The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Monaleo and Stunna 4 Vegas On Breaking Generational Curses, Getting Married, Trauma, DaBaby + More

Episode Date: October 15, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club. Monaleo and Stunna 4 Vegas On Breaking Generational Curses, Getting Married, Trauma, DaBaby. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Breakfast Club. Yep, it's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. Shalameen to God, Jess Hilarious, DJ Envy. Envy had to step out, but L.L. Coobe, Lauren LaRosa, is here, and we got some special guests. man. Big stunner for Vegas. Big Montalayo. What's happening? How y'all are y'allel out there?

It's Mona Leo. Mono. Okay, I'm sorry. Mona Leo. I'm retarded. Mono Leo. Good morning. But I love your music. Thank you. By the way, I can't pronounce the title of it either. I call it, you ain't black. What's the call?

I'll take that. But I did study what it was, though. Solarian is a, I'm saying it right, right? Solon. Solon. Solon. Solani. It's a new way to describe blackness. Black American. Yeah. Exactly.

Exactly. So it's like an interpretation of like black culture, black history, and it relates to, like, descendants of slaves specifically. I love it. So that's what the term represents. Yeah. I want to say congratulations on the wedding. Thank you. The tie and the night, the baby, the family, everything. Congratulations, King.

I appreciate it. Yeah. And congratulations to you, too, beautiful. All pink wedding. Yep. You agreed to it, huh? Yeah. You said, man.

Happy wife, happy life. He did. I didn't suggest it. He didn't suggest it. Yeah, but I agreed to it. Okay. So that's obviously your favorite color. Yes.

It's always accent sent in all your videos I see. Everything. Like you love it. The only color that I wear. Okay. How did you get him? Your husband to agree to that? I was trying to tell him.

I was like, we can compromise if you want to do red. She didn't have to do all that, though. You do pink. It's her dad, you feel me. I was with it. Right, right. She ain't had to do all that. You just love.

But you love her so much. You like shit. I'm going to just give her what she went. Oh, I love that. What made you finally want to settle down, Stuner? We being settled down. It's just like we put it on the Internet just last month. Being together like four years for sure.

Oh, dope, dope. My first year meeting her, though, was like kind of when I was taking a break, falling back from, like, the slime light or whatever. Anything I was going through, she probably, I mean, probably she, like, helped me get through whatever, then. Mm-hmm. everything like a homeboy real yeah you know she was the one immediately like yeah easy like you like god told you like man you don't lock this one down easy and that black

woman behind you i know that's right yeah how did you know he was the one yeah he was just she was already a fan of me god he can't be so humble like she didn't have to answer was her She was a fan of me That didn't mean that I knew he was the one I just felt like he was very He was just as intentional as I was And I really appreciated that And he took good care of me

The same way I wanted to take care of him So I feel like we were on the same page At the same time I love that What was the beauty of keeping everything off the internet Like what did It was on the internet It's just like they chose to bite down

When they did We've been popping out though Yeah We've been But it's just pretend Protecting our, something that's personal to us. It's something that we care about and we love. So it was like protecting our relationship was super important.

But we both have supporters that have been with us on our journeys. So it was important to include them in these pivotal moments in our life like the wedding. I feel like that was a no-brainer. Like so many people support us and love us and have been rooting for our union. So it was important for us to invite them virtually to the wedding. You had us crying, girl, when you posted the moment with your dad. I was like I literally was like oh my God and you talked about him going through his cancer battle and getting to see you married and like wow like that was really emotional

for me so just speak to like kind of you know you know why is an emotional of you because my mom is a stage for a cancer survivor and one of the things that she's always asked me um why did you ask me that question okay her thing is now is like she's like I've been sick before where I want to see you be able to do things. I don't know if I'll be able to be here tomorrow. So when you posted that, I was like, dang, like, time is of the essence. Like, it made me start thinking, like, wow, I want my mom to be able to see me get married and have kids.

And, you know, like, I don't think people understand the cancer battle how scary that gets. That's true. Your mom will see you be successful before she see you get married. Shut up, I just went through that out there. Why did you make me crying? You just trying to share out. But when I saw your post and I read the caption, it just really made me think. Because, you know, when, you know, parents are always trying to be like superheroes.

Always. Yeah. So even through my mom's cancer battle, she was like, it's going to be fine. Just make sure you get some grandbabies here because I want to see my grandbabies. But when I read that, I'm like, oh, like, this is serious. Like, I've got to figure this out. So serious. It was such an important moment for me to share with my dad.

And so I'm so glad you brought that up at the top of the interview because I can't wait for him to hear this. But even during his cancer battle, he was very secretive. private. He didn't tell anybody for his six months. Obviously, I feel like me being kind of tapped in spiritually, I felt like something was going on with him. But he never had explicitly told me that he was battling cancer. I just saw him deteriorating in a sense. Like, he was getting smaller and his hair was going. And I was just like, Dad, what's going on with you? Like, and he was distancing himself from me. Our son wouldn't even go to him no more.

My son wouldn't, and my son loves my dad. But he was. he didn't every time my dad picked him up he would be crying and I was just like that something's going on and I just kind of pressured him a little bit and I was like tell me tell me what's wrong or or else and he and he showed me his scans and I could see he had a real zoomed in so that I couldn't see that it said Hodgkin's lymphoma but when I I took his phone and I literally took I running down the street and I zoomed out and I saw that it said Hodgkins and phoma and I just bust out crying because it was such anymore I never seen my dad cough sneeze me

either have a cold none of the things so to know that he was that he was battling cancer um without my full support yeah really touch me and it really really really hurt me but thankfully he um he's beat cancer praise god yeah afterwards he i guess the chemotherapy had done a number on his heart so he was he had heart failure and he had to have a triple bypass surgery that he also wasn't clear about either one thing by my dad he is truly Superman like he doesn't want to he doesn't want people worried about him even if it's something that I should be concerned about he doesn't want us to be worried about him so when I found out what he was battling I was so emotional and I was so all over the place so and I kind of

put if I'm being candid it put it made me want to expedite this the process for everything because I realized like I don't know what I was waiting on I think it was I was feeling the pressures from society and I'm like maybe I'm too young to be doing this and you know you think about all these things in your mind and then that kind of really snapped me back to reality and it made me live for myself and for my family for my village for my community so it kind of made me want to expedite the wedding process

and we did it and to have my dad walking down the aisle would be there yeah yeah walking me down the aisle was a dream yeah why do y'all think the adults older adults feel like keeping that from the kids is the right thing to do like why fight a battle like that alone it's scary it's like a nightmare yeah i don't think he knew i think he wanted to

keep hope yeah but he was diagnosed at stage three stage three four so he i think he was optimistic but i truly think he didn't know and i think he wanted me to you know focus on my tour and my career he didn't want me to leave and abandon what I was doing because he know I would have done that nothing more important to me than my family you have a song on your mixtape Diary of an OG yeah and when even that song too I was thinking about it's you're the oldest girl I'm the oldest girl yes and you talk about the responsibility of being the oldest girl in your family and not being able to think about yourself and that made me think about your relationship with your dad and everything you went through as well while having a career

because another thing too I think why like the older people have hide it is because they know drop of a dime you're not on tour no more you're not dropping songs like i'm not doing nothing yeah i'm not complying with anything career related i would have dropped to everything to be at his side every single day every chemotherapy appointment i would have been cooking him meals every day so to a degree i'm grateful that he was selfless in those moments and allowed me to continue following what it is that i'm passionate about because he knows i wouldn't have i wouldn't have I wouldn't even be here. I would have taken a complete,

I wouldn't have recorded any music, videos, photo shoot. Nothing would have mattered to me other than making sure that he was okay. So I think now that time has passed. I feel like maybe he did make the right decision. And this year I was upset because I was like, Dad, I want to be there for you.

