The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Mayor Eric Adams Speaks On The Migrant Crisis, Safety In New York, Policing, Homelessness + More

Episode Date: March 29, 2024

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Mayor Eric Adams. New York City, Eric Adams. And we also have lawyer and political commentator Ola Yemi. Yes, right here. Good morning. Good morning, Mayor. How are you feeling, Mayor? Good, good, good.

You know, even before we get into the conversation, I was with Jordan the other day, my son. And somehow your name came up and there was a group of young people in the room talking about politics it's amazing how so many people are into politics now and they came up with saying something about there were people saying that how you were trying to push trump push trump push trump so jordan pulled up this video, one of your shows, where you broke down each time you were talking about what was wrong about his race. Absolutely. And just broke it down piece by

piece. And Jordan said, Dad, you know what? Truth doesn't matter anymore with folks. Nope. People don't care about truth. Nobody cares about the truth. They don't care about facts. Facts no longer exist. I've never pushed Trump. I actually do the opposite. Exactly. But we are in a generation where everyone gets up in the morning, look

on social media and whatever's on there, they identify it as the facts. The headlines. Exactly. No one goes into the body of the story. Everybody is just, well, you know what, this is what the headlines say and that's the reality of it. And so it was like an eye-opener for him of how

I said, Jordan, for over and over again, that one moment took away all those years of me saying, have your own facts. Don't let anybody define for you. You define for yourself. That's right. You know, that's the power of this microphone. That's the power of media. Putting those facts out. We don't control the message.

The message will control us. We got a lot to talk about today. Your city. Today we reported earlier about congestion pricing. What's your thoughts on that? I think it's going to cripple New York City. You got a lot of people. The bridges are already, the tolls are already

high. It's $17 I think for George Washington, $11 for the Midtown tunnels. Parking is extremely high. And now getting into the city, it's going to hurt a lot of people even driving the city. And people are scared of the subways, you know, with everything going on, people getting pushed into the train stations, crime, and people are scared of New York City. That's a lot. Let's unpack this. You've been holding on to a lot.

I have. I have. Let's break it down for a moment. Let's break it down in pieces so we can really understand it. First, let's deal with the stuff about people are scared of the subway. When I became mayor, no one wanted to be on the subway. We got over 4 million daily riders. I was talking to one of my guys. I was talking to her sister the other day.

And she said, you know, we have about 200, 300 crimes happening on the subway system. We have six felonies a day on our subway system out of four million riders. Look at those numbers. Our subway system is a safe system. And we put in a different additional thousand officers to do the high visibility to deal with the reality, because safety is not only felt, it's perceived. So those six felonies we've got to get rid of. We're clear on that. But people are back on our subway system. But when you deal with specifically congested prices,

a lot of people don't realize these are the city streets, but we had no authority on it. Albany passed a law and turned it over to the MTA. This is the MTA's baby. They should have allowed the city to be able to control how congestion pricing was done. So that $15, we were able to fight to get $100 million to deal

with the environmental impact in the Bronx. We were able to fight to get those who are shift brokers to get a discount, those who make less than $50,000 to get a discount. But this was a bill that came out of Albany. So you don't agree with it or do you agree with it no i agree we got to deal with something with the congestion in our city but you don't pass on the cost of that on low income new yorkers or those who have to come to manhattan you may have to have uh go into your chemotherapy and this is the doctor you have to go to you should not be hit over there because all people that live in the area they're

saying that people that actually live in the area, when they drive, if they got to drive uptown to the doctor, they got to drive, they get charged too. I'm not feeling people that live in the area. Central Manhattan, south of 60th Street, has the best transportation system on the globe. You got cross-town trains,

you have south and north trains, you have buses that go across town. There's no place else on the globe that you have the greatest access to public transportation than people south of 60th Street. So I'm not feeling them. If they're saying that, you know, we don't want to pay, you know what, you need to get on the train. I take the train, you know, so you can get on the train. I'm talking about low-income New Yorkers should not have to carry the burden of that. And we ask to have more and a greater input and the shaping of that, but we don't.

People often realize we're creatures of Albany. Albany passed the laws. We have to implement the laws that are down here. Would you join us on that, Ola Yemi? Yeah. I think you're right that there is a difference between perception and fact and how people feel about safety and the way people feel about the subways. And I think it's your own rhetoric about the subways that has a lot to do with why people feel scared, despite the fact that millions of people ride the subway every day without incident.

But you've continued to fear monger about crime in the subways. You've added 2,000 police officers, despite the fact that you've acknowledged that the subways are not that dangerous. And I think there is, you're right, poor New Yorkers should not be the ones who bear the brunt of this, but they will if they already have the subway being turned into a place that they have to fear, that there's a National Guard, that there's a hyper visibility of police, that they're trying to stop people with certain records from even using them. And now you have this congestion price. So how do you reconcile that?

