The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Jake Steinfeld Talks Body by Jake Radio, Governor Rumors, Real Discipline Vs. Performative Wellness

Episode Date: May 25, 2026

Today on The Breakfast CLub, Jake Steinfeld Talks Body by Jake Radio, Governor Rumors, Real Discipline Vs. Performative Wellness. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And I got my guy, man. He just launched Body by Jake Radio in partnership with IHeartMedia. Jake Stinefeld is here. What's up, my brother? Man, Sholomey, how are you doing? I am blessed black and highly favorite. How are you? I love it, man.

Great to see you. Great to see you. Hey, hey. You met Lauren before? Lauren, yeah. A few times for sure. Lauren, how you doing? You look great.

Thank you. I'm blessed. Looking very snappy. Oh, thank you. Today was my dress down day, but I'll take it. No, you know, looking great. Jake is just lying to you to make you feel better about yourself. That's what he does.

You know what I'm saying? He provides inspiration to people. Okay. You can tell you need. You're talking to him about the hairline. You encouraged him to let it go. I'm just going to let him go. Jake's been selling motivation for decades.

He knows what to say to give. you going, okay? Can you? Does let me have it? How are you and your family, Jay? Everybody great, man. You know, we're rebuilding the house, which is great. You lost your house in the fires. In the Palisades fire, you know, it's been a year and a half already, man. Believe it or not.

You know, it's one of those things where, you know, we all have experienced loss and especially, you know, everybody watches the news and you see a catastrophe happening every minute of every day, and you watch a fire or something happened that's terrible. And then

you know, you go, man, that's so bad. Hey, honey, what do you want to get for dinner? Right? You know what I mean? But when you're, you know, one of the people that were affected by something, if you went to the Palisades or Altadena today, it still looks like the apocalypse, man. I mean, it's like a place frozen in time. Things are starting to come around, but, you know, it's going to be a long time. But you've got to persevere.

You know, we talk about this. It's everybody deals with loss. and you have two choices. You could roll up in a ball and die, or you persevere, or you get up and you persevere. And you just say, no matter what you're going to try to do to knock me down, that's not going to work. And this is your forever home, right?

He was there for 30 years, right? Yeah, 31 years. All four kids grown up there. You know, you have your daughters. And think about all the little handprints and report cards and all those things like that. Forget about the memorabilia and all of it. But all the stuff with the kids,

It's crazy to see, you know, your home melted to the ground. It's a very surreal look. But like we talked about this, you know, a year and a half ago, something happened to me at that moment. It was like, you know, we're also defined by material things. And when it all goes away, you've got to look in a mirror and you've got to have that conversation with yourself, what are you really made of?

You know, not about the watches or the Ferraris and all that kind of stuff like that that just literally melted. But who are you? And it was like a born-again moment for me, man. I'm a pretty pumped-up guy anyway, but there was like electricity running through my body. And I felt this sense of lightness.

And, you know, it hasn't subsided and it continues to be there. There's a sense of clarity. And I don't save anything anymore, man. You know, if I get something, I just throw it away. I mean, material things I really don't care about. It's amazing. It's been a pretty big change, but a good one.

And I know that that moment, you know, kind of inspires you to flirt with running for governor of California. Yeah, well, you know, our friend Brian Kilmey, man, Fox and Friends, you know, one of those moments that were day two after the house burned, you know, the police and National Guard there. We couldn't get up to see our property, but bad actors can get up there. And someone posted a picture of my burnt-down house. And I have two sons who live here, you know, in the city. And I have a daughter who lives in London. And they saw the picture online. And, you know, news agencies are calling and say, hey, we want to do an interview.

I said, I kid, how do you do an interview? We're living in a hotel. I mean, we literally, we had no close. You know, your wife says to you, honey, I got. nothing to wear tonight. I mean, we literally had nothing to wear. We had our shirt and our pants and, you know, the underwear I was wearing and that was it because my assumption was I'm coming back in the morning. And my friend Brian Kilme called from Fox and Friends. I've been doing that show since 99. And he said, hey, would you come on? And I said, you know, Brian, okay. And I'll never forget it.

They got me at quarter to four at the morning, LA time was a quarter to seven here, you know. I'm on at 420, which is 720 prime time, and got into the little studio, put the IFB in my ear, and Bryce starts railing on Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass, and I said, look, you know, I don't know these people. I'm sure they're nice people in person, but unfortunately, they're playing checkers, and this is chess. I said, I came to California, man. I was born in Brooklyn, New York, because there was a dream that was California. and I achieved that dream more than I could ever have dreamed possible. And there's nowhere else on the planet that I could have achieved

what I achieved other than being in California. And unfortunately, you know, my house burned down. And metaphorically, California's burning. And then bride goes like this. He says, hey, you should think about running for governor. And I said, you know, I'm not saying no. Now, he could have said, you should think about playing for the Knicks. And I would have said, I'm not saying no.

