The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Jason Lee Talks Sobriety, Political Moves, Rihanna's Friendship + More

Episode Date: December 18, 2024

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Jason Lee To Discuss His Sobriety, Political Moves, Rihanna's Friendship. Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:03:34 The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Councilman. Councilman Jason Lee. Yeah, it's good to be back. How are you feeling, sir? I'm the best hilarious Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Councilman. Councilman Jason Lee. Yeah, it's good to be back. How you feeling, sir?
Starting point is 00:03:49 I'm feeling good. You know, I'm out here dodging these murderers on the streets of New York. Yeah, sometimes. Sometimes that happens. And I ain't talking about the hood. I'm talking about, you know, the health care. Yeah. Well, congratulations, first and foremost.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Thank you. Does that change anything with Jason Lee? No. It doesn't. It should. It still could be the same. No, it doesn't. You know, I was laughing when y'all did the Megan Thee Stallion story,
Starting point is 00:04:09 you said I'm the message counselor. You know, the reality is politics are messy. You look at Trump, Trump has been able to win the highest office in the country, the leader of the free world with what he's done. And so, no, I mean, I'm evolving as a person. I'm in therapy, thanks to you, of course. Sober now, 15 months, 47 and grown. Congratulations, yeah. So I mean, I'm evolving, but I'm not as a person, I'm in therapy thanks to you, of course, sober now, 15 months, 47 and grown.
Starting point is 00:04:25 So I mean, I'm evolving, but I'm not gonna change. I'm gonna always just stay true to who I am. You, what was it, Hollywood, what was it, Hollywood Health? Health Care Unlocked. Health Care Unlocked. Yeah. So you were already, I'm not ahead of the curve,
Starting point is 00:04:37 but you were already peeping the injustices that were helping in the healthcare system and you decided to do something about it. Yeah, yeah, I mean, before entertainment, I worked in the labor movement for 11 years as the staff director for one of the largest healthcare unions in the healthcare system and you decided to do something about it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, before entertainment, I worked in the labor movement for 11 years as the staff director for one of the largest healthcare unions in the world. So I was already doing the work,
Starting point is 00:04:51 and then, you know, part of just being active in my community, I always felt like once you build your platform, you have the influence, you have the relationships, you should be doing something with that. And just the evolution of my world in the entertainment industry. I just kind of felt like,
Starting point is 00:05:06 I was falling out of love with entertainment because it wasn't what I thought it was on the outside and I just felt like my purpose wasn't being used so I just found something else to do with my time. Went back home and ran and won. So how did you feel when you saw the United Healthcare CEO get gunned down? You know it's kind of crazy
Starting point is 00:05:21 because with Healthcare Unlocked, we help low-income families get access to health care. We came up here with the CEO of the company that I partner with and they're one of our providers. So to see that happen was- You're not in health care? Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Yeah, they're one of our providers. But I mean the craziest part was if you're the CEO of a $450 billion company, why you don't have no security? Yeah, and I saw a lot of people upset about that. They were saying that he had been getting so many threats that he should have known that he shouldn't have been in New York City without any security. Yeah, and on top of that, I mean, just the other day I had this bad sinus infection went to the doctor.
Starting point is 00:05:51 It was $1,250 just to get checked up for a sinus infection. So when I think about the average everyday American, like in my hometown where there's a lot of people who are homeless or out of work, I mean, people can't even afford healthcare in our country, it should be a right, but that's just not the country we live in.
Starting point is 00:06:06 He didn't get gunned down by some poor and disenfranchised person. Yeah, he got killed by a white boy that everybody's trying to get out of prison now. That's the other thing, we have selective outrage in this country where you got somebody like this guy who now everybody is selling free Luigi T-shirts.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Ridiculous. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, I just wonder if security was there, would security have been able to stop him, right? Because he was waiting. And once they're walking, security's in front of him, he probably would have shot both him and the security. Would he have tried him if he had security? That's true, too.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Sexy Ray got better security, yeah. Jesus. Absolutely. I was going to ask, you said you've been sober for how many months? Almost 16. Congratulations. What got you to the point where you was like, I need to stop doing this? What was the last thing to be like, this is too much?
