The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Keyshia Cole On Living Her Life Out Loud, Trusting Love Again, Celebrating Her Career + More

Episode Date: May 29, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Keyshia Cole Discuss Living Her Life Out Loud, Trusting Love Again, Celebrating Her Career. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to VoiceOver on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Wake that ass up. In the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are The Breakfast Club. Lorna Rosa is here as well.

And we got a special guest in the building. Yes indeed. Keisha Cole, welcome. Hey, hi, how you doing? It's been a long time. How you feeling? It's been a very long time. It's been probably over, what, seven years

or something like that? I think so. Yeah, a long time. It's been probably over, what, seven years or something like that? I think so. Seven years. I'm bugging that this is the 20th anniversary of your debut album. Yes. I'm like, God damn. 20 years flying by.

It is a long time. How does it feel when you think about that? I'm still processing it. I mean, I'm happy that we're able to do a tour, 20th year anniversary tour is more insane. Cause I mean, I mean, it's a great album. So I'm appreciative of the fans and them supporting. So what do you remember about yourself 20 years ago?

The woman you were 20 years ago. Wrecking rooms, boy. Just fashion TV, baby. Just fighting, just crazy, just insane. But I learned a lot, so it's all good. You ever go back to some of those old times and those old interviews and watch them and be like, God damn.

I don't. No? Mm-mm, I just act like it never happened. Never happened. It just happened. But you gotta love every version of yourself. Every version of yourself played a part. Because we grew up, well, I feel like I grew up

with you going through those different times of reality stuff. Like music, we grew up, well I feel like I grew up with you going through those different times. I know I did. Like music, then reality show Keisha Cole, then mom Keisha Cole. That's what did it. Being a mom? Yeah. I didn't want to like you know go to jail and never get to see them again. So I mean you have to make life altering decisions. Like, amen, if I do that, it makes me up the creek. Let it slow it down. The Keisha Remi Ma era. That was a crazy era.

That was stepping into the steel toes for sure. I'm thinking back like, wow. This matter, there was like heavy social media back then. Oh, thank God, no. Heavy phones back then. I think soon as I actually was pregnant when, was it Instagram, Twitter, when Twitter first started and Monica was trying to get me on Twitter

and she was on Twitter and I just, I didn't like it. It's like everybody just, they was talking, you know, I'm like, okay. I spelled one word wrong just, they was talking, you know, I'm like, okay. I spelled one word wrong once, it was the rap. I was like, this is not my type of thing, but yeah, it's been a minute, 20 years. What part of your story do you think people still get wrong even after all these years?

Wrong? Wrong, yeah. The misconception. Yeah, that I'm really mean, that I'm nasty, that I got a bad attitude, I'm a bitch. Whatever, certain stuff like that, I guess. Because that's not the case, right? But maybe back then, I don't know, you know? But we all grow.

We all change, we all evolve, so I think that now that's the vibe. Like, you know, it's 20 years, my oldest is 15, so. Wow, 15? You know, yeah. Wow. And she was just telling me she want a little girl, she ready for a little girl now.

I am ready for a little girl. You wanna start over? If God, yes, for the rest of my life. Yep, that would be awesome. I mean, when you accomplish so many things and you set so many goals for yourself, and imagine accomplishing those goals, all the goals that you set for yourself.

I always wanted to headline my own arena tour. I'm pretty sure I said that when I came up here, maybe 10 years ago. And I mean, just like, I'm on my second one now for my first album. That is just insane to me, just to kind of process that. But I mean, I think setting new goals and just wanting new things in my life,

I think a girl would be one of them. Yeah, because this version of Keisha would be better. For sure. For a girl. Yeah, and a husband. And a husband. Yeah. Because the old one was not taking it, not having it.

No, actually you got to go. I think, yeah, we came up here one time. Yeah. Yeah. So that was the thing. But yeah, I think this version would be better for it. I think the beauty of you though, Keisha, is that you did grow, at least to me, on your own terms. Good, bad, ugly, you grew on your own terms.

And a lot of people don't get that opportunity. Really? I don't think so. Especially in music, because you grew out loud. Oh yeah, for sure. You grew in front of people. Some people, it's an image that they gotta maintain so they don't ever get to do that.

And then, you know, they end up slapping somebody on stage and you were like, damn, I didn't even know that was. You was brewing in there like that. Nobody knew that anger was there. Shout out to Will. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I thought that was stage. Okay, so boom.