This is a really scary time in your life. And he didn't tell anybody, not my siblings, not his mom. He didn't tell anybody other than his wife. So it was just them too. And she had just lost her mom. so it was really difficult for them to manage at the time so I'm so and I'm glad Charlemagne that you talk about therapy as much as you do because he's in therapy now

and we're getting back to a place of trusting each other and loving each other and supporting each other and I feel like the wedding was just a way to extend olive branches to everybody in our village and our community so I'm glad that he was there it's incredible how God works because you know that one situation which could be deemed is negative led to all of this positive. You know, it said it made you put your gas, press the gas on your career, it made y'all get married.

And I'm gonna tell you something. When I look at y'all, man, forget to look. When I'm sitting next to y'all, I can feel an energy. The family. Like, y'all, yeah, y'all are a unit. Like, it's something, like, y'all are supposed to be together. Like, even looking at stun.

I'm like, I think of Proverbs 1822, man, when a man find a good wife, man, you know, he gained a different favor from the Lord. Like, I even see something different in your spirit. Oh, yeah, I do too. I already know, though, Because I'm, like, I'm, like, deeply involved through, like, how she is spiritual, so I wouldn't know. And when we saw you get emotional, right?

What were your thoughts? I was, like, down. Yeah. I was, like, looking at gangsters in the crowd crying, you feel me? I was looking at my mama, my dad that I just met, feel me? Her grandma, because even her family and me alone, like, after the wedding, it's, like, both of our family's family now. but like before it was i was already like this with her dad grandma grandpa great grandpa all on i was just like getting ready for her to walk out you feel me and that's what it was like

because i was crying before she walked out when she did i was just like damn it's like i've been through a lot of stuff you feel and i don't like get on the internet to uh public make it public i don't i don't i don't i don't i don't i don't i don't i don't really do nothing but deal with it you feel me on my own too so it was just like all that was just like man all that shit out the window now like this what i'm walking into when she were walking down it was just like i let everything go that she want me to let go so that i'll be mad about one month and be fine with it the next and like i'll just let it go because this all that matter you said your father you had just met yeah i just met my dad uh on father's today

What? No cap. No cow. I met him on father's day. My wife got me to do a DNA ancestry kid. Ancestry kid, yeah. We was doing that. As we getting ready for the wedding, I'm like, boom.

I probably ain't talked to my grandma, my mom in like 10 years. Ain't hugged or nothing. Family too, like uncles and aunts. But it always been me and my mom. Like, my siblings had their dad, so they'll go live with them if we, anything, got to go to a shelter or whatever. if they're just me and my mama so i'm like telling my wife like damn i want my family to be at the wedding i want my mama to be there with her mama my aunt my uncle like that's how i grew up

around family whatever i'm doing it we're doing the ancestry kid probably a month before we go sit down with my family i'm like i'm about to sit my mama my grandparents down my uncle's aunts all that long story short that was like not meant to happen and that same day I was just like damn it'll never be like what it's supposed to be with my family again it was like 5 o'clock in the morning we was in north Carolina because that's where we were meeting up with everybody my wife woke me up like man babe I'm finding your cousins right now like on my dad's side the ancestry kid had hit like that night or that day the results came back the day that I tried to sit my mama down with her mom, brother, and sister, and it went left.

Then we found a few cousins. They was telling me, you look like this guy, you look like this guy, you look like this guy. We went on a month trying to find my dad, and then on Father's Day. We got a... I hired a genealogist to interpret the... To interpret the ancestry DNA results. Yep. And it took her about six weeks to give us the full report.

and then when she sent the full report back she said that his dad could be one of these three people and there were three brothers and so we kind of went down the line and I called she had numbers listed and emails I reached out to everybody the only person that I was able to contact was his grandmother and initially they thought it was like a scam

they were like why are you calling us and I was like listen we don't want any we don't want child support we want anything we are well off people we just want to mend the relationship between him and who we believe is his dad. And so we kind of went through the three different options, his two uncles and his dad.

No, we called my first, we called the first option. We called it the first option. And the genealogist had him listed as the first option because he was the closest in age to his mom. So we initially thought that it was his uncle. So we FaceTime them. They didn't all the way look alike, but they had some sort of similarity.

So we were like, hey, you know, we're just trying to figure this out. And he was like, hey, I don't think. it's me but it might be my brother because I think he looks more like my brother and then we face time um we know face time with him later on father's day and when it was all at my grandma when there was all his grandmother's house and him and his dad they looked just alike and the synergy was there immediately and we flew out the next day he's from his dad's from detroit we flew out the next day we met his dad he met his rest of his family and his dad was his siblings he found that he had two a brother and a sister that he didn't know about um so

So this has been almost 30 years that he didn't know his dad. So for them to be able to reconnect right before the wedding was, so it was a lot of emotions going on. When people see the clip, they think it's like, oh, he just up there, tour up about his wife. And I think that to a degree he was emotional, but there were so many different things going on. There were so many different reasons for us to be happy crying that day.

So. How old has that made you feel, son? I don't know yet. I don't know yet. I don't know yet. That's honest. That's honest. The conversations between your dad and are they like what you dreamed of or did you want,

like, you know, were you nervous with this whole process? Nah, I don't think so. I feel like. I think there were a little bit of nerves. Yeah. But I'm just like a difficult person to deal with. I don't know. I mean, like, you know, like, I mean, like, as far as.

