The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Jeymes Samuel Discusses 'The Book of Clarence' Movie, Cast, Reveals Soundtrack Features + More

Episode Date: January 10, 2024

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guts peace to the guts peace black man how are you i'm good king i'm good i'm good i'm good it's it's about time you know i mean absolutely happy to have you man you got a new movie i called the book of clarence but before we get to the book of clarence we just got to talk about you you know james samuel you know y'all i'm sure you've seen the heart of the fall that was your first film right yeah that's the first the debut film okay yeah so give us a little backstory what's the james samuel origin man you know how'd you become this superhero you know it's you know how superheroes are we were born superheroes you know people like us we didn't fall into no pit we were we were born it but i was just a guy that was always instruments in the house there were there was always i always

had cameras and i was always doing two things right so it's not really what made me like fall into film from music or fall into music from film it's really what made me not stop being me the older you get the more i always say you're taught to level down right as a kid the sky's the limit right as a as as an elder don't count your chickens before they hatch so you just have to kind of work out a way to hold on to yourself to never to never grow up and continue doing the things that just make you you so i continue doing music to the point where i was working with jay electronica and tori amos and all of these people. And I continued doing film. And I was just doing both of them myself, funding wherever I can.

Then I made a short film in 2012 called They Die By Dawn. It was a Western. It was like a proof of concept for The Heart of They Fall. Starring Erykah Badu, Rosario Dawson, Giancarlo Esposito, Michael K. Williams, Harry Lennox, Nate Parker. Basically, I was just going to people's house and I put them in it. I did all the music for it. Then me and Jay did the music for the, me and Jay-Z did the music for the Great Gatsby. And from there I just pivoted

into The Heart of Day 4. You know The Heart of Day 4 took like 15 years to make. Right? And everyone telling you it's never going to happen. It's too big. You can't do that for your first movie. Your first movie should be like 1 million or 2 million. There was a guy called Andrea Ievolino. He said to me, he said, James, do you know this movie is too big. He's telling me it's too big. It's too big. Take 5 million.

Do something small. And if that's successful, I give you more. You know, when I drove by the fork in the road and went straight, I looked at this guy alright shall I take that five mil nah man

my first movie is The Harder They Fall I have to tell people that one in four cowboys was black the name cowboy came from us

they call us cowboys white people were called cowhands I just had a mission with that movie and I just I never took it

and I went straight and I made the hard of the fall literally a couple of years, a couple of years later, I made the hard of the fall for $90 million budget. Wow. Right. A $90 million budget, my debut movie. So, so, you know, I'm, I'm physical, I'm the physical, physical personification of the fact that you can fly like it's, it's in us.

And when you're, when you're on a mission when you have something to say people are always going to tell you not to say it you know i mean they're always going to tell you not say it'll come out with reasons why you shouldn't say it but you have to say it man you have to stand by your guns you're an artist you have something to say you have to you know you have to keep keep keep the fight alive and also we're gods you know what i mean we're gods man i watched i watched django and good movie we're called niggas a hundred and 110 times in a in a two-hour space we ain't niggas man we're gods you shall address us as such so for me it was just it was just uh uh that's probably the origin the origin story well hold on, before you do that,

how did so many people open their arms to you? Because you mentioned Jay Electronica, Michael K. Williams, Erykah Badu, Jay-Z. How did so many people open up their arms to you and be like, come on, brother, let's do this together? Or how was that? You know, before Mike Tyson beat the brakes off... Which one? He beat the brakes off a lot of people.

Frank Bruno in England. I'm English, so that one was like... We still wanted Tyson to win, though, because, you know, it's Tyson. Which one? He beat and breaks up a lot of people. Okay. Frank Bruno in England. I'm English. That one was like, we still wanted Tyson to win though. Cause you know, it's Tyson. He said, I think on Larry King, Allah forgive me for being so vain, but I'm the best at what I do.

Envy. Allah forgive me for being so vain. I'm the best at what I do. I'm literally a once in a lifetime comet. Like no one does. I compose the score. I write and produce every single song on the soundtrack. Unless someone's rapping.