I don't know, cause that's what they show on TV. They say that it would happen before or something. What the heck was that? But like, yeah, my son too. I've like, I never seen my oldest son. He's angry at all, ever. Like, and I'm scared about that. Like, I'm like, where is it coming? When is it coming? Because I've never seen him yell, get loud, argue. I'm like, never seen him. So that would be scary. But no, I have, I have, I have. Living my life in front of everybody. I don't, yeah, I just never had a problem with it.

Who I am is who I am. You said you'd never seen your son yell and scream, but that says a lot about the environment you raised him in. Maybe we just used to that because that's how we came up. So we think that's what normal's supposed to be. Oh, yeah, no. But I don't know, because my little one, he cuts everybody out.

Okay, okay. So you just got the good balance. Yeah, that one is going to give me all hell that broke loose with me. I hope, I pray not, but it looks as if, so, because he don't take no sh- at all. Like he be capping on his brother, like for a real big back and all. Big back and all. He says that to his brother? What? Yeah. Then what does brother do? To bias, that's not nice to bias. Like for a real big back and all. Big back and all. He says that to his brother?

Yeah. Then what does brother do? Tobias, that's not nice Tobias. Oh no. So one is MLK and one is Malcolm X. Oh man. Yeah, yeah very much so. Oh it's bad.

Did you call your son a big back? No. His brother called him a big son. Why? Her little son calls her big son. Because DJ's dad and grandfather, they're 6'2", 6'9", his grandmother's tall, all of them. So DJ's big. He's like, he's a big guy.

But not fat. No, he's not fat, but he's a big dude. He can play football for sure. Like athlete. Yeah. We don't call them big backs. But Tobias does. But as a kid, you call everybody big bags

Oh, he got it wrong. Yeah, you gotta teach him. I tell them all the time. That's not cool Give show them a little show them in a teacher teach him when it's obese people that walk by that's when you use When you use the term So bias got that from. I don't know. Oh, Big Back. Well, you know, TikTok, the Big Back thing is... Yes, but it started from Lennard.

No. Yeah, you definitely, you and Reese Satie. Oh, you saw me right there? No. You made it a little bigger. No, I didn't. Definitely didn't. No, I didn't.

But Keisha, what I've always loved about you is you've always been relatable with your music and even like showing your life on TV with your family and everything like that. Was there ever a point that you said that you regretted doing that? Yeah. It's too real? Putting it out there? Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

When everything started going to shit. Can I say that? Yes. Okay, thank you. Because yeah, when everything started, when nobody was getting better, I feel like, that was the goal for the show. And I remember talking to Mimi Valdez about this. She was the editor of Vibe Magazine.

And I was like, I don't know if I should do it. She said, well, what is your purpose of doing it? And I said, well, I wanna show the girls out there where I come from, and me being able to make it out the hood and like really put that work in. She said, well show that and make sure that the focus is always that. And when it was like coming, became a point of like

unhealthy and just like really unhealthy. When my mom was showing up and it was like, bro, we cannot film today, bro. Like that's not cool. Like I'm not doing this. We got to stop this. And everybody was like, bro, we cannot film today, bro. That's not cool. I'm not doing this, we gotta stop this. And everybody was really pissed at me, okay, because it was a lot of money on the table. And I didn't care about that.

It was like, no, we need to get some, seek some counseling, put my mom in a program. And she was like, Kiesha, that's just not what I want, babe. I'm happy with my life the way I am. And I was just like, stop spending your money. There's no need to do that. I don't want it. And I was like, it was just a point where I was just like,

okay, well, it ain't no reason to keep continuing. They know we living. You know what I mean? And I'm not showing anything that's growing people anymore. So I'd prefer to not do that. Oh, I respect that. How hard was it for you to hear that from your mom and accept that, that she wanted to live her life

on her terms? Well, I just was like, you sure you don't think it's anything we could do? Maybe, we can try? And she just was like, no. I just prefer, it was maybe maybe a year before she passed actually. And she came out there and she actually told me not to put her in a program because she had Obamacare.

And she wanted to use her Medica or whatever to go into a program. And I was like, OK, well, that's what you want to do. You know, and she told me she she put it aside, she said, you know, Keisha, you never made me feel unloved, you never judged me, you never cursed at me, you never put your hands on me. She said, God is gonna bless you for that. And I'm like, ma, like, come on.

She said, no, and I'm just telling you, like, you know? And I know I wanna do things the way I wanna do them, but you're gonna be all right. And I'm just like,, you know? And I know I wanna do things the way I wanna do them, but you're gonna be all right. And I'm just like, this is just like, I just can't take this, bro. Come on, you sure it's nothing we can do? I'm thinking it's something we can do, but yeah, a year later.

