The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Jarrell 'Big Baby' Miller On Toupee Incident, Failed Drug Test; Anthony Joshua, Hardships +More

Episode Date: February 2, 2026

Today on The Breakfast Club, Jarrell 'Big Baby' Miller On Toupee Incident, Failed Drug Test; Anthony Joshua, Hardships. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee om...nystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:16 You all you get your podcast. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Just hilarious. Shalameen the guy. We are the breakfast club. We got a special guest in the building. He just won this week in the Madison Square Garden. He's 27
Starting point is 00:02:35 and won two draws. Ladies and gentlemen from Brooklyn, New York. He has his Tim's on today. You know it. Gerald, Big Big Baby Miller. Welcome, brother. What's so? What are you thinking? What the hell are you thinking? Congratulations. Congratulations. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations. I'm watching the fight live. I'm literally watching. I'm watching the fight live. And as I'm watching, I'm like, man, I must be high. This edible kicking in because it looked like big baby head is moving. I was crazy. I was high, too.
Starting point is 00:03:07 I don't know what I was thinking, but I said, fuck it. Excuse me, I got to roll with it because, man, I always had here. You know, I'm trying to say it was breaking normal. And I'm bringing on my mom, too. I kind of felt bad about that. I said, you know what?
Starting point is 00:03:19 I'm just going to roll with it. So anyway, I always had here. But, you know, it didn't put enhancements, all that stuff in there. I'm like, I was a spanish spot. Cuba's in Miami. Man, shh, shh, shh, left it in there and went to training,
Starting point is 00:03:31 wash my hair out. Half my hair fell out. And I said, okay, I ain't ready to go bald yet. Can't pull a shoulder man just yet. I said, you know what? You got a nice head for a ball. Yeah, you just. Like you had.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Oh, let me bless your head. When I first saw the piece come off, I was like, oh, damn, you could have just came like that. You know what it was? I wasn't ready to do it just yet. I'm like, you know what if it do fall off in the ring? I'm like, man, that might be a good thing. I said, man, it can be 50-50.
Starting point is 00:03:56 So I went to my boy I went to my boy Had to we had to win after that And so funny I was getting my ass Before that point I didn't go lie to you I feel like
Starting point is 00:04:05 My trailer He woping your ass I'm like really You're not turning up I said to the hair pieces Oh yeah We definitely got a win this I can't go back
Starting point is 00:04:11 To the block with my head Looking like this I'm gonna get my ass So did they glue it on Like what if what? What's they didn't sew it to a scalp envy I don't know I glued it on
Starting point is 00:04:20 It was flapping It was flapping My man said he put the tape Plus he hit me with the roller Like shh I thought he was painting in a wall like he put the glue and the tape on it he says it's gonna be double reinforce me i thought we were gonna be all right but man my boy abiza was knocking me aside of the head boy
Starting point is 00:04:34 is that get sanctioned by boxes is that legal what you mean yeah so you want you want to do you want you got come you like want to take it off yeah i was under there yeah i do it though because i you know I got you. I got you. Now, don't, give me no jabs and not. Hey! You got to George Jefferson, so why can't you take on the... Honestly, I was saving the Fiat, bro.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Big baby. Let's go grow back a little bit. That's not going back, my, though. Big baby. I need you to grow up. Come, man. Listen, listen, what are you doing? It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:05:05 It's so funny. I'm just some real quick. My son will go this morning, he says, Daddy, can't see head? I'm like, for what? It's ugly. He's like, I like it. And he laid on my head. four years old so I was like you know what I can't three more days in number five so is that real
Starting point is 00:05:17 hair that is real here that's real here this one's my real here watch the fight this one was under the win I did but I didn't know though the whole thing was glued on to one of one of the other like I really have here so it was just at that moment in the time I'm like man I don't want to go in there with a bowl yet so I slapped me go slap the piece on you got the perfect head for the ball yo yo I'm co-signing it you got go ahead give you permission to ball it out I'm with the bowie please do you fight your barbba now whoever glued that on do you go give him five minutes like he's never giving me a cut before. He usually gives him my cousin a cut. So I'm going to call my cousin and you know, bro, I ain't ready to go bald yet. He's like, yo, my man got the piece.
Starting point is 00:05:50 He's his name. I think he was in my comments. He left me a comment. He was like, I didn't do that. Yeah, my cousin, he could park in the car. So he's going to probably come over and tell you up. I was like, yo, for real, he got the unity. He's like, yeah, yeah. He's got up. Slap it over. Because I walked in me down as bad happening. Slap bro. I was like, yo, this shit looked kind of fire. No, it did. How much he charged you for that, big baby? Man, like 700 last minute.
