The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Lil Rel Howery On Getting Healthy, Being His Best Self, New Projects + More

Episode Date: January 31, 2025

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody. It's DJ NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. He's the dream killer, ladies and gentlemen.

Yes, he hates bad people now. He is the bigger the big backs. First of all, that's not true. Look, I'm just saying, like, because people, you know, everybody, when they see me, they're like, man, you know, you lost weight, you look good. What you doing? And then I started listening to things off, like, yo,

I stopped drinking. I did this, I did that. And then they just be staring at me. So now I'm just really honest. So a big dude just asked me in the hallway, you know, what I'm doing. I told him, he just still looked at me, because I could see the grease stain on his jockeys.

God damn. And I was like, well, Nicky, you ain't gonna do it. What'd he say? He just like, man. I could tell it hurt, but it was, man. What was the list? I mean, literally, I was like, therapy. I stopped drinking.

This is a lifestyle. I started five years ago consistently, dude. I literally get up every morning, no matter what time I gotta get up, at least go to the gym for an hour. I got stuff set up in my house. I go boxing three times a week. It's like when you tell them they be like, oh you really doing it doing it. Oh, so you worked worked. Yeah, cuz they want you to say that you got the shot. That's truly what they want to say.

That's what they want to say. That's it. Are you doing the Ozempic? It's like no I can't. And it's not distant nobody, you know what I'm saying? But it's funny cuz people roast you with the Ozempic thing. Yeah. Even though it's commercial sport like people go to my page you know what I'm saying? But it's funny, because people roast you with the ozempic thing. Even though it's commercials for it. Like people will go to my page, like and say I do some workouts,

they're like, ozempic! That's all they say. Like, I didn't do it, but okay, brother. That got hurt though, because you actually did it. Like you talk about your process, and now they throw ozempic on you. Like, I just told you, I box three times a week. It used to hurt, but it don't anymore,

because I don't understand how that's arose and they have commercials for it that say that is what it's supposed to do. It's just like if I shit, it's like, oh, you go penicillin or Pep the Bizmol, what the fuck, you know what I mean? Like, come on, fam. And I've seen you over time

and you didn't just wake up like that. Like you have gradually lost your balance. Jess, you've seen it. It was a process. It wasn't like overnight, I guess like, and then, I don't know, it it was funny that didn't happen in the hallway But just I'm proud of myself This is the most proud of like happy as I think I've ever been like be proud of black people because back in the day

We say they're long crack or all got age. They still say stuff like that They still go say you're crap, but then I don't even understand with this like You know after the chat with then you would just think people would just leave people to fuck along. That's right. Like for real like you don't know but if I look happy damn but people are so sad so they'd be like and it is a lot of happy crackheads so like if crackheads crackheads weren't always skinny like it was a dude named Johnny Cash on the west side of Chicago who had the biggest cap he's was just the most athletic crackhead because he walked every fucking day. Most crackheads in my era were in shape. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They really was. They was picking up shit, they was shoveling, they was doing all types of shit to get the crack money.

So they was in shape. I never seen a fat crackhead though. You ain't never seen a fat one and then the skinny ones are the ones, you know, I think they had to be kind of already a little skinny and then it was, I don't know why we talking about it. I'm be honest with you, I ain't never seen a fat one and then the skinny ones are the ones You know, I think they had to be kind of already a little skinny and then it was out I don't know what we talked about you I never seen a dead one they all the crack heads that I knew growing up still I recognize it is date. It is day cuz crack well crack a cocaine right? So it's the cheap shit Well crack is fried cocaine. Yeah, but it's like the cheap. It's the cheap version of it I mean, that's what it's no fault cheap version of it, I mean that's what Snowfall said. Why are we talking about crack right now?

How do we get in here? How do we get in here? So crack is what we need to lose weight, bro. Boring story. I mean honestly, I think some of this shit is crack. Like I don't, nobody knows what is it though. Ozymphic is for diabetes and then people do it to lose weight. It's fucking weird.

Yeah. We're in a weird ass time. But people comfortable talking about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm like, y'all got people that's saying they doing it. Like I always tell people. Y'all picking on me. Leave you a long long time ago when I had a talk show on MTV you came on there you never looked fucked up to me like the

way of people acting they act like I was fucking like I was the veil Cropper and in Bruce Bruce, and fucking Don Deleweze. God damn, bro. They did that, didn't they? I was Al Sharpton. Damn. Al Sharpton lost some weight too now. Yeah, but they don't even pick on this nigga. No, I don't know. I get what you're saying.

