The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Marlon Wayans Talks Grief And Comedy, Being Too Tired For Sex, New Special + More

Episode Date: June 6, 2024

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Starting point is 00:03:04 We got a special guest in the building, Marlon Wayans. Welcome back, brother. What's happening? How y'all doing, people? How you feeling? I'm good. Where's Charlamagne? Charlamagne had a book signing. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:03:13 It was late. Couldn't make it back. Wow. So I don't have to hear his instigative mouth today. No. Okay, good. I'm with family. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:21 Yes. Anyway, nigga. Like we was saying. That's right. Gotta start with congratulations. Thank you. You have to tell me your son just graduated from college. Yeah. How did you get so many tickets for the whole Wayans families
Starting point is 00:03:36 to get? Because they only give you two tickets. And you had everybody there. USC did us dirty. I was like, I spent all this money. I probably spent a half million dollars sending my child to school there. And they gave us three tickets. And I was like, I spent all this money. I probably spent a half a million dollars sending my child to school there and they gave us three tickets. And I was like, do you know my family? Three tickets. Who is this?
Starting point is 00:03:52 We are the Wayanses. And they was like, that's all we have. So I was like, yeah, too late. Fuck that school. So LMU, I hit them up and they was like, we'll accommodate you. I said, you sure you want to do this? They said, sure. And they gave us a room. So it was like 45 wans is in the house and uh they gave us this nice suite and it was kind of far which mean we had to yell so my son was dope for i was like
Starting point is 00:04:14 but it was so many of y'all yeah it was a whole squad he heard us too i was like you ain't dumb you ain't dumb like a teacher said i knew it's gonna be somebody even though i did crack the night I had sex with your mama. What? I didn't. I just like to yell embarrassing things. I never actually, I never tried crack. It looks interesting, but it's not for me.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Never tried it. I just, you know, it's just something in that drug that make a lot of niggas want to suck dick. And I'm like, I don't know if that drug is for me. I agree. I agree and I'm like I don't know if that drug is for me I agree I agree so good grief is out um what what did all right so when you think of grief you never think of good so what what was your like how did you come up with good grief what did I mean I was always a Charlie Brown fan you know and I just and it just like, I felt like at this point in my life, at 50, like life, 47, life just started getting hard.
Starting point is 00:05:11 It's, you know, you go through things. If you live long enough, you're going to see some dark times. Ain't that right, Charlamagne? Dark times. He knows what I'm talking about, his skin. What it used to be. Anyway, what I'm saying, His skin What it used to be Anyway What I'm saying
Starting point is 00:05:27 He ain't here to defend this So I'ma give you Dunk here today Dunk here today Goes to Charlemagne The guy for not being here For this interview
Starting point is 00:05:34 And you know I love you brother But It's wrong for you To be missing flights You know better You know better Get your ass on the flight
Starting point is 00:05:42 And be here When Legends is in the building And my Photo Is right there Alright so I'ma split know better get your ass on the flight and be here when legends is in the building and my photo is right there all right so i'm a split donkey of the day with chalamet because he did put my photo on the wall but why you put me looking like lope dog and why my eyes bugged out like that i look like country rain here's the thing my whole thing here guys is um what's that talk about oh good grief good grief fine grief is good because i know you've been through a lot i wanted to gift people like something like i'm i think for me as as an artist i want to be bigger than just like jokes i need to
Starting point is 00:06:21 give them something that sticks and i think life experiences a little bit of lesson and a lot of bit of like God here and there people need that right now and I want to rescue people because depression is real and I was battling depression When I lost 57 58 people I love in three years and then I lost my parents. So I was just like Like I couldn't even say the word Like I couldn't even say a curse. Yeah, I couldn't even say the word. Like, I couldn't even say, can I curse? Yeah. I couldn't.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I miss my mama so much. I couldn't even say the word mother. I couldn't say motherfucker. I could. Every time I'd say, I'd start crying. Because that's my girl. I was born on her birthday. So I realized as I was going through it, in the middle of working on my mother's set,
Starting point is 00:07:05 my father passed. And I was like, wow. the middle of working on my mother's set, my father passed. And I was like, wow, let me keep working and getting through this. And I started finding light in their experience and the joy of laughter and what they taught me and all the jewels and the lessons and how grateful I was to be able to even have my parents for 47 to 50 years of my life. And so instead of just grieving where's misery, I'm going, no, no, no, no. You go through darkness to find something light. So it's all about your perspective. If you find jokes, you find laughter, it's healing. So I've learned to laugh at things that hurt me as soon as possible. And I think that's where I create from now.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And that's my best art. I'm telling you, like, I feel like these are my best years. When my parents left me, they left me with something. They left me with this confidence. Now I know I always had God, but now I got wings. I got my mom on my right,
Starting point is 00:07:56 I got my dad on my left, and now I'm lifting into this place where, oh, I see it. I see stand-up. I see, like, in movies. I do dramas. I used to have to reach for tears. I don't have to reach no more.
