got there, because I know the other guys are showing up, I seen them and I'm like, okay, okay, he's not what?

It's still him. It's still him because he want to take his neck brace off. You know, I'm gonna take this shit off. I said, well, my nigga good. He cried a couple of jokes, but I got this. I'm like, what's up with him? He was in pain though. And like for me, it was the worst day couple of jokes, I got this. I'm like, well, he's good. He was in pain though. And like for me, it was the worst day of my life,

I ain't gonna lie to you, because the way I heard the call, somebody told me, first they told me he got shot, because they heard the gunshots. They said he got shot, then he got hit. So, you know, this my guy, you know what I mean? Like, whew. Yeah.

You know what I mean? I can't talk about it either, but I can get it. Yeah, rock and roll. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Man, what? We'll talk. We'll talk.

I'm trying to tell you, bro. And for me, I mean, you know, again, I'm gonna always say this, man. A family that prays together stays together. You know what I mean? So I immediately just dropped on my knees, man, and sent one up, you know what I mean? God fixed this.

You know what I'm saying? That's all. Leave it in your hands. All right, so I'll praise you the most Leave it in your hands. And he did it. And he did it. The guy that got shot, did he make it or? Man, I don't know. Yeah.

What kept you during your healing process? Like what? My girl, my kid. Yeah. No. Yeah. I ain't gonna lie, they took care of me. Absolutely. Good.

Everything. When I first got to the house, it's all good, man. Yeah, it's all good. Yeah, it's all good. Yeah. Been a hell of a year, man. Yeah, most definitely. Definitely. For real, for real, for all of it.

Definitely. Yeah. So serious, because when you hear breaking neck, you just like, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro. It, yeah. Yeah, yeah, bro. Yeah, yeah. And like I said, when I got there,

one thing about him, he was trying to be in the best spirit still. Yeah, still. It was hard, but he was trying, you know what I'm saying? So that got me too, just seeing how strong he really is. Right, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Do you look at life differently as a group and just people because it has to change the way you look and the way you move. Absolutely. The way you say goodbye to your girl and your wife and your kids. It has to change all of that. For all of us.

You just never know when it's that time and they know how it was, man. Let me tell you something, man. We so blessed to be here. You gotta think, like 15, we met each other at 15. You know, we had our little fights and gripes, but we understood the mission, and that's to stay together first.

Well, keep God first, stay together first again after that. And we love what we do, but we love each other. And we knew our mission was, like you said a lot, a song back then, R&B was a little soft. It was still a good song, but still it was kinda soft. And then you had some that was kinda freaky. And so we definitely came up with the concept to where we wanna speak on the behalf of brothers like DJ Enby,

Jagged Edge, who wear Timbos, who wear Jordans. You know what I'm saying, we just not throwing them in the soup. And be more relatable, man. And be more relatable about, hey, I'm hurt, you hurt me, baby, and we need to talk about this. You know what I'm saying? Or, you know, I promise to stay there with you,

although you may be going, I wanna learn what I need to do better, so we knew that the message was more powerful coming from something real, instead of something that the label or the audience kinda expect. But it's a little deeper than that. Music has a message behind it.

I'm super glad of the route we took, man. We never wanted to exclude anybody from our music, or you know what I mean, like a school, this certain sale to this certain block, or this certain type music, or you know what I mean, like a school, this certain sale to this certain, our block or this certain type of people, you know what I mean? One thing about we all have a common is we have loved somebody or wanted to love somebody,

you know what I mean? And that's a universal language for us, you know what I mean, love. So that's what we're gonna promote. And I always want to know how humble, y'all always stay so humble, right? Been in this industry a long time, and every time I see y'all or you see your fans,

you guys always smile, you always take pictures, you always shake hands and you don't see that a lot. What put that into you? Cause like I said, I know you guys a long time and you guys treated me the same when I was on radio, just doing mixtapes, whatever it was. And y'all don't know, but I used to tell people y'all my cousin.