They let Al Sharpton live. Baby, that's what I do. I need to show up and do more shit for people. Yeah, Lee Mille. We got a new movie, Dog Man. Dog Man did it now. This children's movie I need to be talking about. After 20 minutes of crack talk. 20 minutes of crack? I thought about crack kids. Oh yeah, for the kids.

Dog Man is out. What's Dog Man about? Dog Man is an amazing cartoon based movie. But it is kind of... Dog Man ain't dark, but it's, cause you know, they put the head together with the man. But it's a really funny and fun movie. I got a chance to do it with Pete Davidson.

And kids are loving this movie. And it looked like it's tracking to do really well. So I'm excited to be in that space where we do those cartoon movies that really killed the box office. And I think this is going to be one of them. killed the box office. And I think this is gonna be one of them. Is the box office back? Yeah, for certain stuff.

I think family stuff is doing well. One of them days, I'm proud of what that's doing. I'm in that too. And that's good for comedy too, comedy movies. And they did a good job of that too, cause they did a good job of casting and just making it funny. Cause a lot of stuff just hasn't been really funny,

funny for real again. I mean, that's what I'm doing. I'm about like when I leave here I start directing my first movie that I'm starring in and doing Tiffany's in it and I guess I could do yeah I mean we got no PR budget so I might as well just say. How's it start now? So Carlos Miller, got Carlos, King Batch, Tony Baker. So this is gonna be it's gonna be fun like I believe like it's time to start casting comedians for real in these comedies again. It's a comedy horror. There's one comedian you ain't named that be getting busy.

Who? She works up here? Oh Jess? Oh you Jess? Hey y'all. Jess is killing it. We all done did that before. I ain't going, I'm not doing that again.

Shut up. We know you did. Don't do that. And say that. I do not say that. You give us a few chances, yo. Also Jess, like if it was no, I'm not doing that again. Shut up, we know you didn't. Don't do that. Just say that. I do not say that. You give him all the chances, yo. Also, Jess, like if it was something,

I love Jess, so I know we gonna work again soon. Yeah, absolutely. Yo, shut up, man. Don't do that, I love Jess. We're gonna be all the time over this. For real? Yes, yo. And you were like, great, like, I'm surprised,

like people not begging you to do more sitcoms. Yeah. That your timing and everything was just natural and perfect. Thank you, bro. But it's not a lot of sitcoms with black people nowadays. I and everything was just natural and perfect. Thank you bro. But it's not a lot of sitcoms with black people nowadays. I mean. Not to join y'all.

What y'all call that? Two camera? What do they call it? Multi cam. Multi cam, yeah. No, it's not. I mean, but you still got like the Miss Pat show, the Upshaw's. Yeah, yeah.

So I just think we just gotta like, we just gotta do it. I mean, Bounce got a bunch of, yeah. You about to say nobody watching Bounce. I mean, bounce got a bunch of, yeah. You better say nobody watching bounce. I didn't say that. That's what you were about to say, right? I didn't say that. No, I didn't say that.

But you can create something that maybe somebody will watch on it. No, I think it's time to like start downplaying those places like the bounces and all these different places. Like let's go there, let's bring our material there. We trying to get to these other spots. Go to the place that's gonna accept your material.

But it's a money thing too. I agree with you, but you know, we can't just go to these places and do charity. They gotta have the budget. Well, the budgets ain't that great for the other stuff, the big stuff neither. They cut everything. So you might as well go to a place that's gonna let you creatively do what you're supposed to do. Do what you wanna do.

That's why I like Tubi's a lick. I love Tubi. See? The breakfast hook is on Tubi. Yo, I'm tellin' you. Oh no, no, don't proudly say, oh, we on Tubi now. You gotta joke about Tubi every day. I said it kinda low. I said, we on Tubi? Yeah, right. Told y'all, man. I love Tubi though. No, don't proudly say we want to you. Yeah, you got a joke about

It's smart I don't think there's no better comedy on in on the planet than to be but unintentional So could you imagine if they had a really good meeting with them? And that's one of the things I approached him about like it's still like cuz I don't want to just give him content I'm like, you know, I want to be let me be an executive over here. Let me help with your literally, let me be, let me run your comedy. Yeah. That'll help bring the stuff in there. But I'm trying to give them my special. I just shot, you know, I did a comedy festival last year

and I shot my special there. So I feel like 2B is a lick, man. 2B got 94 million, what is it? 94 million monthly viewers or something crazy number like that. They got the view. Like that's why it's time to really like, if they're smart, just you literally could do what Netflix did.

