The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Miles Minnick On Christian Slaps, Linking With Lecrae, New Album + More
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We got a special guest in the building.
We have Miles Minnick.
Welcome.
Did I see your last name right?
You did.
You did.
You did.
Yes, sir.
It was good, man.
I'm blessed and highly flavor.
Man, it's a blessing to be here for show.
Happy to have you, man.
You got an album coming out called today, well, August 29th called V.
How you pronounced it?
Via Dolorosa.
I was listening to it.
The best way to describe it is a bunch of spiritual slaps.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Or like slaps for the song.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah.
Do you think there's a ceiling on how?
well a Christian-based artist can do in mainstream?
No.
Okay.
No, I don't.
I think we could take it as far as anybody else could take it.
Because at the end of the day, it's us talking about our real-life experiences, you know what I'm saying?
A rap is all about being authentic to yourself.
So for me, I'm being true to me.
Like, I'm a kid from Cali.
I'm a kid that fell in love with Jesus, you know what I'm saying?
And so I mix all that out into the music.
I want to know when that happened.
Was it already in you as a kid growing up or did something happen that says, nah, I'm going to shift my life for this.
No, it was definitely
It was not in me when I was a kid
Like church was never like a mandatory thing in my household
You know what I'm saying
Like the most that we would ever do
When it came to God was like prayer of our food
You know what I'm saying
So for me I never forget
I was 16 years old
In the middle of a smoking session
I was a huge pot head
My friend Dante was like hey bro
Nothing wrong with that burning bush
No I'm from the earth man
God need for you and me miles
I feel you but it had a stronghold of me back then
So like I'll never forget
My friend Dante was like
bro, we should go to church right now.
When you were high?
Mid-smoking session.
You went there?
That sounds like a hot-throat.
Please talk us through this.
Yeah, yeah.
He said, we should go right now.
I'm like, for what?
He's like, no, you don't understand.
Was it on Sunday?
It was a Wednesday night.
So you were in Bible study.
Yeah, yeah, for the youth group.
He's like, yo, all the high school girls is there.
You know what I'm saying to be lit?
Like, trust me, let's go.
And so they talked me into it.
How old were you?
16.
I was 16.
I was 16.
All the high school.
Yeah.
I just want to make sure.
Oh, my God.
Now I know why you're into Jesus, so.
Oh.
And so, we got there, but the youth group was closed at night.
So we went to the main service with the adults.
And me being the main one who didn't want to be there,
I'm like on the edge of my seat, like actually like listening and like tapped in.
And I had no like prior experience to church.
So I don't know the rules of it or nothing,
but I know like I felt something.
I never felt before.
And then the pastor did an altar call at the end.
And out of this packed church,
I was the only one to go to the front.
tears in my eyes, I don't even know why I'm crying.
And then he prayed for me.
And I literally felt like God took away one and how I gave me anewan.
And then I started to investigate what that feeling was.
And that led me here.
Now, wow.
Got to thank the wheat.
That's God, man.
The weed is from the earth.
You and your man got high.
And he got a calling.
And he led you right where you needed to be.
He said, you got to thank the weed.
It's true, though.
It led you right where you need to be.
Dang.
God could use whatever he want to use.
That's right.
You know what I'm saying?
That's right.
You said he gave you a new eye.
So what did you start seeing with the new eye?
Well, a new high.
Oh, new high.
A new high.
New eyes too, for show.
But like, like,
To remember to the OI?
Yeah, no, I'm just wondering because I know like a lot of times people say like,
when people get baptized, for instance, or at least in black churches, when you get baptized,
it's supposed to be like, okay, now I'm like, I can start fresh and I've repented
and all the things.
