The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Michael Blackson Talks Honest Open Relationships, Respecting His Women & Why America Is Fvcked
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Every day I wake up.
Wake your ass up.
The breakfast club.
Do y'all finish or y'all done?
morning everybody is dj nvv just hilarious charlemagne the guy we are the breakfast club long la rosa's here as well
we got a special guest in the building donald trump's favorite african oh my goodness michael blacks and
ladies and gentlemen welcome what's up mike how you feeling man good morning brother
how you think i'm don't trump favorite african got to be you don't think so you know what i'm
oh elon musk you know what you're right wow elin musk didn't michael black no i'm all about
whoever's in office, you've got to work with them, one way or another.
And I see you guys, I mean, I see DL killing Trump every day.
I'm like, listen, that's not going to help us.
You want to help us?
Tell this nigga what we need.
Don't go bashing him and all that stuff.
I'm all about whoever is in office, try to get whatever you get out of them.
Instead of just killing him every day and making fun, you know, going hard on them.
It's not going to help it.
I know DL then reached out to you a few times.
Yeah, he did.
I know.
And that goes back.
So even Africa, like, you know, in Africa, the leaders are the ones in charge.
They are the rich ones.
They're the one that you have to, like, work with if you won't get anything done, you know?
That just had my confidence ban.
So I just kept that same energy anywhere I go.
Who I wasn't offered you got to find a way to work with them.
You can't just go, you know, bashing them every day.
You're not going to get shit out of them that way.
You get a lot of flag for that?
For what?
For your opinion on Donald Trump and how you can.
I mean, I don't talk much about it online because my fan base are like, you know, majority young black people.
and what's my fan basis?
I try to keep that, you know,
give some stuff to myself.
Well, how were things at home?
You just had another baby?
Well, I mean, I haven't had one 18 years,
so all of a sudden, you know, a new one comes out.
18 years, your twins are 18?
Twins turned 18, and we're going to college, yeah, man.
You were his big, mother six years ago when they came here.
Wow.
So you just got off child support, man.
Just finally flinged my last payment,
the whole new nigger comes out.
But you know, the thing, here's the thing with child support,
you know, having kids.
When you're 25, 26 years old,
you know, you were struggling.
I think, man, money is not an issue.
So when money's not an issue,
nothing bothers you.
I think the most important thing is money.
Yeah.
And, you know, I don't have money problems anymore.
What, listen, what made you want to start over?
I mean, I didn't want to start over.
I mean, I just got lazy with my polo game.
Damn.
I didn't want, you know what?
So the baby was, you know, my,
the twins, it was really,
bad experience as
you know
co-parent with the mom
we had a really big
we couldn't get along
with the court fighting
we're fighting from the day
they were born
all the way to like
18 years old
it was really bad
you know what I mean
and Rada didn't believe
how bad it was
till like the last six years
I had to take over
the family wizard
so when you are in family court
and you can't get along
with your other
there's a app
called Family Wizard
where you communicate
on the app
there's a family app
where you communicate
where you don't have to talk
to this lady
and then but the court watches it so it's like what's that for like baby mommas and baby daddy
yeah exactly but you i mean court is over now so i could say it now but i had uh i say you know
what rider you don't believe you think i'm the problem i'm gonna have you act like you or me
and you communicate with this lady and she found out what a multiplic what's it what i'm looking for
meticulous no manipulative yeah that's i went to public school you up there excuse me
and she found out she's like damn this one was really nice so i had a communication with
her for the last five years. I'm like, you know what? I'm paying you to talk to this lady.
I don't want to talk to her. And then she realized that I wasn't a problem. You know, I just had
a really crazy, you know, I don't want to talk much about the big mom. Because after all,
she did a great job raising my boys, you know, eight students in college. And I'm very proud
of him. And that's one good thing she did. But she did ruin the bond that I had with my boys.
I mean, at least the last five, six years. Really? Because y'all were always together.
I was always together. But I mean, you got the point when she got remarried.
I got married, not real married, because I never married her, thank God.
When she got married, and when the relationship was over,
she went back to the end of my nerves again.
That's why, please, it's always best, like,
let them find some dick.
Because dick comes woman down.
You know what I mean?
Like, me and me and Rada were arguing,
I'll give her some dick, and then she backed her loving
and being normal again.
And Rada is still your fiancé.
Are you going to marry her?
You got engaged up here.
You got engaged up here.
Yeah, I did, I didn't get engaged your pair.
Well, she said engagement is expired.
Not she needs a new ring, okay?
Right.
But I mean, every time you look, somebody getting divorced every day, I'm like, you know,
why don't be part of this divorce?
So you're just going to keep proposing?
Yeah, we just keep proposing.
So we're looking for a new proposal coming up soon.
So y'all are in their relationships.
That wasn't that long ago, 2021.
Yeah, we're still together.