Just start taking in really good content. Like WB and shit. I wanna do a Breakfast Club murder mystery on Tubi. One of my favorite shows on Tubi is like- You wanna do a Breakfast Club murder mystery? Murder mystery. Yeah. Okay. Cause I like this show called,

Jess was on it called I Got A Story To Tell. It's an anthology series. Man, that shit's so good. You seen the gas station pill episode with Young Jack and Ronnie Jordan? That was good. What? Ronnie Jordan was really good in that.

Hilarious. Joc was too. Have they ever asked you to play an ugly person? Like, Raul, we need you to play. What? In the show, Joc had to be an ugly, his character was supposed to be ugly. Well, start with that.

Have they ever said that to you? Was that the character description? Like, yeah. No, seriously, have you seen it? I mean. It was just the nigga that he wanted to be with sex. No, they called him ugly. Well start with that. Have you ever said that to your brother? Yeah, was that the camera description? Like there. No seriously, have you seen enough? I don't, I mean. It was just the nigga that he wanted to be was sexy, ultra sexy. I ain't never been asked to play a ugly person.

Well maybe I have, I asked Kat Williams, he said I'm ugly, so maybe I haven't been the ugly one. Kat did say that. He called me ugly, he called me the ugliest nigga. He's like, man you go to the mall in Atlanta, ain't nobody gonna talk to you. I'm like, that's weird. I'm like go to the mall in Atlanta, ain't nobody gonna talk to you. I'm like, that's weird. I'm like, I did well in Atlanta when I was single.

With what though? You know what I'm saying, I was in the streets. Know what I'm saying, with men, women in Atlanta. Jesus Christ. Jesus Charlemagne. What is he throwing at you? He called you ugly. No, Real, nowadays you got to make sure.

He asked you what you identified. Charlemagne, come on. Not you, I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about for the internet. He specifically asked me. Yes, because for the internet, because I don't want them to take this out of context. He wanted to know what you prefer. I'd rather them take it out of context than you make it context.

Dumbass. Like you made it context. What did you do to show me? Everybody has assumed that. Oh man. He just called you ugly. He wanted to know what you want. He did call me ugly.

He wanted to know what you identify as. Jesus said you use those in pickle and crack. Jesus. You made it in game. You see what they did? They just TMZ'd me. Is you just trying. Now, Rell eyed me up and down to see what he did. You didn't even know what you were doing. You didn't even know what you identify as? I'm out here doing everything. Jesus said you use those in pickle and crack. Jesus Christ. You see what they did? They just TMZ'd me.

Is you just trying. Now Rell eyed me up and down to see what he can jump on. But you didn't go that far. I mean, Envy, you took it. I mean, come on. He said crack. He always takes it. Some of this stuff was a conversation.

We were talking about the crack area. He said I was on crack. You see what I'm saying? But I've never seen you with a man. I would never ask, hey, you was Atlanta. Did you date a man or woman? I would never say that. No, it was only the ladies.

Atlanta is full of gorgeous bitches. You see what I'm saying? But I've never seen you as a man. I would never ask, hey, you was Atlanta. Did you date a man or woman? I would never say that. No, it was only the ladies. Atlanta is full of gorgeous black women. When I was in my single days, I used to have good times out there. How has being engaged changed you? I'm cool. I'm chilling. I'm not in no thirsty place, you know what I'm saying? But I was like that before I even proposed her. I just got to a point where I was just like, I'm chilling out. I'm not in no thirsty place, you know what I'm saying? But I was like that before I even proposed to her. I just got to a point where I was just like,

I just wanna chill. I'm grown, I'm not, you know what I mean? I like literally just love being around my girl. That's it. And it's your second time getting married. Both of us, yeah. It's both our second time around. And we ain't diddy, everybody like,

when you gonna do it? We possibly may have a reality show, and so we may wait to do it and talk about it on the show, yeah. Do you wanna do that? We possibly may have a reality show and so we may wait to do it and talk about it on the show, yeah. Do you wanna do that? Yeah, because what I wanna do is actually people to see the real conversation about it because I don't necessarily wanna win, so she does.