Starting point is 00:06:46 Okay, well I've never told this, but I, so I had a birthday party, I have a birthday party every year. I got so wasted at my party, I was drunk for three days, but that wasn't even a thing, cause it was like, you know, you get older, it's harder to get sober, whatever. I had woke up in my house, my friends,
Starting point is 00:07:01 we all came back to my house after my party, had lots of people in my house, but I woke up in the morning and there were people in my house that I my house after my party. Had lots of people in my house. But I woke up in the morning and there were people in my house that I didn't know. And I had a gun. That you didn't know? That I did not know. And I had a gun in my robe.
Starting point is 00:07:11 And I just thought like if I would have woke up and went downstairs and found these people in my house, how I would have. Shot them all. I would have shot all those people, you know what I mean? So then I called my friends like, why y'all leave these people in my house? They were like, oh, you know the party.
Starting point is 00:07:23 So for me it was one, I got people around me who weren't making sure I was good. Two, the Bible says warning comes before destruction. That was a warning sign because you had a lot of fun, but that could have went south. And yeah, it just was a bad thing. I didn't wanna go out like that. And I do feel like people be crashing out
Starting point is 00:07:40 and that there's these signs that come before they crash all the way out and they just don't listen to them. So for me, I heard that sign and I just literally quit. And that was it. Why do you have a gun in your robe though? I don't know. I don't know how I got here.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I mean, I got guns all over my houses and then now I'm back in Stockton, California. It's one of the most dangerous cities in the state. So like I always keep guns on me. I'm a concealed weapons holder. I think in this country right now, it's just so unpredictable. You should be ready to protect yourself at all times.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I have been, I mean, first of all, I'm very inspired by watching you run for Stockton City Council and then win. But also, I just was concerned, because I'm like, I know how these people play dirty in politics. That was never a concern of yours? No, I play dirty too.
Starting point is 00:08:20 We know, J.S. Yeah, you know, but I've built a relationship with the district attorney, Shaltey Ron Freitas. He's the most powerful man in our county. He's the one that, you know, because they're gonna try the indictment games with people when they in politics. But see, what I did was the most gangsta shit ever.
Starting point is 00:08:36 I didn't just go back and ran. What happened was when I went back, there was this girl who got murdered at a school I used to go to that I graduated from that I worked at. Her name was Lala. She was a young girl who got murdered by a guy I used to go to that I graduated from that I worked at, her name was Lala. She was a young girl who got murdered by a guy who just wandered on the campus, stabbed her in front of all her classmates.
Starting point is 00:08:50 And when they called me and told me that happened, I called Tiffany Hasher and said, yo, like we should fly to my hometown, meet with these kids, just try to inspire them to like work through it. Because when I was a kid, there was a mass shooting where this guy had come on the campus, blew up his car.
Starting point is 00:09:03 And then when all the kids ran out, he shot them all with an AK and Michael Jackson had come to Stockton. blew up his car, and then when all the kids ran out, he shot them all with an AK, and Michael Jackson had come to Stockton. And I remember as a kid, when I was in foster care, like, that was my first indication of what humanity and compassion was from somebody who didn't have to come to our hometown. So I just wanted to give that back to my community.
Starting point is 00:09:17 We flew in, we met with the kids, and I remember going to the school, and they were like, do not give the kids the microphone because all the news is here. I was like, okay, yeah, don't worry about it. And as soon as we got out there, me and Tiffany looked at each other, and then we just do not give the kids the microphone because all the news is here. I was like, okay, yeah, don't worry about it. As soon as we got out there,
Starting point is 00:09:26 me and Tiffany looked at each other and then we just said, get the kids the microphone. We wanna hear from them. And they were saying, this school's been unsafe for so long, we've been telling you that this was gonna happen and you all didn't care and then now one of our classmates is dead. So that was the beginning of me saying,
Starting point is 00:09:42 I now have all this money, platform, relationships, I gotta do something to help my hometown because, as you know, we were talking with the vice president about what was going on in D.C. and people weren't listening and then you get to a point where like you either on the outside telling people who don't listen or you get in the game and you make people listen.