Has your definition of family changed since losing your mom? Definition? Yeah. What you mean, like? Just in general, has your definition? Definition? Yeah. What you mean like? Just in general, like how your definition of family changed. Like what was your definition of family before I guess? No, no, loving, supporting, and unconditionally being there for people.

If that doesn't hurt you, for sure. You know, cause there's limitations to everything. Especially if it's doing something that's not, you're hurting yourself now. No. You know what I mean? I learned that when I had my boys, that there's different ways I can support you and be there for you, but not harming my children or my family.

Right? But it's still the same. I mean, I still visit my family and see my family. My niece is coming to live with me. I'm giving her a summer job. That. My niece is coming to live with me. I'm giving her a summer job, that's awesome. I'm proud of Cece. And my nieces are beautiful, nephews.

So yeah, day at a time. What about reconnecting with your siblings? Yeah, nephew, yeah. Did you? No, no. That's a work in progress always? Yeah, just slowly, surely. And then the love you have for your kids,

you realize that's a total different love that you would ever have for anybody else. I think so anyway. Well, yeah. I mean, but there was a point where I looked at Neffian just was like, oh my God, like the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life. Like, you know, and I felt like that about my mama.

Like, oh my God, I don't care what nobody said about my mama. My mama just looked so beautiful to me. Like, I don't give a damn. You know, my children, I mean, it's just like, I would hurt myself or my children. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I guess in terms of that, for sure. Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, because that go back to what I said. Yeah, I gotta protect, Mommy gotta protect that first. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, because that go back to what I said. Yeah, I gotta protect, mommy gotta protect that first. Yeah, for sure. Nakeisha Cole, this is my story. Did you like that lifetime story? I felt like it was so much more I wanted to tell. And go back to me saying that I set a list of goals for myself, if you go back to the reality show,

the way it is in the first season, I said that I wanted to do my own movie and I sat with- You should. What was his name that did? He passed away. John Singleton? John Singleton.

John Singleton, I sat with John and we talked about doing the movie and stuff like that. And that we actually had a screenplay about it. And it was about my life and my struggles with my mom and my family and my love life and my music career and all these different things. But when my mother passed, and we had already been speaking to them

before the verses about doing the movie. And then when my mom passed, it kind of shifted that story a bit into my mom's life and me paying kind of homage to my mother and everything that I've experienced with her since a little girl. And so it became the Frankie movie like always she's even in passing she's just I'm like bye it's your movie like you know what I'm saying but I'm cool with it you know and hopefully one day I'll be able to do my own movie because I felt like that was really just a movie

on our life together. But you have so much history. I mean, so much history from the MC Hammer to Pac to the music industry to when I- Dwayne Wiggins, Rest In Peace. Yes, I look at your crowds and your crowds go from 60 years old to 15 years old because your songs just transcend like love. I'm looking, I'm like, love from 60 years old to 15 years old because your songs just transcend like love.

I'm looking, I'm like love is 20 years old, which is crazy. You play that in the club now. Yeah. And how does that feel? Well, if you think about it in the reality show, we can go back to that and my mother and people seeing a Frankie in their family,

like from across the world, like, you know, every hood has, you know has somebody like my mom. And then we got somebody like Frankie, I mean, Nuffy, crazy, just, you know, ain't gonna hold nothing back, you know what I'm saying? Then we got somebody like me that wanna make it work, somebody that's going, you know, so if you got those generations,

and now I have children, you know what I'm saying? And those five-year, six year olds, seven year olds, they sing in love. But we have these generations of the mother that plays the music for the daughter. Now the daughter, who's my age, has two kids and now they're singing it. So it's like to be able to see that,

and Stevie Wonder told me this. He said, you are to your generation what we were to your parents. And I was like, huh? He was like, yeah, that's what you are. I'm like, ain't no fucking way. That's insane. No, no, I was like, no, heck no, man, no.

When did you realize you was the generational curse breaker for your family though? Huh? What you mean, huh? No, seriously. When did you realize you was the generational curse breaker for your family? I love you so much. Why you think that?

You are. You give that, that is it. That's what that reality show was, watching that. Yes and you just kind of uttered it out of your mouth. You say you have someone like you that wants to make it work, that wants to see change, that wants to break the cycle. Oh wow. Yeah that's what you are ultimately.