So we've actually stopped talking about it so we can save it for the show so people can really see what this real conversation is about. Why don't you wanna win it? I think it's overrated. I think I talked about that here one time By the way that started a real conversation not just online but just in everyday life people was talking to me about that I think you said uh the wedding and a marriage. What was it? Yeah, you got Yeah, I think you should be focused on the marriage but also we should be I think we should treat

Anniversaries like weddings. How we gonna celebrate some it like, it's like when kids start school, right? Here, freshman day, we give them the graduation this freshman year. You don't know if this nigga gonna stay in school the whole four years? Yeah. So that's what I say, I think we should take anniversaries that make those the big celebrations

and not the weddings. Not when you say it like that, it's like you spend all this money on a wedding and you don't know how long it's gonna last. Yeah, I ain't been through nothing, ain't nothing to really celebrate. I think anniversaries deserve that energy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

I like it when you said it last time, like nobody puts the thought in the emphasis into the marriage. What does this marriage mean? What this marriage gonna be like? And then like, especially if y'all got through a tough year, yes, I want you motherfuckers to celebrate me. Right, right.

We did went through a tough time, like celebrate, make anniversaries bigger. Spending all this money on these, because now everybody break up so quick too, it looks just crazy. But how would that affect you? I guess the times are so different now, you can do whatever you want.

I was about to say, how would that affect you doing reality TV and still doing film? But I guess it don't even matter nowadays. Nowadays, because it's not, it wouldn't just be, more or less the focus would be on her because I think she's amazing, like blending our families and things like that. So like also too, it's some fun to watch the way I'm moving in my career too. So, you know, it's a lot of things people don't know. Like I really, man, I really been on my business this season for me. This is the season of business for me. So that's why I did a festival.

That's why I'm directing. That's why I'm producing and doing all this stuff. I'm in boss mode now. Are there any rules anymore in Hollywood? You know, I think everything is Hollywood. I wish somebody would say, because I always hear like, shout out to my homeboy Country Wayne, but he always kind of talking about like going against Hollywood, but I'm like, bro, you in Hollywood.

Like you're filming, you're making movies, that is Hollywood. I think we keep thinking Hollywood is a place and it's an industry. I don't care if you put stuff on content on Instagram, you're part of Hollywood. You know what I'm saying? That's Hollywood.

So like, I just think we, I think people love to just say, I'm not a part of this thing, but damn, Hollywood is Hollywood. As long as you're making movies and TV, even skits and all that stuff,, but damn, Hollywood is Hollywood. As long as you making movies and TV, even skits and all that stuff, episodic stuff, that's Hollywood. Yeah.

Yeah. I actually feel like the traditional Hollywood is kind of behind the eight ball, because you got these people like the country women, the Drewskis, whoever they, like they doing all of these skits and sketches every single day. It's like watching a TV show every day. Well, it don't exist, I mean, it don't exist in a good way, right?

It's actually embracing more people. That's why, like, you know, we're talking about Tubi. I do love that we are embracing these other filmmakers. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just, it's coming from everywhere. It's not like, I think we just be so, it's just feel good, I guess, to say Hollywood. And it's like, okay.

They don't even shoot in LA for real no more. Yeah. You about to be out here in Jersey a lot? You said what? You gonna be out in Jersey a lot? They got the Lions game studio over there. They got the Netflix one in there. We shooting in Detroit, you know what I'm saying?

But we shooting that. So like, it's, I mean, hopefully LA honestly work on its tax credit because especially with the fires and everything, you wanna see that community get built back up. And so hopefully you work on these tax incentives because there's nothing being shot in LA, which is crazy.

You live in LA now? Yep. Were you affected by the fires at all? Yeah, no. We only had to evacuate one time and that's because of the Kenna fires, which was really close to us. Like we can see it, but we was only gone for one day.

But I couldn't sleep that whole first week, because the phones was going off, I was watching the news the whole time, making sure the fan was good, because you didn't know when you had to pick up and leave. And you had to have the mindset of, oh, it's a chance all this stuff is gonna be gone. Did you pack up what you wanted just in case?