Well, let's let's go before. First of all, I would love to give me give me the quotes on my rhetoric because I'm lost in that. Can you give me the quote that you fear longer about the subway?ways oh you've consistently done that since the day one of your administration one of the first things you did was add a thousand officers to the subway because you claimed that the subways are unrideable you and hokal did this and said how dangerous it is and you recently did that when you deployed the national guard sister but that's not that wasn't my question my question was what was my fear mongering what did i say you continuously say i i could point to a number of videos and quotes and everything from you, but you've said repeatedly that the subways are dangerous, that New York

is dangerous. You complain about crime relentlessly. So what I'm saying to you is, if you are saying that New York is the safest city, it's one of the safest big cities in this country, which is true. And you're recognizing that the subway stations are in fact, not half as dangerous as they're presented to be. I'm saying, how do you reconcile how your rhetoric has played into people's fear? And not even just rhetoric, I would say the actions, because she's right. If you tell us... Which is different. It's the same thing, though. You put a thousand police officers in the subway, two thousand police officers in the subway,

that don't make us feel safe. We think something's wrong if you're doing that. First, let me peel back again, because you've got to always peel back this stuff. You know, because oftentimes how you're depicted in the media that I don't control is how people interpret you. I didn't put the National Guards in the subway. The governor did. I know, but I know what you said.

But you said everything. You stood with Governor Kathy Hochul and you co-signed that decision. You did. And I'm not saying this as someone who's following social media. I'm saying that as an attorney in the city and an activist who follows everything that you do. I'm glad you do. Because then you realize how I turned the city around. If you follow everything I do, you realize that I... I would say no, but we could get to that next. Loosen up your time, man.

It's going to be a long day. And I enjoy every moment of it. That's right. Because this is what I do. When you come with a serious history, if you follow everything I do, you know how long I've been doing this. And you know what my record is. So let's peel back what you just stated. When fear is perceived and felt, that's what fear is. So no matter, as I shared,

that we have six felony crimes a day with four million riders, if people feel unsafe, when we get in the subway system, I ride the subway system and I talk to commuters and I say, what are you feeling and how do I help you with that fear? They say, Erica, we see more visible uniform offices in our subway system. We're going to feel safer. We got it. Oh, let me. Can I? You can talk.

You can peel it back. So we got it that the numbers are down. We got it that we're back on the subway system post-COVID. But when we see, this is what the public is saying, when we see the visible presence of a uniformed officer, we feel safer. Now, you may say, Eric, I don't want to see a visible presence of a uniformed officer. And that's cool, but that's not what the overwhelming number of New Yorkers are saying. And I'm saying to you, the New York City comptroller, Brad Lander,

recently put out a report finding that 50% of the city is disappointed and does not feel safe based on your rhetoric about the subways and your over-police presence. Okay, but sister, first of all, that's not what this says based on Eric's rhetoric. That's not, you can't use it.

No, no, no, no. Did they say based on Eric's rhetoric? Do you want to talk about based on your specific? No, no, sister, I'm going back to what you said because you're an attorney. They have. Did they say based on Eric's rhetoric? They have. The city is, there are, they have'm going back to what you said, because you're an attorney. They have. Did they say based on their regrets? Yes, they have.

The city is... They have multiple reports. The New York Times, the Gothamist, the city comptroller, and the federal monitor who reports who's tasked with making sure that NYPD and Rikers are in compliance with the law have both submitted reports saying that since you became mayor,

there's been a return of stop and frisk, that there have been over 15,000 stops, 97% of whom have been on black and Hispanic people, A fourth of those stops and searches have been unconstitutional and they've yielded very few results. Let's peel it back. Eric Adams, 100 Blacks in Law Enforcement, testified in federal court that the federal court judge stated, based on Eric's testimony, we are going to rule against the police department. We were dealing with a million stops a year when I was with 100 Blacks in law enforcement. My advocacy is what turned it around from that million stops a year. Look at the numbers right now.

I am looking at the numbers. So my advocacy and showing how to do policing correctly, because it's not that you want to eradicate proper police practices. You must make sure they do them right. And that is what I have been able to accomplish in this city, taking over 13,000 guns off the streets of the city of New York who the victims are black and brown people.

When I go to community meetings and talk to community residents, they don't tell me, Eric, we don't want more police. They say, Eric, we want our police doing their jobs correctly. And that is what I'm doing. The federal monitor, the federal monitor who is tasked with ensuring that NYPD is following the law, conducted an analysis, conducted an analysis that happened eight years ago,

but they're still here monitoring what you're doing. And they said that you have brought back stop and frisk policies that are worse than they saw even during the Bloomberg era. But more importantly, they analyzed the neighborhood show me that i could show you the report is available and i know it's been available to you because your spokesperson has commented on it they did an analysis of over 10 precincts 10 different precincts that is factual there's a federal monitor reporting to judge t swain on it and they said that yes listen let me finish so you can peel it back. They conducted an analysis of 10 different precincts, and of the stops of 10 different precincts, they found that 97% of them,

by the way, of the neighborhood safety teams that were disbanded in 2020 because of their disproportionate abuse against black and Hispanic people that you revived, they analyzed 10 of those different neighborhood safety teams and found that they're conducting 97% of their stops on black and brown people and a quarter of them are unconstitutional. That's what the federal monitor said, not me. Yeah. And at the same time, let's be clear on this because what you're giving the perception of, this is a federal monitor that came in long before I was mayor.

Can we agree on that? Yes. They monitor NYPD, not you specifically. You're the mayor. Right. Number two, I have been the mayor for two years and three months. We've had a tradition of over policing for generations. And it's worse now that you're here that I fought for.

We had issues of over policing for generations that I fought for you. We acknowledge what my history is in this place. So two years and three months, we are turning around, not only over policing, but we're turning around the crime. Because when I came to this city, we had a 40 percent increase in crime. And most of that crime, black and brown communities. You became mayor after a global pandemic in which there was record unemployment, business loss, homelessness. And you're not drawing that connection to it. You're making a note.

