The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Ken Ivy Pimpin Ken Talks Pimpin lifestyle, Hip Hop Fraternity, Signing Mykfresh + More

Episode Date: July 10, 2024

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Wake that ass up early in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlemagne, the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. We got the brother, Ken Ivey, a.k.a. Pimpin' Ken.

Welcome, brother. What's up? What's up, Envy? How you feeling? Hello, Charlemagne. What's up, Miss Hilarious? How are you, sir? Man, I'm well, man.

Who is Pimpin' Ken for people who don't know? Well, you know, a lot of times when people say Pimpin' Ken, they put a period, right? But they need to put a comma. I'm also an author. I wrote two books, Pimpology Before They Lost the Game, also The Art of Human Chess. I'm also the founder and chairman of the Hip Hop Fraternity.

My CEO from New York, James C.B. Gray. He's also part of it. I'm also a manager, Mike Fresh. You know that song, Throw That Ass in a Circle? Yes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's him right there. That's Mike Fresh.

He's signed to me. I also have several businesses. I have my own social media site. I have my own HHF magazine. We do our award show in Atlanta every year. All the celebrities come. So, you know, I'm a collage of everything. You know what I'm saying?

But I started off as a young hustler in the streets of Chicago. I got caught up early, caught a case, attempted murder. It wasn't really attempted murder, it was just in the racial part of Chicago, Oak Park, and they just gave us the worst charge they gave us. I was 14. My mother moved me to Milwaukee, got to Milwaukee, caught another case. And then, you know, just started my journey, you know, in the streets. And then eventually, you know, I was robbing banks and went to the feds and went to the state prison. I was like, man, you know, this ain't working.

So when I got out, I ended up getting in another game, the pimp game. And I became legendary. I won pimp of the year, international pimp of the year. We did a movie called Pimps Up, O's Down. Oh, you feel, I remember that. We did American Pimp, you know, and I became this infamous pimp. You know, 50 now, you know, 51, 52, did that sound problem child?

If you're a pimp like Ken, why the hoes don't treat you? All the rappers started rapping about me. Then when that movie came out, you know, Chalamet and Envy, it's just I had to make a change because now I'm exposed. You hot? It was like I snitched on myself, so to speak. You know just I had to make a change because now I'm exposed. You hot? It was like I snitched on myself so to speak. You know what I'm saying? And so my daddy said, boy, you're a fool. You just told everybody your business. So while

HBO was shooting their movie, I was shooting my movie too, Empology. So that's the movie that's on Instagram now, Empycan Podcast. I got that on there right now. It's for free. But I made millions of dollars off of it. It was all on BET commercials and stuff like that.

Then I also got into daycare businesses. I got into retail stores, and I just started becoming a businessman. And the next thing you know, I'm in Atlanta, and that's when Big Meech was kind of popping. And I'm down there, and Jermaine Chapree said, hey, man, I want you to be on my album. So that album, Instructions, that's me on there with Money, Holes, and Power, me and Bum B.

And then after that, Lil Jon called me. I did two albums with him. I did two songs with Too Short. I did a song with E-40. Down to five songs with Pimp C. I did about five songs with Pastor Troy, Puffy. He had me do a song with Loom. So I did a song with Loom.

I'm on that Loom album too. And that's crazy because I was just talking to a man, Hoffa, he was asking me about Puffy. I said, man, you know, I don't have the perspective that everybody has. My relationship with Puffy was always business. You know, Puffy, youuffy, he called me and said, say man, what is your publishing company?

I didn't even know what a publishing company was. I said, Ken Ivey Publishing. Puffy, he kind of gave me some game on the publishing. That's how I'm able to receive residuals years later after getting that game from Puffy. Puffy, he invited me to his parties

and shit. I don't know if I'm cussuffett, he invited me to his parties and shit. I don't know if I'm cussing, but he invited me to his party. And I come there. It was all player. Me and Bishop Don Juan went to Justice here in New York, and I never seen that type of stuff. I was talking to G-Depth yesterday. And me and G-Depth, I said, man, I don't know nothing about that. I don't know what them people talking about.