Like, I'm gonna put this right here in the car just in case we gotta go? Yeah, I just took, honestly, I was okay with losing a lot of the stuff. I was more or less, I just, all the papers and with losing a lot of the stuff I was more or less I just all the papers and stuff there important papers. Yeah, but I just I didn't even think all these Jordans was gone Yeah, I was like yeah But it's it's that was one of the craziest things I've ever you know from Chicago, but like this that Fire thing and the Ambers was flying everywhere. I ain't ever seen no shit like that. You could see the Ambers and everything. Because it was so windy.

It was like two days where it felt like hurricane winds. It was frightening. And they couldn't stop the fires because of that. Like the fire departments and shout out to like, man, the firefighters, like they got all those young people who, you know, that's in jail, they came out, they did most of the work. It was crazy.

So what's the point of being in LA now if you're not from LA? Like salute to everybody who's from LA because they're the people who like really love LA. They rep it in a real way. They don't even think what y'all do or what we do when we go out there in really LA, right? They're like, yeah, y'all transplants.

Exactly. So what's the reason for you to be out there now? I mean, I don't know how long we're gonna stay out there to be honest with you, but I love LA. You know, and you know, still, cause wifey was talking, to be honest with you, but I love LA. His wifey was talking, it was a real conversation about it. Cause I don't know, I'm not in a rush to leave, you know what I mean? Cause I like LA, I'm from Chicago,

I think you should live outside of wherever you grew up at. If we move, we probably gonna go to Mississippi though. Why Mississippi? Cause that's where she from, people got a bunch of land out there, so I'm like, dude, we might as well go down there and build something. If I'm not mistaken, there's always been a connection.

Like a lot of people who came to Mississippi back in the day migrated to Chicago. Yeah, it's a whole, I think that's why me and her hit it off to be quite honest with you because I love a country, country, southern black girl. And she's a black girl because people love to call her not black. I do? Man, I be, let me tell you, this is what I catch. I catch it for losing weight and I catch it for like, yeah Kat said you got them light skin, you

got your light skin. They gave you, they gave you that light skin girl. They gave. Hollywood gave it. I was like, what do they do this? What the fuck are y'all talking about? They don't be giving out people. Did the Cat Williams thing motivate you to lose any weight anyway? Nah, no, no. I ain't motivated. It was alright losing weight. I was more or less like, when I saw Get Out,

I didn't like the way I looked. But it wasn't necessarily the physical part, it was just like, you know how you can see how, like I know it was a great moment, but I could see how sad I was. Even when I was doing a rail show, I was still trying to figure things out. It wasn't until I went to therapy for real, Charlamagne,

and was like, damn, I really buried so much shit that I didn't even know that was buried. And then you come from the crib for Chicago, even some of the stuff that I grew up seeing, I normalized it, and that shit was affecting me. So until I went to therapy and really talked this shit out, I didn't realize I had all this shit going on. I really didn't Speak today because you were you were very reserved on set like you's quiet You just like it was a lot of pressure on me on that set man

I was doing I didn't know you as well as you know, like your friends knew and all that type of stuff But I could still see you know, it it, then you had your kids with you out there. It was a lot of things that you had to do. Also, too, I'm trying to make a show to impress black people, which is so fucking tough to do. Lord have mercy. You know, I learned a big lesson from there. You just gotta creatively do what you do.

Because you're not, everybody always gonna find something wrong with something. You know what I'm saying? So like, I learned a lot from doing a rail show. Even just learning to like, delegate better. You know, a'm saying? So like I learned a lot from doing a rail show. Even just learning to like delegate better. You know a lot of times you saw me because I was always thinking about what I had to do. So I learned a lot. I mean like once again between therapy and then owning a lot of stuff like I do everything so much better. I'm a better person on every

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No, I was hurting because I was going through a divorce. Like round get out was Carmichael show. And so going through a divorce, trying to figure out, I think most dads don't talk about this, but when the kids are with your mom, and they were with the mom, and they was with you, and now you're by yourself, man, that's an adjustment.