Starting point is 00:06:12 You got to get $6.50 back. Let him keep 50 for label. Let me ask you question. When the hairpiece came off, did it hurt more than any points you took that night? It's so funny because I didn't realize it came more, but I felt a draft. I felt like I had like an indoor AC moment. I'm like, nah, I don't think it happened. But I'm sitting there.
Starting point is 00:06:30 I'm sitting there. My coach is giving me instructions, but he stutter twice. And that's what he never stuttered. He looked up like this, like his eyes said, da-da-da-da-da-da. I said, oh, shit. I said, no, if this is really what it came up, I'm gonna look at the Jumbotron, because the Jumbotron, I had to replay.
Starting point is 00:06:46 So when I went like this, ridiculous. And I said, oh, shit, they got me. I said, what are we going to wrong with it? Let's go, baby. And I got up. I tossed it in the crowd. I said, it's time to get back to work.
Starting point is 00:06:57 So I know what was it. Did you feel more exposed when the hair left or when the camera zoomed in? Like, when you saw it on the Jumbo, you're like, oh. Yeah, the minute I seen on the Jumbotron, I was like, oh yeah, we fried. We cooked in this one, so Mazzar, we gotta win this fight now. Does it bother you that people know you more for the hairpiece than the actual boxing?
Starting point is 00:07:14 You know what is? For years ago, you know, when I met Sean Man, a few years ago, they knew me for boxing, you know what I mean? I'm not a little bit. And I was, um, I'm always been a funny guy. You know, I'm always going to make fun of myself. You know, DJ Self is like, my God, brother, you know what I mean? So you know, you know, dealing with him and you got, you can't be, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:30 you got to know how to roll with the punches. He was the first one. Self had one, too. Self had one. He was the first one. J. Self had one. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Come on, man. I know. I know. I know, but see, but like, being from, I guess being from New York, even being from New Jersey, New York, we all grew up just cutting on each other. So if you can't take somebody cutting on you, that's what it made me good in boxing. Like, I could roast you and be crack a body to wrong. You know what I'm trying to say?
Starting point is 00:07:53 So I've always been able to roast myself. That's why it's all for people to get at me in school. Because I was always fighting, too. So anyway, I beat all my bullies. I have to be bullied me. But that always made me tough skin. And God made me this way the way I am right now. I thank God for that.
Starting point is 00:08:06 You know what I mean? Because I can laugh it off. Plus, like I said, man, I can still. I can still take your girl with his hair. Let me ask you. I don't want to ask him because he didn't answer it. Is the hairpiece regulation approved by the boxing commission? You know what?
Starting point is 00:08:15 It's not regulated or approved per se, but I know you go pre-fighting inspections and they check you for your body parts and make sure anything is good or whatever. And I was like, yo, I was thinking about what if he canceled the fight because I got this piece on? I was like, ah, you ain't going to know. And he tested real quick and he kept the movement. I was like, ah, we're good. Let's go. We're going to run out.
Starting point is 00:08:32 What happened is you check your head. What happens is you check your scalp? They did squeeze your head. Make sure you got no fractures in your jaw and up. And of course, they don't really want like long hair with things, you know, whipping in the ear and all that. So he just touched my scalp. So should fighters start listing hair pieces with mouthguards and cups during
Starting point is 00:08:47 Inspector Cs? Man, I think it's definitely going to be a thing now because I definitely brought light to it, you know, so I hope I ain't, you know, heard it for nobody else, but damn. And I'm gonna be honest, which I, you look in much better shape today than you did in the ring to me. Yeah. I knew you was 317, but I'm just like, you actually look fit. You didn't look fit sadly. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:09:05 I feel like what happened? I gotta get like a bigger, a bigger cup. Anytime I get like that kind of cup and like it pushes my butt. But like I'm pretty solid, man. Like I'm not like a 317 sloppy guy, but I don't know, man. Maybe I had a cheeseburger and put some more muscle up. Listen, the commentators was playing you throughout the whole fight because they kept saying, this is such a sloppy fight.
Starting point is 00:09:25 And I'm like, what they really wanted to say was this is a fat fight. You know what I mean? And then when the head came off, they was like, oh, you know, he won by a hair, this and that. But you do look in much better shape now. Yeah, you know what it is? I'm going to say something, man. If you watch my last photo, Annie Ruiz, you know, I won that fight. He gave me a drawing out of fight in his hometown.
Starting point is 00:09:39 And I'm a very fast guy on my feet. I throw a lot of punches, 70, 80 punches around. But the year and a half layoff is what really hurt me in this fight. You know, and I'm fighting a guy that's my height, 280, X football player. I didn't even damn Nigerians. They're so damn strong. Like I said, I'm going to be fine. I get him, bro.
