The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Marlon Wayans Talks 'Him,' Career & Spiritual Journey, Kai Cenat, 'Scary Movie 6' + More

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

Today on The Breakfast, Marlon Wayans Talks 'Him,' Career & Spiritual Journey, Kai Cenat, 'Scary Movie 6'. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Jess Hilarious. Sholomey and the guy. We are the breakfast club. Launlerosa is here as well. And we got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. Ladies and gentlemen, Marlon Wayne.

What's happening? Welcome back. What's happening? Always home. Always home. How do you feel, man? I feel great. You know, I love that.

Y'all got the two ladies here. Y'all need the balance. Thank God. God, one wasn't enough. I felt bad for you. I felt bad for you. I felt bad for her. Oh, my God.

Too much toxic masculinity going on. Balls on the table at all time. That's right. Well, listen, this is a big week for you. Yeah. Him comes out on Friday. Yes, sir. Jordan Pill, Monkey, Paul, production.

Yes, sir. What made you want to do a dark psychological sports? A horror movie. He called, and I said, yes. You say no to Jordan Peel? There's certain people you don't say no to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pitch me, no, I'm good.

Yeah, it's Jordan Peele. I'm good. I'm going to do some. I'm going to go do a little man, too. It's Jordan Field. I mean, here's the thing. It was great as one of those roles I didn't have to audition for. They wanted me.

They was just like, you're the guy. I'm in director, Justin Tipping. Two visionaries call you. You pick up the phone and you go, all right, I bet. I'm going to bring my A game and I think I put my best performance in the best movie. How does that feel when somebody sees something in you that you may not see in yourself? I feel like an old slave. Like, I know you ain't talking about me.

Are you sure you ain't talking about Sean? Damien? What you need me to do, sir? I couldn't believe it. But it feels good, you know, because I'm so busy working. that I don't realize how much work I've done. I'm so, I got my head down. Y'all know me.

I'll just be on the grind, grind, grind, grind. I don't really know the effect that I've had, right? Until you have these moments in your life where you look up and you go, wait, I've been doing this for 35 years. And I got this resume. And it's crazy because it's like you're one of one. I don't know anybody that has a skill level you got at this point. There's probably three or four guys that can do this.

And either they're dead, crazy, or they ain't doing it no more. And I was just like, boom. But I think about it, and they go, you get to a point, you're like, I don't want to audition. If y'all don't know my work by now, I have played a junkie in Requiem. I have played seven people in sex tuplets. I played a little person, a white woman. I've done it all.

A football player, a basketball player, I've done it all. What do you do with the guy that can do everything? Let them do everything. So these are my years where I just do. everything. How do you shut down, though? Because like you said, you do everything. You do a special I feel like every other month. You're always on the road. You always do movies. So how do you shut down and be like, I'm going to put the effort to do in this movie? Well, you do specials when you are special. God just made me special. No, because I work so much. So it's not like, I don't need

20 years to craft a stand-up special, right? Because this is what I do. Check my schedule. I'm on the road every weekend. Check malo-wayans.com. I am on the road every weekend. I'm about do scary movie. Guess what? Scary movie says, I'm on the road every weekend because I'm preparing for something great. So I just do the work. So specials to me, I'm ready to film my next one and I already know my next two after that. Because I write scripts. I got a writer in my head at all times. It's just like, you know, pitching me jokes, that and God. And so I'm always working. And so I don't like to hold on the material. I think you let it go. It's like a blank canvas. I just want to paint, man. Just give me the, I just want to paint. I just love it. I love

what I do, man. I was talking about you last week to somebody in the room said I saw Marlon Williams on Kai said not scream and he was he was he was almost as funny no what you say that's not first of all he didn't even he was shocked he was shocked he was about to lie why is it always hot in here you say you lay it though this is crazy she said I was shocked he was funnier than Kyle what I said wow not you lied What did you say that? We have a clip. I said, you got mad at me because I said he was better than Kai.

It was his dream because people come on that stream and don't know how to like interact with the chat and even if they're great at what they do, you had, you were like, 35 years of experience. And we said, you've been 30 years of experience too. And I get what you're saying. Being in a streamer space is different than what he does. So even though you're great at what you do, I don't know if you've seen other streams prior to you, they're great talent. But they don't be knowing how to like, they'd be so boss in the songs.

You ate that up. There's a 15-year-old boy that lives inside of me that I will never grow up. If you spent the night at my house and I'm 53 years old and you got your mouth wide open, I'm going to put some garbage in your mouth. You're going to wake up with makeup on your face. I am always, I'm a fart in your mouth. I'm always my son and his kids and his friends be like, Dad, you got a chip. Can you stop farting on my friend?

You need some balance, man. You need two women. No, but, and I think the key to that show, and even though all the stream was, was like, bro, like you, you, you, you, you ain't just movie funny. You ain't just TV funny. Like, you funny, funny. I was like, bro, I do this. This is what I do. I love to do this. And they were all surprised, but I was like, they, like, how you get like that? I was like, I live on a stage. I've been writing movies since I was 19. I went to performing on a tight school. I've been. snapping, that's what I do. I grew up in the projects. I roast people until you punch me in the face and I punch you back. That's what I like to do.

