The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Kenya Moore Speaks On Acting, Finalizing Her Divorce, RHOA Ratings + More

Episode Date: February 6, 2024

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We have Kenya Moore. Welcome. This is Kenya Moore. Yes, thank you. Yeah. How you feeling this morning? I feel good. You look good.

You look good. Yes. Thank you. No sleep, but you know. No sleep. Yes, 4 a.m. My daughter's here. Okay.

Okay. So she helicopters in the bed you know turns around kicks turns she twirls in the bed she's 5 she just turned 5 yeah she just turned 5 yes we had like a

wonderful birthday party for her she was a princess Disney princesses and all that I expect nothing other than that with the mother she had you know custom everything and i know you talk real when you start when you talk about being you put your head down like lord well you're here for uh the carlicia gather story yes now for people that don't know uh

break down who she is she was a young lady abducted and yes she was smart enough to leave clues so so break it down and police were able to find her abductor i mean you just told the story no so it's the carliscia gaither story um abducted off the street it's a lifetime movie it's going to be premiering on Saturday. We're so excited. I'm so excited. But it was a young lady. It was like all in the news. She's from Philadelphia. She was a nurse's assistant. She was 22 and

she was walking home after a family gathering and there was this, you know, crazy guy, psycho killer, rapist who basically snatchers, you you know you tell your kids you know you better be careful because somebody can snatch your ass and that's exactly what

happened he forced her into the car but she was smart enough that she started leaving little clues like making him like go to the ATM machine and use her her ATM card to you know so of course there's a trail on that

she dropped certain things that they would get out of the store like her her cut her handcuffs and things like that so she was just like really really cognizant of I need you guys to find me and this is how you can so she was just leaving clues

and she ended up getting rescued within 772 hours yeah yeah just leaving clues um and she ended up getting rescued within seven 72 hours wow that's amazing yeah it's like the hood handling gretel or something yeah it was intense so i play her mom i know yes yes i know i look too young to play this girl's mom because we was definitely gonna say that okay and the mom's name is keisha yeah her name is Keisha. And she was just really determined, really determined to find her child. And the one thing about this story is, you know, when we come up missing black women, black girls, the news coverage is not there. It's just like such a disparity in the way they cover us going missing and the way they cover other people going missing. So white people.

Yes, others. And so I love this for us i love this for lifetime because they've like taken on this initiative to highlight all of these black girls missing stories and like a series that lifetime is doing yeah um but yeah but her um back to you know the role that i play it's a really serious role for me I haven't been a lead in a movie in a long time so I'm just excited you know she's tough she's brave and she's like you know in a way

very controlled she's a thinker she's not like emotional like oh what happened to my baby you know Fallon I didn't want to play her like that I wanted to play her controlled and like methodic did you talk to the mom? did you get a chance to talk to the mom and see what her mental was?

no no no they've been active like you know the story is pretty fresh so she's not she didn't come to the set but she's been talking to producers and writers Carlicia and but it's really you know it's still

really kind of fresh. So I don't know if you'll ever like really talk to her, see her anytime soon. Did you get to meet Carlicia? How involved was she? No, not either. No, Carlicia's the one who's been like giving her, you know, her accounting of what happened. But yeah, she hasn't been seen. She may show up, but I'm

not sure. But I just respect the fact that through all the pain and I mean the ordeal the man almost killed her he raped her multiple times so she survived and she was determined like her sole focus was I need to get

home to my family did you take this role after I can't remember the lady's name but after the girl who was on the side of the road said she's seen a white baby walking down that was I shot it yeah I shot it before that I shot it before but imagine like they're kind of parallel but obviously one was lying

but the fact that she was trying to capitalize off of like someone kidnapping her abducting her so that was like and then to see a real story you know like this yes play out like that that has to be a real story, you know, like this, yes. Play out like that. That has to be, I just make you feel bad. Exactly.

