The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Mannie Fresh & Juvenile On The Legacy Of 'Back That Azz Up' + More

Episode Date: August 12, 2024

The legendary Mannie Fresh and Juvenile sit down to discuss the legacy of their iconic hit "Back That Azz Up." Over two decades since its release, the track remains a cultural phenomenon. Mannie Fresh and Juvenile share behind-the-scenes stories of how the song came to life, its impact on hip-hop, and how it continues to resonate with fans old and new. Listen for More.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Yep, it's the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne Tha God. You know, Jess Hilarious is on maternity leave. Envy is actually in Louisiana. Oh, wow, I didn't know that. Yeah, she on maternity leave any moment.

So, Lauren LaRosa is guest hosting. And we got, man, I feel like legends is an understatement. I feel like icons is an understatement. Yes. Manny Fresh and Juvenile, 25 years of back that ass up god yes sir lord have mercy yeah man bro i mean the way you even represent it you know a lot of this started with you know you giving it acronyms and all of that and you know giving it his praise as well it's a negro spiritual yes yes bro back that ass up is a negro spiritual to this day did y'all still

think y'all would have people backing that ass up 25 years later spiritual. To this day, did y'all still think y'all would have people backing that ass up 25 years later? Hell no. I did. You might say. I felt, yeah. But, you know, man of the club, dude. Me, you know, personally as an MC, I didn't see it.

I was trying to enjoy myself with the moment I had, you know? Yeah, I saw it, like, you know, from the very beginning. You know, we did that song three times over when we was making it yeah because you know every time he did a rap you know i felt like it was beating up my beat so i did something to compliment what he was doing so when i did it again he did a better rap and i was just like yeah you know what i'm saying so by the third time we felt like okay this is it the version we got now was the third yeah yeah yeah you know what i'm saying so by the third time we felt like okay this is it the version we got now was with the third yeah yeah yeah yeah you know what i'm saying because every time we did it it

elevated you know and it got better and better and when we finally was like this the one i was like oh yeah this is gonna be the one he lied to y'all he was trying to be he was trying to kill me i was trying to beat him up so we got the last video it was about to turn and i'm like look bro y'all gotta let me go one more time. One more time, bro. So I changed it because at first I was doing a lot of rap, and I changed it to the one word thing, to the yeah, and flipped it that way.

Then man was like, all right, we got one now. So with the other versions, were you being too lyrical on it? I was. It wasn't right. Y'all still have the other two versions? No. I thought, yeah. You got rid of it? Yeah, I got rid of it. That was it yeah I got rid of it that was the days of 2 inch that was the days of 2 inch we was using them 2 inches over we can't save this we need these tracks got you so I was gonna ask y'all do y'all remember the day y'all made it but y'all made it multiple times yeah I remember though I can remember I can't remember the exact date but I remember where we was we was was in Nashville. Because High End back then, that was the last two songs.

I was kind of like beating on the desk when he was rapping, you know what I'm saying? And I was like, oh shit, we got one right there. When did Wayne get on it? Oh, after we done it. He was just like- Wayne was hanging around the studio making sure he got on.

Making sure he got on. He was just like, oh, there's no way this going down without me getting on this song. And I mean i i think he saw it as well because for him to hang around nobody else there he's just hanging around in the back and then when it was complete just pop up like a leprechaun or some like hey check this out check this out thank you man that's funny so are we gonna like because i know because I know at Essence Festival, like, there was like the whole thing there,

but because this is the 25 years you guys are out here now, are we going to get the full, you said that everybody was getting back together. Is that a thing? Is that happening? Well,

as far as I'm concerned, it's still happening. You know, as far as I'm concerned, it's still happening. But we all know what, you know, obviously what happened

on the internet. So I'm trying to resolve that. So that got to happen. You know, we got to sit down and have a conversation about that first. What does that look like between y'all when you say resolve and have the conversation?

