The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Mike Epps Talks ‘We Them One’s’ Tour 2026, ‘The Upshaws,' ‘Last Friday,’ Kai Cenat; Streaming + More

Episode Date: November 13, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Mike Epps Talks ‘We Them One’s’ Tour 2026, ‘The Upshaws,' ‘Last Friday,’ Kai Cenat; Streaming. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The breakfast club. You're all finished or y'all's done? Morning, everybody. It's D.J. N.V. J. Salarion, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRose is here as well. We got a special guest in the building.

A motherfucking legend of Icon. Man, stop introducing Mike Epps like he regular. Okay, goddamn right. Then you said it, the icon of legend. And I said, I don't even know why he had. He got so much going on out to check to see what he's up here for. I'm not going to lie. I saw that they said Mike Epps was here for the We didn't Once,

so I said, this is a typo from the last time he was here. There's no way they're about to go back out again. Again. Going out again. Hey, how are y'all doing out there in the world, man? Breakfast Club, baby. We're on a breakfast club. I'll be watching this shit all the time, but, you know, and I said to myself,

I wonder when I'm going back again. Anytime you want to Yeah You did the first Mike Ems did the first skit with the breakfast club We ever did

I did Yeah she did Remember when the girl was holding the food And he smacked the food out of her hand Oh yeah yeah yeah I never did get anything

out of there I never did get nothing from it either Never got a check or a piece of cake A bottle of wine Or none of that Is he on the wall?

Is he on the wall? Hell no Look how y'all Mike on the wall No I ain't on the wall Man But see that's what I wanted

to come here and talk about you know what I'm saying I want to talk about the neglect that has been going on with the Breakfast Club and Mike yeah no man you're a legend

you're an icon man see I'm ready to do like Birdman Brian Williams on y'all right now all tree of you you too you too yeah

go ahead yeah I ain't gonna say it no more what we'd be doing what happened no I was just sitting there watching all them clips You almost got in like several different fights in here.

You say that's so nonchalously, right? So articulately, yes. God, I don't be worried about that shit, no, Mike. I don't know it, but they were just showing all the different clips of. And everybody never wondered to fight you was like this close. Yep. What you think with one of one out of him and Beanie? That was the craziest one to me.

They don't be the funniest. I would beat your ass right now. They're standing like an arm's left of away from each other. I'm sitting here watching. Right there. Right there. I've been in worse situations, man. Oh, no, man.

That shit is just hilarious, though. I'm like, damn. What makes you want to go back out on the road so soon? I feel like y'all just ended this story. Well, you know what? That's my thing. See, that's the thing about me. I never leave the people.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's because Hollywood is, they don't trust me 100%. Even now? White people do not trust me, man. And I've been working on it for years. How do they trust you? I think you proved yourself times 30. No, you know, I don't know, man.

You know, I feel like I've, I feel like I've always deserve bigger opportunities. But I do be getting big opportunities. Mike, you just did six seasons of a sitcom on Netflix, man. I know. What you're talking about? I'm greedy. I want more. What is it that you want?

You sell out every show. What's bigger did I want? Yeah. I want I really want I want to be I want to be in some more movies with white people because it means money when you see me with a

if you catch me with a honky the money gonna go up yeah yeah yeah yeah but you know when you think about black honkies make your money go up go ahead I hear that name that word in a long time when you think about black comedians it's not too many black comedians

who had hit sitcoms don't talk about sitcoms that have lasted more than five seasons yeah you know what I'm saying there's only a few like you got the Cosby show you got Sanford and son right Martin Martin Martin I don't even know Bernie Mac did Bernie do five seasons I don't even know God bless the dead I'm not sure no I don't know but I've been blessed to do I've been blessed to do I've been blessed to still be in the business and that's how I stay in the business man I never I

I'm I'm I wake up every day like I'm just now getting in it like I'm I never got in it I never celebrate myself being in the business I'm never bragging or you know I'm always a fan still I'm always looking at the business from a fan's eyes like if I look at the business from a fan's eye I ain't gonna never fall off because I know what the fans like and what the fans want

and I'm even judging myself like a fan too like oh that shit ain't gonna work Bernie Mac and Jamie Fox have five seasons you got six that's a big fucking deal man the wands brothers I don't know how many seasons they had that's a big deal bro

it is it's pretty good and you're on Netflix on Netflix that's a big deal one of the hardest platforms to get on and to be successful on so shout out to all

to Netflix you know for giving me a tear surrender giving me the opportunity and Wanda Sykes and Kim Fields you know just a great team of people

and that's that's the That's the key to succeeding. You have to have a great team. Nobody's doing this shit by their self. You know, when you see somebody successful, you can best believe it's a team behind them that made them, that helped them propel, you know. Now, you're going back out on the road. Yeah. We don't want one's comedy told 2026.