Because you know the back of work that you had online and kind of confused people because,
well, you y'all, you had to come out too when she posted it like, she's like,
she's alone, she walks alone, or talks alone sometimes, and then you reacted,
then you reacted, then you retracted with you reacted.
you reacted with and you talked about facetiming her from the road and that was a um well that was
about something else and i'm not ready to talk about yet yeah you know about i'm not going to say
she's using postpartum as an excuse you know because the way she made it same and me i don't
try not to reach too much comments you know i just knew when it came out i had people hit me
like yeah why she acting like you know they're not there for her yeah like you know so i
would i mean reading comments or even reading her text message i went in the defense mode and like you know
him like don't talk shit about the hands that feed you whatever and i kind of that's probably i went
little hard you know but we recently i was bored the last couple of years and i you know i did the
i did the um the tv show at tarbury studios which is a four episode pilot and now we've been waiting for
like when we won't do this again because this show is probably the most amazing thing and i've done
and i'm like okay he said we're going to do it again we just waiting i said well i'm waiting i'm
taking something else i took on love and hip-hop miami and it's actually coming out november
And I'm like, oh, I know you're going to love him on my name.
Congratulations, Michael.
Thank you.
I completely took over the show.
Like, the Mike's, I'm pretty much called the Michael Blackson show.
Nice.
So I took on to that.
So I said, you know what?
Now you're going to become a reality star or real reality star.
And to make it in reality, people like to know what you're going through.
So I, you know, and my reply was more to like, you know what?
Let me make a little bit more famous.
Let me go online and just talk shit and let her reply back.
Let's go back and forth to make a, and that which you can make, I say you can make a whole lot of money,
being reality so after the fact i told i said listen it was i wasn't this can come a bad place i'm more
trying to like help you become reality famous that's why i was i was hoping we went back and forth
you know i didn't tell it let's go back and forth my purpose i were hoping we went back and forth but
you know my team like my you know postpartum is a very serious thing so don't play with it on
talk about you know you just have to you know you got to be there for her but do you think
with her, if she is, you know, going through
postpartum depression, is she okay with film?
You think she's going to be cool on the show?
I mean, the show is a lot more going to come on.
Did you? Y'all shot the show right, right?
Yeah, we started already.
They started, but it goes on, we didn't finish.
It goes on through January and then they decide, you know,
on the next season.
But it's a lot more coming on the show
that probably had something to do with the postpartum thing.
I can't talk about it
I'm a room in the show
What did you mean when you said
If you think making a baby with me
would turn me into Russell Wilson
You better try again by the soccer
Well you know
Come of Russell real saying
Everyone must drink
And maybe instead
She ended with her Stefan Dix instead
You got a new baby on the way
That Cardi hopes he'll be there for
Michael was that
Jesus
She picked the wrong football player
Mom
What the fuck I got to do with this
God
Well
Well, I mean, she knew from the door, well, who Michael Blackson was.
You know what I mean?
So who is Michael Blackson?
When it comes to the ladies?
I mean, and then when I became honest with myself, which was after I broke up with the girl before, rider.
And I realized that I just can't be with one person, and I've been honest from the door.
You know?
Is it the African in you?
I don't know what it is.
You need to have more than one wife?
I mean, one wife might be, I mean, I'm not, you know.
I mean, to have more than one wife
is either a religious thing
or some type of a chief
there's a lot of have that. I mean, I love to have
more than one wife, but it's, that sounds like
a lot of problem, you know.
I'm okay.
You don't want to marry nobody. You just want
to have them there. I just, I mean,
I don't mind having a one
great woman that I know has my back
and she's the one. She's the one that has my back
and does everything for me and
do things right. But once in a while,
you know, I like to do
whatever. Is she okay with that?
yeah now I remember there was a contract that y'all had in place you also have a contract
because remember on that show that we did before you did love hip-hop right the relationship show
there was like an agreement where you're like look she gave you a certain amount of women that
you can have out the month and then once you exceed that quota you in the dog it was some type of
yeah because she was compromise it was like once a month but once a month yeah it was once a month
I mean I kind of like start doing two three times a month okay but I what I try to do I try to
keep it you know very simple me like two three girls and I'm that I knew I'm
familiar with instead of picking up strangers you know you pick up strangers wake
up in the morning your Rolex is going you know shit is going so and that's the
part that and we still arguing about that to today because most of the chicks that
I mess we had been around for like four or five years and she felt like that's
a relationship as well oh what if you had work in Ghana you got working gun what do
you mean ladies you got a um I had I had somebody in Ghana
somebody
so just one person
I had somebody
got it
but she's a little
scam
potential scam
I'm not sure
she's suspect
I'm not
you know
she got his reputation
she got your credit
no no
she's just full of shit
man I don't want to get into detail
but let me ask you
I don't want you take this wrong way
but everything going on with Diddy
you didn't say you know what
I don't want to have these multiple relationships
outside of my relationship
I'm just saying because
No, no, no, no, that's what I'm saying.