Starting point is 00:08:09 All I got through is thinking about my parents and how much I miss them. I cry like Daniel Kaluuya. Yeah. I have them get out tears on you. Last time you were here, I actually, you know, I think you got the call that it was bad because I remember when you came up, they were like, well, he actually, you know, I think you got the call that he was, it was bad because I remember
Starting point is 00:08:25 when you came up, they were like, well, he just got the call, so we don't know if he wants to continue with the interview and you still continue with the interview. So I was going to ask. I'm going to make my money, Envy. I'm going to make my money. How you just go from sad, but I'm going to make my money. I miss you, Dad, but I got to pay for your funeral. So, about this interview.
Starting point is 00:08:43 No, I had worse than that, so he got over that one the show must go on the audience as much as they understand i don't want to make them understand i'm a pro right so i got to call my dad died 15 minutes before i was going on stage and it was a small club it was flappers in la and i was just kind of working out, getting ready for a bigger show. And right then and there, I got the call. My dad died. And I had two shows.
Starting point is 00:09:12 So I was like, I cried in my car. I took a deep breath. I did what my dad did when he had hard days. I talked to God. And then I was like, all right, let's go do this. Because my dad wouldn't want me to cancel the show. He'd go, you better make that money, Jack. And then I was like, all right, let's go do this. Because my dad wouldn't want me to cancel the show. He'd go, you better make that money, Jack. And so I honor my parents.
Starting point is 00:09:29 I do the work. And then on stage, I let the audience know, thank y'all for letting me get through this. And broke down crying. And it's funny, man, when you allow yourself to be vulnerable on the stage, you don't really know the audience's love until you're in a bad situation. And then you feel their support because they come and they hold you up. And even if they don't do it physically, the fact that they appreciate you as an artist and that you feel their love. You don't feel their love sometimes when we're doing well.
Starting point is 00:10:01 It's when you're doing bad. And that night was only like 400 people. But thank you for everybody that held me up during that that that that night and it was a great night i got two standing ovations is it there and it wasn't because of the tears i didn't use the tears to get standing ovations i got standing ovations on the joke because then afterward i was like my dad is dead now is it therapy for you because you talk about it a lot in this special, right? And my son, who just turned 10 a couple days ago, right? He was very close to his grandmother. He lost his grandmother. So for a birthday, he was crying, right?
Starting point is 00:10:33 And he cries a lot when he thinks about her. Right. I'm not as sensitive as he is. So it gets to the point where I don't know what to say anymore. So last night, I was like, you're being selfish. And he's crying, right? He looks at me like, what? Because he wants people to hug. I said, you're being selfish. He goes, what he looks at me like what because you know he wants people i said you're being selfish he goes what do you mean i go you know
Starting point is 00:10:48 if grandma was here she would be in pain she would be hurt she had dementia i said right now she's in heaven looking down and she ain't in pain so you wanted to come back down here in pain so you just gave your son a guilt a guilt conscious guilty conscience he may never cry again. Jesus. But it worked. But you know why he loves her so much? Because people, parents, as they get older, right, they get nicer, right? I don't know if they're trying to work their way into heaven or what, but they get nicer. My mom and dad, like, your parents and your grandparents ain't going to be as nice to you as they are to your kids. You get the sweetest, sweetest version of them so she whooped your ass he didn't he didn't get no spankers he's like grandma was the best she gave
Starting point is 00:11:31 me candy you know what i'm saying but you know so but it's it's good to teach him laughter man let him watch this special well i would have but see i think you pulled out the ak-47 you're just shooting at everybody like oh you you watched it? Yeah. You're not scared somebody's going to punch you in the face? Like, I'm like, I'm mauling. Jesus. Here's the thing. I only talk about people that either I could beat up or I know I could run from.
Starting point is 00:11:56 I know Shaq can't catch me. Okay, Shaq can't catch you. Shaq can't catch me. He can't even catch Charles Barkley or Kenny the Smith. And you see his legs. You gave Shaq every disease. How you not be able to catch this? Yeah, you can't do that.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I'm like, yo, you put Kenny the Smith's legs on backwards. That's my boy. I'm just joking. You gave Shaq every disease. Every disease you gave to Shaq Shaq got a good sense of humor He gonna laugh Yeah no he does
Starting point is 00:12:28 Shaq know He don't know Nobody understand What he's saying But he's my guy Shaq is the first one What about magic Now that magic
Starting point is 00:12:37 Jesus Christ But I hope I can Outrun him I hope so Oh hold on Now I'm in trouble. But here's the thing. And I talk about magic, right?
Starting point is 00:12:48 Yeah. Yes. But what I didn't put in the special for timing is, and this is honestly, I say magic is a hero. I look at magic and I'm like, yo, because let me tell you something. The whole special, the theme of the special, life sometimes deals you a really bad hand. You don't always have pocket aces. Sometimes you got a two and a ten, and you sitting there and you got to play the rest of your hand the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And it's not about your cards. Magic has taught everybody. It's not about the cards you get dealt. It's about how you play your hand. That man's more successful now than he's ever been. I look at him like a hero. I'm really, he is magic.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Like I'm, for him to conquer that in front of our eyes, I think like that's a hero story. Now, of course I got these jokes, but the point is he's a hero. Bro, you,
Starting point is 00:13:40 you said he shouldn't be here. You said he shouldn't be here. He should be dead. I didn't say here. You said he shouldn't be here. He should be dead. I didn't say that. I said. Someone else. Without telling the joke, but you said he shouldn't be here.