That's how I make my friends. I make my friends, that's how we create our boundaries. I talk about you. That's how we created a friendship. You know what I'm saying? It's like sometimes you've got to go at it. I'm a New York Negro. I'm never going to not be the kid on the block

ready to snap. Would you tell him, Reggie, he said, I'm glad the abortion didn't go to the time. Yeah, he tried to say some slick stuff with his little chest. Go get out of here Go get your ass in an incubator Go finish developing

Oh, I bought y'all something I don't like coming in here What? Because y'all was it on abortion? She said, is that a plan B? What is it wrong with you this morning? You said what? Nothing.

She asked me, was it a plan B that she bought for us. No, I bought that for what's his name Reggie's mother So she can finish the job Okay, so this is simple stuff First, I bought some Anybody in here has cigar smokers Okay, I bought my cigars

My Liga Tridente cigars All right These are all good We roll them in Honduras I see I put the fresh pack You smoke Yes I got you

Okay You got everything you want These are celebratory times Every day is a celebration You woke up today We celebrate Let me know We go sit down in lounge and smoke

And I bought that for the fellas And ladies smoke too You know Don't inhale Because you may get dizzy And then I bought you One of these That's for your little head

Yeah. I bought these. Oh, classic. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.

I bought that for you. Okay. And then for the ladies, I bought this one for you. A lop dog. Which one? Oh, yeah. Okay. I don't want to, nobody, y'all don't fight over my face now.

And then I bought this for you. You can sleep in this and you got me on your chest. Okay. All this is available on Malawayans.com. So you get my cigars and you can get my merch. So you got the Loke Dog Show. That loke dog up there, you didn't want this loke dog last? I'll bring you a, you want this loke dog shirt?

After this interview, I'm gonna leave it on my chest. Like LeBron. The dog is legendary. That's why we got him up there. But he doesn't look like loke dog. He ain't that strong. So it's constant not going to scary six, scary movie six, because that's... We're working on it.

Okay. We're working on it. I love that little young brother. I love what he's doing. Most of all, I love that he stay out of trouble. I love his whole crew. I really think, like, you can't be an old head and not respect the youth when they're coming up.

I sit there and go, hey, maybe I should start an old stream for old people, old heads. That would be a lot of fun. But how we're going to figure out how to get on? What I mean? Oh, I got kids. I got a two and a half year old. She knows how to work everything. How are we going to figure out how to get on?

I got you. I got kids. Your daughters help you get on. You got daughters? Yeah, four. You got four daughters? Oh, you're Nick Cannon Jr. You're like, no, same mama.

How many mamas? Same. He had to, what did you have to think? You should go to that. You know what's your sharp shooting. Look at it. Dude, that's good. That's good.

You can blast them all the way out. That's sharp shooting. I'm proud of you, Black, man. But yes, that stream was, it was just fun. I had so much fun. I think the key to life is you just have fun. Everything I do, I just have fun, and I put 150% into it. I don't let no, I don't let nothing go.

I'm not too cool I just want to have fun and that's always what I'm gonna be and it does feel like you're constantly reintroducing yourself to a new audience because like you said she didn't know that's not true I didn't know right so it's like my kids friends didn't know they all like yo you a goat I didn't know you was that funny you didn't see scary movie you didn't see white chicks you didn't see don't be a minutes you didn't see mall and show you got to watch some of them old heads when they come on that stream they're great but it's not that's why I get what you say I know but she was comparing

athletes and like no it's celebrities different with comedians yeah comedians are different people Kevin Hart was great as well too yeah because he's on the road yeah but I'm like I don't know I think because it made me think what if we had like you know the in living color stream like what if those worlds collided today what will we see and how would the talent you gonna see it I'm gonna start my stream we're gonna be twitching soon people period the way it actually ain't on these oh I can't get my old brother which camera is it and get that camera on my face.

No, my brothers wouldn't do it, but I would. I'm just a troll like that. That's what I love to do, you know, and I think eventually that is exactly what I'm going to do. Here's so much, when I went on that show, I have a wonderful stylist, Jason and Ron, and these brothers try to put me in some cool boots, and they were slippery.

I was like, uh-uh. And they had me dressed with some cool D-squared pants and this suede jacket. I said, no. I said, they go, why? you want to step up your level i said no no i'm going there with these young negroes and they going to be acting the fool i want to be i don't be sliding around i don't want to feel like a um give me put i'm wearing these snap on rick owens i'm wearing some rick owen sneakers i'm going

there with the youth and we're going to have fun so whatever they was doing i was just like oh you want to dance oh yeah yes yes they could be keep oh with your ass after a while and then i had drink oh come on now don't give me no drink drink anything four bang drinks my heart was being i had two of them bangs my heart was doing this the bang the bang energy it's like energy drink bro that's like liquid coke i was tweaking up you think i sweat here i was sweating in my underarms i looked like a substitute teacher it was crazy that's why they brought kailani in there to level it out but you still was going she was just like are you are you on something i said yes bang energy drink for them damn now when you talk about the

him. Was there something in Isaiah White that challenged you? Well, break down what him is for people like, because they haven't seen it yet, what is him about? Him is a basically, it's a psychological horror thriller set in the world of football, and it's basically like never meet your idols.

