The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Jermaine Johnson Talks Running For Governor Of South Carolina, Affordability, Education + More

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Jermaine Johnson Talks Running For Governor Of South Carolina, Affordability, Education. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omny...studio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:56 We are the Breakfast Club. Lorne Roses here as well. we got a special guest in the building he's running for governor of South Carolina ladies and gentlemen Jermaine Johnson welcome brother what's going on man appreciate you all for having me this morning
Starting point is 00:03:07 are you feeling I'm feeling good this morning man it feels real good we know we got an opportunity to do some history making the South Carolina Como staid man more you be in much gusto they said he speaks Spanish
Starting point is 00:03:21 I don't speak Spanish I don't like when you do that He's Dominican but don't never want to claim him right just break it out whenever you want to No, they say he's flu in his banish. I'm trying to test them. He definitely dead.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Yeah, yeah. Police Navidad. I heard that's your favorite Christmas song, brother. One day. Why do you want to run for Governor of South Carolina? What beautiful stage? Yeah, well, South Carolina deserves a change. It's time for a new beginning for South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:03:49 We've seen some crazy stuff happening in the state. We know South Carolina has over 600 unsolved murders just since 2020 alone. We have the highest percentage. of bridges and disrepair in the entire country. Our roads are the top two worst than the entire country and most dangers in the entire country. But yet we have leaders in South Carolina that want to look at other states
Starting point is 00:04:07 and look at other countries and talk trash about them when really South Carolina needs all the assistance that they can get right about now. And we have a governor that decided to send our national guardsmen to Washington, D.C., because Donald Trump told them to do so. You know, it's time for somebody
Starting point is 00:04:20 who really wants to just focus on the issues that are happening to everyday South Carolinians. I mean, you know, talk about pause, overachieve. I mean, how do you have the time. I mean, you talk about, you have a pilot license, your motorcycle club, member of Phi Beta Sigma,
Starting point is 00:04:34 your professor, your business school, and a business school board of Benedict College, which is the HBCU. There's so many things that you do. First black state representative to represent his district. Absolutely. Fluid Hispanic. So like, when do you have the time? Why do you forget the University of Delaware thing? What happened?
Starting point is 00:04:50 I didn't want to say that one. We received the University of Delaware's Biden Award. Yes. We don't talk about it. but you're doing so much and when do you have the time, brother? Oh, man, listen, I'm blessed with a beautiful wife, man, who's sitting in here in the studio with me right now.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Oh, right. That's the key. A black woman. Very important to say, a black woman. There you go. That's the key. My wife, she's, you know, very successful in her own right. She's a pharmacist as well, so she's a doctor.
Starting point is 00:05:16 So I'm a doctor-bus administration. I've just been a blessed individual to have the support of my family to allow me to do the things that I need to do. She's not a selfish individual. so she just supports me when I have to go out here in the community and just make the changes I need to make. Did you guys meet at Benedict? So we went to college of Charleston.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Shout out the College of Charleston. Yeah, so I played basketball at the College of Charleston. The same time that Stephen Curry was at Davidson and let Steph know right now that we beat them. That's why he ended up going to the NBA that year. We put him out the tournament, you know, and I was part of that team down there at College of Charleston. But that's what we met at, and we've been together since.
Starting point is 00:05:53 I was going to say you are the second Democrat to launch a campaign for governor. Talk to us about just the feats and the things that are about to be ahead of you. Like, what are you nervous about? What are you excited about? About the make history. Well, I'm not really nervous about anything.
Starting point is 00:06:08 The people all across South Carolina, they want to see something different. They've been excited ever since I decided to announce my run for governor because they know I've been the one who's been fighting on the behalf for years now. I think most of you all probably saw that DEI speech that I did
Starting point is 00:06:22 that has been seen by over about 7 million people at this point. People all across this. country, you decided to reach out to me and say, Germain, we would love for you to run for higher office to do some things. So the people of South Carolina are just ready for something different. I will be the second black
Starting point is 00:06:36 nominee in the history of South Carolina. That is a big deal right now. And even if, you know, even if I don't win, some young boy or some young girl will look at me and say, man, I can now be that guy. It's possible. I can grow up to be him when I, you know, when I get up there.