Starting point is 00:09:58 So the mayor at the time and the vice mayor who I just beat came to my home in LA and we sat down and we had dinner and we talked about how do we help these young people, how do we save these young people from being murdered and 16 year olds that can't read and stuff like that. And they made this commitment that they would do a program with me and I would put in a million dollars cash, they'd put in a million dollars we'd partner on
Starting point is 00:10:19 a two year program. Well as soon as I went back to my hometown, went back to Stockton to do it, they start politicking the play on the city council, and we had hundreds of people there. And this one councilman, he said, you have all these rich friends like Rihanna and Floyd Mayweather, why don't you ask them to help you?
Starting point is 00:10:35 And that was the moment where I was like, okay, y'all gonna play in my face, not a problem. I went back, I organized my businesses, I found three other people who wanted to run, and we put a plan together to run on a slate for the first time and we all won. But I wanna shout out Kevin Hart, Floyd Mayweather, Babyface, Rihanna, everybody who actually got behind us,
Starting point is 00:10:54 Floyd and Kevin donated a lot of money to get behind the campaign and we all won. So now we all took control of the city and now it's gonna be a different city moving forward. Wow, you had the non-profit dinner that you had Rihanna host. Yeah. And you know, do you save those type of favors
Starting point is 00:11:11 for moments like that? What do you mean? Like just asking him to do things? No, I've never done a favor for her. I mean, you know, Rihanna, she gave me the photos of her first kid that we put out. She just believes in what we're doing. I think she saw the person say what he said about,
Starting point is 00:11:27 you know, go ask your rich friends, and she actually cares about the world. And now as a new mom, she really is in love with, like, you know, making sure that kids are taken care of, and that, you know, people are doing what they can do to help them. How do you know music's not? I haven't heard any music.
Starting point is 00:11:41 That's a lie. You start smiling when you laugh. No, you start smiling when you're lying. The reason you not laugh is because, one, I look at some interviews when I talk about her. You music. That's a lie. You start smiling when you laugh. No, you start smiling when you're lying. The reason I laugh is because, one, I look at some interviews when I talk about her. That's one relationship I don't even want to talk about it, because it's just I do love her so much, and I care about her, and she's a sweet person.
Starting point is 00:11:55 But she's so dialed in to what's happening. I've never asked to go to the studio, because I don't want to hear anything, because I do have a problem keeping secrets sometimes. And that's one that I don't know. Yeah, I haven't heard the music, secrets sometimes. And that's one that, I don't know. Yeah, I haven't heard the music though. Who's your favorite celebrity to hang out with? We've seen you with Tiff, we've seen you with Cardi,
Starting point is 00:12:09 we've seen you with Riri, who's your favorite? You just named them. One. Yeah. You know, favorite celebrity to hang out with. And why? Well, I'll say Rihanna, because it's the hanging out that you don't see.
Starting point is 00:12:24 You know, there's no cameras, it's not social media. It's, we just talking about life. We did karaoke. I think it's just those moments, you know? I'm supposed to come to that. Yeah. You know, Charlotte May, one day, I don't know if you text or call,
Starting point is 00:12:38 he said, you know, it's interesting how you do what you do and you have all these relationships. But yeah, I'm not, I don't want anymore. You know, I like the ones that But yeah, I don't want anymore. You know, I like the ones that I have. I don't know that no new friends, not to quote Drake, because I know he had an underdog right now.
Starting point is 00:12:50 But yeah, it's really weird because now that I am sober and I am in therapy, I see how I've been used many times or the relationships just aren't really real. Yeah, I don't want any more new friends. I'm good with the ones I got. Do you have anything that you regret, though, since your sobriety?
