The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Muni Long Talks 'Revenge' Album, Marriage-Split, Motherhood, Music Writing, Tour With Chris Brown + More

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Muni Long To Discuss Her New  'Revenge' Album, Marriage-Split, Motherhood, Music Writing, And 11:11 Tour With Chris Brown. Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listene...r for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:36 We are The Breakfast Club. Jess is on maternity leave, so Lauren's filling in. And we got a special guest in the building. Her album, Revenge, is out right now, ladies and gentlemen. Money Long, welcome back. How you feeling? Man, I'm tired. I'm trying to keep up.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Tired? It's Fashion Week. I like those honest answers. No, it's a lot, you know? Trying to keep up, trying to entertain everybody, get sleep so I can sing. Do promo. Be a mom. Yeah, be a mom.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Wow. It's a lot. Yeah. Then this week you in Fashion Week because you've been out and about. Yeah, I did two shows the first day. And then I've just been doing another album promo. That's what I'm really here for. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:04:16 What's your regimen? Like, when do you sleep? Do you eat different when you're on runs like this? Yeah, like I get so hyper-focused sometimes I forget to eat. Oh, that's not good. Yeah, so I have runs like this? Yeah, like I get so hyper-focused sometimes I forget to eat. That's not good. Yeah, so I have to have people remind me like, Greeny D, so.
Starting point is 00:04:34 My routine is all over the place, and one thing I do make sure I do is wash my face every night and just kind of like. The makeup and decompress. Decompress, yep. Sometimes I have to, I don't know if this is a word but like de-stimulate like if i'm over simulated throughout the day um i come home i just don't want to talk nobody talks about that enough over stimulation because we're sitting around with these phones all day and between text messages and phone calls and social media you're constantly constantly constantly stimulated it's um it's more like in the physical world so like sometimes you go in
Starting point is 00:05:12 these spaces they're dusty you know my allergies a lot of these buildings but yo i don't understand are we all right no i'm good i'm good i can breathe clearly in here um i don't see how y'all don't have dusting i know like me and my friends I don't see how y'all don't have dust in y'all. Like me and my friends, we be in the same place. They don't have these problems, but I blow my nose up. You having like. Dust particle? Hell of dust.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yeah. Crazy. But it'd be cold. Sometimes I'd be hungry. I feel like a Sims character. You know, if y'all play Sims, like they'd be cold, tired, hungry, need to take a bath. And then I got to talk to people and like smile and i always take a photo if somebody asks me so sometimes i just be like money long like i'm tired i don't know what i'm talking about dusty men what about them just in general like do you ever run across
Starting point is 00:05:57 any of those they'd be scared to talk to me they should be if they dusty yeah no i make guys nervous really someone's told you that no i can see it i see their lips quivering when they talk They should be if they dusty. Yeah, no. I make guys nervous. Really? Someone's told you that? No, I can see it. I see their lips quivering when they talk to me. Their lips quivering? Mm-hmm. Guys been trying to holler at you?
Starting point is 00:06:13 No, just be in my presence. Like, they, you know, I don't go outside. So, like, when they see me in person, they be like, oh, shit, she's actually really pretty. You know what I'm saying? How do you feel when people say that to you, like, when they see you in person? Like, oh, my gosh, she's actually really pretty. You know what I'm saying? How do you feel when people say that to you, like when they see you in person? Like, oh my gosh, she's really pretty in person. Because I don't use filters and a lot of stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:06:31 But I think, like I have a really great makeup artist and glam team. Give God some credit, Money Long. Glow by God. Give God some credit now. Shout out to Jesus. There you go. But no, like I actually look like my pictures when i show up so i think
Starting point is 00:06:48 that's surprising for a lot of people i used to get offended i'm not gonna lie it's be like what you mean like you so pretty in person what was i ugly you know but no no i understand what they're saying is i actually look like my picture i posted this on tiktok like how does that make you feel when people say that because why i don't know why I was taking that picture. You set yourself up, you know, all the time. Yeah. You are dusty men. You might be some dust coming from that way over there.