Starting point is 00:09:55 He was ready for me. Anybody know they're fighting baby, they come prepared. So, you know, I had about 28, 29 days notice to really get ready for this fight. So it was not my hundred of my best. So thank God I got the win. We back to work, you know. He got a cauliflower wall. He punched him up in the air a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:10:09 My ass rolled up. We got to get that stitched up. So like I said, the main thing was get the win. You know, we got some other rivalry, be back on the map, get back in the gym and back to focus back to the ground. Do you feel like you missed your moment because, you know, you were supposed to be the guy who fought Anthony Joshua's first fight here in America. Correct. Andrew Ruiz ended up winning that fight. You did beat Andrew Ruiz.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Do you feel like you missed your star making moment? I mean, you know what? I beat myself many times over the years because of that. You know what I mean? It's so funny. One of my boys guy. So, you know, he was doing 18 years in the joint. And he said, bro, you need commit no crime.
Starting point is 00:10:42 You can kill nobody. It's like, it's like you lost your, go make it re-up again. You go back to the block and start over. Because what happened is, you know, I beat myself because of social media and other people. But in life, I know that I'm in a better business to somebody else. So I got another day to make it, another day to make it happen. Like I said, I pray to God, stay grounded and stay focused. And yes, I did have missed the opportunity, but I'm still alive.
Starting point is 00:11:04 You know, I'm trying to say, like, there's plenty of superstars and stars that had to be born and restart over 30. You know, Mike went to jail on that situation he had years ago. Mom and Harley had to go to Canada and stay away from his career for two or three years. And I'm trying to say, you know what? Maybe this is my time to recent figure things out. You know, I went through a divorce after that. I lost my mansion in Jersey, got rid of a couple cars.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Like, I went through the gutter. But I really figured out at that time, like, you know, my public sister, Alvina, she's been with me from the beginning. So it's like a lot of people have been riding with me when I had nothing again. They around right now. So we're going to get to the top. Because you had tested positive for the performance enhancer, right? Man, let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:11:42 A $15 penis pill from the A-Rab store was in the- Shut the phone. I swear to God, on everything I love, bro. Let me take some. Maybe you're doing anything. I mean, I'm trying to. I told them. Yo. That what it was.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Before he said, I took this. He got to notice shortly. He said, I took them. They can't hear you. You got a gas station pill? Yeah. So, hold on. To the mic.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Use the mic. He's very humble, and I've been with him 16 years. He told them prior to the fight, I got the confirmation. I did take this. I just want you all to know. I took this. It was like zero point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point in his blood. That Vata came after with that, which we understand.
Starting point is 00:12:32 But he has not lied. He is not a liar. as you can say he is very humble and kind. He's lovable. He was not a liar, and that is what happened. Lease he said it. I wouldn't have said it. That's embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:12:43 But as you can see, this is Big Baby, and that's why he's an inspiration because of his transparency. Thank you. What the hell did you need penis pills for? You was only in your 20s. You were trying to tear something up. You were trying to tear something up.
Starting point is 00:12:56 So, let me say something, man. So, you know, we had a couple of things in the town, and we was running wild. I said, yo, it's right before Camp, by the start. I said, me, go get one in real quick. well, about four in, really. But, you know, when that A-Rab spark at the black ant, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:08 the black ant was pretty crazy back in. It was before the honey pack was really, you know, pick it up. Man, I'll pop to them. That's the one. The rhinoceros was on the, on the thing? No, no, that's the rhino, 1,000 you're talking about. We're talking about the black ant.
Starting point is 00:13:19 The black ant, okay. The black ant don't give you headaches. The white ain't, now. That's going to, you ready to rock and row. You know, I'm trying to say, you have to stay. You get hydrated with that. Yeah, I mean, what happened, bro?
Starting point is 00:13:32 Listen, man, like, like I said, It's so funny because we sign contracts now with these drugtism companies where we can't bash them and stuff now. It's so funny they say that. But the thing is now, why would you just do that? Because they made a lot of mess ups before for other fighters in the past. And fighters are getting suing them now. You know what I mean? And the main person who started Vada, name was Victor Conti.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And he was the biggest dope doctor in all the MLB health football pitch. So it's a lot of shady gray area with these drug testing companies, right? And let me tell you something. The level of what they find in my system was like 0.00001. of a nanogram. You know what a nanogram is? It's like a point gram of a gram. Like it's just, I'm in your, man,
Starting point is 00:14:08 who the hell can't test for this? How can I know this even in my system? We go to party in New York all the time and go hang out. Somebody can touch your drink and you rub your nose. It's something in your system. So it's a lot of stuff of BS and I lost a lot of money. You wasn't even supposed to be getting no cheeks
Starting point is 00:14:21 before the fight. He said before training camp. He said before training camp. I don't know, I go like a week before a fight, man. I need some, I need some booty, bro. I ain't go lie. I'm going to lie. That sounds crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need any. So I want to go back. You got another question about this? Some cho-cha. How did you get into boxing, being from Brooklyn? What got you into kickboxing? Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:14:40 I actually was paying titty to tell the truth. It's so funny because I was in Canada for almost two years. And, you know, just came back to Brooklyn. You know, my mom said, we're in Queens. And I said, I live in Queens. You know, we had a bicycle on the back, fix the bicycle. I'm like, I'm back home. I'm riding a bike.
