The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Kevin Gates Speaks On Being Purpose Driven, Healing Women, Chrisean Rock, Jim Jones + More

Episode Date: January 24, 2024

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The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. Brother Kevin Gates. Welcome back, brother.

Thank you for having me. How you feeling? Why you laughing, man? You look clean, my brother. Yes, you do. Man, I should have did this off the air. What? What?

You promised me that last time that if I brought you the book, that you would autograph it. Oh, that's easy. You got to put the one that's going to be worth money, though. Put the signature work that's going to be worth money. I need both of my books autographed. I got you. I do that before the interview over. I got you.

I got you. Well, how you feeling, brother? How do I look? Amazing my books autographed. I got you. We'll have to do that before the interview over. I got you. I got you. Well, how you feeling, brother? How do I look? Amazing. You look great and amazing. I just ran a mile. You look happy. In like six minutes before I came over here.

Really? Outside or in a hotel on the treadmill? On the treadmill. Yeah. That's your routine in the morning? What's your morning routine? Yoga. Just movement.

I'm going to say just movement moving about around raising my frequency man inside running is easier than outside running you got deal with the elements I like outside running more I don't know it's just when I'm outside it's just like I like to be going somewhere. 24 degrees though outside today. I just was outside at the lamb truck with shorts on and a hoodie. For real. That's cryotherapy for me. When you subject your body to cold temperatures, what it does is in order for it to stay warm,

your body kill off all your bad cells, all your inflammation and things of that nature. So it was therapeutic in nature for me what got you into your knowing yourself and knowing your body so so well how did you get on that journey i used to do drugs and drugs used to make me feel good and i believe that rehab is for quitters so i never been to rehab so now it's like i do things that make me feel good working out makes me feel good. I'm addicted to it now. Before I work out in the morning, don't talk to me. I'm going to grouch. I'm going to curse everybody out.

Just let me get this workout out the way. And then after that, hey, I'm good. I can be of service now. You know the beauty of what you said? Most people will say that about coffee. Most people will say that about weed. You know what I mean? I can't talk to you until I drink my coffee.

I can't talk to you until I smoke my cigarette or smoke a blunt. The fact you said that about exercise. That's crazy that you say that those are rituals like my morning ritual is working out and that's crazy that I got a coffee brand called ritual like as far as me being one of the generals his generals ritual that's my coffee brand and that's a ritual that's one of my rituals in the morning I gotta have my coffee I gotta work out I gotta get rituals in the morning i gotta have my coffee i gotta work out i gotta get up in the morning black coffee cold shower pray stretch work out and you on then i then i can be of service but before that don't talk to me i'm a grouch

man the thing i love about you too kevin man when i listen to the ceremony everything you saying right now reflects in the music every like, like, every single thing. You call it medicine music. Medicine music. Talk to me about what medicine music is to you. The music that raises your frequency. Like, I used to just play a lot of songs on live, like, because when I'm working out in the gym, I like to hear something positive but hard.

So I got this one song on there called The Ceremony where I'm talking to myself and I'm like purpose driven I'm developing ridges you pleasure driven you develop rejection elevated and ranking my dick is not friendly I would not be distracted by women like cuz I and the reason I said it is because every time you own your purpose that's when all the distractions come when I'm trying to call and see people don't nobody got time for me. Like, soon as it's payday, everybody call you.

They know your, they just, like they got a magic pinger or a blinker or something that let them know that you just got some money or your energy up. That's when all the distractions come when you doing what you supposed to be doing. I want you to expound on that, because that was one of the lines I love from Ceremony when you said you was purpose driven

over being pleasure-driven. I think we in an era right now where everybody's pleasure-driven, man. When you pleasure-driven, you develop addictions. And what I mean by that is any feeling going to get old to you. So you're going to constantly be chasing a greater feeling. That's why people become addicted to drugs or whatever they become addicted to. I done became addicted to things that's gonna raise my frequency such as working out and fitness and things of that nature so that's what I mean by if you

purpose driven and you stay on your purpose like I say on one of my other songs if you looking for a microwave blessing it won't happen that's right now you also say earlier you said you know rehab was for quitters so that's for quitters my question is so how did you get over the drug addiction you said you had and some of those negative addictions you had? Hey, you know something? If you go back to one of the old interviews on here, I was in here drinking lean in a coffee cup.

Really? Yeah. I had a coffee cup with a lid on it. I was drinking syrup in an interview. Wow. I was a junkie. I had to have it or my body would ache if I didn't have it ain't nothing but heroin addiction is a disease yeah of course I don't know why people don't look at it like that was a disease yeah so I

replaced that habit with another habit I didn't just go cold turkey I had to replace my unhealthy habits with healthy habits and as I kept going and going and going you know I start getting into body hacks like if you take this it'll give you more energy if you take that it'll make you it'll make you focus better like saffron it'll make you focus it's just like Adderall if you take uh sea moss and she legit and all that so I just started getting in all that if you drink beet juice it'll take all the soreness out of your muscles because it's high in nitrous oxide so I just got to look in that body head. It's like, what could make me perform better so I can get an even greater feeling?

And it's a never-ending journey. It don't stop. What was the test? Was it a near scare? Was it a friend of yours that was close that almost passed? What was the reason you'd be like, no, today's the day I'm going to change? I was embarrassed into working out. And it was beautiful.

I was embarrassed into getting in shape because when I was beautiful. I was embarrassed in this, getting in shape because when I was fat and I had titties, when I would walk in the room, I would look for the flowers and everybody in the room

and I would expound on those flowers so no one would pay attention to me. You're projecting. I was projecting so no one would pay attention to me.

But when I had my shirt off at the video shoot, I'm like, yeah, I'm Trap House sexy. I'm on the block sexy. That was a facade. I'm holding a baby. The baby trying to suck my titty. Everybody looking.

They laughing, but it's one of them laughs like, you don't want me to see you laughing. So they like. And then I see the baby leaning. That's the most embarrassing shit in the world when you holding a child. And the child innocent, he don't know no better. He's leaning back, really trying to suck your titty.