So I was wondering if you had that feeling of like, instantly, here's some things I'm going
let go or like what was the renewed feeling yeah so it was definitely a process for me to like
let go to old ways you know what I'm saying because I was like the party dude like I would gather
all my friends from the school like let's go to this function let's go to the whoop or whatever and
so I would try to be on that same road but I never forget like I'll have like 30 people with me
walking to a party and then I'll walk slower and slower and just like go home dip you know what
saying and i try to say out of the streets because i had like my appetite slowly but surely
started to change after that day for sure you know your music is so unapologetically you know
about god and christ in it how do you balance staying bold about your faith but you know
by still making them slaps i mean it's just it's both is authentically who i am i grew up on on
mcdray e 40 you know what i'm saying like in all the southern california music as well so it's like
I lean into the sound as a part of my DNA
and I just tell my story
and really I like to
what they say is a mix of medicine in with the candy
because like when you first hear it
a lot of people say they don't know
it's Christian until like the third or fourth list
and like oh he's talking about God
you know what I'm saying so that's how we run it
What's the difference between a Christian-based
artists and a gospel artist?
I guess it depends like if you want to get into
like the worship
like singing type of music
I would say the gospel
genre versus the Christian or CCM which is a contemporary Christian gospel is more so like black
church and CCM is more like you know evangelical uh the white church you know what I mean so like
Kirk Franklin is like gospel elevation worship is like CCM you know what I mean and your music are you
trying to because and I mean your visuals as well I saw the um the video you put up where you were
doing hyphy forgot oh yeah yeah yeah are you trying to um like do you do you want to reach people who are
already Christians, already believers, or do you use, you mix the medicine with the kidney
to bring in people that you want to deliver and bring to the word?
Like, what's your focus?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So definitely, like, I definitely want to reach people that believe what I believe,
but I would say my main focus right now is reaching folks that don't necessarily believe
what I believe, you know what I mean?
And that's why, like, everything that on my Instagram right now is tailored towards
reaching people who don't have the same experiences as me as far as God is concerned.
but may have the same like street experiences as me or like fan of hip yeah yeah for so
and i i felt so bad feeling like this but when i went to your instagram i was like he doesn't
give what people would think when they hear christian artists or or gospel-based artists like
but i have in my church i got homies in my church that are like they jordan's and sneaker lovers
and all that stuff you know what i mean but i think people have like this idea of like what a young
christian leader or whatever should be like but you were complete opposite aesthetic everything
yeah yeah for sure for sure for sure
I mean, like, I don't want to be something I'm not.
You know what I'm saying?
I want to be unapologetically who God made me to be.
You know what I'm saying?
I grew up in a one-parent household.
I grew up doing drugs, selling drugs.
My brother in jail right now, you know what I mean?
It's like the culture I grew up in is hard to extract that from my DNA.
So it's just, you get what you get?
I was just, what you get?
I was going to ask, with your family dynamic, like, because you said you didn't grow up with God in the house as much.
Correct.
So are they?
Big shout out.
Shout out to Pops, man.
Yeah, the OG, Jeff Minnick Sr., West Pittsburgh, California.
He's my biggest fan for show.
He doesn't necessarily live the life that I live.
He's still the OG out there.
He's about 60 right now, but still, like, going to them clubs.
Okay.
Yeah.
All in the club.
And from my brother Jeffrey, I think he'll be out in a couple weeks, actually.
How long have you been down?
He's been down for a few years.
Oh, wow, wow.
A few years, yeah, yeah.
you know what I'm saying so yeah God has been working on them too
in themselves so looking forward to that you know it's so interesting
and I was thinking about this the other day and you made me think about
it just having this conversation when I look at somebody like Lecrae
with that new reconstruction album I listen to you know your project
what I'm realizing is I had a perception of what I thought
Christian rappers are supposed to sound like
and I honestly I don't even know what that is yeah you know what I
I'm just like, I just thought that they're supposed to sound this way.
And they're not supposed to rap over these kind of records.
And they might not supposed to be, you know, rapping the way you rap or the way LaCray rap.
It's like, where that came from?
Where did I even get that perception from?
That's how I felt when I looked at your Instagram and I was like,
why do I feel like people should look a certain way because you in the church?