But what I'm saying is crime is connected to what is happening in the city and the experiences of people. This is the most expensive city in the world. We had a global pandemic where businesses closed and people were out of work. So if you saw crime, it was connected to that. But you're saying also- Highest level of private sector jobs. Come on.

Also, you're saying that you've turned it around, NYPD's abuses. But just last year, we paid out $150 million in settling police misconduct from NYPD, and that was double the number. That's double the number in police misconduct since you became mayor. You know, I noticed something. I noticed how much passion and

commitment you have. It's one of your constituents. And I'm one of my constituents too now. You know what I'm saying? And I grew up in the city. I learned, I noticed, and this is what I hear often of my constituents too now. You know what I'm saying? And I grew up in the city. I noticed, and this is what I hear often of those who articulate when a person in a blue uniform commits an inappropriate act. Balance that with what we're doing to take the violence out of our communities. Because I know what I hear when I go to these community meetings. I know what I hear when I go speak to these mothers who lost their children to violence. I know what I hear.

You are not even talking about that at all. You know, first of all, I was a public defender. New Yorkers don't feel safe. But that's what you said. That's what you said. And my original question was about how you relate to that. You said that New Yorkers don't feel safe. There was a poll that came out last week.

Yeah. Right. Right. feel safer. There was a poll that came out last week. And in that poll that came out by the CBC, it stated that the priorities of Mayor Adams is moving the city in the right direction. My priority. Now remember, two years, three months, brother.

Two years, three months. I inherited a pandemic. I inherited 180,000 migrants and asylum seekers that can't work that we have to house them every day. I'd hear you call. You called for a lot of them, too, though. No, we didn't. Brother, it was a sanctuary city. You told him. OK, let's see. That's why. That's why it's important to have this conversation, because sanctuary city and the migrants and asylum seekers are two different issues.

Sanctuary City, if you undocumented, we can't turn you over to ICE or authority. Migrants and asylum seekers were paroled into here. They're here legally. They were paroled into. But what the federal government did and Governor Abbott did, they said, we're going to send them up to Chicago, New York, Boston. And the federal government is saying, Eric, you can't allow them to work. You've got to give them housing. You can't stop the buses from coming in. You cannot turn them over to ICE. All of that is illegal if I do that with breaking law. So when people look at the migrants that are here, we didn't call people to come here.

They were sent here by Governor Abbott. And the failure to secure our borders is allowing us to continue. And we're not getting any money. We got about $100 million out of a $4 billion price tag. Look at Chicago right now. Look at what's happening in Chicago right now. My brother, Mayor Johnson over there, what's happening with him? Look what's happening in Boston.

Look what's happening in Houston, Los Angeles. And then do a comparative analysis of what's happening on our streets here. Wow. We dealt with that crisis, turned around our economy, outpacing the state in reading and math of our streets here. Wow, we dealt with that crisis, turned around our economy, outpacing the state in reading and math of our young people. I've been on Rikers Island more than any mayor in the history of the city,

talking with inmates and correction officers to turn around what's happening on Rikers Island. I know you go to Rikers in 2022 and there were three deaths back to back because corrections officers left their posts and allowed it to happen. You went to Rikers to express your support for the corrections officer i know you go to rikers no what i do want you to do but you keep you keep giving out misinformation it's not misinformation

i was on rikers island this week this week with a group of 12 young brothers who recommitted themselves to christ i went to see them in the morning. We prayed together because they said, this is not the first time you've been here. You've been here over and over visiting us, talking to us, nurturing us, you know, because I know what it's like to be locked up because I was locked up as a child. I know you are. So I know what it's like to be treated unfairly because I'm dyslexic. When you do an analysis of the number of young

brothers and sisters who are in Rikers or in jail, they're dealing with learning disabilities because they were never given the support that they had. That's why I have dyslexia screening so we can catch people who are thrown overboard before they get thrown overboard. We have a philosophical disagreement.

No, I do like, I'm glad that you brought up Rikers. Your feelings towards, your feelings towards police is different from mine. These are not my, this is not about my feelings to the police. This is about the actual statistics that I presented from the federal monitor monitoring.

What do you say about her statistics though? I mean, these are statistics. These are federal monitor. Do you, are you disputing with the federal monitor and the actual, and the controller? Think about this for a moment.

Controller Brad Lander. Okay, please. We're going to throw people in names of who are independent sources. He should not be one of them. Think about this federal monitor for a moment. The one that was independently elected by the people of New York? But I was independently elected also. And we've been there.

And I'm addressing you. So think about this for a moment. The federal monitor wants to take over Rikers. Okay? Rikers has been dysfunctional for generations. I came in, decreased violence, put in real

incentive programs for young people there, but I didn't do it from a distance. I went to Rikers and walked the halls and talked with inmates. We're doing workshops and support groups with inmates and find out what do you need to be here? We instituted real turnaround programs there with the sisters. That's now the correction officer. I mean, that's the commission of correction there. So I didn't do like other mayors. I didn't sit back and say, let me just turn my back on which Rikers.