It's like, because you, with all these women and now, all it takes you want women to be like.
You put two, three, the whole lot.
That's a whole lot.
Two, three, a month is a lot.
No, it's the same people.
He rotate the same women.
He's the same people.
You never want them to be like, oh, no, I keep my circle clothes.
I try to keep my circle clothes and intimate.
That way it knows.
And I'm very, I treat every woman with respect.
I think that's the most important thing.
You choose them respect and always have receipts.
You always have receipt.
And I have a nephew that plays in the NFL and I got a lot of young guys that plays in NBA.
And I tell my soliciting, guys, be careful.
You need receipt for everything you do.
If a girl comes and visit you, you know, you walk that girl to the elevator.
You give a hug.
The camera's always watching.
And when she gets home, text, hey, make sure you got home to say, always keep a receipt.
You know, never leave room for anybody to accuse you of anything.
You know, how your rape is going to hug you at the elevator, nigger.
You know what I'm saying?
So besides that, I treat everyone, every person that I'm with, I treat them well and respectful.
And, you know.
Holy me guys.
That's the key, man, you got to treat women right.
Be honest, be honest, and treat them white.
But see, that was the thing that Rada had a problem with,
because she's like, yo, why are you so nice to the girls that?
I know you got to two and three, but she's like, yes,
that's where it feels like a relationship
because you're keeping contact, keeping in contact with these girls
after you're saying, you only say them a few times out the year,
but like, you take care of them.
Like, you're taking them to breakfast.
That's what she was bent to me about.
She's like this.
But you just don't need to eat?
Damn.
You know what I'm saying?
That was one issue we had with her most hated side chick of mine.
Oh.
It was in Vegas and I was playing at this particular casino and they offered me like dinner and like STK or whatever.
And I'm like, okay, I took her to go eat.
That's a nice-ass restaurant show.
And then, you know, the manager of the club happened to be a good friend's router.
And then this nigger like, you know,
doing some
fucking guy cold shit
texting right of here
Mike is here
with another
another
that's his girl though
you're looking out by her
what I did
you know
and that's your girl too
even when I'm in public
I don't like being public
with another woman
alone
because I would hate somebody
to pictures
and get online
so I always make sure
I invite two or three
whether there's
homies or girls
I make sure it's more
than just me
and this person
so one of my homies
I invited one of my homies
come to have dinner
I say I'm gay
come on me
SDK, rich
come on me
so it's even me him and her
you know ben and he like this little
Middle Eastern motherfucker texting her
his niggas here with another woman
so we're sitting there this month
trying to sneak video to send to her
and then the girl caught on to her like
cursing him out in the restaurant
you know and it was a bigger scene
it became a much bigger scene
SDK is a big deal though man
they got the bag of donuts and the truffle
fries and the freaking waggoo
yeah come on this man you can't be going
He's snitching.
You don't go snitching.
Will you snitching another nigga, man?
Would I?
Yeah.
Um, I don't know.
It depends.
Like, you said that was his home girl, though.
Yeah, but still, you know what I mean?
Like, I'm not, I won't put that kind of stress on my home girl.
Was he Ye?
No, no, he wasn't getting.
You're good, right?
Because that's what was.
Yes.
Yes.
I do got a question.
Now, you said you were in loving hip-hop Miami.
Who else was on the cast?
Because you need a cast member.
Same thing.
You know, it's trick.
the idea of course it's still there you got trainers there Amara is still there
so you're the new you don't I'm like I'm the new one me um of course um Rada now
I'm gonna watch yeah it's me very interesting my all this that sure really
fuck my life up I'm gonna why I decided to do it why but you know what you
walking into before you get there Michael you know why was I bored man so why to
fuck your life up especially being the two in the world I'm not yeah I got
pay me a lot of money to let me tell you I would the feel why he's gonna watch we
You're going to watch.
It comes out in November, right?
November, yes.
Yeah.
Did you really miss the birth of your son because you went to go get coffee?
Yeah, so.
Jesus.
Yeah, I did.
So, mind you, I wanted this kid to be born on Monday.
I went to this kid to be born on Monday.
I'm Kojob.
Cojoop is you're born on Monday, you're a co-jop.
So the goal was to be born on Monday.
So we did Monday all day went for his little nigger to come out.
There's little African, Chinese nigga to come out, right?
And I'm like, it's freezing in a hospital.
I hate the code.
You know, I'm African one-blooded.
It's over the night.
Now when the money's over, not Tuesday.
Now they got a whole new name now.
You know, because Tuesday, you're like,
Quabena.
That's the name for the boy if you're Tuesday.
For the Quabena, it's no disrespect to any Ghanes are there
with Quabena name.