I write and produce every single song on the soundtrack. And also I believe that great artists want to make great art. So when I sit in front of you and I tell you, look, we've never had a movie like this before, ever. Like the book of Clarence in 136 years of the moving image, two black people have never been on screen and gone, there's Jesus. We've never had a movie like that before. So when I sit in front of you and I explain to you my intention and the reason why I want to make what I make and I have to make what I make. I'm kind of fortunate and that I'm able to explain it and that the person I'm

talking to is able to hold onto it. And then we just go forward and, and, and create history. What was your first love? Was it music or film? It was both of them. I think Charlemagne, as a kid, well, as a kid, you know, we're black, right? So music is just all around us all the time. So I don't even know if that's, that's a good question. I don't even know if that's a, that was a first love. That's almost like we're-

It's like breathing, it's an organ, it's us. Thank you. That's what we're born into, right? Where are you from? South Carolina. South Carolina, right? So you're born into, especially South Carolina, you're born into music. You didn't have a choice to become DJ Envy it's not like you could DJ Envy was DJ Envy as long as we've been listening to New York mixtapes and okay

we're just born into music but we were fed film and as a kid I was just addicted to addicted to the screen so I think I was always playing instruments, because the instruments around, and I was just addicted to the screen. I had to make whatever it was I had to make. You know what I mean? I think another thing that we're born into, which is probably why we do end up having such a love for music and film, is black people love storytelling yes any way we can tell our story we tend to gravitate towards what's the best vehicle to tell our story exactly exactly like we love we love storytelling and i think because we've had so much taken away from us

charlamagne we've had so much um we have so much barriers put in front of us like we could do this but we can't we can't do that so we like to we like to dream but then there's people like us that that show that then they're not actually dreams you know i i was saying that i believe like uh a few hundred years ago someone changed the word plans aims and intentions into dreams and the moment we embrace that word dream we embrace the word failure that's my dream car my dream house my dream job my dream you show me a dream I'll show you a person who who's gonna fail you know you can't chase a dream you're sleeping when you have them but these aims these plans these intentions we're awake when we have them right we're awake man i want to i want to be the number one i'm speaking to a best-selling

author i remember i remember uh uh uh back in the day you you'll be watching the breakfast club before podcasts as your best tv show and you're like isn't this a radio show but you'll be watching it every day as a tv show right all of the of the things you, all of the grounds you travel and all of the barriers you break, none of them are dreams. They're aims, they're plans, they're intentions. All of these things are real. But, you know, being black, we're constantly told

we can't have them, we can't attain them and we can't do them. Me and Hov speak about this all the time and for that reason i have to tell the type of um uh stories like we love for that reason we love storytelling and and doubling down on it i have to tell the type of stories that i want to tell i want to take us to places that we've never been i took you to the old west and i take you to the new testament now let's talk about the book of Clarence. This comes out this week, the 12th.

Yeah. Now with this movie, did you have any reservations? Because, you know, people are so, when you talk about religious movies or biblical times or whatever, people are so animated, have so many questions,

and will complain to, I don't even know what's up especially with this movie but last for me blasphemy at the teaser 60 second teaser we drop a 60 second teaser and everyone says blasphemy envy matthew 24 5 jesus's exact words are many shall come in my name saying i am the christ and they shall deceive many the bible itself speaks of simon the sorcerer who was trying to pay his way into the apostles the bible itself speaks of simon the sorcerer in jesus's lifetime in his 33 years of being on the planet there was two to three hundred people coming and saying that they're the messiah you only have to do a google check now i knew people would um be saying that when they when they look at the teaser we

released a longer trailer and it was less right but now when you say blasphemy you have to stand on it i want to know why you're saying blasphemy is it because you're seeing people of color and if i'm speaking to a person of color i'm gonna ask a deep question when you look at the trailer for because you haven't seen the movie when you look at the trailer for the book of clarence and you're yelling blasphemy one do you actually read the book you profess to know so much about two and this is to all black people that yell yelling blasphemy are you saying blasphemy because you see yourself in that place and time? Because I'm showing people in that place and time as the same color as you?

We are so trained to dismiss anything we see as either blasphemy or in this day and age is the illuminati that's right i always tell people it's a crazy thing right you never hear two white people go spielberg and george lucas are the illuminati yeah yeah you know you hear black people go jay-z rihanna and really like really the illuminati is that what we're doing as soon as we accomplish as soon as we accomplish something so for me i'm like I never had any reservations at all. I don't create art in fear. I never had any reservations at all. And the fact that people are yelling blasphemy is exactly why I had to tell this story.