You know, it's like, and what are you willing to sacrifice for success? So a young brother comes to the greatest quarterback, whoever played basically like a Tom Brady's camp. I play Isaiah White. He's the greatest quarterback ever, got eight rings. Eight rings.

So he's the goat. So a young man, he's about to retire because he wants to be with his family and have a kid and chill out. He did it. And so this other kid, this new kid comes along and he comes to his camp and he reminds him of the great he used to be. And he's like, I don't want to retire. I want to make your life hell. I want to break you. And so he goes about psychologically just dismantling him in a horrific kind of way.

And what happens is it's the franchise basically. is a representation for signing with you know like the devil but it's not the devil and it's all about the choice because do you want to be and he tells them don't be me be better than me so all these

spoils are in there for all these athletes for anybody right there's always a sacrifice oh you want to get on what are you willing to do to get on because at a point it's not worth your integrity you never lose your integrity don't be a part of this system if you have to lose your integrity you buck

system and you become the system and that's what I've done my whole career so that's why I really loved about the movie there's something beautiful and positive for young young people in our industry whether whatever industry whatever job it is that there's a great message in there for nothing should be taken literally is what you're saying no man people people crazy that blood in the eye you know they're doing devil worship marlin was sacrificing ghosts it ain't none of that man it's like look get off of that it's a great movie it's about good versus evil end of the day, good is going to win. So you got to watch the movie.

And honestly, I think it's probably my favorite movie I've been in. I think just dramatically, just visually. Justin Tipping did his thing. Tyreek Withers is great in the movie. Julia Fox is great. All the supporting cast is great. The soundtrack is great. When y'all see this movie, it's not a movie you're going to see one time.

This is a movie you're going to see like four or five, six times. I watched it twice. You saw it? They sent me the screen. I watched it twice. Wow. What did you think? I thought it was really good.

Here the thing. I think I, and for me, I think I gave my best performance. Yeah, you and the dude that played camera and y'all carried the movie by far. I had to watch it. The first time I was like, what did I just watch?

And then when I watched it, the second time, I understood a lot more of it. But then when you said what you said just now, I'm like, oh, so that wasn't supposed to be taken literally. No. Okay. Not literal, but I really feel like this movie, you know, I'm just grateful

because the director let me off the chain. A lot of times directors try to, to cage you and, you know, I'm a lion that I need a safari. I don't like to be caged. And sometimes that's good that you cage because then it's about working the intensity. But when you open up, when you starve me for two weeks and then you open up that cage and it's Sunday and it's a full of people and kids and you're just sitting there hungry and you're going, I'm going to eat. And he would just let me off the cage. Let me off the hinge and just go, go there. And he would just.

We do two takes and goes, that was great. That was awesome. I said, you need something else? He goes, no, that was great. And he goes, let's do one more. I said, what do you want? What do you need? Do you need something specific?

No, I'm good. He goes, just do. And my eyes will light up. He was telling me, throw out the script and do your interpretation of what you feel inside as an artist. This is Miles Davis playing My Funny Valentine. Throw out the sheet. music and you express what you want given the instrument that you possess. And so a lot of

the stuff that we did in there that's unhinged, I was able to just create on the fly. And I know how to, I know how to improvise as the character. And for a reason, I'm not trying to be funny. I'm trying to break you. And breaking you means I got to humiliate you. Oh, I'm going to do that with my jokes. And so there was a lot of just freedom in that role. And I just feel like, you know, I think the world finally gets to see Malin. I don't know why I thought he was stealing people's powers. No. That's what I thought to.

I thought that. Well, he wasn't stealing powers. He was taking blood of grates and infusing it. And then he put that blood in him, you know, because he's passing it on. And not until you get to that point where the two people got to collide. Now we're colliding good versus evil. And then, you know, you'll see the movie. But, man, I really, it's a powerful movie, man.

actor, right? Do you prefer direction where tell me how you want this, or do you prefer let me be an actor? Let me be art. I prefer both, because I know a director, as a producer and a writer and, you know, director, I know a director has a vision of how

they want to see things. Right, how they see it. They're ready in the editing booth. So whatever you're doing, they're ready in the editing booth. What do you need? If I do a take, like, more than four times, there's something specific that I'm not giving them or the camera is messed up. Like, there's out of focus, you know, the Dolly move.

So I don't take that personal. I know, but for me, I like a take where you go, do what you want, do what I want. Now you're going to get something special. Now you get the comedian. Now you get the writer that's been writing movies since he was 19 years old. Now you get the Marlin that I have worked myself to be

and I can improve and enhance any material. When you were shooting, I always wondered when people who work with Jordan Peele, because you have to watch it so many different times, like Charlemagne said, when you're actually in it, are you ever in real time realizing that something might be interpreted one way? Like, oh, that's what this means versus

it being different than when you first read the script? No, I mean, I dig in. I do my work, right? So before I get to set, I have a process. Like, I don't go show up and just learn my lines in the trailer. No, no, no, no. You give me a script, Marlon dives in, so I work with my acting coach.

I bring Leland Duron Thompson, shout out. And, you know, you see my dramatic work. Like right now, when I'm locked, I'd be locked in right now. So the work I do in stand-up is the same work I do when it comes to breaking down a script. So before I get to set, not only do I know the lines, but I know the story. I know the obstacles. I know the objective. In every scene, there's an intention.