I hear, man, take this baby. And everybody fell off laughing at me. And I felt like the worst in the world. I was like, so it was anger. It was embarrassment. It was everything. And I couldn't be mad at everybody because, shit, the baby, you know what I'm saying? The baby was trying to suck my titty. And after after that that's what just made me say you know what

I ain't fucked that man I'm about to get in shape I'm tired of being a fat slob and then everybody watch when I got on the on Instagram and I said that prayer I'm like God just make me lose all this weight today, God. I'm tired of being a fat slob. I don't wanna be the fat rapper no more. And everybody just follow my progress and my journey since 2018. You really worked out. You wasn't like an Ozempic gold medalist.

You wasn't doing none of that, right? What that is? Ozempic is the shot that everybody's taking now. It's a shot. No, sir. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You notice people that take that shot, they head be bigger than they body you notice that absolutely they hear it be big it look like you're right look like a lollipop i'd be like what right they hear be bigger than they buy it it look like they be

disproportioned even people that go get surgery like not women i don't know what women they be looking good when they do it but like a lot of the men that I see that go get surgery they head be bigger than they batted like it is it's disproportion like it's I rather just be disciplined because if I cheat my way cheaters never win I'ma hold myself accountable that's right like I just come off a seven-day fast right before my listening party I ain't eat nothing for seven days no food at all no food at all so just a liquid or just liquid I've been longer than that though but I just needed clarity and whenever things get too clouded for my just don't

eat nothing Wow when you say rehab is for quitters are you discouraging rehab are you yeah cuz some people mind isn't strong enough to just quit things cold turkey some people need to go to rehab enough to just quit things cold turkey. Some people need to go to rehab and have other people there to hold them responsible, hold them accountable. Quitters. But that's the point. You want to quit the drugs.

No, I'm going to replace unhealthy habits with healthy habits. I see what you're saying. Because once I start working out, that lean starts tasting like drugs to me. Once I started sweating out and detoxing my body, when I drink, I be like, shit tastes like drugs. And me wanting better for myself made me not want to fuck with that. I'm not about to sit around for you to come pat me on my ass and all that and tell me it's going to be okay, Kevin, little Kevin. That's not what the world going to do, Kevin.

So I can't talk about what nobody else going through I got to hold myself accountable rehab is for quarters I can't get up there and say now somebody's gonna say that's fucked up he said it now I take self-accountability it may sound harsh but I'm gonna beat myself up so the world can't beat me up because the world is a cruel place it can be a beautiful place if you allow it to be. I want your perspective changes. That's what miracles have. But I'm not, I don't need nobody.

I don't need to go sit in front of nobody and they tell me, yeah, the first key is admitting you have a problem. I told myself I got a problem. I talked to myself. I'm in tune with myself. I'm calling twice as big into me, and I say that because I'm calling this female, calling this female, hey, Kevin, stop calling that hoe whole fuck that oh you stay on your

purpose when she come back you ain't gonna have time for I talked to myself people may say I'm crazy but I'm winning that's how I process things is talking to myself on the song broken men you you talk oh my god I can't believe this is probably your best album to me uh-oh but I'm't believe you. I love Broken Men, man. Oh my God. I think that this probably your best album to me. But on Broken Men, you talk about a person who told you things would fall apart if y'all split. That's a true story? That's a true story. I had somebody tell me that if we wasn't together

that everything would fall apart. You know, this some old, but they told me that, and I was like, and that affected me. I never said nothing about it, but that was kind of part of my drive. Like, I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna hustle so hard, you gonna have to see me. And if you don't see me, you gonna have to hear about me.

And that was part of my motivation. And in doing all of those things, like kind of like the great Gatsby, he did all of, if you've never seen the movie, he did all of these things, these great feats, only to show somebody else his worth. So I did all of these things just to realize that external things never add value, anything external. And it was like, the reason I called it broken me because so many men go through that feeling inadequate not feeling good enough feeling like they only as good as they ability to their ability to provide and to do and because I still feel like that sometime like like what can I give did I

do enough and things of that nature but I hate to sound like one of them people that them what you call them you one of them people that uh them what you call them them uh you know them positive people that motivational speaker i hate this not not them guru no the ones that they go hiking and with you hippies they're your sponsor they said hippies accountability partner yeah they'll tell you you are enough oh motivational people what do you mean it's like a sponsor like a positive sponsor like your sponsor positive sponsor yeah i hate to sound like one of them but you are enough like anything external doesn't add value you are enough i didn't know

i was enough till i got to really know myself and i'm like man i'm fly and that's kind of like um i still like to wear jewelry and stuff for my brother, but at my listening part, I ain't even wear no jewelry. Emmett came and gifted me with this watch I had never seen before, and then I just put it on. I said, I ain't even gonna wear no jewelry.

I am the jewelry. Wow. Dope. I think in a situation like that, back to what you were saying, a lot of times your partner or your friends around you should be instilling that into you. That's why you talk about positive energy and your friends and positive frequency.

Yeah. I didn't have that around me coming from where I came from. So a lot of times when somebody could see your greatness, they'll say things to put themselves on the same level as you. So you won't think too much of yourself because you might get away from them. And you know, misery loves company question was that person right the person who told you things wouldn't work out for you if y'all split look at me for the moment i'm talking about in that moment look at me yeah yeah yeah look at me absolutely trying to find the love within. I've been thinking about you and I can't pretend. I'm falling in love once again. No longer looking for love, I decided to let you in.

Yeah, come on, man. We don't talk about the inspiration that women can provide like that. We just heard Rod Wave say the same thing. He was like, he got on his grind musically because his girlfriend at the time was a super NBA young boy fan. I go back and tell her thank you all the time was a super nba young boy fan i go back and tell her thank you all the time thank you for not believing in me see i still have a good relationship yeah we're glad you're not believing me well i don't know where she at right now okay

you know i thank you back then what did she say when you say that to her she cried hey she missed me missed out i'm so serious i'm turned up here. I got beautiful children and shit, and our life goes on. Now, speaking of turnt up, did you really go to a Beyonce concert and turn up at a Beyonce concert? Fucker. But look, this is what happened. I paid for my nannies, all my nannies to go to the concert. So you remember when they was supposed to come to New Orleans?

