The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Juvenile & Mannie Fresh Talk New Music, New Podcast, New Orleans Culture + More

Episode Date: March 11, 2026

Today on The Breakfast Club, Juvenile & Mannie Fresh Talk New Music, New Podcast, New Orleans Culture. Listen For More! YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudi...o.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:51 Morning everybody. It's DJ NVJ Just Hilarious. Sholomey and the guy. We are the breakfast club. Long of the Rose is here as well. We got some special guests in the building. Some icons. Juvenile and man and fresh.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Back at it. What's up? What's up? What's up? How you feeling? Cool it, man. Cool it. Trying to make it happen.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Man, y'all are trying to make it half naked, you're. You're all making it, man. Listen, I know we're here to talk about the Still 400 podcast, man. Yes, sir. Man, boy, they send us a copy of that damn boiling point, Judy. Lord have mercy. Thank you for making some age-appropriate music, man. Thank you, man.
Starting point is 00:03:26 10 to age of 47, one of my favorite things to do is f*** something in Dozo. Not something, you're right? Don't get a trouble. Don't get it to try to get my wife. Don't get it trouble. Clear that shit. The album is dope. Thank you,
Starting point is 00:03:41 we got to just listen to the album, man. I'm glad y'all listen to it. I didn't think you have a copy of it. And y'all know it's a couple tracks that ain't on that, right? Okay. So it's the Rob full nine, y'all probably didn't hear of a young boy record.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Well, we didn't even hear the one with... You ain't hit a Wayne record either. I was going to ask about that. I got two albums, right? So I'm releasing one now, and I'm going to wait a few months and release the second one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:04 So that's what the thing is. Now, we notice the one with Megan that was released BBB. Megan's not on the album. She's on the album. Okay. I think they sent y'all a... She said it's a super... Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Yeah, she's on the album. I think they sent you a bit for a copy, but it's all good. I don't even know if the audio got right. Because I think this guy said the first song was with BG, and I was like, no, that ain't the first song. The first song, I think is Juvie Beverly. Yeah, that's not the first song. No, it's not the first song.
Starting point is 00:04:31 It's not with Berman. Yeah, Birdman is the intro. Yeah, Birdman is the intro. And then it's drop the location. and pay me back and pay me back and pay me back and pay me back that's like that let me let me let me be shocked I've been I've been singing that song on stage and by time I get to the second hook all the women is singing it and I tell them y'all all us so payback time you got bg and birdman in their bag on this project too like what do you
Starting point is 00:05:05 What is it about you that seems to bring out the best in them? Or do y'all all just bring out the best in each other? I'm competitive. You know, if you want to say me, I always have been, me and man. I don't know if people know, me and this dude been one in the studio from day one. I'm just competitive. I walk in the studio and say, I'm about to bust your ass. You better be ready.
Starting point is 00:05:24 And when we do songs together, they know that's how I feel. So they're going to be competitive with me. What got you to this point where I know a lot of times when the artists get a little older, they're scared to put out music because they're scared that how it be received, right? Because everything's a stream, everything's a number. But here it looked like you ain't give a fuck about none of that. You just put on a beat, I'm going to go in.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I really focused on my 9-9 and my 2000s. Really, you know, I don't want to chase a fan. I just want to do good music and hopefully people accept it and like it, but I'm really not trying to chase a fan. I'm doing this shit for me and my people, that's it. Even the way you was rolling out some of the new music, like you would drop the videos on your Instagram, and then that would go crazy.
Starting point is 00:06:03 So we all like, well, where is it? Where is it? But you dropping it, like, and be saying a lot of times people will hesitate, you just putting it out there. Like, I know y'all going to want this here, boom. And they do. Yeah. And you know what the funny part is?
Starting point is 00:06:14 When I put that first date out that I was going to release in October, people got mad at me when I didn't put that album out. So I'm glad it's coming out. And it's coming out on my birthday. So we're really going to cut up. It's timeless. Both of y'all sound like, you be your son. Every song is snapped.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It don't sound like you, y'all ever stepped out of music or took a hiatus or whatever. Like you sound like you ain't never stopped.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I love it. I really never stop. But the truth is just kind of scared to get in the studio listening to everything else that's going on. I just was like, damn, I don't know if I could compete. But then I had to sit back and have that reality check that tells me, nah, bro, you got to make music for you and your fans. You don't have to appeal to nobody else.
Starting point is 00:07:03 That's crazy to hear because the production of it sounds like, I mean, you weren't afraid of that either. Like, even on the Hot Boy Summer, like the sample that y'all used there with the DeBar sample. Yeah. It doesn't sound like you were afraid to get back in the studio or worried about competing at all. It's like you knew exactly what you wanted to kind of get into.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Shout out to my man C. Smith, too, for making that track. I really was scared. I was like, DeBard. Ooh, I'm not getting no money off this one, but yeah. The album just came together. Man, he did so many great things outside. of him just, you know, producing the tracks, the ideas, our ideas was flowing together
Starting point is 00:07:37 to make this project what it is. What about you, man? I know you're not scared to get in the studio. Hell no. I mean, I'm trying to bring fun back, bro. You know, and our era was fun, you know, and you got to, you know, it resonate when the song sound like that.