Nothing, like, against my dad, though. But I just don't, I don't know how it made me feel. Sometimes he called, he's going to see this and be like, sometimes he calls, and I might not even know, like, what we should talk about, so I might not ask. And I, I call her dad, though, immediately. Yeah. Like, whatever, as soon as we leave out of here, I'm going to call him, probably, like,

or he going to call me, we talk. It's like, we got the relationship that I was, like, looking for for a long time because I was in there with him when she when she was at work I was going to chemotherapy I'll be whatever I need he going to pick up he going to drop whatever I asked him to drop for me right then and there so he kind of like filled the void before my dad could come in and like feel it but it was just good also to meet my dad and see like we look alike he looked my son look like him you feel me we walk alike I met my grandma I got a sister my age you learn a lot about yourself though because you can be dealing with physical health issues

mental health issues and not even nowhere but your dad might have been dealing with you learn a lot about yourself when you connect those guys I think it was a nerve-wracking experience too like just for me trying to facilitate I was really nervous because I didn't know how his dad would receive him and receive the situation as a whole I was just hoping that he wanted to connect as badly as son I wanted to connect that was my main goal

I guess in my mind because you never really know how people will receive things some people will be like oh no I'm not dealing with this it's too much but I think it's been difficult for both of them to process it

and his dad as well like how do you really process having a son and not knowing that you had a son for almost 30 years that was my next question did he not know? And then he's an artist

but he was telling us too he was like I've seen I've seen him before I know his music He was able to tell us some of the songs that he did that he really liked. So it was just like, I could tell he was stunned. He had no clue. He had no idea, though.

Because if you look him up, he's from, you will see that he's from North Carolina. His dad had never been to North Carolina. He had met his mom in Atlanta. And they were young. Things happened. They moved apart. She was pregnant. She moved back home to North Carolina to kind of go throughout her pregnancy.

So it was like he. there was never really he never really knew anything about him yeah so i imagine that that's a lot for him to process as well and his mom as well too because i know that she lives with some of those feelings and like you know just being young and being a human being and making mistakes but not really a mistake because i needed him so it's not i don't perceive it as a mistake yeah so it's like it's a lot for everybody to process in this experience so i'm just trying to be the glue in this situation and keep us all close, keep us connected and keep us

in this healing process. Well, y'all some generational curse-breaking mother. I'm telling you. You're a great one girl. I'm telling you. I'm just saying general, some generational curse breakers. I love that.

And that's what we live. That's what we swear by. That's what we like stand on. That's what we swear by. Where does that come from? Because in your music, we're really black. Yes.

Like, we're really black. That's what it comes from. Are you raised that way? That's not like. Where does it come from? For sure. I have a family full of matriarchs, full of very strong matriarchs, my mother, both of my grandmothers, my stepmother.

I have a family full of women who are the glue for their families. So I have a really good example of, like, how to keep a family together. And I think they've done a lot for our family. But with me, I feel like my purpose is to usher in change and bring about a certain type of energy that is real and that's raw and that's unapologetic and if that means we are often to put our mess on a table that's what we have to do

so that we can really get somewhere because I love my son with everything in me and I don't want him to experience half of the things that I experienced growing up I want him to have a pure life and so I want to if that means uncovering everybody's secret and just my son deserves to know his grandparents his grandfather his he deserves to have a relationship with everybody that is healthy so whatever

I have to do to bring in these healthy relationships I'm willing to do all I want to do is raise trauma-free kids that's all I want to do please God is give you the power and the ability to raise for trauma-free young lady please that's it that's because I can only imagine what that looks like I don't imagine what that will look like on my son as an adult. I can't wait to see, you know, the fruits of my labor. I can't wait to see how he grows up to be. And like, I don't really know very many people in my life. Just as a young black American, southern black American girl, I don't know many people in my life who haven't experienced some sort of trauma. So I'm excited to see what that

looks like on him. And I just want him to be everything that he wants to be, astronaut, a school bus drop, Whatever you want to be, I just want to be here to facilitate that in the healthiest way. Yeah. Now, are you in therapy, Stunning? No. But I'll be talking to her, so I'd be like, I don't really need that type of stuff. Because she can get me to a point where I'm not mentally, like, out of it. So I'd be, like, kind of like, maybe I don't need it like that.

We tried therapy, though. We did premarital counseling before we got married. And then you did your own individual therapy before we did pre-marital counseling. One time, though. You did, yeah, one time. That's a start, though. It's just a start. It's a start.

It takes a minute to get people. I grew up hospitalized in different mental health institutions, and I grew up in therapy. I really struggled with my mental health growing up. So that was kind of, it's not that it was normalized, but my grandmother, she works at a mental health hospital. So she was always diagnosing, and, you know, I grew up. medication. Like I really grew up trying to fix whatever was wrong with me. So that's something that was normal for me. But when we got in our relationship, it wasn't really a thing that was talked about with him. So I try to encourage him to do therapy. And I think he's coming

around to it for sure. It's not that he's anti-therapy. I think he's coming around to it for sure. But I think his main priority is just surviving. Yeah. So I'm a- And you got to find it right therapist you might not have found out. That too. That's right. I feel like that too. That's true. But I think we've really reached. In the new podcast, Hell in Heaven, two young Americans moved to the Costa Rican jungle to start over. But one will end up dead. The other tried for murder. Not once. People went wild. Not twice. Stunned. But three times. John and Ann Bender are rich attractive, and they're devoted to each other. They create a nature reserve and build a spectacular, circular home high on the top of a hill.

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I don't think feel like something has to happen and then you go to therapy I think you should be in therapy period just to process what it is that you've experienced in your life but we're slowly but surely we're coming around to it but I'm really proud of him for the man that he's become his sobriety journey like there's so many things that people don't know

come and bring me a big bottle and head of seat in no no not sobriety from liquor We're not. We're talking my hard drugs. I don't take perks. I don't take perks. I don't sip syrup. I used to do that every day before I ate.

Like, real talk. And not saying I don't know like making it cool. Yeah. Because even when I was doing that, I don't think I was making it cool. I think I was like doing therapy. Yeah. And when I met her, I kind of found out that like, damn, that's all that was. Because I started going to the gym.

I went and pick up a perk, a bottle of nothing. Like, even now. I don't like to drink unless I'm with her. I don't smoke. That's not crazy. That's something bad. No, but he feels safe. We like to turn up.

Yeah. Yeah. I do want to ask that. What did Stunner do that made you feel so safe and protected? I think he showed this level of care that I hadn't experienced yet. Yeah. That southern hospitality that I hadn't experienced yet. Like I said, I went through a lot growing up.