Clarence is about an everyman. It's about you and I, right? Who believes he can do anything, right? But in this belief, he finds himself, you know, in trouble with a village terror, and he ends up on a road of self-discovery and ultimately redemption and faith. It's a beautiful story. Yeah, I don't think it downplays faith at all.

I think it examines the motivation behind our faith. Thank you, brother. Yeah. Thank you. That's exactly what it does. Like, if we were born, if we came about today, I have a nine-year-old son. Let me sit this guy down and try and tell him, explain to him about, you know, the virgin birth and all of this stuff. He would look at me with disbelief at first.

You have to convince kids that Santa Claus exists. You have to tell them that from when they're a baby. You can't start from when they're 10, right? So, and it's, you know, another interesting thing is when you have all of these people that yell blasphemy, I like to say like, Jesus had 12 apostles. He didn't have

7 billion where were all you guys when Jesus was around Jesus had 12 apostles and probably the 60 or 70 people

or a couple hundred people he was preaching to when he was doing the sermons on the mount but they arrested Jesus right and then the Romans the Romans arrested him

and the Romans killed him, right? They crucified him. Where were all these choruses of supporters? If Jesus came around today, people would be yelling blasphemy. That's right. He'd be arrested and crucified all over again. So before you yell blasphemy, just dig in. Research.

Don't condemn something before you've seen it. But I don't even mind that you do that because the Book of Clarence is a classic. Yeah, it's a fantastic movie and it's going to be a discussion piece regardless. What you just said about Matthew 24, 5, that was a debate me and my wife was having this weekend and that was a debate we were actually having this morning.

It's like, who exactly was Jesus in the film? You know, and maybe this is just me being- Why your face look like that? He don't look like he don't want to tell you. We were arguing this morning about it. Yeah, but maybe I'm just being a little fake deep. What I took from it was everybody's God. We should recognize everybody as God.

But the most important thing is recognizing God in yourself. Recognizing God in yourself, Charlemagne. All of us have that walk on water moment. Even though Jesus is in the film, right? And he's clear and he's in the film. And I go through- I don't know if it's as clear as you thought it was, because me and him was arguing this morning about this.

My wife got it, I think. Yeah, yeah. See? So it was super clear. But Charlemagne's wife got it here's the thing and envy you know envy loves an argument every love is a debate so but there is a god in yourself and that's super important man like when we see each other's peace to the god it's peace to the god like It's peace to the God. Like there's a God in yourself. And that's like the most important thing

because not everyone that's gonna watch this film is a Christian. Not everyone's gonna watch it. You know, like when people champion their religions, but I find everyone to be a disbeliever of some sort. If I'm speaking to a Christian, okay, so you disbelieve in all the other religions on the planet. You just believe in yours, right?

But whatever your belief is, God is inside you. Whatever your belief is, even if you have no faith, God is inside you. And I want people to take that away from this movie. So what you took away from it for me is a beautiful thing. It's a job well done. Because it's the first movie of its kind in 136 years of the moving image, right? It's a,

it's a really beautiful thing. And you know me, Charlemagne, like I'm always excited about what I do. Filmmakers are, are almost like it's politically incorrect to say my movies were wicked. Like Christopher Nolan, you watch a Christopher Nolan interview,

you'll sleep by the end of it. Even though his movies are wicked. Like Christopher Nolan, you watch a Christopher Nolan interview, you'll sleep by the end of it. Even though his movies are amazing. But the interviews are, whereas I'm not that guy. The Book of Clarence is an amazing film. We've never seen anything like it. It's easy to critique something when it's done. But watch it first and celebrate cinema.

Amazing film. And I know people will have uh reservations at first because it is a biblical movie i mean even myself i had when i first and i'm like oh here we go i didn't i wasn't excited until i seen it and when i seen it i was super duper excited i was kind of mad that i i was seeing it on my phone and laptop at first so i want to see it this friday when it comes to the theaters lakeith stanfield perfect actor for the part. Perfect. It was, it was to the, what made you find him

and what made you say he's the perfect person? He played that, I don't, I don't think there's anybody that could have played it better. Thank you, Envy. Here's what happened, right?

I wrote Clarence. I had no idea that I can cast it. And I was casting for the heart of day four. And Lakeith came on the phone and I was in Mexico. And during the call, he got a call from his cousin and he got worried taking her back so you know he's

speaking to a director and he's in a particular mode then he's like yo it's my cousin man I got I got it I gotta go take this call somebody probably got shot in the hood he ran through all these he ran through like a soliloquy of happenings. Things that can happen to you. Put down the phone. And when he put down the phone, I called my sister. Tanya, Tanya, I found Clarence.