What am I trying to get? And then I'm prepared. So when the director goes, all you got to do is touch me like this and change this and get this and give me this emotion. And I got it all prepared because I worked it the night before. the morning before I worked my body to get my body into a certain way like I put on muscle I was 25 pounds bigger than I am now

I lost the weight because I'm about to do shorty in Scary Movie 6 and I don't want him being buffed son I think that's weird so would I have taken Magic Johnson's blood wow wow wow wow well now he would I may take Magic's blood this man richer richer than he ever been you better get some blood too

when he's selling that he on yachts in boats i want that blood like the role is with it being such a psychological role right did it have any effect on your psyche uh no i prayed every day i prayed every day before i got to set i prayed every day at to set i prayed every day before i went to sleep i really tethered myself to god on this dark journey because you know i i know that spiritually i wanted to be protected right So that's first and foremost. Secondly, I had gone through a lot. I had gone through, like, it was the devastation that you wouldn't even believe.

It was like of biblical proportions. I lost 65 people I love. I lost my mother. I lost my father. I had lost so much. And I was so broken. And God gave me this thing. I needed this movie.

This movie helped And my stand-up helped heal me I was I was Tyrese Gibson cry on your show What do you want more for me to do her I get what Tyrese was saying I wanted to come hug him because I know what he went through When he lost his mama I was texting him That's a very hard thing for you to get through

And then to lose your daddy two years later And Rome was crumbling And I was just like So when I got the movie him I saw this dark pool I jumped in this dark pool to find Isaiah because as a character

I started reading books Tim Groven's Relentless started reading Kobe Brian's mama mentality I go I went in mentally and I dove in that pool to catch Isaiah and I found Isaiah

and then I looked up and I saw Marlin face down like Iron Man at the end of when he fought Thanos just like static static

and I saw a broken Marlin and I was like yo I need to go get him I need to put Isaiah's blood into that Marlin because there's so much more for him to do these are his best years so I went and I bought the two of them together and now I'm him so listen when you see Isaiah pushing Cameron to sacrifice everything what moments in filming made you question what sacrifice looks like to you like what boundaries are you willing the push what are you willing to give up i didn't it wasn't even during filming look listen i've i've been raised in a great culture i feel bad for people that came up in the toxic culture where people had to use you to get something for you from you to get on my brothers didn't raise me that way my

brothers raised me like yo if you want to work you better you better write it you want to work you better you better produce it you want to work then you better create it i didn't get raised going Hey, what's you going to do? You want this part? Well, suck on this meat. I didn't. I didn't have that. I had, yo, you want this part.

You better write it. When I was in living color, ain't nobody was writing for me. I had to write my own sketches. Snuff and Rome. Me and Sean wrote that. What's the name of the Def Jamm sketch? Me and Sean wrote that.

Mr. Ugly Man, I wrote that. I had, if I wanted to eat, I had to kill. And so all my movies, me and Sean wrote those movies. My TV show, we created my TV show. Everything we did, we learned how to, and that was the beauty of Kenan. Keenan always, anybody that was around Keenan, learned that. You got to work for it. Jim Carrey, J-Lo, Jada Pinkett.

Anybody, Keenan, Sally, but there's so many people that was in that man's circle, They would go, you want it, and then you're going to work for it. And so he said to me as a kid, you've got to be an undeniable, to make it as a black man in this business, you have to be an unstoppable, undeniable force of nature because they will write you off. That's why I'm surviving like a roach 35 years later. Do you don't think these niggas wanted me gone after white chicks? I should have been dead.

I should have been gone after more money. You get a window to be hot. It's hard to stay relevant and keep getting harder for 35 years And my best years are ahead of me That's because I do the work It's all about the work All about the instrument all about refining your art I want to be like Prince

I want to play every instrument I have I want to I just work it You just work it that man started out Just being a dancer and a singer and guitar And over the years look what that man did with his lifespan That's what I'm gonna do with mine White Chicks I gotta ask white chicks right hilarious right I think it was one of those movies I don't think people caught at first

but then when they caught it they're like this is one of the funniest would would I'm waiting for technology I'm waiting for AI I want to sit and make up seven hours again for 60 days sitting in seven hours of makeup and then working 14 hours after that which means I'm sleeping two hours every day to do this movie nah AI is coming so I got to get in makeup two times and then the AI will do the work I'm down for that but other than that, I want to do black man the movie where I come in, I do five minutes of makeup, and I get out of the 12-hour day. You said after white chicks, they wanted you gone.

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When they run diagnostic on you guys. I'd be scared. I'll run the Q rating. No, on the Q rating is I get it fast. My resiliency score is down to adequate because we were on a red eye. My resiliency score. Where's your grit? My grit.

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One podcast, one mission, save our girls. Join the searches. We explore the chilling cases of missing and murdered black women and girls. Listen to hunting for answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. To stay around that long, it's because you work, right? I will say this, Hollywood's a great place, but they don't know what to do with you, right? So the opportunities you get, there's only a small margin that you're going to get those opportunities, right?