Starting point is 00:07:12 I also didn't have a self-concept until, like, maybe six or seven years ago. What does that mean? I didn't understand how people perceived me. I didn't know that that was a thing. How do you think they perceive you? Like a regal, like I don't need any help. Like I have it all together. Is that because you got money?
Starting point is 00:07:40 That's why? No, it's always been like that. Even in high school. Wow. You know, people just kind of just look at me as like this unicorn. Probably because you had a level of confidence that they didn't have.
Starting point is 00:07:52 It wasn't confidence, it was obliviousness. I literally just used to be like, look at the little bird. Yeah. So you was just doing you, basically. Mm-hmm. Yeah. They have a concept of like dark skin, light skin, like, none of that.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Wow. Pretty ugly. That's a great space to be in. Yeah, no, I'm lucky in that regard where, like, I never had any confidence issues. Maybe, like, some weight fluctuation. Like, oh, I wish I was skinny. But then, like, last time I was here, I was, like, super skinny. Now I've been that, and now I'm just like, yeah, nah.
Starting point is 00:08:28 It's not comfortable. Like, everything hurts. You know what I'm saying? Like, sitting in a chair when you don't got no ass. Well, I don't know what you mean, because we dragging over here. I don't know. Yeah, you know, I got a little wagging these days. You know how it's acting.
Starting point is 00:08:39 You know her skinny girl. Why? Because it's a thing. Like, you know, I know what you're saying. Why you just decided to lie when Money Long came in? She don't got a wagon? I do got a wagon. She said she got a wagon.
Starting point is 00:08:48 I've never looked. I don't know. All right. Well, the album Revenge. Who are you getting revenge on, Money Long? Anybody. Whoever slept on me. Whoever tried me.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Whoever tried to stop forward motion. I think the best revenge is seeing me everywhere. I know I make you itch. Is that for anybody or is that for somebody in particular that you know people try to itch on you? Oh, yeah. A lot of people. You know, I've been around for a long time. I helped a lot of people
Starting point is 00:09:13 get from, you know, point A to point B. With that pen of yours? Yeah, just like showing up, helping come up with like... I mean, I don't just write songs. I come up with the I mean I don't just write songs I come up with like the theme and a treatment and you know a lot of times those ideas get taken and you don't get
Starting point is 00:09:30 compensated for that I think that just comes with being a creative like I'm an all around creative so I can't help but share my point of view and yeah like a lot of people did not think that I would get to this level um and the reason i know that is because they'd be like man you really did it like you did not give up like what
Starting point is 00:09:55 you saying it like that like you do you know something that i don't know um but also i know a lot of the people like what they said because the industry is very small and I just never I never I know what you said this is your way of doing that this is your way of doing that I mean I don't really care that much but like I'd rather see who you actually are rather than like alert you that I'm on to you because then you could change it. Why did this body of work make you use that title?
Starting point is 00:10:30 What about these 14 songs made you say, I'm going to name this Revenge? So that was the last song that we did on the album. One day, Saran Thomas from Rock City, who's written so many hits in the last, I don't know, five years. And then The Dream was there. He just came. They just came to say hello. And I looked around the room. I was like, we got Tricky, The Dream, me, Daron Thomas, and Kukaro, who does my vocal
Starting point is 00:10:59 producing. And I was like, there's no way I'm about to let y'all walk up out of here and not get a song. Like, this is crazy. So we was talking about relationships and you know Dream he liked to argue so he was talking about just like the male versus female dynamic and uh how women are like bitter sometimes when they don't get their way blah blah blah and sorry if I'm messing that up Dream I'm just paraphrasing um so I started talking about just like, I just don't want to spend, expend my energy that I could be putting into accomplishing my goals by
Starting point is 00:11:32 engaging in your, whatever it is like your drama, your, a lot of times people want you to do the emotional labor for them. Like, Oh, you made me feel like this. Okay. I apologize. It won't happen again again but I'm also not gonna sit here and um lie to you and tell you that I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:11:54 change anything to make you feel better that's your work you have to do that and so I don't want revenge I'm just gonna continue growing and developing as a human being glowing up and that is the best revenge or the best get-back you know petty stuff I know you um you talked on the cruise show a bit about this and you revealed there that you and your I guess it's a strange husband I don't know what the title would be you guys had separated and it was kind of similar. Like you said you just were tired of dealing with like drama and people not being happy and things of that nature.