Starting point is 00:06:52 So, you know, I went to seven different high schools. I had a, you know, I had a point A.G My freshman year high school. I was homeless, most of my upbringing. I lived at a point eight, man. Yeah, at a point eight, man. Yeah, yeah. I lived in motels. I lived in an evergreen motel, a travel lodge inn, and all these different places and slept on friends' couches and things like that. But yet I still was able to graduate, still was able to go to college, still was able to get my doctorate, still was able to be a professional athlete, you know, a whole bunch of stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:18 So kids know what's possible. You know, you mentioned the highways in South Carolina. Anybody that's been to South Carolina, you just see how much is growing, right? Like, I mean, traffic is crazy in Charleston, traffic is crazy in places like Mounts Corner. Does the state have the proper infrastructure to accommodate the growing population? Man, heck no, man. And I know you've seen it yourself, man. Listen, anybody who was driven between South Carolina and North Carolina, you can literally see the line in the road about how bad it is.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Like, you can feel the, you can feel how bad it is. And because people are dying every single day, this is why our insurance is so high. Like, car insurance continues to go up, and it's partly because of how bad it. infrastructure is and we're not truly addressing these issues. People are dying every single day on these roads, man. And until we start to take this thing serious, you know, I don't know what, I don't know what's going to happen. I was going to ask, you know, you talk about the murders, you talk about the roads. What's the first thing you want to do when you get in office? Well, the biggest thing I'm all about is mental health. I traveled the state about a year
Starting point is 00:08:16 and a half ago with a bunch of former gang members, Bloods and Crips and GDs, and we went to different communities where they felt disenfranchised. And we asked them, well, how can we solve the issues in your communities. And these are places that were not in my district. I went all over the state. I went about 30 different counties. And every last county said mental health. Every last one said mental health, mental health. Because
Starting point is 00:08:37 of these kids are out here, you know, we have a bunch of people who are running around with undiagnosed mental health concerns. And then they're raising kids now also with undiagnosed mental health concerns. And then we also have given them access to guns by the Constitution to carry and all those different types of things. So it's caused so many problems.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Well, I want to make sure that police officers actually have the support in terms of having a mental health provider on, you know, on the staff with them. I want to make sure that the schools have mental health workers in every single district in the state. I want to make sure people have that work. Now, Andrew Yang is also a supporter. How did you and Andrew Yang get up? Oh, man. So in 2019, when I was looking at who I was going to support for president of the United States, I was actually a Cory Booker supporter. Shout out to Cory Booker. But what Cory Booker was talking about wasn't really, in my opinion, talking about solutions
Starting point is 00:09:24 and then I came across the Asian guy I talked about he wanted to give everybody $1,000 a month and when I thought about it, I said, man, $1,000 a month would have really changed my life. Like, it would have kept me out of those hoods. It would have kept me out of living in those motels.
Starting point is 00:09:36 That would have really changed everything about me. And when I met him, it was like, he was talking about AI and all these other things that literally we are seeing every single day now. Like everything he said, he was right about everything. And that's what led me to him. And I said, man, let me go ahead and help you. And we've been friends ever since.
Starting point is 00:09:52 You talk a lot of, about economic empowerment. What's the specific plan to bring like real investment, real jobs, you know, real entrepreneurship into rural counties, you know, in South Carolina? Well, one of the things that I've already done is in my district, I created something, the Lord Rich and Tech Academy. And what that does is it teaches low coding and no coding technologies to the people in the rural community and allows them to start their own entrepreneur businesses in those areas. So in Eastover, South Carolina, we have started at least 40 different small businesses right there in that rural area.
Starting point is 00:10:24 These are majority of black and brown people that started these different businesses down there. I want to take that entire program across the state. I also want to work on this, my South Carolina Residency Act. So what that's going to do is going to mandate South Carolina to be able to produce or manufacture at least 25% of the resource that we need in South Carolina. Right now, South Carolina only produces 11% of the food that we consume every single year. 11% is not enough.