Starting point is 00:13:51 I didn't say that like that. Right, yeah. It wasn't said like that. I think you misinterpreted my words like that. I love him. Okay, I do. I love him. But these jokes, man.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I think everybody needs to learn to laugh again. Even at dark stuff, we need to be rescued. They're not doing comedies. People ain't doing real jokes no more. Everybody trying to just do this happy fodder. Fuck that. I'm here for these jokes. And if you got a problem, then hey, man, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Some people are going to be offended by your jokes. But if I tell a joke and a crowd full of 1,000 people and 999 people laugh, that's a damn good joke. And that one person walk out, that's a sensitive motherfucker. Now, if I tell a joke and 999 people walk out and one person laughing, you got to change that joke. So for me, I heard a lot of laughs so i'm i'm gonna do them jokes and if somebody's sensitive then and i get canceled great cancel means you wasn't my fan to begin with cancel means you don't understand my point of view cancel mean get your sensitive ass the fuck away from me because i don't want to tell my jokes to your ass anyway yeah i'm trying
Starting point is 00:15:01 to bring back that old school new york stand on the block, stand on the street corner, talk shit about each other and laugh it through. That's how we came up. We talk shit about each other since when we can't talk shit about each other. Like, oh, you're fat shaming. Well, bitch, lose weight. Period. You shame shaming. And look at our society.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Look how bad things have gotten because we ain't keeping it real no more because we ain't saying what's on our mind because everybody's sensitive this next generation is gonna be a bunch of pussies yeah i'm i'm not raising my children like that i'm raising them with sense of humor because life is gonna get dark and if you don't know how to laugh at inappropriate things even your childhood things that hurt you the most you gotta learn to laugh about and if you don't then you got to learn to laugh about. And if you don't, then you're going to have a really long, tough, hard life. But you know why it's like that a little bit too, right?
Starting point is 00:15:53 Like you look at, and I'll bring in the Kendrick and Drake beef, right? Where they going back and forth, and they going, they just throwing all types of shots. I thought that was my favorite time in hip hop, boy. That was like, yo, they fighting this up the block the block right that was like we was back in the projects yo lakisha and feifei about to fight again she got the vaseline yeah and they fight and then they become friends again but but the problem is you got a corporation that'll be like oh he said he's a pedophile we have to we we can't endorse him anymore but like you said it's jokes and that's We can't endorse him anymore. But like you said, it's jokes.
Starting point is 00:16:25 And that's how these corporations take it. They don't take them as funny no more. Well, that's when they were just going at each other hard. It was a lot like, you going there? You're a pedophile? That's not your baby? And you're going to talk to me about magic? Everything is jokes.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Everything is jokes. You know, this whole beef between them. They'll get over it. And corporations, yeah, it's corporations. But here's the thing. I ain't got no brands slapped on this NASCAR. I'm blank. I don't have association with brands and things like that.
Starting point is 00:17:00 I have association with people with my brand that want to be in business with me from my point of view that I've developed over a 52-year lifetime and over a 34-year span in this industry. I've done sketch. I've done sitcom. I've written, produced, starred in multiple movies and franchises, and I have a point of view now if you want to be associated with me it's because you know I can sell your product with my point of view the way you cannot I'm different so I'm not afraid of people um like getting offended I'm not afraid of brands I'm actually one of those dudes that's like yo that's just's just Marlon. I'm grandfathered in, like Chappelle.
Starting point is 00:17:45 I'm grandfathered in. I've been doing it too long. Scary movie. White chicks. Don't be a menace. In Living Color, we've done some of the most craziest shit, and our thing has never been to be divisive. The Wayanses have always done humor that's been inclusive,
Starting point is 00:18:03 and everybody could laugh. Every now and again people get sensitive but I think the real laughter changes the world, changes the mood. I'm trying to bring that spirit back and I'm never gonna back down like that. I'm not. I'm gonna say these jokes and people that know me and love
Starting point is 00:18:18 me understand that. And if you got a problem man, that's cool too. I ain't gonna shake your hand nigga but I said what I had to say. And especially you do say that you're not in therapy nigga, but I said what I had to say. And especially, you do say that you're not in therapy. Is that a joke? I am in therapy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:28 I do therapy sometimes two times a week depending on what bitch get on my nerves. The thing is, you ever spend your whole therapy session talking about somebody? Everything be good in your life, like this bitch.