Like, I'd be at church.
Right, right.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I mean.
We've seen, by the way, we've seen drunk aunties in the church all the time.
Oh, for sure.
But that's all right.
You're not doing to the church.
But I'm also.
You're seeing your type in the church with a couple of guys, you know what I mean?
Didn't Jesus drink wine?
Jesus turned water into wine.
Okay.
So, whatever.
Didn't Jesus drink wine?
First of all, I'm not drinking.
I'm not on any substances of any sort.
I'm actually doing a fast right now.
There you go.
Interesting that you're here.
Yeah.
But why is that, though?
Why do we have that mindset?
I don't know.
I think, I think, you know, a lot of us, you know, grew up in church.
and for many of us church wasn't a place that we wanted to go to you know I wasn't heavy
in church as a kid but I remember going to Easter service with my grandma and that's the last thing
I wanted to do I didn't enjoy it I had to endure it and so a lot of people have that same
experience and so when I think of Christian rap or gospel rap it's like oh man I ain't trying to hear
that it's probably they probably got a three-piece suit on some alligator shoes that's too
big for them you know what I'm saying like I ain't trying to I ain't trying to hear that but if you just
tap into it you may be surprised of what you get you know what else do you think is still misunderstood
about the christian rap john that we're not as good as everybody else you know saying that we
don't have the same potential and ability to top the charts and sell out shows like everybody else i told
to create that when he was here last time i said man if you weren't a christian artist people would hear
reconstruction and they would just say yo this should be in the rap album of the year
conversation clearly clearly clearly and that's why you know i mean folks who call me what they want to call me
but I'm reluctant of the title because of that fact.
Like, do I want to put myself in a certain box?
You know what I mean?
But I'm grateful that even though I'm labeled as that we are reaching certain heights.
I mean, I'm on a breakfast club, bro.
Like, what are you talking about?
And you've been mentioned here before you even got here.
I've seen that.
I've seen that.
Shout out to John Keith and a dark child, man.
That was crazy.
I wanted to ask you.
So what got you into rap and what made you say this is what I want to do?
Yeah, yeah.
Was it the same high day or was it?
Similar time.
Similar time in my life for sure.
So I grew up in a musical family.
Shout out to Uncle Mo.
He turned my grandma's garage into a studio, you know,
says all my cousins, my brother and then
was just in a lab every single summer, just locked in.
And I was an introverted kid, just soaking it all in.
But when I turned 15, I just started freestyling every day,
just going, going.
All my friends are like, Miles, bro, you trash, just stop, bro, just stop.
But I kept a bunch of friends like Charlemagne, go ahead.
Hey, low kid, low kid.
Yeah, trolling me.
But then when I was 16, though, we started to wrap.
group in high school
it was A squad
active squad back in the bay like get active
like the movement back then and so
did a talent show, won the whole talent show
when I was 16 went solo
and you know
it's crazy when I went solo that year
for the talent show all the judges
was Christian rap artists
like on a low they was all Christian artists
but I only knew that because I was a part of the
black student union and so I said
yo if I'm a if I'm a win this talent show
let me do a Christian rap song
And that little key was a part of my transformation as well,
like first dabbling into that joint.
And we won that joint too.
No.
Yeah.
I guess I also think about it because, you know,
you always hear Christians and gospel artists talk about secular music,
secular music.
So in my mind, I know what secular music sounds like.
I guess when I hear your joint, I'm like,
this sound like secular music, but it's not.
Like, it sounds like it, but it's not.
Yeah.
So I'm like, is it the sound too?
Are you allowed to make these slap?
Smiles? Am I allowed to make this
laughs? Hey, if I'm allowed to do it or not, I'm
going to do it. You understand what I'm saying?
But that's the intention. Like, I want
it to be able to blend in with everything else.
I want to be on them playlist with everybody
else. I don't want you to hear it and be like,
yo, what is this church
music? Like, I wanted to feel like something you could play
in the club so they could play it in the club, so they could play it
on the radio. And shout out to all the radio
is playing our song with E40 and La Cray.