Like girl, this stuff is really happening. Girls are not coming home and you over here playing with us, playing in our faces. So as a mother, how did you relate to the role? Like how did it do? Was it very sensitive for you? Some parts just because you are a mom. Yeah. It was tough because in my mind,

I put the script down when I read it the first time I think I read 10 pages and then I was like, oh, I can't do this. I was like, yeah, no, this one is not for me because it did like hit,

hit close to home. I think a mother's biggest fear, especially a mother of a, of a, of a daughter, a girl, you want to protect them at all costs. And your biggest fear is something will happen to them. And so when I read the first scenes of her being snatched, her being, you know, raped, all that stuff, I was like, oh, I can't do this, you know raped all that stuff I was like oh I can't I can't do this you know and then I thought about okay let me why why did this script come to me because I think it's a higher it's it's

it's it's a deeper reason why projects come to you or work comes to you I think it's divine steps so I said let me let me look at this in a different way. Why should I do it? Awareness. Yeah, awareness. Because honestly, the way that the story is written in the movie unfolds, it will save lives. If you watch this movie, you will get ahead of situations. You will avoid situations. You will know what to do in situations to basically survive and get back home, you know? So I said, you know, if I can help to save lives, especially with girls and women who look like me, that's all the reason I needed to, like, overcome my fear. I wonder how triggering this is for the family,

like, when they watch it, and for, you know, Carlicia, like, when she watches it. Like, you kind of got to relive all of that. Yeah, you do. I don't know. You know, we haven't had an opportunity to talk to her, but I think she was just so brave to tell her story. you kind of got to relive all of that. Yeah, you do. I don't know. You know, we haven't had an opportunity to talk to her, but I think she was just so brave to tell her story.

But she has two kids. You know, I know that she's focusing on that. She had two kids before the situation? I've seen photos. It's actually a photo at the end of the movie, and the children are fairly young, two little boys little boys I think so I'm not exactly sure but you know she's focusing on being a mom so can you imagine like

being able to talk about I think she had them after I think yeah I want to ask I know you're a housewives OG see now we all get into that we talked about the movie Why You Here you're a housewives OG Steve now we gonna get into that I have to ask

we talked about the movie Why You Here and Lifetime February 10th 8th 7th century we got the work done okay what is it Candy recently said she's not doing housewives anymore what's your thoughts after 14 years I heard you behind the scenes saying how happy you were that she's not coming back no you know Charlotte

how happy she was that was a. No, you know, Charlotte. How happy she was. That was a lot. Mumbling. Mumblings and rumblings, you know. No, so I knew she had told me before that she had made the decision. And sometimes, you know, you may need a break. You know, she's doing a lot of things.

That girl is a mini mogul, you know. She's doing, she's got her hands in some of everything. And she's very successful. And honestly, money just matriculates around Kani, you know. For years. For years. Like, Kani, she's got the Midas touch. Whatever she touches turns to gold.

So she is going to be obviously all right financially i think she might just be like you know i want to explore some other things i think is because they did take so long to try to figure out who's coming back what are they doing with the cast so i'm happy for her you know i think she's chasing her dreams she's happy her relationship is great her family is good um i remember they announced they were getting rid of everybody at one point, didn't they? There were rumors. They didn't announce there were rumors. That's what I felt like. They were trying to do

like, they were saying that they possibly could do a recast like New York did. But I'm like, no, you can't get rid of everyone. It's too many. We are the OGs of the network. You know what I mean? We were the crown jewel of Bravo above all the other shows.

So hopefully we can get back to that. You think the show lost its luster? People say the ratings were low. That is a complete lie. The ratings never drop. We are in the top five of all of the shows on Bravo. So how are our ratings doing poorly?