Starting point is 00:10:49 So we have to import all of our food from other states, from other countries. want to say, listen, let's produce our own stuff. What that's going to do is that's going to help out our rural communities as well as our farmers to put them back to work, allow them to expand the farms and say, listen, we're going to get our own produce from the people who are right here in South Carolina. When did you learn to start projecting your voice? Every time you talk, I want to do push-ups and stuff. You got a net.
Starting point is 00:11:09 You got a man. You got a little place and something. Oh, man. Listen, well, I actually, I got a degree in communications, but my thing was No, you're a loud little boy. They always say I was loud, man. I've always been a loud speaker. They've always confused me with saying, hey, man, you talk a lot.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I don't talk a lot. I just talk loud, you know, and I want to be heard. I need to be heard when I'm speaking up for people. People always ask if you do become governor. Well, we say when you do become governor, how would you work with Donald Trump? Oh, man, listen, man, you're going to bring that man up up ahead, man.
Starting point is 00:11:45 So my thing is, and what I've told everybody, I don't care who's in the White House. care if it's a Republican. I don't care if it's a Democrat in the White House. If it's not good for South Carolina, I'm not supporting it. I'm truly South Carolina first. We have these crazy people who are running for office to call themselves Trump conservatives. I was like, what the hell is a Trump conservative, man? Like, you know, you let one man define what a conservative is, and that's the problem. So if Donald Trump wants to do good for South Carolina, I will gladly work with him. If he wants to do bad, I'll gladly stand
Starting point is 00:12:13 against them. And I've been the independent thinker. I don't care, you know, what part of you decide to be with. If it's not good for the people of South Carolina, I'm not supporting it. What's your plan the overhaul education so students graduate in South Carolina either career ready, college ready or business ready? You know, we lag behind national average.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Man, we're 43rd in the country. Lord, have mercy. Yeah, it's bad, man, and we haven't done anything about it. So you know places like Greenville are receiving more funds than places like Denmark, right? So we have an issue where we're not funding these schools adequately. So
Starting point is 00:12:47 I want to do a full on public education to audit. What I want to do is I want to compare the rural schools that are well performing with the rural schools that are poor performing and the urban schools with the urban schools that are poor performing. I want to look at the administration and overhead and to see if there's any wasteful spending with the administration. And I also want to look at teacher pay. I want to look at all that and compare them all across the entire state. And create this after this entire audit, I want to get all the information together and then make best practices
Starting point is 00:13:17 from there. So to make sure that we have all the information we need to make the best decision. Right now we're not doing anything. We're just looking at social issues. We're more concerned with banning books in South Carolina. We're the number one state of banned books. South Carolina is. We want to look at all the crazy stuff going on
Starting point is 00:13:33 instead of actually investing. We want to take away public school money and give it to private damn schools, man. I mean, that is a problem right there. And in these private schools, if you want to send your kid to this private school, they literally can say your kid can't come to the private school, but my kid can come, but your tax dollars
Starting point is 00:13:49 going to pay for my kid to go to the private school that your kid can't even get to. And that's a problem in South Carolina. So we have to truly look at public education to make sure we're fixing and addressing these issues. What's the one thing the governor is doing wrong? The governor right now, what's one thing that he's doing wrong? If you could pick out all the things, one thing that really hurts you.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Kissing Donald Trump's butt. I mean, just to be honest. He sent 200 of our National Guardsmen to Washington, D.C. And when he sent them up there, what they're doing is they're literally on the side of the road, up trash in D.C. right now. Well, if those 200 National Guardsmen
Starting point is 00:14:21 didn't have anything to do, well, how come they're not in South Carolina helping to solve those 600 unsolved murders that I talked about? Well, like, they could easily been put to work doing something better for the people of South Carolina. But no, every time Donald Trump calls, he answers. And that's the problem that we have. We need to
Starting point is 00:14:37 be addressing these issues that are in South Carolina. But when the president calls, aren't you supposed to answer them? You're supposed to answer, but you don't got to, like, do everything to this man say every time he says, send you, I mean, and he did it. during hurricane season. I mean, come on, man. Like, we're sitting in a situation
Starting point is 00:14:52 where it could be seriously dangerous putting more South Carolinas at risk because you want to appease one man. That's the problem. What would be the consequence saying, though, to him? You're just not going to be best friends with them anymore? I mean, I'm... He can stop federal funding.
