The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: John Leguizamo Talks 'Dear Killer Nannies,' ICE, Trump Administration, Bad Bunny Super Bowl, New Exorcist Movie, Hollywood + More

Episode Date: April 1, 2026

Today on The breakfast Club, John Leguizamo Talks 'Dear Killer Nannies,' ICE, Trump Administration, Bad Bunny Super Bowl, New Exorcist Movie, Hollywood. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You're all finished or y'all done? Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV, Just Hilarious. Salameen de Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRose is here with us as well. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. John Legger Zamo.

How are you doing? I'm doing great. Leguizamo. Leguizamo. Leguizamo. Yeah, that's how I pronounce. That's not how you're supposed to say it. How are you supposed to say it?

Legissimo. Okay. But, you know, when teachers would get to that, my name, and they go, like, LeCubano, like, Legismo, like, Grissimo. I was like, you know, I'm just do it phonetically and shut them up. Okay. I was going to be laughing at me. I was like that.

My first name was Leonard, but the teachers would always say Leonard. Right. And so I would get tired of correcting them. So I was just like, man, just call me my middle name. My daddy's name, which is Larry. Larry, Larry. That'll just stop the nonsense. Because your first day of school, everybody starts laughing at you's not the way you want to start the year.

Correct. How are you? I'm great. I'm great to be here. This is exciting to be here, man. Man, happy to have you. That's right. And you're on Netflix now?

God damn. Yes. That's a big deal. Yes, change. How much? How much? How much? How much?

You tell us how much you made for dead nanny. No. Dead nanny. Because I don't like to brag, man. I don't like to brag. It's not cool. It's not cool. You know.

I mean, Disney pays well. It pays well. I'm not going to lie. Apple, Disney. Netflix doesn't pay well for actors anymore. I don't know about your show is a totally different thing. Licensing is different, right? I like the way he just threw it.

You know, license is a little different. Let's talk about dare-killer nannies. It premieres on the first, well, which is tomorrow. Yeah, yes. And it's about Pablo Escobar, but in a different light. Absolutely. Because, you know, everybody's done Pablo Escobar. Yeah, correct.

You know, and I guess, you know, like, white actors have to do like Hamlet and they all do it. Latin actors all have to do Pablo Escobar. To show who's the best because Javier Bidem did it. Beniceo Toro did it. Wagner Moore, who just got nominated for an Oscar, did it. So now it's my turn to do it. So everybody did good. Some didn't get the accent quite right.

A couple of them. I'm not going to name who. And some didn't get the gestures, the behavior. So I tried to do it all, man. I studied my ass off. I watched every tape, every recording he ever had. I read everything about him. I talked to his son,

gave me a lot of tips about how to play him. Nice. And things that happened, because the son was a consultant on this one for the first time ever. So we're seeing the inside of what happened and what was said at home. And that's what's exciting about this show.

Because you didn't know what was going on. Like the kind of fear that they lived under, even though he was, I guess, the wealthiest gangster that ever lived, $30 billion when he died. I guess that's $70 billion in today's $2026 money. So he's the wealthiest. But he still had to move homes,

sometimes stay away from the family, so he could be like a decoy away from them. The son tried to go to school, but the DA was after them, assassination attempts. The kids were afraid of him. So he had to be schooled at home by these trained assassin nannies,

and they became his friends, his family. And, you know, you can't, totally trust them because they're not really family. And some of them became informants. So Pablo had to off some of them. And then that was confusing to the son. That his dad was taking out some of the nannies that he loved. And so that's all in the series.

It's really wild. It's not about the drug part of it. It's more about the son growing up and how his father was a father. Exactly. Trying to be a father. You know, and you know, back then it was a tough love kind of love. But Pablo was the first guy in Colombia, maybe in all of Latin America. in the 80s, because it was a tough love kind of.

You raise your son being tough. You want to make him prepare for the world. He would say, I love you, kiss him, hug him in public, at home everywhere. And Colombian dad's weren't doing that. Obviously, Pablo knew that he might die, so that's why he was more affectionate. But, you know, because I hug and kiss my son and say,

I love you. But that's not how my dad treated me. My dad was like, every day I see you, you get more stupider than the last day. That was how my dad, you know, there was you back then. Did playing him in this series humanize him for you? We were trying not to humanize him and normalize him.