You didn't, it feels like you just got off the road. Right. How do you get a chance to create new material? Because usually they say material comes from living life. That's right. But if you're always on the road, where's the material coming from? I mean, if you look at the news, the shit is just hanging off the tree. It's just low-hanging fruit.

Every day, it's some new shit. And that's the thing about being a real comedian. A real comedian ain't sitting there writing shit. You're going to get it right off the cuff. Just like you catch me coming out to the bodega. Damn, Mike, what's happening? I say some funny shit. That's a real comedian right there.

We ain't got a right. I ain't got a right shit. I ain't got a right. You catch me walking down the street. I'm going to be funny. catch me at the drugstore I'm gonna be funny you catch me wherever you catch me at I'm gonna be funny and I just feel like

that's what I do that's that's how I write and if you come and see me that night at the comedy show you're gonna hear some shit that happened that day I'm talking about it right on the stage and I'm gonna make it funny you know so I trust my funny

you were talking about the honkies right do you feel like Hollywood truly respects black comedy legends the same way they do white ones or is that respect something y'all still got to fight for? Oh, yeah. We definitely, let me tell you something, man. Any, anybody black in any situation, you're still going to have to fight. It's a fight.

You know, I've never seen a race of people that, quote, unquote, are successful and still have to prove themselves. Never, I don't see another race that has to still do it. And, you know, it's even harder for us because we're doing it against each other. We are biggest competition, each other. I was looking at, I was at the strip club. This was years ago. In these years ago, he said that quick.

Yeah, but I was at the strip club. Why you look behind it in the minute? You know, your wife came to hear what you were not? She got ways of being in this place like this, man. No, but, yeah, but I was just in the strip club. I was just thinking to myself, man, these dudes are really in here. They're competing with each other, throwing the money. And they got another guy to come out.

And this is just a scenario for life. They got another guy to come out at the strip club and throw money. And then after you throw your money, he collect all the money and take it back there to the girls again. And that's how they get you to throw money. They say, yeah, they got a dude out there to throw the money. That's how Hollywood is, too. That's how our show business is. So it's somebody that starts it off

and ain't even straight plant, basically. Straight plant. Yeah. You know. Damn. So you still feel like you're proving, you're working to prove things

of people in your career at this point? Yeah, because, you know, I was just, I was just listening to everybody talk about how bad of a movie that was that Denzel and Spike Lee just did. Well, he said Rocky.

Right. They was just talking about, yeah, it wasn't a great movie. And I'm like, damn. literally when they were talking about it, it damn near made you forget it. It was like, man, Denzel was in that movie. Like, you know, it wasn't a great movie.

You damn there forgot about everything he did because you just focusing on the fact that it wasn't a good movie. You know what I mean? So one bad, one mistake in our culture can cause people to not fuck with you. Which is weird as hell to me. I don't get it. But what you said is true, though, man.

They catch amnesia. But what you said is true, we'll push the narrative. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, we'll go so hard against each other. Yeah. And that's what, and that's another, I mean, and, you know, that's another reason why we're all great too as well.

We put the pressure that we have against each other. It's crazy. When I saw Mike earlier, he said, Charlemagne, your elders is after you. That's funny as hell The OG black political beat that's happening They want his ass too right They want his ass

They're in the Pugh's pissed right now They want his ass But see you got a platform The platform that you guys have It's unstoppable It's a whole lot different Than coming inside of a church Or coming inside of a political arena

This is the real platform It's culture, real people Hell yeah You're touching everybody man you know I think about you Mike too because you've been funny your whole life man but as you've grown what is being a comedian mean to you now compared to when you first started

well when I first started it was confused it was it was disruption you know what I mean when I was when I was a kid because you never seen black kids you never see and you never will see black kids in a career center

talking about they want going to be a comedian. So if you see a young black kid being a comedian, he's being disruptive. They call that disruptor. Oh, he's a disruptive. This is the motherfucker's disruptive. But that's what I was. I'm a comedian.