And most men don't talk about it, you know, because everybody think, are you out here, you know, because most, you know, the baby mom's like, are you out here living it up? And da-da-da, like, no, I'm like laying in their rooms, because I miss them. I'm sad, yeah. I'm sad as fuck, because I don't have that energy around anymore, like no, I'm like laying in their rooms because I miss them. I'm sad, yeah. Yeah, I'm sad as fuck

because I don't have that energy around anymore, you know what I'm saying? So I was really sad and I had to really, when I talked to my therapist about it, I had to open up about stuff that I didn't even know that was buried like that. Into the outside world, that was your moment. Like, you know, you was having your big break, get out.

You know, now I'm calling myself. Well, that's what kept me alive though. Charlamagne was the art. Performing kept me alive. Like if I had to deal with what I was truly thinking about myself, I don't know. Well, I'm sure you learned this in therapy. They say that, you know, staying busy

is a response to trauma. That's what I learned in therapy. 100% it is. So, and I don't see, I never saw you take a break. Nope, yeah. I mean, if you think about that time, I was doing like, I mean, look, this is the thing about it.

Like I don't get enough credit. Like I be looking at like, I was literally talking, I was doing like, I mean, look, this is the thing about it. I don't get enough credit. I'd be looking at like, I was literally talking, I was doing an interview yesterday, I was talking about how I saw one of those pictures with all the comedians on there, you know, like, you know, these the, and I'm like, how the hell I'm never on these lists? Like, I had to get out, I did like 30 movies.

How many stand-up comics have done that, with specials, and had a sitcom? So I can't make none of these lists? Well, tell me who the list is for us now. You know it is, it's the same people. It's the picture with the greats on there, Eddie, Richard, the Kings, all those guys, Chris, Dave, Kevin, Eddie Griffith.

I saw Jay Pharoah on there, they had Gerard on there, Martin, you know, the list. But it's like, if you think about it when you look as totality as a resume, I don't know how many of those guys, even the ones who's great, match it with my resume. Why do you feel like they don't put you on the list? I don't know.

Sometimes I feel like either I've made it look really easy, because I mean, I'm still a beast on stage. It ain't like any audience person that come see me live, because sometimes I always surprise my audiences because some of them only see me in movies. And they be like, damn, you're hysterical. I'm like, yeah, I'm a really good stand up comic too. Is it because sometimes they look at you

possibly as a loner? Like when you see these comedians, you see comedians with each other. We always see Raoul by himself. I mean, but shit, Eddie Griffin don't be hanging out with nobody. Also too old, right? I know that you've been doing it for a long time, but to the general public, it hasn't

even been 10 years. Yeah, but think about this. If you truly look at, I literally did it in such an old school, like I would at least think my people would at least push, because I came from the chilling circuit. I did it literally step by step. I on comic view you know people don't remember that they don't know that but that's but if you're in care of a plant but then but that's what I'm saying like even that like but they still put them on these lists like I think honestly it has to come from the other comedians right and

I've never from the other comic like comics are text me I have comics that would never tweet or Instagram they love my comics, like comics are text me. I have comics that would never tweet or Instagram. They love my specials, but they're text me. And that to me, that's the part of that like weird, it is a clicky thing. Some of this stuff is a little clubby, but like, I don't know, I think, and also to his own me a little bit where when I had the heat on me, like, like extremely on me,

I didn't necessarily want the press for it. that's cuz I was in a place where not necessarily just sad but I don't know I just didn't feel comfortable. You didn't want people to see you yet. I didn't want them to see me. Yeah. That's that's real shit I didn't want that cuz I wasn't I didn't like the I didn't like how it felt even though things was going great cuz think about that we get out dude I should have been on some magazine covers I could have did that stuff I was just like let the work speak for itself. Let me just stay in the back. You know. It did culturally though. Culturally I felt like you know that character in Get Out was a big deal.

I've done some culture things like even just being on Insecure that's a big culture thing. Even like doing movies like Judas and the Black Messiah. Like being a part of, I've been a part of some really powerful moments. Like even when Jay did his 444 album and when we did that music video, the Black Friends, and it was me, East, and Jaraq. Like I've been a part of some really cool things. I just never participate in hyping myself up

like I should have. It is interesting, right? And I be having these conversations sometimes. Like when I look at like you and Jaraq, Carl Michael, y have. It is interesting, right? And I be having these conversations sometimes. Like when I look at like you and Jirard Carmichael, y'all had everything, right? Like y'all had the sitcoms, the HBO specials, the big movies, but then it still don't cut through like, like an 85 South show or a Duval or a...