You know, we do show all the killings and the assassinations that he did. But we do show the parent's side. That was complicated because the son did call him out a lot of times. You know, what kind of life are we living? You're killing the nannies. You're killing some of my friends. are you going to kill my mom and she says the wrong thing to you

so the son does call him out in the show which is that that's the only part that you might feel kind of humanizing him a little bit I always wonder why why was he so willing to just kill people and let people know that he was killing him you would think that that would be something he would keep himself well I mean because he was he owned Colombia

you know he owned the whole country he owned the government he was bribing everybody his thing was plata or plomo So either you take the bribe or you get a bullet So that was your choice that he put to everybody And he took all, you know, he bombed a lot of Journalists, he bombed a lot of politicians He controlled a country basically

He told him that he would pay their debt If they let him take over completely Were you nervous or scared playing this part at all? You know, it's been years now No, now I'm not scared anymore I was just like What you mean anymore? Were you scared first?

You know, back in the day You couldn't do that Because, you know, who knows somebody might come after you. But now, I mean, it's years later, you know. What drew you to the role initially? To show up everybody that I could do it better than everybody else had done. And I think I did a crazy good job, man. There's one actor that might have beat me,

the Colombian actor who did a TV series about Pablo. He looked just exact like him. His accent was perfection, the gestures. I'm second, I think. But you judge for yourself. What is the role like this, the man from you emotionally? that other roles did? Well, this one, you know,

it was a lot of research that more than other roles where I could be myself or tap different parts of myself. Here I had to like reach to the level that you could play a Palo Escobar tape next to me and me and see that there's not that much difference, you know, that's what I was after. I saw that his son told the LA Times

that doing a movie like this is like his way to tell the truth and to kind of push back against the way that other movies has been. made the violence a spectacle. But how do you not make it a spectacle because he's so notorious and like you got to include all of that stuff? So like in the writing, how did they try and figure that out? Yeah, yeah, because we did still show all his violence, you know, all the assassination

attempts that he put on people and and the kind of life of paranoia that he lived. We kept that. But I think the difference in this is that you see what the family life was like at home with the wife and and with the kids. And how he was trying to be a loving dad, but his morality said the opposite message. You know, he just couldn't help it. I mean, we all mess up his parents, but our kids are going to hit us for something. But, I mean, he had extra, you know, he had all that having to move the kids from place to place,

having to stay away from them so that he wouldn't bring violence to the house. And eventually, you know, that kind of lifestyle always ends the way it always ends, you know. He got shot up. When you were talking to the sun, right, and I imagine the son had to relive all this and go down memory land. a lot. Was it ever emotional for him, do you think? Yeah, he got emotional, you know. Because he did love his dad.

You know, I guess he had a lot of words and some beef towards the end. But I guess you have to make up for that after your dad passes. You know, he changed his whole life. He moved to Argentina, changed his name, became a psychologist. I guess you would have to become a psychologist. That's kind of lifestyle. And he goes around the world

doing speeches about, you know, giving good, putting out good. That's amazing. So that's how he escaped the sins of the father. But even though he's done all of that, is there like traumas that he still deals with daily, even all these years later? You know, he definitely has to deal with,

I mean, the way they grew up and all that money that he didn't get. Because, you know, a lot of it was disappeared. It was never really discovered where a lot of that money went, but I think a lot of people robbed it and took it. especially law enforcement I'm sure Oh, of course They got a huge chunk of that And all his other comrades must have taken a piece

I wanted to know for for Colombians How did they view Pablo Because you know, did they love him Or was it just a fearful thing Or did they hate him? They hate him I mean I think Mostly the journalists and people

Who are law-abiding citizens Hate him But you know the people in the town They loved him Because he did all the right things you know, and he was representing them because, you know, Latin America, you know, it's 10% of the people run everything

and everybody else who lives in poverty, you know. So he was building stadiums, churches, you know, helping out, building schools. He did all the right things to make people love them. And he represented sort of the little man, the ordinary guy, the underdog, making it, making it big, busting out of this sort of world where if you're born into money,

you get the education, you get the best jobs, you know. And also, like, the more white-looking you are in Latin America, the more successful you are. And if you're more indigenous or Afro-Latino, it's a much tougher life. You know, all that colonists, colonialism, and conquest doesn't go away that easy, you know? How do you pivot between comedy, you know, doing dramas like this? Because I'm an amazing actor. Stuff like in Canto. You know what I mean?

Like, how do you pivot between all of that stuff? Because I'm an amazing actor, that's why. How can you do that? Yeah, you know, I love what I do, man. I love animated voices, like Enkanto and Kittes' Sloth. I love doing that. Plus, you know, the check is really nice, too. That's another Disney check, by the way, two Disney checks.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. You should license to Disney. Disney ain't no joke. I feel like I know Bruno. Like, we don't talk about Bruno. No, yes. But is it as effortless as you make it look?

Yeah, pretty much. You know, something, I, no, yeah, I mean, the, I do the voices easily, but the problem was a harder one, because, you know, English is my dominant language. So even though Spanish is my mother tongue, to get that right, I had to work really hard because I had a lot of pressure. I didn't want Colombians to be embarrassed by me that I messed up. You know, I messed up with that representation.

