The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Max B & French Montana Talk Unbreakable Bonds, Coke Wave, Legacy + More
Episode Date: January 13, 2026Today on The Breakfast Club, Max B & French Montana Talk Unbreakable Bonds, Coke Wave, Legacy. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener... for privacy information.
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We got some special guests in the building.
Yes, indeed.
French Montana and Max B.
Welcome.
Come on.
The first thing Max B said is why is my picture not on the wall?
Because he was in prison.
These are all.
moments that happened here, Max.
On the breakfast club.
From Elena.
Max, you was in prison.
Then he said you got Cardi B up here three times.
No, that's Cardi B, J-Lo, and Angie Martina.
They're not the same person.
Back, you wasn't here, man.
I want my picture up.
How are you?
How are you, sir?
How are you, French?
I'm good.
Man, I love to see this, man.
You know what I mean?
You know, Max did a bid.
Everybody knows that French.
You always held them down.
How did this bond stay the same through all that time?
Communication.
I'm saying?
Happiness from my bro.
Y'all did doing this thing.
Kept me tapped in on all levels.
Through the whole joint.
Seeing everything.
Videos, the TV, the music.
That was it.
We just was just riding out waiting.
You just doing brubbly shit.
Pardon my language.
That's all.
You curse.
Oh, are you cursing?
That's it.
Oh, it's on.
Yeah, it's on.
And it's like, French, you always believed Max was coming home.
Yeah, for some reason.
Why did you always believed it?
French always said a date that didn't exist, though.
He'd be on January.
Nah, he'd be home February.
It'd be him telling me that.
I was getting in trouble.
I was getting in trouble.
It'd be him telling me that.
The last one he did was like, what, like two years ago.
I was supposed to go to halfway.
I was in all that.
I didn't screw my little joint up inside, messed everything up.
Got pushed.
But it kind of worked for him, though.
I would like, yo, he coming home.
Next month, everybody starts calling me.
How much you need for this?
How much you need for this?
He'll rack up all the money.
He'd be like, all right, tell him I'm not coming home this year.
Yeah.
Right, look, too.
That's up.
I'm coming home this year again.
So what were you doing so you couldn't get home?
Like, what was going on?
Were you on the phone or?
That too.
But I beat the phone joints.
I got caught with like drugs, weed, back old dirty young ones.
In there?
Yeah, in there.
Oh, okay.
Jesus Christ, man.
Like a convict.
You ain't saying, maybe I don't do this so I can go home
or you was like, no, I got to support.
I'm like, man, I'm just going to do this how I do it.
I go home with two years anyway, so.
And I've been there on this long.
They can wait a little longer for me.
It'll work out because I came home on my dude birthday, so.
That was a special moment.
Abidi Mali.
He'll hit me with presents all, every year, gold plaques, all the types of things.
He said, yo, you got a max B on your birthday.
You got to pick a valve.
How many people didn't do the bid with you?
For instance, somebody who did, how many people didn't?
Listen, I ain't going to say no names.
I think that's inappropriate.
I'm going to tell you this.
Those who didn't do it, they didn't do it.
It's all right.
The people that surround me, God got them right where he wanted them to be.
Word.
Just how we're going to do that.
Yeah, sentence was cut by a lot,
drastically cut.
Why was it cut so much?
Because at one time we was like,
then Max B. ain't never coming home.
But then we seen hopes.
It was similar in glistence of hope.
Number one, I wasn't supposed to be in there first place.
I was in the whole other state when the crime happened.
And I got out because my lawyer was a grease ball.
It had nothing to do with my crime.
I was found.
I copped out 20 years to my crime.
I got back on PCR.
which is post-conviction relief.
So my lawyer was ineffective.
I got back on that.
And thanks to my good defense team,
my hand on the pill,
that's another stuff.
I have no idea what you're talking about right now.
My defense team on the pill.
Defense team on appeal.
When he appealed.
When he appealed?
He's a defense team.
I'm cool with it.
You're too smart not to know.
Too many books.
No.
Oh, shalry.
How did it feel creatively to revisit the
Coke Wave series after so many years.
It was rejuvenating
to be able to work on him again.
That was like the...
Hey, you know, I wanted to go do my own thing,
but just getting in the lab with French,
it was like, it brought back
a lot of old energy.
It just felt good.
You know what I'm saying? My boy on point.
He had to get me on point and I'd get my voice used to
back to the, back to the, um, mic,
and shit back me in the studio.
It felt good working my brother.
Why didn't you wait to make this the first musical offering?
And I, French, I noticed you probably wanted that.
You were like, yo, you know what?
Let this be the first thing you put out.
No, he put his own project.
I know that.
Why didn't he, why didn't you wait to make this the first one?
I was making both of them at the same time.
Gotcha.
So whenever I wasn't in the studio with him, I was doing my own thing.
I'm always in the studio.
You know that.
But the fed, my, my committed fans, my cult,
They needed something.
They needed the domain.
So that was just like, yo, look, this is what I was going through.
This was on my mind.
Here you go.
You know what I'm saying?
When I come out with me and bro, it's like the Beatles.
They could go solo.
But when they link up, they're the Beatles.
When we link up, we Coke wave.
But at the end of the day, we both go and do our own thing.
Were you surprised by the warm welcoming you got?
Because a lot of people came out in the last couple of years.
And everybody always says, I feel like this person should have got the max B welcoming.
I feel like that person should have got the Max B.
But I feel like everybody's arms opened up for Max B.