She's like, what? I found Clarence, Tanya. This guy has got every single emotion that Clarence has. Because Clarence, we don't want to talk about the ending, but Clarence goes through every single emotion that Clarence has. Because Clarence, we don't want to talk about the ending, but Clarence goes through every single emotion that you possibly can go through in that environment.

And he just possesses everything. Then he came to set to play Cherokee Bill in the heart of A4. I was like, this is it. It's him. So on the last day when we wrapped, I hugged him. I was like, yo, yo, don't go too far though. I'm coming back.

There's something else. And as soon as we finished with The Heart of They Fall, I went straight back. I went straight into the Booker Clancy. If he didn't want to do the film, I would have shot something else. Wow. It was him.

It was him. And I think I'm really dope at finding actors and working with people that, It was him. And I think I'm really dope at finding actors and, you know, like, you know, working with people like Dion Cole in The Heart of Day 4. I gave him the grill and people have never seen Dion Cole. You cast an Old Spice guy?

I'm from London. I've never seen Old Spice. I just know that this guy is perfect for this role. And Lakeith, man, he's just... He killed it, man. He kills it. He kills it. It's a real tour de force of a performance.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, Clarence says at one point in the movie knowledge is stronger than belief and it made me wonder could that distinction of knowledge and belief

did that influence his pursuit of the truth yeah absolutely you know the first time he says it he says it to the apostles because you know

how we are Charlemagne we grew up and our friends are religious at first. And before we adopt any faith, whether it's Christianity, Muslim 5%, whatever we adopt, at first we're looking at our friends and we're questioning them.

Like some of them were telling me, don't drink alcohol while they're smoking a cigarette. Right? Like, man, you believe in God. If you knew there was a God, you would not, don't be telling me that cigarettes aren't haram. If you knew there was a God, like knowledge is stronger than belief.

It's Clarence's whole ethos. And you know, that's a motif that I've thought throughout my life. I remember, again, Mike Tyson fighting Michael Spinks in that 91 second massacre. The crazy thing wasn't the massacre in 91 seconds, it was what Tyson done when he walked back to his corner. He just turns around and puts up his hands like, he knew he was gonna win. Michael Spinks believed he could win like knowledge is stronger than than belief what happens is we have we embark on faith right and we have belief in something and then something

happens in our lives and it turns that belief into knowledge like now i know god exists because you can't explain this stuff that happened you can't explain the majesty of what we've just been through you can't explain how i just hold three shots close. You can't explain how I just, oh, three shots close range. You can't explain how I got out of this. I know God exists, right? So it goes from knowledge to belief. And the beautiful thing is, that's our journey with Clarence, right?

He doesn't have any belief and we watch him acquire the knowledge. We watch him garner faith. I think it's a really important film also. I got to ask you something else, but you made me think about something. Why are you so inspired by Brooklyn people? You referenced Mike Tyson a lot.

We know the relationship with, oh, why? You know what? I'll say this. I've never even thought of that before. I'm inspired by by humans I don't necessarily regard myself as as

as I'm English right I was born in England yeah yeah but the whole planet is mine you know what I mean yeah

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Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey y'all, Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop.

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and the secrets we keep from ourselves. Listen to Season 11 of Family Secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 65 days for the earth to roll around the sun, and the sun, a certain amount of light years to revolve around the black hole and the Sun's only like two years old in that in that regard and it was speaking about the ever-expansive solar

system the ever-expansive solar system ever-expansive solar system peep this they said it shows how relevant we are right we think you know we're the center of the universe going to our mundane jobs and our thing and worrying about our mundane problems and when you think of the ever-expanding solar system this is all relevant i look to that like i can prove to you right now why you're wrong my brother because you are the same scientist that tells me there's no life after this there's no hereafter okay envy charlemagne if there is no hereafter that means for everything you said about the ever-expansive solar system it all stops right now if i die everything you said is irrelevant if I die. Everything you said is irrelevant, if I die. Therefore,

the center of the solar system is to every single living organism. If you are alive and you are a living organism, you are the center of the solar system because it doesn't exist without you being alive. The solar system can't exist without me being alive