Mm-hmm. So they had everybody was outside, just outside. So I'm like, ooh, we're going go, because I've been going. I went to a Drake concert. I went two nights in a row to Drake. I went to see Usher. You know, I'm just on that end, like, just steadying all of the greats. So, you know, if you go to New Orleans,

it's a party outside before you even go inside. So I was bam, bam, bam, bam, you know. And it just, it you know and it just it was a party outside before was a party inside so that was like I'm beyond turn so you really turn during that time yes Lord if I come out the shirt I love to come out my shirt mm-hmm I mean look at me I just I love to come out my shirt I love to take it off now I used to hate that just I used to wear layers now I can't wait to come out my shirt yeah come on love to take it off now. I used to hate to just, I used to wear layers. Now I can't wait to come out of my shirt.

I'll come out that bitch right now. You ever wonder where the titties went? You ever look in the mirror and be like, man, it gone. It was dietary issues. It was dairy. It was the dairy I was eating. I still do a little dairy every now and then, but it gotta be done in moderation

because it'll cause you to have that little layer of fat like up under your nipples that men have. Most men don't notice. You still got abs way uphill. You know what I'm saying? And that's what tighten it up, and dips tighten it up also. I thought I was going to have to get that little fat removed. It scared me, but I noticed once I changed my diet

and started working those areas, I ain't got no problem. I'm together, no. Now back to the Yonsei Freestyle. BG is on that record. BG and Sexy Red. One of the first, yeah, BG and Sexy Red. But this was one of the first times we've heard a BG verse. So was you and BG cool?

How did you and BG link for this one? Because this is the first verse I heard, and he's spitting. I've been knowing him because he's like a friend of the family. Like I got cousins that know him, like Minis. I got Boobie. That's my brother. He know him. He grew up with him.

And I've been knowing him for a couple years, probably like 13 years. We ain't seen each other in about 13 years. I probably knew him a couple years before that. Maybe like we met like 2007, 8 or something. But through friends of the family, we always just been kind of cool. But the whole time he was in prison, we always sent him pictures and looked out for him and things of that nature. So his journey was our journey. He was with us.

When we was in Germany, he had the pictures and everything. Like we walked him all the way down his whole bed. For people that don't know what that means, walked him down his whole bed. We jostled him. We sent pictures to him. You know, we kept him all the way down his whole bed. For people that don't know what that means, walked him down his whole bed. We josted him. We sent pictures to him. You know, we kept his spirits lifted. So when he came home, it was just only right.

It was only right. Like, it was beautiful. It was historic in nature to me. He's a legend to me. I love the way he sound because sometimes, you know, somebody will get locked up and they come home after a while and they got that old flow on them. But he sound sounds i think he better than no sound he get up and work out every morning and everything he on his workout shit and go straight to the studio so i think this

situation made him better than no yeah you know you talk on this album a lot uh about cleaning your sins what does cleaning your sins look like? What kind of sins? I don't know. Cause some sins people will say, some sins people will say like, that they did something bad, they need forgiveness for it. Some sins you gotta forgive yourself for. So what are those sins you talking about? Cause to me everything seems like,

like you said, a self-awareness journey, a reflection. You talking about when I say, healing, felt it was floating on top of my head, cleaning my sins, all of my sins. Okay. You know, when I go up on a mountain, I ask God for forgiveness.

Hey, forgive me for the things that I did unknowingly. Forgive me the things I did unknowingly. Just forgive me. And then I forgive myself so I don't keep looping in it what does that feel like do you feel it like you feel something removed from you or yeah something come off your spirit you can feel it like you could sit right here and say on this holy divine day I hereby release all the energy that no longer serve my higher self and you're gonna feel lifted because we empaths we pick up on energy everywhere we go now some stuff a lot of people say that i did

they look at it as sins but i don't look at it as sins i look at it that that needed to be done so them ain't the sins i'm talking about i need forgiveness for if i did that i meant that because some things you know it just had to go like that what you mean like discipline like violence yeah yeah standing up for myself you know because the you know a lot of times people don't learn from just talking pain sometimes has to be the greatest motivator from what i learned is your country falling apart feeling tired depressed a little bit revolutionary consider this start your own country i planted the. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy.

There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capriburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I create my own country? My forefathers did that themselves.

What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help!

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Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's actually better when you... I don't feel like self-defense is a crime. No, not at all. And it's actually better when you got a clear mind because you know you're not projecting your pain and hurt onto somebody.

So you know you're only defending yourself. I don't operate like that, but I'm big on respect. I'm super big. I'm still big on respect. Because at the end of the day, that's all have mm-hmm but I leave with my respect first but they got some people there and I tell my children as I love y'all I do and I'm a great father but some people do have to know me as a monster because that's the only way that they will stop hmm I love a bird birds calling to man when you say you Apollo Santo big

torch lighter you say prayers more important than exotic cars and to me with it intentional to put lyrics like that in a song called birds calling because people will see the title and think something yeah it was intentional because like I said I got a new coffee brand called ritual mm-hmm it's all right now and it was beautiful because I went back to the trap but instead of flipping bricks it was keys of coffee and that was the beautiful thing about it like some people say he's glorifying this glorifying that no i'm not i'm turning the negative into a positive i just got the key to the city in baton rouge and i got the key to the city in new orleans and i never

thought that what i was doing was helping people like but what I'm doing like helping other people here is really me helping myself here mm-hmm you got two songs on the album with the healing title one is called healing the other one is called thanks man you don't proud of you I think you doing amazing every song I'm gonna talk to myself Every song Like every song I'm talking to myself I don't think you can heal anybody though Cal I can You think so?

Yes Lord You said you can heal a woman Yes I think a person has to want to go get healing I heal shit Yes Lord You just touch them like how you start the car engine? No I don't heal

You heal at what point? You know my touch is healing But you know I heal shit though You really think you can heal a woman i don't think i know can you i think you can assist them show them the direction maybe gonna be a new creature when she leave from around me well you can't start with calling her a who the person you healing that's only in private and public is bay and love and all of that but in private bitch it's a term of endearment bitch you so beautiful oh bitch Lord yes Lord amen God thank you God bless the hand that prepared this meal we bout to say our grace but you can't go around just healing everybody

you made me have a flashback now here everybody don't deserve here that's what I'm saying okay mm-hmm everybody don't deserve healing because they might be here for a week then they just go back to their same that same behavior then I got to put them on dick restriction restriction you had to put girls on degree sir how long was the longest you ever did I do I start with 90 days. And you tell them that? You're like, damn.