I was abused. please put a trigger warning on this too because I don't I'm not here to trauma dump but I'm just being candid because I prayed for this opportunity to get on breakfast club I actually wrote it in my journal five years ago 2020 I wrote this in my journal I will be on breakfast club before I was even putting music out so I'm just making sure that I do my due diligence to my younger self because I told myself I was going to be here and I'm here and I want to seize this opportunity to be candid and clear and concise I went through a lot growing up so and I feel like there was a lot of neglect and that's not to shame anyone or shame my parents but they were young and they were learning and my experience is my experience and what happened to me happened to me and I can't erase that so I want to be clear about that too because sometimes I feel like when you talk about certain things especially in the black community it's like what happens in the house stays in the house and I want to free myself from those experiences as I grow into this woman that I'm becoming, I experienced some things,

some abuse, things happened to me that should have never happened to me. So when I met him and I didn't feel taking advantage of, I felt celebrated, I felt appreciated, and I felt valued. Yeah. So that made me feel like this is where I belong. This is where I should be in his family. They were receptive. We went through. through our things, but we, they reminded me a lot of my family. So we had so many similarities that we shared. And I was just like, this feels like home for me. Since we're having this conversation,

is it true that you attempted suicide in the fourth grade? I did. As a baby, you're a baby. I'm going to do a lot more now. Yeah. it's more she don't been through i i go down the list myself she don't know i do not she she doesn't do a lot i was a baby that was another thing that when i got around she wasn't like trauma dumping on me but it was like she'd be telling me stuff and i'd be like

man i would just with you it's four fire niggas over there yeah like in north carolina we could see a bum getting beat a woman and we're gonna go do something to the man or taking advantage of women i'm not i'm not i'm saying like that's what made me be like man not not even that i just wanted to protect it myself i just wanted to show like i swear god that shit won't happen again like yeah you don't have to do that you won't have to do this won't nobody come looking for you want nobody put in none of that will ever happen again yeah he was very protective but yeah that i was i i don't know well i guess i was i was experiencing a lot as a kid that I really couldn't process

and I knew it didn't feel good I didn't know exactly what was happening but I knew it was like this feels wrong to me and I really struggled with my self-worth my self-confidence and I was just like why am I here and I was feeling like that very young

fourth grade that's true that's my that was my earliest well third grade is when those feelings started and then fourth grade is when I like started like okay let me figure out what I can do to not be here anymore so it started in fourth grade and then it progressed through middle school through high school but I'm so grateful that I don't feel that way anymore I think residually those feelings they kind of come up because it was so much of my life I was I just kind of got accustomed to feel them to

You know, I had indoctrinated all of these negative feelings and thoughts about myself. So it got to a point where I was like, this is my being. This is my core being. I don't like who I am. To the core, I hate who I am and what people have done to me. And I felt like I deserved it at a point in time. But I know that's not true now. Your trauma is never your fault.

Never. Your healing is your responsibility. Healing is my responsibility. So when was that pivot? When did you realize? I was like I got it I got a hill I think I got to a point where I was like I'm tired of feeling this way about myself like there has to be more to life for me than just waking up every day and hating my existence it has to be more to life and I started journaling because I had already gone through therapy and in my mind I told myself therapy doesn't work this medication doesn't work um a lot of it was what do you call it like hardwired, so my grandmother's struggle with her own battles, my mother's struggle, my sibling's struggle, it's kind of like, I don't want to say it's hereditary, but maybe it is.

Maybe it's hereditary, so it was like, I got to a point where I was like, I can't do this anymore, like I want to, I see everybody enjoying their life, I'm ready to enjoy my life. I'm ready to experience it in a lens that isn't coming from this trauma. Like, I want to see what life really has for me. And I started journaling. I started making music in that process and really venting my frustrations and just kind of journaling via this rap via rap. Yeah. And it started off his rap.

I never thought I was going to be a rapper, but it started off with rap because I was in that angry phase of my healing. I was just mad at the world, mad at everybody for letting me down. mad at my parents, mad at people who did things to me, just mad at everybody. It was everybody's fault. So rap was like my first real outlet because I was able to vent these frustrations

in a very aggressive way. And it still helps me though, to this day. Like I still will make a real aggressive record. But I feel like it's helping me come to a calmer place. In the weirdest way, it's like this weird juxtaposition. I'll make the most aggressive song. And I'm like, all right, I'm good.

I'm chilling for the rest of it. I could chill now. Yeah. Yeah. Now, you said your grandmother, she worked in a mental institution. So, and you said she even had her own mental issues as well. Do you think there was some correlation between where she was working or do you think that was before her, deeply rooted for her too?

I think it's just generational, generational curses. Her mother had her at 14. Oh, yeah. My great-grandmother, and she's my great-grandmother is still alive to the day. Thank God. She was here. She was here during the wedding. She had her at 14.

So God knows what she experienced. Gotcha. And you have had these conversations with her? I've had these conversations with everybody. I'm one of the people we're going to talk. Yeah. I'm going to talk with my whole family because I want to get down to the bottom of why do we act this way? Yeah.

What's happening? Like what has made us behave this way? And then she did her part, but she kind of, I feel like she kind of ran to a degree. Like she left her hometown. She went to college and she really put a lot of effort into her studies. and she works. She's a workaholic to this day. She refuses to retire.

Yeah. And she's had two strokes. She refuses to retire because she just, I notice it's her way of coping with everything that it is that she deals with the pressures and the stresses of being a matriarch. And then I feel like that trickled down to my mom. And my mom struggled with her own battles growing up. And even as an adult, and I feel like as an adult, her having me, I caught the, I caught, the the the I caught a little bit of what she was struggling with you know and that's not to that's to humanize her if anything because I feel like we especially young black girls oldest girls oldest girls they're him they were he'll they were here me and they would understand where I'm coming from as an older as an older sister you are kind of you're adultified

and you don't really get to experience your childhood the way that you're supposed to and I always feel like that and it was because of like I said my mom was struggling with her own things and I hope when she hears this she knows that it's not to pass judgment on her

I love my mother like she's my baby I love her and it's not to be judgment towards her, but it's just to open up the space to have these conversations that are so uncomfortable to have. But I want her to know that I'm proud of her for doing what she could with us. And I think things happen in the process and all we can do is move forward and heal and learn to love each other through our struggles, through our mishaps, So I think it's been passed down from generation to generation,

but it definitely stops with me. Yeah, trauma runs in your family until it runs into you. So they're running to me. And I believe that our parents, they were just trying to survive. I feel like we're the first generation that has the luxury of healing. Like, you know, they didn't have the resources that we got now. Yeah. We weren't talking about no anxiety and depression in DDS back then.

And these resources are readily available to us. And they're promoted almost. I feel like I've seen a rise in people promoting, taking care of your mental health. And I love that. And I also have my own organization, say one more day, where I promote people healing and focusing on staying another day until you get to a point where you're happy to be here. Well, you're definitely supposed to be here. Thank you. It was God's plan for you not to take your life in the fourth grade at eight years old.

You are a baby. you know so I'm glad that you are here and then you're breaking generational curses so when you got pregnant what was that like because now you're a mother you know and you replay things in your mind

like oh my God I grew up this way I'm not going to allow my son or my daughter because you didn't know what you were having at that time I didn't know but I kind of knew to a degree because I had a dream one thing about me I'm a dreamer I feel like these spirits they come to me in these dreams my friends I had a dream to dream to my home girl

who passed away her name is Zayvon. She told me in a dream that I was pregnant and that I was having a boy the month that I conceived my son. So I feel like I kind of knew. And she told me that one too. Yeah, I told him that too. Like a regular dream.