Starting point is 00:07:52 People know the song is like, oh, shit, well, this is really his personality. This is, and somewhere we got too cool to have fun, you know, so when I do it, I'm going, I'm going to have fun, you know, it's going to be some vodka and some juice and I'm like, turn on the mic and you know
Starting point is 00:08:08 and he already, what's cool about Juvi is he knows what I'm gonna do like, you know and he ain't trying to say change it. He's like, bro, I know you're gonna say some crazy ass shit or whatever, you know, and I'm like that is the way I approach a song and it resonates with our fans. I think what he found out
Starting point is 00:08:27 what you know like he didn't figure out by us being on tour when me and him went on tour. we got close to the fans. We did. And we figured out like, y'all really like the shit that we do. Y'all don't want the new version of us. Nope.
Starting point is 00:08:40 You know what I'm saying? Y'all don't need the new version of us. They just like, do what you do, and we're all right with it. We've got to bring dancing back is what you, but bringing the point. You got to bring dancing. Specifically shaking your ass. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:51 For the ladies. Some of these cats can't dance. I know I can. I got two left. But you can still and let a let you know what I'm saying? I'm a smooth. Yeah. I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Yeah. I'm saying. When you get in the studio today, Mandy, are you chasing nostalgia? Are you trying to create a new sign? No. I had a long time of doing that. Trying to say, well, you know, this is what this shit sound like or whatever. And I'm like, this is a headache trying to figure out some shit that you already know how to do.
Starting point is 00:09:18 You know, so I just had that moment of like, let me step back. And real, real shit, I stopped listening to just new shit. You know what I'm saying? Because it's nothing against it. But that's their error. That belongs to them. And I'm like, you know what? Let me go back to my error.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Let me listen to some of the shit that I love, like A Ball, MJG or whatever. Like, you know, and that right there was like, okay, this is still the same music. Same chords, same format. And the reason why we like them songs like that so much because they're easy, you know. And we've been using the same patterns for forever. We already know them. They're embedded in us. It's like hearing Marvin Gay, you know, and you don't even know why it's timeless,
Starting point is 00:09:59 It's why you like because it's simple. And it's the same that's been used in music for forever and forever. Word. Now, I wanted to, somebody in this room wanted to know Fuego and said, is Fuego the, what does he? I say, is it. It's ridiculous. Some young shit. Hey.
Starting point is 00:10:14 No. I say, is Fuego. It's Fuego a flip on, like a Latin flip on, get it from a mama. Nah. I'm not going to lie. When she asked that question, I got to want. He was so mad. He got so mad.
Starting point is 00:10:31 He's not went off in the room. I was like, he got so mad. It's like it's the hot boys. They've been using references to fire forever. I'm just saying fire. It was fire. But I was trying to figure out
Starting point is 00:10:43 because there was other samples on the other songs. I was trying to figure out like if you like use one of your older songs. Because I thought I heard like some of the same. She came here like she figured out. She was like so many ways. We said fire.
Starting point is 00:10:54 So many different ways. We got, you know, be innovative. And that was my way of doing it. made them put the song on in the other room and then we was playing it together. I'm like, I know I hear this, but. I can't. How many fire references have? You know, dance or can you do the song?
Starting point is 00:11:08 I mean, I'll try it for that song. I need training, man. They're talking about shooting the video for that and everything. But you went against a DJ and you told him you hear something. No, no, she came here just quiet. It was quiet in here. She was like, did y'all hear Fuego? Because I'm listening to it.
Starting point is 00:11:20 And I'm like, do I hear another song in this song? Yeah. I swear I knew. It was okay. It was okay. It's so mad. It's like so mad. You know what, don't she young though?
Starting point is 00:11:30 No, you always, shut up. You always, because I'm 34, he always talked to me like, I don't have any experience with old music. Like, my experience is a little younger than yours. Oh, man. Your mama was listening to her probably, your parents, right? My mom was in the party is listening to it. You get it from you let her live, don't.
Starting point is 00:11:47 That's what I was saying. Just calm. That's the thing. Yes, he goes back to the ancestors every time I say something. Because even the album is called Boiling Point. Yeah. Right? So that's an intense title.
Starting point is 00:12:01 But that feeds into the fire references too. It does. That's all it is. It's really like 400 degrees, 2026, basically. But do you chase those records to back that ass up records? And do you all chase those?
Starting point is 00:12:13 No. No. I feel like that. It's un-touchable. Somebody tell me, make one of them. I'm like, I can't make you a back-to-day. Somebody call you say, make me one of them. There's been so many artists that said that.
Starting point is 00:12:24 You know what I'm saying? Like, can you make me? I'm like, I can't. That ain't going to happen again. That was something special about that moment, that day, how it went down. Yeah, it was. Tell us how it went down. How did that dad record come out?
Starting point is 00:12:35 Yeah, we was beefing. It was a wall. Basically, he kept changing the beat. First of all, I was rapping. I wasn't doing the, yeah, the shaking ass. I wasn't doing none of that. He kept changing. See, his thing was I can't beat him out.
Starting point is 00:12:50 So I felt like I was killing him. On the first beat, I was killing. I was like, damn. Man, so when I got back to the studio, he had to change the beat. It's the first time. I'm like, damn. So I changed the lyrics again.