Yeah. The first offense, 90 days. So what's the offense? What's the offense? I don't know. It depends on, you know, code of conduct is big with me, you know? So what's the code of conduct? What do you have a problem with?

We just trying to get some of this gang in. Every relationship is different. So what's part of? It ain't that, but you know, like, I believe that honesty is the best policy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, when I meet you, I'm going to tell you the truth. I'm going to tell you how I'm living. This is how I'm living.

Now, if you accept it or reject it, this is how I'm living. Have you ever had girls reject it? Like, I'm not doing no 90-day dick restriction. No, they don't. That 90-day don't go like that. They just end up being like, look, you keep on,

I'm going to put you on dick restriction. So you still go out, you just, they get no dick? No, I'm just, you know, like I say, rejection is a beautiful thing. I reward loyalty with loyalty. I reward disloyalty with distance. You know, you think about what you did, you know what I'm saying? If you not, this not peaceful.

I'm not gonna be nowhere that's not peaceful. I'm not gonna be nowhere that's gonna lower my frequency. That's just where I'm at with it. Like I ain't trying to be, you know, I ain't trying to make the blogs for, you know, talking like this, but yeah, this how I'm coming. Have you ever been on vagina restriction? Who me?

Bye. Bye. comment have you ever been on vagina restriction who me bye bye i can't i already i already had it like you don't know glitter and lightning both shoot out that motherfucker with all due respect baby but what if you got what if you make an offense what if you do something she don't like like what i don't know you already knew what i was when you met me damn you already knew like with all due respect like see i don't know why i be meeting killers that's scared to tell a woman the truth like when you tell a woman the truth you give her the option honesty is the best policy women have intuition and the reason i'm truthful with a woman because they're spiritual they are spiritual creatures they can transform liquid into something physical.

So they already know you foolish. That's real. When they meet you, they already know. Like, they know what's up with you. Like, so, babe, where you been fucking, baby? You going to help me wash these sins off me? You going to help me wash these sins off me? You want me to help you pack which one, baby? Like, what are we going we gonna do one of the two

cuz you know either she gonna leave but she gonna stay so you gonna help me watch these sins off you are you gonna help me pack I mean they already know like women I already know what you've been doing like I don't know why people think they don't women psychic mm-hmm I'm not about the lash I'm in God and bless me I got too many blessings so do you ever see yourself with just one woman I'm with one woman right now. What? At the moment, you know?

Yeah. When you talk about loyalty, when somebody's disloyal to you, how do you bring them back in your fold? Like, once trust is violated, that's a motherfucker, man. It ain't gonna never be the same no more. I mean, suspect evil of no one until see it. Once see it, forget it not. Once an enemy could never be a friend.

And that's just, I had to cut a lot of baggage. I had to trim a lot of fat. Like the last time we was here, I trimmed a lot of fat since then. Like with just the people around me, I started throwing away all of the wrong relationships for all of the right reasons. And sometimes we be loyal to things that's not loyal to us.

But that's just the way I'm at with it right now. Were you a forgiving person? Were you somebody that had to- Yeah, I forgive. Like I told y'all last time, I forgive. I do, but i ain't about to forget let's not be naive nobody that's right let you just do it to me again like no that's not intelligent you told another great story on healing you told a story about a woman not getting

wet for you no more and you said mentally she moved on that was impossible women women can mentally check out they can mentally move on. And you know, they have vaginal dryness. They arousal fluid not there no more because they mentally moved on. That can happen. And what do you do when a woman's in that situation? You just let her go? I mean, the proof is in the pudding.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. The proof is in the pudding. Now, proof is in the pudding now she could have been dehydrated or something because she was on the plane but i ain't got time to be here and all that you know you checked out babies mentally checked out women mentally checked out and i had to ask my mother what that what that was she said baby she might have mentally checked out damn that happens sometimes yeah but what if it is just a physical ailment? Sometimes it happens because

you not being a person that a person want you to be. I love you enough to let you go. Go find that person that you say that's better than me. Can't wait. Does that hurt? Everything hurt when you love somebody. I love for real.

But like nah, I can't wait to get my heart broke. I just use it for motivation. This shit turn me into a monster. Look at me. That's the fuel to this. Stag it on me. Do it some more. Come on, let's go.

Y'all ain't doing nothing but making me better. Every time I get mad, I'm in the gym. Let's go. This don't bother me mm-hmm it used to people don't even make me mad no more I used to be like man this nigga piss me no you just I'm just disappointed I was gonna ask that what I'm disappointed in you you know I really had a lot of respect for you here's some people that are never re-respect me. There's some people I'll never re-respect.

Because I ain't about to sit up here like I'm perfect. I done done bogus shit before. I done done lame shit before. Everybody did. I done done ho shit before. I thought that because even though I said something and I said it in dude's face, I still did some ho shit. Yeah, I said it in his face and we fought. My grandfather put me to the side. Man, that's some ho shit you did I still did some whole shit yeah I said it in his face and we fought my

grandfather put me to the side man that's some whole shit you did you did some whole shit yeah you told a girl this and this and that and yeah then you said it again come here and speak twice you said it in dude face and y'all fought and all that that's cool yeah you was a man y'all fault but you did some whole shit boy don't do that no more mm-hmm so I ain't about to sit up and act like I came out the pussy perfect you know what no more so i ain't about to sit up here and act like i came out the pussy perfect you know what i'm saying i ain't come out the pussy wearing a bandana and all that you know what with a pistol in my hand you know what i'm saying these are learned behaviors you ever look at some of the stuff that that people pick up that you've said or that goes

viral and be like they just misconstrued what i said. No. No? No, I don't really pay that no attention. I used to. Like in 2021, I used to pay attention to Instagram, but once I deactivated my page for that year and a half, I engaged with the world now because comparison is the killer of all joy. Because if I say something and they might just take a little piece of it

and it go viral, but then when you go look at the real interview, you're going like he really made a lot of sense and that's why my mama said man i don't even tell nobody i know this gonna sound weird no it don't sound weird this me i'm my authentic self people gonna either accept you or they not and that's just why i'm with it now what made you take the page away for that year and a half was it clear your mind i was depressed it was causing depression because comparison is the killer of all joy. I'm comparing my life to other people's highlight reel, and it was causing depression.