Because I still got the jump shot, you know. And I didn't think anything of it. And the interview was over. Hey, great. Good to see you, Brian. And I pulled the IFB out of my ear. And I walked past the control room, the four or five guys there's early in the morning. And they're clapping.

And I go, hey, thanks, guys. I've seen these guys for years. And I always leave my phone in a car. And I got in a car and I got about 150 texts saying, are you serious about running for governor? I go, what's going on? And from that moment, I really started to think because I'm all about change. And, you know, I'm not about red or blue. I'm about the red, white and blue.

I'm about bringing people together. I've been putting fitness centers in elementary and middle schools, as you know, for the past 14 years. I stood next to 48 or 50 governors. I served along with Schwarzenegger, you know, in California, Jerry Brown. And, you know, my life is bringing people together. So I traveled up and down the state, met with lots of people. sat with this business roundtable up in Sacramento, met a lot of people. You know, I actually had like, you know, binders of like, I kind of looked like I knew what I was doing here.

You start looking at policy and, you know, you just read the headlines and hear about things and everybody's always making a comment. That guy's a moron. She's an idiot. But when you really start to dig in, there's just so much, so many. things, so many challenges. And when I went up to meet with these people, I just said, I'm on a listening tour, because I want to listen to what you guys are thinking about. Because you are all the pros, you know, whether it's insurance or education or oil and gas or housing, you name it. There were 24 people in this room. I said, if there was one thing that you could change and you had the power

to change, what would it be? And they each gave a comment and I said, what's stopping you from doing it? And to a T, every single one of them were talking about, well, the unions and the environmental groups. And it was like, wow. And then they had made a mention to me, boy, Jake, you know, your personality is a lot like Schwarzenegger, you know, man, you're a breath of fresh air if you think about doing this. but you know Arnold got his back broken because, you know, the unions broke his back. And instead of fighting him, he wanted to be their friends. And I thought to myself, well, that's what I would want to do. You know, I'm not looking to fight with people. Everyone's fighting everywhere.

Most people get along. That's the thing that I found. Most of us all get along. I always talk about like the playground we were growing up. up. There's always one kid who's picking his nose. There was always one kid who's beating some other guy up picking on a kid who's weaker than him. That's like in life. And you say to yourself, how do you really go make change? And that's by bringing people together. And I really found the fact, once you get the ego out of it, right? And I have a wife and four kids. And I just

thought, you know what, for me to go do this now, especially with the climate the way it is. And I built my brand Bodyed by Jake since I'm 19. You know, and it's been pretty good. You know, and in 72 hours, I could be done. You know,

people making stuff up, saying things, you know, and then I got to stand up and no, that's not what I do. You know, and things start to unravel. And I just felt, for me, the best thing is to do what I do. And what that meant was

I love helping people, and I like providing hope, and I've always done it through fitness and motivation. I was an overweight kid, you know, I had a bad stutter growing up. My dad bought me a set of weights at 13 years old. It changed my life. And, you know, not only did the weights build my body, but it built my confidence and self-esteem. And I've been blessed. I was the first got to do personal fitness training and made it an occupation that trained all these big Hollywood stars and learned an amazing lesson that they're no different than us. The only difference is they had a dream. And they never took no for an answer.

So you're not running for governor. Not running for governor. So let's talk about the Body by Jake Radio, right? So what type of, I mean, you got so much experience. We just heard a lot of it. What is the, like the, what's your niche? Like, what is the content going to give people to it? I mean, the essence of it is this.

My wife and I, I live in a Century City, California now. So, you know, we're like in a city. And, you know, in L.A., you're in a car pretty much all day long. Anyway, I'm in a car even longer. And I'm driving a lot. And I'm looking for something to kind of listen to. I love late 70s, 80s, and 90s music. And I was looking for something that was kind of quiet.

Or just I can, to cool my brain down, man. You know, this is mental health month, right? You know, the most underutilized. anti-depressant is exercise, right? If you're mad or sad or angry or stress, just move your body. Because when you're moving your body, you know, the endorphins start popping.

You stand up a little bit straighter, right? You get that smile back. That's up with spiral of success. And there was nothing on the dial that I found that had just encompassed some motivating tips or things like that. And Ted Turner, who just passed away, was my mentor. He was a guy he put me on TV in 1981.

I did the fitness break, man. Wow. The fitness break on cable news network, which ran four times a day in the States and about 10, 12 times an hour around the world. And it was me with two models on a beach in Malibu, and I was able to parlay that into videos and television shows. And I had a dream to create a television network and went back to Ted. Remember headline news, right? The one-hour wheel that they used to do. I used that platform to launch a fitness television network.