I didn't want to do that. But you know, you're just a great actor, period. Not a great Latino actor, right? Oh, thank you, bro. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Why do you think the industry still moves so slow when it comes to, I guess, just inclusion for Latino action?

Yeah, well, you know, obviously this administration doesn't make it easy. you know, deeming us DEI, you know, like we were, got to jobs because of our skin color or ethnicity. No, we got here because of our greater talent because to be a black or Latin talent, you have to be 10 times better than a white talent to get that job. That's right. It's not less talent. You have to have more talent. And then you still not selected for everything.

At Hollywood, you know, back in the day, they would be straight up. They would tell you to my face, you know. some producer came to me with doing Spawn and he said to me you know too bad you're Puerto Rican because if you weren't Puerto Rican you'd be such a big movie star but that was the reality of things

you know and then executives when you pitch them a story they will go you know that's really good and everything but you know we don't have to do Latin content because Latin people go to the movies no matter what they see they'd rather see white people

and I would go what you know they would tell you that to your face now they don't tell you anything they just you don't hear anything it's silent radio now Spahn you absolutely We killed that. That was one of my favorite movies. Oh, thank you.

Yeah. But when they told you that, what was going through your mind? Like, did that crush you in any way, discouraged you in any way at that point? No, that was a fact. That was a fact. I mean, that, back then in those days, you know, there was this thing called the Ross Report that would come out on Mondays. This is I'm talking about the 80s, ancient history. The Rush Report come out Monday to tell you every movie that was available, every role that was available.

And it was a little Jim Crow or Juan Crow. because that's what they called it for people. That was the real name. Juan Crow was what they called it for land people in the Southwest because there was Jim Crow laws against us as well. We weren't allowed to go to churches, parks, movies. You couldn't eat with white people or go in the pool when white people went back in those days

in the 1800s and before that. So this Russell report would come out and would say white lead, white doctor, white lawyer, white love interest, white. this and then every five months I get like a Latin drug dealer. And I would ask my agent, can I go up for these other roles? Let me just do my monologue. Let me just read for them.

They'll see. They won't even see you. They wouldn't see you that. So that's the way it was. No matter how talented you were or how you studied or whatever, you were never going to get the opportunity, the same opportunity as a white actor. It feels like even now, like Hollywood celebrates Latino culture, but still doesn't trust Latinos to like lead major projects.

Right, right. I mean, we're 20% of the population. we over indexed at 30% of the box office. Wow. For bad boys, we are 40% of the box office. And until we get 20% of executives, then things are going to change. But until we have Latin executives,

things aren't going to change that much. I don't know why the white people fighting it, though, if the country's getting more browner, just embrace it. It makes everything better. Why are you holding? I mean, it's crazy. It makes no sense.

We all could get along, we could have a great time It's going to flip anyway White people are only 58.2% of the population They're almost just nearly half But they're still getting 90% of the roles 90% of the executives, 90% of everything You think it's our fault sometimes Because we don't show up with the green like we should

Meaning like when there's a project You know led by a brown person People should make sure they show up Like when it's a project led by a black person Like you should make sure they show up Because everybody cares about money at the end of the day Yeah, yeah. But, you know, black and Latin people do show up when the content is right. You know, I mean, the content has to be right.

But sometimes a lot of Latin content is not written by Latin people or directed by a Latin person. So you have all this cultural appropriation that makes things look weak and soft and doesn't represent correctly. And people can smell that out, you know? But look, Fluffy, the comedian, he sells out Dodger Stadium. There's no comedian in America. that can sell out Dodger Stadium. Bad Bunny sold out Yankee Stadium twice. Mark Anthony sells out the match.

A Latin people show up for the content that's genuine. That's theirs. I mean, George Lopez and I, when we do the rice and bean circuits across America, yo, you're selling out in all these major cities. You sell out and you make, I used to make all my bank there. You got to tell me what the rice and bean circuit is. What is the rice and bean circuit is?

It sounds like the Chilipollos. 26 big cities. You got Boston, New York, Philadelphia. Miami, Tampa, Orlando, Chicago, also California, you know, you got San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco, you got Denver, Colorado, you got Phoenix, Arizona. Then in Texas, it's Austin, Houston, Dallas, McCallin, Corpus Christi, San Antonio. What else? I forget someone else?

Las Vegas. Vegas is... I don't think he said Miami. Yeah, did I say Miami? No, he did. He said Miami. That's all you need. That's all you need, yeah.