I said, that man, he's always been a gentleman. He's always been a player with me, you know, a street dude, you know. And, you know, that's just the relationship that I had with him. But, you know, that's one of the things I was saying about Loom. I was on his album. And then who else did I have my idea of a song with? I did the 50 Cent joint, Sabrina Baby's Boy with Who Kid. That's me doing the narration

and talking on all that. I did the PILP video. I did Cuckoo Cow video. You know, yeah. You did a lot. You did a lot. Yeah,

but the biggest thing I did was just recently, young man by the name of King Moore, y'all can look him up. He just, in one month, he did 2.5 million views i just sent him to the

white house and represented my organization with sister uh castleberry hernandez and tony mercedes representing the youth department of the hip-hop fraternity but it was spearheaded by our brother james um cb gray you know so we have a relationship with the white house you know with the anti-gun violence ice he is also a member of my organization. He's my national advisor. So he did a Stop the Violence campaign for the White House, and we sent that up to there. So he was supposed to come, but he was overseas.

So that's some of the things that we're doing. We're working with the White House. We're working with Sister Aisha Shakur. What's her name with James? I also say cool. And, you know, with the, what's it called again? Anti-gun violence. Anti-gun violence, yeah.

But it's called Street Corner Resources, right? So with the Street Corner Resources. And, you know, so that's just what I'm about, man. You know, I made the transition, you know, more on a corporate thing. You know, my son, you ever watch that thing, All American? Mm-hmm. That's my son. What's it called?

All American, number 14. The light-skinned son, Ken Ivey, that's my real son. Wow. He's on there. He's also in a movie called Play the Flute. He's the only black dude in the movie, and he's on about, you go to his, what do they to his what they call it ib imdb imb yeah he's on about 10 or 15 movies so you know mother son supreme at one the great supreme you know he's also doing well he's into the music industry so you know even though i was in the game you know i raised my children different all my kids

went to college right you know because i didn't want them to go through what i went through you know because you know i've been shot five times you know did many years in the penitentiary you know this was in the game out here bad you know so that wasn't the lifestyle for my children i was able to you know make that transition so now one of them ever seen me as pep and can did your lifestyle uh know, ever make women leery of you? Because, you know, you introduced us to your wife. Mm-hmm. Well, she was like,

hell no, I don't want to get married to you. You a pimp. Well, you know, it ain't even like that. You know what I'm saying? You know, I'm my mama's boy. I'm Juanita's boy. You know, that's my mother, right?

So she know me as, you know, Ken, the son. She slapped me upside of my head. Now I'm 60 the son. She slapped me upside of my head. Now I'm 60, she still slapped me upside of my head. So, you know, that's how she look at me, you know. But, you know, a lot of people, they got a misinterpretation of pimping, right? In order to be a pimp, you got to have a hope. Unless you're a ho, it don't apply to you.

If you ain't in the game, it don't make no difference, you know, what you doing. You know, so when you dealing with people, you know what I'm saying i'm saying you know like most people if you notice charlemagne and dj m you know a lot of people got a lot of good things to say about pimping him because i'm an honorable dude you know pimping ain't who i am it's what i did you know so that don't make that don't define me you know so i'm a whole different person now so you know i'm saying when i like i said i sent all my children to college you you know what I mean? I deal with people on a whole different level now. Let's go back.

Let's talk about Jess. So when you were a pimp, what's the most hoes you had at one time? 16. I love it. Okay. You love it.

I'm just saying like, because I never talked to like a real pimp before. Oh, okay. I got you. I got you. Not who he is now, but who he was.

You know what he did. 16? Wow. I was going to ask, how did you get your start? Who was your first hold? How was you introduced to? What are you trying to say? No, no.

How was you introduced to Pimpin'? How was you introduced to it? When you're introduced to the drug game, somebody introduces you to your first whatever it is. If you're introduced to this. So who introduced you to Pimpin' and said, I can make some money off of this? Okay, so NBL. We was Robin Banks and Robin Church. So it's a partner of mine named John Divine, JD, right?

So when I get out of the boys' school, I go to his house. He got three chicks, right? I said, man, let me have one of them. He said, which one do you want? I want the one that's light, bright, damn near white with the pussy candy stripe. So he said, cool. He said, this is yours. And then that's how I ended the game.

Her name was Dirty Red. I talk about it in my book And then that's how I ended the game. Her name was Dirty Red. I talk about it in my book. So that's how I became, you know, a piece. So a brother named Starchild, you know what I'm saying, he may rest in peace. He died from COVID just two years ago. That brother was like, hey, man, Ken, you know, you got to be like this.

You got to, you know, try to take another man's bra. You got to, you know, give a woman a stretch and ask her where she come from who was a mom who a daddy but we found everything about the bra so he was giving me the game and I ended up taking one his bra so when I took his bra like I said a lot of jury from the bra and jury stole I gave him a chain he kept my chain he was very unpep like because he couldn't accept the service you know I serving the news blue a fuse and put his girl up under some new rules. You know what I'm saying? But we're even having that.