Starting point is 00:18:42 You know what she did? No, I do. I i check myself some weeks it's like i have a great session it'd be like be like 35 minutes long he's like yeah man we we ain't got to talk next week and that's what i got but some when i was hurting hurting yeah i'd have two therapy sessions a week Sometimes with two therapists Shout out to Delaina Shout out to What's his name? Rodney Dr. Collins
Starting point is 00:19:10 And I think black people People period Not just black Latinos I'm black Why you look Dominican to me? I swear to God You better do your 23 and me
Starting point is 00:19:20 I play some salsa music I bet your ass that. I'm black. 100 percent. You got to do your 23 and me. Do your 23 and me. It's all right. I'm telling you,
Starting point is 00:19:40 I'm black. You look like my nephew, Damien, that nigga Dominican. I'm telling you, Dominican, your beard is shaped the same. I'm serious. When look like my nephew Damien, that nigga Dominican. I'm telling you, Dominican, y'all beard is shaped the same. I'm serious.
Starting point is 00:19:48 When you get older, you're going to be talking like this. Do you like bacalao? Have you ever eaten bacalao? No. I don't even know what bacalao is. Try bacalao. What's bacalao? It's the stinkest fish.
Starting point is 00:20:04 It's like the stinkest fish you get ever. It smells like stripper pole. It smells like stripper pole. It is the nastiest fish. And if you eat that and you go, oh, this is good, you're Dominican. But no, I want everybody to get back to laughing. Yeah. We forgot.
Starting point is 00:20:21 They're not. Social media has stripped us of our own personal identities. We're so busy trying to compete and be everybody else that when I understand that somebody's programming us, we have no more individualism. We have no more point of view. And like we got to have beefs because we don't agree a lot. Like everybody can't think the same. We live in America. In America, you are allowed to think different. That's the beauty of our country. And so they're stripping us of that.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Now everybody, you can't say that. You can't say this. You can say whatever the fuck you want. If you got real friends, they're going to disagree. But guess what? If we laugh at something, what we found was something in common. Laughter is bonding. And if you want to be depressed, look, there's no more comedies on TV, barely.
Starting point is 00:21:12 There's no more comedies in movies. There's something happening to our society because people think they're sensitive. Corporations think people are sensitive, so they're not letting comedians do what they do and it's like yo everybody move the fuck out the way let me do these jokes not everybody can tell these jokes now I have 35 years in the lab I'm a joke scientist at this point
Starting point is 00:21:34 I know what two parts of this and one part of that or blow up in your face I know how to tell these jokes I've been doing it so long now I know my next three specials that's how like i drop in this one june 4th i filmed it at the apollo uh 11 11 the next week i went out and did a brand new hour based off of and i knew what it was and i know like if i shot skittles tomorrow i know my
Starting point is 00:22:03 next hour after that and the next hour after that that's how good i'm getting on this stage i'm i've done it too long so i know how to tell jokes and that's why i tell young comedians stay on the road stay on the road because one day when you're talking to the networks and you talk to the studios you got to be the scientists in the room when they go you can't say that sure i could i did this joke uh at this place come to come to this show i'm doing come watch how this show how this works and then they go you can't say that and then you have to go Well, how about if I said it like this and that's how you tell your joke you have to it's not about don't tell me I can't say it tell me how I can say it and
Starting point is 00:22:39 And I'm just here right now to bring these jokes I'm bringing this laughter. People need to laugh. And they need to laugh at real shit and dark shit and things that hurt. And nobody has, because, I mean, in the specials you've done before, I mean, you didn't win at so many people from Shaq to Magic Johnson, Flavor Flav. And I love these guys. Will Smith.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Nobody has, out of all the people that you have won at in the last couple of years, nobody has stepped up to you or called you, checked you, chin-checked you, chest-checked you, nothing? And you you, chin checked you, chest checked you, nothing? And you run into all these people all the time. And they haven't said nothing. I might slip through the back. He just said he don't talk about nobody that can't be you. But see, that's what I knew that I was on to something, right?
Starting point is 00:23:18 Like when I did God Loves Me, I did a whole special about Will and Jada. Yeah. Will did a whole press tour on Bad Boys 4. Jada did a whole special about Will and Jada. Yeah. Will did a whole press tour on Bad Boys 4. Jada did a whole press tour on her book. They talked about everything else. Nobody mentioned Marlon's
Starting point is 00:23:34 special. Why? Because they know I did it with love. Will and Jada know me. And Chris Rock know me. They know I'm not trying to bury body. I don't have ill intentions. I'm just telling funny truths. You want me to lie? I'm going to tell you what happened. And it's not even about them. Every special
Starting point is 00:23:49 I'm doing right now is about me. You just so happen to be in my journey. And here's what happened. But I don't get that because they know I do it with love. I'm not doing it to break them down. I'm not doing it to hurt their business. I'm not doing it. This is just what I see.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Have you spoke to them at all, or have you ever seen them? No, but I don't think Will has a problem with me. Is he here? Are you trying to get me to jump? I'm just saying. Martin is in New York. Martin going to bite me on my leg. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:24:18 I just did. I can't say. But I did Bel Air after I did the special. Yeah, and if Will had a problem, he would have did me like he did on Viv. I would have been. You don't think they would have had some light-skinned nigga in my place? You out your goddamn mind. Real quick.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Jesse Williams would have been took my role. Now, what about family members, right? Because in the special, you said your mom raised five comedy legends and a crackhead well that's for the audience to figure out which one is the crackhead damn it may be me for all you know wait i sweat it probably it probably is no but see, that's the thing. My brother raised me to be an equal opportunity offender. That means everybody gets it, including myself. I'm not afraid to throw myself under the bus. I'm not afraid to say that I'm a lesser man.