Like Blay Zabon came in my dream last night and told me we having a boy. Yeah. So y'all planned baby boy. Well, yeah, we did because we had a, candidly speaking, we had a miscarriage at first

about nine months before then. And that also, and I'll talk about this a lot too. And also, it's like, I talk about a lot of shit I'm not trying to be the spokesperson for anything either I want to make that very clear I'm just telling your life I'm just detailing my experiences so I don't want it which is going to help it's going to help it's going to help because I you don't realize how many people go through

these things until you meet somebody who's ready to talk about it and I'm ready to talk about it yeah there was a lot of I had been told that I had these cysts and then I went to I got multiple different evaluations they were like oh yeah you have a cysts it's five centimeters six six centimeters need to be removed immediately and then other people other doctors were like oh I don't see any sis so it was just like it was so much going on at the time so when I found out that I was pregnant with my son I was very protective over that process and I didn't even announce that I was pregnant until I was eight months yeah and then when we had them we had a home birth at amazing we had it in our kitchen and my grandmother was there my mother was there both my grandmother's

actually his mom was there his sisters my brother was there his brother my dad was there it was a whole and it was a very strange experience because it was such a vulnerable experience for me but again

it was one of those things that was like I feel like I feel called to do this because my mother and my grandmother my mother had all C-sections with all her kids they told her she would never be able to deliver naturally or like vaginally they told her she would never be able to do that

And that's a lie, too, by the way, it's a lie. They told my wife there for our second daughter, and she had our next two, actually. They told me the same thing. They told me the same thing. Literally told me the same thing. And then my grandmother, she almost died having my mom. She only has one child, which is my mom, and she almost died having her. So she never had any other kids.

So it was important for me to heal that trauma for the matriarchs in my family and show them that. Because when I first told them, they were like, what are you thinking about? Like, you've got out of the baby at home. Are you sure? They were telling her that she needed to. That she might have to do a C-section, too. Yeah, they were telling me. And her mom was telling her that.

And the doctors were telling me that. Y'all might shouldn't do it in my house. But I don't want to advise anybody against any doctor's orders because there are doctors out there that are diligent and that are thorough with the work that they do. But, again, I'm just going up of what I feel called to do. And very early on within, like, the first six or 12 weeks of me being pregnant with my son, I was, like, going back and for it. I was like, no, I'm doing a home birth. Yeah. So I got a midwife.

I got a doula and I have my family. That's the best way. We got a doler for our third and fourth. That's the best way you. Y'all had natural birth or y'all just had a doula at the hospital to advocate for y'all. My wife had a natural birth not because she wanted to on the third one. It was happening so fast.

Yeah, it was something going on with the hospital where it was, she always gets mad because I tell the story wrong, but it was something they couldn't get the epidurals or something like that. So she ended up having a natural but she just decided to get a dula for the third and fourth just because it's so hard when black women go to the hospital. Like you can't play with that shit. The way the black maternal that freight is exactly so that was all that was on my mind I wanted to take

care of myself yeah so now you got your music yep and then you you you turn your you know your pain into a beautiful you know oh you know y'all got something in common didn't you study mortuary science I do okay so was a mortuary she worked who did the right it makes sense well you studied mortuary science girl I went for one semester yeah and I couldn't do it was too much it was too much the whole embalment it didn't you know limbs still a lot if you do too much how was you in there doing all that she cut somebody and they jump yeah girl they fart that will happen like all they scream they let out these

noises yeah they let out noises yeah the nerves are like settling basically yeah so they jerk and they move and they imagine all of that and then imagine your ad paw is the one and you working and you're chilling and you go on break and you got your back turn and then you look you see out to give somebody sitting up that it's a little you know and they like that can happen You see the dead body sit up? No, I did not see a dead body. I've heard. When I was in mortuary school, they told us that that was a possibility.

But I never seen that personally. But I have seen like, you know, bodies jerk and move and make these noises and these liquids will come out. Like, I've seen the whole thing. And so you actually went through the whole thing. I didn't graduate. Okay. Because I started rapping midway through. And then I was like, all right, bet.

I'm doing this one. Yeah. I didn't graduate because I got scared. I understand it. I thought it was in school. I thought it was just you was working at a mortuary. First of all, no. But you have to, you have to internship during your school.

By the time you graduate, you have to have been done. Or else you can't graduate. You have to finish your internship. So you do it while you're in school. Right. To get your hours. To get your hours, yeah. Got you.

You're bad, didn't you, but? Yeah. Yeah, I am. Because you start with life after death and then it just, and then who did the body. I was like, what is her thing with like life after death? Literally. Like, it's kind of all sensitive. around it and it's very like churchy Baptist church it is exactly I'm like it

feels like a funeral at first and then it goes into a whole different world exactly I did I did so culturally I feel like this project for me culturally who did the body you know when black people go to a funeral we're like if the body look good or bad where I was like who did the body yes to see which funeral home I don't want to get cremated you don't ever stop judging boy never if you get you're like who did the body he's like who did the body Like it's one of the two. So culturally it was relevant, but also like, like I was just talking about, I had so many, I've just had a really weird experience with life. Yeah.

And I've also had weird experiences with death. So this project for me was kind of liberating me in that sense and freeing me from the fears of death. But we're all, and just also talking about just opening up that conversation about grief in our community and insurance and that type of stuff. Like that was important to me to highlight with this project. So it's, and it is very Southern Baptist. I grew up Baptist. My grandmother was, she was a youth minister on my dad's side. So she made me singing the church every Sunday.

I had no choice. Even if I was nervous or scared, I had no choice. So those are really my roots. I grew up with a praying grandmother. So those are truly, truly, truly my roots. So I wanted to just highlight Southern Black American culture with this project. And how do they feel about you doing this secular music now? You know, they.

My granny cussed, though. So it's like, she, you know, you know how Baptist people are. It's like, we're real Baptist, but outside of church, we like to turn up and have a good time. So it's like, my granny, she cussed. She was crazy. She is crazy. So I know it's like she can find a little bit of herself in it. I am my grandmother's baby.

So it's like, where did I learn this from? But other than you and my mom, I got this from y'all. So how can you really be? They love it. They support it. What did Jesus turn the water into wine for if not for apart? If not for a party. You know what I'm saying?

Not for a good turn up. You know what I mean? Hello. Okay. Or maybe for a different taste. You know, they only had water back then. He probably like, let's say something else. But I'm saying you could have turned into apple juice, orange juice, any other things.

Wine. He was trying to turn up and I feel him, bro. I feel him. Okay. Now, beating down your block, that was my anthem for like three years. Yeah. I'm not playing. Did you expect that song to be as big as it?