You know, so, you know, that's how I get into that game. Then I went back to prison. So when I went back to prison, you got to remember, I'm thinking like, man, I'm making some dumb moves. I mean, here I am, I got women giving me money and I'm still hustling. So when I got there, I met a guy by the name of

Pimpin' Pope. He said, Ken, you know, to be in this game, you got to have a triple bypass. You got to have all the sympathy to move out your heart. You know, he said, you know, you can't be sympathetic. And then I said, well, what you doing in here with me, homie? He said, oh, man, you know, this dude, you know, he got one of my girls. And the girl, you know, she was so dedicated. You know, she would light a cigarette before he even put it in his mouth.

She would feed his stomach when he growled. He said, that's what we do. We give instruction. You know what I'm saying? That's what it's all about. He said, the game is a game of soul. So I'm listening to the dude, and I'm getting the game from him. And you know what I'm saying?

It clicked in me. I was doing it all wrong. You know what I'm saying? I said, man, you know, I can't fall in love. I can't. Ain't no love in this game. Love is like the heart. So you're falling in love with all the girls you had.

I can't fall in love with nobody. I didn't even fall in love. He just showed me the game and clicked in my head, and that's when I became the Tury with the game. You got to remember, Charlamagne talked about mental health. I believe I was going through some mental things because I was molested by my babysitter, a young lady, when I was three years old.

And then when I was in prison, my mama left me for dead. She never came to see me. But she used to come see my brother all the time. So you know you know I'm saying that gave me a disdain for women so you know I mean when I deal with women you know this man already telling me I got to have a triple bi-pay so you can't have no sympathy it was easy for me to get in that game so when I got in that game you know I was mashing with no passion I was mashing for my ration with no passion you know so I had no feelings people ask me how you feel I said I feel with my passion. I was matching for my ration with no passion. You know, so I had no feelings. People used to ask me, how do you feel?

I said, I feel with my hands. So that was the mentality that I had. So that caused me to be desensitized. It wasn't until I had my first child, which is Kiki, my daughter. You know, when I had Kiki, then I changed my mentality. You know, if you change your mentality, you can change your reality, right? Yeah. So I changed my mentality, and then I started having love,

because that was the first time I really experienced love, love, love. And so my daughter, she just kind of just made me make a lot of different life decisions. And then I realized that, hey, man, maybe you can do some different things. And then when I actually got out the game, you know what I'm saying, I had a whole different perspective on women, and I forgave my mother for what she'd done. And when I actually got out the game, you know what I'm saying, I had a whole different perspective, you know, on women, you know, and I forgave my mother, you know, for what she'd done. You know what I mean?

I love my mother to death. I was just with her. And, you know, but it was kind of traumatizing because, you know, I'm in jail and I can't even see her. You know what I'm saying? So it just made me feel like, you know, man, I ain't got no respect for nobody. I'm cold-hearted. I'm out here. You know, whatever happened, happened.

And unfortunately, that's what makes a good pimp. Unfortunately, it makes a good pimp because when you're dealing with women out there that's in their lifestyle, they're dealing with hundreds of men every day. You know, they don't have no sympathy, right? You know, you got to be cold-hearted to break a trick, you know, and get some money from a man and know this man is married, know this man is in a relationship, but, you know, you can't, you know, deal with her. So when you deal with the female and she come home, she's trying to run game on you too.

You know, I believe God gave a woman the same thing he gave a skunk, a white stripe in the belly for the funk, you know, so they bringing the funk home and they bringing the drama. So you got to deal with that. And if you don't deal with that, even if you look at the, you know, the Bible, you know so they bringing the funk home and they bringing the drama so you got to deal with that and if you don't deal with that even if you look at the you know the bible you know it says the fall of man right when you talk about the fall of man what are you talking about you're talking about how some woman he allegedly we're gonna say allegedly because we don't know people's prefaces right in terms of religion allegedly this woman, this woman deceived him, and that's how he got naked. So if that's the mentality in the Bible, that's the first chapter of Genesis, the fall of man.

We know that the woman has always been the challenge for the man. And vice versa, too, though. Yes, sir. Because you said it yourself. You had so much hurt and so much pain in your heart for women that you treated women a certain way. So if you're already approaching a situation like that, she's probably going to feel that energy. So there's going to be resistance.

Right. Absolutely. So I was going to ask, I mean, you call them hoes, but when these women came to you, did they come to you or did you sort them out? Did they come for you for protection and help or was it one of those things where you found, like, how did it work for people? Because when people hear pimps, right, they all think of old school pimps, beat a girl up, put them on the corner in the Bronx or on the corner on the old 42nd Street and make sure. So how did these women come to you?