Starting point is 00:15:06 He can... He can... Get your resources for, like, when there's, like, emergencies in South Carolina or even funding for, like, the schools and stuff that you're talking about right now. Yeah, I mean, he could talk about... He could talk about all different types of federal funding issues,
Starting point is 00:15:16 but we're seeing federal funding cuts already so I mean it doesn't really matter he's going to cut us anyways if he doesn't like us you know and he might threaten once I become governor he might threaten to cut funding in anyways just because I'm a black Democrat you be a DIA hire right
Starting point is 00:15:31 but I always say listen I call me DIA I definitely earned it right so I mean that's the type of person I am so how do you make sure that like when you go in and do all the testing in those schools and you you know raise those numbers to get the funding and stuff that the teachers are still really connected to the students
Starting point is 00:15:48 because I've been, like, I went to an inner city school and when we got more, better numbers, score numbers, test numbers, more money. The teachers they brought in were so disconnected from us. Like, it changed the environment of the school and it was like, it caused more students to not come back to the school. And I think that happens a lot, especially in the inner city school. So how do you
Starting point is 00:16:04 like do good in those schools, but also make sure the teachers are still like invested in the student? Right. Well, the thing is you have to make sure that you are connected with the school. So one thing that I've done even as a state representative, I decided to go and become a substitute teacher. So I went into the public schools to go.
Starting point is 00:16:20 You do it. What happened you're doing? He's crazy. Yeah, it is. I do a lot. But I wanted to go in there because I wanted the teachers to, one, know that I cared. I wanted the kids to be able to see me and say, man, like, that's a state representative. He's a politician, but yet he's still, like, he's one of us.
Starting point is 00:16:39 And I can be him and I can see him and I can touch him, you know? So I went in there to really assess the situation. and I think you lead by example and I don't plan to stop any of the work that I'm doing once I become governor I plan to continue on going into these schools I plan to continue on going in there and advocating for them
Starting point is 00:16:56 I even filed a bill that would mandate that the members of the General Assembly would have to do at least five days a year of volunteering or substitute teaching in the public schools because I need to see it yeah that's great we always talk about trade schools right I'm a salute to Lincoln Tech
Starting point is 00:17:10 I'm an ambassador for Lincoln Tech I love trade schools but you really love trade schools Explain why and why you think trade schools are so necessary. Well, I mean, listen, we put too much emphasis on these four-year institutions. I think if you're not an athlete or you're not going to be a lawyer or a doctor, you should be looking at trade schools. And we have allowed people to really just keep overselling these four-year institutions all the time. And trade schools, we have a lack of workers right now. We have a lack of electricians.
Starting point is 00:17:38 We have a lack of plumbers. We have a lack of engineers. You know, my son right now is going to Midland State. technical college to get his mechatronics degree right now because Scott Motors needs more workers that's that's coming to South Carolina, Michigan said about 65% of their workforce for retiring over the next few years. We have a lack of these industrial workers and I think we need to put an emphasis. I mean people can come out of these school these trade schools making $85,000 after two years. I mean they'll be 19 years
Starting point is 00:18:06 old man like you got to think about that you know helping these kids to learn how to invest in their futures. I got cousins man and Monk's Corner who were doing HVAC as soon as they got out high school, they ain't missed the meal in 25 years. That's right. That's right, man. And I love the conversations you're having because you're talking about economic empowerment. You're talking about mental
Starting point is 00:18:25 health, you know, something else you were talking about. Oh, trade schools. Like, all of that stuff to me is just about affordability and how to keep people safe. Why is that so hard for politicians living there? Life ain't complicated. People just want some more money in their pocket and they want to feel safe.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Because they're allowing Fox News and CNN to be the driving talking point. And I think that's the problem. We do the same thing in South Carolina. The Republicans, they quote Fox News, Democrats quote CNN, you know, and I think we need to get away from that. I think we need to get back to addressing the issues.