Starting point is 00:13:01 I got him again. I'm like, yeah, I got his ass again. So we come back, we get to Nashville. Now the album got to get turned in the next day. They're like, bro, you got two days. You got one day to record two songs. I'm like, what damn? What songs I got to record?
Starting point is 00:13:15 He said, man, we got to do, huh? And you said you want to hear. You heard back that ass up again? I said, nah. So, man, he played it to me. So now they got the, doong, doom, doom, doom, doom. He'd change the whole beat again.
Starting point is 00:13:29 I say, I go in the room. Now he's telling him, you can't change nothing. He said, you ain't changing nothing. So I walk out the room. I get in my minding room. I go straight to slump. Say, Slim, bro. He didn't did it again, bro.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Y'all got at least let me do something else. Let me take a chance at recording another song. So he let me get in there. That's how we got what we got. So it wasn't always the violin in the beginning. No, no. That was what you added and tweaked it too. Yeah, because I was just like this, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:56 like sometimes you know one of them that's going to be a hit. The DJ and me knew that this song was going to be a hit. I was like, this one is going to be a hit. And I was like the intro was the setup. Like, you know, because it was still the error of like whatever you're doing, you know, you got time to get to the dance flow. I was like, you know what? This shit needs an intro.
Starting point is 00:14:15 It needs like a little setup when it comes down. It's going to be phenomenal. You know, and you got to think when you're telling somebody that they don't get it, they're like, why you did that long ass shit in the beginning? What the fuck? And I'm like, I got this. I know what I'm doing. And do y'all know in the clubs, they extended even longer.
Starting point is 00:14:31 They, it was- Right, right, right. Then that's why I got a whole joke in my son about it. And I come out to back that ass up. I go off to back that ass up. I got a joke about it. I don't play about that song. I see it. I'll be sure.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I see it. I'm a special twerk anthem of all time. Yeah, I love it. And I wanted to do my dad. Hold, I saw something. I don't know if it was on the still point of podcast. You said everybody hated the song, man? Well, no, Jube didn't see it as, you know, because he didn't want to be known as a bounce rapper.
Starting point is 00:14:55 because you know he really, really, he was like, and I'm like, bro, this one, I promise you, this one is going to be one of them. Okay, I'm going to give you example. He wanted that to be the first single, and I was totally against that. I'm like, bro, I've been doing bounce music my whole life. I come over here to get away from it. I don't mind doing one or two songs, but you've got to let me, I want to let the world know I can really rap. And I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:15:18 And I want to not just be a normal rap, I want to push the needle a little bit. And I felt like how was the one that was going to do that for me. And I was right. I was right because, I mean, my dog, JZ jumped on the remix. So I feel like I did do what I do my thing. But guess what it didn't do? It didn't send people to the record stores. So I wasn't selling because of that.
Starting point is 00:15:38 So let me ask you, so the end of back that ass up, right? Wab, driving like a, where did that come from? Because not every version had it. Wayne on it. Wayne waited in the, Wayne waited in a corner. Wayne knew as well. He was in that bitch just like, yep. You know what I said?
Starting point is 00:15:56 I got something, Jew. I got some. My turn? He said, uh. I was like, go ahead. Drop it. He was saying. I said, yeah, that's probably right.
Starting point is 00:16:03 So Wade was, he just seen it in the court. He said, I need to be on that song. He was going to be on this shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? And he was just like, well, when can I do something? I was like, go ahead, bro. Do the end of it. I got wind on the fade out.
Starting point is 00:16:17 He started fading now. He still went to the verse, though. He really wanted a verse. He really wanted a verse. Yeah, it was too low. It was our show. When y'all do the podcast, how does it feel talking to people
Starting point is 00:16:29 that you know your lives are more interesting there? Oh, man, great. You got more success than you. He's going to do. I'd rather hear you in Manny talk, man. No, we're going to do that. Shout out to everybody
Starting point is 00:16:44 been on my podcast. Don't with you the show, man. I don't listen to him with that bullshit. You need for all for that shit. We want our podcast and keep going. Who's idea wasn't to do Still 400 podcast? Well, that was a little bit of both of us
Starting point is 00:16:57 and Dave too, you know, but Manney was the first one with the title. You know, I was lost with the title. You know, I'm never good with making Tyson to say that. You know, and people were like, well, you know, it came from Still Fly and, you know, 400 degrees.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Which is to me, one of the most popular song, like, from the big time is to me, it's still Fly. So I was just like, why not incorporate something that's both of us or whatever? Like, you know, and And it represents both of us. So that's where the name came from.
Starting point is 00:17:25 But our podcast is about fun. So we don't get on there. We don't want people even coming over that with their stresses or your beefs. We try our best to combat that. We want to get on there and just have fun. Talk about the funny things in your life. Talk about things that people may don't know about you.