Because before it gets to me, Will Smith got that script, Eddie Murphy got that script, Jamie Fox got that script, so you got to wait for all these people to turn it down. And I feel bad for regular, regular actors, because then you got to wait. for after me, then after me you got to wait for Nick Cannon, then you got to, you know what I'm saying? Like that's, that's a long time to wait to maybe get a role, but if you create the role and you put yourself as the star, now I can cast other people in my vision. So these are my best years, and I started out as a farmer and an agricultural, my brothers taught me farming and agricultural to be an agriculturalist. Now I'm like industry, industry, industry, philanthropy, and education is the three things that I'm going to work on in terms of building this brand.

For you personally, what was more frightening, I guess, harder to portray, like the supernatural psychological aspect or the human fears like failure and insecurity, aging, legacy? I think the human. It wasn't harder. I think that stuck with me more because as an aging star, you right, you start thinking about those things. Luckily, like I said, I'm not insecure like that because I create my own way so I don't care who coming up next I applaud the next man because I'm right in the movies so I could put you in my movie because I know what I'm doing and then when I'm getting too old and I start getting the Morgan Freeman Moles on my face I ain't going to be trying to be the sexy man I ain't pulling this dick out with gray

hairs all over we're going to be behind the scenes but these are my best years and I preserve myself physically so that at 53, I can play 35. So now these are my star years, right? And everything else was just practice and knowing and learning. And I'm very grateful to God to be on this journey and continue to love it. I love this. I love it. How long did it take to shoot him? Him took about two and a half months, two to three months. And we was in New Mexico. But, you know, preparation started six months before that. You know, I'm going on walks every morning. I'm sitting in red light therapy. I'm working out two times a day. You know, preparation starts way before you actually get to set. When you get to set,

now it's time to have fun. I was going to ask you, you said you prayed a lot throughout this. What did the movie teach you personally about your spirituality? How good God is and how you should, how everybody needs the wind of God to really get to where you're going. And if you don't, humble yourself and just know that there's a higher power that one. one day you will you will lose yourself you will lose yourself and you will think you are God and that happens to a lot of us you know and and as and I love Will when Will hit Chris I got concerned not because of the mental aspect but because of the spiritual aspect when he did his speech and he didn't thank God first that's what I was concerned from and then

when he when he lost when he lost his stuff and then that's why he tethered to God afterward and I go okay now you're going on a journey now the view that you were you needed to go through this you needed that breaking to understand that there's something bigger than you which is God and through that journey and through the hard work we're going to be all right he's going to be a better will than he was before but sometimes you need that moment and you can't think you got there's only one God and I was raised with God and you can never take that from me what Lauren said you know a lot of older people especially old people But they'd be like, don't, don't y'all celebrate Halloween.

Halloween is for the devil. Don't y'all don't y'all'all. Then my daddy was that. So you grow Joe Wooden? My daddy was turning in his grave like now. He shouldn't have done this devil movie. My daddy turned. He was Joe Witness.

No Halloween. So how did that say when you do those type of movies? Hey, man, he dead. Listen. Oh, my God, Marley. I'm sure. Dead now. I'll be having Halloween parties.

Christmas. Oh, we have a hell of a Christmas. I go, and sometimes I go to his casket, and I just, I adorn it with Christmas, play Christmas carols right next to him and my mom. And I know he and they're like, I hate this little negro. You know, so, but my father knows when my father passed, you know, I watched him say a prayer before he died. And he didn't ask God for anything. Ask God. All he said was thank you.

So grateful. Thank you for letting me see my children and my grandchildren be born. to be raised, this family that you gave me. And it was so powerful that, and when he left, he said, you know, if you ever wanted to find me, I need you to open that book. So the one thing I got from my father is his Bible. And I keep my daddy's Bible by my bed.

And whenever I think about my father, I'll get, I wake up and I read my Bible, just like my father said for me to do. And so he said, if you know my father, then you'll know your father. So I'm on a journey to really embrace more God in my life I've been very settled and very chill I don't be going to clubs

That's why I smoke my cigars And have me a little whiskey and I just chill out My friends and we just laugh and hang out And you know you find a good life outside the noise And my mama before she died She said yeah well this is a contrast of my family See that yeah nigga well I'm in every book So whenever you read anything

Mama is in that book So now when I'm reading green eggs in hand And my daughter, I'm like, hmm, ham spelled backwards, mah. Look, going back to what you said, Ben, the preparation takes longer than, you know, the actual filming of the movie. What was your training regimen? Because you play a legendary quarterback.

Well, here's the thing. I physically got into this part. See, Tyreek, he's 25. You know, them 25-year-olds, they look at weights and they get buff, you know what I'm saying? I had titties before I went to shoot It was after COVID I had tities I had a belly

I was shaped like a little Rick Ross And no it was bad And so I really was doing like push-ups sit-ups Pull-ups I was doing everything And my trainer Adam Quinter Shout out to Adam Quinter You can find him on Instagram QT training