She even think about that. Really you haven't realized. Not just with the mess. Hurry it. Just with the mess. Yo that's insane it like that. Well, really, you haven't realized it. Not just with the mess. Hurry it. And you just wait. Just with the mess. Yo, that's insane to think that. I mean, I don't know if I processed that, but nah, I haven't processed that

because it's so much work that needs to be done. And I would love, I mean, that dream of that little girl wanting to be a superstar so that she can have all her sisters and brothers live with her in one home. I did that, it didn't work out, And that's sad, you know what I mean? Because I really wanted that for all of us to be together. And that didn't really happen. And that's why it took so long to bury my mother because a lot of my brothers and sisters would not come together. And all my mother wanted to see was all her kids. I know she wouldn't have been able to see it, but wherever

she was, I hope that she was able to see it. And that's why it took so long, because I wanted to bring everybody together for her one last time. That was all she kept saying the year before her passing. I wanna see all my babies together. Wow. And we couldn't do it.

Wow. And it was just like really pissing me off. So to know that the curse is broken, it would have to be everybody getting along, everybody coming together cohesively and making things work, even if that's not, you know, hanging out all the time, but at least speaking and being cordial

and loving one another, and the children, most of all, I think. You know, that would be, to me, a successful generational curse breaking, not just me and my family living well. And you know, that, I mean mean that would be mine yeah did you tell the family that did the family know that oh man what wow and they couldn't put you to the side for that no wow wow wow this is all that nothing we that, ain't nothing. We talking about right now.

And that's what y'all gonna have to live with for the rest of y'all life. I mean, at that point I was like, I ain't, you know my mama gotta, she gotta rest in peace finally. So it's like, if that ain't gonna be the vibe, y'all don't want that, I can't want it for y'all. Do you hold a grudge?

Somebody ask you for something, like nah, you ain't come to mama Not even have my information Can't see it to say no So but a grudge I don't think so No, because anybody like I said can change and anybody like, you know But you have to show that over time and I was talking about this last night which is so funny we have in this conversation right now and And I was talking about this last night, which is so funny, we're having this conversation right now,

and who I used to be, and the person that would wreck the room asked even Hill, they had to pay for it, you know? And me and my sisters just slap-boxing at them. Me and Neffy just used to go at it like cats and dogs and fight and fight outside in the hotel room, bah! Everything's broke, you know what I'm saying? But over time, we've shown that that's not the way we fix it, and that's not how we deal with it, you know what I'm saying? But over time, we've shown that that's not the way we fix it and that's not how we deal with it,

you know what I'm saying? Whatever that may be. And she's still crazy though. But, and I'm still crazy a little bit, but you know what I'm saying? But we just, it changes. It just, and you show people over time what that looks like and that's by, you know,

you proving it. Have y'all ever jumped somebody together? No. Dang. Really? No. No we've never, nobody's given us the opportunity. Nobody presented it to us like you know what I mean?

It's not like it couldn't happen. It's like nobody was bowed enough like make that a thing. Now you mentioned verses before. People were thinking that there was tension between you and Shanti during verses. Was there any tension? I don't know. No. And in addition to that, I'm so mad I had got COVID, because I was ready to just...

I was so mad. Like, so pissed. And no. So that's what you was mad about having, COVID. I was mad that I had COVID, in addition to the fact that my mic wasn't working. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, get my mic right.

Don't do that to me. I don't know who's in cahoots in here, but y'all not about to sabotage my stuff. So that was a, that was a, but it came off as like I was being unappreciative of the moment, which I wasn't because I was so excited about that moment. And I mean, to be up there with such a beautiful, like artists like Ashanti, like I came up on Ashanti like that, so fire. So nah, never.

And I hate that people took it that way. Yeah. Nah. There was some people who thought that was stage too though, cause they think that that's like your persona, like a character you portray. That what? Like always with the drama, always angry. Damn.

That's that misconception again. I think it was too when during the verses, when it was the thing about whose turn it was, people were like, I don't know if she was reminding you, it was her turn or you was reminding her, it was your turn. And people was like, all right, they doing this to play you into the whole.

Wait, what? And during the verses, I think it was Ashanti was telling you that it was her turn. You was like, all right, they doing this to play into the whole. Wait, what? During the verses, I think it was Ashanti was telling you that it was her turn. You were about to play another song, but I think you were just excited to play the other song. You don't remember this. Really? Yes, but people grabbed that online too.

And they were like, this is them playing into the whole, like, Keisha Cole do her thing, her little one too. Oh no, man. That's too bad. I hate that. I hate that. But I mean, shout out to Ashanti, because I mean, she's amazing.

So I mean, just to be up on that platform with Ashanti, I appreciate that. Did y'all talk after that? No. Okay. Nope. She got a baby. Yeah.