Man, we are number 31, a rhythmic radio all over
America right now. And I'm saying the name
of Jesus on a record, but it's
It's slap.
It's slap.
And so we're going to keep going in this lane for sure.
Man, Head has been talking to me about you for so long.
DJ Head, Slusi.
DJ, yeah, man.
And it's funny, because I'm thinking you're just another new dope rapper from the West.
And he never told me you was a Christian artist.
He wanted me to hear the music.
He was like, yo, you need to listen to this dude my house.
And he just sent me a bunch of music.
And I'm just listening like, yeah, he's tough.
And then I'm like, he's like, yo, you know he's a Christian rapper.
I'm like a Christian rapper.
I want you go listen again.
I just thought you was going to go listen again.
talking to be in spiritual.
Like, that's not new.
Like, you know, we have the DMX and everybody.
So that's not new.
I just, I was like, damn.
Exactly.
Exactly.
I'm just talking about my faith, man.
I'm talking about what's important to me.
But you're still fin to get that bass.
You still fin to get them hooks.
I want to ask, like you mentioned DMX, right?
So what makes a Christian rapper,
a Christian rapper?
Was DMX a Christian rapper?
Because he shoots you on one record.
Pray at the end of it.
You know what I mean?
Pray at the end of it out.
You know what I mean?
Yo, yo, must let a DMX, man.
long live long live um so i think i think what classifies somebody as a christian rapper is
when their whole catalog is aimed in that direction got you you know what i'm saying people can
make faith-based songs but if their catalog doesn't reflect that holistically then i don't think
we can put that label on them got you you know what i'm saying except i don't know a chance of
rapper, loki.
Really?
I mean, but that's a hot take,
though. I'll get flame for saying that.
But, like, a lot of his music
is faith-based, especially, like, coloring book, like,
he had worship songs on that joint.
Absolutely. Yeah, that's true. You know what I'm saying?
And even on this one, like, he got real
Christian-based songs on that joint.
Shout out the chance.
What I felt with the, uh,
The Life of Pablo album, that
We on an ultra-lite being.
Mm-hmm.
This is a God dream.
This is a good.
To me, that was.
That was a Christian song.
A lot of music artists will always say or like happen to like, like you said, grow up in church or go to church of some sort where like that's your experience in music young and then you bring that in because they're using choirs and all the instruments.
So it feels like it.
Yeah, yeah.
Especially Baptist Church.
Oh, for sure, for sure.
They say a lot of the most iconic musicians actually come out of the church, you know, like Aretha Franklin, Whitney Houston.
I think even Beyonce grew up in church too.
so like that at a young age it shapes you emoji for sure
are there artists that you like are looking forward to working with
that you haven't yet that might not be in the Christian rap lane
for sure who like who's like go to number one
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Hey, Danjik Loma.
I could see that.
Ewe.
Yeah, I could see that very easily.
I'm surprised there's been no connection there.
I mean, I mean, listen, I'm one person away.
You know, DJ head is like, you know what I mean?
And even we part of the same circles in a lot of ways.
And so I don't know.
I think, you know, you know, you got, you got something in mind.
K-Dar is low-key like Batman.
He'd be watching from the shadows, like, and then striking like when it's time.
something to mine for sure like like a slap for the soul you know what I'm saying
what he does is not far off it's not it's not for off like he makes slaps with substance
if you think about it like like even not like us it's a slap with substance to it that
third verse he's schooling you giving you game and information and so I think we can make something
special was there a moment where you felt pressure the water down your message for like
broad air acceptance no
Never.
No, never, never.
You know, it's funny, in a lot of ways,
I felt more embraced by the secular
than I did by the church initially.
Like, a lot of the shows I was doing was, like,
in the hoods, at the clubs,
still doing this kind of music.
But they would be, hey, turn it out.