Starting point is 00:13:09 Like, anything you should regret? I don't regret anything, because I feel like everything I've done is a lesson, but I will say that when I was here, I made that off-the-cuff comment about Jennifer Hudson. When you said she was illiterate and a terrible television host? Okay, we don't need to repeat. Yeah, and a terrible host. Let me say this.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Let's play it all in, I'm just kidding. I will say this, I think you can be critical of people without being mean. It was an off the cuff, unplanned comment talking about something completely unrelated, but then after that, of course I got all the flak. That wasn't why I think I wanna apologize for sure, because I don't really care
Starting point is 00:13:47 when people have an opinion about me online. I saw her at the vice president's house, and when I saw her, I just, I felt bad, and I wanted to say something, but it was, you know, what do you do? It was the wrong setting to go up and have a conversation. Plus Karen Civil was right there, and it was like, it was already too much going on.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And you couldn't pass her a note, because you already said you don't think she can read, so you let her show up. Jesus Christ. Back to my apologies. No, because you know the game on the mainstream. I own my own platform, so I don't play the game. I don't have to audition.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I don't have to be good for anybody. I just do what I do. I leave it there and I go on with my business. But in this world of entertainment, you know, old white men like the people who own Denmark Mercury will find a black person to market to white people, because that's the advertising game.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And I just felt like at the time, you know, she wasn't the best talk show host. I could have been critical of that decision and criticize them not attack her to say she was illiterate, was wrong. Plus she's been through a lot of traumatic stuff like I have, and to see her in public, and you know, she gave me a lot of grace, because she could have read the shit out of me she didn't but I felt bad I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:14:48 send her a personal note and some flowers and you know piece it up with her you know at least do my part it's not to be friends or anything like that but just I just felt like it was unnecessary. So y'all did y'all speak at the BP thing or you just didn't even go up to her? Nah and I'm cool with Common too and they were together it just it was just awkward it was one of those things where like I walked in the room as soon as I hit the corner, she was standing there. And I wasn't gonna walk up and have that conversation because as soon as I walk in the room, if there's ever been anything online,
Starting point is 00:15:11 people automatically assume it's about to go down or it's just a feeling that's uncomfortable. So yeah. I was gonna ask, have you ever ran into Common? Like, because you know. Yeah. And we've talked. And did Common say anything about it or no?
Starting point is 00:15:22 No, me and him talked at that party too. Me and Common, we're not friends, but you know, we were friendly and we communicated a lot when he was dating Tiffany, so we've been in each other's spaces, been on my show. He's cool, I like and respect him. He didn't say anything, you know, we took pictures and it was cool.
Starting point is 00:15:36 So he keeps it separate, he didn't say anything. Yeah. To lose the comment, but what I told Jason earlier, well a while ago, it's like, for him to do what he does, I've never seen, I don't know what you call it, I don't wanna say gossip blogger. Cultural critic. You're the one that gave me the title cultural critic
Starting point is 00:15:53 because when I first started doing this, they were calling me everything, literally everything. I don't really care, I didn't have a title. I didn't like the title blogger only because I feel like in what we do we'll be reduced to blogger when we have Influence that you know this guy was telling me recently because I was going back and forth with this guy who wants to manage me He said because I've never had a manager
Starting point is 00:16:12 He said you know the challenge with managing you is that you know you're controversial And I said well, there's good controversy, and there's bad controversy I said when Howard Stern does what he does everybody praises him him. When Joe Rogan does what he does, everybody praises him. And what he said was, he said when they go viral, it's contained in a space. When you go viral, it just scatters everywhere and it's hard to control. And I thought, okay, so to me that's the influence.