Well, you know, once you get in the game, you know, you get chose with your mouth closed. You know, it's by choice, not by force. You know, so I was always Rose Royce, so so always tell them let your choice be rose voice and what i mean by that is that a lot of young dudes out here they selling these brawls dreams they're like hey you know what i'm saying get with me i'm gonna buy your rose voice i'm gonna buy a cadillac we're gonna buy you some minks and some diamonds well i was already pulling up with that so i was the dream you know what i'm saying so because you selling this one of the dream she said hey man i don't want to be with envy no more i want to be with ken so I was the dream you know I'm saying so because you selling this one the dream she said hey man I want to be with me no more I want to be with Ken so she'd choose up on me when she choose up on me I'll call you

say you could break the plate man that woman don't eat there no more that's I mean you know she's you know she didn't chose up she did she let her choice be Rose what you know she didn't choose down she chose up so Daniel then you're gonna be like oh man you know and then in game, it's a non-contact sport. You would have to accept that. So it's actually a coach. He said a non-contact sport. So in the game,

there was no, you're not coming from me, I'm confused, non-contact. You lose your girl, that's it. Yeah, yeah. Once you get knocked, man,

you got to accept it. You know what I'm saying? I respect that. If you get knocked by Nakarachi, that was me. You know what I'm saying? They called me Nakarachi because I was knocking everything.

Then when Nel Dog came to New York back in 91 and every time I would peel the dudes in New York for his girl, I'd give him a Wall Street Journal banana and say, man, it's in the news, you've been peeled for the bra. And they'd be like, man, this dude is crazy. He from Milwaukee, he tripping.

Then I put ketchup on him by the wheels and say, man, you know, my game is thick as high, yours never be thick as mine. You need to catch up cause you've been in the mustard too long. You know, and then that's- You actually put ketchup by people's wheels? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was your calling card? Yeah, huh? That was like your calling card? Nah, that was when I knock them for the broad, I let them know like, man, listen, you know, I didn't peel you, you know what I'm saying? You know, you give a Chinese name, one gone. Imagine like him with ketchup bottle.

Putting it by each wheel, oh my God. Nah, I had squirt ketchup on it. Oh, you squirt ketchup on it? Nah, nah, nah and I had a squirt ketchup oh oh your squirt ketchup no no I'm about to have to have to have to

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You know, even if you look at your Facebook, you know, when you first started Facebook, it wasn't as technologically advanced as it is today or Instagram. So life evolves. Like Darwin said, evolution. So when you see evolution, you got to evolve. So these young people, they got to evolve. So me, this is my hope right here.

She don't argue with me, she don't fight with me. Charlemagne can't pimp her, you can't pimp her, only Ken can pimp her, so pimpin' Ken, that's what I'm doin'. I can pimp that. Well, I'm sayin'. I'll go buy a bunch of copies of that book and sell it for double.

Yeah, but you'll have to pay me. No. Yeah. If you buy a book, you pay him. Then you book and sell it for double. Yeah, but you're going to have to pay me. Yeah. You buy a book, you pay him. Then you're going to become a hoe. But I'm going to sell it for double. Yeah, but what I'm saying, Chalamain, is that I don't have no headaches with this.

No, I'm with you. You know what I'm saying? I don't have no headaches with the hip hop fraternity. You know what I'm saying? Me building young people, teaching them about cryptology, ASCAP, BMI, teaching them about TuneCore uh intellectual property you know how to get a lawyer and stuff like that you know and uh you know bringing in investors you know like we we trying to get investors now you know right now we bringing in investors because we're

c corp you know i'm so we trying to you know i get that from your man too uh john hope bryan yeah man you know i get a lot i made him at your event you know mr hope you know he he give us a lot of game my man valentino give me a lot of Hope, he gives us a lot of game. My man Valentino gives me a lot of game. Big Silk gives me a lot of game. They just teach me about a whole other level of getting money. So we just get money. Tony Mercedes.

Oh, yeah, my man, I do his show, Boss Talk. He said thank you for always mentioning him. Oh, yeah. And then I'm doing podcasts. I'm with Trigger Alert with Ugly Money. I'm a co-host on that you know you do a lot i need to i want to do something with you too man i want to bring my show over to y'all black effect man okay and don't try to be no hoe because they don't pimp no more what's the hip-hop fraternity break that down for uh okay come on in james pull a moment? Come on in, James. Pull up a microphone for James. Thank you guys for allowing me to speak.