And the Rice and Bain show consists of, like, y'all just, like, doing comedy on your culture. Yeah, you do in your comedy, yeah, yeah, all these comedy circuits, and you go to these venues, and boom, you sell out, and you stay as long as you keep selling out,

and then you move to the next town. Yeah. You had a strong message for ICE and the follows of ICE, but you didn't want to match a show. I want to read it because it says, if you follow ICE, don't come to my shows,

don't watch my movies. Yeah. Why was that important me? I'm following me. Why was that so important for you? It was important to me because the way I see Latin bodies being treated, you know, moms, grandmothers, children, pregnant women. I mean, why are you arresting children? I mean, how do you do that?

How can you wrap your mind around that? It's so inhuman and cruel. And the way they're treating people, you see that. So, yeah, I can't be for these kind of like domestic terrorists going to, around covering their faces, not giving badges, not reading you your rights, not treating people with respect. That's not what they set out to do. What didn't they set out to grab criminals?

These aren't criminals. Obviously, they're just innocent people. I mean, they're not reading them their rights and not treating them with due process. That's not America. That's not the America that I believe in. Have you seen it at the airport? Yeah, I saw them at the airport. I don't think that the one, I think the ones at the airport are not the same ones they're in the street.

Right. I think it's a totally different bunch of people. people because they're so nice and they're so helpful. And Trump said that it was image rehab for them. Oh, that's absolutely what it looks like. That's what I look like. What I think he wants to do is, you know, you go to the airport and you realize, oh, that's so nice.

And so when he says, and we're going to have them with the voting boost during the midterms, you're not going to think nothing of it. Right, right. You know? His private military, that's right. Send him wherever they want. That's right. Yeah, I mean, that's what it looked like.

The optics to me was the other day I was in the airport. It was like, oh, you're trying to normal. these guys and make them look like they're okay because they're not wearing the masks, they're not grabbing anybody, they're just standing around yeah. Have you got backlash at that at all for that statement that pulled over after weird at all? Not yet, but I'm

taking lots of precautions, yeah, yeah. And you know, my family's afraid, you know. When you speak out, there are consequences. Of course. So, yeah, yeah, I take much more precautions than I used to, you know. I make sure my phone's on lockdown mode and whatnot. Do they see you in the airport? How do they treat you at the airport?

They looked at me, I bawled me, I bowed them back. Yeah. I wasn't friendly and I'm not going to be friendly to the people who are treating my people the way they are. Absolutely.

And the problem is the majority of these ice guys are Latino and black. That's problematic for me. That bugs the hell out of it. I mean, how do you deal with that? I mean, the majority of people, I know they're going for a check,

most of them, but still, how do you treat these? Your people. Yeah, how do you treat your own people that way? I'm telling you, the ones in the airport are not the same ones that are on the street.

I truly believe. But now, but when the midterms come, the ones that's going to be at the voting booths are the ones that were in the street. Yeah, right, right, doing all that thuggery. Now, what's something about Hollywood that you used to accept that you never tolerate that? You know, I used to accept all white movies.

All white movies, all white events. You know, that was just like, you thought, I guess there's not enough of us or we're just not good enough to be there, but now I don't accept that anymore. I won't go see a movie that's all white. I just won't. Because it's, we were in history.

Latin and black people were, we've been here since five, since the conquest and before. We, you know, like, I used to love Madmit, but then I was like,

boy, there's not one Latin person. Come on. In the 60s, you had West Side story in the 50s. It's not one Latin person you could have thrown into that series. And I love that series.

But then I felt so left out and so excluded and erased. In New York, in my New York City, when salsa was happening and Latin jazz was happening there was none of that you could have squeezed into your madmen

you know so yeah all white shows are out for me I want to ask I wanted to go back a little bit if you didn't mind how did you get into acting growing up in New York City we would see your name all over the place right

whether it's Carolines or you're performing here and I knew you at first as a comedian of course and then you got into acting what got you into comedy and then I was going to ask that yo you just asked him how to get into movies I was going to do it from comedy

because he started with comedy How did you get into comedy and how did you transition into me? I was a class clown and a troublemaker and a troubled teen and all that stuff. And the school made me go to therapy because it wouldn't let me back. But I was a class clown, you know, at Bertram. And it was a competitive school for class clowns, man. You couldn't sit at the table. Yeah, you couldn't sit at this one lunchroom table unless you cracked the best jokes the day before.

Damn. So I used to have to write my jokes the day before and all that stuff. And this was at what age? This, me? 16, 17. You know, and Damon Waynes went there and Q-Tip and Jungle Brothers. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah.

You all knew each other? I knew Damon. I didn't know Q-Tip. Q-Tip was like two years younger than me. Damon was always funny? I don't know about funny. He was, he was an odd man. He was a handsome dude, but he was just always to himself, always kind of smiling and had jokes in his head.

I just didn't hear them out loud. Gotcha. So back to the story. So he was writing ahead and at the lunch table. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, and then my math teacher, Mr. Zouffer was like, you know, Mr. Liguzamo, squeeze him out of his to call me because you couldn't say my name correctly. And he go, if they can make penicillade of moldy bread, there must be something we can do with you.