Because y'all are brothers. Y'all are family, right? Imagine you being a big brother and your little brother's fussing. And you wish you could stop it. And, you know, it's pretty much nothing you can do about it. But I got a relationship with all of them. So it's one of them things that I'm trying to fix I'm gonna continue to try to fix

and until until that day happens I'm not giving up I feel like one thing gets to the internet it makes it more irreparable than it does complicate that at a certain age honestly you know especially if you just being introduced back to the world stay off the internet you know what I'm saying until you actually get your feet planted you know what the world, stay off the internet. You know what I'm saying? Until you actually get your feet planted, you know what I'm saying? Stay off the internet. Because social media, especially for me, is a tool.

It's a gift and a curse. It's a tool to sell something. It ain't where I air out my business. You feel what I'm saying? Right. So it's like Juvie said, we gonna keep on campaigning to fix it, you know, because the fans have spoken. This is what they want.

This is a lot of people that grew up on this, and it's even more crazy when you don't even know what you're arguing about. You know what I'm saying? It's like, what are we fussing about? Like, hey. So it's weird, but, yeah, we're going to keep on going. Me and Juv, y'all already see. We ain't turning down collars.

We out there. You get it, dude? When was the moment y'all realized Back That Ass Up was a cultural anthem? Like, because that happens over time. So when did y'all realize, like, boy, this ain't never going nowhere? I mean, I would say probably at the 10-year mark, you know, when I start realizing that, wow, I'm never going to get a chance to take a break. People are going to keep on trying to book me for shows, bar mitzvahs, weddings, and stuff like that.

That long? In 10 years? Yeah, 10 years in. I mean, the question he asked was kind of like asking me how long. Yeah, like, make 10 years in. And I'm like, damn, this song ain't never dying. Well, I looked at it from a DJ perspective. You know, it was the song that pretty much, as a DJ, this your go-to. Like, this the one that save you.

You know what I'm saying? When it's like, if everything else going bad, play back that ass up. You know what I'm saying? You can recuperate. And when it's a song like that, you know it's going to be around for forever. Like, you know, and it was always, it became the song that closed the club up. Closed, like, down south. It would be that last song that they played.

You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, oh, yeah, this one going to be here for a while. I've never heard of a song getting a proclamation. Man, Latoya Cantrell issued a proclamation declaring June 11th as back that ass up day. So on that day, people just walk around like, what are you doing? I don't know how they do it. I mean, but I think next year

we're going to celebrate it to the fullest and we'll see. We will see. Oh, y'all got something planned? Yeah, I got something planned. I plan on doing something in that same park, Shakespeare Park, where we shot the video, where we shot Slow Motion and Back That Ass Up. Wow. Bringing it back home to my area. That's my neighborhood.

What does Shakespeare Park mean to the city? It mean a lot to me, you know, a hell of a lot to the Magnolia Project because that's our park, right? You know, all the projects in the city have a park that's right close to it. And I went to school right there. That's my school in front of it, Carter G. Wilson.

It mean everything to me, bro. I mean, you an icon anyway, but when you bring things back to your community like that, to memorialize the community forever in videos, oh man. Oh yeah, man. That's the cool part about it. You see the outcome. If you look at both of those videos and you see how many people come out, that's all the

time. It was like that even when Manny Fresh came to DJ Block Parties in a project, and it was like that when I threw Block Parties in a project. And it's still like that. Even when I go back with this event, it's going to be crazy. So 400 Degrees is still your favorite song over Back That Ass Up to perform? Yeah, it is. I love Back That Ass Up, but Manny Fresh will tell you that's more his song

because he put all the hot parts on. I always tell people that, look, if Manny Fresh is on a song, wait until the breaks. Listen to where the breaks are. Listen to where the hot parts are is as soon as you come in on the song the crowd go to doing this they'd be like you know but they waiting on him that's his song to me 400 when i come out i'm clowning that's my that's my thing that's a negro spiritual too though hello yeah i eat sleep and talk right now 98 Mercedes on TV, I bought that. I'm telling you, Chargers have bought that.