You know, in fact, one of my homies who's
ex-president's son-in-law, his and Miss Quabina.
He actually lives in Jersey.
And shout out to you, but I'm not named my son,
Quabena.
It just sounds too, you know.
Tuesday.
Who what?
It sounds too Tuesday
It's too girly
Coabena sounds girly
So now we don't miss fucking Monday
We miss Coja
And now this nigga's Quabina
I'm like
When this Quabana come to fuck out
You know what I mean
So I'm waiting
It's freezing and then
I'm like
I'm going to grab me something
To get out of head
Go grab something to eat
To drink
Whatever I'll be back
And I left out
The hospital
drove like 20 minutes
To go find something to eat
You drove
You didn't even walk
Oh no hell no
I drove
Got in the car
Drove
We ain't got something to eat
And now
and then she texted me like hey the baby might be coming soon I said okay no problem
let me put this hospital name in the GPS and I put it in GPS pull up and is the wrong
hospital I get to find out there's six of this fucking name hospital has six different
there's six locations with the same name so now I'm even further away as soon as I walk in a
hospital the nigga already out he's crying with a little breath mark on his stomach and
what really happened Michael what was her name damn seriously I was in a whole different
I was in Arizona.
That's where she lives.
It wasn't home for me.
I ain't got no bitches in Arizona.
You really was mad, upset.
Like, you know, like the cold hospital.
I stepped out to get some heat and just go.
It was so cold.
When I got in the car, I didn't even turn the air on.
It was 100 degrees in Arizona.
Yeah.
And I kept the motherfucker air off.
I just wanted some heat bag in my fucking body.
And I came back and I went through the wrong hospital.
Would you have a show there that weekend or something?
No, I just went there for the baby's birth.
She lives there.
She live, okay, yeah, we have a place in Arizona.
That's where she's that.
That's what she says.
Yeah, yeah, we don't live together.
What do you mean?
What do you say it like that?
Oh, time out.
I need my space.
Why y'all don't live together, man?
This is 20, 25, man.
She's going to be all right when she see this interview?
The way you talk.
She's, you know, she's, she's, yeah.
So you live in Florida.
She lived in Los Angeles.
So y'all don't live with each other at all?
Never live together.
She comes over, you know, I go over there.
Because you and you, you.
You asked for her hand in marriage.
Yeah, I mean, we got it together.
But he asked for her hand in marriage because she wanted to get married.
He didn't want to ever get married.
How do you know that, nigga?
You told me on the show, this is what it is.
We have therapy on the show.
We live in different, you know, I prefer living.
So how often do you visit?
We see each other quite often, at least every, at least every other week.
California, Arizona is right there.
Miami.
I have a house back in east in Delaware.
And Ghana, so we're all over the place.
You got a house in Delaware?
Yeah, I was raised in Philly.
I built my house in Delaware like 2007.
When we'd be in the mall, you live, oh, I'm not going to say.
But when I used to work in the mall.
She's from Delaware.
Yeah, people used to always be like,
Michael Blackson was just in here.
We'd be like, no, he wasn't.
I'd be like, yes, he wasn't here all the time.
So we just never see you, but we moved there.
You got women in Delaware?
You never had no work in Delaware?
I did one point, but not in serious.
My work is mostly like L.A.
Got you.
You screwed your face up.
Delaware and got some bad.
I mean, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't hang out at the Delaware clubs, you know, I didn't hang out at the Delaware clubs, I didn't see, I didn't see. I didn't see. I didn't hang out at the dollar. I mean, the mall you probably could see something here and there, but I didn't have no, nobody. Why would you post the baby with a picture of, George Jefferson? George Jefferson and Chico Bean. Why would you do that to him?
All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie.
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I'm still waiting for the old infant
to hear to grow up, man.
I'm like, this baby looked like he was born with a freaking 200 credit score.
This thing big, people like he's struggling, going through two divorce.
Now, he's very adorable.
She said me, you know, when I'm not there, I get a video every day.
His hair is slowly growing back.
But I think that whole headline thing is it's a Ghana thing for some reason.
Like most babies and boys in Ghana are born were like this receding headline and eventually your hair comes back.
You know, so hopefully his shit would come out sooner or later.
Congratulations, too, for all the investing you're doing back in Ghana, man.
That's dope, yeah.
You built to school.
I see what's the got, Treasure Island?
What about Treasure Island?
Is that yours?
No, that's not nothing.
Oh, I don't know why people were saying that was yours.
No, no, me and DC Young Fly was planning on doing a retreat of Treasure Island.
Nice.
That's what that was.
You got you got you got that.
No, no, no.
I mean, the school was something I always wanted to do back when I was going back home 20 years ago.
I just had to figure it out how I was going to get it done.
And when I finally did it, I said to myself, oh,
God, this is what a legacy is.