Starting point is 00:18:57 I mean, I'm all about affordability. People are hungry, man. Like, people are starving out here. We don't even have a minimum wage in South Carolina. Like, people always say, let's raise minimum wage. We don't have one. We have to establish a minimum wage before we can raise the dang minimum wage.
Starting point is 00:19:12 You know, so, I mean, it's issues like that. and minimum wage is $7.25. Who was living off of $7.25? You know, I mean, we have these issues all over the place, and I don't know why people want to hit on these big social issues and talk about abortion every single year and talk about, you know, guns every single year. I mean, man, people want the same thing.
Starting point is 00:19:31 They want food. They want safety. They want good schools. They want good roads. They want good jobs. Is South Carolina a good reflection of politics everywhere? And the reason I asked that because South Carolina is the only place where you might be with Bacari Sellers in the morning, but be with, you know, Lindsey Graham in the afternoon. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:19:50 You might be with Tim Scott on the Tuesday, Jim Clyburn on the Wednesday. You might be with a Nancy Mason on the Thursday and then, you know, some other, Jamie Harrison on a Friday. Like, it's such a unique place. Is there any place else like that? I haven't seen any other place like South Carolina, man.
Starting point is 00:20:05 South Carolina, we get together a lot. Like, Republicans and Democrats get together a lot. Now, the issue that I see is that behind closed doors, is all, listen, it's all a show, y'all. It is all a show, a TV show, reality TV show. Because I've had, you know, somebody's Republicans come with me in the back room and say, Jermaine, I agree with everything you just said, man, like, I'm with you, I'm with you. And then go out there and say the complete opposite thing.
Starting point is 00:20:30 And then I be like, bro, like, don't come to the back room and apologize to me, you know, after you just said this other stuff back here. Man, but they might primary me if I vote this way or if I do that, but you know, I'm going to help you on the back end or I'm going to do this. I'm like, man, y'all are some real live cowards. Like you're a coward And I say this all the time I say listen
Starting point is 00:20:46 Let's tell the truth Let's talk about it Let's be honest about this stuff You know And there's just a bunch of cowards in there Man and I think that's the problem And that's why I liked your DEI speech And everybody should go watch it
Starting point is 00:20:55 If they haven't But you directly confronted colleagues As you just kind of put it But you said Are friends behind the scenes But vote for racism When it matters That's right
Starting point is 00:21:05 What did you want to speak that bold Yeah man So I was so mad When I had to give that speech Man I didn't plan None of that stuff man I was sitting in my desk and I was ready to go honestly it was like a long day
Starting point is 00:21:15 but there was an amendment that went up there that said no public dollars would go to white supremacy programs and now I'm thinking these people up here are my friends right so I'm thinking they're going to say something about this amendment they're even going to pass it or they're going to say something and then table it man nobody said anything
Starting point is 00:21:30 nobody said anything one of the Republicans just walked by the speaker of the house and just put his hand up like this said move the table didn't say nothing bro I was so mad and it said white supremacists White supremacist. And I was like, I said, yo, come on, man. So I jumped up so fast and ran to the front.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And the ladies behind the desk were trying to calm me down. So if you see in that video clip, I have a cup of water up there. It was because the ladies behind the desk gave me a cup of water trying to calm me down. And I was like, man, I had to. So I said what I had to say. But what happened after that, after I said what I said, I left out the back of the steps of the statehouse. And I sat down. I actually cried, man.
Starting point is 00:22:06 I cried because I was so hurt. I was so hurt that these people that know my kids, that know my family. I know their family, you know, we've hung out together and this, and y'all have the audacity not to even stand up on my behalf, like not to say nothing, you know, but after that happened, so what happened is, uh, as I was sitting outside, people started coming out to the back steps of the statehouse saying, Jermaine, we won.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I was like, what you mean we won? It said, we pulled the whole proviso out of the budget. They got rid of the whole damn bill. And because, and one by one Republicans came up to me as I was coming back to the state house, they were like, Germain, we apologize. We're sorry, we did this in poor taste. We shouldn't have did it this way But it shouldn't have ever got to that point
Starting point is 00:22:44 They should have spoke up on the front half And made it known to the people of South Carolina That white supremacy has no place in South Carolina As a politician, because in your speech too You also said that they let you down every time When you were talking about them voting, right? As a politician, like when you're disappointed like that How hard is it to like next day get up
Starting point is 00:23:02 And still like fight the good fight? Yeah, man, it's difficult every day It is difficult every single day Because you have to go on there and you got to put yesterday behind you. But the hard part about it is knowing that every time you push red or green, someone's going to die based on your vote. That's the hardest part about it.