She pregnant again. Yes. Congratulations, great. Have you ever felt pressure, like from the label or a TV network to, I guess, market pain or drama because people associate your music with heartbreak and... I wish I could blame that on... I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast, Betrayal.

Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone, most of all his wife Caroline. He texted, I've ruined our lives. You're going to want to divorce me. Caroline's husband was living another life behind the scenes. He betrayed his oath to his family and to his community. She said you left bruises, pulled her hair, that type of thing. No. How far would Joel go to cover up what he'd done?

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people who will help us think about how we love each other. It's a very, very normal experience to have times where a relationship is prioritizing other parts of that relationship that are being naked together. How we love our family. I've spent a lifetime trying to get my mother to love me, but the price is too high. And how we love ourselves. Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now.

Let me hear it. Just listen to VoiceOver on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. No, it's just the way it is, right? 20 years now and going on tour 20 years later for the way it is, no. I actually, I wrote a bunch of them songs myself. So they're all everything that I've experienced.

It's like a selected few that wasn't written by me. Enough or No Love, I Shoulda Cheated, Daron and Q4 112. You know, there's a few songs. Yeah, you would blame that on somebody else. I shoulda cheated. Yeah, well that was not my idea. Exactly, for sure not.

For sure, that's your story. Been sticking to that for 20 years. Great record. It's true though. It's true. I didn't write it. I mean I wish I would have because it was actually a hit but nah I can't take credit. When you start trusting love again I have you. Every time heartbreak. So yeah. What's your love like like today? Every time heartbreak. So yeah. Wow. What's your love like today? Oh shh.

Well you know I'm a ass. Just with the mess. 11 11 period. Yeah. No. Make a wish. Hey bitch. Are you single?

Um, yes. Or is it complicated? No, it's not complicated at all. It's very much given single. Okay. Are you dating? I haven't decided to date again. Not yet.

I take compliments. It's very much given single. Okay. Mm-hmm. Are you dating? I haven't decided to date again. Not yet. I Take compliments. Mm-hmm. Thank you. You answered that Thank you for that and then no, but am I ready to move on? No, I still got the tattoo here So I can't like I feel like until when I If I I don't know so fast fast though. Wow, that's really, um, judgey. How do you know that? I think, I mean, no, no, no, no. I didn't even know. You don't know her. Coming from him, I think he made it the wrong way.

And imagine you coming from Angie Martinez, sitting over there, fixing the, the, the, You love fast. And there he is. That's what you picked up over all these years that we've been, no, I've seen you and you, you seem like you in love fast, like you love love. There's nothing wrong with that. I think he means like you, you're, you're, you're locked into the love. I'm in love with him.

I'm in love with him. I'm in love with him. I'm in love with him. I'm in love with him. I'm in love with him. I'm in love with him. I've seen you and you seem like you're in Love Fast. Like you love love. I think he means like you're locked into the love. Like you're loyal to women. Y'all don't know how long she known these people before.

No, I just said she loves love. Ain't nothing wrong with that. No, when you see it on Instagram, you see that you think I'm in Love Fast then, but there's definitely something built before I just post somebody. But you love love? I definitely love love for sure. Like I'm a lover girl for sure. And you haven't given up on that?

I hope not. Yeah. Okay. But right now I'm not, like have you ever felt like, why do I feel like this and I just don't, I like, I can't act on it right now. Like I just can't, it's like I'm going with the flow or whatever that feels like. I'm not doing too much calling.

It's like everything is reciprocated right now. Like you know what I mean? You give me love, I give you love. If it's no love to be given, it ain't no love to be given. And that's just gonna be what it's gonna be. You mentioned the tattoo, you might not get rid of the tattoo. I don't know yet, I just haven't did it.

What is the tattoo of Gyal? It's a Hancho tattoo. I was gonna say, she be knowing shit, and we don't with what? I thought, sorry, she has Hancho's name tattoo, but I was wondering if not getting rid of it is because you're hoping to rekindle. Well, I'm not dating, so it's not like,

oh, I'm dating some dude, and I'm sitting across the table, and I got him on my chest. It's like, you know what I mean? I guess I got too much work to do right now, right? Like I'm going on tour The BT Awards is coming up. Yes Yes, even he'll know what he's not there no more. I don't have a problem inviting you back up You don't tore up dressing rooms. I mean they liked me more Reality show come come here. Don't give Jess no ideas please.

No. Because you know she'll tear up some shit in a minute. Will you? No, I'm not like you. Well I'm not like the old Keisha. Yes, I'm not like. You don't tear down things? No, I don't.