I didn't know what legacy was prior to that.
I walked there and I see my name on the school
and I see the kids are happy.
And again, free education, free this and free that.
And I felt like my legacy is finally complete.
You know, I feel like it don't matter what happened to me now.
I'm like, I feel like I've done something
that would be taken away.
No, that's big.
And you hear right now because you hear it for the New York
Comedy Festival?
Yeah, my first time doing something, this mainstream.
That's dope.
I've never been a mainstream guy.
I'm more, you know, I mean, I've never,
they never really gave me the opportunity
to do something like this.
So shout out to the crew, Greg,
and the rest of the crew from Carolines.
You know, the only one to put this together.
I heard as a partner of it as well.
Okay.
So I'm excited about doing it.
Why do you think you never got those opportunities?
You know what?
It just now been my thing, you know?
But don't get wrong, it's plenty of black money,
plenty of hood money.
Yeah.
I made millions of dollars.
with my black fans and my underground fans.
So you never really bother me, man.
I mean, like I said previously, you know,
where in my life is way surpassed what I expected.
So I never really try to, you know,
if they came after me, I'll go and get it done,
but they never really, like, you know,
invited me to, you know, for these festivals.
So I'm excited about this.
I mean, don't get it wrong.
I do have white fan base,
especially the young college ones
and especially from like shows like Wild and now
which is the fan base.
are mostly young white kids and black kids so I gained a lot of fame a lot of
race from wild enough shout out to Nick for bringing me on like a million
times on that show so but social media I'm sure helps to diversify your audience
definitely you know so yeah I'm excited about the New York Comedy Festival going on
the second week in November so make sure y'all get tickets at the um
hard rock right hard rock yep you look at us like we know like we know that I'm trying
I mean, I know.
Is that the hard rock?
I didn't know nothing about it too.
It's on the sheet, Envy.
She says, yes, the venue is
Music Road at Hard Rock Hotel, New York City.
That's on 48th Street.
You need tickets.
You can go to n.Ycomedyfestival.
Yeah, I'm excited about doing that a lot.
And you also on your own tour, America's Fuck Tour.
Yeah, America's Fuck Tour.
Hey, yeah, you know, why are you allowed to say that?
You're not from America.
You're from a citizen.
I'm a citizen there.
I got my papers.
The thing about it, after 30 years in America, I finally became, and I'm glad I did it before all these things started happening.
You know, in fact, Rada don't want to push me to doing it because prior to that, you know, let me see.
I applied for my citizenship about 15 years ago, took the test, you know, easy test.
I studied the test and passed the test, right?
You're laughing at it, man.
I passed the test and then that day, this motherfucker did not want me to be a citizen that day, you know?
because I was, you know, they asked,
they try to incriminate.
He asked me questions where I could easily incriminate myself.
He asked me, say, do you owe any taxes or child support or anything?
I said, well, I owe taxes, but I'm on a payment plan.
So he said, well, before I approve your citizenship,
I'd like to see, you know, the history of your payment plan.
And I sent this, motherfucker, my payment plan, he said,
well, it wasn't consistent enough, so you're not an honest person.
So we're denying your citizenship.
Wow.
And once you get denied, you have to wait five years to apply again.
Why weren't you consistent enough?
I have no idea what he meant by that.
I mean, I don't know, you know.
I thought I was consistent enough, you know.
But what accent did you use, Michael?
When I was.
The Philly one or the Ghana one?
Combination.
That's my dishonest person.
That's why.
So, yeah, and I got so frustrated with it.
I was like, you know what, fuck being an American.
As long as I could renew my green card every 10 years,
I was okay with going.
So I don't let me back into work.
That's all that mattered to me, you know.
But then we're not a citizen and you have to travel to Europe and you have to get a visa.
It became so difficult.
And when Rodder came in my life, she was the one that pushed me like, might get it done.
I'm like, I'm a fuck man in American.
She's like, Mike, go get it done.
And then we found a lawyer and I didn't even have to pay this guy.
He just went in like kind of free promotions in exchange for promotion.
He set it all up and I went to, did a test in LA.
This time I had a young black, 30-year-old black man interviewed me.
He was a fan.
and then, you know, big long story
I became American.
Oh, say, can't you see?
But it's not a delight.
So why do you think Americans fuck?
You don't need to know the song.
Why do you know Americans for it?
Come on, you have a comedian president, man.
This guy is doing the funniest shit on earth.
And I'm, and it's comedy to me.
As comedian, I was rooting for him
only because it was making our job easier, you know.
Oh, so you voted for him?
I didn't vote.
I didn't vote.
I didn't vote.
I didn't vote.
I was doing it for him.
I was willing because I wanted to have a great...
You wanted him to be president?
With me.
Yes, because I wanted to have...
A funny person.
He was funny.
Yeah, it was funny.