Starting point is 00:17:40 A lot of cats got some humor going on inside that they don't let people know they never come out of their shell. So that's what we try to do on our show. Is the album boiling point? Is it about proving something? or are there more about just documenting where your mind is today? It's more like satisfying my fans and really feeding the hunger of myself
Starting point is 00:17:58 than seeing if I can really do it. It's like an old cat saying, I still got it. I still got it. So when I walk in and y'all say, I'm like, yeah, yeah. That's what I need. But it's pretty much me, man,
Starting point is 00:18:09 just, you know, letting my fans know where I'm at in life. I'm happy. You know, as simple as that, I'm happy. How do you and Megan get up on that record for the BBB? Well, her people reached out to me, but like she was talking about the snippets, I put a snippet out riding riding the car with just the one verse in the hook playing
Starting point is 00:18:24 and it went crazy. And the first comments, all the comments was Megan need to be on this. I mean with 90% of the comments Megan need to be on this. Megan, so my thing was okay y'all go tell her and they started going on her page telling her and they reached out to her, reached out for the song. What was happening with the date? Because wasn't it like with that song specifically? It was like supposed to drop at one point
Starting point is 00:18:45 you and Megan's, her verse and then you changed the date and it was upset? I didn't have nothing to do with that. Only thing I changed the data on is the album releasing. They was upset about the album releasing. But the Megan part, we shocked them with that because they kept asking for it, but I never told them it was happening until like two days before
Starting point is 00:19:02 it came out. Who was the young lady that was on it before Megan? Her name is Genesis the guard and she's cutting up on it. I didn't take off the album for the record too because that's one of my son's friends and she did a great job. She delivered. It was fire. So do you go to your son more now?
Starting point is 00:19:18 Like, what do you like? I really. I go to my kids for a lot. My daughter runs my social media, so I'm not. She does a good job. Thank you. Because it reaches outside of just the phone. Yeah, she is stuck on the algorithms. I don't even understand it, but.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Is your son one of the people that you talked to when you said at first you was feeling scared, like about getting in the studio, making new music or whatever because everything that's out now. Did you talk to him about it? So I'm with my baby boy, my youngest boy almost every day of the week because he's a school teacher. I'm by his house. I'm just an aggravated parent. I'm always by his house. And my oldest son, a young Jew, he's the one that's always like telling me, pops, you should do this.
Starting point is 00:19:54 You should do this. Try this. So, you know, it's kind of like I'm the kid again. Yeah. You know, like they say twice a child, twice a kid. It's kind of like they parenting me a little bit. And I just listen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I want to ask you, man, do you think the culture is ready to respect its elders the same way genres like jazz or blues did? Or even rock a roll? I think we got a knock down walls, bro. Like, it's a rebirth of music for me. And it's a, and the cool thing is that it's now or never. You know, we got a lot of, I won't call them old school. I'm going to say season artists. That's like, they're making good music, great albums, and you're seeing the shift.
Starting point is 00:20:36 You're saying people like, oh, I really like this. Like, you know, it's got substance. It's got movement to it. So I think we got to knock down doors, you know. We can't accept no more. when somebody does an interview and they say, I don't really rap. I just do this.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Well, move out the way and let's somebody who do it, do it. You know, because you got a lot of artists that do that, that say like, ah, this ain't really my thing, you know. And I'm like, well, this is really my thing. This is my bread and butter, you know. And I think we got to knock down doors sometimes and shake things up. What do you think, Julie?
Starting point is 00:21:07 For me, I try not to be so critical of the young cats because I was that cat. And a lot of the older cats was calling what I did, It wasn't rap. They said, that ain't rap. And I'm like, what damn, bro? I'm taking care of my family. My records is selling.
Starting point is 00:21:21 I'm selling more records than you. And I'm doing good. I'm doing good in my life. So who cares if it's rap or not? If my fans, the fans see me a certain way, I don't even care with another artist thing about. So now me being that old cat, I always stick my hand out to them.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I always reach my arm out to them. And I always try to show them love. And I'm never going to say nothing negative about him because how do you want to see him? You want to see him with a mic or you want to see him with that tool in his hand, right? You know, so. Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything. Like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared.
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Starting point is 00:25:44 Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. So I try to think like that and try to have an open mind about it because we don't own this. And I don't see no other genre of music criticizing the youngsters. I don't see country doing that. I don't see RRB.
Starting point is 00:26:01 I don't see nobody else doing that. So I try to tell my cast and the castes as older before me, like, we don't own it, bro. We don't have ownership. We don't have a union or something like that. that predicts how this goes. So there's no rules. So stop trying to make a rule.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Shalom, how do you think we bridge that gap? How do you think we get this younger generation to respect, you know, what came before them? Just keep making dope music. Like, you see what T.I. doing right now with the let them know record. Like, dope records are dope records. They transcend, you know, age.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Like, you got the BBB joint right now. People loving the record. Yeah. I just think making dope music. Because I was talking about that earlier with the younger generation, I feel like because of social media, they don't have, they don't get the real world experience.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Yeah. To still be able to write well into their 40s, 50s, if that makes sense. Yeah. I actually got good old geez. Y'all do a really good job about talking about this type of stuff on the podcast. I remember it was a clip with David Banner that went viral
Starting point is 00:27:00 and he was talking about how y'all were trying to survive the industry at one point. So y'all didn't really get the chance to pass down the tools because you were surviving it. Yeah. And the young generation of music needs that. And when I, I mean, I watched your show, but when I saw that, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:27:12 this is why y'all podcast is going to be so gold because of those type of conversations because now y'all in a space where y'all could do it. And that preserves it too. I think the good thing about it is it's not about us, right? It's about the person that comes on. And to the younger generation,
Starting point is 00:27:26 I feel like I feel like I'm a part of their generation also. I mean, I do music with the younger cats also. 4-2 Doug is one of my friend's son. Me and Rob 49 just did an album together. So, you know, the whole album? A album. Wow.