Well, that's true and not true. It's just spaces for everything. Right. And so like you think about Carmichael's show, that's still a very well loved show. Like so many people still talk about it and still like approach me about it. Um, but once again, Gerard is kind of like me too. I think until we saw like Gerard, we're seeing him come into his own too. Now he's a lot more open about everything than he's ever been. You know, we started by the time we got to, uh, rock Daniel, you know what I'm saying? That's why he had his moment. That's a lot more open about everything than he's ever been. You know, we started about the time we got to Rock Thangio, you know what I'm saying? That's

why he had his moment. That's why he wanted to end me. That's why you saw him get more attention with that. And so I think that might be my season now to be quite honest with you because now I'm like, you know, some like I'm such a nerd at this shit. I purposely did everything I did so I could be one of the greatest. I wanted to sit kind of with my with my name on network TV. All that shit was done on purpose. Even just the way I did the movies is based off what Bernie Mac did. If I get one small role, it's like, Bernie, I'd kill any role.

Okay, real, make sure, even if it's small, be memorable. You know what I'm saying? But now I'm in a place now, even just having a great PR team I have now, this is the most I've ever been, but I feel good, I'm happy, and I believe in myself for real. So I'm comfortable showing people who I am. But I also think, like you said, is being seen, right?

If you think of some of the comedians that you name, you see them all the time, right? But it's not just see them on billboards, you see them at the game, you see them at the game, you see them at these events, you see them at these events. You opening this all the time. You picture and you see them all the time, even in newspapers, you see them all the time.

Well that's why I've been participating. It's so funny because I did that Jennifer Hudson walk thing that came out yesterday and people have been fucking with it. But that's what I'm saying, that's a part of I know now. It seems stupid but it connects. Well because I feel good though. And I'm telling you, I'm really confident and I'm so happy.

It's almost like I feel I'm excited about letting people feel my energy. But at that time, I didn't. Almost some of that stuff, I didn't know if I felt like I deserved it. Imposter syndrome. Yeah. I was in a weird place.

And I could be honest about that. At the time, I couldn't even admit to that. Even when Gerard and I could tell something was going on and I couldn't articulate it to my friends what was going on yet because I didn't understand. I meant to ask earlier, do you do couple therapy with your fiance? We're thinking about it. She thinks we should do it but let me say this I think we should do it but for me it was like I want her to go therapy consistently on her own first because women love to do this couple shit, but won't work on a personal shit You know, I mean yeah, so I love therapy then you should love therapy we both consistently going therapy could cool

We can go talk to somebody together because we know how to do therapy, right? She has to find the right person for her though as well. Yeah I mean she had a cheese where she who she's talking to now. She has to find the right person for her though, as well. Yeah, I mean she had a, she's, who she's talking to now, she absolutely loves. So we'll find like, and it's interesting with couples therapy, because I be watching like shows like Shrinking is one of my favorite shows. I love, damn I love that show. You ever watch Shrinking? I saw a couple episodes.

So good. And so like, it's interesting, because you know, most couples go to like the pastors and, so I don't know, it's interesting to find who our couples therapy person would be. What you're saying is interesting because it's hard enough to start seeing yourself. Yeah. When you and your partner get together and y'all start peeling back them layers and you thought one thing and she thinks another, oh my God. You thought she was wrong with just you.

But Charlamagne, even though we don't go to therapy, we do that a lot. And it's been beautiful. Even one day, I think a couple of weeks ago, she was like, we need to communicate better. I'm therapy, we do that a lot. And it's been beautiful. I mean, like even one day, I think a couple weeks ago, she was like, we need to communicate better. I'm like, we're actually doing it. We just not agreeing. That's real. We talking about it.

And I think that's maturity too, being able to have a conversation and not agree. Like nobody has to win this. When you get there, that's good. That's when your relationship is good. Because first couple of years, I ain't gonna say most people mind, you fighting to win. You just want to win You know what you gotta do to win when you realize now we got two different opinions

All right, let's keep moving. That's that's when you you've established something No, it's that's where we're at too. And I actually love that. Like I love the way I Don't know and even with that? Like to be legitimately in love and appreciate what love really is and a partner, man, that's just next level. I like really appreciate her. You know what I'm saying? Like I love talking to her.