It's love.
I'm humble.
There's love.
Because, yo, man, look, he wasn't supposed to take me away anyway.
But y'all got me back.
It's good.
I wanted to just get y'all.
I didn't want to wait around.
I didn't want to complain.
I just wanted to go on the stool.
Get after it.
Show y'all what in a real New York Jeep post
looked like coming up out of the slums.
You definitely showed us.
We was at the Brandy and Monica.
a concert, you came out, man.
You was, like, you were on these stages up.
You was ready.
Have you taken a second, like, for yourself?
Because you've been on go since we've seen you.
At the game, you at the concerts.
Like, have you taken a peaceful moment for Maxby
away from everybody?
Not yet.
Me and wife, he's about to go on the cruise, though.
We're about to get that right.
Love that.
Board of shit.
Yeah.
But he's been standing down for 18 years.
He took that.
He took him longer than a minute.
He took 18 years.
If I was him, I'd be moving just like that too.
I would think, though, it's a little bit different out here, though,
being able to, like, be with family or just, I guess just not work.
Not with him.
Listen, man, I can create.
I love to create.
I love to make money.
I love to have a good time.
And, you know, that's what I like to do.
So I'm always working and just stay consistent.
I was surprised with the influence, right?
Not New York because we've seen you in New York and we've seen the Coke Boy,
but when I seen a lot of the artists out of time
showing so much love,
posting, I think some of them even sent you something
and I'm like, damn, I would have never thought.
Did you ever think that when you were locked up
that all those artists, Rod Wave, Doug,
and all those artists have so much love for you?
I don't know.
I would never guess it in the million years.
I was on the road last, like my last few road trips,
like people would draw me portraits, all type of stuff.
So it was just
It's beautiful, man
I ain't gonna lie
I'm still
It was rapid that drew your portrait
Somebody stole one of my portraits
It was a big one too
Yeah
Some teethe and blood clob
Where was it at? Where they steal it from?
We were in Rhode Island
Massachusetts
A nice portrait
I'm looking for it
I got a reward for it even
$500 for that
$1,000 for that portrait
Where was y'all at last night, man?
Both of y'all look like y'all and his motherfuckers'all in his motherfuckers'all.
Fritz is barely over there with his eyes open.
No, I want you.
You know, Frist don't drink no more.
Nah, I want you.
Nothing? Like, no alcohol.
I'm still high and drunk from when I stop.
I'm still trying to sew up from when I stop.
How do you like the reception?
Like, you know, a lot of people say that they've been bringing you out to shows
that you're kind of like a fish out of water.
Like, why has Max be on the brandy Monica joint?
Or even Rod Wave, because that might not be your audience.
How is that felt?
Because they'd be trying to clown you online about that.
I don't even read it, man.
I couldn't even tell.
I don't know, man.
I just go out there and handle business.
Look, Monica fuck them.
These ladies fuck them.
They grew up off my shit.
If you don't know my shit, check the receipts, man.
I've been around the while, man.
I probably, they probably, your parents probably made you to one of my
sexy love joints.
One of my loopy...
That is interesting when I think about it.
Maxif you did kind of do sexy drill
before sexy drill.
I'm trying to tell you.
Y'all said that on the project.
Listen, man, let me tell you something.
I'm not saying no names,
but I met a few of these older people,
these artists' parents and stuff like that.
And listen, they love me, okay?
They treat me with respect.
But it's that what you're supposed to do, though?
Like, come out and other people show
that...
To gain their fans, like to put people,
like you're not supposed to go out just on your own thing.
You can do that on your own.
I feel like you're supposed to go on the Brandy and Monica show.
If, you know, a Ronald Stone want to bring you out,
you go out with them.
You know what I'm saying?
Nine and Schnell's want to bring you out.
I feel like you always should go out with people.
It's not guaranteed if the whole crowd going to fill you or not.
That's how you get big as an artist,
regardless whether you're hot or not.
I might come out on a cold place set.
Nobody might know me.
You know what I'm saying?
Where the hell was we last night?
I forgot.
I was thinking about it the whole time right now.
I'm like, where the fuck was we had?
The crazy thing about the monitor control.
The crazy thing about the monocetour.
Yeah, but we did like a gala before that.
Then before that we were so much.
Like orthodox Jews, all types of shit.
It was crazy.
The crazy thing I would say, even with the monies.
brandy tour they thought you had something to do with when jaru got hit they was like
max being his crew beat up job and you was like not at all that made no sense to i was like i love
jiru what the hell you're talking about yeah like jaru like you know what i'm saying so no shot the
job too man um you don't make you want to stay in the house a little longer though you know what
if i got to come home and this the shit y'all putting on me immediately i remember him comes
to the studio from the show i'm like what happened he said man they tried tap into my algorithm
I'm not like I'm going to call me
She said
Where was you last night
I'm like I was at the concert
She was like did y'all beat up Jai Ruh?
I said absolutely not
I love Jiveau
No way
See that be the shit that the internet
Be getting people jammed up and don't even realize
The attaching your name to something like that
But you're still on parole
That's crazy
Then it was another one where he said
You got shot at
he got shot in another club
and I was bad didn't happen
I see that one I think that was like rode out
I'm like that didn't happen
My club's been
peacefully
They've been
They've been in harmony
Everybody's been having
The good time
Like always
I never really
Was like my clubs
Never was fighting
And it just been
It's been wild
I really don't remember yesterday
We can tell Max
In French
I'm trying to hear with us now
How do you prove
To your parole officer
That you didn't have nothing to do with it
Even though we know you didn't
But how do you prove to her?