Starting point is 00:16:37 I don't understand why that's a bad thing, but you know, again, we know what that is. So yeah, culture critic. Once you said that, I took and ran with that. But to do what you do and still have the relationships with celebrities is like unheard of and Wendy didn't have that I don't know for as Hilton did but I know Wendy didn't have that but I think the thing that people still fail to realize is that you know you can not like me or hate me or hate on what I do or whatever
Starting point is 00:17:01 I still have a relationship with you with everybody in the industry Hollywood unlocked has a relationship some you. With everybody in the industry, Hollywood Unlocked has a relationship. Some just participate, some don't. Right now there's this whole thing where people think that I don't like Jay-Z or Beyonce. I love Beyonce. I like Jay-Z, I don't know him, but I love Beyonce. But the platform is the platform.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I am though backing up from Hollywood Unlocked as much as I can in the new year. I'm putting my staff out there more. I use Hollywood Unlocked to build my brand identity. I have it now. I really wanna do things that are purpose driven. My community is important. My show, I'm in love with my show.
Starting point is 00:17:34 But outside of that and my dogs, I really don't wanna go nowhere. I don't wanna do nothing. I don't wanna really talk to nobody that don't have anything to do with what I'm on. Hollywood Unlocked, that thing can go and run. And my team is gonna do that work. I still own it, make all the money,
Starting point is 00:17:47 but I just, yeah, the industry and what I thought it was. It was different. When do you decide when you're not gonna tell a story or when you're gonna wait, right? So the Megan Thee Stallion story, you teased it months before it was released. By the way, I like how you set that up. Let me tell you, let me tell you
Starting point is 00:18:02 why I intentionally did that. And I like that you pointed out that it was in July. There's so many stories that we get on a daily basis. You know what I mean? Like I, there's so many stories we got on a daily basis. It's the, it's the, I don't get the grace for the stuff we don't put out. So you'll never know.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Like you'll never say, Jason, man, he did that because I didn't do it. You know, you don't know what I didn't put out. There's lots of marriages that I go, man, that marriage is, that because I didn't do it. You don't know what I didn't put out. There's lots of marriages that I go, man, that marriage is beautiful on social media when it's really like there's a whole bunch of other stuff behind it. Or, you know, anyway, so I don't get grace
Starting point is 00:18:34 for the stuff that we don't put out. And I think that's the part that I'm struggling with because the minute I do say something, like the thing that did go viral with Beyonce, we did a lot to protect Beyonce and Jay-Z. That has nothing to do with this stupid story that's in the news right now that's just to me ridiculous, right, and unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:18:53 But we did a lot to protect them, but because we have to deal with their handlers, and then they don't know the grace that their handlers aren't giving us, it's this thing where people feel like we're in that old school game of just deal with the help. No, I don't deal with the help. I'm a principal, you a principal.
Starting point is 00:19:08 If I have something that's going on or you have something that's going on, we can either deal with each other and if not, cool, then we do our job and then it is what it is. But people try to judge the grace that we don't give based on maybe the grace we give somebody else. I'm closer to a Charlemagne than I am to a Joe Rogan, so it's gonna be a different relationship
Starting point is 00:19:26 because proximity is gonna change the job. And I think people are having a hard time digesting that. That's why I'm just like, I don't wanna deal with it no more. Deal with the platform if you don't like the story, talk about it online and then we'll just keep doing the work. But yeah, I don't get the grace that I deserve, but it's okay.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I was gonna ask one more question. There's something he said, remember I say that about Wendy all the time, I say the beauty of Wendy Williams is, wasn't what she went on the air with, it was the thing she didn't talk about. Wendy could have been crushing with the things she could have actually been saying. And that's what I just, that's interesting to hear you say that, because I saw the same thing with her.
Starting point is 00:20:02 It's a sensitive balance though too, you know like you have somebody like a Serena Williams. We have a relationship that we don't promote, but recently I had to say, I really need you to read my book, because I really need you to understand the background of who I am, because there's knowing me, Jason,
Starting point is 00:20:17 and then there's knowing me from Instagram or social media or my show. Like, two totally different people. Back to the make thing, the reason why I held onto that for so long, there's a couple reasons. One, you know, I love the fact that Michael Rubin has a successful career, successful businesses,
Starting point is 00:20:33 and lots of privilege that he takes advantage of, and that he has the white party. The white party I thought was ours from a long time ago, right, before, you know, the baby oil and dildo start flying around. Damn. Damn. Damn. Still got day job.