Starting point is 00:12:30 How much of that went into this album? And like how much of it do we feel when we listen to these songs? I think like as a, this is the first time as an artist that I actually was writing things that were straight from my brain, like a diary. Yeah. Before it was like living vicariously or hearing a story from one of my friends. And it actually was very scary because I don't like people in my business. And I also understand that if you watch that whole interview,
Starting point is 00:13:06 I was very specific with what I said. I didn't say any of the words that were in the headlines. I did not say that. I went back and listened earlier because I wanted to hear your exact words. And I felt like, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I felt like you were just a bit exhausted by whatever that situation was.
Starting point is 00:13:26 I'm just exhausted, period, of like anybody or anything that is trying to pull you into negativity or pull your focus or bog you down. I just don't want to do it. Like you could wake up every day and choose to be happy. You know what I'm saying Every single day Is a new day
Starting point is 00:13:47 Yeah But you also left The door open too Because you said You know Things can change He can work on himself And maybe things
Starting point is 00:13:52 Could change in the future You still feel that way And have y'all Worked on it at all Who is y'all Okay Maybe not Has he worked on himself
Starting point is 00:14:01 Then I should say I don't know I have no idea You only The only way you know? I don't know. I have no idea. You only, the only way you know is results. Like, you know what I mean? Every day you just choose a better action than the day before. Like, you make adjustments.
Starting point is 00:14:18 That's why I say the best apology is change behavior. Exactly. Yeah, so, like, the only way I will know that you won't hurt me is if you don't. The only way I know that you are going to do what you say is if you do it. Actions versus words. And that's for anyone. Like I said, my own mama, my granny. The only person who won't get that kind of attitude from me would be my child. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:52 Because it's my responsibility to help him grow into a wonderful human, to operate at his highest level on this planet. Everybody else, that's on you. And eventually even him one day, I'm going to have to let him do his thing. It ain't going to be too far. How old is he? Two. Oh, yeah. He got a long way be too far. How old is he? Two. Oh, yeah. He got a long way to go.
Starting point is 00:15:06 He got about 14 years. Yeah, no, his birthday is... Our birthday is on the same day, actually. So next week. Virgo. When they get about 16, that's when they start to become their own little persons. He already is now.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Yeah. He be like, no. I'm like, okay, whatever you say. You know, you end the album With a song called Ruin Me Do you feel like a person Can really ruin you? It depends on like
Starting point is 00:15:32 Your interpretation of the record I think that When I say it I'm saying That most guys And like I'm not an expert I'm not saying
Starting point is 00:15:41 All men But it's always a man They want a dummy They want a dummy I'm not an expert. I'm not saying all men, but it's always a man. They want a dummy. They want a dummy. They want someone who will not question them, will not. I think that's what they mean by submissive. You want to be able to continue moving through life undeveloped,
Starting point is 00:16:05 unmotivated, un-whatever. You don't want someone to challenge you and push you. And so a lot of times guys won't change. They'll just go find someone who will accept their negative or poor choices. I think we got to put a sum in front of men and guys. Some men, some guys. Well,
Starting point is 00:16:22 no, I said it's not all men, but it's always a man you know um i just think that again when i say you ruin me i'm wise now i do not believe you when you say oh i love you so much but your actions are doing something else so you ruin me for everybody else because now i'm watching. You know what I'm saying? It's no more like blind, falling in love, loving your dirty draws. Like, mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:16:50 I love myself. And you can support that. And I will allow myself to be in your space. And you can experience me loving myself. Like you got to meet me where I'm at. Yeah. And we move together. It's my job to love me.
Starting point is 00:17:06 It ain't my job to give that to you. And by me loving me, it will pour over onto you and you will feel loved. That's a fact. You know what I'm saying? That's what I mean. It's not about to be, no, I'm dropping everything every time. I'm cooking, I'm cleaning. Does that make it tough?