You know, so a comedian career is not something that you can go to college and go get. They don't teach it in, you know, in career class. This is some shit that just happens. and you know you take advantage of that's what i did i always been funny but now the shit then became a business you know what i mean so i got to cut the funny funny on and cut it off i'm like oh here come the money i got to do some business let me cut that funny or let me trim it down a little bit i can still be funny but i'm doing business let me trim it down

a little bit so I can get the business done you know and but I you know I know I know how to turn it on and off when it's time to be funny I'm funny when it's time to talk real shit I'm gonna talk real shit and um that's how I adjust my shit man that's how

adjust everything what's one thing that Mike Epps hates I know there's always a Friday question I know there's always a funnier than who who's not funny past beats what's one thing you hate discussing and talking about that pisses you off I'm so

tired of talking i'm so tired of talking about people talking about other comedians and other artists i'm sick of that shit she said i got erase some of my questions well no no no the reason why i said that is because i'm like it's just it's just running in a circle man you know what i mean it's like i ain't got nothing to say about nobody at this point i'm so matter of fact i feel fucked up talking about something is i'm so blessed i feel fucked up talking negative about anybody you know what i mean i don't have no room to say nothing negative because i'm blessed now if i wasn't doing so great maybe so but man i'm so blessed i i don't find i don't have no room to talk shit about nobody you know you did you bought a whole block man yeah you understand

Like, do you understand that's so many black people's dream to buy a whole block in their community? Where they're from? Come on, man. I know it was in Indiana, though. I wish it was in L.A. or New York. But you're from Indiana. I mean more.

I mean, way more. Man, that shit is so boring, man. Why don't you do that to yourself all the time? No, you know what, though? You don't stay on the block? You sleep on the block sometimes? Hell, yeah. My son's sleep in my room that I slept in when I was a kid.

That's great. I love that. Yeah. That's crazy. And what's crazy is people still getting murdered in the neighborhoods, and they died in the alley. And the block you just bought? Yeah, the detectives is knocking on the door.

We didn't see your camera, Mr. Deft. I said, oh, man, I ain't got no cameras around. Well, you see the camera. I said, don't know of that shit work. But it just goes to show you that. It just goes. Don't tell nobody that, man. No, it just goes to show.

No, it worked, but I'll, you know. I get you. Yeah, yeah. but you know it just goes to show you man that nobody's paying if I could tell some of these stars

some of these people that are famous nobody's paying attention to your motherfucking ass that's another thing I hate I'm like some of these people are in delusion like you're wasting fucking security money ain't nobody fucking thinking about you

I wish I could could just take a chart and just show all the artists and just point at them and say, ain't nobody think about your motherfucking ass. Ain't nobody think about your motherfucking ass. You can walk around by your goddamn self-save your security money. You don't

need no security. People love you. Why do you have somebody around you all the time? Because I walk around this motherfucker by myself. I don't have no fucking security. You never got punched in the back of the head though. See, I didn't got punched in the head on camera, Mike. Twice.

You up here calling people the boo-boos? Well? Yeah. Well, Charlemagne, I think you, I mean, I think you're going to have to do something. Like what? He got to pop that pistol on somebody's ass or something. Shit, at least once. They got to know you would do it.

Fuck the security. They don't, niggas got to know you'll do it. Once they know you will do that shit, you can walk around this motherfucker by yourself. Hell no, then you'd be on, you'd be like, look at this nigga and threw his whole life away. You know what I'm saying? Because Mike has told me to shoot somebody. Well, you ain't got to shoot nobody. Yeah.

But this is the, I just said that to say this, that most of these people walking around here that are in entertainment business, just to live like you're a normal person. I agree. Just live like you a normal person so that you can enjoy this shit because most of the people in the business are just pretend. All this shit is copied shit. I see the entertainers walk in with the, I'm like, that's some shit he's seen somebody doing with the coffee in the hand and the dude is walking, the guy got his hand on. What the fuck is going on?