Starting point is 00:14:55 But I has a Canadian mentality, you know, all about it. A, they really kind of laid back. Nice guy now. I left my bike outside when and went and got a beach. You've paddy cocoa bread, my bike was gone. I was like, yo, not even home for it. I was in Roselle. Oh, they would take yours.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Roselle took my bike. And I'm like, damn, I ain't been home. I'm not even an hour when they took my bike. And the switches went off back in my head. I'm like, I got to get gutter again. This is not it. Man, so funny, a few hours later, I went to the other side of the town, which is Valley Stream,
Starting point is 00:15:19 which is predominantly Caucasian. Long Island. Yeah, you know what I mean? So I'm like, a bunch of kids outside and leave his bike outside. I got a GT with the pegs on that. I said, yeah, I'm about to take this. I jump on this bike and I took off
Starting point is 00:15:29 going back to my side of the hood I saw I'm riding on a bike it's a lady in a window and she was hanging up a tart and her titty's like hanging on the window and I stop I look up and I'm like godly
Starting point is 00:15:40 she looked down at me she told me to come in I'm like coming in silence she's like yeah so I come in so I'm like I'm about to see what's up with this and I'm only like 14 at the time
Starting point is 00:15:48 she said hey what do you live I said I live in roses across the town she's like hey later on we're having a kickboxing event you want to come back I let you win you check it out I might have no problem, cool.
Starting point is 00:15:58 So I jumped back on a stoning bike. Wait a minute now. Did she have her shirt off when you went up there? She had like a tank top and it was all perking and stuff. It was actually Coach Kate. You know what I mean? She's, you know what I mean? Still remember that.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Still remember that. I remember all that shit. You know, I mean, Coach Kayman, she kind of saved my life back then. You know what I mean? So, row back to Roselle, drop the bike in front of cram around. I said to my mom. I'm like, Mom, I want to go see his kickboxing fight. She's like, what?
Starting point is 00:16:19 I'm like, people who have to go fight. I want to see. She's like, nah, I'm going to stay in the house again. My, please, please. He's like, okay, go. Just don't get in no trouble. Not knowing I just stole his damn bike. So jump back on a bike other side of town.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Now back to Valley Stream now, it was actually a gym. I didn't realize they had like a, like a gate in the front, but she opened up the gate now. It's a whole gym. Now I'm like, holy crap. It was empty before, but the whole gym is packed now. So the first fight I ever seen live was actually my boy, and he's NYPD now.
Starting point is 00:16:45 He must have been like 65 pounds soaking wet, and wet Trinidad and a kid, Cooley. And he was for another one of my boys named, Omar and he's still fighting now he's from Egypt he's about 110 pounds of time and the smaller guy and he beats the brakes off Omar and I'm like yo if he can do this I know I can do this and I beg my mom for like too just signed me up no me you couldn't pay for like I got for three months but the seafood which like master in Thailand said yo listen man this kid can fight and I'm gonna leave him in the gym and I never left since that man I stayed every day after school
Starting point is 00:17:14 cleaned up I bought video games for other kids me in the gym playing video games out of the school and that was like my haven't How did you get the boxing? So I always knew I was going to box, right? I was a troublemaker. From six years old, I was going to boxing. I didn't know how I was going to box, you know. Mike Tyson was fighting, what's the name, Riddick?