Yes, sir. My name is James C.B. Gray. I am the CEO of the Hip Hop Fraternity. Thanks to Ken Ivey, he appointed me. He bought me, and me and Ken did a bunch of business deals years ago, which evolved into now us working together with Hip Hop Fraternity. The Hip Hop Fraternity, first and foremost, is a think tank. All right.

90% of major companies, organizations that are of European establishment have a think tank. White. Yeah. And 95% of organizations that are of black lineage don't. And when I was younger, we used to do surveys all the time. And I used to answer a bunch of questions. And I used to think I was getting over making $1,500 for answering a couple of questions. And later on, I found out that the information that I was giving these organizations was making them way more money by fine-tuning their product and service you know than i was really doing it in anything so that's when i realized the power of a think tank

so one of the things we encourage hip-hop fraternity members to do is think okay and that leads to the new emancipation proclamation which is the freeing of the mind not just the bounding of the physical realm you know i'm saying so a lot of us are stuck you know in the physical so the mental chains have to be broke before you can even you know get beyond that so we have a whole curriculum in the hip-hop fraternity where we're teaching hip-hop artists about publishing royalties contracts entertainment law distribution everything under the sun if you look at it for the last 50 years we just celebrated hip-hop and now we're looking back and saying wow we not only celebrated victory but we also are victims of of you know being ripped off for so long in this industry you know

we have um hip-hop artists who can no longer perform, you know, have massive heart attacks and strokes, don't have any pension plan, don't have any insurance, or anything like that. So this is one of the things that we're proposing with Hip Hop Fraternity. On a congressional level, we spoke to a couple of congressmen already,

which led us to now putting together a political action committee under the Hip Hop Fraternity, which is going to not only galvanize resources, but also centralize the hip hop vote. Okay. You look at the LGBT, the Hispanic,

the black, all demographics of the voting blocks would be centralized. Okay. Hip hop vote, I think, is the number one voting block in the world. I mean, especially in the United States of America, where it really counts. But nobody's actually ever

centralized that vote. You got certain hip-hop artists that would take it over here, use it to their benefit. Politicians that would use hip-hop artists in order to galvanize votes here and there, but nobody that actually voted under one umbrella. use hip-hop artists in order to galvanize folks here and there, but nobody that actually put it under one umbrella. And Hip Hop Eternity has a solid infrastructure to not only be able to do that, but to roll out a whole other agenda that's going to empower our brothers and sisters.

We have 37 chapters throughout the United States. Three years, we've amassed that amount of follow over 10,000 two in Africa one in Puerto Rico, one in Haiti and we just launched the chapter in London so we're actually one of the fastest growing hip hop organizations because of the platform that we have

one of the things we have in each one of our chapters is access to major DJs distribution promoters. We have weekly meetings. Yeah, we got the magazine, Hip Hop Fraternity clothing line, Hip Hop Fraternity blog, the podcast. We have so much.

If you go onto the website, www.hhfmedia.com, you'll see the whole layout. And when you sign up and become a member you have access to our curriculum which teaches about the fundamentals the mechanics and the business signing up free yes everything free everything's free let me uh so uh when i first started envying chalamet and miss Jess, I did it in Atlanta. So I came through, and I wanted to be a disruptor, so I disrupted the entire music industry in Atlanta. So what we did, I fed the kids for free.

I let them perform for free. I let them get in free. It's been going on for four years straight. All paid for out of my pocket because I have a son that's in the music industry, and he was doing a lot of music, and, you know, it was costing him a lot of money, and I was paying for it, you know, or he would pay for it, however, you know, it went.

But I wanted to give the opportunity and create an Apollo-like situation, an American Idol situation, so the artists can come in and perform for free, and if they talented, like Mike Fresh, you know, we just signed him. You know, he got 20 billion streams. He got more than Lil Baby. Baby got 10 billion.

I read it on your plaque out there in the room. So he's got double the action that Lil Baby got. So bringing him into the hip-hop fraternity and explaining to him the business side of it, you know, because it is a business called the music business. You know, I was in a meeting with Dr. Umar Johnson in California. He was, you know, attending one of our HHF events and we were talking and Dr. Umar said, you know, hip hop is the second largest export of, you know, American exports. you know hip-hop created more billionaires than any other black sector in the history of this country you know you talk about jay-z puffy

kanye yadda yadda yadda you know these have been an untold amount of millionaires it created the breakfast club you know created you know drink champs, Trigger Alert, all these different platforms, you know, No Jumper, all this stuff is coming from hip-hop, you know, influences, right? So that's why it's so important. You know, people will go to the mosque and join Minister Farrakhan. They will go to Potter House and join T.D. Jakes. But more people is acclimated and more probable going to hip-hop than they were to going to the mosque or going to the church, right?