That's one of them ones now. Why did it take so long for the video? Why did you never do a video originally? That's a universal cash money question. Yeah. Because it's a lot of songs on that album that I felt like that for. We wasn't ready to go on to the next album, really. Me know, me and him, but it was more of, you know, like he said, the powers that be was like,

hey, it's time to do another album. Have you still got five million records? Listen, we was like, it's a ton of videos. I think we could have done way more if we'd have put more singles out on there. Yeah, it was a bunch of singles on there. You know, Run For It, I'm On Fire. I'm On Fire, yeah.

You know what I'm saying? It's a bunch of them on there. You know, Run For It, I'm On Fire. I'm On Fire, yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's a bunch of them on there, bro, that we kind of like overlooked. Y'all had another one, man. I think it might've been on the second album. Put your sets up. I got the fire. I got that fire.

I don't have any water if you want that off the mind. I'm like, well, that should have been huge too. Well, that one did pretty good, that one. They actually put that one out as a single. Was pretty good. Yeah. Platinum. Okay, that's really good. I don one. We actually put that one out as a single. It was pretty good. Platinum. Okay, that's really good. I remember the video for that, though.

There was a video for that. We were standing on a project with the fire and all that. When I'm in the belly with the different phones and stuff. Yeah. You missed that one, dog. Maybe that's not the one I'm thinking about. You think about I need a hot girl. I need a woman who's like, Slim got a big flame throw.

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you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, you think about it, I already got to go to the old clinic. That song hard. That song hard as a motherfucker. What song is that?

That's on a hot board. You should know. I don't know. That's on a hot board. No, that's on my second album. I cannot think of the name of that record. That's when it come in. I ain't terrified from nothing.

I'm young, wild, crazy, and disgusting. Yes. Yeah. That shit. That shit. He know more than me. Because folks always say, I'm like, bro, I did an album. I didn't do a single, so I don't even know most of them.

I say we raised up looking at trees and brick walls. Stole the property, used the package. I know a song you're talking about. That's the song y'all hear on the album, because if you don't listen to that commercial with you and Ziggy, you'll miss the song. You have to listen to that. Y'all don't have it at-

So it's not, it's after a skit. Yeah, it's after a skit. And it's combined with the skit. Yeah, if you don't listen to the skit, you don't hear the song. When y'all don't have it so it's not it's after a skit yeah it's after this combined with if you don't yeah if you don't listen to the skit you don't hear the song when y'all sat down to like put these projects together like for that that time in that time were y'all thinking like because i know sometimes like you'll hear like oh like rockefeller stories and i'm like oh well we were thinking we want to tell stories in the videos because we knew movies were next like were you guys thinking that long out or were you just like we want to make good music because now you guys are soundtracks to commercials to all different people's celebrations

of life like was it that big of an idea for you guys at the time it was true to form like you know when we was making these records there was it was what we was living you know and i think that's why they they resonated with people so well like because it wasn't no gimmicks to them you know right now it would be like somebody going oh there's a gimmick in you saying this or doing this. To us, it was just like, nah, this is how I feel today, and I'm going to write it from a real perspective. And then with me, with some of my songs, I didn't make all my songs about me.

Like, how was me being third person? Like, that person in your ear, as you with that big body of beans, I'm like psyching you up, motivating you. So I think with that, I made songs that people could, you know, you will find something in the song that really relates to your life, you know? So I try to make songs that's not about me all the time. Even back of that, it ain't about me,

it's about the women, you know? So I think when you make songs like that, people tend to, it tends to stick to people a little longer. So, you know, I'm just grateful that we got opportunities to make the kind of music we make. I mean, when he did, you know, she get it from her mama, you know, it was just like, God damn, Juvie, like, that's touching.