And he suggested I use my comedy for some good instead of disrupting, and I started taking acting classes. And boom, that started my career. I started taking these acting classes and NYU students came to see these shows and they offered me student films. And boom, boom, boom, I got an agent. I got Miami Vice. Because that's the only place Latin people could work in the, those days was his villains on Miami Vice, but hey, they were funding our careers, you know. Damn, that's dope. And then I just had shows at the New Brunswick, in New Brunswick, New Jersey,

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He alleged he was a victim of flat down. That may or may not have been political. That may have been about sex. Listen to Rorschach, murder at City Hall on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, cool, cool. Like, I see you on a lot of the walls, but it's so funny that I saw you there, and then I, and they were talking about Vinny. Yeah, you know, because you got to test out your material, you know, and you got to go somewhere, right? Yeah.

So I try to stay out of New York because they're not getting reviewed and they'll, you know, some new stuff that's not right, not right for the public eyes. So I go to Jersey, I go, you know, wherever I can as far. away and test my stuff out. And, you know, I love that. That got to be hard for you now. Right. You testing out anything anywhere. I feel like your face is so known.

Like everybody knows you. Yeah, so I have to do different things, obviously. Now I just, I kind of do Zoom testings of my material. Zoom. I can't even imagine, like, what's the impact on the people watching? No, no, not, not audience. I just get like my trusted friends and trusted. Yeah, so I have to like, I have made it make it smaller and smaller and more protected.

Obviously, yeah. That might be worse, though. You tell a joke in front of five friends that they just. look at you like, that's not it. You got to be confident. You got to be confident yourself. And then when they do crack it, you know, then they do laugh, you're like, oh, I got them.

That one really kills. I'll work on the other ones. I want to go back to something you said about the all-white movies. How you wouldn't do an all-white movie? That I wouldn't go see an all-white movie. Because if I'm in it, then they won't be an all-white movie. Exactly. People will take that statement and be like, well, that's racist.

Why is that not racist? because it's been like that forever, all white movies. America, white people are only 58.2% of the population. That's how they should be in terms of executives, the amount of stories, the amount of actors per film. I mean, that's the proper equation, I believe, for fairness and equity and parity. I just feel it's been going on for too long it's a transgression

man I feel like it's a transgression include us include us do you have a favorite all-white movie You have a favorite All-White movie Yeah they are

Goodwill hunting That's a really good all-white movie The 80s movies Like Paris Bueller's day off Oh that's another good all-white movie Those are some good all-white movies There is a good all-white movie This is a good old white movie.

Post. They got Exodus. Remember Exodus? Exorcist. Exorcist. Yes, Exodus. No, Exodus, too. I'm in the new exorcist.

No, no, I'm talking about Exodus, though. Oh, I'm talking about Exorcist. When they took, it was supposed to be Egyptians, but they had all the white people? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no people are colored, none. Yeah. In Africa. That's crazy.

Yeah, yeah. You're in the new Exorcist? Yeah. With Lawrence Fishburn, she would tell Elijah Ford, Scarlet Joe. Yes. Amazing. How was that? It's great, man. Yeah. And it's already done.

No, no, no, no. We're filming right now. Okay. Yeah, yeah. And the story of Queens. Wow. Yeah, nice, nice. When you do, like, so this is obviously your first movie like this, right? Yeah. Exorcist.

Are you big on, like, horror anyway? Like, does that type of shit scare you? Because it gets very, very graphic on themselves, I can only imagine. Oh, my God. This is one of our favorite sequence. I mean, when I saw Exorcist at 13, because my grandmother was a seventh-day Adventist, and she was like, you're going to hell. Every time you miss me, hey, you're going to go to hell.

And she slapped me once because I joked around that I was possessed by the devil, and she like, walloped the hell play that. Not Satan out of me. And, you know, so when I saw the Exodus, I thought it was a documentary. I thought it was real. I was so terrified. I slept with rosary beads. I had holy water.

I couldn't be left alone. Right. So here we're doing this new one. It's terrifying. I'm not allowed to speak exactly about it, but it's more true crime, like, Meets Satan, it's incredible. It is really horrifying. Like how do you...

How do you flush it out of your system? You know, I did a serial killer movie once. I was the detective. I wasn't a serial killer. And I did mad research. I went to morgues. I saw autopsies and whatnot. But I started really having paranoia issues.

I couldn't sleep. I was hallucinating during the day. And it was too much, man. It was too much. And I promised myself I would never go that deep again. I'm just going to use the memory of that. that situation to recreate it in this show. Because I did.