You know what I'm saying? You know what I used to tell people you're my cousin I Somebody said to me yeah that y'all actually could because because you are you from up top to North you from up there just saying like it ain't a lot of y'all up top like that front door of the club talking about, you don't know me, I'm Jackie and that's crazy. Look, look, look. Look, look, look. Look, look, look. Look, look, look. That's real crazy. That's real crazy. You saying that. That's real crazy.

That's real crazy. Nobody ever was like, I'm gonna sing then. I'm not talking about a song. Oh my God. Envy, that's really crazy to admit, I'll tell you. I know. Like, really crazy. But that's really, really important to us, our fans, man.

Right. We do recognize that that's one of the main reasons we're still here as well, our fans, yeah. And you know what else, Tuto? That's part of the reason for us, for our image being what it is. We felt like the acts that came before us was almost like this fairy tale, untouchable thing.

We never wanted that. We just spoke regular niggas and sang, you know what I'm saying? That's all we wanted to be. We wanna look like us. You know what I'm saying? So I know y'all chose. We wanted to look like us. You know what I'm saying? So I know y'all chose the songs that you made because you said you wanted to cut through,

but how did you choose who you worked with in the song? It's already four y'all, y'all are all lit together, but y'all were very particular about who you featured on songs and who you worked with. How did y'all, at 18, 19, choose that? A lot of times it was Jermaine who chose that. But when it wasn't, you know, even back then in our early wasn't, you know, even back then

in our early 20s, teenage years, we sit down at a table like a boardroom. And we have ideas and we toss them around and you know, some don't make it, some do. But we very intentional about the things that we're doing. So we sit down and we discuss it. Y'all got a favorite song on the album? Yeah.

It changed every day to me. Mine is the single, I'ma keep it real. I'm sorry, I made a good job. Cheeseburger. No, it's it. That's what I'm doing. Y'all got a favorite song on the album? Yeah. It changed every day to me. Mine is the single, I'ma keep it real. I'm sorry, I made a good job just now. Cheeseburger. No, it's fine. Cheeseburger. Cheeseburger with cheese. You're the guy who loved the singles

as they're going here. I mean, but yeah. He's like that on every album. He loves the album. We call him cheeseburger with cheese. And y'all already know we're balladeers from the heart. You know what I mean? But so anytime we get a, man, we get a bop.

Come on, man. That's it, man. Like that's a bop, man. So what is the? Oh, just might get it. Be careful what you wish for, cause you just might get it. Okay.

Come on now. I think for me right now, it's forever love. Forever love for me right now. Okay. For me, I'ma go with She Said What She Said. She Said What She Said. Somebody just text me and say they can't get past that. She Said What She Said.

It's gon' grab you. It's one of those songs like if you ain't ready, you gon' be crying, you don't know why. We had somebody crying yesterday when we was playing it. It ain't no day. It ain't no day. Who was crying, who was crying? I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying yesterday when we were playing it. There ain't no days. There ain't no days. Who was crying, who was crying? I'm not crying.

I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying.

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I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I up loud enough, I'm not loyal to what's favored because I mean,

we was playing the album the other day. You're a song whore. He didn't switch like anything. I'm a song whore. He's a song whore. I got you. You're a red red. I'm a red red.

I don't see any song on that. Wait, he's a red red, he's a song whore now. I don't know. I don't know. My bad, Lord, what you say? Oh, special guest on the tour, like y'all bringing anybody out, anybody popping out? All of us on this one.

But it's a couple things been offered to us we just haven't necessarily accepted. So we'll see. Into Me Evening with Jagged Edge. Absolutely, that's the whole point of it. And we plan on doing that throughout the spring. We'll probably take out a bigger tour later, mid-summertime, something like that.

But this is just to celebrate the 25 years of J.E. Heartbreak and just us still being here, you know what I mean? And honestly, you know, this idea was kind of live, it was kind of live nation's idea, and we just kind of filled it in, and we thought, yeah, that would be dope, so like you said, it's only a few, it's about nine dates on that tour, right?