Starting point is 00:17:23 I mean, I was going to say, does that make it tough for you when you think about trying to move forward and possibly dating but this is all new like are you even in that space yet where you're even exploring other men I'm tired everybody you got a real fuck these niggas energy yeah well you said you've always said you didn't like dating before your husband so if-mm. So if you— I don't really like people. Don't go outside. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Right. So the dating thing happened. No. No, I will say that I'm just really—I'm understanding, like, the game. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's different games being played. So, like, there's the relationship game, the marriage game, the career game, the frequency game. And I'm just focused on, like, getting my foundation right and getting everything together so that any game I decide to go play, I'm straight. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:18:21 For you. I think that as women, sometimes we get distracted by relationships, and we start putting everything into it. So I'm not saying no. Money long is fed to fuck off. Yeah, I feel it. No, but my life is great, even with the things that are challenging. It's nothing to, like, be mad or, like, bitter,
Starting point is 00:18:44 but you just figure it out. It's just a puzzle to solve. And so anybody who's coming in, making me feel unsure about anything or disturbing my peace, you gotta go. You gotta go down to a mosquito or a fly. Like I just don't have time. How do you know?
Starting point is 00:19:04 What you finna say? Mosquitoes and the flies? Anything. Anything. No, I was just going to say, you know, how do you know that you're not becoming what you hate? Meaning like. I don't hate anything.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I'm saying if you're upset about something or a relationship or hurt about something that happened in a relationship, how do you know you're not projecting that onto other people? I think I've reached a level of self-awareness where I'm always asking questions and I'm still in a very much in like a discovery exploration childlike, like maybe there's something here that I don't understand. What is this? Right.
Starting point is 00:19:42 But, you know, and I'm always inquiring for like even when i get pissed like it happened last night somebody did something like but you know it's like i'll be like are you okay you need something you thirsty who you here with like i'll be trying to figure out because you got to be out your mind you're not talking to me what did they do to get you that to piss you off but i'll say girl like walk passing was like She wasn't looking at anyone And she just was like Oh have a good night Meanwhile I'm trying to get a table
Starting point is 00:20:11 We went to Last Lap Okay Some restaurant You know they got like Three tables in there I'm trying to eat I'm hungry I'm cold
Starting point is 00:20:20 I'm tired She told you have a good night She said it Out in the And that pissed you off? Ether no Oh I'm cold I'm tired uh she told you have a good night she said she said it out in the and that pissed you off ether no
Starting point is 00:20:28 oh but when she kept walking past she and you know I could feel energy she said I guess not
Starting point is 00:20:37 oh but it was like directed at me now cause you ain't said nothing back to her but I'm on my phone I'm trying to I'm like maybe
Starting point is 00:20:42 I could get a burger like y'all take it too long I'm hungry um and I turned around and I'm on my phone. I'm trying to, I'm like, maybe I could get a burger. Like, y'all take it too long. I'm hungry. And I turned around and I looked at my friend and he started laughing. He was like, friend, don't do it. I was like, she can't be talking to me. I know she's not talking to me.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I don't like that kind of stuff because to me that says that you think you could beat me up. Oh my goodness. That was very regal, very Tamora. You think you could beat me up? Yo, I'm feeling the same way. Don't talk like that. Nah, very Tamora. That was very regal. You think you could beat me up. Yo, I'm feeling the same way. Don't talk like that.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Nah, you bullying me. I don't like that. You beat me up, huh? I don't like you. So what did you say in response? No, she was walking out. I said, she can't be talking to me. I know she not.
Starting point is 00:21:17 And they just kept walking. Like, I think they was like, ooh, yeah, don't do that. Because I'm very nice. I'm quiet. Like, you know, people have like a perception of me. I will beat you up. Like, don't do that. I I'm very nice. I'm quiet. Like, you know, people have like a perception of me. I will beat you up. Like, don't do that. I said that about somebody last week.