Starting point is 00:20:49 But you know, but cultural, what they say, they co-opted culture, they took that. So now that's the party that everybody wants to go to, which is great, and I've been to it, it's a good party. You know, when Michael's not hanging on your back. When I heard about what happened at the party, I was like, yo, that really went down. I wasn't there, you know, I didn't get my invite,
Starting point is 00:21:08 so I'ma just hold onto that. Well, Megan and Winnie, I know both of them, but then just Megan, there's so much out there we heard that people don't know. I just felt like, you know, in the party, I'm just going to drop it, but I have to win office first. That's why I had to hold onto it. I couldn't drop it while I was,
Starting point is 00:21:23 I already went viral with the Jennifer Henson thing, now I'm gonna do this, so I'm gonna just wait. So I waited till I got elected, then I dropped. I was also gonna ask, you know, with Trump suing and winning $15 million for somebody reporting a wrong story. Yeah, not just somebody, that was George, Stepan, Stepan, Stepan, Stepan, I was, yes.
Starting point is 00:21:42 That's why they say his last name. So when it comes to your staff, do you tell them to make sure you understand what's going on because now, if you report a wrong story. I mean, I reported the queen died. And that's my point. If you report the wrong story, they're gonna be suing now because the fact that Trump get 15 million and the fact that Trump's about to change
Starting point is 00:21:57 this whole Indian landscape. That's what I'm doing was different, Jason. Why? Because if you report the queen died and she didn't die, that usually is a career end for a lot of people. Okay, but here's the deal. One, we never saw her after I reported it. Two, no, no, we didn't.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Hot, Twitter, right now everybody's on Twitter. We did not see her, we saw a photo of her. That don't, you know. She was outside in the park drinking coffee or something like that, right? She was not, and she was, she was, she was gone. She was gone. She had a Hollywood Unlocked t-shirt on.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Yo, shut up, stop that. She had a free Wendy mug. No,shirt on. Yo shut up, stop it. She had a free Wendy mug. No, but, you know, by the way, the way they've locked Wendy away is insane. We saw her this weekend. Well, I didn't see her. No, you didn't. Somebody saw her this weekend.
Starting point is 00:22:35 In Florida. Yeah, they said it's our floor. Allegedly. That's what I said, I said that must be old. Okay, anyway. The queen, we didn't see her after I said she was dead. So even though I was on vacation when I broke that I you know I kind of stand behind it, but as far as
Starting point is 00:22:49 I don't want to double down anymore cuz that was this enough, but she was dead So look I feel like I tell my writers all the time I mean, you know, you have to have a lot we have to have insurance We have insurance for everything we have millions dollars worth of insurance So if you do stuff we get sued whatever I've been sued probably more than 20 times for using images we weren't supposed to use. But I mean, yeah, they do their research, and they make sure that they follow, you know, all the rules, but sometimes you make a mistake.
Starting point is 00:23:14 That was a big mistake that George made, though. One word. Yeah, but rape versus... Battery and defamation. I mean, rape. Yeah, so we have to watch it. On my show, we have insurance and stuff, too, but I do have to watch what I mean, great. Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah. Yeah, so we have to watch it. On my show, we have insurance and stuff too, but I do have to watch what I say,
Starting point is 00:23:28 because people are suing. I'll sue. We should be suing. You damn right. Jay-Z should be suing, but. He will. Is he suing right now? I hope so.
Starting point is 00:23:35 I'm sure he will. I'm sure there'll be a defamation suit coming soon. I hope so, yeah. The Jason Lee Show is coming back exclusively on Zeus. Yep, and you know what I have to shout out Lemmy O'Plummer too because Zeus, they also aired our award show, which by the way, hopefully you guys come next year.