Starting point is 00:23:19 And I truly don't believe that you could be a politician for 30 or 40 years and truly care about people. I don't think you can because it weighs too much in your conscience if you truly care about people. I mean, it kills me every single day knowing how people across South Carolina are suffering because of what we're doing up there. You know, even when I was on the Rish and County Recreation Commission,
Starting point is 00:23:37 I didn't feel right about writing policy without actually talking to the people so I drove around all the parks and met all the employees and met everybody because I wanted them I wanted to know what they were doing every single day I didn't feel good about making laws and making things about them
Starting point is 00:23:50 and I had never even seen what the people on the ground are doing it's tough and honestly I don't have an answer to it man because it's so hard dealing with these individuals every single day knowing that some of them just don't give a damn about you have any of the other legislators in South Carolina, like, changed the way
Starting point is 00:24:09 they approach you since you made that speech? Yeah, man, listen, they, a lot of them got, started getting afraid. They started to get afraid. I've had some, I've had some closed doors
Starting point is 00:24:21 to come to Jesus meetings, man. How do you? 6-7. 6-7, black man. 6-7. Yeah. That's got to be a part of your campaign in some way.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Yeah, listen, I got my, I got my daughter working on something, man. I got my daughter working on this a good 6-7 jump, man. But who do you, just to piggyback off of Lauren's question, who do you go to in those vulnerable moments? I mean, I know you have a beautiful wife that, you know, but like, is it therapy? Is it your pastor? Yes. Is it, you know? All of those.
Starting point is 00:24:49 You got a lot of weight. Yeah, yeah. I go to my, I go to my wife a lot. I lay a lot on her shoulders, a lot of the things that I got to deal with. And then I also go to my pastor. I don't, I don't know how many times I've called him crying and talking about the issues, talking about the concerns of the people. I mean, I had one person, man. who didn't want me to come back.
Starting point is 00:25:08 This is right when COVID has started. And he didn't want me to come pass out mask down in his church because he was more interested in his political position than me actually saving lives. You know, and I was so hurt by that, man. And I've talked about those type of situations. You know, I have a therapist that I go to. Listen, and let me make this a PSA.
Starting point is 00:25:30 It is black folk. It is okay to have Jesus and a therapist. You know, because we always talk about praying things away. Listen, I pray and I go to therapy. And I need the assistance that I can to help me deal with some of these issues and concerns that the people are having. Yeah. But it's heavy. It really
Starting point is 00:25:47 is. Yeah. What's the identity you want South Carolina to have under your leadership because, you know, people will say it's like a lot of old South politics that still shaped the state today. What's it going to look like under you? Yeah, no DC and S.E. I say that all the time. No DC and S.C.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Right now, we are too reliant upon Washington, D.C. and federal policies. I don't want Washington, D.C. to dictate what we do in South Carolina. I want to make sure that we are just self-sufficient and that we are addressing the needs of the people of South Carolina. No matter if it's red or blue, whatever's going on, we need to address the issues of South Carolina. So that's going to be our main thing. No D.C. and S.C.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Well, we appreciate you for joining us. I got to ask, is it true that you? you was so poor. You cooked off a frozen hot dog or a candle. Is that true? Yeah, that's true, man. How long did that take? Bro, listen, and I do not recommend it, man. I do not recommend it, bro. It tastes like burnt dog and wax, man. It was terrible. But, yeah, so, you know.
Starting point is 00:26:50 And it had no pot. Listen, no, there was no electricity or nothing. Oh, okay. Say that. I'm like, huh? Yeah, there was no electricity. So because there was no electricity, bro, it was like, I had to get like a, you know, it was like the, you know, after the electricity go up, like their refrigerator is still kind of cold.