I said to those Rikers inmates when I got elected, I'm coming here. I'm going to see what you're going through, and I want to make sure you leave here better than how you got here in the first place. And we started instituting programs to do so. So that same federal monitor, go look at the federal prisons. That federal monitor wanted to take over our prisons after

I had it only two years and three months. No, they wanted to take over my first year, although crime was going, violence was going down. And people say, well, Eric, you know, people are dying on Rikers. Look at how they died. People are coming into Rikers in terrible medical conditions. And not getting their medical appointments.

It's not that they were dying because correction officers were killing them. People were coming in with heart problems. They were overdosing on drugs. When will people in Rikers start to feel that? Because I know I got people that are in Rikers right now serving time, and they hate it. They think it's disgusting. They're trying to read away into it. Who likes shells, brother?

Who likes shells? Respectfully, Mayor Adams, fundamentally, the things that you're saying is untrue. You actually cut $17 million that were used for classes for people at Rikers to reenter society. Those were cut under your administration. Those were cut under your administration. Those were cut under your administration. We were spending millions of dollars. 31 people have died at Rikers since Eric Adams became mayor. We were spending millions of dollars for these professional folks to do these programs, reentry programs.

Millions of dollars, seven people sitting inside the class. When I came into office, I said, wait a minute, why are we spending so much money on programs, but our people are still in these bad conditions? People have profitized poverty. They're making so much money off of black and brown people because it's a lucrative business to come up with all these different programs, all these different ways. And then when you go to them and say, let me see the results of the programs that we're paying you millions of dollars for. And then you look and see, well, who's in charge of these programs?

They don't look like us. Moments ago, you said you instituted programs. And when I brought up the fact that you actually cut programs, now you're anti-program. Okay, 31, at least 31 people have died at Rikers since you became mayor. That's why they're pushing for a receivership program. Fatherless no more. This was this was the this was the brother, the pastor. Fatherless no more is called the program. I would encourage you to come and check it out.

This brother here, instead of saying, pay me millions of dollars to do a program to turn around the lives of our young brothers in Rikers. We're not he doesn't want money. He's committed to the cause, but you have these professional programs that were in place. And when I went to them and say, show me the results of what you've done in these programs, show me what we produce for our millions of dollars. As in many of these programs in the city that I'm saying, we no longer paying y'all to just play us year after year so fatherless no more is turning around the lives of people not being paid millions of dollars for it if we're really true to what we say we want to do

why do we have to pay you millions of dollars to do it you know why don't you come on rikers like i do and volunteer why don't you come and really be committed because people are not committed to us brother they've been playing us. You know, this is a street hustle that have been going on for years. And people have eaten off of the dysfunctionality of watching us stay in these permanent states of being. A lot of people are upset, too. They feel like the prison reform is bad for New York City. They're saying people do crimes. They get out immediately, and then they commit the crimes. We just seen an officer that passed away a couple of days ago, rest in peace to him, and always healing energy to his family. But they say that individual was

arrested for a gun and has a record the size of we don't know what. And they're saying that people are doing crimes and they're getting back out. Officers don't want to arrest people. A lot of officers don't even want to be officers anymore because the people that they're arresting get out so fast. So what do you say to that? And brother, let me tell you something. I say this term all the time. Idealism collides with realism. This far leftist mindset that believes we should not have a criminal justice system in place. We're going to look like some of these other cities that you're seeing with a lack of a criminal justice system in place. We're losing correction offices. We're losing district attorneys. We're losing police officers.

We're losing probation officers. We're losing school safety agents. Every piece of our public safety apparatus that the everyday working class person wants, we're seeing it all of a sudden erode. And we're going to lose the foundation of our prosperity and that's public safety. So when you look at these cases, we have three problems in this city that if you dig into it, you'll see how they continue to intersection between each other.

What are they? We have one, we have a recidivist problem. This is not true. It's a revolving door. 38 people that assaulted transit workers were arrested 1100 times. 545 people that were arrested for shoplifting were arrested 75, 7500 times. The person who shot that police officer, his driver was just arrested for having a gun in April of last year. Now he's back doing the same thing all over again. These guys are arrested 10, 15 times.

It's a small population of people that are repeated offenders. The second problem that we have in the city is a severe mental health problem. I'm not talking about just somebody that's depressed, someone that's going through a bad day. I'm talking about a severe mental health problem. Go look at these cases of assaulting passengers, pushing people on the subway track. The cat that pushed a person on the subway track the other day, in and out of the system. And so when I came into office, I said, we can't keep just walking by these people that are dealing with severe mental health issues.

We need to give them wraparound services and care. The far left pushed against me. Oh, my gosh. You're inhumane. You just want to take people off the streets. No, I said no. issues we need to give them wraparound services and care the far left pushed against me you're inhumane you you just want to take people off the streets no i said no in this city that is not people are not going to live in encampments they're going to live in tents go look at los angeles go look at oregon go look at all these other cities where you see tent city san francisco you see tent cities people when i went out in in January, February, when I got elected in 2022, I went out without my security team and started visiting people in tents and encampments and started talking to them. Bipolar, schizophrenic, human waste, drug power, fanaria, stale food.

They didn't even realize they were in that state. One cat was an ex-police officer that I spoke with, didn't even realize, started seeing and talking to himself. I said, I'm not going to do this. My city's not going to be like San Francisco. It's not going to be like these other cities where you're watching people living on streets in 10th and 10th. You don't see that in New York City. Third problem we have is random acts of violence. Those random acts of violence are being highlighted. If you have 24 hours in a day and something that happens to you in an hour in a day,

you start to define yourself as that entire day. Those random acts of violence are plastered on social media. They're plastic on, on the newspaper page. They plastered on everything. People begin to believe that, I'm living in a city that's out of control. We are not. She made a good point though. If New York, if NYPD is, is repost believe that, oh, I'm living in a city that's out of control. We are not.