I couldn't sleep. I kept thinking people were trying to murder me and whatnot. Yeah. That's why you think about those type of movies when people, does it really affect you personally when you, do you carry that stuff home? Every movie affects you personally. There's no way if you're a deep enough, good enough actor,

you're going to take it home. So I have to be careful with the roles I choose. And also like, you know, if I'm doing a really rageful role, I have to kind of stay away from my family a little bit and try to stay calm, you know, because you're revving up. Your mind doesn't know the difference between reality and fantasy

when you're feeding stuff into your head. It doesn't know the difference, so your body reacts to it like normal. How do you get out of that? Well, you got to try to, like, listen to, like, upbeat music. You got to try to read stuff that's light. You have to try to, you know, purge it out of your body. Do you have a nanny?

Did you what? Do you have a nanny now? And did you ever feel like, you know, You wanted to Ayo What? No, no, no, no, no, no. It's just like, you know, you get,

No, it's just like, you get, you know, you start raging at little things and you're like, oh, whoa, that's the character. I need to, I need to just walk, go for a walk, just need to leave the house for a minute. You know, any of your movies, did you ever take it out on your kids and your family? Like, because, you know, he joked about the nanny,

but I know sometimes what we do at work, sometimes we take it out on our kids. Does that happen to you? Yeah, yeah, I snapped to my wife with stupid things. Yeah, yeah, and I realized, oh, that's a character, and she knows, and she starts to like, you know, you got to check yourself, check yourself at the door.

And I go, yeah, no, you're totally right, yeah. Oh, you get depressed. I just did a movie that was really depressing and I was depressed all the time. And, you know, you just can't help it. Because you're feeding yourself all this depressing things to get to that place. Your body doesn't know the difference.

You start getting depressed. Do you think that we need to know actors? And what I mean by that is, right? Like their personal lives or one of them? Their personal life. Because you know how you see a lot of these guys, they'll get on podcasts or they get on radio. and share things that.

And it's like, I don't know if I need that because I love the characters that you play. Like, is it a risk involved in doing this? I think so. I think you rob the audience from believing you're that character. Because now we know that you, you know, either you're silly dude or you're softer than you're playing,

you know, or you're meaner than you are. You know, you rob the audience of the opportunity to have a clean slate. They already know so much about you. I think it's better that, you know, So early in my life, obviously, I was all about sharing, oversharing, you know. That was my comedy. That was my whole freak and mumbo-mouth and sexaholics and whatnot.

But now I believe it's better to keep a little that mystery for yourself. Because, like, even with a movie, TV show, your political views, I guess could impact the audience. Absolutely. I mean, I lost half my following when I became political in 2016. I saw that, boom, boom. And also, the racist attacks. You know, jumped up, you know, you go back to Mexico if you don't like our country. I mean, I'm not Mexican, but I'll gladly go to Mexico if you pay for my ticket.

I love to visit. I heard it's a great city. Mexico City. You know, and then, you know, a lot of hate. We used to think you were funny. You're not funny anymore. When was your last good movie? You start?

Like, the hate starts coming, you know, the bots and whatnot. But you can't be quiet, though, right? I have a hard time being quiet. Yeah, I have a hard time keeping it to myself. I have a hard time seeing our country. going down this destruction of democracy and the corruption that's going on. And then this endless wars are horrific, man.

You know, it's hard to sit there and be a parent and not feel, you know, responsible somehow. Because I feel like democracy is not a spectator sport. You've got to do something. You've got to participate. What do your agents and stuff say to you? They try to encourage you. Oh, they stop. They gave up.

Were you losing business on that side? offers and deals and movies and so you know it's it's hard to to see that but but i'm sure it has an effect you know i'm not being invited to red states to perform or to do speaking engagements but you know yeah yeah you know when you become political you know it has it has it has a consequences i mean how could it not you know the craziest thing about this time though god willing yeah the pendulum will shift back yes like you know what we're all hoping yes i would i hope so i mean right they're moving like they're not leaving, right? Right.

But you would, they're moving to not leave. They're moving to not leave. This ice in private military and, and, all the things that he's trying to do, stopping elections, controlling elections,

uh, rating, voting elections in Georgia, you know, he's trying to figure out ways to not ever leave, asking them maybe, you know, uh,

remove the third term, the second term limit. It's crazy. But then Obama can run. But that would, but that's, I hate when people say that because, the fight is already fixed.

If they, if they, if they, change the Constitution to where he can run for a third term. It don't matter who's winning regardless. He's going to win regardless. But I just, man, I forgot what I was going to ask. You were talking about the pendulum?