That shit irritate the shit out of me. Some nigga watching me every fucking five minutes to see if somebody going to do something. I always say to myself, if I was trying to get somebody, I'm going to fuck him and that scared you up. fucking both of y'all up. I'm going to get the fucking security first. Because that's who's supposed to be protect.

Let me get this nigga first. And then I'm going to get just the security shit don't work. That shit don't work. I guess it keeps shit down. But if I catch a motherfucker that be talking shit with a security, get your punk ass out of here. Once you go for security, the other one going. That's what I'm saying.

That's what I'm saying. The other one gone. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so some of y'all need to save your fucking money. Ain't nobody thinking about your ass. You look crazy walking around with security and the damn whole foods. Was it, was it a comedian? I already do that no whole foods. What?

Who did I see in the, with the security? Who the fuck was that I seen in security? Don't follow for that. She's trying to get you to say a name. No. I think it was Bobby Valentino. Man, shut the fuck up. He had two big ass niggas niggas.

I said, now what is going on in here with the I couldn't even see the little nigger because the security I said, where are you? And the d'nick? No, I'm just kidding. Bobby, like, I'll just call the street for no reason.

I'm just fucking with you, Bobby. Can you already start streaming? Yeah, hell yeah. I'm going to start streaming. I went on that little kid. What's the name? Kahn. Man, he was a straight fool on them.

And I'm sitting there looking at, I'm sitting on the streaming platform. I'm saying to myself, how the fuck is he getting paid? When they had the COVID, when COVID went down, I was on I was on live skating, DJing.

I was doing all this shit live on my Instagram. Then the shit became streaming. And he's making all this money. I'm like, I was doing that shit and wasn't getting a dime. So now I got to see if I can get a dime. He was on the wrong platform. You know what I like about Kai?

Kai got all that attention from social media, but it don't seem like it affects him up here. Meanwhile, you got a bunch of older motherfuckers on social media losing their mind because of that audience. But Kai mentally seemed more together than them. That's why it's working for one. Because

he's not affected by it. He ain't on there trying to show you how much he got. How much of a bigger star he is. He's just being himself and making money. And that's what you young kids, if y'all watching the breakfast club, you're going to make more money and get more success being your

than anybody in the world. I know it's people that you admire, but even if it's somebody that you admire that you really like, you're like, oh, I kind of feel myself being like him. Start hating on him. Start saying, fuck that

motherfucker. I can't stand his act. Because he's influencing, so you got to hate on his ass to not be influenced. What's going to be the, like, vibe of your stream? It's going to be this. Yeah, it's going to be this shit right here. Comedy. Whole food. Whole food.

speaking on all like right now all these food stamps they didn't cut these food stamps off I'm starting to see a lot of girls on dates that they normally wouldn't go on they're gonna eat yeah they gotta eat they've been doing that though that's that's the thing what's that you go on dates because you want to eat like people do that she does it used to do that you did that first of all I could feed myself but I know have you ever did it before you'd be like I want to go here I don't want to pay for This is back in the day.

Not happening now. I'm great where I'm at right now. You're getting money now. You're getting money. Yeah. But you go, you don't want to pay for something. You have a person you call and be like,

oh, I know he'll come and pay for it. Wow. That's crazy. That's all crazy. So Sugar Daddies, if you're listening to this, listen to how you're getting screwed over. They don't know what time it is. A Sugar Daddy, though?

Oh, she loved going to an alumni party. First of all. What is that? At the colleges, she like going to the old alumni party. I get paid to be there. Well, where, well, where. We are not going to do this. because my man is not going to appreciate this.

I don't need to be in no alumni. You told me that one time about I love going to the old alumni park. You told me that. Yes, you did. You went that little ball head over there. I love going to them old alumni parties to them old men beyond me. You told me that shit. What do you get from an old alumni?

He's lying. I don't know what he's talking about. Well, just answer for another girl. What would a girl get from an old alumni? The dates you talk about and whatever she wanted. So old alumni, they graduated from college. They're successful. They got a little change.