So we wanted to be that outlet. So when I was looking up the word hip-hop fraternity, it was available. It shocked me. I'm like, what? But then when you look at East Coast versus West Coast, or Bear Boy versus Devereux, and Cash money versus No Limit, you see the divisiveness in hip hop.

So they would never anticipate us coming together from that perspective. That's why those names were available because anybody that's smart and calculating, they not gonna let no domains be or no trademarks be available. So we was able to trademark that. And then I was able to get to Atlanta

and sell everybody in Atlanta on the idea that hey look here we tried everything but unity you know i'm saying me you know we tried everything but unity and then the brothers and sisters just start coming and then it started off with maybe five or six people now we have 10 000 people around the country and uh i have uh nothing but phds he's's a former vice president for Al Sharpton. I was able to take him from Al Sharpton. He's opened up for Al Sharpton. Is that a former pimp? Is that a former pimp?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got some catch up on Al Sharpton? No, but I mean, on a serious note, shout out to man, you know, Sister Kentrice, you know, she's worked for a billion dollar company. She did billion dollar mergers and acquisitions. So, you know, she's worked for a billion-dollar company. She did billion-dollar mergers and acquisitions. So, you know, my thing was to bring the street people and the intelligent people.

And, you know, I even got an opportunity for you brothers. You know, we're going to, from the corporate's perspective, from the business perspective, you know, it takes finance to uplift the nation. I want to give brothers like y'all equity in the company. You know, just the same thing with Vitamin Water. It did with 50. And, you know, we got, you know, just the same thing with Vitamin Water. They were 50. And, you know, we got, you know, we've been talking to Floyd Mayweather, Lank the King.

We've been talking, you know, Ice-T, of course, going to have equity. We want to, you know, like you and DJ, Evie, y'all, and Miss Jess, y'all have power. You know, we all hip-hop. We all love the culture. You know, why shouldn't y'all have a piece of that company? And we want to give y'all and submit a piece of the company, sit down with our lawyers, we can make that happen.

And all the other young brothers and sisters out there that's doing well for themselves, that have some influence, we want to bring them in too. And then we can go and we can attack the venture capital. Then we can do an IPO eventually. And then everyone can eat and we have our culture back. And that's what I want everybody to understand is our culture, our call. That jacket I gave you, let me see that right quick.

The Pop Fraternity jacket, Boston jacket. But it says something on it that's very important. I don't know if people can see that. The culture, our call. Our culture, our call. So when we think about it, right, now this year is gonna be very profound what I'm about to say, and it's not a racial statement. But when you think about our Jewish brothers, right?

You know, they, you know, can claim fame with jewelry. You know, our Mexican brothers can claim fame with taco and Mexican food. You know, our Greek brothers can claim Greek town. You know, our Chinese brothers can claim egg rolls and Chinese rice, but we can claim hip-hop. That's our culture. We created that. And we got to understand the importance of us taking control of this. There's no reason why Universal, Sony,

and all these other major record labels should be giving our children 15% royalty and charging them 50% production deal, meaning every time they shoot a video they got to pay if the video Me and they got to pay a half a million dollars How many records do you sell as Tony Mercedes like to say at 15% royalty to get a half a million dollars? No me being in the publisher game. I was telling a Boosie when we was doing the book deal. I said Boosie, you know You look at the publisher coming, you know this one for the'm finna say Charlemagne, cause you do books, and you too DJ Envy. I said, you know, when you look at the publisher game,

it's like Caesar's Palace. You look at the record business, it's like Chase Manhattan. But they only charge you 100%. If you and I don't recoup this book, it's good. It's all good. It's all good. So this is what I'm teaching now, you know, and like I said, you know, Boosie wanted to get a major advance. I said, Boosie,

we take the less advance, we take the better because, you know, that way, you know what I'm saying, you can, you know, make your money on the back end, you know what I'm saying, man. And these are just the type of things that I, you know, like my man, Steve Love, you know, Forte International, Pixie Paula. On the back end, I'm helping them with all those deals. The Boosie Juice and all that stuff. When Boosie came to KOD, I'm the one talking to my man Arcanelli at KOD. I'm doing the deal.