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You're not feeling great about yourself. Change is rough and change is tough. But, you know, when you get the right motivation and the right inspiration and the right tools, that's when change can happen. So I thought, what if we created a platform where there were these nuggets of mental health tips, wellness tips, longevity tips, longevity tips, nutrition tips. all wrapped in great music. 24 hours a day, seven days a week where I wake you up in the morning and we put you to bed at night. And the overnight kind of programming, if you will, is more relaxation. It's more kind of calming music and things like that.

And, you know, Charlotte, look, I've been doing your show for a bunch. You've always talked about I heart, man, and here I am. And it's amazing to be part of this family. I'm day four into it, man. And the response has been tremendous. And I'm sure your audience knows they all have the IHart Radio app. It's free. Just search Body by Jake Radio and do a little preset on it and check it out.

You know, Jake, you've been selling motivation for decades, right? Like way before people on the internet, social media, made everybody a fake life coach guru, fitness, wellness expert. What's the biggest difference between real discipline and performative wellness? Well, that's, you know, it's a great question. I think it's about being authentic. I really do. You know, I see a lot of this stuff.

I think the reason why I did come back in this way is because I just get concerned for people. You know, when people are in a weak state and they're not feeling great about themselves, they'll, they'll cross the desert trying to find water, right? Because someone told them to. and I get very bothered by that, man. And I take it, and I take it personally. Look, I'm an entrepreneur. So, you know, if you have an opportunity and you have an idea

and you want to go kick ass out there, go and do it. But do it right. Do it straight. You know, there's a lot of people out there who need help, who want help. Today, all these GLP ones, right? People are losing weight, which is awesome, man. I used to do shows looking at the camera. I did 17 years on Home Shopping Network.

I look at the camera and I'd say, there's no magic pill, you know? Now it's a magic pill. Today there's a magic pill, right? But what happens is it's moderation. You've got to do all of this in moderation. And people are losing the weight, and they're wanting to start exercising,

which is really terrific. But a lot of people take advantage of people like this. A lot of people try to take advantage of people in a weekend state. And that's why I thought with an opportunity and a proposition and a position like I have here with IHeart and Universal Music

with Body by Jake Radio, we do it for free. And we give you these tips and they're simple. They're life tips, you know, that you can incorporate into your lifestyle that just get you on the road. It's about that first step. It's about you getting up and taking a step.

You take that step forward, you take two steps forward, and then three and four and five, and then you start to say to yourself, if I did that, what else could I do with my day? What else could I do with my life? And that's how it all starts. So it's authentic because you can't buy authentic and you can't buy trust. And that's what I've always felt that, you know, I mean, I've been around a long time. So, you know, I've seen a lot of people come and go and you just got to be straight. when you think about this magic pill you know, O-ZMPIC area,

do you think people still want transformation or they want the shortcuts? Do you think they're really willing to put that work in? Unfortunately, I agree with what you're saying, man. I think that most humans look for the shortcut. Everybody want to get paid, but nobody want to work, you know? And it's just, I think it's human nature.

And there's a lot of people built that way. And look, is boring, man. And exercise is hard. You know, I'm, I'm whacked out of my mind. I'm in a gym at 4.15 in the morning because that's what I do. You know, it's a 42-minute workout. And I bang iron around for 42 minutes. That's my drug. That's my medicine. And I do a cardio-muscular workout together. I visualize what I have to do during the day so the reps go away. And when I'm done, my head is right and I'm ready to go. But what I tried to propose or put out to people is everybody is very different.

And what works, you know, for you is not going to work for me. Find something that works for you to fit into your lifestyle, to fit into your game plan, not somebody else's program jamming into your life. Because it'll never work that way. What's the balance between, because now people want mental health and they also want physical health, right? Is there a real healthy balance between the two that makes a person feel? feel better? Yeah, that's a great question.

I think when you're exercising, you know, when you're feeling, because exercise, you know, gets those endorphins working, and your mental health is your, you're just feel better. When your body is moving, you know, all the joints are working. And as simple as taking a walk, you know, if you're feeling stressed out, it changes your whole mindset it really does and i know you guys have millions of listeners millions of people millions of fans who watch you who listen to every word you all say and i think it's just imperative for this moment because life is about moments to take this moment and to think that

and kind of reload restart you know you went to bed last night maybe not feeling so great you know you went to bed last night saying i got to figure something out my life is not not right. My life is not working right. And I want to make a change. And for some reason, oh, you tune into the show every morning now, and here I am. And this could be the moment, you know, because life is about moments. I feel like Body by Jake Radio is more about mental health than physical. It feels like it's more about mental survival than... 100%. Yeah. This is not an exercise. Listen, if you want to, I want you to be listening to this when you're on a train coming in the morning,

if you're in your car, walking a dog, sitting in the house, all these zoomies, you know, who at home by themselves, you know, on Zoom calls nine hours a day by themselves. Put Body by Jake Radio on. It's great music. And the little nuggets are just kind of speckled around, man, you know, four or five times an hour.