Starting point is 00:27:40 So when I run into Young Cats, I don't never treat them like that. I don't never say it. I don't care. I got my opinion. Whatever my personal opinion is, of them, I keep it to myself because I was taught.
Starting point is 00:27:50 If you ain't got nothing good to say, don't say nothing at all. You ain't got to spend a night with that person. You ain't got to be with them 24-7. So that's how I do. I try to spread the love. And hopefully these cats will start seeing what I'm doing and follow suit.
Starting point is 00:28:02 How'd that happen with Rob 4-9 come about? Just that. And it's kind of crazy. You say, unc, you don't, like, you don't, a lot of OG, don't treat us the way you do. And it kind of like he felt like he relate to me better than everybody else. What's one thing that y'all learned that you passed down now
Starting point is 00:28:21 that you didn't realize when you were trying to survive the industry, but now that you're living and y'all are flourished. The statement that you said, you know, there's a lot of artists. I don't know what it is. They don't have the guts to say the reason why I couldn't help you because I was fucked up myself. You know what I'm saying? I was fighting these deals.
Starting point is 00:28:38 You know, I was trying to figure out my paperwork. I was trying to figure out cross my T's and dot my eyes. Like, you know, so I couldn't tell you how to do it when I didn't know how to do it. You know, and it took a while, you know, to learn like, okay, I can't do homeboy business. I got to really do, the lawyers got to show up. We can't just shake hands on it no more. And if you say it can't happen that way, then we can't do it, you know, because it's, how can't tell the next generation how to survive this when I'm still.
Starting point is 00:29:10 doing it, you know, in a crazy-ass manner. When I'm just, I'm trusting somebody who I'm like, nah, nah, bro. It's crazy. You know, when you look, we had Teddy Riley up here and when Teddy Riley, you talk about all the hits that he's produced and he said his paperwork wasn't right, right? Man. And you hear like Salt and Pepper, who we just had the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame that put out all these records that say to this day, their paperwork ain't right.
Starting point is 00:29:32 You start understanding like, damn, we got to pass down what we know because if not, we're going to be in the same situation going over and over again. And I look at it like a sacrifice, man, because, you know, in the beginning, we didn't have the means that the artist got right now. Like these artists surround themselves with some of the best lawyers and the best everything. But we didn't have those advantages. All those advantages was at the record companies. They had all the best lawyers and the best representation.
Starting point is 00:29:58 So now when the new cats come around and they do their business the way they do it, we see it and we're like, God, damn. oh, I wish we had the opportunities that they got. If we had social media, even though it could be negative in his own way, but I think if we had social media in our era, when the record sales was through the damn roof, like 98, 99, 97, we would have way more money, way more revenue than we have now. It was a lot different, though.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Like you said you had to be intentional to go buy an album, right? It wasn't, you couldn't buy it online. You had to go to a record store. You had to go to a CD spot. You had to go buy it. And whether it was rain, sleet, snow, high, you went to go by that album. And if you was a real music head, you won't hear from your pod and all your friend. You had to have it first.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Yeah. Failure made you better. Fellia made you better in our era because you was just like, I can't fall on my face and y'all just look at me and laugh. I'd be back. And when I come back, it's going to be bigger and better next time I come back. You know, and now it just seemed like, you know, when shit happens, how do you dust yourself off?
Starting point is 00:31:05 How do you get back out there? You got to do some shock value shit or some crazy shit instead of just, hey, dust yourself off and get back out there. You know what, though, in the days of social media, it's so hard once you get, once you go down to, to bear yourself back up.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I don't know why. Because the narrative sticks with you on social media. So once it become a joke on social media, it stays there for a long time. You can be winning in real life. You put on social media, they'll still act like you lose it. How big a spell that you would say with y'all biggest. I want to ask a question about the business.
Starting point is 00:31:35 it's interesting to hear y'all say that because I always felt like cash money they showed us how to do business no we did I'm gonna say we did business as far as record company business in the beginning for us as artists got you as the artist we didn't have
Starting point is 00:31:50 our shit together and I'm not pointing the finger at them because we had our shit together none of some of the things would never happen but yeah as far as cash money kicking down or breaking barriers to deal for $30 million dollars that definitely broke barriers and I was asking what were your biggest
Starting point is 00:32:05 failures. Do you remember your biggest failures in the industry? One thing that y'all made it slip like, oh, maybe I shouldn't have did this record or I shouldn't have did this. Oh, man, one of my biggest failures in the music industry, if I want to say a record, if I say a record, probably the Floorider record. And it wasn't mine. Let me start.