Starting point is 00:25:18 My next special, it's all, I throw myself under a bus. It's crazy, but it's real, and it's funny, and you realize that, no, I'm not here to just hurt people's feelings. That's punching down. I'm doing punch lines, and sometimes you might hit a person or two. These are punch lines, and somebody's going to be affected by it, but I got to swing. It's my job.
Starting point is 00:25:41 It's like me watching a fight and asking a boxer not to throw punches. There's a fire, and you're asking a boxer not to throw punches. There's a fire and you're asking firemen not to go in that building. I gotta go in that burning building. As a comedian, I gotta go in there. Why? Because I'm saving lives. There's a laugh in there. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired?
Starting point is 00:26:00 Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel.
Starting point is 00:26:17 I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I create my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. The Waikana tribe in my country, my forefathers did that themselves. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my god. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help!
Starting point is 00:26:42 We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going.
Starting point is 00:27:12 That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, It was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small,
Starting point is 00:28:33 determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, I forgive myself. It's okay. Like, grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, y'all?
Starting point is 00:29:03 This is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Nimminy here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Hola mi gente, it's Honey German and I'm bringing you Gracias, Come Again. The podcast where we dive deep into the world of Latin culture, musica, peliculas, and entertainment with some of the biggest names in the game. If you love hearing real conversations with your favorite Latin celebrities, artists, and culture shifters, this is the podcast for you. We're talking real conversations with our Latin stars, from actors and artists to musicians and creators, sharing their stories, struggles, and successes. You know it's going to be filled with chisme laughs and all the vibes that you love. Each week, we'll explore everything from music and pop culture to deeper topics like identity, community, and breaking down barriers in all sorts of industries. Don't miss out on the fun, el té caliente, and life stories. Join me for Gracias Come Again, a podcast by Honey German,
Starting point is 00:31:13 where we get into todo lo actual y viral. Listen to Gracias Come Again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. That people need, and I'm going to go get that. And if I got to burn up in the process, hey, that's it. If I get it canceled, great. But I got to do my purpose, and my purpose is to go get them jokes. And sometimes the jokes are going to be on me.
Starting point is 00:31:37 But if y'all sensitive, then I ain't asking them to watch my special. Nobody have to tune in. But my special is on Amazon Prime right now. June 4th, just dropped. Special number four, well,
Starting point is 00:31:49 four and a half because I did Headliners too. But four, I just gave four. And it's on Amazon Prime and I think it's my best work
Starting point is 00:31:56 and I just think the more you do it, the better you get. The more I release material, because once you do it, you can't, this ain't hip hop you can't do the same
Starting point is 00:32:07 jokes you gotta do new shit so every time I release a special it makes me dig deeper so that's why every
Starting point is 00:32:14 I told my brothers about 10 years ago I said I wanna drop a special every 2 years and Damon said nigga they gonna be terrible why would you be ass like that
Starting point is 00:32:24 Keenan was like no you watching that bullshit those are regulars Sean was like you stupid you stupid and we was in Mykonos I remember we was in Mykonos and I was like I see something and I think that's what I want to do I know my skill set I know I started stand-up late I know my skill set as I know I started stand-up late. I know my skill set as an actor. I know how to remember 90 pages of a script. I know how to rehearse for a sitcom, and in three days I have to learn an entire script and put it on its feet. I think I can do this where I can write a special
Starting point is 00:32:57 and perform a special and get it done in five months, six months, and it'll be dope because I know story and I know character and I know my voice now. And so they were like, you crazy. I said, I'm gonna do it. And I remember I was mad and I was sitting in the SUV and my brothers was like, you're crazy. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:33:16 and Damon said, you know what, ugly? That's his mean nickname for me. You know what, ugly? If you see something, then you do you. That's all. nickname for me. You know what, ugly? If you see something, then you do you. That's all. Do you, nigga. Show me.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Show me. And I was like, all right, cool. That was the nicest thing Damon ever said. And I appreciate it. No, but I appreciate it. It's a nice thing he ever said. And I appreciate him for that because it was like, yeah, we all do things our own way. And even though I came up in this great family with this legacy, we all have our own points of view.
Starting point is 00:33:51 We all have our own divine timing. We all have our own way of doing things. And you just get to a point where you just respect each other and go, all right, if you see it, then show me. And I'm showing, like like this is my fifth special, fourth special in eight years. Yeah. Now Charlamagne would say. You talking about Donk here today?