His comedic president.
I mean, there was nothing going to be funny about Kamala.
We can't make fun of Kamala.
It's a strong black woman.
We need somebody to make fun of.
That's why I was ruling for him
because I wanted a lot of material.
And it worked.
I mean, this guy, everybody...
Do you see what France told him?
They won a Statue of Liberty back because of Trump.
Do you see that?
I didn't know the Statue Liberty came from France.
After that bitch came from Harlem.
what d l's day when he called you uh we didn't no no we didn't um we didn't talk about
that much i'm then last when i talked to d l was no actually he does this comedy thing on
tuesday on wednesday night in l and we know we talked briefly you know but we didn't
when we talked we we we with this stuff about you know uh politics we it's more like we just
like you know through social media nothing we
didn't really communicate about you know but yeah that i must say d every day he's on on trump's
i'm like that ain't gonna get you nowhere nigger just hit up trump what you need from trum tell the
nigga we need you might get it you know so it is what it is man you know i mean go ahead no
now i was saying as a comedian how do you uh personally decide when you've gone too far when
somebody else have gone too far when something is not funny uh i mean if the if the person
It's not laughing at it.
I think that's important to me.
If I'm going to make fun of somebody,
I think they have to laugh somehow or some way.
You know, if Trump came into my show
when he laughed at things I'm saying, probably,
because, you know.
Probably not.
The first thing I say when I get on stage,
I say Trump is running America,
like Shig Knight ran death row in the 90s.
That's the first thing I said.
He would definitely laugh.
He would laugh at that.
That's right, man.
He probably would ask for us.
Did Shug Night do a good job?
running death for on the 90s and the answer is though he'll find a way to deport you
damn he can't that's going to be a lawsuit I'm American you can't just deport me
there I have no criminal record well no that's part of what he's been doing
he's been deporting people who are actually U.S. citizens or people who've been going
through the process well I'm I you have to have some kind of criminal record he'll find
something well you're fine to me that's it that's really been the whole no
that's been the whole thing that's why people are upset I'm not worried by
Trump, man. You know, I mean, I'm not worried. I have, my thing is, you know, but just,
let's say one thing. Whatever he say he's going to do, he does it. Definitely doesn't.
That means, so, and I mean, you know, you got to respect a guy. He's doing what the hell he says
going to do. I'm going to do. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that. He's doing it.
And let's just, I mean, it's three or four years left. Just, let's just figure out what is it that
you want from this guy. You don't want anything from him? Because you don't. I just want America to be
great. I really do. I want America to be great.
period so I'm going to whoever's in the office I'm going to support any president who is
truly no no no who is truly trying to make this country better thank you who's truly trying to
make it wrong he did do a few things that I you know that I mean especially with the with the
ice situation I wasn't a big fan of that because I mean I think that's what making America what
it is is foreigners coming in here and and doing things of course you know people like me who
what I had to go through to become a citizen took me almost picking
30 years to become a citizen so it's not an easy thing to keep illegal you know
papers so of course I don't want anybody coming in here they can still get you in
the Trump era that's what they've been doing people who have been wrongly deported
because of administrative errors and policy change yes I mean people come in
illegally I'm not approving of that because I didn't come in illegally you know I
came in the right way and I had to keep the right papers to keep renewing it
makes sure I'm doing the right thing so you know but I guess just the force they're
taking and sending people back it's kind of sad when they're separating fathers from
the kids and all that that's a sad part and imagine getting sent back to a country that you're not
even from familiar with yeah at least you would be back in Ghana yeah anywhere
africa i'd be good taking Liberia nature it doesn't matter I love my continent yeah
when you're gonna go all the time oh have you been there no I haven't yet I was there when you
I mean you're there all the time but I was there that uh you was there for new year 30
December one year like two years ago oh okay
Yeah, you have to come.
People saying that the December time is getting, like, so many people go down that if it's your first time, you might not enjoy it as much.
It's a great time to go, because I actually decided to shoot my special this year during that time.
In Dirty December?
Yes.
In Dugna?
January 3rd is a date.
So I decided to go ahead and shoot this one special and give them, give the people probably the best special they'll probably ever see in the whole entire life.
Not to go back to this, but I got Trump question.
In 2016, you did the Vlad interview and you, and you always joking, but you said you deported.
yourself if he became president yeah but then now your jokes kind of changed like
what it what is that because how you find that at it's 2016 yeah for real yes
is that a tweet no it's it's I just wonder like what made you change the ton of
your jokes damn what was I at 2016 I don't know what I remember you know
that headline I have no idea what how that did because I'm out 2016 I'm more
being on vacation in Cancun with my
X before Rada and I remember both of us rooting for this guy because it was like he
was an underdog he would think he was going against Biden I think that time so I don't
against Hillary was it Hillary yeah 21 Hillary and you know anything I remember like
she was saying you know if he went you know be a lot back in America something funny she
said I don't remember but I remember like you know quietly kind of rooting for the
underdog I always been an on a dog type of person even when I'm watching a superboy
My team is not in.