And then CJ Fit in New Mexico So it was a hell of a regiment So when we did football training Tyreek was throwing the ball because he used to play for Florida State now he was off the bench

but he was the water boy but he was around all those great players and he got a ring from the Orange Bowl didn't play didn't run a yard damn mom well you know hey but he drank a lot of Gatorade that game like he did something and he got a ring

so he got a ring and when he started throwing a ball because he was a wide receiver he was gunning it like God Jordan Palmer was teaching us how to throw and everything so i went to camp and he had done camp like maybe maybe six times before i went so i go there with my old arm and i start i go to throw and then you know i'm pigeon toe he said stop i said what i said what you needed something different i need to throw with more he goes no we need to teach you how to walk again i said what he said yeah you're pigeon toe and i need you to

walk one foot in front of the other i looked at that man i said yeah this last time i'm going to come in this camp and I left I never went back you ain't gonna do that to me teach me to walk while this niggas throwing 80 yards so I started having quarterback coaches come to my backyard in my house to train me or I go to fields and I would train and as soon as I got to set

I went to go throw a ball and my director said what are you doing put that down I said I gotta throw you said no you don't he said you're 53 you see that young man right there with that funny hair do like yours I said yeah watch him throw this ball

and he threw it like 80 yards I said that's dope he goes yeah that's what he's gonna do he said I didn't we didn't hire you for that you know we hired you for for your acting

and your abilities so go eat eat the hell out of this role and I just I ate DJ all that you had to throw football one time I do I threw it maybe

there was about three scenes where I had to throw but I didn't have to worry about throwing Tyreek was walking around he had ice packs and show the packs and now I was just like yeah young buck and that's welcome to the big

leagues young buck where you have attempted to add comic relief in the in the movie I always got this there's some funny stuff in there but it's not like I'm trying to be funny it's just funny because of the situation and because he twisted it's like the joker it's like Denzel in training day to me the bad guy has to have fun your hero is only as good as the bad guy so the better the bad guy is, the better the hero can be. So I made sure I just gave it different complexions

and textures. It's a performance. It's untethered. It's different. Honestly, we all watched it. My age is watch it. I haven't seen many performances like that. Not yet. Damon's going to blow. It's too dark. Keenan may go see it. Sean, I don't know. That's stupid.

Sean, everything I do, they're stupid. Why you want to do that? One time... One time I was going up for the Richard Pride movie, Sean said, why are you going that? I said, because I want to win an Oscar. He goes, for what? That's stupid. I was like, because that's my dream, nigga. It's Richard Pratt.

But me and Sean were different, but Sean was saying was, you do comedy and you do us. And I was like, I do do y'all, but I also do me. And I got my dreams outside of us that I want to accomplish. And I'm going to own that. I'm just not going to, I'm going to follow the footprints. up to a point and then I gotta go I'm gonna go this way because I gotta be a trailblazer for the next generation for my kids and my brother's kids who may not want to do comedy it's hard that's interesting just taking a role like Isaiah feel like a turning point then like maybe

changing what people expect to hear from Marlon Williams oh it's it's a game changer this is it's a game changer when comedians start doing drama yeah that's when you really blow up that's when you become legendary when Robin Williams started doing When Jim Carrey started doing dramatic stuff, when Will Smith started doing dramatic stuff, when Jamie Fox started doing dramatic, that's the game changer because the comedy is hard, but it's the vulnerability that comedians have that make us so special in dramas. Because when you see it the funny guy hurting, you hurt. When people see me hurt or messed up, they feel bad. Oh, no, don't let that happen to Marlon, not the goofy one, you know. That's the one to make us laugh and smile all the time.

So you got your game changer role. I saw a Hype Beast article say you're in your Goat era. I watched your CBS this morning. I didn't say that. I'm not going to say that. They said it. Hypeed said you're in your goat era. Well, I would never call myself. I don't self-proclaim, right?

I think that's false idolhood. I don't do that. I don't, because to me, goat is how good am I in my body with the tools that I work, that God has blessed me with? How much work am I doing? I want to be the greatest Marlin that has ever existed in terms of myself. and that's not about competition

I love all my brothers I respect all my brothers I respect Will Smith I respect Dave Chappelle I respect Kevin Hart I don't be bashing nobody but they're them and they're being their best them

and I'm trying to be my best me and that's all that's important so goat error and you know that conversation that's for everybody to talk about for me I just want to be the best Marlin let the best Marlin win

I just feel when I've been watching your interviews getting ready for this that there's a you have like a feeling of like there's like happiness but there's like an even though you've already been here. You said it took 53 years to feel special on CBS. Yeah, to get confident.

But that's, to me, listening to you say that, it's crazy because, like, you've always been Marlon Wayans. I have, but there was missing pieces. I said, you was back on the tape. I'm not what I said. Yeah, we can run the tape. I know what I trust you, because you be on your facts. Thank you.

Okay, thank you. What I'm trying to say to you is, when I watch your interviews, I don't know, just feels different. Like, you feel like you've arrived now. Yeah. Why? What is the feeling with this role? I've done the work and life has... Life breaks you and rips you apart and you survive through that. And you just go, oh, I get it.

I'm here. And I, and, you know, like I said, I was always a happy go lucky dude. Once I survived the trauma and the pain that I went through, I'm a better actor. I'm a better actor because I've been through more. And now my comedy, I don't write about pop culture. I write about what hurts me. I write from blood. So when you see my stand-up, it's not just, oh, he's telling silly jokes. Oh, he got a story.