I got Arcanelli to buy $20,000 worth of liquor. I do a lot of backhand stuff. I'm going to teach these brothers business because, fortunately, I'm educated on a lot of levels. You know, I got a lot of business sense, you know. And like you said, being a former pimp, I could teach these brothers how not to get pimped by the industry. So that's what we're doing with the Hip Hop Fraternity,

just waking brothers up throwing an alarm clock in the graveyard, you know, because what you go through, you grow through, you know. And if they can change their mentality, they can change their reality, so we just want them to, you know, get rid of that I can't and get that I can mentality, you know. What would you say to young people who, you know, see what you're doing now and want to get into that, would you tell, but they said, hey, maybe I got to start pimping first, would you encourage people to get into the pimp game? Well, no. I denounced on Breakfast Club,

I denounced pimps up, hoes down in American pimp. And the reason why is because what really happened, let me explain that. You know, if you think about Scarface, right? During the Scarface era, everybody had Scarface pictures up, right? We all had the Scarface, we was loving, loving Scarface. That was in 85, right? Also in 85 85 you had colors right you know right after that you start seeing gangs everywhere you start seeing everybody

wanted to be Scarface you start seeing drugs in all parts of the community we see didn't come with a Nino Brown New Jack City then you see brothers taking over projects he said was propaganda that was pushing on people? No, what I'm saying is that CCA, Correctional Corporation of America, and through systemic racism and white supremacy, we can see how this was engineered into our community because you've got to remember it. Right after these movies came out, what happened?

You know what I'm saying? You came out with the crime bill in 1984. 94. It was 84 with Joe Biden the crime bill in 1984? 94. Yeah, it was 84 with Joe Biden in 84 and Clinton in 94. It was two of them. No, Biden was with all of them. So it was- It was one in 84 and one in 94.

86, 88, and 94. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what that did was that created sentence enhancement laws, the trigger locks. So a lot of brothers started going to penitentiary. And the prison system in 1976 was 240,000 2024 it's 2.5 million it's america's five percent of the world population and it has uh uh uh uh 25 percent of the world incorporates incarceration this is what i'm finna say 25 percent of the world's incarceration five percent of the world's population in terms of eligible people that go to jail, it's only 6% of African Americans,

excluding women, children, and old folks and, you know, disability. So it's only 6%. So 6% of eligibility represent 12.5% of the people that's incarcerated in the world. That is engineering, my brother. You know what I'm saying? That is not an accident. That's not a coincidence. I think Chancellor William called it the destruction of the black civilization. that is engineering, my brother. You know what I'm saying? That is not an accident. That's not a coincidence.

I think Chancellor William called it the destruction of the black civilization. Brother Kawanza Kajupu called it the conspiracy to destroy young black boys. You know, Dr. Nami Akbar said, you know, the psychological images and changes of slavery. You know, you hear Dr. Claude Anderson up here. That's my favorite person to listen to. Love Dr. Claude.

You know, Claude said, you know, there's three levels of survival. The first level is gainful employment or a job. The next level is welfare. He said the third level is crime. So if you take away welfare, which they did with our sisters, they told them you can't have the men in the house. You know, because I'm from the projects. I'm from the Robert Taylor Projects in Chicago.

So, you know, if the sisters and brothers, if the sisters are on welfare, the men weren't allowed to come in the house you know come from the projects I'm from the Robert Taylor projects in Chicago so we you know if you if the sisters and brothers on what if the sisters on welfare to me and when allowed to come in the house so you know that's automatically breaking up the black family you know and and brother Wesley Mohammed talk about the counterinsurgency drugs you know they put all these drugs in our community you know people getting high people selling drugs you know selling drugs in the addiction as well you know people getting high people selling drugs you know selling drugs and addiction as well you know the men are going to jail the children is out here by themselves the mother is single parenting and guess what brother chalamet brothers envians it's just who

raising all killers if if all our men is in jail and our women is raising the children, they raising the killers. They raising the ones that doing all the drills. So you got to have a man in the house. I always tell people, I said, the lion is the king of the jungle because of his roar. He roars. He's the mess out of the elephants in the draft.