I just stay consistent with, you know, my whereabouts, my locations and stuff like that.
Just be honest with her.
And she know I ain't without, like, crazy stuff.
Shout to my P.
She cool.
It sounds like y'all have a good relationship.
She's cool.
She's very professional.
She's a good P.O.
I like my P.O.
How long you're on Provo?
For as long as they need me to be.
Five years.
Man.
That's all right, man, because I'm productive.
I ain't complaining.
I don't get in fucking with 20 years.
I'm out, I'm back, and I'm working.
When you came home, you dropped your own project, right?
But then you got the collab with French.
Now, they sound, you know, like two different, you know, fields.
Now, did you have to step outside of your comfort zone
to get with something?
Because you know, he's more upbeat, you know, Afro beats, like all of that.
Did you have to, like, step outside your comfort zone?
Was it ever a moment where you was like,
Nah, I ain't getting jigger with this.
He started that sound.
Yeah?
See, look, I'm gonna be honest with you.
I wasn't on to you back in a day.
I met you at the Brandy and Monica joint.
I wasn't.
Wow.
I just wasn't, I just wasn't.
I was just on other shit.
Well, you better go...
She probably heard you didn't know with you.
But I'm sorry.
But I did.
I keep forgetting I'm old.
Yeah, we're old.
I've always heard about you growing up Matt B.
Yeah.
You want to know what was the.
So were you from thing, too, depending on who listening?
You want to know it was the first song I did with him?
Yes.
Besides the one when I first, first met him, he was like, yo, it was like two weeks after,
you know, meet me in the studio.
I go to the studio, I'm expecting, you know, hear some hip-hop, some Dame Greaves, some, you know.
He pressed play.
What was it, Christina Aguilera beat?
Oh, wow.
Britney Spears.
Now the first thing.
That's what you wanted to do.
What was the name of the song?
Give me slow.
That one.
Money.
Yeah, of Disturbia.
Disturbia.
Disturbia.
Oh, that was Rihanna.
That's Rihanna.
Yeah.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
What the hell of you?
She was Britney Pitts for Rihanna.
They didn't know where they were last night.
Oh, that's true.
That's true.
And how did y'all get so tight?
How did y'all get so close?
I shot to my brother Kyle.
He always told me to shout him out.
He didn't want to introduce me to him.
And I was doing my thing in the Bronx.
He was doing his thing in Harlem.
We just, we met in the studio.
We had did a track.
then after that we just got tight.
I never know French without Macs,
never known Max without French.
Yeah.
Ever.
I learned of you from college,
but because of it.
We worked together
and we've been rocking out ever since.
He came back the next night
and the next night.
I'm like, man,
let's go upstate.
A man got his oasis.
Let's go up there and get back.
We start going,
putting that shit together.
I always tell people,
French is the perfect example of
I'm going to every club
until I break.
Like every club, every strip club, every radio station.
Yeah.
I've never seen a work ethic like that in a long time.
Then he shot his own videos and I'm like, just going to take one record.
And when he caught that record, it was gone.
Always fine.
How did you feel when you were locked up and you've seen the success?
Because you were like at the hype when you were going in.
So how did that make you feel when you seen all your peers blowing?
You were like, then that should have been me.
That should have been me.
Nah, I'm going to say, I'm not going to say it.
I never say that.
I'd be happy for my dudes.
Like, I got a genuine love and happiness for this guy right here.
So when I'm in jail and I'm seeing this guy on the TV,
I'm pumping my fist.
I'm getting excited.
I got my dudes called him,
You'll pick a veil, your boy, your bro on TV.
I mean, ah, you say them.
So that's kind of like my energy when I was seeing them.
It was, it was inspiration, it was motivation for me,
just to keep going.
Let me know, bro, the more he better he got, the more bigger, the more I was in, I was like, yeah.
So you already know, this is the end result.
We wind up making it back on the other side.
Bro, doing this shit, I do my shit.
We can still link up, do cokeway.
My job is just to make sure my brother come home, he felt the same way like when he went in.
You know, I feel like that's the brotherhood responsibility.
I feel like, you know, I remember how he went in.
He was on top of his game.
When he come home, I make sure he on top of his game.
game he up on everything and he don't sleep he learned fast
what's been the biggest thing that or the number one thing that you felt like I need to
make sure I get him this when he comes home business I just think when he came home he just
didn't get no sleep was running around he was trying to record at the same time and
you know just try to do too much you know what I'm saying it was affecting his voice and
I'm like oh bro you got to sit down for a little bit and record I think I think that's probably
the most important thing but besides that everything else he was it was easy for him
Were there things that you were doing when he was locked up
because you do so much of your own business
and you've been so successful at it
that you're like kind of setting up this infrastructure
so that when he comes home
he walks back into it because things have changed.
Yeah, but I kind of been doing that with like every album
that I put out like every album
from the moment he went in
and if you look at every album
you always going to see Max Beat.
Mixed, you're going to see Max Beat.
You're going to see this and that.
Him and Chinks, rest of peace, chinks.
I wish I tried to keep our brother's legacy going on.
But yeah, it was just like that.
It wasn't nothing too crazy.
I'm telling you both right now, I want more ever since you left me.
I want more, I don't know.
What?
What?
Ever since the first record on album?
You heard of it?
That was like.
Sample in the Casey and the Sunshine band.
Did we get off?