She just curses people out. Do you got a pickup truck? Had you ever? You got a pickup truck Time or another when you pulled up to rephrase my question then when did you start trusting love with it ever a period where you didn't trust? No, no, no question then, when did you start trusting love again? Was there ever a period where you didn't trust? You're like, fuck these niggas, I ain't even. No, no, no, no. No, I know when someone cares about you, I do.

And, but things happen, you know, like I just feel like some things aren't made to last and unfortunately my lasting love has, I don't know, maybe it's here, maybe it's not. I don't know, like I said, I'm just really, for real, legit going with the flow. And like I said, I'm so blessed to be able to be here still, like 20 years later and do the way it is tour that came out 20 years ago and have these little babies

and the older people like, you know, my mom and singing the songs and loving the music. So I'm just focused on that right now. And if it happens, it's like cool. I'm not in a rush to get no tattoo covered up right now. I'm not in a rush to date right now. I just wanna like appreciate the moment for what it is right now.

Like I think more so than anything, it's not about love right now. It's about my fans. And yeah. Has it ever been a point, right, where you is like, where you had to be reminded of who the fuck you are though? You know, people say,

I would love to address that. What do people mean by that? I guess it- Knowing your worth. Yeah, knowing your worth. Sometimes you forget who you are. Or people playing knowing your worth. Yeah, knowing your worth. And then also. Sometimes you forget who you are. Or people playing on your name. Okay, so can we dive in a little bit in that?

What does that truly mean? Knowing who you truly like, knowing your worth and people playing in your face. So and then what do you do? What do you, I mean, what do you do? You want a more direct statement about what we're talking about. So for me, go ahead. No, I was gonna say the answer to your question directly

is like sometimes you gotta silence the noise around you because we hear so much opinions about us from other people. Sometimes you might start believing that shit. And that ain't that, their opinions aren't real. And pretty much about who you date. Because I always was, I was saying the comments around whenever you will go viral for,

actually, you not going viral. It would be something around your relationship, right? And it would be like, yo, does she not know who she is? Like, she is Keisha Cole. She don't need to put up with this shit. Or how did he even get to be with her? How, why she keep dating a young girl? Why she, you know what I'm saying?

Okay, so Huncho specifically. So when things were things were surrounded, no I really want to get to the root of it because people say this. It's Huncho, but it's enough of me too, it's Huncho. Okay, we can address that. We going to do Huncho, that's the real me. Okay, so when things happen in his life are surrounding him, but me and him are in a relationship, so boom, that then makes me look like I don't know my worth because of these things that's outside of our relationship and what he's dealing with now that makes me look like, Keisha do you know who you are? So then ask Keisha Cole, what would you suggest I do? What would be that to show the world? I'm Keisha Cole. What would that be? I would say not giving a fuck, but see this is the thing. It's hard. Am I twerking?

No, this is the thing that- What am I doing to this show? People think they know, but we don't know your relationship. Do I go out and take shots? No, you do whatever makes you happy. No, you put the diaper on and go on and sit. That's funny. You put the diaper on and go on. I thought you were. I was excited.

Yeah. Get the money, right? Okay, so boom. That looks good. Okay, and stay quiet. Do what you want to do. No, I just want to know because people say it all the time. Remember who you are. And I thought me, remembering who I am,

just my personal opinion of myself and love. And who you are. And I thought me remembering who I am, just my personal opinion of myself and love. And when you truly love somebody, you don't just be like, oh yeah, because I'm Keisha Cole. Now I can go out and I can show him who I really could be with or who I really could be around. Who really my friends, who really like, no, it's cool. And whatever happens, God is happening because God said it's happening. And whatever happens, God is, it's happening because God said it's happening. So how do I, like, I can't just, I'm just not like that. So.

You know what's interesting about that? And I think about it when they say, remember who you are, maybe clearly we don't know you. Cause if you're doing what you wanna do. Like we think we know, that's the problem. Like you say, other people's opinions are, you know, just what they are. Other people's opinions. But we don't know. Like people don't know you. So above all of this is what that is. It's like you're above all of this. You're above,

you're greater than everything that's happening in your life right now. So sit above that. Don't deal with nothing. And actually don't even bring nobody to the forefront no more. Actually, we don't even want to see you with nobody Keisha until it's that's how you feel like people feel? I think so because I and I'm not taking it as a way that like people feel like they don't want to see me happy well sometimes but you know they rather see it like if it's gonna be real then it's gonna be forever you know I think my fans are like we didn't see you go through enough but that's the thing

that's what it is we didn't see you so through enough. But that's the thing. That's what it is. We didn't see you so much. We want you to be happy. There was a video that went viral of you. You were performing. It was doing all the Huncho stuff, and you were crying. And they tried to say, OK, this is because of the Huncho stuff.