Starting point is 00:27:04 So I had to get one of the hot dogs and got one of the hot dogs and lit the candle, man, and put it on top of the candle and the outside was burned but the inside was frozen man that thing was terrible man I don't recommend I would hate to see you hungry oh bro
Starting point is 00:27:18 but thank God I have some people that looked out for me too man you know my childhood wasn't all bad man you know I had people that looked out for me and gave me opportunities and things so I'm a blessed man
Starting point is 00:27:30 honestly man and how do you fit into this little ass car man what is this what is this 77 C3 Corvette That, man. Ain't no way in it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:41 So, again, you got to, like, put the seat all the way back. It's a custom seat that I'm putting in that thing and then I got the teetop, bro. Yeah. So you ain't got no backseat, basically. Yeah, there ain't, no, there's no backseat in the C3. Okay, okay, okay. You drive it? Yeah, I'm restoring it now.
Starting point is 00:27:56 I ain't driven that thing like a year and a half. Because he can't, he can't get under the day. Like, yeah. What you got restoring it? Yeah, I'm restoring. Me, I restore it myself. Really? You're a mechanic, too?
Starting point is 00:28:05 Yeah. You're a mechanic, wow. Come on, Jermaine, now. I don't believe all of this. Yeah, yeah, seriously. Yeah, I've been resorted myself, man. I didn't rebuild the whole front-in already. I got all the break-in.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I got all new brace on that thing. Yeah, I'm resorted the whole thing. I was going to recommend somebody to you, but... I do it all myself, man. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Combo said this is a governor in Spanish. What?
Starting point is 00:28:33 Don't worry about it. Yeah, gubernator. Oh, gubernant? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They don't know. They don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:41 I speak Spanish. Yeah. I speak it to, you know. She married a Mexican a year ago. Now I was talking about it. Speaking of which, are you worried about ICE in South Carolina? Man, listen, ICE, the issue that I have, so I don't have a problem with ICE. I have a problem with what they're doing and how they're implementing it right now.
Starting point is 00:28:59 So they are, they're like literally, they're just looking for anybody who looks Spanish. Crazy. Anybody who looks like that or anybody who has a name like that, that. That's who they're attacking. Like, that's who they're going at. And because that's the issue, that is my problem. I mean, there's clearly a better way that we can do, you know, to look at this immigration issue. I mean, there's way we can do amnesty.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I mean, we have amnesty for everything else. Like, you know, encourage people to come forward to say, hey, listen, we're going to do this. We're going to put you on probation for three years. We're going to have you pay taxes. We're going to do this type of stuff. And then, you know, the people who don't come forward, those are the people you go after. You know, I mean, we do some stuff. like that but incentivize people to come forward man well wouldn't you be scared to
Starting point is 00:29:42 come forward at a time like this of course I would because we ain't got my amnesty day I mean I mean we don't we're not incentivizing anybody to do it like why would I trust government that's all if I was you know even if that was to happen why would I trust government listen but why I mean why do black people trust government right now I mean you know it's a whole it's a whole bunch of stuff man but we got to start somewhere yeah all right well he's running for governor of South Carolina make sure you get out there and vote and support him How can people donate if they want to donate?
Starting point is 00:30:09 How can they donate? Man, listen, I need everybody to go to JohnsonforS-S-C.com. J-O-H-N-S-O-N-F-R-S-C dot com. We've got to raise some money, y'all. You know, y'all know that as a black guy running for governor of South Carolina, being the second nominee in the history of South Carolina, we need to raise as much money as possible. I mean, honestly, y'all got over 6 million viewers right now, right,
Starting point is 00:30:32 at the Brevis Club. My bad, see, eight, so there you go. See what I'm saying? if all 8 million people just gave a dollar, we would have more than enough money to become Governor of South Carolina. But listen, we need $5, $10, $20. This is a real grassroots movement,
Starting point is 00:30:46 and we want to go grassroots to grassroots funded. And that's just for radio. That don't count like the YouTube and the podcast. We'll get them all to give a dollar, man. Get them all to give $20, yeah, yeah. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club
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