Starting point is 00:34:10 Yes, sir. What did Donk say? He would be like, but are you dealing with that grief? You know, because your parents just passed away. No, but you got to put the lisp on it. You got to put the lisp on it. And everything is good because they're doing it, but are you dealing with the grief the right way
Starting point is 00:34:25 have you dealt with the grief you can't defend yourself that was great thank you yeah I'm dealing with the grief two therapy sessions a week you know and you know crying when I have to and you know I recently
Starting point is 00:34:44 did a movie, um, a Jordan Peele movie that comes out. It's called him. It's coming out. I can't talk about it right now. Well, Jordan Peele will kill me like he does people in horror movies.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Um, but I can't talk about it, but it's a great movie. And Justin tipping the directors. Amazing. Tyreek with his kills. It crew was insane. It looks beautiful.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Everything about this movie is like, and I'm so blessed as an artist to have this platform that is my therapy, whether it's telling jokes on a stage or a lot of times as a comedian, you take the things that hurt you and you throw them inside a safe and you don't cry you go What's funny about this and you hold on to that and you go on stage you tell these jokes when I go do dramas like doing bel-air and doing Him bro when I go in there and I open that safe And I get to release all that pain. Now, my performances, man, it's coming.
Starting point is 00:35:46 It's crazy. It's coming. It's coming because it's multifaceted, and it has depth. Life pain has given me depth, and God has given me this platform. Besides doing the work in therapy, because mental health is important, people, like go to your therapy, prayer, knowing God. Like literally, when I'm really hurt and I'm really lost, my dad told me something before he passed. My dad was a Jehovah's Witness.
Starting point is 00:36:08 My dad always taught us God. My father was like, if you ever miss me or you ever have a question, I want you to know. I want you to look in that book. You ever miss me, open up your Bible. I'm right there. Any question you ever have, go ask God. If you know my father, you will know your father. So whenever I'm lost, I open up that book and I know, and God is right there.
Starting point is 00:36:32 And if you reach for him, he finds you and he takes care of you. I'm more spiritual now. I pray more now than I ever prayed before. And it's not because I'm trying to get in heaven. I'm just so grateful that I'm still here with all my facilities because after 60 people, I should have broke down. I should have been on the freeway, ass naked, with a gun in my hand, with oil all over my body,
Starting point is 00:36:56 sliding on cars. Why the oil all over your body? Because that's the image of me going crazy. Oh, okay. This oily ass. Slide on your window. My of me going crazy this oily ass and slide on your window but that and but my point man my mother always said because she wasn't your windows my mother was like yeah yeah it's in the bible but god is in every book and whenever you want to find me you open any book and I'm there and that's my mother like
Starting point is 00:37:27 now I can't even read Green Eggs and Ham I'll be like spelled backwards even in the special I think that is I don't want to give it away but it's clever how you because your dad is Joel was you know he was Joel was witnessing he didn't celebrate any, you know, holidays or birthdays or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:37:49 But I thought it was really clever how you had the joke, you set it up on Father's Day. How y'all all embraced him and gave, and that made him shed a tear. And then your mom, like, I don't want to give it away, but that was so clever. It's learning to stitch, right? It's learning. As you do it, you get better. As you drop specials and you get to look at your work, watch your tape and go, I should have did this then.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Every time you do one, you get better. And the magic starts happening. And you know the elements that you need now i'm sparking the writer in me because i don't like i don't even write my jokes down no more i don't need to rehearse them i think about it and i go all right i'm gonna go do that when i did the uh god god loves me i i seen will hit um chris and i was like i'm gonna go talk about it and I went on stage and I did five minutes in Oxnard and after that
Starting point is 00:38:48 I did another five minutes and I had six shows that weekend and by the time I left Oxnard I had 20 minutes of material and I was like yo within a month I had a whole hour and a half and I was like yo because I just kept doing it on stage and it's like
Starting point is 00:39:04 Jay Z getting in the booth I don't need to write it down I know kept doing it on stage and it's like Jay-Z getting in the booth. I don't need to write it down. I know what I'm doing. I know it's in my head. Now, I hope I don't get debentured because that'd be messed up now. I lost all my jokes. And I'm not going to apologize to anybody who I hit.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Everybody knows I love them. And everybody knows I grew up in Hollywood around all these people and they know I love them. And I'm not doing it to break them down i'm doing it to build everybody up and to get these laughs and everybody that i ever make fun of my my flattery mockery is the greatest form of flattery if i ever crack a joke about you i mention it's because there's something i like about you yeah or there's something i really hate and i need to say it so I can like you. I gotta get it out.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Now, when did you realize you were getting old? And I'll tell you when I realized you were getting old. I'm sorry, nigga, I never realized I'm getting old.
Starting point is 00:39:53 This news to me, what's going on? I look young as fuck. When you did an interview. Look how young my face is. Go ahead, what happened? You did an interview
Starting point is 00:40:00 and you said, you're done with wild, crazy sex. Oh, yeah. I was like, Marlon is old. He's at the point right now,
Starting point is 00:40:04 he's like, he's getting old. I'm done. Was that the point? What was that point right there did you get a hamstring pulled no i i got a bulging disc and i was just like i ain't about this circus love i ain't Why I gotta do all that And hold you up Get your big ass No no no Let's just sit down Let me lay on the top of you
Starting point is 00:40:32 Let me bust this nut And I'm going to sleep And roll over I wanna I don't I don't I'm serious I'm a guy to the point
Starting point is 00:40:39 In my life I don't wanna I literally I really wanna Netflix And chill Like nigga no I don't wanna fuck Now I'm, I really want to Netflix and chill. Like, nigga, no, I don't want to fuck. Now, I'm not calling you over for that. I want to watch the movie.