And people were really, really upset online, because people want to protect you so much. But you stay quiet. When you see stuff like that, and whether it is or it's not about him, how are you feeling at that moment? It was actually the last show of the last tour. And that was my first arena tour that I prayed for.

And I was thanking the fans for being there for the whole tour. And I was having a great tour. I was crying over my fans being there for me. Like I don't know where the Huncho thing came from. I don't know. But if they wanted to think I was crying over Huncho, I guess, I don't know.

I was like, cool. Well anyway, on a happier note, I love to see people giving you your just due because you deserve all of the flowers and the things. I was at Usher's show when he brought you on stage. That was great. It was amazing to see that. I was like, what is happening? And it was so pure because you could tell,

you didn't even want to be up there. But he just made it a point to, he dropped Love and she didn't even have to sing a word. Yeah. He was so sweet for that. He was so sweet. He just wanted you to listen to them. They was screaming at the top of their lungs,

the whole arena. Oh my God. The song Word for Word. Yeah, I think that's what, I think we was talking about this the whole arena. Oh my God. The song, Word for Word. Yeah, I think that's what, I think we was talking about this the other day. I think when people do that, it makes me feel uncomfortable.

Why? I don't know. I get real like, I don't know. But maybe that's what y'all mean by remember who you are. That as well. You brought Charlamagne on stage, you put cherries in Charlamagne's mouth too. That never happened.

Listen, Cas you about to diaper? Why, why? I don't wanna listen to him. She like it! Why are y'all like that? It was cute, she don't like it. I don't care either way, I'm just asking because people be on there with the diaper.

I feel like it's really, it's cool. It's another thing like my fans, our people in general just like to pick at me, I feel like. Because I could have sworn it, but like to pick at me I feel like because I could have sworn it but like they were telling me that Dolce wore it um to the Super Bowl or something like that. Dolce? Dolce? She wore it to the Super Bowl and Dolce wore it to the Super Bowl? She wore the same outfit. Okay. And everybody said she did it and it was fashion and it was and I was like oh really because I didn't know that they showed me last night and I was like oh no I like it. It was cute.

They showed you last night but you been would. But okay so remember who I am and remember but I can't so don't do fashion. Okay boom so I'll try to keep that on the list. Remember who you are, don't do fashion, don't love until it's time for you to love and be married and like we wanna see you happy. I'm trying to satisfy the fans. And listen, add another one, don't text AB

because he gonna put it out there. The nerve to bring that up. The nerve that he did, I was mad. I don't know why this is a thing. Oh my god. Okay. Before you move to AB, I just want to know this shit. Have you ever used a diaper on stage? It's not a diaper! It wasn't a diaper! It was a real diaper. Can you show him the picture? What is wrong with you? That's what they called it. That's what they was calling it, trying to be funny. It's an actual outfit, yo.

No, because you know the rapper DaBaby used to wear a diaper on things. Oh my god, yes, his grown ass. Way, way, way back in the day. Because the whole, the baby. The baby. That's what he used to call it. You need to stop.

That's not nice. Because that was his whole persona. It was DaBaby, so he had a pamper on during weekends. When he was like attached to that belt? Yeah, that was before he came out. Oh, like a belt on the side. No, it was a pamper. No, he used to wear it as a pamper, Keisha.

It was to promote himself. This is the baby got on. Over the jeans? No, he didn't have the jeans on. He did not have ass out with the diapers. He didn't have the ass out. He didn't have the damn ass out. I don't believe that.

Keisha not coming here for another seven years. I'm on the job. I'm not coming back here. She not coming here for another seven years. I've never paid attention. Everybody be like, Keisha, I'm not like I stopped to look. So I thought you were playing. It wasn't a pamper. She's not coming back here for another seven years. I'm not coming back here. She's not coming back here for another seven years. I never paid attention. Everybody be like, he's what I'm, I'm not like I stopped to look. So I thought.

It wasn't a pimple. That's your job. Don't do that. You know what you're doing. I don't be paying attention. You know what you've been doing since you've been with Wendy. But exactly what happened? Did you punch him?

Did you want to punch your friend? The diaper? Oh my goodness. AB. Oh, Antoni. I mean, Antoni, I'm talking about Adrian. That's the wrong AB. Not the? Oh my goodness. AB. Oh, Antoni. I mean, Antoni, I'm talking about Adrienne. I'm talking about that's the wrong AB,

not the one that be getting beat up, the one that be beating people up. Oh my God. Oh my God. What, why? I don't know, I don't know. All I know, and I'm gonna try to be as respectful as I could be at this point,

because I do think that he said a lot, but in addition to that, he also said that nobody wants me, and nobody cares about me. So I just felt I took that as a, that's like a, cool. Then that means that you shouldn't speak about me. That means that there should be nothing there.