I expected it to change my life. I don't know about, I didn't know exactly what the parameters. what the parameters. I didn't know how big it was going to get, but I knew it was going, I knew it was pivotal in my life. And when I talk about journaling and writing that I was going to be on breakfast club,

this is around the time that I made that song. I was like, yeah, I'm going to be on breakfast club. I'm going to be getting an interview. I'm being plaques. Like, I knew I had a feeling in my bones that that song was going to change my life. And it did just that. I love it.

And I'm at that second phase, too, I feel like these next few songs that I'm dropping in this project, I feel like it's also going to elevate my life. I feel like even Sexy Solon has elevated my life to a degree with all the good and the bad talk about it. And also, thank you, Charlemagne, for posting that for me. I appreciate you for exposing that to an audience who might not have seen that, an older audience that,

like my dad, my mom's generation, who might not have seen it. I feel like it definitely is taking my life to a new tier as well, new fans, new levels. It causes conversation too. It causes conversation, which was fine. I'm cool with the good. I'm cool with the bad. It was, I just wanted to usher in the conversation.

What I love about it, you were still a little too nice. She was like, you were just telling the non-black people to go to the bag. You didn't say, get out. No. You just say, just go to the bad. I just said, create a level of, you know, separation to a degree. I'm not trying to segregate it because I'm just saying, like, give us our space to congregate, frattenize, fellowship for two minutes.

I wanted to create a space for black Americans to turn up and have a good time. Black people in general. Because I know people were like, well, is this for Black Americans? is for it was like I wanted to promote black unity and black community which is why you see me depicted cloaked in this black American heritage flag which I want to encourage people to support and buy straight from the source you can get it on black letic wear black ledics not sponsored by the way not smart said at all I just want to I saw people were buying the flag and you can kind of buy these dupes from like

Amazon and different like Chinese vendors and I want to encourage people to shop straight from the source which is where black letics he could he collaborated His name is Rodney. He collaborated with Joy, who is the daughter of Melvin Charles, who was a co-creator of the Black American Heritage Flag. So, and I had to talk with her earlier this week because I, well, a couple weeks ago, because I wanted to make sure that I had the origin story of the Black American Heritage Black, Correct, which is basically they created it in 1967 to basically acknowledge Black Americans

for their contributions to America. And it also just create some representation because at the time we were being identified as Negroes like they didn't really want to acknowledge this people we didn't have our own flag we were kind of like they were paying us dust and so they created this flag so that we can fly it and represent the black American culture and our contributions to this country so and a lot of people at the time didn't really resonate with the American flag either so it was like we had something of our own so you see me cloaked in the black American heritage flag in the video but then you also see the flags behind me the ethnic flags behind me stitched together um not

Nigerian flags and, you know, and I wanted to make sure, what was important to me was, like I said, to promote black unity and black community because under the umbrella of white supremacy and racism, we are all black here in this country and cops pull us over. Then I asked you, here, are you Jamaican? that's a fact are you where you from they're not asking that you're just black so i wanted to detail these shared experiences across the diaspora and i know it's upset a couple of people which i i can understand to a degree because i feel like black americans we want so badly to be represented and we want something of our own because it feel like people have taken from our culture and i understand that to a degree and still do so i understand the frustration about incorporating the other flags but I'm just here to detail what I was trying to depict and that was Black unity and Black community

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And all I saw was reaction video The People Upset Yeah Oh yeah, they was mad He literally did that in here Like how was like I was like is this really It's mad already

I'm like when this song came out It was only six days ago Exactly they were mad I was I expected White people to be mad I really don't give a damn What right people think about me I expected for them to be mad

I got that That made sense to me Because white people His thing with white people And it's not that I'm saying That all white people are bad Right you know they be seeing my black I got a black best friend my best friend is white

yeah you know yeah just taking the page out of their but so it's not that I'm saying white people are bad but I think she wasn't in the video she wouldn't she was there she had to see in the back she had every other video she's in Latino somebody said that to me this morning they was like she got a Latino best friend oh my god just because she's had it I promise you somebody said that she's so misunderstood Shout out to KT. That's my best friend. But it's like, I feel like white people, what they need to understand is that they've been conditioned a certain type of way under this, because I feel like racism is a fundamental issue.

And they've been conditioned to this certain type of teaching and a certain type of way subconsciously. So I feel like consciously, it needs to be called out and it needs to be. unlearned. That's my only thing that I want to make clear. It's not that I'm saying all white people are bad. So they were mad. I didn't give a damn about that. I didn't care. And they were like, well, what if white people made a song like this? White people have done worse. Let's be clear. They've done way worse in real life. And there is a song, actually. I saw it the other day. It was a song. Or the one about Lynchin? Exactly. Exactly. So it's like, what the hell are we talking about? Yeah. What are we talking about? Um, but yeah, I expected it only would be mad, but I didn't

expect for so many people in my community to be upset. And then I kind of like did my homework and I'm like what is it that is upsetting people and I got down to the root of it and I'm like all right I see what's happening here. I can't listen

I can't do all this. Right. This is too much all I'm going to say is what I wanted to clearly articulate and that was like I said black community, black love, black unity and detail these like I said shared experiences across the diaspora that we can't control our grandmothers are very similar

yeah so i wanted to detail that sometimes you just got to tell people it's a black thing you wouldn't understand yeah you wouldn't get hey it ain't point you don't need an explanation they don't need no explanation it should be actually should be gate kept i think a lot of our culture should be kept close to us because you know white people they keep whatever they want to keep close to them is kept very close to them there's a lot of shit that's kept away from us and i feel like we should have the same pride and integrity about our culture and it's not about being exclusionary, it's just showcasing a level of pride and reverence and respect for what's been put in place historically. You are 24 years old. You are so like just intelligent, brilliant, educating your informative.

Y'all sound like white people. What? You sound like white people. Who sound like white people? Who sound like white people? You all sound like white people. What are you talking about? Because I'm giving another young black woman. Sometimes I'd be like, damn. That don't mean she's white, though. That means you're just an intelligent black woman. Yeah, I guess you don't want a boy Why you say that? Why do you say that? Why do we sound like white people? Yeah, I don't like that. No, no, no, no. I said Stunner said that she'd be sounding like white people using big words.

I'm talking about you just used a couple words that I didn't even know you're like that's what I mean you white That just means she's intelligent. No, no, no before Stunner said that he can say whatever he wants to say about his wife Because you look at her and you said because you look at you know why you know why you look at her and you said Wow, you're 24 years old and you sound so intelligent. I wonder No, I did No, I didn't. You didn't. You didn't say that.

You said your answer, intellectual and that's like, of course how you said. Why wouldn't she be in healthy? I did not say she said, please, I did not say she sound so intelligent. I said, you're 24 years old. You are so intelligent. You're informative. You're educating. Like, it's affirmation.