I like them type of record.
I'm too old for the cooking, coke, catching bodies.
You know what I'm saying?
I like, I like.
There's no bodies on there?
Huh?
Ain't no bodies on there, Shal.
Don't do me talking about bodies dropping.
That's all game on.
Ain't nobody dropping.
You better listen to that tape.
That's all the man.
You got that $200 million.
dollars, man.
Stop, no, stop, stop, stop.
You don't want to hear about nobody's
and nothing, man.
I want to hear about, I like, ever since
you left, y'all, like, I don't know.
I'm glad you got a record, because now y'all can just
put that joint in the BD yes, let it get it
going, and give us a nice hit record
for the big vet.
So I can't get your picture.
But why we didn't get more of that, though?
Like, that's that tone and that energy, like
ever since you left me, I don't know. You want to
know the truth? I would hope you're telling us the truth,
French.
He didn't want to do that record.
Which one? I don't know ever since you left me.
Ever since you left me?
See, I just, I had a whole turn the torso or something.
Didn't I just say, but that's what I said was you stepping out of your comfort zone.
Ever since you're not.
But if you listen to I don't know on the tape, this is crazy.
That's crazy.
You wild.
That's the one.
That's the right.
I went to death from now.
That's right.
Yeah.
And there's, Frank, sound good on that.
Now you're like, that makes home.
I don't know about it, man.
Yeah.
Yeah. Listen, I love that record.
But you see, he did, I don't know. But then when I played him
this record, he was like, I'm like, oh, bro, you bugging.
Why? Why? Why? I had this record for like a year.
Because I don't know how to make hit records. I just make great records.
That's why you got French.
Because he would eat them.
He's a president.
Yeah.
I played it for him. I walked in the studio. I walked in the studio. He came home.
Because I had that record for like a year. I already knew what that record was.
But I'm like, you know, I'm not going to put nobody on it. I make sure.
This is a gift to my bro.
Let me just put it together like that.
And he came home, he was like,
You want to work?
I'm like, yeah, let's go to the studio.
We go to the studio.
He plays me everything that he got.
How did I pull the record up?
Did I have it in, you said?
Yeah, that's in like a secret lockbox.
He was like this.
Look, I've been holding this for you.
He's looking at me.
He's like this.
He opened that shit like three times
and pulled out a thumb drive.
He was like,
he was like,
he was like,
I was saving this for you.
Yeah, I pressed play.
And he was like,
nah, let's do these greijs,
all these gangsters,
I'm like, oh, bro, I'm telling you.
I play it again.
He was like, oh, you really love that record.
I'm like, I'm telling you.
Then we had to double back.
We doubled back like three times.
I had to come back another day
for you to do this.
I think it was some niggas in the studio
you played
and niggas was like
I'm looking at that niggas
I'm like, hold on
that shit
that shit make a niggas wiggle
Yeah
I'm like
You know you guys
When niggas
Yeah
Every time they're in that
I'm like hold on that
I think I need to get on that
I'll be having like 30 people in the studio
I'd be like
You know what's that disco record
man y'all
Y'all got a visual to it
Yeah
I want to show it to you
But you know how
Man.
So when y'all did this project, did you approach the sound differently?
Like you wanted to give them that classic Cokewave energy, but you still got to compete with
what's kind of going on today, right?
No, it was a balance.
He kind of let me do the culture records.
He kind of stuck to more the shit that's going to be out, the video.
He picked the singles and basically did the whole rollout, did the logistics, like he always
do.
I handle more like the culture, the audio sound, the beats.
shit like that, but it balanced out.
I'm saying?
Do you still live in Dubai?
Are you still living in?
Are you still living?
Are you back here?
No, I'm here.
I ain't never live in Dubai.
But I got my golden visa
and I could live there.
You're in YP?
Nah.
She's never got you there.
So you're a long distance from that?
That's a heck of a difference.
No, she'd be over here and back over there.
Oh yeah, I forgot she's rich.
You're a prince now or some shit, right?
Prince is your prince.
You're a prince talking about me.
Yeah.
Congratulations
on your love
He is a
100 M
Nah, he's a prince
Yeah
No, but my honest
It's been dope to see the growth, brother
For real, man
It's been dope to see the growth
I've seen where you started
And where you're at, man
It takes a lot
But don't try to
To be a brother
Congratulations
Congratulations, congratulations
I mean, first of all
We covered the story in here
With the ring and the engagement
and Envy called you a sniper.
That was crazy.
Yeah, crazy.
That was so crazy.
Yeah, see what was they were?
How did you do that?
That was crazy.
How did you feel?
I had to get on a bunch.
Once upon the time of my life I was.
See?
American sniper.
But your men,
not supposed to go on the radio
and tell the world
by celebrating your engagement.
Damn,
if you threw me on the bus like that?
I'm bad, bro.
I know I hate you about it.
You got in trouble for that?
You got in trouble for that.
My brother,
all these preposterous words,
you speak of it.
That's your show, bro.
What is this thing you talk about?
What are you talking about?
Sir, I've been moved on and passed,
but here's my new record.
Playing my new record.
How's the feel to be in love, though, French?
I've been to love my whole life.
Oh, God.
Big one of talk to you about.
I'm trying to set the tone.
Coke waves, Naucove,
3.5 is out right now.
Speaking of that,
He had engaged.
We're married, too, right?
You're engaged or married?
I'm married.
Don't try that snuck the shit, envy.
No, right?
She's got to smack that.