Starting point is 00:32:21 It was, it was Paul Wall's record. But Mike Cameron told me multiple times, man, you should keep this record. You should keep Paul won't I want it and you're killing it. You should keep it. Abolumumumum Jeans record? Yes. I had. That was Nelly record, too. No, it was never.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Never nearly record. So, Paul Ward didn't want it. I'm like, they got to take the apple bottom jeans part. I'm from New Orleans. We don't. We don't wear the apple.
Starting point is 00:32:45 I said they got to take that part off. So let's see if T. Payne could take it off. T. Like, nah, I ain't changing it. It's staying like that. So then Mike brings up Floodder. I got a new cat,
Starting point is 00:32:55 flow rider, da-da-da-da. I'm like, well, shit, let him have it. I can't. If he's not going to change it, let him have it. But that was a fumble. Damn. They're going to have been the same record for you, though? I mean, it had the same hook on it.
Starting point is 00:33:07 You don't think the hook sold the record? That hook sold the record. How about you, money? I would say not speak in my mind, you know, because there was a lot of shit I let just go, you know, because wanting to stay neutral, not wanting to see the argument and not wanting to see the fight. Like, you know what I'm saying? And I feel like, because if I would have spoke my mind, I think shit would have turned
Starting point is 00:33:27 out different. But I also believe that there's something like God got a plan for you. Sometimes you got to walk that walk. Like, you know, and everything happened for a reason. But I would say one of the biggest regrets was not, you know, speaking my mind a lot of times on how I really felt about situations. What did you said, y'all used to argue in the studio. Yeah, we did.
Starting point is 00:33:46 But that was projects that I was like, we shouldn't do this right now. At the time, it shouldn't have been like this. Like, for instance, 400 degrees. I wasn't ready to let that album go. I knew there was other singles on it. You know what I'm saying? And I agreed to, like, they like, we got to work on Juvie's new album. I'm like, no, we don't.
Starting point is 00:34:04 We haven't scratched the surface with this. We're not finished. You know what I'm saying? Where I'm like, shit, I'm like, I know there's other songs in here. You got to think 400 degrees was never a single. Metal children. Oh, man. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Put your sense up. Run for it. Yeah. Yeah, we could have, it was more. That was times where, like, just a simple format, you know, where the concept of, like, the beginning of this, was like we wanted to do things that were obtainable to the hood and people like. So that's why when we first started doing this, it was PT Cruises and Chrysler 300. I remember, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Because we knew you could afford that shit. You know what I'm saying? And everybody was it on purpose. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But then Eagles got, it's Lamborghini time. It's da-da-da-da. And my concept was always, it's more Honda cards than Lamborghinis.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Stick with the Honda Accords and we're going to want. We go, you know what I said? And I'm like, dude, you're changing from, you know what I said? But I was like, okay, I'm going to go with the flow. You know? Yeah, you got a rose right, too. Yeah, I did. All of us had our moments.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Right now when you think about it, go back to those videos, you remember seeing the PT cruisers, the Chrysler, and the cars that they loved in the hood with rims and this, and the other thing, but now it makes sense of why you did it that way. Because the concept of how I made songs, I thought about the visuals and everything. You know what I'm saying? Like what the video was going to be, how we was going to do it, and how we was going, you know, sell it.
Starting point is 00:35:37 And what we made things completely different from when I saw a shift in music was when we did go DJ. You know, the concept that when we was doing it, I said, we're going to send all the DJs like a video camera. And like if you was a radio DJ, you can, you know, tape your show and send it back to us. And we're going to take all of that footage. And we're going, you know, and then we're going to make this like something big, like with all the radio DJ. So when, when, so I got the hook on the song, all of that. And when Wayne did it, he didn't say shit about DJs. Nothing at all.
Starting point is 00:36:10 And I was just like, well, what the fuck? The concept is not that. But it was so jamming to I was like, okay, I'm going to just leave the shit alone and see what happens. And I was like, okay, nobody never said he can say shit about DJs on this shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? They didn't give a damn. So I was just like, this crazy. So something else is going on in the water.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Like, you know. So that, that kind of. I was like, okay, there's a shift in music, something going on. Like, you know, because I was like, this shit crazy because they're rapping this song, word for word. It has nothing to do with DJs. What the hook, yeah. What is it about New Orleans that still inspires y'all so much?
Starting point is 00:36:48 Culture. Culture, man. It's our food, our language. We second line. We celebrate the dead. We live to celebrate. I'm talking about, man, you will never see. nothing like New Orleans. It's never
Starting point is 00:37:03 it's the only real 24-hour city in America everybody said they got 24-hour cities and the bars closed at a certain you can't walk out the bar with your drink you know don't sell alcohol at the gas stations you don't have drive-through liquor stores
Starting point is 00:37:19 we got all that and we sell alcohol 24-7 if it's open we're selling it if you had a bar we don't have 2 o'clock they say 2 o'clock last call for alcohol the bar open you're drinking This is imagine you got a crazy-ass sibling or uncle or auntie that don't give a shit about nothing that's going on with you that put you in your place. So it's a whole city that do that.