You were talking about the pendulum? Oh, yes. How are executives going to look you in the eye and be like, hey, John, welcome back, you know? How would you treat them then? Well, you know, I treat them like every employer. Do you know what I mean? If you got a job for me that I want, you know, Bertolt Brecht, the great playwright of the early 19th century, said,

I'll take rich people's money and use it against them. And I thought, oh, my God, that's like the best artistic saying ever. Should be a T-shirt. So, yeah, that's what I'll do. I love that. Now, Derrick Killenannies is in Spanish, all Spanish. Yeah, yeah. Do you think that will limit how wide the audience will be, like the range of audience?

Because you got to read and pay. attention. I know it's so much going on, but it's like you can't, like, that read. What about people that can't really read that good? You know what I'm saying? Already. They got a dub version that I did. I did a dub version for those that don't want to read. But, you know, squid games.

Come on. I mean, it's a whole different world than it used to be. Americans did not want to be reading. They didn't want anything that wasn't in English. But America is different now. It's much more sophisticated, much more worldly. I think we got a big shot. Yeah, I think it'll be great. I hate the version. Like, it's just, sometimes the mouse would be like,

kill him. It just looks so crazy. Like the Kung Fu Flay back of the day. I also feel my wife says it all. My wife says it all the time. Like, you've got to learn Spanish. Because all the kids know Spanish because he's getting them taught to him in school. The first Euro language spoken in America's was Spanish,

not English. Because this was discovered by I mean, look, California is a Spanish word, Arizona, Nevada. I mean, Snowy, Florida. That means Florida. I mean, these are all Spanish words. Mar-a-Lago is a Spanish word.

It means from sea to lake. Come on. Trump doesn't even know that. He doesn't. He's going to change the name tomorrow. I know. I'm just throwing that, John. Take our Spanish name out.

You've done stand-up, Broadway, TV, film. What medium gives you the most power to tell you truth? Oh, stand-up, obviously. Stand-up, obviously. Stand-up gives you the opportunity to be your most. honest and most reckless self, you know, yeah. You still enjoy it? Yeah, when I do, when I do it, yeah, I love it.

But I do now as more speaking engagements, and I love that. That's what I'm doing now. How do you have time to do any of that? You're always booked. You're always filming a project. How do you even have time to even do speaking engagements? Well, I don't do as many. I used to.

Okay, okay. I do it sporadically now, you know? So, yeah. And the DEI thing has affected, Trump's attack on DEI has affected the speaking engagement. engagement circuit for real. Really? Yeah, a lot of corporations now are afraid to dole out dollars to something that looks

Latino or black. They don't want to look like they're doing, you know, that they're going to be called by the federal government. So, yeah, there's a lot of, I mean, his policies do have negative effects and trickle down negative effects on our communities and our employment, on our opportunities to make money. I love what you said about, you know, taking rich people's money and using it against but I still feel like there has to be some type of accountability

when all of these shifts back. We should remember the people who stay in those down. That's right. And there's Nuremberg them. I want Nuremberg trials. I want every one of these Pam Bondies and Christy Nomes to be prosecuted. Nobody gets away. And they know that.

I mean, I think they're feeling that. But y'all don't feel like when the black square, that whole movement happened, right? And everybody was like, oh, my God, we want to have empathy for black people, brown people. And then everything just switched. We didn't hold anybody accountable for things that didn't happen. Like, we just moved on and just lived our day-to-day life.

I know, because the problem is you don't want to put the same aggression and violence back into the system, but they're in the verse. You don't want to do that. But I still think people need to be held accountable, you know? I mean, we Democrats are so behind. How come we don't have a project 2028? Where are our projects where we undo everything they do where we fund public schools with 9-11? billion dollars as opposed to defunding them every time Trump gets into office

you know where's our plan to increase the Supreme Court to 11 and to put age limits where are where's our goddamn Project 2028 that's going to change everything sometimes I wonder John

if they're just all in this together and we're all just getting played sometimes I wonder because we see what they're doing and we all where's the defense and think about it four or five years, everything that's happening now as people were saying

was going to happen. Yep. So if our dumb asses on the radio and you doing movies can see it, why didn't they see it and create some type of defense against it?

Right, right. Sometimes I just wonder if they're not all in it together and we're just all getting played. I can't believe that. I can't allow myself to believe that. I believe that politicians are ambitious

and they're always playing chess moves and trying to figure out ways to get ahead. You know, a lot of politicians who are very progressive and left are moving towards the center because they see bigger sites because they want to be presidential because they want to move up there. So they start shifting. And, you know, the progressive side with Pelosi

wanted to do a lot of radical things. And they told them, you know, sit back and relax. You'll get your shot. But they didn't get their shot. And they moved everything to the center. and it looks like everybody's just working for the man. Yeah, I don't even think the center exists anymore. Because I don't want to be center.

I definitely don't want to be center right. And I don't even know if I want to be too center left. I don't feel like we need something new. Well, we never really had a left. America, there's no such thing as Antifa. Trump and the Republicans, there's no such thing. We don't have a real left. It's just left of center.