I'm not intended, right?
Who is ever since you left me about?
Who is that about?
What?
Ever since you left me, it's just,
I think I was going through something at the time,
and I just leveled up.
So we just kind of like, you know,
because I had that record for like a year
and a half, two years.
Gotcha
When you're gonna tell them that though
It's a fresh record
It's a fresh record
No man, no matter
No, but still
But that's
I don't mind
Because when I had it
I had it for like a year and a half too
When you live with records
You learn that they stand the last of time
You know what I'm saying?
Go about
Now you know what wasn't that
You met your wife when you were in jail
Right?
How do you know she was the one?
Because she was around
When it was dark
Mm-hmm
Some wasn't out when she came
My only one is dark, you can see the stars, right?
Anybody that was with me in the dark,
you deserve to be in the light.
How did that happen, though?
Was she like a CO or like what?
Nah, she wasn't a CEO.
She was just attending young day,
sending me letters checking on my well-being
and my spiritual well-being.
And you know me, I did the rest.
I'm a hard.
I'm a charming guy.
So you start playing with letters and shit like that.
It's taboo.
Walking up taboo areas with me.
She walked up to Taboo Lane.
She misses Wingate.
She was a fan of y'all before she wrote you the letter?
She was a fan of yours before she wrote you the letter.
Wasn't a fan.
Oh, wow.
She a little bit, a little bit of fan, but wasn't like,
just wrote me a letter just checking on my health, my spirit.
how you doing, how's your mental health?
You know me at that time
I was a little vulnerable.
So anyway,
Big Mama could have wrote me at that time
and got, you know what I'm saying?
But at that time, that was kind of her letters
like, was like with Juvenation.
It brought me back.
And we just built a bond through
correspondence and we just developed
and got better.
What prompted her checking in on you?
Like she just randomly just wanted to?
No, I'm sure.
I think her ex-boyfriend used to listen to my music.
Damn.
I can't get to it.
And they don't like your shit now.
So about a sniper.
Talk about sniping.
I'm a super sniper.
Listen, let me tell you something.
I ain't had no choice.
I did what I did.
I made the best decision in my life.
I tell you that.
I took that shit.
What does waiving me mean to both of y'all now?
Like today versus what it meant when y'all first popularized?
a while
you're the waveguard
you got to talk about it
maybe now it's like we just
I feel like we restoring
a certain type of
excellence
of culture
and I'm saying
I'm here for a straight restoration mode
I'm in restoration mode
just want to put that flavor
that sound that feel back into this
like we used to have
so it's been feeling like
that it's been pretty damn close
I tell you that. What about you, Frank?
I feel the same way.
Okay. Yeah, I feel the same way. I just feel like, you know,
we're in our own lane, we got our own sound,
we got our own vibe.
I feel like that's a wave. I feel like that's a wave. I feel like that's a wave.
People respect you too, because when
other artists were using that term wave,
people who corrected them immediately.
When I've seen, um,
Whiz Khalifa correct?
Where is Hell?
I remember, I remember, I remember, I'm a little Kanye.
was trying to drop his album, Cold Wave,
and he didn't know by Max, I hit him up,
and I put him on the phone with Max.
And he was like, yo, do the drop for me,
and Max did the drop, and he sent it to Kanye.
So it was kind of dope to see people not even knowing,
I don't know if he knew or not.
You know what I'm saying?
I was like, yo, bro.
I don't think he knew.
I don't think he knew, right?
No.
But somebody that told him knew,
whoever told him the idea knew.
But it's normal in the game to get jacked all the time.
But it was shit like that
That people don't see
How you put that together
You gave me like 7 grand for that drop
The quick yo app
While I'm locked up
So shit like that
We're pulling shit together
Making sure
It count
Yeah man
You just making sure
A nigga was good
You was gone for 18 years
What was the
The hardest thing
Yeah
You look good, man
You look good too bro
That's like that
When he's face with two different
You look like that.
You look the same.
All y'all looked the same.
The Breakfast Club wasn't even on.
No, man.
No, man.
No, it was.
No, it wasn't.
You were in an interview with him at Wendy Williams.
We only been on 15.
So you don't even know him.
We was on with Wendy.
No, he did it.
No, I'm talking about.
So when y'all first start, who started the breakfast club first?
2010.
Yeah, me and Angel E.
Me and me.
Oh, yeah.
I heard about what you did at Yee showed.
I just went viral to yesterday.
Listen.
You pulled your dick out during an interview?
Huh?
Is that real?
It's very real, but here's the deal.
Okay.
Wait a minute, there was this thing called the Me Too movement when you were away.
I don't know if you should bring this back up.
Here's the deal.
Your publicist is back there like, no.
I'm Old Testament.
And I got at least one year to be ignorant.
I got at least one year to be ignorant.
Okay.
They attacked me walking in that room.
You cannot keep on my hand while you're not.
they attacked me walking in that room
she said that they were like you can't keep talking about it unless you're going to show it
and then yeah how you that exactly how it happened she told the story she just told it
she's a journalist oh well um yeah like you was there and i blew my hands down
she wasn't born now because i'm gonna grow it now to show it but you showed it you know
what I show her.
What I was asking
you, Jesus grace.
In the 18th year, I showed it.
Yo.
Oh my God.
Remember that
Seinfeld episode?
She was like,
Elaine was like, you pull it out.
Man.
He was like, it?
Jeremy said it?
She said it?
Oh, man.
Yo.
Your Maxx.
What's the, what's the hardest thing?