Yo, there's something that I learned when I watch that. It's coming from a special place. And when you can make your pain funny, that's when you start getting great. Richard Pryor took his pain. He had a heart attack. And he's like, you know what's funny about having a heart attack? And he did the most brilliant bit on having a heart attack. That's where you, for me, that's when I got confident when I started.

doing stand-up and really looking at myself as an artist and going I want to be better writing scripts ain't enough acting ain't enough producing is not enough and then when i said i want to be a superstar stand-up so now i can do it all put me anywhere let's go let's rock let's get it that's so crazy that she's talking about the i've arrived moment right but we look at you from that from a long time ago yeah just look at the history that you've done you know every time they said you couldn't you did it over they try to take your you know what you've done and you said i F you, I don't need y'all, I'm going to do it my own way. The shop is classic.

You have to write down like top five in a little color sketches. I guarantee you Mr. Ugly Man going to be going to be up there. I had good instincts. It's weird that you're saying this is my, you know, I've arrived moment where we looked at it so long. Do you feel like you don't get the necessary, I don't want to say respect, but the kudos that you deserve because you are the funny guy, you are the cool guy.

I mean, it's a lot, right? It's beyond being the funny guy, the cool guy. I think, you know, it's also, I'm the baby of legends. It's hard when you're the baby of legend. You got all these legendary dudes doing legendary things, and you were part of that tribe. Oh, that's Keenan Damon, little brother.

And not to say that I want to stand out. It takes time to know Marlon, right? It took Michael Jackson a long time before he became Michael. You know, he was toured with his brothers until he was like 35, 40 years old. And he was like, okay, then he wasn't bad and, you know, off the wall. he's done little things and then thriller hits and you go oh he's michael it takes time for you to stand apart when you come from such a legacy and i never wanted to stand apart because i love wands i die wands i breathe wands i live wands and for the past 15 years i just been working on marlin

so that when i come back to wands i could be a better stronger finger in that big in that fist and do our best work that's why Scary Movie 6 this is big this is bringing us all back together and now I got a completely different skill set than I had when I did the first one so I can't wait till next summer June 12th

in theaters scary movie 6 we come with these laughs everybody need these laughs and I just feel like that's why I said I feel like I've arrived because everything's moving in slow motion I get it it's the matrix I also wonder the expectation of being aware it's kind of like they just

expect greatness for me also it's just like whatever yeah but that that goes with it but do you think about this the things that i haven't gotten yet that i don't yearn for it don't i didn't it's not that i that makes my identity but i want them statues i want that in me i want that oscar i want that grammy for my comedy album i want that tony for a broadway play i want those things and i'm get those things. And if I fall short and I don't get an e-got, if I got a got I'm happy. If I got a, I'm happy. But I know that I'm putting in the

work. And even after I get that, to me, I still never made it. Because you stay hungry as an artist. Look at guys like Kobe. 60 points on his last game. He kept doing the work. It's about doing the work. The Kobe that was in the league when he was 19. He was

dope then. But you see the Kobe at 35 when he was starting to win those rings consecutively. That's a different Kobe Bryant. Then after he left him and Shaq had the dismantling of that team for him to go get another ring or two more rings after that without Shaq, that's because that man was an animal. You got to be, I'm an animal.

I'm in that gym. I'm working out. I'm working my instrument. I'm on a stage. I am not going to fail my moments. Period. Clock it. Clock it.

Clock it. Speaking of scary, hold up, show me. Speaking of scary, movie six yes have you all start filming no we start filming uh I'm going to London to promote him and then I got a gig in San Jose and then October 1st we on the the set up in limit color so I mean of us scary movie six no scary movie movie six scary movie six so we start that we got Anna Anna is back Anna Ferris Regina Hall we bringing everybody back and man I'm telling you this

movie script is funny and we gonna knock this out the park are y'all doing a living goal no no I would you said y'all was doing something with the way and the brothers I'm supposed to be like a show I ain't announcing it yet but we know but we're

investigating doing all this stuff he said that last time he was up here I remember then we did scary movie six I ain't lying no you're not I go on the announcement came out y'all held us down because I remember your public said she was like I'll make sure she made sure we had all the information

So whatever you're working on with your brothers, we would love to also be the home where the world find out. I will let y'all know. I will come here. I will come here second after Kaysana. Here's the thing, guys. I love the old heads, but man, somebody. I'm joking.

Gross, I'll come here first, man. Go ahead, Jess. I wanted to know if I could audition for a scary movie six. Girl, we don't cast it. I would love to have had you in there because, okay, well, let me think of, man. She could die. Of course, everybody asked me to be in it.

They asked me to be in, I'm killing them. Everybody dying. Everybody dying. But if not, when we do scary movie seven, boom, I got you. And I can write something funny and be like, hey, what's something that you could do? I like, I like tell them making suits. So what do you like to do? You know what I mean?

It's like, yo, put me in. I was like, all right, give me a second. And I'm, you know, I'm creating it. It's going to happen. We're doing it. See, she'd have been here last time he was in. Sorry, she was having a baby. Stitches.

You know what I mean? Can she breastfeed her baby off camera? You know what I mean? Baby need milk. You know what I mean? Yes. Let's I got two more questions. What's the line?

And you do be acting. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because I thought it was an only fan thing I saw about. I was like, oh, that's a part. Oh, it's a part. Yeah, you were doing it too. I'm like, okay.