Starting point is 00:40:50 I don't want you to touch my penis. I just want to sleep. Let's talk about the movie until I go to sleep. But I don't want to do all that. Keep me company. Yeah. I don't need to. I did it.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I did it. I could do that like once a month Have a great session But not every night Just Come on I got My blood and my body Got other things to do
Starting point is 00:41:11 Than to make my dick hard It just does I'm sorry And that's okay I'm at the Look I'm at the point Where I want to cuddle Look
Starting point is 00:41:19 It is I'm sorry Jess is like Look at these old niggas But it is You know You old when you like I like her on top
Starting point is 00:41:27 way more than me on top you know what you like here how about this right here you go I'ma lay here I'ma keep the wood right cause I gotta think about keeping this wood right
Starting point is 00:41:36 right you rock out you nut alright cool boom so did I ah that's it
Starting point is 00:41:41 there ain't nothing wrong with that Some people don't know When to tap out You gonna keep looking For young Listen You gonna get to a point Where you gonna be like
Starting point is 00:41:50 I don't want no young nigga Fucking on me I believe you I want stretching me all out To be damn I just want a little quick thing Crack my nut Smoke my Newport
Starting point is 00:42:00 And go to bed Now it is Pride Month Yes And I know you're doing a special on your daughter yes that recently came on my son transitioning oh yeah yep yep yep yeah i'm still confused that myself i'll be like so what but a son how is that in the house because you play too much yes oh they know what it is you play too much they know what it is they know they know what it is you never take it seriously i can tell they be like i'm transitioning and i could just you got too many jokes to be serious they know what it is here's the thing just like with everybody else my
Starting point is 00:42:35 sense of humor everybody knows i come from a good place i'm not trying to bash hurt i'm not trying to exploit i'm not trying to sell tickets. I'm not trying to exploit. I'm not trying to sell tickets because of drama. I'm love. Have you ever known me to being beef with people? I don't, I don't do all that. I don't, I don't do,
Starting point is 00:42:53 I'm, I'm love. My wired for love. No matter what the situation, I can talk to people. I have beef with Charlemagne. That one time you tried to get me on Twitter and I got your ass, but we'll talk about that another day.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Donkey. No, but i come with i come with love my child they've been a part of their dad's love they know my sacrifice they know how hard i work they know that i would do anything for them there's nothing they ever need for and they just trust me and they know my dad loves me and what's most important is i support them now i had a hard week you know when this was happening i had one hard week of which i talk about and that's the next special skittles that will be out next year but right now check out my special number four good good grief on Amazon Prime only. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Did you go to him and ever say like, all right, you know you're going to my next special, right? No, no, no, no. They know anything you do, I got to first write a refusal of your life. You got to first deal with me. I got to pay these bills. You like free college?
Starting point is 00:44:05 Daddy got to pay these bills somehow. USC ain't cheap. Even though they gave me three damn tickets. Shout out LMU. My point is. And why you only gave me two tickets?
Starting point is 00:44:15 Wow. Two. Two. Wow. Two. I would have talked about them on this radio show so fast. Pay for this.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Two. Wow. Two. But it's okay. It's all right. I learned, just have an after party afterward and invite everybody
Starting point is 00:44:30 and celebrate. But... All he's doing, it's stupid anyway. It'd be not a Wayne's, though. Yeah, but listen, it's stupid. If you go to a graduate,
Starting point is 00:44:37 he is. He is. You just don't know. He may be. I think he's Dominican and my nephew's Dominican. He probably related to my nephew. You, him, and Tigger are a Dominican.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Tigger. They're all the same. Same nose. They all got the same daddy. All right. Now, a diploma is stupid. We go there, drag all our family to watch our kids grab some empty people. It could be this.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I don't even know what this is. This is what they're getting. This is sucker. that's what they should open it up you paid a half a million dollars for nothing you sucker and so
Starting point is 00:45:11 I don't care about all them tickets I care about the celebration the celebration of life and that's what Good Grief is about the celebration of life it's on Amazon Prime
Starting point is 00:45:19 and I had vitamins that's why I'm sweating God you know you sweat every time you're up here. Well, normally I'm nervous because this one
Starting point is 00:45:27 be putting me in a hot seat asking all kind of uncomfortable questions. All the time. How about I start asking you uncomfortable things, Charlemagne? So Charlemagne
Starting point is 00:45:34 would be like this. One more question. Oh, damn. Yeah, right. So, you know, there's so many in your family that are, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:41 comedy legends. Comedy legends. Have you ever thought about going on tour and do like a whole tour? Like, you know, all you guys together, like, you know comedy legends have you ever thought about going on tors and and do like a whole tour flight you know all you guys together like you know so i won't come up here but anybody else is going for and like it could be like a whole big thing make a lot of money and you know it could be put on netflix though you ever thought about that man he roasted you that's funny Sean and me not being here don't get a day
Starting point is 00:46:05 but yeah one day I would love to do me, Sean and Keenan actually did a tour we did a small run and we did about maybe 20 cities and it was
Starting point is 00:46:17 the four of us I would open do 20 minutes then Sean would come on do 20 Keenan would come on and do 20 and then Damon would close
Starting point is 00:46:24 with like 25 to 30. And then afterward, we all go on the stage and let the audience ask us questions. And we got five standing ovations every show because I was like, I'm going to go out there and light this up. I got to start the show off, and I would get a standing ovation in my first 20,
Starting point is 00:46:43 and then Sean would be like, okay, stupid, I'll show you. And And I would get a stand ovation in my first 20. And then Sean would be like, okay, stupid. I'll show you. And then Sean would get his stand ovation. And then Keenan would be like, okay, watch what I do. And then Keenan would get his stand ovation. And then Evil Damon, yeah, well, I'm going to add 10 minutes to this. And I'm going to make the audience feel like, you niggas bomb. And then he would do his and get his stand ovation.