Starting point is 00:23:50 How we would unlock them back awards. Y'all still ain't been there, and you got an award, it's right there. Yeah. Exactly. It's right over there. Yeah, I mean we're a black-owned award show on a black network. I mean I've been very intentional
Starting point is 00:23:59 about working with black people. I mean and Lemmy O', he got the chaos over there, but he's done a really good job of helping us to platform the awards show. I didn't seek out other partnerships to distribute it because I really wanted to keep it within our culture. This year we honored Sharon Stone, Cardi, Jasmine Crockett, Ben Crump, who else we had?
Starting point is 00:24:23 Christian Louboutin, we had a lot of different people. Tiffany Haddish hosts. Next year. Yeah, but had a lot of different people. Tiffany had us host. Next year. Yeah, but they come to your award show. That's the difference between what he's doing and everybody else too. They're actually coming to your award show. Yeah, well that's what happens when,
Starting point is 00:24:34 again, this is a black-owned, culture-celebrated show, and no disrespect to BET, because I just worked with them yesterday, but it's not owned by us. And I think that they, I'm willing to go over there and help with them yesterday, but it's not owned by us. And I think that they, you know, I'm willing to go over there and help them produce it. But yeah, we individually invite all the honorees and they show up.
Starting point is 00:24:52 This year was crazy. Next year is already gonna be crazy. And shout out to Babyface. He said, you know, if you want me to do your music next year, I'll do your music. So we're gonna have Babyface do the music. Wow. Wow. You already know who you wanna honor this year?
Starting point is 00:25:03 Absolutely. You wanna say it now? No. No, because I want to lock them all in first, but this year is going to be, next year is going to be bigger than ever. And we do it right there. We were very intentional about doing it at the Hilton Ballroom where they do the Clive Davis party and the Emmys and all that because, you know, we need to move our stuff in spaces
Starting point is 00:25:21 where they may not want us there or they think we can't afford it. So we, yeah, it was great this year. How was the Jonathan Majors moment in person? Oh yeah, we honored Jonathan. It was great when we decided to honor Jonathan. We live in council culture where everybody wants to council culture, and I've been against council culture from the beginning
Starting point is 00:25:38 because I feel like it's applied unfairly. We've all been subject to it, but we all still standing. I think it rents space in people's head. They don't understand, you know, we've all been subject to it, but we all still standing, and I think it rents space in people's head, they don't understand, you actually can't overcome the BS of cancel culture. Jonathan was an easy one, when I looked at what he went through, I look at Emmett Till, or you look at Central Park Five,
Starting point is 00:25:57 or times where people have thrown stuff on us that isn't true, and I felt like, man, this year, the Impact Awards is really about moments of impact throughout the year, opportunities to create impactful conversation. And Jonathan went through a very public scenario where he is one of the most talented actors I've ever seen and met,
Starting point is 00:26:14 and to watch him go through that with that woman, I felt like, let's elevate the conversation of redemption. When do we get redemption? Like, when is, are we not redeemable people? You know, the same way I think BET missed a moment with Chris Brown during the Us of redemption. When do we get redemption? Are we not redeemable people? The same way I think B.T. missed a moment with Chris Brown during the Usher tribute. You should have had Chris there.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Everybody deserves redemption. And when I asked him to do it, we had lunch, and he was just emotional. I mean, he cried because he was surprised that somebody actually wanted to give him that honor. When he came, I called Yann Levenz and I asked her to present to him. And at first she was just like,
Starting point is 00:26:47 well, let me think about this. And she came back and wrote her thing. And then I asked Karen Clark Sheer to sing a song for him. And then when he did it, it was just so powerful that everybody in the room was crying because he was honest about his experience and he still maintained his innocence
Starting point is 00:27:07 and then now to see the case be thrown out after he lost so much. But he does have a new movie that he just did that I watched. I mean, I think he's gonna have a great comeback. And it was a moving moment. Was that the magazine Dream movie? Yep, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Is it really good? Oh, it's, I told him, I was like, yo, I don't know. It's, yeah, it's great. Wow. was like, you know, I don't know. It's it's yeah, it's it's great. Wow. Now, when you when you become councilman in January, what's the first thing you want to do? Well, one, we're going to restore order in my city. Part of the problem is that I told everybody and I think they they haven't been listening to me on the campaign trail
Starting point is 00:27:37 because they kind of wrote me off as he's just a rich, out of town celebrity, reality star, blogger, whatever they did, which is fine, because that was a distraction I needed to put my head down and actually win. I said, I'm gonna get in there and audit all the Measure A money, all the money that you all have been spending, and if I find anything wrong, y'all going to jail.