And once again, even when we don't agree, it's so interesting because she'll, sometimes she'll get really on 10. And I'll be like, all right, man. You love it like you love your kids? They always say, if you love somebody the way you love your kids, then you really in love. I think your partner's a whole nother level of that too though.

Because I remember when my dad, when my mom passed, and just we were trying to figure out his pain. Cause he lost somebody who was his best friend, who he decided, they made that decision together. That's a whole nother type of love and relationship. So I just think it's different. Yeah. I heard you say that you feel like she should get

therapy for herself first. Like what are some things that you see that she needs to work on, you know, individually before couples therapy? Hey y'all, don't get in trouble now. No, she's working on everything. I mean, we both are. And I ain't gonna put her personal stuff

because we do really talk about it. But she's working on it. That's why she goes with it. Danella is so, it is crazy. The stuff she's working on, all it's gonna do is make her even greater. And for me, I see her, and that's one of the things, sometimes when I kinda get on her about things,

it's because I see, I can see the greatness in her. You know what I'm saying? And like when somebody really see, like, I mean, honestly, I tell her this all the time, I stopped drinking because I had the right woman. It was something I wanted to do for a long time, but I couldn't, I don't know, whatever I needed she was able to provide for me.

And it was from this, like, I know you want to get better and I'm not going to even poke at you about it. I'm going to just cover you and pray for you and man, I'm going to be there for you. And I'm going to let you know I'm proud of you. And that's what she did. And I literally just told her that. It's like one of our weird emotional crying, and that's what she did. And this, I literally just told her that, like, it's like one of our weird emotional crying, cause that's what I meant too,

like the tears come down there, like what, like some days I wake up and I just be like, I like can't believe I might, you saved me. Like she literally to me saved my life. That's dope. Yeah. Well guys, I know you gotta go, but what got you to a place of worthy?

Hmm, oh, that's a good question. Wow. I know you gotta go, but what got you to a place of worthy? Mmm. Ooh, that's a good question. Wow. You know, and that's that, at first I didn't feel like it, because you know, you go through, it's so funny, that happened with the fires too a little bit, where like, I kind of felt guilty that I placed in, catch fire in a weird way.

Because I feel bad for everybody. Like people lost everything. And I'm like, dang, why do I feel guilty about being kind of blessed in a way? Cause it didn't happen to me. But it's that same thing was like, you know, when I felt, when I felt worthy for real Charlamagne, it was really, here we go.

It was one of the therapy sessions, right? And I remember my therapist was, I was trying to explain to, I don't know what I was saying to him, maybe acting like I didn't deserve some of this stuff, I couldn't understand why. And that's when we started doing an exercise to talk to little me. You know what I mean? Like, yo, the kid who had the dream, who was on the west side of Chicago watching the TV, right? Like, dang, I wish I can, like it didn't seem realistic.

Like even when we say Hollywood, from where I live, I'm like, is that a real place? It felt like Oz. But then like she was like, talk to little you because you actually did it. And so that's when I had that moment like, oh shit, I went back and told little me like, dude, we made it in that movie theater where like you would sit there for hours

and watch back to back movies because it was just taking you away from whatever. You made it inside the TV. Like you're part of this beautiful, great dream you had, and you're worthy of it. Like you earned it, fam. I was like, damn.

And that's really when I felt worthy. And that's why I love that, one of the biggest compliments I do get more than anything is like, do you just seem happy? And I'm like, yeah, I'm so so comfortable and just even though I'm not just being real like even my relationship with God is on a whole other level. You know I'm saying like it's just the conversations I have with God now be so honest. Yeah. And so like lately what I said it again like this

probably been the most emotional I've ever been in my life. I just wake up sometimes with a new praise every single day. That's what it is. And I'm loving what I do more now. Even just promoting Dog Man. And I'm like, wow, I'm in this animated movie that's one of those big movies, and I get a chance for a book that,

The Voice Has Never Existed, and the first time a kid hears Chief Talk is me. That's so cool. I'm literally enjoying every aspect of this now more than I ever have. Gratitude. Yeah. Well, Rel, gotta go, guys.

We're proud of you, brother. Keep going to work, Rel. Appreciate it, man. Absolutely, man. It's Lil Rel, ladies and gentlemen. Make sure you check out Dog Man in theaters now. And it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

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