Starting point is 00:37:43 They don't give a fuck about, you know what I'm saying, your success. They're like, boy, sit your stupid ass down with all of that. And it keeps you grounded. You know what I'm saying? One of the sweet things about New Orleans, you will never be a star to New Orleans. And what I mean is they're going to always treat you where, you know, like, look, bro, you're one of us. We respect what you do or whatever, but at the same time, Popeye's chicken, that's what we, that's what we're doing today.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Ain't nothing special for your ass. Even at the height? Even at the height. Well, we had, you know, we had our moments. But people saw so much in the city, like New Orleans is small. Usually when you bump into somebody, the chances of seeing them again, like at 100%, you're going to see them again. So down there, family members that you probably never,
Starting point is 00:38:31 met before in life lives right on the other side of the town which is probably like 20 what 20 miles more than 20 miles yeah yeah i 10 run through that motherfucker that's it you look about we like to think we're a huge city like 15 minutes anywhere on the highway you're out of there yeah you're saying so it's so small so it's it's it's well grounded and the people just stick to what they know they don't like to change it's like a bunch of old people that don't want change one of the things we had we had that, you know, we don't really ever get a chance to talk about. But one of the things that we had, like, a lot of crews don't have,
Starting point is 00:39:08 our parents was there. Every walk of the shit that was going on, you know, our parents know each other. You know what I'm saying? My mama knew his mom. Like, you know, they hung out together. And, you know, that shit that was documented, you know, like Juvie Daddy guy, he took pictures of every shit that I'm like, I didn't even know he was doing this shit. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:39:29 So I think we had a lot of shit that kept us grand. grounded too well, you know, like if you went crazy, you know, his mama could tell me that because you respect her as an elder. She's like, oh, you're tripping. You got to stop with that bullshit you're doing. You know what I'm saying? I like how you say y'all celebrate the dead too because I always think about that when I see people nowadays who I'm smoking on such and such pack or whatever, whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:51 How y'all be feeling when y'all see that? Well, that don't relate to me because I don't really understand that. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't get that. So they got to explain that part to me because I don't really understand it. But in New Orleans, instead of, for us, instead of mourning and thinking about, you know, you lost your, you lost somebody that you really love, we think about the great things we did together. And what that person would have did if they were still here. And we try to celebrate those things.
Starting point is 00:40:18 And that's why we call it, you know, second line, because the first line is the band and the second line is the people. And it's all based upon that. We celebrate the dead. And to be honest, I enjoy it. Because who wants to be moaning and frowned up and sad? Like, I get it when a person first died, but usually when a funeral occurs, that's like a week later, a week or two later.
Starting point is 00:40:40 You should have been, you know. The craziest thing I've seen in a long time, Frankie Beverly when he passed, how New Orleans mourned him. Oh, my God. It was insane. Like, you know what I'm saying? They really celebrated this man. You won't get in a fight in New Orleans,
Starting point is 00:40:53 a serious fight? Tell somebody if Frankie Beverly ain't for more. Tell somebody. amazed the whole group. We really feel like they're from the Lord. We know they're not. Tell them that. Like, he got fucking kids here.
Starting point is 00:41:09 My fucking lie. I got my, I'll go get my grandfather the right. Yeah, all your ass down, bro. Like, say, brother, that man from Philadelphia, man, we don't give him. Nah, bro. Nah, brother, the funeral was here.
Starting point is 00:41:19 He wasn't in the casket, bro. They had an all-white parade. All-white, shut the city down. All white parade and he made a casket, bro. He wasn't in it. He wasn't in it. He was throwing that casket around like he was in there.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Second line and tossing it and everything. And I was mad. I was mad as fuck because I wasn't there. I was mad at the fuck I was. Because that's your uncle. You know what I said? You're like, man, we just sit down off the ball. A song of my album is called Juvie Beverly, right?
Starting point is 00:41:53 Because everybody always, my guy, Slab always called me Frankie Beverly. For one reason. Maze is one of the only. only bands that he performed all the way up until he couldn't no more, right? Always stayed booked. And he said the same thing about me. Like, dude, if you stay booked, you're like, God damn, you stay booked.
Starting point is 00:42:11 You like Frankie Beverly. So I always looked at Maze as somebody that I wanted to be like. That's why I got a band, because I felt like they had the best band, that live band on stage. If you've never seen anybody perform, trust me. Nobody's touching them. And we miss them. We mess them. In New Orleans, take it to heart.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Yeah. You remember the first time you seen him in concert? Uh, Budweiser Superfest in New Orleans Superdome. Okay. We didn't see Mays first. We grew up with Mays. Your mama cleans your house today. Well, Mays recorded a live album at the singer in New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Okay. He said, famous word, he said, well, why would you do a live album in New Orleans? I said, well, why not you, dig? That's, that's law. That's more than the King Sands and that's next. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, how many times
Starting point is 00:43:00 did somebody actually paid y'all back in pussy, man? My wife do feel, I'm... Yeah, put my purse and bidders in the street, man. I'm a man, right? I get paid all the time, right? Are we getting the tour for this album? Yeah, I start April 2nd.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I've been promoting it for a couple months now. My guy's gonna come out. I've been trying to get them on a whole day. I'm gonna do something. I'm out here's DJ and y'all know what this is. Hey, yeah. A couple years ago, man, he just thought, I said, Jesus, man, he's just doing everything.