She made a good point, though. If NYPD is reposting that kind of stuff, what are we supposed to think? I said at the beginning. Everybody got a phone, brother. No, no. NYPD's page is doing this. It's recently been there, so much so that they're arguing with journalists on there. It's NYPD on their own Twitter pages that are posting and sensationalizing crime.

And I said this at the beginning. You said that there's a difference between perception and reality, how people feel afraid versus how safe New York actually is. And I agree with you, but I said that it's your own rhetoric and NYPD's rhetoric that plays into that. And you did it just now because the reality is a condition of release for everybody, for every crime, whether it be non-bail eligible or bail eligible, is that if you commit a crime and you're rearrested, that you bail can and will be set on you.

So that's the first thing. Second of all, they have conducted multiple studies but the brendan center literally just put out one less than two percent of anybody in new york city that's released on bail is arrest rearrested for any violent crime more importantly in the same in the same breath that we want in the same breath that you want to sensationalize me want to highlight and point out oh an officer was killed the other, which is a rare occurrence across the United States, but let alone in New York. New York police officers have killed at least seven people this year, including a 19-year-old and NYPD officer killed a 19-year-old in Queens yesterday.

I'm not going to dismiss the loss of a life of an innocent person that wears a uniform to protect us. But you do, of the 31 people dead at Rikers, and the 19-year-old killed yesterday. I feel like I don't want to take you out of context and I don't want people to all of a sudden criticize that you've been dismissive of a young man being shot and killed. Mayor Adams, that's not going to work on me. I'm not trying to work anything on you.

I lost a member of the police department the same way I go to see the mother of 11-month-old baby that was shot in the head when I first became a man. I sat in the hospital with her. The same way I go visit these mothers who lose their children to gun violence, I go see them. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete.

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First of all, yesterday I held a right. I represented hundreds. You went to visit the family members of a slain officer? No, not the slain officer. But what about the 19-year-old that was killed yesterday by NYPD in Queens when he called for help? Have you said anything about that? Are you visiting them? First of all, that's... Is New York safer or not? Have you said anything about that? Are you visiting them? Yeah. The the the first of all, that's New York safer or not.

I'm sorry. Is New York safer or not? OK. We just showed the graph that we that we put up. Right. There's there's a graph that shows how many people murders based on one hundred thousand people. It shows a graph each city, the large cities in America. New York is the least. New York is the safest big city in America. Should we say crime is down or should we say it's safe? Because I think it's a difference between saying crime is down and saying something is safe. Insane. Well, randoms actually. If I'm 330 pounds and I lose 30, I'm still fat.

Right, right, right. You know what I'm saying? But random acts. That's why what I must do with New Yorkers is give them the facts, not give them what people are spewing out there. The facts are clear, as I've always stated. We are the safest big city in America. And as people talk about reporting these reports that come out

and reporting how things are done, no one wants to report the fact that everyone is saying across the globe, New York is the safest big city in America. Are we trending the right way, Oleami? I don't dispute that New York is safe. What I dispute is how Mayor Adams' own rhetoric is the reason why people don't feel safe. I agree that New Yorkers don't feel safe because of the way that NYPD, The Post, and Mayor Adams go about sensationalizing crime, and I'm asking you to talk about it differently.

Listen, you have a right to your opinion and your belief. You and I have a philosophical disagreement. That's many. It's not about the philosophical disagreement. Many people on the far left disagree with me. Many people on the far left, they say, Eric, people should be allowed to sleep on the streets no matter what. They should be allowed to sit on your stoop and inject themselves with drugs.

They should be allowed to go in stores and steal whatever they want. They shouldn't have to pay on the subway system. They should be allowed to carry a gun and be able to come out the next day. Like people disagree with me all the time. That is not my opinion. Earlier you asked me to point out specifically what you say. It's a fair monger about crime. So I just would like to say exhibit A, like what you literally just did. You continue to say in this that New York is the safest big city while simultaneously you are the one sensationalizing the crimes i point out which is the facts is it all i know is all i know is when i came in office and i stated that i wanted to take i'm not allowing people to sleep in tents on our streets

they're going to get the care that they deserve the far left attack no we attacked you because you made it so that people could be involuntarily committed people yes and listen if i'm sitting down with you brother and i'm in a tent with you on encampment and i'm seeing human waste in the corner i'm seeing stale food i'm seeing drug power for now and i'm hearing you talking about you only here until the spaceship comes to take you to your next planet you need to be involuntary committed didn't i just say about sensationalized kinds of stories this is what i saw this is what i saw this is what i saw you were there around because the activists that were actually there

at the encampments you had torn down you weren't there but they were there when they were being arrested people are also upset that they feel like too much money's going to migrants and you're cutting too many programs right they're saying you're cutting the pre-k 170 million they're saying that you're cutting uh so many, right? They're saying you're cutting the pre-K funding. $170 million in pre-K funding. They're saying that you're cutting so many different funding for other people. Love that. Love this question, brother. People are feeling like they never have money for us, but

as soon as migrants come into the country, they find money. And listen, people have a right to be angry. You know who's even more angry than they are? I am. I've been to Washington 10 times. 10 times to talk about this subject. So people got a right to be pissed off of what they're doing to New York City. How can we fix that?