Starting point is 00:17:31 Razor Ruddick. And I remember, you know, Mike was knocking him out or whatever. And the next morning I woke up. No, no, they didn't have a fault. No, no, I'm going to beat him up, whatever. And I'm like, yo, everybody's watching the fight the next morning. Everybody will party Saturday night, record on VCH at VHS, and watch it on Sunday morning. So I wake up, like, everybody watches fight again.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I'm like, Mike beat some up. Everybody, whatever, whatever. So I'm like, always that attention I might have to the TV screen. I wanted that. I'm going to be on. I didn't know how I was going to boxing. That's how it's going to happen. So kickboxing became first of my life, and I became number one in the country for that.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Phone K1, phone girl, of course, rural Croatia, Japan, Germany, you know, beat the Lithuanian champ. But I was a troublemaker, too. I don't like people who's disrespecting me. I don't mind taking orders, but you're not going to talk with no kind of. away and one of my girlfriends to this day name was Terrence, a little T. He was like, yo, mop the floor. I'm like, I'm not mopping jack shit. And me and him and I'm scrapping a little bit. Mop the floor
Starting point is 00:18:27 with you, nigga. Yeah, show. He was something like envy size back then, man. It was easy work. It was easy work. But anyway, I'll say short, I get suspended because in the gym, he's the high scenario. So I was to listen to him. And he kicked me out for like two weeks on suspension, but not two weeks. I went to Gleasins. So every day I'll take the train from Queens all the way to Brooklyn. This is a train to learn boxing. And that was a happened. I saw me make my transit in the box and I'm like my hands got so much better. I went back on foot for many years man trying to make bread.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Was blip did it in? Huh? Blimp was still there. Blimp. Harry Kite was my original trainer, boxing coach. That was that was in there heavy too. Yeah, Zab was in there too. I took Zab called me. I said, yo, what the hell did you do to your head? I said, I'm joining the club, bro. Will you self, uh, bodyguard, uh, security? In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband, Mike was on his laptop. What was on his screen
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Starting point is 00:23:11 Yeah, one time? No, that's animal. I know animal, but I've seen you around. So I was like, I wonder if he was during that time. No, I was always around that time, but I was never security per se. But if anybody ever mess yourself, I'm going to be there regardless. You know what, Big Baby, you, you, you, I have a theory, right? The nicest, happiest people, the most fun-loving people are the ones that will really hurt you.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Yeah. It's the guys that I call tough and angry. Like, yeah, I ain't even worried about you. But it's the fun-loving guys that can really hurt you. That's right. You know why? Because we've seen so much already. You know, like, I've seen my boys.
Starting point is 00:23:43 executed a gunpoint. You know, I've seen dead bodies before. You know what I mean? And that's why I try to change my life because I've seen what happened to my cousins. I've seen an uncle get 18 years. I see him. My other homeboy got two is my brother got deported to Jamaica for attempted murder. So, you know, my diverse and background in the Caribbean is big. You know, my mother's Belize in. My father's Haitian, Dominican. My great grandmother is Jamaican. My father that did raise me in Jamaican. So being around that, you know, Caribbean, we high head. And I've seen what one second can change your horn's high life. And I tried my best to like you know what if I blow up I try to bring it back down you know it because
Starting point is 00:24:17 that one second change your whole life and you know boxing like I said boxing is my outlet and that's what I'm trying to do now is help the kids you know start to find I got a foundation last couple years now to help kids just bring them out just bring them out of the inner city just bring out to camp for a weekend you know so that's my goal to buy five 10 acres in florida you know we got donations ready to go for that and um there's been a whole training facility man bringing kids out there even the pros come out and train with the kids man because that's what motivates me you know I train the cops and kids in Brooklyn here in Flatbush and every day I come I see little kids that was like me bad as hell but they talk so
Starting point is 00:24:50 much smack I'm like I want to beat this little kid up but it motivate me because I'm like it's not it's not hate it's love you little big baby you out of shape man what's so we spar and I'm like no I don't want to spar you little kid 14 might be massive for everybody so it's the motivation love about being my kids the energy and I got three kids on my own and I love it man I love I know things got real dark for you after you tested positive for the dick pill yeah yeah how do you're like that. I mean, he said he was. It was. It was. It was supposed to be a big deal. Him and Anthony Jocelyn. How did you mentally and emotionally come out of that situation?
Starting point is 00:25:20 I heard you say you lost your house and other things. How did you mentally and emotionally get out that spin? Oh, man. Really? Man, man. I was God, man. I would really say, man. I mean, I've always believed in God, but my deeper fate really just like, you know what? It's so funny because I went back the streets for a little while. You know, I was selling, selling weed and stuff. And I remember my cousin sent me a couple of them things, man. And I was driving through the city with him in the car. This is before we got legal. What's this back in like? 2020.
Starting point is 00:25:45 So, you know, you're getting caught with a couple pounds on you, man. It's going to be, you're going to do some time for that. But, you know, I was driving back through the city. No, no suspended license. Tag on the bends was expired. I had temp tag on the bends and all that. And I drive the same route every day. But for some reason, this day when I got this shit in my car,
Starting point is 00:26:04 it's going to be spot check. And I say, yo, God, you got to be kidding me. And I said, if they pull me over this is because of my temp tags alone, I'm gonna get pulled over. They're gonna check me, you know what? And I said, you know what, God? I'm like, you know what? You get me through this?
Starting point is 00:26:16 I'm gonna start over from scratch and just build me from the ground up. And so enough, so enough, I rolled the windows down, I put the barmali on. I had a polo shirt off. I put the ball to the neck. I put the barmaul. I said, if we're gonna go out, we go out of style. And I pulled up. And the captain had a white shirt, looked in the car.