There should be, if you, nobody wants or cares, then it shouldn't be spoken on anymore. That's what I thought that meant. I just don't like corny shit, and I just wanted to ask you, did you punch him for that? I didn't know, I didn't know. I haven't seen him for years, for years, since that.

Since that was it, I haven't seen him. So I don't even know, I asked him to stop. I told him I have children and I would prefer to, Right. Yeah, not have to go through this. And please, and God bless you. And it persists. Got you. Was there ever a point you thought to yourself,

I gave the world too much of me? When you think about all of this stuff that's coming up in this interview, and you're like, damn, all of that has been out there. It is, but I guess then I wouldn't be Keisha Cole. In order to have Keisha Cole. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So. In order to have Keisha Cole's... Some things I wish I could just erase for sure.

Yeah. Like what? Like the last two minutes of this conversation. Wait, before you erase I gotta go back to something. No, wait. Keisha gotta go too. Before we erase, this is my last question. You said Shanti having another baby.

So that's a thing? Oh, I thought that's what they said. Oh, no. No, you just broke it. No, no way. Kishi gotta go too. Before we write this, my last question. You said Shanti having another baby. So that's a thing? Oh, I thought that's what they said. Oh. Oh, no. No, you just broke that. No, no, no, no.

The second baby. I didn't break anything. No, I saw this on the internet. Kishi Cole just announced Shanti's having a baby. No! I swear. I did not announce. There were rumors.

It had not been confirmed. So I'm like, what the heck is happening? I thought that happened when they was on Live the other night and now I thought they said it I swear, I thought maybe maybe Keisha did break it and I don't know eight years now We could start a race it now go ahead. Okay Minutes erased. Okay. I know you gotta go. What did fame take from you? We'll take from your inner child that you're still trying to give back

when you think about the last 20 years? I was 21 when I made it. I had lived my little childhood. I didn't miss a beat. Actually I was bad as hell running through the streets in Oakland, trust me, trust me, I didn't miss a beat. I'm cool now, I'm cool, I'm cool. Do you feel the love after all the bullshit? Do you feel the love today? Of course. Heck yeah. I mean, I haven't made a record in so long. I did Kalani. I did that

record with Kalani. I did do a record with Huncho. I just got in the studio with Trippie Redd. I mean, I did a song with him. Yeah. You gonna do another album? And this Glowrilla thing, this Glowrilla thing. Hey. Love Glowrilla. You cleared the sample for that, for the love?

I did. Okay. That's the stuff. Yeah, y'all getting that first here. I thought I would because I love you guys so much. And yeah, so that's gonna be super fly. I'm supporting Glow. I'm supporting Glo. I like her style.

Love Glo. Are you doing another album? You like her too? Love her. She's so cute and sweet. She can make good ass music. She can make great music. She obviously seen her on stage.

I was like, I coached her, I said, yeah, this time. You playing that record? I gotta ask this. Okay, if Kanye called you today and said, yo, I want you to do one more song with me right now. What'd you say? Well, first we're going to church. Okay.

And yeah, we're calling, we both gonna call the pastor at this point because everybody needs a little God. Yes. You know what I mean? And I don't know what's going on and I'm not here to judge that at all. But I definitely would,

I would like for my friend to actually like really, I mean, I don't know how hard or how bad it hurts. Yeah. To people to say things and do things and like I would really want him to find some love for real. I wish that for all of us. To that note, do you feel the way when you performed last night? Keisha Cole ladies and gentlemen. What kind of mic is this? This is awesome.

Are you doing another album? I am. I am. Hopefully. Hopefully. You ain't start yet. You know what I'm saying? It's like when you feel things. Like I did a song. I did a song. Yeah, about my last relationship. How many toxic relationships have you been in since then?

No, come on man. No, I'm just saying. This is triggering. It's like two. I don't say how many toxic relationships have you been into things? No, I'm just Thank you the way it is the 20th anniversary tour celebrating the 20th anniversary of her debut album and we love you more, thank you. The Way It Is, the 20th anniversary tour, celebrating the 20th anniversary of her debut album. And we love you, Keisha. Yeah, I love you guys too. You're gonna be in New York on July 12th too, by the way. July 12th, we out skiing. It's The Breakfast Club, it's Keisha Coe.

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