Like, the energy would be crazy.
You know, so I just,
my entire career up to this point,
I've kept it the same.
And I'm blessed that it could resonate
with the church audience
and the general market.
Was it difficult at first, though, coming out, coming from doing the hood clubs and the hood recorders?
Was that difficult at first?
People are like, I don't know about it.
Or did they show a lot of love from the beginning?
No, Loki, from the beginning, like, I did an award ceremony in the bay.
It was called Nine Quota Awards.
It was really like a gangster rap award ceremony.
And I was the only Christian rapper book there.
I did Christian rap music and all of that.
And I'll never forget the music got cut off because of a difficulty or whatever.
and when the music cut off
I did a freestyle
I was like devil want to run upon me
it's bad God on my side
God is my dad
if the devil want to run upon me
it's bad
the whole theater went stupid
crazy
somebody recorded it
it went viral on Facebook
and that gave me like
my Christian rap career
because of me being in an environment
like that
that just embraced
you know authenticity
man when it comes
the rappers from debate
what comes first
the beat are y'all voice
because your voice
sound like the beat
It's counting like the beat.
Energy is like that, too.
Like, damn.
Like, what comes first?
Even when I listen to 40, I'm like, they sound just like the beat.
You all that I thought you were going to get, I thought you was about the energy is just like that too and natural.
Oh, yeah, yeah, naturally.
I say the beat, the beat makes our voice do that.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Gets you like grudging, like, shout out to keep the sneak, you know what I'm saying?
It just comes out.
you know what I'm saying
shout out the bay man there's no place like home
when you did the method did you tell 40
what to do or you just sent the record
40 ain't knew what it is he true it is
like he knew exactly how to fulfill the assignment
so I just said go crazy
and he went crazy but now the only
bar that people try to target me about
in regards to what he said is like
every day is commune because I drink my own wine
you know what I'm saying
like people is like every day is
you're promoting drinking every day oh my god his own wine what do you mean i'm like if y'all don't
be cool he got his own wine brand like let him let him push his wine brand the bible talk about wine
you know what i'm saying he talked about taking communion like be happy with that sure is the e40
that that be the biggest issue with all religion like especially christianity because it's like
it says thou shall not judge but it feel like you're always judging like why can't you just let
people live and figure it out on their own track eight on my album talks about that it's called not
my job you know jesus said love god and love people he didn't say love god and judge people
and so that's really what i stand on and i think that's large in part why we're being so embraced
by by the mainstream it's like i'm not pointing fingers at people you know what i'm saying i'm not trying
to condemn people i'm welcoming to people i want to hear your perspective hear your heart you know what
I'm saying and I let people I let people just I let them live while I'm
playing my own seeds at the same time but yeah it's what it is how do you measure
the impact of your art would it be through sales screams testimonies or young
people running up on you saying yo your music changed my life like what what is
Victoria combination of it all I think I think it becomes real to me when
people actually like pop out at the shows at at our festivals I got a festival
called glowfest in the bay each and every single year that thing just we break fire cold in that joint
and it's that but then hearing the stories like during the meeting grease like man your music
helped me get off a meth your music help me get off the off the bottle you know what I'm saying
like if it wasn't for your music I would have like off myself like those kind of things really really
put it into perspective like what we're doing has more impact than just turning somebody up it turns
them up to look at the higher things you know i mean who was your influences coming out as a as a
christian rapper who was somebody like i like the way he does it lucray lucre was for sure for sure
and i mean like he was the pioneer of this whole lane and even taking it to the mainstream
like win a four gramees being the first one of us from our lane to be on breakfast club to have
a number one album in 2015 like what we're talking about so to see like the music is incredible for
sure but even like the branding the movement him having a label him putting on other artists and
um it was an easy example to follow for sure you y'all going on tour together right yes sir
it's a global tour i think i heard yes sir wow yeah what you're going uh well he's actually
starting the global run right now he's going to um europe australia africa uh i'm just doing the
north american run oh okay okay okay but yeah we're doing 30 plus cities in america for sure what's that
start? October 1st. Wow. How did you meet? How did you and Lucreate meet? Super crazy story. And so I
back in 2014, 2015, he was doing his anomaly tour. He came to the Bay Area and I was determined to
meet him, but I didn't have meeting greet money. And so I snuck by his tour bus, and I waited by his
tour bus for hours to meet him after he came out. And when he came out, I shook his hand. I was like,
Lecrae, you don't know who I am. But one day, I'm going to work with you.