I'm willing for the underdogs to win.
You know, so maybe I'm just trying to be funny.
You know, but I'm always rude for the underdogs.
I'm mad at who it is for some reason.
I don't know like he was.
I mean, he was definitely the underdog in the election.
Nobody expected him to win in 2016.
Not a dog.
Not.
What?
I feel like there were people who, like we voted for Hillary and we want her to win.
No, hell no.
But.
They thought Hillary was going to win.
Yeah.
People thought Hillary was a foregone conclusion.
Me and his own name was at the party.
There was a celebration of them.
That didn't happen.
Yes, everybody thought Hillary going.
You guys just been having bad choices.
I mean, God, with this great, this country is,
you're the last, it's like,
there's nobody that's standing out there.
You know, whether it's Democrat and Republican,
nobody's really out there that you guys ever felt comfortable with.
I mean, you guys, are you in America?
I mean, I'm saying, you never been happy with nobody.
You never wasn't a fan of Hillary.
He just not happy.
He just can't nothing make you happy.
Hillary was cool.
I like Hillary.
You did?
Yeah, I like Hillary.
You like Biden, too?
No, I never liked Biden.
Okay.
So if you got Biden and Trump, then what are you going to pick?
Exactly.
I'm saying, I'm saying.
But listen, I want to go back to what you said about Ghana, right?
Performing your stand-up in Ghana.
Do you think Africans and African-Americans laugh at the same jokes?
Or do you got to...
No, of course not.
That's why I'm doing it during that time.
It's going to be people from different parts of the world.
I'm not going to trust my stand-up with just straight.
My Ghanaians are very strict, they are like, you know, very conservative, and I would not want to do that to my special.
So that time of the year, there are people from Canada, London, and the United States, all in Ghana.
So my goal is to capture all the dire spirit and perform for them.
And hopefully, I'm hoping, plus I'll be challenging myself.
I like a challenge, you know, so I'm looking forward to it.
Have you ever tried Ghana, I mean, stand up in Ghana?
Yeah, I've not shown Ghana, Nigeria.
Nigeria's more open, they're more free.
You know, Ghana, you've got to be a more, you know, certain things, you know, they're not too much on the, like, too much of my hardcore shit.
Well, they do.
Nah.
But they just get quiet.
No, no, no, no, I mean, if I say, don't get my, if I say a joke they didn't like, you know, they probably won't laugh at it, but I just move on to the next shit and like that shit wasn't even the punchline.
You know, you have to like, you know how to make adjustments on stage.
You know, like a football player, man.
If the defense ain't working, change the defense.
you know what I mean you change your offense you go into the huddle you know into a shotgun
permission instead of a running back position so you got like you as a professional
doing this for 30 years you have to learn how to make adjustments on stage and in life period
and I think I've learned how to do that speaking of football are you really Eli Apple's uncle
Eli Apple is my nephew how about that I came in before that nigga okay but he's my nephew
I mean I mean is like is he really my like he's this big I'm the star he's the low nephew
nigga okay now I'm his I'm I'm his uncle yes that's my nephew yes my youngest sister son
wow okay yeah yeah so shout out to Eli cornerback right for the cornerback he was
got number one draft pick in 2016 I was at the draft pick actually there's a year that he was
selected um the guy that's he's now with uh Minnesota now for that damn goddamn I quick we forget
but I was there for that draft 2016 in Chicago and if I draft my little nephew
Eli Apple was selected a 10th pick
by the New York Giants
I never forget that day
I became a Giants fan
It was a 10th pick
10th pick overall man
Did you lean on him
When you opened the school
Like I ain't now
No no man
I never leaned to nobody
Man I've been doing
I've been taking care of the school myself
And the only time I actually decided
To even open up a nonprofit
Was an issue I had
You know
With the last government
Of Ghana
They gave out these bonds
I don't know if you heard about it
give about these this is called euro bonds so your bonds is like it's a bond where the money
stays in whatever currency you put it in you know so if we whether it's euro or pounds or dollars
it stays in that currency and it was paying very high interest rate like 10% something crazy and that's
what I had decided to do in paying for the school for life I said okay what's going to take to
sustain the school for the lifetime and I figure out when the school is completely filled up
which is in two more years going to be filled up right now every year I bring in like 20
kids so in about two years it would be like a 200 and I'm a max out there I said when
there's 200 kids it's going to cost me like 10,000 dollars a month which is very
reasonable if you hear but you know Ghana and most part of Africa the good and bad
thing about is labor is very cheap so you could afford to pay employees you know
and like I said I could run the whole school for 10 grand a month and I said how can I
get 10 grand a month for a lifetime and then they had his bonds the Euro bonds that's
paying 10% interest rate and I'm like okay it's a million dollars I put a million
dollars in there get and every give me $10 a month and once they expire after three years I renew it
again and again right so I send a million dollars to my continent to my country and I said okay
let me now the school be set interest will pay for it interest paid for it so I got the
who got like one two payments and then payments stopped and then I'm and I hit up the financial
guy. I'm like, what's going on? He said, well,
they're having some issues, so everything's going to be okay.