Like, you know what I'm saying? I use that on Mother's Day. It's the truth. I use it on Mother's Day. You know what I'm saying? Like, for real. It's regular conversation. I hear people say that's Day. You know what I'm saying? It's regular conversation. I hear people say that now. If somebody tell my daughter she pretty,

my wife will be like, she get it from her mom. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And I think a lot of it might have been barbershop talk or whatever, but Juvie was great at picking up, dude, this is what the streets are saying right now, and I'm going to put it in a song. A lot of stuff used to really come from me just being in a project a lot

and hearing where everybody, you know, hearing stuff a lot. Right, got you. Yeah. I was going to ask, man, do you have a favorite album or beat that you produced, Manny? No, no. You said you just been making albums. Yeah, I don't have a favorite, you know, album or beat that I've done yet

because I really feel like I'm not finished. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people will say, oh, that was it. The crazy thing is, to me, my masterpiece might be something that only I like. You know, and to me, it doesn't have to go to everybody. It could just be like, this is my body of work that I love, and I'll sit here and just jam it my damn stuff. But yeah, I don't feel like I'm done yet. So yeah, I don't have one yet.

What about you, Jude? It ain't over till it's over, man. I feel like I got my second wind right now. So I'm back in the studio creating and I feel like I made a a lot of music but i don't know i feel the same way with him like i've made some great songs but i still think i have a little more to get out and until i do that i really i don't want to label anything as a masterpiece yet i let the fans do it that's interesting even when i look at wayne it feel like wayne just starting to get his just do as a lyricist like people have them all-time conversations. I got one conversation when you bring Wayne up, the GOAT. I think Wayne the greatest rapper of all time.

I've been with him. That's my dude. I saw the whole process of him. I saw the times where he couldn't curse and we were stopping him from saying certain things. Like, bro, you can't say that. Yeah, it sounds good, but you just can't say that. People don't want to hear that from you right now you know and just seeing the whole development of

wayne and where he at right now i just feel like he's the greatest of all time but then i feel like you should be in them all time hell yeah especially down south you always bro you always vouch for me i love you for that you always throw my name nice in the mix it's it's like you know that's that's like a barbershop fight you know when somebody's telling me you know they're like oh blah blah blah and i'm like but juvie bro you know what i'm saying why do you think why do you think that they don't throw you in those conversations is it because people are too busy having a good time to your music i think it's partially because i don't really care like even when they ask me they always they always ask me, who do you think the greatest rapper is? I'm like, I don't care.

I wish people stopped saying that. Let's say, who make the best song? Forget who the greatest rapper is, because I know some rappers that's real good. Let's check. Let's go to the numbers. Pull up any one of your greatest rappers, your best rapper, whoever you like a lot, and we'll put 400 Degrees against their best album.

Let's check the sales no double cds don't pull a double cd trick on me either that's some bullshit right there they quick to say oh he sold 10 million he had two cds in his packaging fam so if i sell five million he sold the same amount as me now let's go from there and then let the people you know i mean let the numbers decide so you think she just be about be about songs, not bars? Nah, not bars. Look, man, some of these cats can rap their ass off and can't make a song to save their life. I know a lot of great rappers who cannot make a hit.

A lot of it is we from a little small city in New Orleans. You know what I'm saying? And it's weird, like what you're saying. I don't know why we get overpassed so much or whatever with all of the numbers and all of the stuff that we've done Or whatever, but it's to the point now. Yeah, I used to be modest about it now, but I'd be like fuck that shit I'm bad as a motherfucker You talk about people to change hip-, that changed the course of culture.

Cash Money, y'all did that. You did that with your production man, Juvie Wayne, BG. Y'all did that with the Raps Turk. Like, you can't discredit that. Yeah. Like, I don't know if that's celebrated the way it should be. Yeah. I'm with you.

Right. You know what I'm saying? And I used to be, like I said, cool about it or whatever. But now it's like, I'm like, you know what? Fuck it. You know what I'm like? I mean disrespect. I am a bad motherfucker. Put me in them numbers. If you don't like, you know what? Fuck it. You know what? I'm like, I mean, disrespect. I am a bad motherfucker.