Once I got off that and started engaging with the world, I'm like, man, people love me. People love me. On the blacktop, people love me. People walk up to me and tell me, man, you changed my life. They don't really say that on instagram they say negative things all the time of course i mean i seen it i seen something the other day when i guess you're talking finesse two times and people were he said this i'm like

y'all must not know kevin oh yeah i saw that you're gonna put his legs in there no i told him if have you ever seen any flaws he said no i said if you do will you please put my feet now i mean to slam you if i do something slam me like how like you like no no blow my brains out put my feet in there oh kill you damn it kill me if i do something wrong like i'd say like i said on the other thing hey hey, find me them two niggas. Find me that one that can say he stuck his dick in me. And find me the other one that can say I told on him and sent him to jail.

You find me them two niggas, you can blow my mama brains out. I ain't never heard those rumors, Kev, by the way. Yeah, I know what you're saying. When I heard that, I was like, when the fuck somebody said that? No, I stand for something. So that's why I said that. You find me them two niggas, you can blow my brains out right here. I stand for something. Find me a nigga that can say i said that you find me them two you can blow my brains out right here i stand for something you know what i'm saying find me a that could say he stuck his dick

in me and find me a that could say that i told on him and sent him to jail find me them two and you can blow my brains out right here and i mean that i stand for that you know because only when you when you start when you start paying attention to the internet, you can get lost in it. It's the black top that matter to me. That don't matter. That's just talk. That's internet talk. And some people live their life based on social media.

But if you really get out in the real world and engage with the world, the world operates 100% different than that shit. And I think sometimes people like you and Finesse, y'all forget y'all know each other's lingo. So y'all having a conversation amongst the world. I could be honest with you. Of course. You never heard me address that, right?

Cause I really don't care what nobody think about what he mean by put your feet in the air. Hey, try me, I'll show you. I'll show you what I mean. A demonstration is way better than verbal. So like, I'll show you. Now that's it, that's it. That's it.

That's all. Like, I ain't about to address that because that's my brother. He know what I meant. And he know what I meant. And I know what he meant. So, I don't see no big deal. Hey, keep me viral. Fuck it.

I'll be out this Friday. Yeah, I'll be coming out. The ceremony. Is it true Kevin Durant gave you some advice that got you in shape too? man Kevin Durant that's my dog and DeMar DeRozan and Lethal Shooter

I ain't know so much psychology winning the basketball I started practicing with Lethal Shooter and I'm thinking I'm just going to shoot the basketball learn how to shoot the ball I started practicing with Lethal Shooter, and I'm thinking I'm just going to shoot the basketball, learn how to shoot the ball. Man, this dude assist me.

Like in psychology, you do the individualistic approach. And he did that by just based off how I shoot. You anxious, you focus on the last, you focus on your past. Wow, I like that. Wow. Don't worry about the past. Don't worry about the one you miss. Focus on the last. You focus on your past. Wow. I'm like, damn. Wow. Don't worry about the past. Don't worry about the one you missed.

Focus on the present. Stay in the present. Stay in the moment. Wow. And I'm like, damn. He picked me to pieces. And it was humbling. It was beautiful.

And then, like, with DeMar DeRozan, he showed me some shit. Kevin Durant showed me some shit. Like, it's more like playing chess than anything. And I was like, wow. Kevin Durant showed me some shit. Like, it's more like playing chess than anything. And I was like, wow. So when you say fit, you meant mentally fit more than anything. Yeah. Fit.

Ability to take effective form. That's what fit mean. Now, I love Letter to My Fans, too. Oh, my God. And you talk about a suicide attempt on that record. Yeah, I made that song a long, long time ago. Wow. A long time ago.

And I was saying that's when I was going through the acting like everything was okay on Instagram. I was acting. I was pretending. I'm happy. It's okay to be angry sometimes. It's okay to be disappointed. It's okay to be upset. But emotionally and intelligently, how do we channel these feelings and these emotions? I ask myself, why am I feeling

this way? But that's crazy that I put that song on there. I forgot that I put that song on there, but I owed it to my fans because I was pretending with them and they knew. Is it triggering to hear that song now for you? No, not at all. It's beautiful because that's why I was there with them. And they knew. Is it triggering to hear that song now for you? No, not at all. It's beautiful because that's why I was there that one time. And I always ask, how did you get out of that funk? Because there's a lot of people that listen that are in that funk and don't know how to get out.

And especially this generation. They want to kill yourself. Absolutely. You want me to be honest? Absolutely. God. I was there. God.

Like when I was supposed to kill myself, God intervened. Because I ain't tell nobody when I was Supposed to kill myself God intervened Cause I ain't tell nobody I don't do that I'm about to No I feel like that's horse plan I feel like you supposed

To walk in here And find me smashed in here I'll smush myself That's Now that's not horse plan He serious Like man I love y'all I'm tired

I don't let That's horse plan You alluding to what You about to do Now you got to find me and here stretched out. That's the type of person I am. I feel like if you talking about it, you not serious. But it was God.

What was the intervention, if you don't mind us asking? It's so crazy. I had talked about it last time I was up here. Oh, you did? Yeah, you're right, I do remember that. I talked about it, but I'll say it again for anybody that's listening right now. I had got to a point in my life to where i was like i don't think i'm really beneficial to nobody no more you know i don't i feel like i'm just a problem there's always something i could do better

look i'm just gonna get out the way and y'all just live off the money this everybody gonna be straight in the way without me it's cool so the day that i was going i was at the gym i had worked out real real good put all my jewelry on i'm like yeah we about to you know i'm looking at myself in the mirror like hey hey don't chicken hey don't out now because you know i talked to myself i said don't out you hey you know what time it is so i'm leaving out the gym a white dude he just texted me not too long ago i'm leaving out the gym and he said excuse me takes me not too long ago I'm leaving out the gym and he said excuse me can I approach you I say yeah he say I know this I know that you on you deactivated your Instagram and on Twitter you put this you know to my friends and my family for

getting out my teachers you know I love you all is over with like what that mean i was like i don't know what it mean so then he went on to tell me um your music is the only thing that makes this crazy world make sense i'm laughing because i know i'm about to do some gangster you know how you be joking when you about to do some gangster but you really be knowing you really i'm like yeah you know the world's you know the world's a cruel place you know the world could be a cruel place, you know. The world could be a cruel place, you know. Trust me, I know. I'm telling him like that, just kind of joking.