That's just, again, things people say because of their perception of what they're looking at. In terms of, oh, I don't like this season. Which, you know, people always complain about seasons. And then they'll start saying, yeah, that's why the ratings are low. But they're

comparing, they have to look at the ratings for the network and how people are watching tv now so before they would always release live ratings but the ratings count their plus 10 numbers so they're plus threes they're plus sevens they're plus tens that's what they look at and even our live ratings are again on par with the top five on the entire network so what are you that it's just rumors people i believe that they like to be in the comments and that

is the comments oh these two oh yeah because people was saying that the comments you know and people say that but you know people have their favorites and everything is opinionated but I want to ask you

it took you three years to finalize your divorce. Well, congratulations for you. Thank you. That's why we got the balloons for you. Ice free. You got me blown. Yes, ma'am. You lying.

This is your finalization. This is for your divorce. That's for Jeff's first day over there. I love it. love it this is amazing why did the judge still didn't sign off yet okay so the paperwork is there so i'm waiting every day i'm checking online to see if he um signed off he didn't yet foolishness yeah you know i'm one i'm very sensible like i know what y'all might think of me on TV or whatever I'm on a show but I am very reasonable if you sit down and you talk to me and you make sense okay I didn't think we should

ever go to court I think we didn't have any property together we didn't build anything together we had a child we can agree on the child support because he was already paying a number already I'm like I'll take this'm not going to ask for more or less. And let's just, you come in and you leave with what you came in, you know, with you leave with what you came in with. And that's what it should have been. And I don't think that all the money that we spent for him fighting me, he ended up with less than what he started with.

And I'm out of three years of tuition for my child to go to school. So he wanted more? What did he want? Because it seems like, like you said, you come in when I came in. Drama. That's what he wanted. Drama. He wanted drama. He started off, the line just kept moving. At some point I was like, here you go.

This is what you want? Here you go. And the line kept being moved on what he wanted. Then it it was this then it was that and then he had the nerve to want now you remember how he was saying he didn't want to be on tv yeah okay and then so he at the end he supposedly had some opportunity to be on tv and he wanted to film with my daughter and i was like but that's why i sued you to begin with because you you wouldn't sign the release for brooklyn to film with me someone who's been on the show for 10 years and then you want to say oh well if i go i'm taking brooklyn with me so i'm like yeah no no no that's the one thing i i stood on business with yeah because i'm like

that's the one thing you're not going to take i take care of this child 24 7 and it is my right as the primary custodial parent to be able to allow her to do whatever i want her to do right and he tried to basically remove that right for me when it comes to him because he wanted to do his little tv show yeah because that there was a statement that he tried to undo your rights he did yeah when it. When it comes to that, yeah. He had a whole TV show? He supposedly, he told me that, yeah, that they were filming. He wanted Brooklyn to film or he doesn't say a lot of details on purpose. So, but now I have sole custody.

I was going to say, is he still doing that? Okay. No, no. The judge awarded me sole custody. It sounds like he didn't want to let you go. It was that. He didn't want, he wanted his marriage. I know people see It sounds like he didn't want to let you go. It was that. He wanted his marriage. I know people see and say things, a lot of crazy stuff on TV.

At the end of the day, that man will not sign those papers because if you want somebody to leave and y'all don't have anything together, why are you sitting here fighting? I'm not arguing with you about child support. What else is there? Why can't he just be honest about it? Why can't he just come to you and say, Kenya, I want to work. He did. He did did he did before and um and i was just like at some point i was like it's too toxic um they're not doing the work you know he wasn't doing the work to me he needed to go to therapy and then we needed to go together i always go to therapy you know i think

that it's a great thing I think so many years it's been like this dark stigma of you know black people think you know oh therapy what are you crazy you know saying things like that but it is so beneficial to to just learning about yourself how you interact with people it's just necessary so I was just like well you keep saying you want the marriage but you're not doing the work and then at some point I was just like, well, you keep saying you want the marriage, but you're not doing the work. And then at some point I was just like, yeah, I'm okay. Yeah, I'm okay. What if he started doing the work now?