Starting point is 00:26:31 He said, and let me go through the spot check. And I told myself, I said, I'm done. I'm done. I'll take all this crap, man. So I'm done with this stuff, man. ever since I started from ground up man just oh training doing privates you know did a couple of training sessions you know sold a couple of my toys and this was this man just lay low man sold the crib lit off of that bread for a little bit and just kind of rebuild myself man I want to
Starting point is 00:26:52 put things in perspective for people that was 2019 uh Jared Miller was supposed to fight anthony joshua I think they say your purse was between 6.5 and 10 million you're supposed to get because anthony josh was huge boxed star never fought in America yeah I was a big deal I was going to smash me and my purse was eight five for that then I had a guarantee rematch at 17.5. Oh my god. You know what I mean? So you didn't none of it. I ain't getting none of that you know I mean I was going to I was going to I was going I was I was training my ass I was trying to all my life for that you know but like I said you know Andy Ruiz is a good friend of mine's Andy capitalized over that you know he was in a tough spot too at the time and he made it for his family you know he's the first Mexican American heavyweight champ ever you know and
Starting point is 00:27:34 you know my dad said something to me you know he's very special. spiritual, you know, Haitians, very spiritual, and sprinkle some shit on your ass, but my dad just said, he was like, you know what, son, you don't know what his family did for his, for him to get there. You don't know what his ancestors did for him to get to that point in life. So it's not your time, it's not your time. But you guys stay on the ground.
Starting point is 00:27:54 And ever since then, man, six years later, I've been pushing, working, working, work and working, working, figuring things out, dealing with management. You know, even before this fight, there's a lot going on before this fight, man. It was so much going on. Not with so much of the promotional company, but my old promoter, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:10 Slita, what's his name? Steve, Dimitlita, he's a con artist, bro. Just always trying to find ways that put himself in between fighters and getting in their money, you know, because fighting is easy. It's very easy. Fighters not hard, you know.
Starting point is 00:28:23 We win, you go to the next level, you're building a name for itself, you go to the next level. There's always people in between that trying to rob the fires, whether be promoters or managers. And he's not a kind of person that he knows that I'm moving away from him
Starting point is 00:28:34 for last, been moving away from him, but he's been constantly taking money for under the table. and I find out about it. So I sue you one time but there's lawsuits that kind of halt your career. So I already sat down
Starting point is 00:28:43 for a year already. I'm like, listen, let's make a deal. We made it deal. Then I found out he's doing it again. That's what made me listen to Floyd over my own promotional company. When you have a own promotional company,
Starting point is 00:28:52 there's certain records and contracts you've got to see now. When you're just a fighter, your independent contractor. Like, you're a show time. I'm the fighter. Here's a promoter. The promoter only going to tell me
Starting point is 00:29:02 is a million dollars on the table where the network is giving him 10 million. So he got $9 million in the pocket. But now I'm in a promotional level now. I got to see all that paperwork now. You know what I'm trying to say? And when I did that, he couldn't have hide things from me. And even to this moment, a week before this fight, I got a contract
Starting point is 00:29:16 in my luck. We don't got no contract. The contract had been over. I had to file bankruptcy in this behind last minute, man. I should have been locked me up. No, 200K, 600K here. I mean, but it's hard, man. It's hard. Boxing is a tough game. Like I said, music and hip-hop artists, yes, sometimes that I don't get your rights, but people can still know your face because you came up
Starting point is 00:29:33 with a hit, right? Boxing, man, that money done, bro. Now you punch drunk, you messed up, you're damaged, you can't do nothing, you can't work a regular job, probably got CTE or something, you know what I mean? You can't, you're a warrior, it's hard for you to even be civilized regular people like you'd be sitting in the club. Even when the selfish, self was like, oh, why are you so angry sometimes? Sitting here, I'm like, bro, I'm just aggravated a dumpsh, I'm going to go home because
Starting point is 00:29:54 you always in fight mode. It's like your mind always in fight mode. So you've got to know, to constantly be aware, your inner emotions. Like, you know what? I had enough of this. These guys are drinking and smoking. Time for me to walk out. But some guys don't know how to do that, and they always getting the nonsense.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Who roasted you worse after this last fight? Boxing fans or barbers? I don't think it's so funny. My original barbers is in Rosedale too. And they called me and they say, what? They just laughed at them. They didn't really owe me that bad.
Starting point is 00:30:24 I'm thinking regular fans, though. I think every, I think every Ha-ha Davis got me. Tony Barker got me. Valentin from, what's the name, got me. Man, I think in the 50-cent post sign up. I mean, everybody's roasting me all right. You should pull up to all of them
Starting point is 00:30:39 and act like you're gonna fight them. Just scare the ish out of me. Oh, yeah. The only one I probably watch out for a 50, because 50 got a hands, boy. I know for, I know, honey. I still beat a 50 though. I love 50.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Why you can't be mad at nobody because in your hairpiece was glued on that? How do you mad at everybody because your hair piece wouldn't glued on time? You know, you know, 50 didn't make a new character for power for me.