And it's like, you know, you know, I just saw a sitting here a hall a couple weeks ago. He's my guy. He's the greatest. And his book is terrific, by the way, man. And, you know, you should do a show that little segment he did the things that make you go, remember that? That's what I took from every one of the nuggets.

I just want you to go, huh, oh, yeah, I could fit this. Oh, hey, I didn't know that. You know? And that's just what that is. So if you want to go work out to this, You can, but if you just want to listen to Body by Jake Radio, that's really what it's all about. But it's going to get your body and your mind moving like you were saying because mental health and physical health are combined, right?

Because when you have them both, man, you're working at full, full speed, full, full tilt. Listen, you now have the Body by Jake Radio app on the IHeart radio app. It is launched. It's ready to go. It provides motivation at every level of the day. It gives listeners energy to conquer the morning, keeps them going through the afternoon and into the evening. You heard Jake say it's a diverse mix of music and specialty programming

and, you know, just jewels to help you get through the day, man. I love it, jewels to help you get through the day. That's right. And you guys are great. You know, I'm just taking off of what you're doing, man. Shaw, you've done a great job. You continue to do a great job. Thank you, brother.

Expanding the empire. Thank you, sir. What's next? movies yeah absolutely producing or producing of course yeah yeah you've introduced me to a couple of great people well yeah we got well that's

sure man you know that's that that's exciting man I think that that's really amazing you know I walk the halls here at Iheart now you know these last few days and if if I had two dollars every time someone

mentions Charlemagne's name it's like Well, you know what Charlemagne. Well, you know what? Charlemagne does it. Well, that's the format. It's Charlemagne's like, man. Well, they're good to me up here.

Well, you know what? It's really unbelievable, man. You know, they said it. You know, Bob Pittman said it. John Zellner said it. You know, Joe said the same thing. You know, once you become part of his family, a lot of things open up. True.

And it's true. I see it early. And I've been doing, like I said, what I've been doing for a long time, dealt with a lot of corporations. And it's, I've been. I've never felt this kind of warmth, but to see what you guys have done with the publishing and just how you've really intertwined your brand,

because that's really what works. What do you think the key is for you and your brand to become as successful as you become? Well, if you're just talking straight media, keeping the main thing, the main thing, which is radio. Like radio with the foundation that all those other houses are built on. If radio was a tree, all the other stuff would be fruit.

The books and even the podcast thing and, you know, the production companies, all of that is just fruit off the foundation and the tree of radio. So the foundation is this radio show. Absolutely. 100%. And everything comes off of that.

Absolutely. So if you were to recommend to an entrepreneur at home who's, who's, you know, who listens to you guys all the time, you know, who's saying, man, you know, I got to be the next Charlemagne. What do you, what do you say? I mean, no, no, you're right. Because there's already one Charlemagne.

Be who you are, right? But what is the recommendation in the world we live in today of how this person gets started? Find a purpose. You know what I mean? Like your purpose, I think nowadays everybody's purpose is, you know, just to make money or everybody's purposes. Oh, I just want to be seen or get the most followers.

Like, no, what is your actual true purpose? What is your true intention? you know, why are you doing what it is, you know, you're doing? Or why do you want to do these things? Like, if you got to, like, this body by Jake radio is purpose driven. Yes. What we do at Black Effect is purpose driven. Like, what is your actual purpose?

Find your purpose and, you know. Now, Black Effect has been, you just had the fifth anniversary. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So you're going to the top of the sixth. Yeah. Top of the sixth. And what are we looking forward to?

Just the evolution of podcasting in general. Like, when you look at, like, what, screaming platforms are doing like you know the partnerships we have with with Netflix and there's a lot of other screaming platforms that's going to get in that game as well so just you know showing people how to do the audio part of it which is the podcasting but then also expanding to the video side which is the podcasting but also taking those podcast creators and creating other forms of content with them because like those are the new stars those are the new people that's that's moving things so they're

the ones that need to be in those television starring in those television vehicles and those movie vehicles and hosting the reality shows and game shows and stuff like that. But the essence is have a purpose. You got to have a purpose. Got to have a purpose. And you got to have that tree. So for that person, it's the first seed. That's right.

And the first seed is the purpose. That's right. And like for you is your brand. Body by Jake. So now you've created an extension of that, which is Body by Jake Radio. That's it. That's right. That's exactly right.

I just turn into you interview and me, Jake. Well, you know. I'm sitting here watching it too. I was enjoying it. I was enjoying it. My guy, man. Make sure you all support Body by Jake Radio. Always a pleasure to see you, Jay.

Hey, man. It's so great. Thank you. Absolutely. You guys are the best. Lord, great to see you. Yes, good to see you. It's Jake Steinfeld.

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