Put me in them numbers. If you don't, then you know what I'm saying? I ain't rocking with you. I'm like, give me my do. And to still be relevant, still, you know, be here. And it's even what we want to challenge anybody young to do. Like, you know, show me where you're going to be around 10 more years. Show me where you're going to do something.

They're going to drop it at a wedding reception and they still remember it. And they're going to say like, oh, that's the jam. Not just that. Show me when somebody remakes one of your songs. When your song's that good, when one of these cats 10 years later have that much respect for your song and love you that much to where they want to remake one of your songs. That's right.

You guys are being used as like CNN cultural references. Did you guys see that moment with Bacari? Yeah, we saw it. Yeah. When you saw that, it's like- Matter of fact, he's one of my hosts in my show when I get to South Carolina. Bacari? Yeah, he's going to host the show.

So y'all go get your tickets if you want to see him. You want to see Bacardi, get your tickets. Salute to Bacardi. Damn right. I recently saw you say that Megan Thee Stallion wins for best dance performance to back that ass up. Boy, see how they did that. I said it, I was giving credit, right?

Because she represents the whole hot boy, hot girl thing, right? So I was giving credit. I didn't know how it was going to be written, right? I didn't even know that part was going to be written. But I was just giving credit because the question was asked, who do I think represents right now back that ass up the most and dances the most to back?

So that's the only person I'm really seeing. It's like a lot of other people out there, but that's the only person I'm really seeing. That's why I said that. And then, you know, I gotta keep it Southern. You said something about Megan Eyre too, right? Yeah, so you saw when she was getting all the slack for twerking when she performed with Kamala.

Yeah. How y'all feel about that? Because I feel like we backed that ass up. You don't even feel like you're twerking. You having such a good time. You know where we from? Mine, yo. I was just about to tell you. My mama always... I was just about to hit you with that line. You bringing the party timers out on the stage,

all into politics now. I like to speak on me. I don't speak on other people. I just don't do it. They like you more, Carson, not us. That's where negativity come from. I got products and things like that that I want to sell, and I want everybody to support me,

so I'm definitely never going to say nothing negative about nobody. I just don't do it. It's on no platform. When y'all clear records. Not when I'm to myself. Yeah, you might hear some shit. You catch me off the juvie juice. I got juvie juice, I got cognac.

If I'm off that yak, that's when I'm really, you know what I'm saying? I'm that nigga then. When y'all got to clear the record, how do y'all make that decision? Like for example, when Abbott Elementary used the song, when you get the call and they're like, look, they want to use it for Back That Ass Up.

Yeah, yeah. Believe it or not, it's some shit that I've shot down. Like, you know what I'm saying? Where I'm just like, nah, you butchering that. Like, you know what I'm saying? And we even kind of both have said it, all money ain't good money. You know what I'm saying? And we even want to give

this new generation a shot at it, but we don't want you to kill it. And we've always wanted to be represented well. How do you monitor that, though? Anybody clear something for me, I gotta hear it. You know what I'm saying? I gotta say yes or no to it if it gets, you know,

however it works. I guess my question is like, what's like, so what's like comes in and it's like, no, this is trash. This isn't gonna do justice to what we've done. Well, the production is awful too. Some, you know, like it's a lot of times where some, I'm like, God damn, dude, you-

You just took the best part. And you tore it up. Like, you know what I'm saying? And I get it. Like, I'm not a hater or whatever. I don't know what's just being for real. I don't know what music is

right now. I really don't. You know what I'm saying? If me and my son is riding right now and he playing some new shit, I'll be like, you fucking alien. Please turn that shit off. So you ain't got dumb newbies in your playlist. I play more the same shit.

I play more. I still play old school shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And he'll even say, Dad, this is one of your beats. And I'm just like, that one slipped through the cracks. But then I'll find out it's some shit that somebody didn't clear. And I'm calling, you know, Goldstein them.