Starting point is 00:30:56 You know, like a big, like a big crack head or something with the piece. Oh, yeah. You know, it's called. Or like a hidden hitman. Like, I'm a special hitman that 50 call, like just pop up. I don't know, you know.
Starting point is 00:31:08 50 so you're going to go, basically, a big hood, I like that's a big deal. You know, black in the hood. When they put black, that's your name. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Harry black. Harry black. He took the video down. He didn't want to buy you down. I'm going to tell you some. I'm going to tell you so. I'm going to say, he gets dead threats from other people.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I was like, that's so funny. My cousins is gross to them. But it's so funny, right? Because I told him, I said, oh, bro, do not post me up on your
Starting point is 00:31:33 Instagram. He didn't post up that he put the unit on. He didn't personally give me a cut, and the cut came out dope. But I told him, I said, bro, don't post the video of it. Because in the back of my mind, I felt like it was going to come off, right? But I'm trying to save him. I'm like, of course, in the next morning before the fight, he posted it up with me.
Starting point is 00:31:50 I told him my cousin, I'm like, I told him don't post a video. And they're sown up, and they said, if you're cucking him over, and people tagging the morning, he'd take it off. My man, straight deleted that. Go, straight delete it. I'm trying to find a dude. I can't find him. I'm trying to think that was the real ball.
Starting point is 00:32:03 But everybody was wondering, no. Why you're getting all dolled up and spiffy for a fight anyway? Let me. I'm going to say something about boxes, man. Well, most of us, I feel like for me, it's like, you never know what's going to happen. You could die in this motherfucker. You know what I'm trying to say? So for us, my mentality is I'm going to war.
Starting point is 00:32:20 So I'm going to look good. And I'm going to smell, look good. Now I don't feel, right, feel. You know what I mean? So you always get a haircut. You're going to be on TV. You know what I mean? You put on a show with entertainment at the day.
Starting point is 00:32:29 But this is one job you can actually dying, for real, for real. So when I go in there, we always don't look good. and feel good. You know what I mean? It's an aura thing. You know what I mean? So the whole thing was, I went in looking good.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Came out looking fucked up? That's the crazy thing. If you had died in your wig came on. Oh, my goodness. What? That's the last memory. Now we don't know whether to bury
Starting point is 00:32:48 you with a headpiece on. How do you want to be buried? Slat the wig back all, bro. Slap it back on. Do you think this moment humanized you or turned you into a Halloween costume? What you mean? My humanized me, per se.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Like this humanized you. Relatable, man. Oh, yeah. 100% 100% You know, I'm a box I can't make no big ass
Starting point is 00:33:07 words, bro so I mean I'm playing I'm playing son of I know I know but now most definitely I think for sure because if people
Starting point is 00:33:13 that knew me from before always thought it was always a bully because that's how I got my name in boxing I'm a bully I walk there's no one that never ever
Starting point is 00:33:20 ever talk smack to me in boxing never like I was the most avoided guy back then before AJS he took the leap to fight me you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:33:25 so now it was kind of like you know big people I always thought you was a bully but you mad cool you mad chill I'm like you know
Starting point is 00:33:30 I'm a little older now, so it's like, you know what? We got to just be who we are, man. Have fun. That kind of mentality was good at that moment, but networks now were so scared of some of that because they don't know how fighters react. You know, even with the fight that happened with the team in the MSG the night before,
Starting point is 00:33:48 I don't want to say the team name because that's my people. Devin Haney and all of them. I mean, he can say that. He said, I don't want to say that. What you mean? That's why people running down on him, man. You can't say the team. You can't see the team.
Starting point is 00:33:57 I'm trying to save you, everybody's right? You don't want a group of boxes chasing that. I got a white guy now. He got a white guy now? You're a white guy with a pistol, so don't want to do. You know what I'm saying? Everybody saw it. Thank God.
Starting point is 00:34:10 I'm tired of seeing somebody get chasing him in this. I love it. Everybody saw it. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. But it's so funny because a lot of times
Starting point is 00:34:19 they have fights in New York and it's like scraps in an audience or whatever. It's never New Yorkers. It's like I pretend a commission. And he's mad cool. Shout to Matt for the NYACAC and Northland of the Commission. That a lot of fights that happen outside in the arena, don't be New York fighters.
Starting point is 00:34:33 And they're messing up for New York athletes. It's like, some reason when people come to New York, they all want to show up and, yo, I'm about it. I'm like, bro, New York dudes, we're not talking. We just robbing it and enjoying the fights.
Starting point is 00:34:43 You know what I mean? Because we know we home. And the boxing community in New York is so small. We all know each other. Like, if I see when I don't like you, we spawn money, I bet. We might, you know, we're going to throw some blows.