Oh, well, apparently he has a fiance now. So I don't know. Jesus. That was fast. She's black and white. So? Is she black or white? She's not black.

Wow. James Kenya Moore Jesus I want to ask how you feel about that though come through with the breakfast club exclusive how do you feel about him and his white fiance she didn't say white no she didn't say white she said she had black

there's so many other right races I don't really care what she is good good luck to her that's yeah you know good luck and at some point that's all you can do is wish the next woman i wish you well it's not my problem anymore please judge hurry up and sign my papers and then that's it you know i i just feel a relief like i this is like the new era me i'm gonna do any and everything that I want to do I feel like when you have someone taking up that space in your life you can't have anybody else come fill it because there's no space there they're always in the back of your mind you know doing all kind of things to try to bring you down hurt you prevent you from thriving and I feel like you know what you you're not gonna hold me

down anymore yeah so this is new era me you know know so i'm i'm actually happy it feels good when i heard that i just laughed i was like oh girl is your country falling apart feeling tired depressed a little bit revolutionary consider this start your own country i planted the flag i just kind of looked out of like this is mine i own this it's surprisingly easy there are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg.

I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I trade my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God.

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Mess with Sydney Washington and Marie Faustin on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Not girl, but you know, but yeah, girl. Yeah. So co-parenting is not an issue. Co-parenting is not an issue with co-parenting is not an issue with him at all now well he doesn't see her to co-parent so he won't

even see her no okay yeah I think the last time was like last year March yeah are you keeping that because of you or because he's just not making the effort he's not making the effort you know he's not making the effort she's here now and

he's from New York and you are in New York he lives in Williamsburg you had a party in New York? you said you had a birthday party no no no her birthday party was in Atlanta yeah he lives across the bridge and she's here and he's too busy to see her

damn how are you enjoying being single? I don't know yet. It's different. Especially these days. Yeah, it's different. But thanks to Usher, it's been a lot of activity in the DMs.

You know? When he serenaded you at the concert? Yeah, that was fun. Oh, so you mean like people saw the video and it was like damn, can you still got it fun that was fun oh so you mean like people saw the video and was like damn can you still got it yeah right like

you forgot about this but yeah he forgot about this that OG talk there he forgot about this he forgot about this you know yeah so it was

it was fun like it's interesting so you dating yeah I'm dating I'm dating so where does somebody take Kenya that you love? I mean, because I remember that list came out. They can't take you to Olive Garden.

That's wrong. Olive Garden. Well, let's ask Lacey. Oh, you mean like a cheesecake, you mean? Yes, cheesecake. Oh. Because she was like, I like Olive Garden. I go to Cheesecake Factory probably twice a week, especially with my daughter.

I mean, I don't care about stuff like that. I like somebody that I can have fun with that is a good person, that's a good partner who can make you laugh. They don't have to match me dollar for dollar. You know, they just have to, I don't want to take care of anybody. But, you know what I mean? Be gainfully employed, but you don't have to

be a mega millionaire, you know, with your own yacht and private plane and all that, but just be a good person. Now we can eventually build and get there together. Yeah, we can get there together. You have to have the potential and the desire. You have to be ambitious, I think. And smart.

Yes, absolutely. I love that. I love that because you hear how some marriages, it doesn't work for women. And then they just be like, I'm not doing this anymore. And I'm giving up on love. And then here she is. She got married two years or three years later.

You just can't let one bear to the mouth. No, you can't break my soul. I know that's right. You can't break my soul. How has business been going with the hair spa? Girl, so good, right? Yeah. So it's amazing.