you. I'm going to travel the world with you. I'm going to learn from you. And I'm going to make
the same amount of impact on the world as you, but take it to higher heights. He yelled,
security. No, he was like, I believe with you, young brother. And then seven years after that,
he reached out to me to do music, not even knowing that was me. That did that that day. Did he remember?
After I talked, yeah, at the end of our video shoot for our first song, I'm like, remember that
kid back in the bay who, uh, like, yeah, that was me. He's like, you lied. That was you. That was you.
oh my god and then like all his wheels started turning um but that's that's a god's story
bro you can't make that up man you said you uh you want to do something with kendrick when
you heard kendrick shout out lucray and d1 did that feel like you was getting closer
for sure for sure oh yeah like six degrees of separation we almost there like he definitely
watch it i'm like if you know d1 and cray i know you heard one of my songs came down i know it
and then me and cray dropped the collab project i'm like oh yeah like it's a matter time
matter of time your grandmother baptize you no
Oh, okay, I thought you had a lyric.
You said, Granny took me to the ocean, put me underneath the tide.
Like, Cray, that was Cray.
Cray's grandma baptized him.
Got you.
On a beach in San Diego.
Yeah.
But he said this on the collab album.
Yeah, on the method.
Got you, got you, got you, got you.
That was La Cray.
Not in my house.
He's got to start.
It's why I don't be liking to read nobody else questions.
I'd like to read my own questions.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
You see yourself as more of a pastor with a beat or an artist who just happens to preach.
Ooh.
That was my question, by that.
Oh, yeah.
I don't consider myself a pastor would a beat.
A pastor is a heavy title.
A pastor is somebody like you shepherd a flock.
Like you're there like checking in on people and walking them through, you know, life.
Which I do, I guess I pastor a few people on my team, right?
But pastoring in Glow Nation, that's a lot.
That's a lot to do.
So I consider myself a man of God with slapping beats, you know what I'm saying?
Telling my story and reaching the world, for sure.
That's crazy because I consider, I don't consider you a pastor,
but I feel like when artists make music that is in the gospel realm,
you have followers the same way a pastor would.
It's just a different type of church.
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
You know, it's crazy.
Before this, I was actually a youth pastor in the Bay Area.
and so I really really started to get into like this kind of music
when I was in a church just trying to turn the youth up
you know what I mean but now I just do it just for the rest of the world
but I'm doing the same thing I was doing before
it's on a larger scale so in a way you're definitely correct for sure
do you call other hip-hop secular music no okay what do you call it
I don't I mean when I'm talking to like my Christian audience I do
because that's what they understand but typically I say mainstream or general
market artist i don't want to like alienate and put that title on them like
because secular means without god and a lot of these artists aren't without god they have them
they just have a different art form expression so how do you draw from mainstream hip-hop
and culture while still turning it into something that's like holy and redemptive
mm-hmm uh i mean i'm with i'm within it you know what saying i'm within the mainstream
culture now and i'm also within the church and so when i'm
I'm making music, you get the best of both worlds without me, without me compromising either.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, when you hear my music, it's on that level that you hear on a radio.
And there's also something that the church could appreciate and slap.
Like, I'm not breaking, I guess, the rules of the church or disrespecting the Bible.
I'm honoring the Bible and making stuff good enough to hear on a global level.
You feel pressure at all, you know, because a lot of people, I'm sure, follow you, listen to you
because they feel like your story is closer to theirs, right?