I mean, we cut a lot of programs. 170 million to pre-K. One day these kids couldn't go to school because migrants took over the school. No, that wasn't accurate. Okay, break it down. First, let's deal with that. We always utilize our school buildings during a time of crisis.

And if we're saying to ourselves that there's some when we had the major fire, when I first became mayor and we saw that fire in the Bronx, you know, we had to take a school to take care of those people who lived in the building temporarily. When we have major storms, we take a school to use it temporarily. Schools is part of the resources of the city. And thank God we have something called remote learning where people still, young people are still able to go on to learn. But we can't say that we will use a school building during an emergency, but we're not going to do it for children that are

migrants and assignment seekers. You publicly oppose remote learning and remote work. Here are the things that are crucial about the migrant assignment seekers that we need to put to rest that people don't realize. Number one, I don't have the legal authority to stop the buses from coming in. That's against the law. I don't have the authority to allow them to work, which they want to do. That's against the law.

I don't have the authority to say I'm not going to house you and give you three meals a day. It's against the law for me to do it. I don't have the authority to deport someone that commits a crime here in this city and turn them over the ice. That's against the law. So what we had to do was figure out how do we house people? And so some people say, whatever you give in the morning,

what you're giving us, go to the Herc centers where they are, the shelters, the restrooms outside. The showers are outside. They're sleeping on cots. They get three basic meals a day. And when I go visit them, they said, we don't want any of this from you. All we want to do is have the right to work so we can provide for ourselves. In less than 30 days, migrants won't be allowed to work per federal guidelines and they won't be allowed to be housed in NYC anymore.

So where would they go after that? They find their way out of the 184,000, 60% of them found their way. Like many of us have done. You notice you don't hear about them. They don't get housing in 30 days. Many of them, we should be giving them intense care.

We're not just telling you, come here, hang out for 30 days and we're not going to help you no in those 30 days and if you're a young person you can 60 days but in those 30 days or 60 days we're giving you intense care we're showing you how to find your way in our city we're showing you how to go about applying for housing how to go about applying for the services that you need. And some people are saying we never wanted to come to New York at all. We want to come to another city. But Governor Abbott said, no, we're sending you to New York. Think about this for a moment. We got thousands of Ukrainian migrants, thousands.

Do you hear about them? No. Just Mexican and Africans. They have the right to work. So so we wouldn't even be having this conversation if we gave them the authority to work. You know, the real irony of this. We need workers. I need lifeguards. I need full service workers. Many of these migrants from Venezuela are nurses and other professionals. I need people to backstretch workers. Other states are telling me, Eric, we will take the migrants and asylum seekers if they just allow them to work. We're not going to take them and just have them sit around every day. If they're allowed to work, we would take

them. The national government She agrees with you. I agree with you that migrants should be able to. She agrees with a lot of stuff. No, I trust you that I do not believe. She's on that train. I'm sitting here, Mayor Adams. She's going to be dialing 911. First of all i ride the subway every day i've worked as a public defender in this city and represented thousands

of people so please spare me no i'm not you think more police make make people feel safe especially black and brown no they don't no black and brown people yes brother oh my god i i go to i just had a town hall i just had a town hall yesterday all these black and brown folks inside that town hall. Number one issue they came up with. We want to feel safer. We want more cops on our corners. People want to feel safer. It doesn't mean they want more cops.

And if they did, New York City has the most police in the country. We have the largest police department in the country. How many more police do you want, Mayor Adams? You go do an analysis across this city in communities of color and ask them i live in flat do you want us to take your police away or do you want more police i guarantee you you will be lost to find someone and what about when you add resources to that list do you want more resources to get to the root of these issues that's what people want think about the resources resources we've done. Check out what we've done. Advocates, the far left, they have been calling for

summer youth employment for years. We gave them $100,000. Never been done before in history. Never. They've been calling for investment in NYCHA. We put NYCHA as our top program. When I was doing COVID, I was knocking on doors, handing out masks to NYCHA residents because the city refused to do so, and people were saying, why are you giving masks to those people? When I would knock on the doors, I would ask the residents,

how are your children doing in school? They said, Eric, we don't even have high-speed broadband. I said, when I get elected, we're going to change that. Now, NYCHA residents all have free high speed broadband so their children can have access like other children. We are doing the NYCHA land trust. No one was able to do it. We put more people in affordable housing using the voucher system than the history of the program. We've transitioned more people out of shelter into housing in one year in the history of the program. We've transitioned more people out of shelter into housing in one year

in the history of the city. When I went to do an analysis with all of my gang members and I asked them the question, you know, how many of you have learned disabilities? How many of you are dyslexic? All of your gang members? That's what you decided to characterize them? I meet regularly with people who are

You kick it with the gangs? I meet regularly with people who... you met up with some drug dealers at Burger King. I'm glad you brought that up. Let me just finish this one piece because this is important. We noticed when we did the analysis across the country, not only in New York, across the country, 30 to 40 percent of the of the inmates in jail and in prison have a learning disability. So when I sat down with the chancellor, I said, listen, we can't wait until people thank you until until people break the law. We did dyslexia screening in our schools and we were able to now catch it and give them the wraparound services they need. So I want to talk about Burger King. So I'm sitting at home, and I look at the paper. They said there's drug dealers selling drugs in front of Burger King.