Damn.
They're going to go hardest people now.
I know you need that.
You had to adjust to
after being away for 18 years.
Like when you came on,
it's the hardest thing you had to adjust to.
So, my fucking,
I've been getting lost in my apartment
for like two months.
I know that's right.
Lost.
Lost.
Don't know with nothing at.
Can't find shit.
Draws, socks,
teas,
all type of crazy shit.
Just getting adapted to my own place.
You know what I'm saying?
Because my wife put it
thing together before I got there.
So just getting acclimated to that shit.
Man, that shit took too much.
I just stopped getting lost
like two days ago.
Dang. So adjust to your
home? Yeah.
Walking around it.
I'm trying to get dressed and go out. That shit might take
three hours. I'm trying to get out the house.
I'm like, get dressed. Let's go now.
Is he like, I'm trying?
I know where I'm at. Right. Damn, okay.
Yeah, so just
just adapting to... We got on a train station
the other day.
Oh.
How was that, man?
We went to the Knit game.
We left the studio.
We left, we left Quad,
got in the train station,
went to the Nick game.
It was like one stop.
I had to see the train, too.
I had to.
Yeah.
I had the smell of train smoke.
What?
Because I'm a New Yorker,
y'all.
Yeah, he had me stand on that machine
where you got the iPhone swing around.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro.
It's like, we're doing shit.
Like, I'm a, like, I'm an immigrant.
Like, I'm an immigrant.
coming up to y'all in a section while y'all there like,
they're bugging out.
They're like, what the fuck y'all doing?
Man. We're doing this shit, spinning here like this.
That shit was dope.
Having fun, though. Yeah, having fun.
Are y'all recording any of these moments?
Yeah, like that's a straining.
We got a, like a Coke smack coming out,
cocaine-s-sea smack.
We got, like, a thing coming out with a tape.
I think we're going to drive it, like, Monday.
Too, smack.
Was it hard to adjust back to, like, the studio?
Yeah.
The first day.
We still did two songs.
but I was like, yo, I gotta come ahead of the morning.
I don't like this.
So it took like three, four sessions to like get acclimated.
That's what they were giving you a lot of flack for that.
That's why I said on this project,
I feel like you seem more comfortable
and in-pocket on this project.
Well, it's just the way I was working.
So I wasn't, the times I was, I don't want to make no excuses.
The times I was supposed to be resting, I was working.
I wasn't relaxing.
I wasn't getting my,
what I'm saying,
and my shit was sounding a little harsh.
And I was sipping a little bit.
What I'm saying?
It's hard on your vocal cords.
Yeah, I was on your vocal cord.
But, listen, let me tell you something.
That's a problem.
Y'all would never, ever, ever have to
address the bigger bad way, you know.
Because y'all hear that tape.
It's clean.
Definitely.
The beat is tough.
I sound modern.
Fuck dated.
We're modern.
I sound modern.
Was there anybody telling you like,
yo, don't put this out, just wait.
Not this, not this tape.
What, my junk?
No, no, no, no.
I would have loved, I don't know,
I don't know if y'all squash your beef.
You and Drake still did speak, right?
No, no, it's my guy.
Yeah, good.
Yeah.
I would love to hear Drake with you on a record.
Y'all three, y'all two are Drake.
I would say squash a beef.
I would love to hear drink for me too on the record.
I never went back of him.
Shout to poppy.
My bad.
I thought drinking Frank with the sniper game.
No.
Can I had that record?
Huh?
Can I had that record?
Yeah, well, you got to ask him for that record.
Yeah, no, Drake, my God.
He's got a dope record.
Him and Drake got a dope record.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, maybe I tell Drake, let's give that the max.
That would be good, because it is a New York record.
That would be dope.
That'd be dope.
There's a line on the new project, the 3.5, where you say,
Max, you say, I feel like I can resurrect the set,
minus the rail, minus the riders.
Yeah.
You always start some stuff.
stuff, Shalabman.
You said he.
I'm saying about what you left.
What does that mean?
That's how nice I am.
That's how much I bring shit together if I really want to.
Or I could make this shit pure shit.
But we're on go time.
We on positivity time.
We can bring it back.
Shout to railing.
And, Rod, I wasn't trying to shit on niggas.
I was just, you know, writing my bars.
That's how that shit was coming out.
I'm saying?
So I'm saying.
So.
I could do that if I really wanted to
So that wasn't a shot at them
Nah, it was just like, yo this nigga
I'm in control
That's basically
Yeah, shot the rail and rider
I think they got an album coming out too
Yeah, shot to them
So everybody's kind of
I mean where I'm at with it
Which you know ain't no beef
I'm trying to
I'm trying to smooth
Smooth all that out
You know what I'm on smooth time
Family time
It's better when there's no beef in the city
Of course
There's always good
Ain't nothing now
Yeah I don't see nothing
I see little content, yapping back and fall.
Nothing crazy.
I feel like that's why the city is not up.
Because because of that, I think it's been too many years of that.
Yeah.
And that's why the city is not, like, you can't even name three people that.
If they come together, they would be an impact because it's just like it's been fucked up for years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What else you're trying to do, Max?
I know you got music.
You got, you know, what else you want to do now that you're home, other than be with your family?
I want a movie.
You want to move.
I want to read some scripts.
I'm going to go to Hollywood.
I can see that.
I can see that.
Me too.
I need Max Biggervell in Hollywood.
I need me on your big screen.
Yeah.
Need me on cable and Netflix.