I did not say that. I don't think she means it. But I don't think she means it. I get what you mean. I think she's going in with all that she's going through. And that could be black or white. And she took about age and the maturity level

when speaking to her And the comprehension Somebody told me the other day When Little John was on the apprentice And Donald Trump used to say Come look at Little John talk Y'all got to hear John He's so intelligent

Oh my God Because you got the dreds Right And the gold grill You know what I mean? I don't think she meant that like that I get what you're saying If it was coming from my

I would be like What you mean by that But I understand Exactly what you mean mean because I think like just especially with the red with the shit that's being pushed on us right now I think I get what you mean like to bring light to these subjects and you know explain some of these topics that we don't really talk about in our generation we don't talk about it we don't hear about it from young people enough you know like that history lesson you just gave us on that

flag you know what I mean that you you intentionally put in your video yeah that's you know what I'm saying like all of that and then everything that you've been through you could have went a whole another way you could have you know what I'm saying yeah for sure I grew up around people and it's so crazy to see the difference in how trauma has affected us and I don't fall in anybody for the path that they chose because you really never I feel blessed I don't know what it was that steered me this way because I could have been I could have done anything in this life because I grew up with people and we all grew up. We started at the same point.

We experienced some of the same things. Some of the people I was hospitalized with, we shared some of the same experiences, and we've all kind of taken different paths. But we still stay closely connected, but it's like this is why I advocate the way that I do because I think people misunderstand my upbringing or they see me or just like,

or they see somebody who's poised and put together and they think, like, or well-spoken, articulate, and they're like, oh, my gosh, she's so like, you know they have no idea the things that I've seen the things I've witnessed things that I've experienced and I admire it it's inspirational like

so yeah I'm definitely glad you answered your call is that Don Julio record is that really about Stunner for Vegas not answering the phone? Yes it was why you ain't answer the phone why you ain't answered the call made a good song a blessing on your line and you ain't pick up Stunner get him I called her back

he called me back halfway through the song and I was up even did no shit like that Yeah, I know, or not even, or just made the song, she just shouldn't have said that in the interview. I shouldn't have, but I was being honest, though. Because everybody's like, you lie. You got to keep up with the lie. So I feel like the first time somebody asked me what was the origin of the song,

I was just like, oh, yeah, this is what happened. Because it was just like the most readily available answer that I had, which was the truth. Maybe I probably shouldn't have said that. But it was true. I mean, he called me back halfway through the song, but I was already knee deep. I was like, oh, no.

I was already, I was vibing I was loving the song, I knew it was a hit There was no point of for her to be I shouldn't say that What was you doing? Why are you answering a video? Oh, oh, well I mean it happens Every now and then it might happen, you know

She said she's looking at you decide out That was his story, he better stick to it Yeah No, I was really shooting the video I was calling him and I was like, why is he not? I don't be doing no sucker shit, bro I don't even like when like a normal person walk up to us and joke about that song

I'd be ready to be like bro, I'll slap the shit out of you. Right. I shouldn't say that. Hopefully it's not nobody with me. For a little brother to be like, bro, we'll slap the shit out of you. For real, I don't, because I don't even play, like, whatever. His bros is crazy.

My best friend sent me that song. This is how my best friend sent me that song when it was like, this is you. Y'all are spirit animals. I was like. Which is line? I'm a sad. Scorpio cuss. Okay.

Yeah. When your birthday? November 22nd. Oh, Fire My Granny's birthday, November 23rd. Oh, so she's fun, but she's fun. Yeah. She's crazy. How did the link up with Lizzo happen?

So she's from Houston. So she reached out to me. She was like, hey, you know, I got to, do you have anything you want me to get on? And I didn't have anything at the time. And I was like, I'm recording this week. I'm recording all week. If I find something, I'll send it to you. And I send it to her.

She sent it right back. Lizzo is so dope. She sent it back same day, which is very rare in this industry. I'm saying that because I don't even be sending shit back the same day. Because I'd be needing to sit with stuff or I'd be needing to get to the studio. Maybe I don't got a studio plan for another two weeks. Like, it just worked out that way. So I'm very appreciative that she sent me that verse back so quick.

I never experienced nothing like, especially from a star like Lizzo, like somebody who is so accomplished like her. I would have thought that she would have gave me to run around. But she was really adamant about doing the song because she was kind of like, she's entering this rap phase. And I'm just happy to facilitate. Yeah. That's dope. Is it true, you and the baby back good, right? We speak.

We speak. I mean, we speak. Yeah, we speak. I heard you facilitated that combo. Is that true? I didn't facilitate that combo. I don't know him personally, but it was like, I was- I facilitated that combo.

Yeah, I was on tour with Don Toller. He was up here talking to you, and he told you, like, that's how we've seen it up in. Even when I reached out to him, I was reaching out to him on some ground. on man shit. Like, I'm gonna take my lick. Like, I was the reason why we separated. Because it was shit going on outside the business. You see me? So I moved around. And when I hit them up, I probably moved around before I hit them up, I moved around with animosity on my chest, you get me. So when I hit them up, it was more so like not getting it off, but it was

definitely like, man, bro, I'm gonna take accountability. Like, I went left. I should have came and spoke to you about certain shit, you feel me, woo-do-oo-do-wo, but there was nothing, like, man, bro, you really? Like, I want to get back to that. Like, this is the only duo I'm worried about. You, see me? So, like, when I was reaching out to him

on some real shit, it's like, why I really do miss my brother. You see me? That's all it was. It wasn't nothing. They weren't about, no, I needed a song. I'm trying to get back to right there. What?

None of that. Like, I miss my brother. You see me. We don't been through enough. Like, it wasn't just straight music shit. Well, I'm like, man, how the hell if y'all didn't hit me up yet? Yeah, yeah. But we did end up speaking when we was on tour.

That's how it kind of happened because I was on tour with my wife. She was on tour of Don Tolover. I was playing around. I got into a, like, Rick on Don Tolover bike and, like, fractured every bone in my face and stuff like that. And then when Leo posted about it, like, basically letting it be known that I'm straight, probably like a day later he he reached out to me responding back to the DM that he told you all about mm-hmm mm-hmm so I had hit him before

you see me before he came up and told y'all and he still didn't even reach back like whatever he said he told y'all like oh yeah it's good woo-woo but even then I know bro like I really know him so I'm like shit however when I sent the message to him I'm like however he react I'm not tripping because I'm taking accountability for even letting this shit get this distant. You see me? Because I moved around without saying anything.

I moved around without saying like, oh, this going on or somebody saying this, somebody, I just moved around. And but even then, because I ain't got nothing against, bro. Loom to death. Like, I look at it. Like, when I moved around, I'm like, that's what I was supposed to do. I'm going to God, that's what I was supposed to do, bro. Because that's just what I was supposed to do.

What was the issue, though? Because it's not like you didn't have your own identity even being with the baby. Like, people knew who Stunner 4 was, and, you know, you was on your own trajectory. You didn't feel like that? Yeah, that's what it felt like, though. It might not have been that. That's what it felt like, though. And that ain't got nothing to do with him.