Starting point is 00:34:52 But any day, we shake-ins, keep moving because we know that, you know, we all, we all home, man. So what's the, Well, I'm rooting for you, man. I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you this, I'm gonna tell you this, it's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:02 When you came out, I'm in the group chat, I'm like, Big Baby about to get smoked tonight. That's literally what I said to the group chat, right? Me and they're talking about it. I said, Big baby's about to get smoked tonight. Then I'm watching the fight, I'm like, yo, he's not even throwing his hands.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Like he's not, you know, you'd be moving around. You ain't doing nothing. I'm like, what's up with him? And then when the hair piece started flapping, I was just like, this is just beyond embarrassing. But then I was like, he gotta win now. Now I'm like, okay, now you got to go out there and win. Because you can't, you can't lose and have your headpiece looking like that.
Starting point is 00:35:29 But what I like, return the time for me was when you just took it off, did the little dance, I'm like, all right, I'm back. I'm rolling with a big baby. I appreciate you. I appreciate you, but. Really quickly, you guys don't know. He only had three weeks to prepare for this fight. He was a last minute ad.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Three weeks is not a very long time at all. And this guy has been active, man. He fought three times last year. He beat another four of my opponents. You know, so it was like, it was like I said before, it was a lot. in and out of camp, you know what, just give me a fight. Give me a card.
Starting point is 00:35:56 And they say, yo, we guys got it for you. I'm like, my fucking, like my height, biggest shit too. Like I take it, let's go. I'm a warrior. You know what I mean? Like I said, it's hard sometimes you switch on. And the first three, four rounds, the switch wasn't dead. So I think, I got, I pray to God, said, God, whatever you do, do not let me fall
Starting point is 00:36:12 to that. I said, please, God, I need this one back because I've been took over last year, all these lawsuits. And the toupee, I believe, was my blessing. Because the minute I took that toupee went off, it was like, I'm coming out. I want the world to go. It was like, yeah, I swear to, I mean, the minute that shit kept up, I'm like, it's time to beat his mom. I'm not getting his ass and now, pause, you know what?
Starting point is 00:36:35 I mean, like, it's true. It was like Saturday, James Roberts, you never seen what Saturday, Nick Roberts took a week ago? Yeah, man, so what's next for Big Baby? Oh, man, we got a, we got a bunch of stuff on the table right now, man. The main thing right now is me, my team, my vina, my management, Everett. Average actually manages Boots Ennis as well too I think he's actually works with Diggs too The football players so they have a couple of big things on the table
Starting point is 00:36:58 We just got to kind of map it out So we go strategically from there But a title shot definitely by the summertime We're looking at right now Actually the guy that did caught the wig Eventually was Worley's a ball guy in the audience He was supposed to fight back in July in England That fight got canceled and he actually became
Starting point is 00:37:11 The champ now because Oseq stepped down and gave his title back So he's something about coming to America So I'd be maybe a title shot with him in America but I like to get one more tune up, get the rust off, you know, get the, you know, get the oils grease in the joints a little bit. A nigga coach your wig? I thought it was a girl.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Yeah, I thought it was, I think. Well, maybe they're passing around, man. The girl had it and he gave it to me, he took a picture with it. You need a bit. It was fun. You need a better showing than your next fight. Yeah, 100%. You didn't look good Saturday.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah, you won. 100%. As they said, you won by hair. Yeah, so, hey, listen. Uh-uh. Their hair performance kind of like, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:51 they made the performance dull down the boxing performance. You know, people don't even talk about the body, talk about their hair. It's not about the hair. I mean, because the whole world can resonate with, man, bitch's wigs fall off all the time. Yeah, all the time.
Starting point is 00:38:02 But I mean, my girl, my girl being the back to, my girl, being the back to her like, I'm like, I'm like, goddeme, but I'm like, you know what? You know what? But they give you a chance. You know what? You know what? You know what?
Starting point is 00:38:14 My girl, my girl, my girl got mad here. I'm blind. She had her looks. It's so funny. because my girl has a hair company. You know what I'm trying to say? Halo hair. You know what I'm trying to say?
Starting point is 00:38:22 So she has a hair company. You got a halo on right now? No. I definitely got a halo. So like I said, shout out. Shout out. Shout to my girl TV.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Halo hair. You know, shout to my old team, Big Baby Care Foundation. Check it out. Man, we're going to open up the GoFummy. We want to get these five, ten acres for the kids, man, and get a good full training facility out there in South Florida, man.
Starting point is 00:38:42 So tune in. Hit my Instagram on Big Big Big Big Miller. TikTok, Big Big Big Miller. Love your personality. It's a blessing in this. That's a beautiful. That's the beauty. People are going to get to know his personality. His next fight, they got to get to know his hands.
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