Like, it's learning a whole new business you know brick and mortar um my hair care line is doing well we're in like over 5 000 doors kenya more hair care you know expanding in a i don't in um in the spring to two more major retailers congratulations so i'm just it's it's growing you know what i mean it's i'm doing well you had a special clients your daughter yes yes how is that she asked and oh she did yeah i've never straightened her hair you know yeah yeah so i i don't believe in like i just little girls should just be little girls to me unless it's a special occasion like my grandmother did you know straight my hair if it was like a

birthday or like a wedding or something but it wasn't like every day what do you sell like edge edge protection stuff i sell everything like shampoo conditioners like you know stuff like that okay okay now i saw you recently to say that uh nini leaks future with real housewives of well the way you just said it yeah he did not he should be a housewife Charlamagne you are very it's a house husbands coming to you soon starring Charlamagne the guy

he's a messy one you said she doesn't have a future I didn't say she doesn't have a future with real housewives of Atlanta listen what I said was this what andy said which is our boss he decides yes or no recently when we did bravo con so the question always comes up because people love nini you know they love her and i love her too like i love her for the show been very very um clear about that and um honest about. He said Nene told me

to keep her name out of my mouth and that's exactly what I'm doing. That is what he said verbatim. I didn't make that up. Okay, it's not my fight. I don't have a dog in that fight. So that was just the answer to the question. You know, I don't know. Maybe things could change, but you know

she sued her employer. She was saying a lot of really nasty things about each and every one of, you know, the parties. I just don't know how you can come back from that. But, hey, I'm a forgiving person. So maybe there are people at the network and others that could forgive. And there may be a future. I don't know what those cards say. I was just going by what our boss said.

So where did that headline come from? Because, I mean, that is the headline. Yeah, that's what I... Well, not exactly how you said it, but... It said, Kenya Moore says, Nina Leith doesn't have a future with Real Housewives. Well, I said I don't think so.

I can't call somebody's future. You know, I'm just going by what our boss said. You know, so that's it. but you do think she'd be good I've always said that I mean I've never said she wouldn't be I mean listen she was she was the breakout star of that show

and she has left a legacy behind and of course she's a mess you know you don't mean he's a mess she was online talking about her her man and he wasn't good in bed. He's this and that. I'm like, girl, why you have to put this business? How old are you talking about this man like this?

And yet, these are the things that people want to see. Yes, they like messy. They like people that don't have it together. Nobody is perfect. So if you can just take a peek at other people's lives and they're doing all kind of crazy stuff it's fun to watch it's kind of fun to watch a train wreck right that's right did you remember that conversation that was happening where they were saying how uh you know like a black reality tv star couldn't get to the heights of a kim kim kardashian yes oh that was uh oh was that? I think it was NeNe. I think it was NeNe and Carlos.

Oh, she didn't get what at the time what Kim was getting. You think it's possible for a black reality TV star to get to the Kim Kardashian level? I mean, who else is on Kim Kardashian's level, whether they're on reality TV or not?

Kim Kardashian is a billionaire mogul. Who else is on her level? Forget about reality TV or not like Kim Kardashian is a billionaire mogul and who else could like who else is on her level forget about reality yeah and then we actually watch them grow up like their whole franchise the whole family you know you can't those are apples and yeah apples and oranges

you can't compare the two but I thought it was very interesting that she tried it though she I think that was a she tried it statement yeah because it's more than reality TV like when it comes to Kim like it though she i think that was a she tried it statement yeah because it's more than reality tv like when it comes to kim like it's not just that that made her who she is yeah i mean listen there there are a lot of things that play there there are the family dynamics you know her her family came from like holly you know holly royalty. Who she dated. Who she dated. She's a stunning girl.

You know, was a stunning girl. I mean, I'll just say that. You can't compare the two. And what's for her is for her and what's for Nene is for Nene. What do you think about compensation? Do you think that, you know, the black cast members get compensated like Beverly Hills,

like Jersey, like New York. Yeah. On our network. Yeah. Nini was the highest pay. Well, Nini and then candy took over that.

But, uh, at some point, yeah, the two highest pay women on the network were two black women. So yeah, I do. Absolutely.