They got a little change. These old college niggas is cheap as hell They ain't get you spending money on you Like a nigga to get dope money I wouldn't know because I never did that Yeah This niggas is trouble making me I think the wind is hitting his head too hard

You know what I wanted to know with comedians right Do you ever look at a comedian set Let's say a special And you call them and be like You know that wasn't funny You should have did this better Because you are the OG Do you ever do that or you think comedians

To be too sensitive Yeah I don't call people And I'm pretty sure the fans To tell your ass what i don't like is when niggas are are blind and deaf and crazy and can't see and hear that you ain't shit you got to be able to hear see and know you ain't shit to become something because that's the worst thing in the world is to think you the shit and you ain't the shit and i guess i guess you're supposed to do that and that's what my i just shot a special called delusion

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Do we get to talk to legends like you? Like, yes, that's amazing. You still got to be crazy, though. You know what's crazy? You still got to be crazy because you still holding a certain amount of power in your hand in your tongue with the people. this shit is powerful breakfast club this shit is you know that's why I pray for direction

I pray for God every day to God leave my steps and guide my tongue that's it he's not doing a great job because you still talk his shit on here I just seen you say some shit

the other day that was crazy I said you better stop fucking with them honkies man the monkees gonna get you Chalame you see you see what Trump call him say Trump can say he got low IQ

Trump called me a raise the sleeve back and he called Judah. How does that feel man to have Donald Trump talking shit to you, man? Tell the nigga to call me, man. I don't even think about it.

But like you, I go home. He know you, huh? I guess. Don't go to jail. Yeah, he said some nasty shit about me. Fuck the boy and ass, nigga. But like you, I go home. So, at least when it's all said to do that, at least I can know I'll be in

South Carolina doing something. What did he doing right now? He's probably working out. They're probably shooting ball right now. They're probably shooting ball in the pit. What time is right now? They're shooting ball right now. He actually works at the chapel. He works at the library at the chapel.

Do we? Yes. He works. How the fuck do you know this? That nigger don't work in no damn chapel. He do. We reported it. He came up in that era, that 90s, New York era?

I did definitely did not. Yes, he did. You did, didn't you? I definitely did not. Yes, he did. I was young. Like 14 and 15 back then. See, I was looking at, I was looking at Ditty's situation.

I said to myself, God don't make mistakes sometimes. He might have took that man off the street to save his life. To save his life. Yeah, that's how God works. So, you know, look at it as a blessing sometimes. Sometimes our failures, things that we fall in in life are blessings. You know what I mean? Every time I took a fall, I got a blessing out of it.

So let's not stop looking at all this people falling and saying, damn, man, they fail. guess what no God is called a setback is a comeback you know what I mean we all get set back so that we can come back

so you know when black men fall y'all we gotta we gotta stop teasing I think we gotta learn from it too though other minutes of Friday gonna say he said when you see a great man fall don't laugh learn for real yeah because he said

with the same thing that tempted him on the way up you're gonna have to face the same temptation yeah and it's a whole it's a hundred different way to get fucked up out here yeah everybody think it's just one way or three ways and all it's a hundred different ways to get fucked up out here well no ditty jokes on stage the ditty shit funny yeah hell yeah i got some ditty jokes on i got jokes about everybody okay because i'm a comedian and that's what i do you know i try to make sure i don't go too hard because i still got kids you know

my kids my daughter's no ditty's daughter they they're friends but some of that shit funny man it's hilarious take the nut and rub it on his nipples see i didn't I don't make jokes about that part of it. But you heard that, though. I didn't hear that. See, you added some other shit on there. I said, I ain't even heard that shit right there. That's crazy, man.

That man ain't did no shit like that. I don't know if he did or not. I'm just saying that's what the prostitute said. That was set in court. During the time when they were having the conversations with Cassie. Yeah, see. See, I would go. if I was him, I would get out and go quiet for a year

and everybody ass get fucked up. All them snitches and shit, I'm fucking them up. Because motherfuckers, you was in my backyard eating sliders and drinking free and all kind of shit. Now you're going to tell on the motherfucker, no, you got, I'm fucking you up. I'm blowing your car up and all that shit. That's the problem now. Yeah, that's the problem now, right?

He allegedly did that already, Mike. Jesus, Mike. I'm a ride fast and throw a brick through your motherfucking window while you're eating with your family when you talk about the upshall why did the upshaws end man?