for it to do so. Right? We are the center and i honestly believe like i always say every morning when i open my eyes god says action if you see life like that you'll see yourself as much more than people continuously tell you you are you know i mean so it makes me wonder right when you talk about clarence Clarence saw Jesus early on in the movie and Clarence said I want I want that mmm what now yeah but what was the that was did that be attention was did that the the knowledge of self the truth like what was it the finance or was it the most clout the Clarence sees Jesus

coming up with the 12 apostles protected people in the street clamoring around him and Clarence saw all the materialistic stuff

which a lot of these preachers around today see a lot of preachers today see the Bible

as opportunity right as opportunity a mass humongous amounts of wealth so clarence is in is in the town square with his best friend elijah he's walking he sees jesus coming in and everyone clamoring around him and he's like look and they're protected no one messes with them no one messes with him and and elijah like, I want to be like that in 10 years. I want that kind of presence. I want that now. So at first he wanted all of the wrong things.

All of the wrong things. And he ventures down this road. And that's when it becomes like DMX in belly to me. Because remember in... Exactly. Okay. Exactly. He was told to kill, kill yeah but but on that journey of pretending self-discovery and redemption you

know and that happens to all of us that's right we can't tell a story like this and we'd be so dare i say ignorant as to holla blasphemy as soon as you see a tale what should we just tell stories of jesus jesus's life you know i mean like we have to we have to uh firstly i believe that we belong in those days right but we also have to be able to to look at the 360 degree um element of of okay okay, here's, here's Jesus. But what was all of the things around it, especially in that day and time? Like,

why is it? Why is it? We've never seen ourselves in that day and time in a, in a movie ever in the history of the moving image. I got to ask a question. You might not want to answer me. You might want to tell me off screen. The homeless person. Don't give away any spoilers though. Okay. All right. Forget it. Okay. You might not want to answer me. You might want to tell me off screen. The homeless person. Don't give away any spoilers, dog.

All right, forget it then. You just proved me wrong. I was wrong. You just proved me wrong. I don't know if you were wrong, but he should win an Oscar for this or at least be nominated. Thank you, Charlemagne. He is now.

He don't just play Clarence. He plays his twin brother, Thomas. And Thomas, in the Bible, was a twin. Here's the thing that is because you know it's interesting like people don't read the bible that much they they speak about thomas was a twin right his name didymus meant twin so we're calling him twin all the time but no one ever speaks about whether he had a twin brother or the bible doesn't speak about whether he had a twin brother or twin sister. Right. Right.

He just, just a twin. So we didn't even, we know him as Doughton Thomas. We didn't even know he was a twin, but he's actually a twin. So the, so the book of Clarence is like my depiction of Thomas's twin brother. Where did you shoot it? Where did you shoot it? Did he, did you have him play Thomas to highlight the polarities within ourselves? Yeah, my brother.

Okay. Exactly. Okay. Right? And the conflicts that we have within ourselves. And also, you know, just being, growing up the way we all grew up, right? Like, we weren't with Charlemagne in South Carolina, but we were with you. And we were watching you for years.

Right? So, so we all grew up the same and we have these internal conflicts and internal struggles all the time between doing right and doing good. And also what is actually right? And what is, what is good? Should I stand and fight or shall I walk away from this one?

Right? So, so Thomas shows, shows that that polarity but I'm glad you said like Lakeith what you said about the Keith's performance because it's a man I think it was incredible it was hands down it made me believe every aspect of every character he played whether it was his brother whether it was him at the club or whether it was him whether he was facing whether it was trials and tribulations the love scene it made me believe yeah to the point where you ever see a movie but like there's no other person that could have played that part

that's what I felt like with that yeah and you know me and the kids had our little petty issues back and forth in this game right but it's just like he is serious enough but also comedic enough to pull off what you did absolutely in this film yeah that that makes sense. Yeah, exactly. Like he has all of the, all of the, I'm looking at Envy looking all smooth. I'm like, let me just touch my face. Envy's looking too smooth over there.

I don't even look further, off camera Envy said, I noticed you don't have no light skin dudes in there. I said no light skin brothers. Charlamagne goes, that's why I loved it. There was not one light skin brother. I was like damn, no light skin brothersinned brothers. Charlamagne goes, that's why I loved it. That is why I loved it. There was that one light-skinned brother, and I was like, damn, there was no light-skinned brothers in biblical times?