So I call up the precinct commander. I said, what is this? We don't have an open drug market. He says, Mayor, we did a complete operation, buying bus, went to see what drugs they're they selling who's selling drugs he said these guys are not selling drugs these guys are homeless and they just come to feel as though they could be around others so what i went on sunday i went down and did what other people don't do i spoke with them i said brothers can we sit down and talk let me find out how you know what's

going on in your lives we sat in burger king had a conversation sharp brothers so they weren't even drug dealers no okay they were not drug dealers they were just homeless brothers that just wanted to be a place where people they could communicate among others like other folks do when people have dog parks and people sit on the steps of a museum and so we sat there and had a conversation and we were able to identify what services and what I learned from them. You could have all the services you want, but if people don't know the entry ramp to those services, then what good is it? So now we're going to devise a program that they're going to help me devise on how to reach out to those services. Then I want those brothers to become recruiters, to go inside the shelters.

But you're not going to do that if you are afraid to get on the ground and have these one-on-one conversations. I've been here, man. You know, I know what it is to buy a nickel bag and make a joint so mommy can feed herself. I know what it is to run numbers. I know what it is to do all those things. So I'm comfortable among my folks. And the problem that a lot of people don't understand is they don't know how authentic I am about this work. But they're going to look back over it and say, we had a mayor that came from us and delivered for us even the billions of dollars that I'm putting into MWBEs that we've never had before.

People are going to look back over these years and say, this brother was real about what he's doing because that's why I'm doing it. I see you people wrapping up. Two more questions. How do debit cards for migrants compare to New York City welfare benefits? I like that. That's a good question because that was one of the biggest myths and I think the Daily News just did a piece today of saying why this makes sense.

So here's what happened. We were paying people because by law we got to feed them three meals a day. We got to feed the migrants three meals a day. When I told the team, we got to bring down the cost of this by 30% because it was costing us too much money, $12 billion over three years, $4 billion already. One of the places was food. We were seeing that we were having a 10% food waste. People were getting food they didn't want, and they discarded it. One of the places was food. We were seeing that we were having a 10% food waste.

People were getting food that they didn't want, and they discarded it. So my team came together, First Deputy Mayor Sheena Wright, first black woman to be a First Deputy Mayor. She came up with a team called Mocify, M-W-E, Black Product. They said that we can give people food carts where they can only purchase food and baby supplies. You will save $600,000 a month in course. People will buy the food that they want and not giving it to them from someone from some large conglomerate. Then they will have to spend the cards in the bodegas, the supermarkets, the local stores, so the money stays inside the community, and the program is run by a person of color. We're saving over $7 million a year.

We have no more food waste because people are buying what they want. It's a black-owned company, so we're putting money back into our black businesses, like I said I was going to do and you cannot buy anything but food or baby supplies it's a complete win but people heard it and it was sensationalized oh you're giving money to migrants they only get 13 a day for the three meals it's a winning program is it a win it's not that i have a problem with it it's that again the sensationalism has a lot to do with the fact that you got up and declared that we have this migrant crisis and i thought it was interesting your earlier point about the difference between how It's that, again, the sensationalism has a lot to do with the fact that you got up and declared that we have this migrant crisis.

And I thought it was interesting your earlier point about the difference between how Ukrainian migrants are being received versus migrants, black and Latino migrants. Because, again, you gave a town hall where you were the one who gave this speech and like you incentivize New Yorkers to feel this way. Feel which way? This feel like there is a migrant crisis where the migrants are being treated differently than them where they're getting resources that the migrants are getting resources that are not being given to them because you were the one who presented it to the city that you had to cut budgets across because of the migrant crisis even though recently uh you decided that you all actually do have the money to handle the migrant issue that just wasn't publicized as much so this goes back to my original discussion you're an attorney and I'm amazed. I think your art is

I'm just going to throw it out there and make people feel that way. Mayor Adams, before you say it, there's an entire council that knows you're lying. Sister, let me we still don't have the money for the migrants. We've spent $12 billion in three years. $4 billion already.

What I said to New Yorkers at that town hall, this issue will bankrupt, will destroy our city. This issue. You called specific countries. I remember you calling the countries that the migrants were from. They weren't the Ukrainian migrants. You weren't talking about them. So what happened when we don't have money?

Hold on. Sister, I did not call the countries where they were from. I went to the countries. It's on video i went to the country i went to ecuador colombia mexico to get a full understanding of the flow i went to the southern border just as i went to those brothers in burger king i went to the southern border to understand the problem i remember you started that tour before you were going to go to go dc and uh when you were going to go to dc to buy to talk to joe biden about the migrant crisis but you were stopped because they had the fbi had to take

your phones good lord you just make up stuff and then i make that up that's that's reported the fbi didn't seize your phone sister the fbi didn't seize your phones no they didn't investigate your top aides that's not happening what did you just say you just i said i remember the tour that you went on when you were going to the border when you and when I come back? I came back because somebody had to take my phone? Because it stopped. I said I remember on the day of. I remember it because it was recorded. Well, you got amnesia.

Oh, me and the news. Me and the media. No, no. Your phones weren't seen. This is important. This is important. I want you to understand. I want you to understand the hypocrisy of people.