Starting point is 00:47:01 And then we went out and did, we should have taped this. We should have recorded this because it was a classic moment. And then my brothers was like, Damon was like, I don't like splitting all this money. I feel like earth, wind, and fire. I make more than all this shit.
Starting point is 00:47:19 I'm out. And Damon left. And then Kanan was like, that's too much traveling for me. I'm going to go get my deck somewhere and watch netflix um and um and then sean it was just me and sean and we was just like well you know white chicks too boom that's what we're gonna work on yeah we're gonna definitely now now you know everything the dust is settling now we're looking and we're going all right it's not like everybody's like now it's time that we're gonna form voltron and get this together
Starting point is 00:47:50 y'all about to see that because the world i realized that the world has slowed down comedy has slowed down and the world needs our point of view to be injected back into so we can learn to party learn to live learn to laugh again at inappropriate things nothing like the 90s 90s we had living color we had martin we had wayans brothers we had fresh prince everybody was making fun of everything and we was having a lot of fucking fun and we're gonna bring that back yeah absolutely well one more question i'm sorry hold up are we getting another sextuplets you're trying to me. That was so much work, girl. I know.
Starting point is 00:48:26 All your movies are so much work. But this one, I had to split that. I did seven different characters. I had to split that check with seven different people. If you take what I made and you times that seven hours of makeup, and then I worked 19 hours after, 14 hours after that, that left me with two hours sleep. I made $1.50 an hour on that movie.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Between seven characters, I just wanted to do black man. It's just me as a black man. I ain't got to be in no makeup. I ain't got to put on no heels. But it was good as hell. I ain't got no prosthetics. I know, but I did that to reel you in. Now I want to do easy shit.
Starting point is 00:48:58 All right. You know what I mean? I'm old. I want to Netflix and chill. Okay. I don't even want to do doggy style no more. I'm an old nigga. I want to be on my do doggy style no more. I'm an old nigga. I want to be on my knees and she on her knees.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Then my knees start hurting. And when I get up, you hear pop, pop, pop, and it's gunshots. That's it. You know what I'm saying? Like, let's just, you know what I mean? I got you. Maybe one day. Talk to Netflix.
Starting point is 00:49:17 I'm down. And if I don't, I'll have you in it just because you came with me. Yeah, I love it. I'll have you play one of her girlfriends. Please. You can play Dawn's girlfriend. Thank you. Hello Yeah, I love it. I'll have you play one of her girlfriends. Please. You can play Dawn's girlfriend. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Hello. Because I love Dawn. Y'all have to leave if I like that, but I love her. Or you can play Jasper's sister. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Good grief. You can check it out now on Amazon Prime. We appreciate you for always coming up here, man. Thank you so much. Thank you. Follow me on Instagram
Starting point is 00:49:43 at Marlon Wayans and Twitter at Marlon Wayans or X, whatever you call it. TikTok Marlon Wayans. And thank y'all for always having me up here. I appreciate you guys. And give this shout out to Donkey of the Day, Charlemagne, who didn't show up for his brother's appearance.
Starting point is 00:50:00 That's messed up. It's Marlon Wayans. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up. In. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max.
Starting point is 00:50:15 You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted
Starting point is 00:50:53 the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh, my God. What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. Get out! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:51:17 or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace for yourself.
Starting point is 00:51:35 You're trying your best, and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, my undeadly darlings. It's Teresa, your resident ghost host. And do I have a treat for you.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Haunting is crawling out from the shadows and it's going to be devilishly good. We've got chills, thrills, and stories that'll make you wish the lights stayed on. So join me, won't you? Let's dive into the eerie unknown together. Sleep tight, if you can. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Marie. And I'm Sydney. And we're mess. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. third divorce. Living. Girl's trip to Miami. Mess. Breaking up with your girlfriend while on
Starting point is 00:52:46 Instagram Live. Living. It's kind of mess. Yeah. Well, you get it. Got it? Live, love, mess. Listen to Mess with Sydney Washington and Marie Faustin on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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