Hey, bro, they didn't clear the song. You know what I'm saying? So it's people that do that kind of shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? There's some cats out there that done butchered up my songs, but they were so unsuccessful with what they were doing, it wasn't even worth me wasting my time going after them. I'm like, damn, I'm going to chase a dollar.

So what happened to the imagery? What happened? Quinta reached out to y'all and said, this is going to be the scene? Yeah, like a lot of stuff, you know what I'm like, damn, I'm going to chase a dollar. So what happened to the imagery? What happened? Quinta reached out to y'all and said, this is going to be the scene? Yeah, like a lot of stuff, you know what I'm saying? Especially when it's something like that. You know, that's a great, that's a good show. You know what I'm saying? So when it's something like that, I'm like, yeah.

Like, I forget who it was. I know Michelle Obama had her podcast, and it was one of, I forget what the song was. It was Old Girl, but she did Back That Ass Up, and it was used in the beginning of her podcast. it was one of um i forget what the song was it was old girl but she she did back that ass up and it was used in the beginning of her podcast yeah you know what i'm saying it was like it's michelle obama how we gonna say you know what i'm saying and all of that actually still helps elevate it and especially when it's icons of our generation and people that that really matter that recognize these songs so we like yeah we want them placed in the right important place

juvie you had a phenomenal tiny desk to man thank you brother and all my brother together though many and almost didn't happen though we always laugh about it me and me and the guys from time we like one of the most funny shit ever, bro. We always laugh about it, me and the guys from Tiny. We laugh all the time about this shit because I really didn't know. You can't knock a brother for not knowing. So when they hit you, it was like, Ju, you want you to do a Tiny dance? You're like, what the fuck is a Tiny dance? Yeah, I just was like, well, we were sitting there.

My guys was telling me you should do a Tiny dance. And my daughter also. I'm like, what the fuck is a Tiny dance? I don't even know what the fuck y'all talking about. Like, dad, you really should do it. Then his idea was, nah, you should post that just like that. And they're going to come at you. So, you know, we kind of like asked for it to go like that.

But then when he started coming at me, I'm like, wait, hold up, bro. We got to have a solution to this shit. So he said, all right, the next 10,000 retweets, we'll do a show and we'll do a show at Tiny Desk. Then I find out they don't pay for flights and that shit together. I'm like, oh, damn. So I got to pay. Oh, shit. So now I'm like, well, fuck it then.

We're going to do it. So I pay for everybody to get up. I call a man. I'm like, man, I think I'm really going to need you to do this because how am I going to do Tiny Desk and sing Back That Ass Up live without him there? Absolutely. And sing any, really, he on all the hits, so how I'm gonna sing any of these songs while

I'm in prison? Right. So it worked out, man, my dude came down, and then I told Trombone Shorty about it, and Trombone said, man, look, I'll come down and play with you, too. I ran the same shit by John Baptiste, and he was the same way. He said, like, I fly down and do it with you. We'll just make it an all New Orleans set. And we bought some members of the Philharmonic down too from our city.

So it was just a great look, a New Orleans set. It was a good look. That's what made it so amazing, the instrumentation. That says a lot about you, Bandy, because clearly you were influenced by like, what do they call them in New Orleans? The Second Line. Second Line, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, on every corner you got a band. you band because clearly you were influenced by like what they call them in new orleans the um

yeah yeah yeah i mean on every corner you got a band you know in my high school a lot of the bands that's that's you know important people like even kermit ruffin or whatever even trombone shawty all of them went to the same all of us went to the same school so instead of really having a band we had like second line bands we We didn't have marching bands. And we didn't even have band teachers, you know. So we kind of learned by ear and just what feels good. And I'm glad that's the way I kind of do music because I think if I actually really would have had training, it would have sounded a whole lot different. And I think even with the way I do it, it goes across so much better because to me it's a feeling.