Real left is the same thing as the radical right. Real left wants to destroy, bomb. It wants to do the same things the radical. We don't have that. We don't have any of that. We've had some real left in Latin America that were guerrillas and civil wars came out of that because they needed to change the system that was corrupt and damage. But we don't have real left in America. It's not a real left.

It's a left of center. So when you say left of center, what did that look like to you? Like all the progressives. Like they want to change things and make things better. But a real left wants to disrupting, wants to blow up the same thing the radical right wants to do. You know, and that we don't have a real left. Not that we need a real left because that radical right is crazy to destroy January 6th, break into the White House and then say that they were all heroes is craziness.

I was going to say, but I agree we don't need it, but when you talk about the pendulum swinging back and holding people accountable, what do what is the plan of accountability that we hold people to? Like, what do we actually do? Because we get things go soft and then. I mean, we have to have a project 2028. I mean, that's what we have to demand from up our next president, our next elected officials at the midterms. Have a plan.

How do you undo? How do you refund NPR? How do you refund public schools? How do you fix the justice system? How do you put back all these Latin and black heroes, military heroes, that were taking statues that were taken down? You know, how do we fix this mess that, that, that, that, that, you know, that, you know, how do we fix this mess that, that, that, Trump has done. You know, they wanted to privatize public schools. They want to privatize the post office. They want to privatize TSA. Those are the things that we have to undo, and it's

going to take a lot of effort because now the deficit is the biggest it's ever been in the history because he doesn't tax the rich like they used to back in the after World War II, all the rich were taxed at almost 70 percent, and the economy was the best it's ever been. And I want a social Democrat who supports, I'm a social Democrat, who supports the capital, mixed economy, but also supports a robust welfare state. Yes. And that's going to hold everybody in the Trump administration accountable.

I'm voting for you. Come on. No. That's what I want. That's all I'm looking for. What else do you want? That's what I want. I want a social Democrat who's going to hold the Trump administration accountable. Absolutely. That's it. You give me that

Social Democrat who cares about capitalism? Who's strong, who's tough. I want a president who's just like Trump as tough as Trump. That's what I want. But not as cruel. but not as cruel. Yes. Who wants to unite, not divide.

Because Trump just, I mean, Jose Marti, the great revolutionary Cuban poet said, there are two types of men born into the world, those that create and those that destroy. And you see Trump, he destroys everything, and it's easy to destroy. It's impossible to build and to fix. That's what's difficult.

Have you seen that person? Anybody can destroy anything in the day. Have you seen that person? That you said that you want to see in office? Right now, Newsom looks the best to me of all the Democratic candidates. I mean, that's the best we got. But they're going to point to California,

and they're going to look at the crime in California. Hollywood is leaving. Like, like, it's, it's still. The environment is messed up. Come on, it's still the richest state in the country. California's still the richest state. Still the most put in, puts the most money in and gets the least out of it.

All the red states just take. None of them put in. It's going to be interesting to see how he defends his record in California. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's going, I don't, I don't see how he gets past that. But maybe he can, and I don't know. I don't know.

I hope he figures it out. I've seen you, I've seen you tearing at the Super Bowl. Tears of joy. Oh, yeah, man. Why did that performance mean so much to you? Because there's been other Latin people that performed at the Super Bowl. Why was that one so emotional for you?

Oh, dude. I think because of the situation that we're living through, you know, you watch enough, you know, TikTok and Graham, you know, you see all these horrors happening. And now that the Ellison's own time, TikTok, you see less and less, you know, and then, you know. So to see bad bunny there in Spanish, because you know there's Pacificianian tried to sing in Spanish back in the 60s and they arrested him after in Yankee Stadium and then some Mexican kid and wore Maracci outfit and tried to sing

this American Star Spangled banner and they mistreated him and threw things. So for him to speak, Spanish at Super Bowl was such a powerful statement and such a brave statement that it was moving, man. To see all these Latin kids performing on that stage, being their authentic selves. And I knew all the signals that he was sending. The old Puerto Rican flag that was banned, the electric plants that, you know, that FEMA's money was robbed in Puerto Rico so they didn't have proper electricity. I saw all the little Easter eggs that he planted, the little the little boy and the real marriage. It was all just so touching, man,

to see us celebrate it instead of demonize, instead of being attacked. It was just overwhelming for me. You can make me cry now. I know you got to leave, man. So my last question to you is when it's all said and done, what matters to you more, being remembered as a great entertainer or a cultural disruptive?

Oh, wow, wow. Can I be both? Can I be a great entertainer that's culturally disruptive? Because I believe artists are political. I believe art is political. Entertaining is a different thing, but I'm an artist, man. I like to create stuff

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