The upshaws ended because the writers Wanda Sykes and the other lady Regina Hicks they just couldn't see eye to eye really? You know the lady Virginia Hicks they both did a great job

first of all before I go any further they did Such a great job writing. We had the best writing team. I mean, man, the writing team was incredible, but, you know, I think the lady Regina, she had an agenda that she wanted to push with the show, you know, and everybody didn't agree with it all the time.

You know, they wanted the show to go this way. Show started off this way, and then it starts slanting, then it went over there, and then it went over there. We should have just kept it right there. in the middle might have did 10 seasons but I think it was about in the writing you know I can't mix somebody's personal life with what's on paper but what's on paper and then it you know whatever's on paper and then you guys film it is what we see you know nobody's paying attention to nobody's personal life you know when you say in the writing though

is it how they were trying to bring it in what the stories were around like the character like what exactly in the writing is the issue then though because her personal sense has to come into her work on screen not necessarily she she she played a straight woman on the show yeah but but wanda sex is very like like you're not going to make her do anything she doesn't want to do stay next to anything she doesn't want to sit next to right right but she's an ally for a certain not even ally but like she speaks out openly about being a part of the community yes but on the show her character was a straight woman

and that's what she portrayed on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on camera but in the script and and that wasn't the issue with the script it was that that that was just one out of a million things that you know I think personally might have kept the show from going I mean if you really want to think about it the kids got grown you know we really couldn't go no further because of that The kids, you know what I mean? The kids are, you know, that's what they do on these TV shows. When the kids get older, they cut the show off.

Once the kids get older, you can't write stories around them because it's like, damn, the kids are grown now. But like I said, it was many reasons why the writing at the end started becoming a little different. We actually went back. We actually, in the middle of the seasons, we kind of lost it. but then in the end when you see this season right here you'll see we end up getting it back

you know but it ran this course man again I'm thankful that I've been able to be on TV for six years but don't that frustrate you don't when two people I guess can't get along so a whole production goes down the drain yeah

hell yeah and you know you know what's crazy about that situation I used to go to Wanda all the time and tell her hey Wanda you know I need somebody for the fight for me in the maroons because I ain't in there to fight for him

and and I've made it this far in my career being non-confrontational I let so much shit go I let so much shit happen because it's not that serious and I'm always looking at the big picture I don't never look at the little small potholes

because I know I'm trying to make it to the end of the road. So, you know, a lot of my success, I wouldn't even have it if I was, oh, man, well, I got a problem with this. And, no, y'all got to change this. And no, that irritate. Man, you got to go through life, like, whatever. What means the most? And all that little shit, because the little shit stops you. That's right.

You got to not pay attention to none of that little shit and focus on the prize. And that's what I did with this show. You know, I always focus on the prize. I never went in the writer's room. I might have went up there one or two times. But if I got a script and I'm sitting on the set and I'm reading it, I'll tell them in the, hell, no, I ain't doing that. I ain't doing that.

Because when you're doing television and you're sitting at a table reading, and you guys are doing a table read, when you come back the next day and you get on the set, the script going to be different. You're like, now this ain't the shit I read. at the table because every night they go in there and rewrite so

you know that's the upshaws always felt like it was written from real life so I always wondered like how much of you the man is hidden and that shows like humor in the heart like all of that shit because I think I think at some point they started going on the internet digging in my

real life damn all that shit any book watch the show if you watch the show you'll start seeing all kind of I'm like damn and I got offended by that and then I say you know what this is what's going to make the show good

I can't get offended about something that's real and true let them write it I stop getting upset about it because some of that shit was I'm like that shit is me I'm like well the shit is on the internet you know the shit is on the internet I fell out with my daughter

the shit is on the internet that I had multiple baby mamas the shit is all the everything you want to write is on the internet so you can write write the whole script off, just Google Mike Epps. Damn. Yeah.