When the law enforcement does something every day it's bad but when they do something against eric adams oh it's good i didn't say that it was good i don't think it's good that our mayor is being investigated for illegal campaigns i don't think that i came back because of not that they had to take my phones. That is not true. I said it happened that day. No, it did not happen that day. I said it was reported before you were going.

It wasn't reported. Yes, it was, Mayor Adams. It was reported wrong. Did the FBI seize your phone? Did they search your top eight? Not that day. Did they search the home of several people? Yes. Okay, that's what I said.

And I didn't say that was a good thing. I don't think it's good that our mayor is being investigated by the FBI. So what happens when New York City doesn't have the money for migrants? And then, you know, the migrants are in this city and they probably have to do what most poor people have to do, which is sometimes resort to crime. How is that going to make the city safe? Right.

And that's part of the problem. Imagine having a group of people 18 to 24 years old and being told you can't do anything all day when you go when you go to these hercs and you're seeing these young people and i walk in and i talk with them some of them come from west africa south america central america all they're saying is man we we just want to work we don't want to sit around here all day and not do anything that is why the real focus should be on our national government that's saying,

why are you doing this in New York? Check out what they're doing. They're doing it to New York. They're doing it to Chicago. They're doing it to Los Angeles. They're doing it to Houston. What is the same in all those cities? All black men.

All black men. And so what we're saying same thing that I'm going through here my brother

Johnson is going through my sister Bass is going through my brother

Turner is going through so our folks what they wanted to happen

Governor Abbott wanted to happen we're going to turn these cities

against their mayors we're going to create this environment where they're all going against their mayors go google're going to create this environment where they're all going against their mayors. Go Google what they're doing to my brother in Chicago. Go Google what they're doing to Sister Bass.

So the cities have now turned against these black mayors that are making real change for the first time. And they're using this to say, okay, these black mayors are not confident. They can't run their cities. They're getting everything to say okay these black mayors are not competent they can't run their cities

they're getting everything to the migrants and asylum seekers this was a perfectly executed plan that we are buying into to make black mayors look bad and when we're doing just the opposite I inherited a city that was in disarray disarray

you know and you no matter how much you do your analysis, you got to walk away with this brother got more private sector jobs in the history of the city. We reached that point. This brother had his bond rated increase, 40 percent increase in crime. When I came in with now drop those crimes, 13000 guns removed off our city, outpacing the state in reading and writing for our children in the public schools school system 62 million tourists are back here more housing vouchers you go down the list invest in niger you go down the list you're seeing a brother that managed the city that people said was unmanageable and we did it in two years and three months it's my last question do you believe the biden administration's border policies have fueled the worst border crisis in U.S. history? In

New York, you said New York history or in America history? I'll leave it at New York. I think it definitely impacts us, but I think it's an accumulation of what the White House is failing to do and the Republican led Congress is failing to do and other administrations. People don't

want to deal with the fact that we need real immigration reform. And let me tell you what this should look like. Do you know right here in our country where we are decreasing the population in many cities? We're hurting for people in many cities. When people come across the border, the national government should say, you're going to go to this city where we need populations. Stay there for three years and then you can go anywhere you want in the country. We need to use this crisis as an opportunity our cities are hurting in kentucky they're hurting for backstretch workers in the racing industry we should be saying you

want to come here you're going to go to kentucky you're going to stay for three years you're going to learn how to be in the country and work that's how we should do it. Instead of just saying, go wherever you want and allowing this to be politicized by the, by the, the governor of Texas and say, we're going to now, we're going to hurt Chicago, hurt New York, hurt Los Angeles, hurt Philadelphia. We just got a sister who's, was the, was the elected mayor. The day she was being sworn in, a plane of migrants were coming in. None of them was coming before. No migrants was going to Los Angeles until Bass

became mayor. When the first female black mayor became mayor, when she became mayor, they said, let's start sending them to Los Angeles. They're playing us, man. They're playing us. You know that? I respect any elected official who can come have this conversation, because these are the tough questions.

Without a doubt. Without a doubt. What can y'all do to work together? We should. Yeah. Because no matter. Both of y'all care. Yeah. Without a doubt. You know, it's interesting you said that because when I was when I was in, you know, I'm in rooms with folks and I walk out of those rooms and I say, you know what, we both disagree, but we both love the city and love our people. We have to separate the 10% of disagreement and focus on the 90% that we agree. You agree that our children should be educated. You agree that our brothers, when they get, my sisters, when they get out of rikers should come out better

than what they went in you agree that we should be saved you agree that no mother should have to lose their child to over policing or to someone who is discharging a gun you we agree on many things the 10 that we don't agree on then listen let's debate that. But there's 90% of the stuff. We agree that black women should be able to go through their school system and get into some of these employments, like first man in history that had five women deputy mayor. First man in history, Dominican, Filipino, African American, Trinidadian, you know, first man in history that has a person of color.

That's the police commissioner, correction commissioner, first man history that have done so many things. I know retrospectively I'm going to be appreciated as a mayor that lived up to what I said I was going to do. I'm not going to do that now. You know, people always crap on us when we in the ring. But when my when my gloves are hung up, people look at, listen, that was an authentic, ball-headed, earring-wearing brother that did his thing as the mayor of the city of New York. The most important city on the globe is being run by a person who is dyslexic, arrested, rejected, and now I'm elected to be the mayor of the city. Well, there you have it.

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