They came from a certain place.
They did a certain thing and, you know, people make mistakes.
But then when people look at the church, sometimes they feel like a pastor acts like they're holier than thou and what they should do.
And then, you know, when they pull a curtain back, it's like, this passage is cheating on this one or this pastor just did this, this pastor to that.
So does that give you any way of like any pressure with what you do in life outside of the music, personal, the way you walk, et cetera?
I mean, with the platform comes pressure for sure
and I definitely don't want to be
the next person to temper somebody's faith
by a certain mistake that I could fall into
but I mean, you know, we all have temptations
and I got the same amount of temptation
as anybody else with a platform or anybody else, period.
But what keeps me grounded
with the right perspective is having the right ones around me
with safeguards.
Like my tour manager has my business
hotel key um all my every member of my team has the passwords to my phone like my team has my
social media logins like they know what's having they know what's up because i i don't want to
fall into that so there is pressure but i think it's healthy pressure were you were you the first
christian act to be booked that rolling out for show for so let me let me let me let me give the context to
it so there was a christian rap set in miami before my set but but that set was more like um sunday
morning um dj um i don't know why i'm drawing a blank uh he's the official dj everyone
aloud shout out to you bro he books like eight christian rappers to come out during his set
so that happened but as official like i'm going rolling a lot i'm going to book a christian artist
for a full set yes in los angeles california and march and that thing went crazy
is a dj five venom five venom five shes look at five venom's what up five yeah shout out to five
What role do you think Christian rap plays?
It's my last question.
What role do you think Christian rap plays
in bringing, I guess, the church to the streets?
Are you trying to bring the streets to the church?
Like, what is...
I don't want to say all the Christian rap.
This is your music in particular.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
By, I think my music takes the church to the block
with the intention of bringing the block to the church.
Yeah, for sure.
Like, like when you, you know,
you hear my music, man, I'll be, I'll be driving around through L.A. through the Bay.
I'll be hearing my stuff through every neighborhood, bro, like, slapping in the truck,
ball, ball, Bob, Compton, Stockton, Richmond, Oak.
Like, it's reaching them.
But with the intention for them to get closer to God, you know what I'm saying.
So that's what it is for us.
Yeah, I mean, it's almost impossible for you to be judgmental because of how you got bought
to God.
Yeah.
Smoking that weed, you know what I mean?
For so.
Like, I get it.
Like, I understand people's struggles, people's stories.
Like, I lived it.
And a lot of my family is still living it.
You know, I'm still in it in a lot of ways.
And so, hey, love God and love people, not just people.
Well, Miles, we appreciate you for joining us.
What you want to play up the album?
Let's play the method, man.
All right, let's play the method, man, featuring E40 and La Cray, man, from the west to the world.
Let's get it.
And the album is out today.
The album is out right now.
Right now.
To the name of the album.
Oh, Villal Rosa.
They say I'm Latino, but I'm not.
Yeah, Villarosa, that's right.
It's Miles Minnick.
Hold on, what does that mean anyway?
Yeah, Vyodor Rosa, it translates to the pathway or the sorrowful road.
It's literally the road that Jesus walked on when he's carrying his cross.
Are you Mexican?
I am ethnically ambiguous, you know what I'm saying?
Shout out to my Mexicans, but I'm not Mexican.
I'm half black, half white.
Why you don't ever say Jesus Christ?
Jesus Christo.
Jesus Christo.
I do.
I do.
Yeah, yeah.
We got Jesus Christo.
hats and all of that popping off but yeah that's hard i see that i just realized that's
jesus testimony with the new oh you see that you see that that's all that i just realized it's
jesus on the cross new york that's all look i'm look give me a mail in the dress i'm going to send you
a pack yeah for sale somewhere people get them right um christlike collection dot com and we got a pop up
today in san francisco let's get it all right it's miles middick it's the breakfast club good morning
Yeah.
Hold on.
Every day I wake up.
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