Starting point is 00:43:36 I see, man, in Africa, I see him. You're DJ for 85 South? Everybody, yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir. He makes, he get his money. I'm out here. The record, one more round, right? It's such a different sound, but it feels like, it feel like, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:52 that Southern Soul that's coming from South Carolina right now. That's why you did that? No, no, my God. My guy, Bree, is from Nashville, right? So my relationship with Nashville is high and back to that something because that's where we recorded them at. So I always, Nashville, oh, man, my son. Nashville.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Nashville always feel like that's home for me. So Nashville always felt like I'm one of them. So I said, you know what, I'm going to do a song directly, strictly for Nashville. And I got my guy, Bree on there doing it. He did his thing. They did the track and everything for me. They mixed.
Starting point is 00:44:24 They did everything. I just wrapped on it. And it came. I heard I said, damn, it does have that something. It does have that field to us. I love songs like that. When you're making music, you never know how it's going to come out until you finish. So it's one of them things.
Starting point is 00:44:38 People are going to have the analysis of it and hopefully they all like it. You making records like that, man? Yeah. Yeah. He got a lot of records like that. The crazy thing is the dude Raymond, that's my roadie, you know, he was just kind of singing around, you know, and I'm like, bro, you really, you know, you really know what you're doing. So I just start cutting songs like that on him and, you know, and they're coming out.
Starting point is 00:44:57 And I'm like, yeah. And I'm like, bro, yeah, and that's fun for me when there's musicianship in it. You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, bro, I kind of, this is my lane right now. So you're going to hear a lot of them from me, bro. BG said we might be getting to cash money, no limit tour. That's happening? Yeah, that could happen.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Yeah. I mean, we're in negotiations. You know how negotiations go? You know how negotiations go? There's a lot of people on that tour to get paid. We're not going to see it. We're not going to see it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Until we get that bag. I'm maddened you. Well, congratulations. We barely got the verses. How are y'all going to do it, total? I mean, hey, money. Money.
Starting point is 00:45:36 You got to do it. Money here. You're bad for business, man. Everybody we expected to see it the verses will be on this tour. We come to breakfast club to elevate our business here. Bring our shit up. And all you do is, 10 an hour on, man.
Starting point is 00:45:50 I just remember when I heard you say, I think it was a, well, the drink chance of somewhere you was like, you almost didn't do versus. I'm like, well, if you, Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold up. I'm the biggest little Wayne fan of the ears. I don't know if you see me. I campaign all the time,
Starting point is 00:46:03 because I think Wayne is the greatest rapper of all the time. I don't care who they see. I always put them at one. You know, when Wayne don't show up, are you down right? I got a problem. Yeah, yeah. You know, how are we going to do a cash money versus no limit?
Starting point is 00:46:16 And we ain't, we won't have our machine. We don't have our oozy with us. Yeah. I was like, look, if Wayne don't do it, I ain't doing it. But my man, Swiss Beach, shout out the Swiss Beats, and Timlin. They called me and gave me. long, gave me a long speech on why I should do it.
Starting point is 00:46:31 And I thought about it, said, you know what? I'm going to go ahead on and do it, especially when I found out what the reasons was my guy didn't show up. So I'm doing it. The fans. Yeah. But I wish we would have did it in New Orleans. So that's why I feel like, that's why I feel like, we still should be having it.
Starting point is 00:46:46 We still, we still got more verses to do because it definitely should have happened in New Orleans. I agree. You as what did that record after the version? The one on your album? No, no, it was before the version. Okay, okay. That record tough, too.
Starting point is 00:46:56 This is what I can't wait for. I can't wait for the tour because, look, yo, I was on, I've never seen nothing like this. I saw, I did a couple shows with you. I'm happy as hell that I got to do that. But I was at one of the stops, they had messed up your sound and you had a lot. You was headlining, so you did like, you closed out the show. You were so mad. You was like, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Y'all can just cut it off. And you performed the rest of your sex. Oh, yeah, Lange. And everybody was singing with you. Like, every one of them, every one of them guys in the crap. went crazy. This man performed like, what, nine, ten songs
Starting point is 00:47:28 without the music and everybody was singing. I was like, oh shit, this is great. Now, see, that's what I need. You know, when you're doing, that's what you do.
Starting point is 00:47:36 That's what you do. That's what you do. That's positive. Now, y'all heard that shit. Go buy my tickets, man. You don't get this? I'm going to sing my damn song. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Thank you. Oh, you're a good. That's my mom, my brother. The album comes out for the 27. Congratulations. When the album come about saying again? The 27th March, yes.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Don't say that. The 26 at 12 o'clock. All right, the 26 is my birthday on the 26. All right, the 26 at midnight. Make sure you get the album and check out their podcast, still 400 podcasts. We appreciate you guys for joining them.
Starting point is 00:48:05 I'm just glad you're representing for the older folks, man. Yeah, man. I got so, man. You got you a little thick all over my Dior sweater. You want your head pulled and your ass mack real hard. You're going to find out fucking that old thing.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Like, yeah, that's what I'm talking about right there. With the brief. Yeah, with the baby. Listen what? You want a young nigga ride on a forward? Or you want a grown man who can drop pole in you? That's the one,
Starting point is 00:48:29 It's juvenile, is Mani fresh. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Hold on. Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The breakfast club. You're all finished or y'all's done.
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