I can't speak for other networks. I don't really know the inner workings. I can just tell you what I know. Do you still enjoy it? I enjoy it at times, you know, sometimes it's really fun. I didn just tell you what I know. Do you still enjoy it? I enjoy it at times. You know, sometimes it's really fun. I didn't enjoy last season at all. Why not?

I just feel like it was dark. It was people just there. You know, when people come in and they're so desperate to hold a peach and they just do anything and lie and just cause commotion and it's not organic. Like when I came on, I was a mess and i was a mess because i just was you know i wasn't trying to play this or play i wasn't trying to play the the reality star i became a reality star you know what i mean just being so because i was myself i didn't i didn't watch seasons ahead of time i didn't know what anybody was doing i was just reacting to all the stuff that was going on around me and then just bringing my own

crazy life to the table. These girls now, they've had what, 15 seasons to watch us and study us. And they know and they're fans. They're coming in as fans. And they're coming in desperate to hold the peach. And that's what makes it

unfortunate because when you are desperate for something, you will do anything. And we saw that play out. And that's, to me, what was unfortunate. Like Kim Zosiak is a natural mess. You know, Nene had her own issues. She was funny, but she also had her issues that she brought. Kandi has always been the poster child for being transparent.

You know what I mean? With her mom situation and all the things that's going on. So we just kind of need to go get back to what's real. What's real? Would you want to see that? The original, the OGs, Kim, you, Portia, Nene. Would you want to see that? You think people would want to see that? Cherie,

Orla? Oh yeah, people call for that all the time. I don't think it's a possibility, but if they could make that happen, yeah, that would be cool. They need to do an ultimate girls trip and have all the OGs there. I think that would be hot, right? That would be entertaining, to say the least.

Yes. Bravo, you better run me my check for that. How hard was it when you first made the transition? Because you come from the pageant world and you got to be buttoned up and perfect. I acted for 20 plus years um before even doing uh reality so that's why i was like clueless like okay what we we don't have a schedule we don't have lines what what is this you know i didn't know what i was doing um was it you said it was what was the transition was it hard for you to

start being transparent or it was hard because you know an OG, not just by being there a long time, but I'm not 20 years old. Really? No, Kenya, stop. Cut it out. But there wasn't social media. Stars didn't talk to the media like the biggest stars never talked to the media you never saw Brad Pitt talk to you never saw you know these huge Tom Cruise never talked to the media and then once he did everything

started going crazy so we didn't have this thirst for you know blood like you see in social media now so everything you know people didn't have iPhones I had my first phone let me not tell my age let me shut up just go ahead you need to tell your age because you look good for your age but we didn't have cell phones you know what i mean we had the the phones at home your your

uh recorder you know what is it with the voice recorder when people leave you message you have to go home and press the answer. Thank you so much. She tried to bury it so far back. She forgot. But yeah, we, we,

it was a different era. So now, yeah, everything is, everything was just shocking to me. I fought social media still do. I rarely like to post, but I know it's good for business. It's not good for your health though no it's not it's so toxic and so crazy and the things

that people say like again making up stuff like just as you oh you know whatever they feel like saying they can just make up a lie and then all of a sudden it spreads and then people really believe it like even saying people are dead like you know how it is yeah i've seen a rumor run like that right like no and the person gotta be like y'all i'm here yeah exactly like why do you have to be put in a position of like fact checking yeah like if you're alive or not you know what i mean yeah i see your people in the background like okay it's time to go i gotta wrap it up talk over 45 minutes no you and Jess not related right no we could be both of y'all ask me more

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people ain't believe me but you know I just used to say yes i'm like that's my aunt people ain't believe me but you know i just said that's my aunt so yeah yeah auntie she couldn't know now i have family in virginia uh louisiana um primarily but not not boston yeah it's all right so now they know it's a lie well tell them when they can catch out check out the Lifetime show Abducted Off The Street Abducted Off The Street is coming out on Saturday at 8pm on Lifetime everybody please support this movie this is how we're going to bring our black girls who are missing our black women who are

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