Okay, go on through that. That's how I see how you got that baby. Thank you, Barley. What's the line between being a hero and a villain from? Isaiah's perspective. I think in his eyes, he is the hero. From an ego perspective, he's not the villain. He's the hero, and he ain't going to let nobody.

In his eyes, Cam is the villain. He's trying to take my spot, and I'm not going to let it happen. I sacrifice everything to get here. You don't deserve what I got. And so it was dark thinking. A lot of Isaiah is dark thinking, very negative. very arrogant, you know, full of himself. And so that's just the way I approached it, you know.

What about from your perspective? I like to live a humble life, but I think you've got to be humble as a person and a shark when it comes to your business. When it comes to your dying thirst to get things done, I don't sit there and wait on things to get done. I'm going to do it. I'm a do it. I'm a killer. I am, there's a, I read the book by Tim Grover and Relentless.

There's coolers, clothesers, and cleaners. Tim Grover, Grover, he was Michael Jordan's trainer, Kobe Bryant's trainer, Dwayne Wade's trainer. I want to be a cleaner. I want, give me the ball. I know what to do it. Just give me the ball. I practice enough that I own the right.

Give me the ball. I'll know what to do with it. It may be a pass. It may be a three-pointer. I may drive and get fouled and go to that free throw line, and I'm an 85% shooter, and I'm going to make it happen. And if I'm double-teamed, I know to dish it off there. Give me the ball.

That's where I'm at in my career right now. I'm waiting on parts. I know my next seven movies that I have that I want to develop. Two that I have written. One that's almost being set up. I want to do a romantic buddy comedy. I'm set up right now for me and Kiki Palmer. Like, I see it.

I see it in ways that I don't know if anybody else has had. Like a lot of my peers, I love them to death. and they're brilliant i think i'm the only one that's like been writing movies since i was 19 years old and producing movies and now as a star i get to write and produce movies for myself and then look at scripts in a different way like oh here's how we can make that better i'm just in a zone everything moves in slow motion i see air what the hell what now you're supposed to say hey can i be in those movies that you're that was a good cue but you know what i would tell you you You're funny.

You should be writing and developing movies. On your off time, that's what you should be doing. You got to, because you're on stage, right? You're still doing your stand-up? Don't you feel the growth when you do stand-up? Like, oh, I'm that dude. Because ain't nothing better than bombing. When you feel that cold air of a bomb,

like you throw a joke out there and it just hanged there and you get an aw. Yeah. And you feel that despondency, like, I'm going to double down. Now I got to double down. And that's how you get the better joke. You keep digging. You can't be afraid of silence, but you should be writing, producing, studying, because after this, what do you do?

Or you could do it both. See, nowadays, you can do it all. Look at you, writing books and, you know, you selling houses and doing all kinds of stuff and everybody. We all are industry. We have learned that we are not just a part of the industry. We are industry. That's right. My last question.

Boom! You don't know a closing line with you. I was thinking about, right? He don't know what more. That was the club of the line. We are in the street. Boom! I like that.

But I just want to know. I almost took my draws off and threw him at the crowd. When it comes to your personal life, how close to the role of Isaiah was it balancing, showing somebody at the top of their game, but also being at a breaking point? Being at a breaking point. What do you mean? Somebody, Isaiah was at the top of his game. But he was also at a breaking point.

Yeah. Have you ever felt like that in your own life? No. Even with all the grief and everything? There's a synapse, right? These all these things that happen. I think a breaking point, but physically, mentally, emotionally?

Yeah, all of that. Oh, man, I think three years ago I was at a breaking point. And that's why I stress mental health, right? I wear this mental health awareness thing to remind myself, you know, as a black man you have to take care of your mental health you because I got there I seen myself tossing myself off of a building that happened to me twice because that was everything was hitting me at one time and so much pain when my mama died and my daddy died and then my daughter transitioning at that point there was just so much devastation happening that I just felt like I can't take it

And that's when I call my two therapists. And that's the thing about therapists. I have two therapists. I have a female and a male. And because I want to make sure that I govern both sides of myself, my masculine self, my feminine self, that I can listen to women when they have, you know, and sometimes you need a woman's voice. And it's funny.

My female therapist protects my masculinity more than my male therapist and supports it. So I think it's important to have therapy and to have God. Those three things and a great sense of humor. those three things have gotten me through and you know God is so real you ain't found God until you heard never would have made it

and you crying in the car and you crying in the car with the snobble in your nose shaking going yes I never would have made it without God I never would have made it God is good

there you go Marlon wins ladies absolutely man make sure y'all see him this Friday this Friday September 19 never would have made it mm-mm Scary Movie Six next summer.

Yes, sir. Scary Movie Six next summer. Make sure you, Mallowayins.com, get your merch. And go get these wonderful Liga Tridente cigars. I'm telling you right now, they're hit. I love y'all, man. And I want to thank you guys for always supporting me and making this home. And that, you know, y'all know me a long time.

And, you know, y'all see me do the work. And I see y'all do the work and just know what I root for y'all every step of the way. And, you know, we ain't done. We all just beginning. Yes, sir. And I just want to say one last thing. We appreciate you. Marlon is the one for people out there listening that if you're going through something

or if there's a problem, he'll text you to check on you. Not too many people in the industry do that. We see so many people come and go all the time. But he will check on you. Yes. And appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate you. Marlon Wayans.

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