They go crazy when they hear that. You know, and, you know, the reason why the man is the head of the household because it's Adam Apple, you know My daughter didn't if I tell her to sit down she gonna sit down mama got to tell four five six seven times You know your son six eight, right? He's six eight You know you five three you hitting on him and you tell my boys sit down go out. He's sneaking out the window He over there on 125th. He letting it go. You know Sammy. It's popping out Why because we need to reunite the

black family the black family have to come together you know men and the black man the black woman have to make some type of concession agreement otherwise you're going to continue to see all this murder and mayhem because like i said you take the man out the household take his excuses he's a deadbeat dad we agree with you the man ain't shit okay but who raising the children sisters news flash and then there was a white woman and a white man recently just got caught up what happened they killed four people remember and they put the mama and the daddy in jail y'all remember that case so so so that said president if you understand law that said president so what that means is in the near future,

when your son goes shoot up the block, possibly you could be incarcerated for it. He took his parents' gun. That was the one he took his parents' gun. Yeah. So you denounced pimping because of the negative. No. Oh, yeah.

Let me finish. Let me finish. Okay. So right after pimps up, hoes down, you know, Snoop was pimping all over. Snoop was pimping. Ludacris pimping all over the world. T.I. got pimped, scar clipped, 50 cent P.I.M.P. Right after that, human trafficking laws.

Initially, on 2020, they said it was about foreigners coming over here and bringing young foreigner girl. Next thing you know, it became a domestic law and locked up a lot of young black men and i'm complicit right because i'm a part of the pimps up holds down unbeknownst to myself but that pimps up holds down that whole era when nothing but a plot in a plan because you know all the niggas um all the brothers stopped selling drugs you know what i'm saying so they stopped selling drugs because it would they get they they peep oh man you can get life for this. So they gave us another. Every time we come up with something and we get hip to it,

they come up with something else. They introduce another thing. And Hollywood is complicit as well. You know, that's what I'm trying to say. It's all about Hollywood. Hollywood did Pimps Up, Hold Down. Why would HBO do something called Pimps Up, Hold Down than Liongate do American Pimp?

And then right after that, you see laws follow it. Scarface, New Jack City, right after you see laws follow it. So, you know, as a conscious brother, you know, who's intelligent, I got to say I denounce Pimps Up, Hold Down and American Pimp so young people can see that that's not the way, you know. And, you know, I'm driving Rolls Royces and Mercedes and, you know, Rolexes and stuff, and I ain't selling no drugs. You know what I'm saying? I mean, you know, I'm living in Buckhead in Atlanta.

You know, I'm doing pretty well for myself, and I'm not selling drugs. I want young people to know that you don't have to take that route. That's why we got the gangs, we got the Bloods, the Crips, the GDs, the Vices, they're all under one umbrella. They in my organization, and I got them coexisting with each other. So on Monday night when we have our meetings in Atlanta, it's the most peaceful night because we stopping a lot of young people from killing each other. We're glad you changed your life, Pimpin' Ken.

Tell them where to find you. Yeah, you can find me at realpimpken underscore. That's on Instagram. If you want to join the hip-hop fraternity, you go to hhfmedia.com. If you want to get my book you can go I'd like to do it uh I will go to audible.com type in pimp and ken you get my my book uh the 40 laws of game and pimpology and uh oh yeah you can reach me uh james cb gray on all platforms also hhf underscore ceo on instagram uh also we just launched the new york city chapter

of hip-hop fraternity the other night at the harlem shark bar you know it was amazing uh definitely want to thank g-dep for coming out um push fashion inc for coordinating everything and we had a great crowd so we're going to be doing this uh once month at the Harlem Shark Bar. Any artists that want to come out and perform, you know, you can contact me through my Instagram, JamesCBGray. It's open to everybody. We got an open mic. And this is a platform that we're using to increase membership, but also give up and coming artists an opportunity to showcase their talent, to prepare themselves for bigger stages, but also to be part of a positive organization such as Hip Hop Fraternity, which is encouraging our artists to not only be great, but be educated about the music industry as well. Oh, you got to get Mike Fresco.

He got 20 billion fans. Come on, let's face it. Keep streaming. It bounce when she walk, bounce when she walk, and keep streaming, throw it in the circle. Shout out to Bobby for keep doing, shaking that thing in the circle, too. We in this thing, HHF. Shout out to y'all, too.

Okay, thank you. And a shout out to the OGs. Y'all can catch me on OGs, too, on Trigger Alert. You know, those are the two shows that I'm on. OG. Y'all seen OGs yet? Man, Bishop, Don Juan, all of them on there. It's about OGs saying things that I'm doing.

We're talking positive, you know, getting Mr. Rick, he's the spearhead of it. We just telling all the young people to stop the game. So all the big time game members and hustlers, they on there.

You know, and then Trigger Alert, that's where we talk about male and female issues, you know, me and Ugly Money and Biz. Yeah. All right.

Well, we appreciate you for joining us, fellas. Thank you. And it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up. In And it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up. In the morning.

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