Definitely.
I ain't talking about reality shows.
It's basic.
Oh, you would kill a reality show, though.
You would definitely kill a reality show, though.
We could do that easy.
That's a backup.
That's when it's the last one.
We know a couple people at Netflix.
Yeah.
Max B needs his own movie.
Did you all get a Netflix deal?
Yeah, we started in 26.
Yeah, we started in 26.
Max Bia a movie.
I love that you all in his pockets, because he's all in yours.
I ain't see nothing.
My friend for a lot.
I never know French not to get money.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We got some memories.
I remember I came through with somebody I ain't going to say her name.
But as soon as she walked out, he starts smelling her seat.
That's not true.
Oh, wow.
Lauren.
You think I do shit like that outside of the studio.
You don't fuck on.
He was another one not jail?
We were not.
You just walk around to that?
What are lying?
I don't know you, man.
I don't know you, man.
I think he's lying.
I'm not sure if he's lying.
I'm lying.
I'm flying.
It was 25 years ago.
Why can't we know who it is?
But did you do it?
I don't remember.
I really don't.
Salomey has a dog shot.
We would be at great studio.
You know exactly who I can't.
That was his dog size.
That's the young Charlemagne.
Damn.
You dirty.
I was dark.
I'm trying to think.
Oh, I do remember who you.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I didn't do that, though.
I didn't do that.
I didn't do that.
It was Charlemagne the dog then.
I do remember that, but I didn't.
I turned it around.
No, no.
That's what I'm saying.
We got some good.
Look, he swat.
We had some good time at the breakfast club, man.
We did.
What does legacy look like for you, Mac?
Forever.
Breaking generational curses.
Just being around forever with good, good product, you know what I'm saying?
And we look back 30 years from now at the fruits of our labor, like, yo, look what we've been through to get here.
And, you know, just passing it down.
to the youth,
showing them the way,
teaching them not to make the mistakes we made
so they could open it up for their kids.
I'm saying, so forth.
That's kind of like where I'm at with legacy.
How was taking accountability change both of y'all's trajectory?
Because, you know, like, French, you stopped drinking, you know?
Max, you just coming home, you're trying to make what you went through
in teachable moments.
So how is taking accountability, like, change the trajectory of,
not even just your career, but just as you as many?
I've told it.
I'm still drunk.
I'm still high and drunk
For real, I still feel all
With me, it was different
Because the doctor told me if I drink again, I'm a doc
So it was like, I had no choice
No, but
Those were some times, though, I ain't a lot
Those are some times, bro
Hold on, what was that, though? Like, what do you mean
you drink again, you die?
What was it, your liver or something?
Yeah, like my liver and like
Had holes in my liver
And like, yeah, it was crazy
Because I was mixing liquor with pills
And, yeah, and oxies and all types of
He, like, passed out.
What was?
Yeah, I was in ICU.
I was, I was in ICU, like, a couple weeks.
Were you running away from something?
Or were you, like, what's happening?
I was just, I was just, I was like, if you don't end up in the hospital, you ain't
have a good birthday.
French was the life of the party.
No, French was the life of the party.
Bam.
Everybody birthdays will turn into my birthday.
Yes.
He didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't been to many a birthday party.
It's my birthday.
He performed, he called it on stage.
We're drinking.
I don't know how I'd be like, my birthday is all.
I'd be like, no, it's not.
Yes.
So, how do you?
even remember the night but how would you remember the night before being on all that
stuff um i'd be around i'd be i'd be around great company yeah okay i'd be around great company
and just just having fun i was i was always productive yeah i remember i was when you do it for so
long you might you might act the wrong way if you're sober you know what i was because i literally
never even knew you had well i wasn't able to tell i just knew yeah yeah yeah because i was productive
yeah yeah i was productive yeah never knew you even had an issue that deep yeah yeah yeah it wasn't it
It wasn't even the issue.
I just overdid it.
I remember it was just like, it was like a week stretch.
I had this, like, my first show in Saudi.
I got paid all this money.
I flew to Egypt to perform for, like, one of the kings over there.
Then I went to Morocco.
My mother brought her there for the first time, like 25 years.
We were shooting a documentary.
Then I remember just when I got back to L.A., I just collapsed.
What year was that?
Yeah, all this drinking from the, huh?
I said what year was it?
That happened to me one.
I passed out of here.
Crazy.
Dehydrated from just being out of time drinking and all the same.
He had to stumb in his mouth.
He was under the pound.
And my motherfuckin' laugh to me.
I had to go to the fucking ER.
We definitely laughed.
We definitely laughed.
Wow.
I had to go to the ear.
I had to get that shit in me dehydrate all that.
I mean, yeah.
I was supposed to shoot, I was working at TMZ at the time.
We was doing a show with World Star.
And we were supposed to shoot a pilot.
You were the guest for the pilot for my show.
And we found out you were in the hospital.
It was that year.
Yeah, 2019, yeah.
What's last they spoke to Diddy?
Have y'all spoke at all?
That was a nasty segue.
Literally.
Literally.
It's cool.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's talk about people why they're down.
No, no, I'm not joking.
I spoke to Diddy, but I ain't going to tell y'all about it.
We spoke on the cell phone.
That's some shit y'all in here.
Nope.
You idiot.
Coke wave, Narcos, 3.5 is out right now.
Well, I have another question.
Since we're in awkward question moment.
Told them, use that.
Don't get the honey, not the lotion.
Yo, see,
oh.