They came later. My wife had a question. She was like, what was the logic behind having Mary Magdalene at the Last Supper but then covering her up? Yeah. Well, she was, you know, like, I just think I wanted to have a Last Supper that depicted Mary Magdalene because Mary Magdalene was, was around Jesus a lot.

Absolutely. And Jesus was the one person that knew, he was the only person that knew that that was the Last Supper. So I just thought, well, Jesus may have Mary, Jesus may have Mary there, right? You know, he might not, but he may have Mary there. And also, I think that Last Supper scene, for me, is really important because usually when they show Judas, they never ever give gradients to Judas. Judas is just known as the man that betrayed Jesus.

But Judas was chosen to be one of the apostles. We wouldn't have been. Well, maybe we would have, but I don't think I would have made it into the apostle gang. The fact that Judas was there,

Judas was probably a good guy that had done one bad thing. It's not like he had a history of evil, right? to I wanted to show his his Possible reasons for doing what he did. Interesting because I always say you shouldn't judge people Based off what they do when they're in survival mode But what about when you do something as heinous as Judas? Wow, I wanted to show like why he was doing these But what about when you do something as heinous as Judas? As Judas. Wow.

So I wanted to show why he was doing this. He says in the film, we're revolutionaries. We're not pacifists. Why are we fighting? Just shows frustrations. Played excellently by Michael Ward from Top Boy. And also, just to have these English actors with these American actors. It's just an amazing thing, man. I was going to ask, you know, I asked earlier, where did you shoot that?

Because when I watch movies now, I watch it from a different lens, right? I watch it for the movie lens, but I also watch everything around it, right? And I'm looking at how real it looks and the time it must take and set directly. Where did you shoot that? I shot in a Matera in Italy. It's like the fourth oldest inhabited city in the world. It's thousands of years old. The caves are still there from when they were living in caves.

And you could do an aerial 360 and still be in ancient Jerusalem. Mel Gibson shot Passion of the Christ there. And No Time to Die, the last James Bond movie. The opening was shot there. But the city's so amazing. I just knew that if I have black people ascend on this town, it's just going to look like something we've never seen before. Do you ever have to take something out of a movie because your mind goes too far?

Like, do you ever have to say, James, man, I can't do that. I mean, just from the horse racing to everything that you had in that flick, movie because your mind goes too far like do we have to say james when i can't do that i mean just from the horse racing to everything that you had in that flick from caves and all that is there one thing they'd be like james we just can't do that no i mean not in this movie with the heart of they fall it was a couple couple times where people were like okay james you can't do this or you can't do that but i never never take it out. No way. Okay, in the beginning of The Harder They Fall, they have a shootout in a canyon, right,

with a Crimson Hood gang. They're all in pink hoods. And the guy kills a horse. Bang. They're like, you can't kill a fake horse, James. You can't kill a fake horse. You can't kill a fake horse. I was like, what?

It's a fake horse. No, but James, you can't do that. I was like, with all the movies I've seen with horses, get murked. Get stabbed, shot, everything. You can't kill a horse? Watch this. They James, you can't do that. I was like, with all the movies I've seen with horses, get murked. Get stabbed, shot, everything. You can't kill a horse? Watch this. They said, no.

I said, really? But Tarantino could decapitate black peoples. I'm just saying, like with the N word, over a hundred times in one movie, you get upset when I kill a fake horse. That fake horse is going to get murked twice. And I'm leaving it in there. Or then stop them from doing that. Because I'm more offended

at being called the N-word a billion times than a fake horse. No horses were harmed during the holiday fall. So there is, and I left it in there. So there is things that sometimes you kind of bump up against. But as a creator, I create from a good place. And also, I think my track record shows that the art that I give the world, they're not getting from anyone else. So therefore, man, you're welcome.

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that are kept from us the secrets we keep from others and the secrets we keep from ourselves listen to season 11 of family secrets on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts uh i got a bunch more questions but i don't want to give away that's the problem so many questions you have that's why we have to do this again yeah after yes i would say based on just subject matter because you did mention passionate of christ how would you say the book of clarence differs from the passion of the christ well the passion of christ is the story of jesus right of his last days the book of clarence isn't the story of jesus at all is it not though that's what we

wonder is it not is i like that you say it because you've seen it right you've seen it so it's probably the story of the god in us right but what i wanted to do with the book of clarence was make a movie that resembled the environment that i grew up in you know growing up i watched ben-hur the ten commandments quoth vardis samson and delilah the rogue the greatest story ever that resembled the environment that I grew up in. You know, growing up, I watched Ben-Hur, The Ten Commandments, Quo Vadis, Samson and Delilah, The Rogue, The Greatest Story Ever Told. But I never know no one that looks like Yul Brynner as the pharaoh in Egypt.