He was like, yeah, like your music kept me from killing myself. I said, yeah. I said, I'm going to just tell you, you're the only person I'm letting know this. I said, I'm about to go stretch myself right now. I'm about to go push my shit out. He crying, telling me, don't do this. Because if you do this, a lot of people going to go stretch myself right now i'm about to go push my shit out he crying telling me don't do this because if you do this a lot of people gonna go behind you that's right and i was like you know what i haven't told anybody i guess i'll stick around for a little while i walked outside and

told god i guess that's a sign i'm gonna give it three days and in them three days that's when life started changing for me because I was off Instagram. I was engaging with the world. I got to see that I was really loved. I really meant something to the world. You only gave yourself three days. You give girls 90. No, that's restriction.

Yeah. Okay. That's 90-day dick restriction. Okay, okay. Yeah. So what makes you want to go back on this crazy thing we call social media now? Because, you know, social media. To be honest, I really don't work my page i just oversee it like i don't work it like i approve

like the pictures sometime it'll be me when when the caption be real heartfelt you could tell it's me other times it's just something that i approved because i got to maintain my sanity i can't get lost in that social media right you said said something else on Letter to My Fans that I thought was interesting. You said you apologized to your fans. Is that the reason you apologized

because of what that guy told you? That if you do it, then you influence a bunch of people to do it? I apologize to my fans because I'm a motivational speaker that's giving great advice

that I wish that I could give myself. I got all this positive shit to say, but I ain't feeling positive when I'm talking that shit. That shit just sound good as a bitch. Everybody want to hear that I'm keeping it positive, but I'm not happy.

That's how I was feeling at that time. I'm like, yeah, you know, just positive, just stay positive. I was faking it till I made it, but I really wasn't making it because I never addressed the real issue internally. I still had hard but all kind of resentment and everything. From past traumatic experiences.

And now that you've done that, that's how you know you're of true service? You got to go back and face it. That's right. That was the hard part, going back and face your past. You got to face it. You got to face it. You got to sit with it. And when you sit with it, it's going to be very, very painful.

Like anybody listening right now, it's going to be painful to go address these issues because there's a lot of stuff that we keep, like we suppress things. And like you could suppress things for so long until one little thing could cause you to explode or implode. It's a trigger. So I had to go back and face a lot of these things. You know, some things I had to forgive myself for and move forward. You know, that's why I say in that song, mistakes make us great. I'm proud of you.

I think you're doing amazing. How often do you tell yourself that? Every day? Every day. Every day. Step inside this vocal booth, releasing all my pain. Things I did with on the day that drive driving on the person that's saying i could relate gave my love in an exchange got shitting on it happens on a daily and the progression is a

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Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You said you see yourself in Kershawn Rock. When people are laughing and joking, you see the fact that she's so loyal.

I saw myself in her at that time. You actually said she's so loyal, I saw myself in her at that time. You actually said she's so loyal she's stupid. That's what you said. I could see the pain. I could see her pain. And one thing about me, somebody that really has hurt before, I know pain when I see it.

And a lot of the stuff that people do, they really be hurting on the inside. They really be crying for help. And my heart went out to her because i saw her hurting on the inside i saw that and i ain't i ain't like to see that not not whatever they got going on that ain't my business i give a less i'm just talking about her like when i look in her soul i see a lot of myself like with the pain and you never know what pain will make you do you ever look at an artist that you can see going through the pain that you went to as a new artist and say,

I'm going to reach out to them and talk to them because they didn't have that OG, they didn't have somebody to talk to them? No, they could listen to Kevin Case music and get some advice from there. I ain't got time. I'm raising children. I'm raising men right now. I got my own children to worry about. I ain't got time to be, I hate to say it like this,

I have to put my oxygen mask on first if the plane is crashing, then aid and assist others. So right now, my healing journey was so that I could be a better service to my children and better service to the world. Me going single out and talk to this one individual person, he got needs that I can't cater to because

i ain't got the time he gonna want more than just some words of encouragement he gonna want to come spend a day as soon as you tell him no it's like you never told him yeah especially if he ain't never had no daddy so if he if he grew up just dealing with just a single parent household and he ain't had his daddy how tupac say when things are the same drama when things go wrong we blame mama you don't know how to deal with situations all you did is watch a woman just but see when a man race ain't going there and make your bed up take the trash out you brush your teeth come here wash your face yes sir all right come on let's go i'm proud of you now you know if now you know if you don't do these things, you got to take your lick.

What you mean take my lick? You got to take your lick. You can't play the game. And that's teaching accountability, self-accountability. And then a child be like, okay, yeah, I got to take my lick. If I do something I ain't supposed to do, I got to take my lick. We not making excuses for why you did what you did. No, you got to take your lick, homie. When you're a man, you stand for why you did what you did. Now you gotta take your lick on it.

When you're a man, stand for what you believe in. When you stand for what you believe in, you accept what come behind it. I talk to my son, he ain't nothing but nine, but I talk to him like he grown. As you should. Because either you learn fast or you die young. If I don't give him structure, the police gonna kill him.

They gonna kill him. They going to kill him. They going to push his shit out because his code of conduct going to be off. He ain't going to be conducting himself like a man. He going to be, ah, you know. But you know, yes, sir, no, sir. You know, me and green men. Protect children. Speaking of that, protect children.

Another very powerful record. What are some things you learned late that you want to teach your kids early? I hope it's not triggering, but I really don't care if it is, because we all down there been through this. That was about sexual victimization. Protect children. I treat your children like my children, like my birth children. When we was little, they used to say we was the worst children.