Coke wave, narcos.
The mix tape is out right now.
Fighting for a life.
You got to show you.
Let's see this music video.
Oh, man.
Shout to my nigga.
Go ahead.
I know you far past your move this, but Jim Jones and you are we going to see a conversation with y'all, reconciliation with y'all?
Listen, if it happened, it happened, man.
I'm over here doing my thing.
Bro doing this thing.
We both got algorithms going off.
If it happens, if it makes sense, it makes sense.
If not, everybody's going to be fine anyway.
That's how I see you.
What we're wrecking on this project challenge you the most?
On this, on this, on this, on this, hmm, what I said yesterday, Mawa.
Yeah, I think the first record we recorded.
Really, that shit seemed like it would be easy for you.
It wasn't.
Hmm, why?
I don't know, Mawa was weird.
Like, the bars felt weird.
Everything was just, that's that first one.
Make them back to wave you again.
Yeah, it was, until we had to come back, play with it.
I'm saying?
And that was like, after we did that, the rest of that shit,
we're gonna cover.
So.
What was weird about it?
Like, did you have to rewrite anything?
Did you just feel like, you were modernized?
It was just, I like picking all my shit.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
But I'm so comfortable with him.
He's like the only motherfucker I ever let.
You're like, your head, right on that.
If he's not doing that, nobody's doing that.
I'm like, well, ego-tist.
going to kind of writing music and shit.
But it just was, it was a funny
record, just for me. It just, out of all the
records, like, that was the one that
was probably a little more difficult to write.
You think people gave you enough time just
to come home and be
a person first before they wanted you to be
Max B, the artist? Hell, no, nobody
care about that shit. I think it was him.
I think, I think,
I think it's the other way around. I think
people were telling him, you should do this with the
family. He was like, no.
No. Take me to the
studio now.
Everybody was telling him.
Why did you want to wait?
Because, man, we're in New York.
Man, this shit is expensive.
I got kids. I got a wife.
She's my hot wife over there.
She likes nice things.
I like to work. I like to buy her stuff.
I like to buy the kids shit.
I'm sure you have years of stuff
written down ready to go too.
Man, I'm just prepared.
I work all the time when I ain't working.
When I'm on the toilet, taking the shit.
I'm writing music, listening to music,
crafted music,
thinking about music,
just all the time.
You don't seem institutionalized as a person.
Right.
Like that's what's interesting.
You did 18, but you don't see if institutionalized.
But you haven't missed the beat, man.
Listen, let me tell you some shit.
I got some institutionalized ways about me.
I still wear my slippers in the shower.
Hey, now and then I walk in.
Oh, shut up.
That's my wife.
Hey, now and then I walk in with my drawers on
the shower.
Damn.
I got some jail.
I feel like.
I feel like.
I'm right.
What?
I'm like,
I ain't ready.
I'm in the water.
I mean that shit.
I'm in that shit washing my jewelry.
My wife's like,
babe.
What the fuck you're doing?
You're that's the two shit.
It's a washing machine.
There's a washing machine.
There's a washing machine right to closet.
Wash and fucking dry.
I'm in that shit like this.
Shocks and shit.
Crazy.
What fuck those?
Who ain't in jail no more, nigga?
That is fucked up, though, how they don't give brothers that did them long bids.
Like, they should give y'all some, like, six months of therapy.
Just to adjust.
They don't give you a fuck about us.
You got to figure this shit out on your own.
We're glad you home, brother.
It's good to see you in this spirit.
I'm glad to see y'all together.
Hold on.
Why did y'all call this project 3.5 in the narcos thing?
Like, why not just?
Because we were so lit back in the days that we skipped the whole volume.
We went straight from three.
We went straight from two to four.
Damn.
We didn't realize that we skipped it.
Like, we was just drunk.
We were just living, rock star.
Licked, just being lit.
Rockstar might not make it.
Just three to, two to four.
And I just remember the fans like, where's three?
Where's three?
So he was just, he just hit me one day.
He was like, I got an idea.
We're going to call it three.
point five. Three for the one we missed and five for the number that come after four.
I was like genius.
A fucking genius.
I love it.
I was like a fucking genius.
Yeah.
I love it.
Jesus Christ.
Great minds thing alike.
We appreciate you brothers for joining us today.
The album is out right now.
Yeah.
What you want to play up the album?
Man, you know what record we want to play.
Play the single, man.
You know, play the dance shit.
Yeah, man.
We're probably not single.
Envy, man.
I like to ever since you.
You left me. That's my record.
That's the one.
That's the one.
Did you sing happy birthday to French when you came on?
Play the record, man.
I said happy birthday.
I think I did.
I did.
Have birthday.
I had my clothes on, no.
Jesus Christ.
He said he wanted to hop out of a cake on my birthday.
I was like, oh, my God.
I say, oh, bro.
You know, boy.
You know, my God.
Oh, my God.
I was going to jump out with this shit like,
woo.
You don't see the confetti of like,
who?
What the suspenders on?
I said, y'all better not bring that fucking cocky.
Man, man, there's a whole different generation.
Yeah.
You got it.
Let's get to the record.
Let's play it, man.
Ever since you left me,
Max B, French Montana,
we appreciate you, brothers, for joining us.
Let's go.
I'm sure Max is funny.
French and Max be calling me all the time
to play the rest.
I'm seeing your voices, man.
It's the Breakfast Club.
Hold on.
Every day I wake up.
Wake your ass up.
You don't finish or y'all's done?
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