I never know no one that looks like Charlton Heston. You know, Charlton Heston had a brutal kind of, good looking dude, but brutal kind of face. When he says, get your paws off me, you damn dirty ape. You can see the apes be like, wow, you're being really racist. We were just capturing you. You're actually taking it to new levels.

I never related to what they were showing me, even though we were familiar with some of the stories, I never related to the depiction of those stories or those people in those stories. So I wanted to shoot, to tell a story of the environment that I grew up in. Charlemagne's name is Charlemagne the God. It's from the hood in South Carolina.

Like we grew up with gods, like peace, peace to the God, peace to the God. That's how we grew up. I wanted to tell that story, but transpose it 2000 years prior to show how little times have changed and how much in common we have with that era. So it's really the story, the book of Clarence is really the story of an everyman, right?

An everyman who finds faith, finds redemption. Whereas the Passion of Christ is a story of Jesus per se. It's like pages taken from the Bible. These are more like pages added. Yours could be the real story because it's like we all know Jesus was black, right? And they would never tell us if he really was. We know how to colonize the works. So how do we know the book of Clarence isn't the actual story of Jesus?

Well, people saw that story and said no no no this is going to be the image of it though just for everyone at home Charlemagne said that I didn't I'm like for the record

no Charlemagne you're absolutely wrong but but I mean you know you know those ones if the celluloid shoe fits the book of Clarence

I mean it's a it's a layered film and you score everything yourself say you score everything yourself i do the entire score i compose the entire score myself that's your song at the end yeah i write and produce every single song in the soundtrack and i write produce and perform unlike the uh hard way four where i did a uh slew of uh various artists this one i did a slew of various artists this one I perform every song but with

various artists but the soundtrack is amazing the Harder Day 4 soundtrack won every award that wasn't racist and I think

the BET awards just got amnesia like you didn't even nominate the Harder Day 4 for nothing okay I don't make I don't make art

for hardware but the Book of Clarence soundtrack, which released Friday, same day as the movie, is the hardest soundtrack on the planet. It's like, myself, I got D'Angelo and Jay-Z on the same track. How did that happen?

You gotta break that down. How did that happen? Why are they 10 minutes? Nine minutes. Nine minutes, 33 seconds, because it's just biblical soulful bliss. You remember them joints? I was like, I'm not doing a radio edit for this joint.

Thanks James. I'm gonna have to do it myself, forget it. Thank you bro. Friday I'm gonna have to do it. Give me the DJ Envy edit. It's just that good. How long is Jay-Z's verse if the song is nine minutes? Jay-Z's, it's not one of those ones like God did.

Okay, okay, okay. He's like spoken, speaking on it. He's not like rapping. Okay. He's not rhyming. He's like, he's just talking on it like a, he just comes in and floats and D'Angelo goes in. So it's just that good.

George Ben-Jur on the soundtrack, 84 years old. He's the guy that sings, Doja Cat on the soundtrack on the same song as Kodak Black. Wow. And they go in. Charlamagne, they go in. I love both of them. Kodak goes in. Charlamagne, they go in. I love both of them. Kodak goes in.

Wow. Doja goes in. Like the soundtrack, here's the thing. I'm so glad I'm saying this on The Breakfast Club, man. No matter how dope a director is

and a composer is, Sergio Leone and Ennio Morricone, Steven Spielberg and John Williams, right? Alfred Hitchcock, Bernard Herrmann whoever it is there's always a handoff

like filmmaking is handing the baton to like okay I've directed a film you hand the baton to the composer as a James I can always feel the handoff where the director stops and the composer starts I can always feel it

no matter how beautifully in sync they are I can always feel it when you're watching a James film you'll hear

the the Nat Love you'll see Nat Love riding his horse to Barrington Levy an original Barrington Levy song right

do do do do do do do jink jink he'll get off his horse and walk into a saloon and that song to Barrington Levy, an original Barrington Levy song, right? And I write the songs as I'm writing the script. So the songs speak to the score and speak to directly what's happening in the scene. So there's no handoff. You can't feel any handoff. Everything is kind of one continuous wave, so to speak. And it's a beautiful thing to create like that. And that's why I always compose my scores. I just hear things. Different.