Starting point is 00:27:55 And I meant that. And so the first thing on January 7th, I'm ordering an audit, and I'm on the Budget Committee of all the money, and they know that that's coming. And I can feel the shifting happening in my community. I think just how we invest in nonprofits, nonprofits led by women, people of color, really looking at how the city can partner to invest in those that are doing the real work and touching those who need it the most. And then homelessness is a big issue in my community so we've been
Starting point is 00:28:20 bringing folks from the state there this man named Mark Fossett who's managing a six point three eight billion dollar budget that the city never applied for So we've been bringing folks from the state there, this man named Mark Fosse, who's managing a $6.38 billion budget that the city never applied for. He's now in the city meeting with the county and city officials about how to get some of that money there for homelessness. And then, you know, just creating opportunities for young people because that city's where I met
Starting point is 00:28:36 Queen Latif, but 30 years ago, that inspired me to get in entertainment and that literally locked everything, yeah. So tell them I'm very jealous of that. Yeah, we talk about you. Don't lie. Yeah. So, I'm very jealous of that. Your relationship with her. Yeah, we talk about you. Don't lie.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Yeah, for real. Yeah, I told her what you said, how much you care about her and love her, and I love her too. And ironically, she's never been on either of our shows. Never. Ain't that crazy? I mean, I'm fine with it, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:00 Because she's been an inspiration from afar, her and Shaqem. Because I just always believe in building institutions, especially with black women, you know what I'm saying? And Shaqem was one of the first brothers I saw do that, like really say, yo, me and this black woman right here, we gonna build something and look what they've built. But you know what I learned in therapy,
Starting point is 00:29:19 I respect you so much for encouraging me to go to therapy, but I also don't like that you encouraged me to go to therapy, I'll tell you why. I think therapy in many ways has made me softer. What's wrong with that? I don't like that. What's wrong with that? I don't, you know, because I think it's okay
Starting point is 00:29:36 to have feelings, like I have feelings, right? I do have, I believe it or not, I have feelings. But I also feel like when people feel like you're vulnerable, they then try to take advantage of you even more. And I have had more people trying it, but at least with sobriety and clarity, you see it now, and I'm like, I call it out. What I learned in therapy, though, with Queen Latifah
Starting point is 00:29:54 is that I feel like I had abandonment issues for my mom. Because my mother, when she was on drugs, would come to the group home and visit me or foster her, and then she would never take me home with her. And it wasn't because she didn't want me, she just was on drugs and couldn't she just wasn't well you know and she had mental health issues and stuff so because I wanted her to show up for me and she didn't when I when I would when now that I've become Jason Lee and Hollywood unlocked all
Starting point is 00:30:17 that and Queen Latifah not showing up and my fans asking where she is it was triggering and it wasn't until I was in therapy I was like like, well, I got abandoned. So I had to really like compartmentalize that relationship and say, I do have access to her. I love her. She gave me inspiration to pursue my dreams. She gave me the support when my brother was murdered and spent time talking to me through that. And I love her.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Which is more important. Which is, that's all the more important stuff. And I also know she don't want to come on my show because when she does, she bring her ass up there, we gonna really talk. And when you talk to your friend You know telling what to come out. Yeah Absolutely, and I love you for joining us brother. Of course Councilman Jason Lee. That's right. It's Jason Lee
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