It ain't so much of, oh, you don't know how to read music. You don't, you know. And even to watch like Trombone Shorty, those dudes do, but they play with feeling. They play with feeling. Jambatee's too old. Yeah, they play with feeling. They are the best, man.

I'm talking about it. It ain't close. I mean, them dudes can play all the instruments. Manny being mine is dope because Manny play a lot of instruments. His damn self. Drums, keyboards, all that. A little bit of everything. All self-taught?

Yeah. Yeah. I know y'all got to go, man. You said something earlier, Juvie, about the gift and the curse of the internet. What are the gifts and the curse for y'all? Well, for me, my gift is I get an opportunity to use my platform and do things like I did the other day with LaRussell, right? Absolutely.

Oh, that was amazing. And the other gift is I get an opportunity to promote my product. So I got multiple products. I got my tour. I got the 25 years back that ass up tour on the road. And just let everybody know what I'm into. That's the good part. But the curse is when things that's going on, like what's going on with my bros. That's the good part. But the curse is when things that's going on,

like what's going on with my bros, that's the curse to me. I feel like when I don't like negativity and I feel like it's bad, I really don't like to see all this beef with each other too because at the end of the day, man, we all trying to do the same thing, feed our family. So I don't like to see that.

Even though I know hip-hop came from battling, I like to see that, but I don't like to see the beef. What about you, Manny? What's the gifts and curse? I mean, it's probably he's super, super close. I see the Internet as a tool to just promote what I'm doing and everything about what I'm doing. And the curse of it is the negativity.

And I don't think too many people know how to close out a negative comment or somebody saying something. If somebody followed you to talk about you, you already won. You know what I'm saying? You the winner. Like, it's like, why even answer somebody who you really seeked me out to tell me what you don't like about me? I'm like, you need a hug. You know, you need Jesus. You need a hug. So I think that is the negative spot and he hitting it dead on. Like, I just think a lot of people think now that that is the way. Like, that's the only way.

You know, real shit. I want real fans, real people that mess with me. I'd rather have a million real fans that mess with me than have four million people that, you know, these are all just people that talk shit all the time and don't really care. Yeah, don't like me

because you hate somebody that you see as my enemy. Don't like me because of that. You know what I mean? That's how I see it. Is it a curse, Manny, knowing that people say every black stud looks like you?

Yeah, it is. It is. But guess what? I can even laugh at that. You know what I'm saying? You heard me? Yo. You see how great I am, dude?

No, great. Y'all have great energy. That shit bounce right off my face. That shit don't mean a fucking thing to me. Turn the phone off. Yeah. I don't even know how kids get cyber bullied. You know what I'm saying?

I don't know how you don't know how to turn that shit off. You don't know how to turn this shit off? Turn that fucking shit off. You know what i'm saying i don't know how you don't know how to turn that shit off you don't know how to turn this shit off to turn that fucking shit off you know what i'm saying and and and real shit what i love about my parents or whatever i was taught a long time ago like dude you are greatness you are god's favorite you know what i'm saying so it ain't really nothing nobody could tell me my confidence is through through the roof. Like, you know what I'm saying? And I feel like anybody who say that, especially if you hide your page or some shit, you cowardly fucking in. And the internet as well.

Coward gangsters go to hang out. That's right. That's their slot, baby. Yeah. Listen, man, the icons living, Juvenile and Manny Fresh, 25th anniversary of Back That Ass Up. Make sure you check them out on the Back That Ass Up tour. And it's always a pleasure seeing y'all, brothers.

Man, a pleasure. Thank you, bro. Thank you for championing for us, too, bro. Absolutely. I mean, you go hard for us, and I'm proud of you and everything you do. Keep on fighting for the South. The fight goes on, baby. Don't let them take you.

Don't let the Marlins take you. That's right. It's Juvenile and Manny Fresh. It's The Breakfast Club. Wake that ass up. Early in. It's The Breakfast Club.