Yeah, I just hear things differently. I hear like you'll be saying something, I'll hear the melody in it and I'll take that melody and make it in songs but songs aren't composers don't write around speech

but I'll take your speech pattern the first time you see the hobo right the first time you see the hobo when he talks every word he says there's a flute

playing over his voice but you don't necessarily get that but with james samuel film you get that you get one continuous uh uh wave between your visual and your sonics i always say that i see i see uh music and i hear film you took black people to the old west you took black people to the new testament where You took black people to the new testament. Where are you taking us next? What's next? I don't know. Well I know what we're doing next is I've kind of held it under my hat.

But eventually though we have to go to space. We have to. We have to go to space. I'll go to all the genres. All the genres and I have something like modern day, which is absolutely crazy. But eventually we have to go to space.

Like we deserve to be in these places. I also think that, you know, as a kid, we were given all the genres, but we were never given black people in them. That's real. We're never given black people in them. That's real. We're never given black people in them. That's real. Like, imagine the road that you walked

to end up in Charlemagne the God, having never seen no visual reference in entertainment that you are that. You know what I mean? Like, you never see no visual reference. reference in entertainment that you are that. You know what I mean? Like you never see no visual reference saying Charlemagne's I'm a god. You never seen it, we've never had it. So you would have to go through all the learnings

and all the spiritual growth that you've been through to get to that place. Take elements from everything, 5% teachings, hip hop, everything. Everything. But the one thing we didn't get, like when people talk about, where did you first see black people in the old west? Marley Marl.

Symphony. First time I saw black people in the old west. Kumo D's Wild Wild West. First time I seen black people in the old, in the old west. That's the only reference I had. Because before then, even if you show me Buck and the Preacher with Sidney Pottier and Harry, Harry Belafonte, it's like two,

one black cowboy and white overseers. Everything always involved white overseers and a couple of blacks. Like we just never had it. We never had it. We never seen black people in the Bible days. Wow. Well, I'm excited for you guys to go out and check out this movie. Yeah, man.

This is one of them ones you got to go to the theaters and see. You got to go see it. It's not too many films that get me out the house to want to go sit in a movie theater. This is one of them ones you got to go sit and watch in the movie theater. You have to. You got to, man. You have to. It's a pleasure being on The Breakfast Club and speaking to this,

to the audience that you've amassed over the years and telling them about the book Clarence, man. This is the first movie of its kind ever, literally ever. So before you holler blasphemy, really just watch the film first. It doesn't blaspheme you know really it really respects respects faith you're not going to come out this movie questioning your faith

if you're a non-believer you may come out this movie questioning your non-belief yeah you know i mean i may come out this movie questioning your non-belief but that's right you know it's a beautiful film and it's a film that we all have to have to i think watch it's the first movie that everyone can recognize the environment even if you're white you can recognize this environment it's an environment you drive by every day that's right whatever you know whatever color you are it's a movie that most importantly we deserve we deserve this film you know i mean so well the book of Clarence comes out this Friday, January 12th. James Samuel, we appreciate you for joining us, brother. I appreciate you for having me.

Charlemagne, the black god. Oh, we love. Black god. Beige god. I'm black. There's no beige. I'm black. I'm fully black.

But I promise you, M.V., in the next installment, I'll make things a little darker. Get light skin, brother. I just want to shout out to you. A little light skin, brother. That's all. But you know the crazy thing? I'll make things a little darker you know the crazy thing I'll say this Jesus is kind of you know he's played by Nicholas Pinnock in this movie and and a dope actor and I know Nicholas well from London I know Nicholas from from from road and I didn't want to cost Nicholas I was gonna cost him something up one of the other apostles and he came and he just read for Jesus and he was just kind of... Don't say no more.

Yeah. Hold on, so Benedict Cumberbatch wasn't Jesus? Hey, hey, hey, hey. I'm going to kill this dude. Now we got to have a conversation with you now. I'm good.

All right. Too bad you guys are not going to be here for this conversation, but you know, you got to come back up when we can talk about it in depth. All right, it's The Breakfast Club.

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