You feel me? We was, bro, it was just, that shit happened too quick that I can really say this. It's my career. like I can say it happened so quick that it would probably too much for everybody and not just me but at first I used to look at it like man that shit was too much for me bro like before that I was in a two-bedroom apartment

that was getting shot up my mom was at that like seven niggas in there my sister's in there still going to school every day whatever like I look at it like it was just too much for everybody from me brough interscope

everybody you feel me because I did my part like I ain't never end up how any of my peers ended up that we was doing the same thing on and off Instagram we was doing the same exact thing I ain't end up like nobody else I ain't never

get one of my close partners indicted you feel me killed nothing I didn't do I feel like I felt like only thing I did wrong would just fuck off money because I'm a genuine guy at heart already with anybody I come across like the bus driver the janitor the president everybody got like no big use no you whatever so I'm like it was just too much bro it was just too much for everybody like because it like I say it can

feel or it can even look like something to y'all but over here is something totally different Like, I was really surviving my whole time over there, not even just with a billion-dollar baby, like, with Interscope, being our help, I was surviving. I wasn't, you feel me? I wasn't the top of the line. Like, everybody thought it was, top of the line for sure. For me, I was, like, surviving. I was trying to get through the, I was trying to, I'm paying lawyer fees. I'm doing, like, everything that artists do around my age, like, thinking that, you know,

We grown already are like, oh, yeah, I'm a man. Like, I'm out here. You feel me? But like I say, I can say, yeah, it felt like that or it even looked like that. But now I'm 29 years old and I can look back on shit, wake up every day with my wife. Breakfast, lunch, dinner. Feel me, wake up with my son, go to the studio when I want to. Like, I see this shit for what it really is.

So I know when they nigg get on that bit, talking about, like, man, I got to take this risk for the family. Got to get away from that. That shit be capped. that shit be total cap because I know like even now I'm bigger than I was before

bro I just was like streaming music and it was dropping so much I was dropping it through a company or whatever versus like now that's what I'm getting back to doing but my music is better than this ever been I'm really like genuinely happy I really feel like I was talking

to young thug the other day he was like how's you for real bro how's you for real I said I'm better than I ever been. Like, I ain't just saying that to you either. I'm better than I ever been before I got some money, when I got some money. Like, everything, bro, I look at it like a lesson than not a loss. So I just say, it was just too much for everybody, but it was supposed to happen. It put me in position to be here today, feel in me? It put me in position to learn, like, about a lot of stuff that a lot of guys can't come in that bit with the biggest

rapper at the time. Like, I'm coming through here with the baby. So I'm going to meet Drake. I'm going to meet Gucci. I'm going to meet every rapper. I'm going to watch this rapper do lame shit that I used to look up to it. I'm going to watch. I'm going to see all of it. Feel me? And then when I finally get to that moment with myself, I'm like, man, why ain't takes this nigga back? Why don't I follow this nigga? What am I doing? Like, this ain't me. I get to break down all that shit that I've seen from everything. And then I just tell myself, like, it was supposed to happen like that. Versus before my wife came around too, I was definitely telling myself,

I ain't dead. I'm about to move to Houston. I'm about to move to Houston. I'm about to run up some pay for you, you feel me. I'm about to woo. I'm about to take a break from North Carolina before I go to jail or do something wrong. Feel me? I'm about to move to Houston.

I'm out of woo-woo. And then when I meet her, I didn't just start telling myself, like, I did my first on the radar. I did that first interview. I told them in an interview, I was like, I'm done rapping. And from there, from there, when I said that out loud, like, I'm done rapping. I ain't do no freestyle on the radar.

From there, that's when everybody come up with the narrative. Oh, baby did this. He dropped him. He didda-da-da. He's gonna fill out. But I really literally, like, was that on the radar? Like, just burnt. You can go look at the interview right now.

Like, look at my face and you can tell, like, bro, that nigg did not want to do this. I was sober in that interview, but I was just like, and this shit. Like, everything about it is not what I expected. it like feel me but just the industry in general yeah yeah at the time but like I say all that's supposed to happen bro like I supposed to watch the industry go through the ups and downs that it went through as an industry alone because I used to look at it like is it me going through the ups and I don't know I'm a good I'm a good dude like when I'm watching fuck niggas go straight ups every time so I'm like is it me but I'm also watching like as a year ago by another year

but I'm like it's really the industry because you can see I don't want to use no names but you know shit like the day me and Leo got married our our name was beside whoever y'all wanted to say it was but a week before that the narrative was that maybe I fell off or maybe whatever it was maybe I'm around my wife because of what she got going on whatever it was you feel me they had every narrative that they wanted to put out there until we just like I say put it on the internet like this is the there like people seeing me cry and shit like that i thought like in reality i'm not tripping about that shit well when my wife said me we're gonna do the ceremony because i'm like shit you're supposed to cry i cry for a nigger that die gang you think i'm not about to cry for

my wife damn right you feel me yeah yeah right yes you feel me like i feel me like i feel the same way about like they'd be like oh a nigga you tender and you i'll be like i'm right i'm i'm gonna be The first one to tell you, straight up, I am. Like, even if she, she wouldn't do that. But it don't matter. I'm tender, you feel me? Because of the same way you play with my homeboy, I know how I'm going to react. How you're doing, I'm a rat?

You play with my son, mama. Absolutely. Word up. Feel me? And also because of the trauma we've been through, we don't expect tears of joy. No, I feel. You're supposed to say tear the joy at your way. I was crying for like 10 minutes in the shower before I put my suit on.

My homeboys out there getting ready. I'm just in that bit trying to clean up, like, so I don't go out there looking. toe up yeah i'm like this shit really going on today that's why i'm telling myself in the shower yeah for sure that's like probably the biggest thing i ever did with the like biggest moment my life other than my son like no tour no show no big chick could amount to that day for sure mm-hmm congratulations proverbs 1822 man he who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the lord mm-hmm i really really admire y'all what you all got y'all thank you the palace, the empire of y'all building,

how you're raising y'all a little boy, how you're breaking generational curses, how it's going to get, it's going to get easier and easier with time with your dad if you just keep on. You know, like Mona said, it's hard for you and it's also hard for him, but I know it'll get right, you know. Yeah. With time.

Yeah, let's end this because she's giving you that look like she want to go make another one, man. Yeah. We can't look at each other. But no, who did the body comes out this Friday? This Friday. 2017. Yeah, this Friday.

And look at them. Look at them. Look at us. You see that people stamp? Yeah. I'm so proud of us. Look at us. Yeah.

People's stamp, man. And People magazine stamp. Yeah, I love it. Keep me in generational curse breakers, man. That's the best work that y'all can do. Not being afraid to come out here and tell y'all stories and just being this amazing example of black love man, salute to y'all. That's right. much absolutely thank you all yes thank y'all for having good it's stunted for

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