Two years later, no payment.
And then
they said, between COVID and Ghana owes
China money, you know, it's all on
that last government. I'm not going to blame me on the country.
Ghana is a great country. And
this issue has never happened in the history
of Ghana where they fuck up
your bonds. Bonds is like, should be
really strong. If bonds go around America, the government
come in and pay for it, take care of it.
So then it's like you know two years no payments. So now I'm coming up new money making these payments, you know. And then right before the election, they decided to make a decision on the bond. They said, okay, we decided that we are restructuring the bonds. You have two options. Either take one or would take one for you. So option number one, you lose 37% of money you give them. Your 10% interest rate is now 5%.
oh shit right and your three four year bond is now an 11 year bond meaning to hold your money for 11 years
option number two you don't lose no percentage but your 10 percent interest rate is now 1.5
percent and your three year bond is now 15 year bond so i went on twitter and i lit them up
i mean i lit them so hard i think i was probably the cause of the last government losing election
because they became worldwide you know because i you know they knew i did it for the school and you know you
know and then um and so I had to pick one eventually I mean I picked the one I
that don't lose no percentage because I say as long as their money is there I could
always fight for it you know so now instead of getting 10 grand a month it's like whatever
$1,500 a month you know so that I was really pissed about that so now when that happened I
said okay I got up maybe open up some kind of nonprofit and maybe try to raise the rest of the money
in that way and make sure the school goes on for life you did it I mean I opened my nonprofit
As long as I'm working, I'm still paid out of my pocket.
People want to send monies up to them.
I don't, I'm not with, I've never been a beggar, you know,
even though nonprofit is rich people to have those non-profit.
But me, for some reason, it's just something me just hate asking for anything.
You know, because if I say I'm going to do something, I'm going to do it.
And I'm working there.
I'm making money, you know, so I'm paying it.
And when that time comes, you know, I'll go back for money.
Man, that's dope, man.
When did you start realizing, like, okay, I can be, I can clown around,
but I got to get my mogul on.
too. Yeah, it's when I went back home around December, like the 2019, and when I was like, you know, and I saw kids during school hours in the marketplaces helping their mother sell food. And I'm like, why are these kids out in school? Because I know in America, kids out in school, parents get in trouble. And then I found out that, you know, sometimes they can't afford to go to school. But how about public schools? Public schools are called government schools in Africa. And there's only a few of them. And it fills up really fast. And once it fills up, you can't go to school. You can't afford private schools. You can't go to school. You can't afford private schools. You can't go to school.
school so then I say I got to I got to do some at least my start off in my
village at least where my life my life started you know and started doing it
and made it happen that's dope isn't job building a school too and Kaj Samed in
Ghana or Jai Ruh what Jai did he he he he I guess he built it he
added took what the school already had okay okay he added he had us some more
like classrooms I think I think Kai I've been Nigeria
Nigeria okay okay yeah what makes you more money right now my
Telling jokes of being Michael Blacks in the brain.
Ah, stand-up.
Stand-up is, it is right now.
I mean, that's one thing.
That's a great thing by stand-up.
It could never take that away from us, you know.
And long as you build a fan base,
you could tell these jokes for life.
Even at this point, like, you know,
2016, 2015, I was hot as hell.
I mean, I was going to doing like 10, 15 shows on a weekend
and making crazy money.
Like, man, when I built the school,
I kind of, like, toned down a little bit.
Because I was really crazy online.
Titty Tuesday twerking Thursdays all that shit and you can't have a school and have a titty
Tuesday you know I mean so I slow down you know and I'm right into this kid the other
day said damn Mike you fell up why because I'm not doing titty Tuesday better think about it you have to
set the bar so high you have to set the bar so high in your life we become an entertainer
that even when you quote-unquote fall off you still making good money yeah yeah you know
plus people don't want you to grow up if they used to you're seeing you a certain way
When you're doing things a certain way,
they want you to stay on that.
The day you put a shirt under your jacket
is just different for us.
It's just my style.
Why are you looking at my chest?
You always got it out.
It's always out there, I don't know.
I see you in Delaware.
I'm sorry.
I don't even be here.
Michael Blackson, ladies and gentlemen,
you can catch them at New York Comedy Festival
and we always appreciate you joining us.
Thanks for having me.
Michael Blackson, it's the Breakfast Club.
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