Speaking to that, what did becoming a husband and father again, as an older man, teach you that you didn't understand the first time around? On the second marriage? Yeah, yeah, I'm a new marriage. Where did I learn this time that I learned that I learned that time? What did you learn, like having children later on in life as you older? Yeah. What did that teach you that you didn't understand the first time around?

you know i tell i tell people all the time man that uh especially adults and children a lot of us are not it takes a lot takes us a long time to become an adult just because somebody say they're an adult don't mean they're an adult and a lot of time your kids don't realize that either most of us are still trying to find ourselves when we're we make kids you know what I'm saying we're trying to find ourselves so so you're a kid too mentally you know your mind is not mature enough so now you raising a kid trying to figure yourself there's an old saying to say man we grew up together me and my kids because because I was growing up too but now I'm at the age now I got two new young kids I'm the best father in the

world that's what's up and I just told my wife the other day I said damn I'm a good father now and she bust out laughing she laughed it was funny because the shit is real now and I feel like a real like man I'm doing shit that

that my past wife was cussing me out about but I just wasn't there man now I'm there you know what I mean I'm like and then I look at my older kids

and I'm like damn I wish I could have been that guy with them I wish I could have been the same guy I am now when I had my first daughter she would have got the real Mike the good Mike but unfortunately it takes time I tell women all the time

it take about 50 years for a man to get this shit right so be patient be patient out there ladies it takes 50 years for us to get our shit together and then you'll get the last 10 or 21 the years No, just good, look. So listen, your blessing might get out of an old

alumni party. My best son is sitting at home waiting for me right now. Hey, babe. He's waiting on you, huh? Yes, he is a blessing. He ain't got a job? He's cool. Don't worry about him.

Nope, a nigga ain't got no job. You tell her way she said that she got offended. The niggas at home watching Jerry Springer right now waiting. He probably picked you up every day. His niggas sitting out inside with a two-piggin' mouth. No, he does not. Not bad, bitch. Don't do him.

No, he did not. We're moving this week, okay? Y'all moving? Yes. What y'all moving, too? Just two different places. That's nice. I'm glad you're in love.

You seem like you're in love. He's giving your man a shout-out. No, we're not moving together, but we just happen to both be moving this week. So, no, I don't listen to him. You did, not no more. You was dating two men at one time? I've always been very intentional about where I'm at right now. I get it.

Yes, so I don't know what Charlotte-Man is talking about. We was calling her two-nigger-low. Two-nigger-low. Because she was getting spotted all over the city with two. Two-nigger-low, it was crazy. I was not. I was being spotted with one person. I got videos.

And back to what you were saying, yes, I am in love. Mike, don't think this to 80s. Don't let this nigga do you like that. I got more upshall questions or something. Don't let this nigga do you like that. All I can tell you, if you're dating more than one person, get you some antibiotics. I'm not dating more than one person. Keep your urinal track cleaned out.

Jesus Christ. Whoa, you're right in the interview? We the ones coming to Mike, look we don't know what year that is any. Oh my God why are you doing this?

Is that her? No. My hair is short. Going crazy. That ain't hard, nigga. He always trying to pin stuff on me. What you mean? Mike, focus over here.

He got some extensions. That ain't hard, that is definitely her. He's always lying. He's trying to know what I got going on. Let me post it, then and ask people of this you. Get your tickets. Let me tell you something.

This comedy tour, I've had such a great time doing this comedy tour. This is our third year doing it. Man, this comedy tour is like a party, bro. I don't know if y'all ever seen it before, but, you know, you get 85 South together. And myself, man, them niggas are a fool. And this comedy tour, I mean, every city that we show up, man, some of the best rappers, some of the performers come out. in every city go out and perform, man.

And it's a party. You know what I mean? It's like going to wilding out. It's like going to a fresh fest because you've got all these different artists on the show. And we're the ones, man. Ain't nobody out here better than us. Go get a comedy lineup and line them up with us.

We're going to spank their ass. I don't care who it is. You got Jay Skiy, you got Just Nish. You got Mojo Brooks, Nile Green, T.K. Kirkland. What? Damn. We didn't add a T. T.K. on there.

That's good. That's good. TK been looking for this spot for years. I love TK. TK is a veteran. Wait before you leave, last Friday. Don't say a-oh like that. All that. I'm still talking about the tour now.

Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. Make sure you go get the tickets to we the ones tour. The first city we're coming to is my hometown, nap town. Y'all niggas know y'all better go out there and get the tickets for that. You know what I mean? And then we got another, just go on there and check out the days and shit. What you want to say to me? I wanted to know last Friday is happening.