We all been through things that ain't our fault. You got to work with them, protect children. You not supposed to hurt children. And with that is I gave my children a place, a safe space. I created a safe space for them to communicate with me. Don't nobody never touch you there, not even me. Not even your daddy, not even your daddy not even your mom nobody You know and they they have a safe space to communicate can't nobody get you know

We're tell you if if you tell your mom I'ma hurt you I'ma hurt you a Y'all done seen what's up with y'all daddy y'all know what come behind y'all So I have created a safe environment for y'all to communicate with me and I asked my and my daughter tell you right now I tell my daddy everything because for y'all to communicate with me. And my daughter tell you right now, I tell my daddy everything because I'm not here to judge you. We all make mistakes. We're going to talk about what you did. I'm just disappointed a little bit, but don't worry about that.

I'm not here to judge you. I'm not here to beat you up for what you did or what happened to you. Just let me know. I don't care if you had a wreck and you accidentally killed somebody. Hey, just stay there. Stay stay there I'm on the way mm-hmm you getting this car go we can put the body in the trunk come on let's go I always tell me the truth I die for you and I die to protect you that's great advice what you tell your kids to because you know as somebody who's been

molested right when I was eight saying that's exactly what you tell your kids too because as somebody who's been molested right when I was eight Saying that's exactly what they tell you the person that's doing it will tell you that like don't tell your mom It's always somebody close always somebody in the family It's always somebody close it ain't never no outside person broke in the house and did this and so when that happened It's somebody that you trusted as a child. I trusted you and then they spear me into all these different type of martial arts and all this because I had a fear of being vulnerable this led us to being violent we didn't want to be violent you know I'm saying we was good children

but that's you know that's just the out that's that's like the side effects that come with that that's right it's like when I see children or women, like I just, and then come to find out, well, I ain't even going to say it, but when I talk to somebody else where I'm like, man, you're supposed to protect us, it happened to them too. You know what I'm saying? So it's like it made me like overprotective of women and children. I had to realize protecting them is creating that space for them to communicate with you, to know what's right from wrong,

and communicating with them. See, we trying to sweep that shit under the rug. No, we got to communicate with you to know what's right from wrong and communicating with them see we trying to sweep that shit under the rug no we got to communicate with our children that's right well the album is out hold on i got a few more questions okay ask me anything that's crazy i never thought i'd speak on it well i spoke about it on the mike tyson interview yeah you know what i'm saying and then shout out to mike tyson I love that brother we was talking about what made us become so violent and I shared my story with him and he shared a story with me he was like this would turn me into a monster and I was like I saw myself in him at that moment I was like I love that man I always was a big fan I always loved him but at that moment I was like yeah I love this. What's your relationship with Jim Jones?

I see you and Jim Jones talks a story when he was on Drink Champs about how y'all had a good relationship early on. I always had a good relationship with Jim Jones. He was fly, you know what I'm saying? And I hate to say this, like I'm not trying to be racist, but I mean this with all due disrespect, it's hard for a bright nigga.

You got to be extra gangster when you bright. You know, when you bright, you know, they be like, how you know how to fight so good, Kevin? Because I got beat up a lot. That's why. They always pick the bright nigga. They don't ever pick, they don't ever pick he. This dude, he ain't did nothing gangster. He just ugly.

He just ugly. Why are we ugly? Because we talking? Keep talking. I ain't talking about, you a chocolate nigga, man. I'm talking about an ugly nigga. He an ugly nigga too, but go ahead Because we dark skin? Keep talking. I ain't talking about it. You a chocolate nigga, man. I'm talking about an ugly nigga. He an ugly nigga too, but go ahead. Knock it off. He fixed his face a little bit. He would a yellow bitch gonna like.

Yellow bitch like chocolate niggas. They don't like bright niggas. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, they feel like we. But then. You ain't bright as him though. He ain't bright. You ain't bright to me, Kev.

I'm really a nigga though. You know what I'm saying? I come up in the. You know what I'm saying? I've been battle tested. You know, I'm approved. You me cap I'm really a nigga though you know I'm saying I come up in there you know I'm saying I've been not been battle-tested you know I'm approved you know I'm saying you know so but on just coming up as a child you know being bright with curly hair you know what I'm saying you know I saw Jim John like man this nigga fly he gangster he bright. I say that's raw. You know I identify with it. Cause I saw myself in him. That's why I always been a fan of Jim Jones.

He's still my partner to this day. He talks about a story he said you refused to sign with Cash Money till y'all met, till you met with him. I guess. Shout out to Jim Jones. I was up here in New York. I don't know if that's how, you know, there was a third party. EI and Fee.

I told Fee, I said, man, I want to meet Jim Jones. And Fee talked to EI and EI put it together. Now, I don't know what they told him in the process, but I ended up meeting Jim Jones and we developed a great relationship and we have a great rapport to this day. Like, that's my brother. I love him. Like whenever he in the city, he just he holler, hey, where you at?

And he everywhere. You know what I'm saying? He never changed. He always been the same way. Always the same. How do I get a pair of God slippers, man? You know how that happen? Somebody asked me to play cards.

I'm like, I would, but I don't like they was gambling. I'm like, I would, but I ain't got no hands. But then they saw me eating, and they was like, I thought you said you had no hands. They not mine, they for God. So when I said God's slippers, everything I got on, I just borrowed it from God. All I have is the little that God blessed me with.

I borrowed a pair of God's slippers. I walked on water in front of you niggas. What I mean is I walked over all kind of obstacles because I borrowed a pair of guard slippers and I made this shit look fly. While I was doing it. Adversity builds character. If it ain't rough, it ain't us. I borrowed a pair of guard slippers.

Started a battery. Got back in charge. Did it again. Ooh. You know, they don't believe that. They don't believe you started a car with your hands. You got to show somebody one day. Can I tell you something? Yeah.

I can give a fuck less what they believe. Hey, thank you for paying homage to the holy grounds of Walmart too, man. Oh my God. When you were from the South, man. I ain't tell you about that. No. I was in, i was on color code

okay i was hustling at the time this is when i was living illegitimately i was hustling at the time what color code is you got to call in and if your color come up you got to go piss so i was in there buying the gloves because i was doing my thing with the gloves so it wouldn't get in my system that's the myth that i heard that you don't get in your system if you wear the gloves and you know i end up meeting me a little one-up in Walmart. You know what I'm saying? We was at Waffle House. You know what I'm saying?