And then when that's over, we probably out for the rest of the summer. Absolutely. I got some songs that people love that I don't know y'all gonna be able to do on the tour or not. Like the Nasty Girl, the Trade It All. No, no, see. No, no, there you go.

I just know, I got songs and if I come, I just need to know, like, is that a thing? I love all music now. You took the words right out of my mouth, but it's the next thing I was gonna say, like we pay attention to our fans. I mean, we've had people hold up signs like with remedy on it.

We actually got cussed out one time overseas. A dude was shooting a bird at us in the audience for the entire show. There ain't no shooting a bird at us. There ain't no shooting a bird at us? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not saying like that up here. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

He was giving us a finger the entire show. So of course, you know, we gonna go out and- Not the entire show. I mean, well, you know- It felt like the whole show to you. We met you at one, I mean, we seen it, verbatim. So we went out in the crowd, and after the show was not, and we seemed to have approached you.

That's what was up. And we was like, hey man, what's going on? Like, you know, we shooting us a, giving us a finger the entire show. It was like, cause y'all are my favorite song, man. And it was for the rest of my life. You know what I'm saying? He said, I know the way y'all was running through those numbers, y'all, y'all my favorite song. And it was for the rest of my life. You know what I'm saying? He said, I know the way y'all was running through those numbers, y'all weren't going

to do my song. And we was like, what's your song? He was like, rest of my life. We don't even do that song. But now we've added that in the show. We've got like a lot of, a bunch of new records in the show. Along with what we are playing. But that's not what she was alluding to.

And I know what she was alluding to. Let me say this to her. I'm asking the question because I think, you know, people, I know for me, if I come out into midnight with you guys, I do want to hear, Trade It All is my song, Nasty Girl is my song. Let me just say this too, right? Because we just had this conversation last night, right?

With each other? No, with another, with a radio station. Diddy, that's my brother, that's our brother. We've had a good relationship. I can't speak on nobody else's. Diddy, that's my brother, that's our brother. We've had a good relationship with him. I can't speak on nobody else's, it ain't my business. But at the end of that, I can only deal with my interactions with the man. And I'm talking about plenty of them.

After being around him 30, 40 times, I never seen nothing that offended me. He's never offended me. He always made sure if we was in his space, we felt welcome. And like I said, all the other things that other people talk, they can have that. No, I had an uncle went to jail for 11 years.

Let me shout out my Uncle Larry. I had an uncle went to jail for 11 years and he was always still just my Uncle Larry. Then changed to the point where he's some different guy because he did some messed up stuff. He's still my Uncle Larry. And it's the same with Diddy to me. At this point, I don't know if he's innocent,

if he's guilty, but that's my brother. And that's all I can say about him. Pray for him, man. Pray for him. Pray for him. Damn right. But I do wanna ask, trade it all. Were y'all surprised he called y'all

and not him? And not 112? Not 112. Listen, I'm 112, I'm pissed the fuck off. And it's crazy because really, we got more songs with him than they do. We got like three, four songs with him. You know what I'm a 1-12, I'm pissed the fuck off. Listen, and it's crazy because really, we got more songs with him than they do. We got like three, four songs with them.

You know what I'm saying? That's why he said the cheerleading and the rah rah shit. Because he's mad. He's mad about that. That's all. Hey, G-U, they're from the G-U. Hey, get to the bottom of it. We don't even know.

The album, definitely pick it up right now. And we appreciate you guys for joining us. Thank you all for having us. Let's get into a you guys. Man, thank y'all for having us. Let's get into a joint off the album, which y'all want to hear. Just might get it. Video out on Friday. When the tour start? March 26th.

March 26th in Dallas. Ladies and gentlemen, there you have it. It is Jagged Edge. It's the Breakfast Club. Yeah. Wake that ass up. Early in the morning's the Breakfast Club. Yeah, here we go. Chill. Wake that ass up early in the morning. The Breakfast Club.