Are we getting Chris Tucker back? I don't know if we're going to get to. They said Chris Tucker. Cube said he's been talking to Chris Tucker, but I don't know. I might have to run around and catch his ass coming out of one of these Bible studies or something to see if it's real.

But me, Ice Cube, Aaron McGruder, and DJ Pooh were just together sitting in the room right in this movie. This movie going to be crazy. Now, you know when you say Aaron McGruder, you excite the whole goddamn internet. Aaron, that's the creator of the Boondogs, Black Jesus for people who don't know he's a genius.

Yes. Like, that's something special right there. That's top-tier writing. Man. And I think that's why Ice Cube went and got him because he's going to bring that to the movie. And not to say that we weren't going to make it hot like we've always made it hot,

but this is going to give it another extension on it. Aaron McGruder and DJ Pool need to be the only ones writing that script. Aaron McGruder, DJ Pool. Dang, he just took you off the writer's team. I ain't think about that nigger, man. Mike in there for the comedy. Like, you know how they'll write and then they'll be like, Mike, punch this up.

What can I be honest with you? Nobody can really write for me anyway. Yeah. They can write some shit on the paper, but I'm going to say some shit funnier than whatever you put on the paper. That's right. And I'm going to give you yours

and then I'm going to give you mine. And when you get in the editing room, you're going to see which one was better. Hello. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And that's how I feel about this comedy tour right here.

Ain't nobody comedy tour better than it. And I'm headlining this year. See, last, all these other years, I've been hosting. I go up for five minutes, six, seven minutes. But if you really want to see a real Mike Epps hot, 35, 40 minutes, come out to this tour right here. Hey, them niggas be fron on you, Mike. I was having this argument behind the scenes about you the other day. They said, man, Mike just be hosting.

I said, you ain't ever watch none of Mike specials then. Well, they just seen that because they came to them. That's what I told them. See, I ain't want to say it was you, but go ahead. I was arguing with this nigga. And he said. DJ and He said all Mike knew is host

I said man Mike funny and shit They were talking about Comedians and I was like Well Mike on the tour I was like well Mike host the tour I was like he don't do a set I said man Mike got hours I was like I didn't even see Mike got hours

That's what I'm saying See people be sleeping on me Because I ain't out here honking my horn and blowing And doing all that crazy shit But that's how I like it I like to be underestimated I like you to not be paying attention

And I'll sneak up behind you And bop you up behind you and bop you upside your head. That's how I love my life. I love it. And I've been doing that. That's how I've been doing the whole time. I've been watching all these dudes.

They're making plenty of money. They're killing them. Guess what? I'm still standing right here. And 190 pounds, I can run, play basketball and chew bubble gum and talk shit. And, you know what I mean? A nice little pistol collection. I'm still out there building and building houses.

That's right. Mining my business. Loving God. That's right. You know what I'm saying? always loving God and keeping the faith. That's why I told them people when these food stamps and stuff get cut off. Don't worry about that.

See, black people, we've been getting our shit cut off. We've been getting our doors kicked in and stuff. This is not for us. So don't take this as personal about the food stamps and all that. I'm actually glad they cutting some of these niggas off food stamps because some of us need to not be on food stamps because it's a trickle-down effect. You get the food stamps, then you go buy the food that give you cancer. Then you eat the food to give you cancer.

Then you're sad. You're walking around here upset. Your diet's fucked up. Now, I'm going to tell you some honest kind of truth. Your diet then sent a lot of niggas to prison. Explain. They're going to take all of this and put it on Fox News. Yeah.

And it's going to say, Mike F says, you niggas don't need to be on food. You think so. Yeah. And you're going to go viral. And they're going to call you Maga Mike. You got to finish a joke, damn. Listen. Listen, brothers and sisters.

Listen, brothers and sisters! You don't know what this world is coming to? No, listen to this. No, they can't say that about me. See, that's one thing about me, a little boozy, badass. We can't be canceled. No, y'all can't be canceled.

But I'm just telling you the internet going to be mad. D.L. Fuck the internet. Fuck the internet. Fuck you, internet. Bitch-ass, nigger. And everybody out there think they want to be mad to say so,

fuck you, man. And I'm going to text you. I'm going to say, Mike, your elders, is after you. Mike Epps, ladies and gentlemen, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Every day I wake up.

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