And she ate me up in a Honda. You know how that go. Retired it. And so you've been loving Walmart ever since? I love Walmart anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it. They got everything you need.

That's right. You know, that's when the DVDs, you remember, they used to have the three-pack of DVDs, the six-pack of DVDs? I had the little DVD player. When I used to be in a trap, I'd of DVDs, the six-pack of DVDs. I had the little DVD player. When I used to be in the trap, I'd shoot over there and grab me a couple of DVDs. I'd have my junkies go get it. But it's something about going in there yourself

late night, 2, 3 in the morning. That's when they used to stay open 24 hours. That's right, especially if you grew up in the country. Because if you grew up in the country, probably wasn't nothing else going on. Well, I'm on this the mall. That's right. That's the mall.

That's right. Yeah, I met a winner in there with the little Chinese slippers on. You know they be in there. You know what met a winner. You know, I met a winner in there with the lit Chinese slippers on. You know they be in there. You know what I'm saying? You know, they got the little steppers walking around in there. Best I've played. And you said you got the almighty on speed dial.

And you say the only way to kill a God is when Allah calls them. That's it. Like, my body is my temple. Now, a great responsibility to come with looking at your body like your temple. Like, that's really what made me stop drinking alcohol. Like, at my listening party, I had a glass of apple juice. And then I told the bartender, I said, make me something fruity, make it look like I drink, but make it just taste good and fruity booty.

Make me a little fruity booty right for you. She's like, oh, my God, I love you. Your accent. I said, yeah, but don't put no alcohol in it. boot it make me a little fruity booty right for you she's like oh my god i love you your accent i say yeah but don't put no alcohol in it you know but put me a little flower on there you know make it look good so i had that and then i had two um champagne glasses of apple juice and i would just walk around feeling good like everybody else was feeling good but you know when you say your bad is your temper come with a great responsibility. Like, sometimes when I need clarity, I got to fast and clean my temple out.

So the spirit of the most high can abide in my temple. God by the cover by the highest. They guns hold no power to this holy temple. But how you kill a God when the Lord called him? The only time he go is when the Lord called him. That's it. Almighty on speed dial. He on a speed dial.

I can talk to God before I can call my phone. I can talk to God before I can call you with my phone. He on speed dial. I'm always talking to God. Before I drunk the coffee, I prayed over it. I don't know what they did to the coffee before they brought it to me. Everything with me is a faith move. I don't not have security because I'm a tough guy.

I don't have security because I't not have security because I'm a tough guy. I don't have security because I walk by faith and not by sight. I pray all the time. That's all I got. That's all I got is prayer.

If not, I'll be doing a life sentence or dead. I know this. This is a blessing for me to be sitting right here right now. I agree.

Because I'm not supposed to be here, big brother. And I mean that with all due respect. I'm not supposed to be here right now. No, you for me to be sitting right here right now. I agree. Because I'm not supposed to be here, big brother. And I mean that with all due respect. I'm not supposed to be here right now. No, you're supposed to be here because God wants you here. Right. And he got you here to help other brothers here.

Without that, you know. That's right. This is God. This ain't me. No, you are here to help other brothers here, man. And I think the ceremony is going to do a phenomenal job of that. You know something? You remember when I used to, you know,

any time I used to drop an album, I used to say things like, if you want to go get it, get it. If you don't want it, don't want it. That was like the fear of, what if it's not good enough? This bitch good enough. Go get it. This the one. Absolutely.

Like, if you ready to just really just take self-accountability and heal, this the one. What do you want to hear? Let's play a joint off the album now. Which one? Oh, my God. My favorite? Yeah.

I can't pick a favorite. I like, it depends. What mood? Just tell me what mood we in. What mood we in right now? Let's play Healing, man. I like Healing. Let's play Healing, man. I like Healing. Let's play Healing.

I love Healing. But I also love that T-Pain remix that I did. Shorty. Shorty. Yeah. You know, like, you might say this, even though I'm not your man, you're not my girl, I'm going to call you my little short. My little yeah.

My little yeah. But she my little yeah. Let's play both of them. See, like, in Louisiana, you might be like, yeah, this is my little yeah. I like the Yonsei Freestyle, too, though. That turned up. That's turned up. You know, I'm a DJ.

Oh, my God. Let's play both of them. We play Lil' Yan. We play Heel. All right, y'all just going to forget my Yonsei Freestyle? Play it in the mix. I'll play that in the mix. I'll play that in the mix.

All right, I'll play that in the mix. All right, play whatever y'all want. You got to send me the clean version, Sam Crespo. Send me the clean. Man, Kevin Gates, the ceremony is out this Friday. Go pick it up, man. Tell us what the title means. I don't think you ever told us what the title means.

Ceremony? Yeah. It's the ceremony that I was having with myself. I learned to love again a stranger that was once myself. That was the ceremony, reuniting with my authentic self. It's been a long journey. I even told my elders, I never cut my hair and this and this and that. But it came a time where it's time to go back to original form

I was like but I just earned a new I just earned a spotted eagle feather they said Kevin you don't wear the feathers in your hair you wear the feathers in your heart for what it stand for you wear it in your heart and I was like you right I cried when I cut my hair

cause I had a lot of trauma and a lot of the things that I went through was all of that. My journey was in my hair. And I cried. And it was beautiful because it was releasing. And I just feel so much lighter now. And it's crazy. The girl that braided my hair, she said, I think you should cut it. I think once you cut it, it's going to take you to a whole other level.

I said, you willing to sacrifice getting paid to see me go to a whole nother level she was like yeah i said because you committed this selfless act um forever you will be blessed wow wow there you have it kevin gays on friday man kevin appreciate you brother man i love when healing especially from black men, has a soundtrack. We need more of those, man. So thank you for making one. All right. Thank you for having me.

That's right. It's Kevin Gates. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up. In the morning. The Breakfast Club. Had enough of this country?

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