Starting point is 00:21:29 I was like, this person got to show me. What do you mean? The way this person talking, they got to show me. They got to show me they can beat me up. Yeah, you must confide the way you talking. That's crazy. I'm like, they got to show me they can beat me up. But if the lady said, have a good night, and she thought you heard, and you said nothing,
Starting point is 00:21:41 she probably was like, she probably felt offended. She might have been a fan. She wasn't looking at, that's like me being like good morning who am i talking to do you know no exactly it wasn't that many people so it was like it was a section she probably talking to you no there was other people she's walking past and she said have a good night to the air like i mean I mean, I see what you're saying, but. She's probably not from here. Because that can be a culture shock when you're not from New York.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Because, you know, I'm from the South, so I greet people. And I say things like, peace, see you later. And nobody will respond back. But that's just a New York thing. Like, New Yorkers are just rude. No, I would have said something if I thought she was talking to me. That's the other thing. I'm so nice.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Like, I always take the photo. I always speak. I always, you know, always. That's the other thing. I'm so nice, like I always take the photo. I always speak. I always, you know, always. Cause I understand. Yeah, exactly. You talking to me. You ain't even saying nothing. I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Cause what did you look at? What you talking to me? That's crazy. When's the last time you got into a fight? Cause you said you could still fight. When's the last time you fought? I don't fight no more. I'm too rich for that now.
Starting point is 00:22:40 You know what I'm saying? But I never lost one. Actually, you know, my first fight I lost, but I beat bitches up. I do. Because I feel, it's like, you don't want to fight,
Starting point is 00:22:53 you don't want to fight someone who is afraid. You know what I'm saying? Because you don't know what they're going to do. I'm always scared to get hit, so I'm going to make sure
Starting point is 00:23:01 you can't hit me. Never lost. But don't be not fighting anyone. don't be taking that as a challenge because you're gonna go to jail i'm gonna call those people you have a you have a song called 30s um how much have you learned from your 30s um still yeah yeah i i have learned over the last 10 years, because I started my self-reflection and internal journey at 26. So over the last 10, I have learned that everybody's on their own individual course
Starting point is 00:23:41 and that you cannot interfere with free will. So no matter how much i might want something for you um who am i to take that from you that lesson or that um that opportunity to grow and learn because you don't have to learn through you could choose to learn through joy you don't have to learn through drama and trauma. Right. But most of the time, people are not motivated to change anything until stuff gets very uncomfortable. And so I've learned to just, like, relax and be like, yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:24:17 We got all ten fingers and toes. We breathing. That's right. You know what I'm saying? Grateful. Gratitude. Yeah, gratitude, but also just like a deep understanding. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions,
Starting point is 00:24:33 but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.
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Starting point is 00:29:52 Lack of, like, I'm not afraid of anything anymore, you know? Yeah. Not afraid to lose people. I understand, like, it's probably going to hurt, yeah. But I'm over it. On 30s, it sounds like you're singing about the fear of being alone. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:03 So that's a fear, right? No. um no that's the suspicion not for me it's like i don't want that okay i don't want to be alone um like with no companionship that doesn't necessarily mean a relationship that could just mean like you know if i feel like i look cute sometimes i might want to talk to somebody and be like tell me i'm pretty like i'm saying yeah what made you so cold though because hold on hold on do you feel like you got married too young no okay i got married at 25 some people would say that was young that that was pretty young but no i don't feel like that got you do you think because you spent do you ever look back because you spent from 25 to now 35 married and you guys are figuring out whatever is going to happen next or not that you spent so much of your
Starting point is 00:30:50 time being married that it's like figuring out this new world by yourself is like it's just like a space it's going to be so new that it's like something that maybe you are not ready to jump into or you don't know how to jump into it like you don't know how to navigate it um because it's like a new like you've never been like you've always been in a marriage you know yeah it's really hard to talk about cuz I don't really know like what like y'all are separated she didn't say the D word divorce didn't come out your mom you know one thing I'll say about this and I know a lot of people are gonna want to ask me they're gonna want to know but i know that my words are very powerful and i have what i say so i just want to be careful about what i say because i don't want to draw things to me i love
Starting point is 00:31:32 that for you you know i'm saying um when i say somebody's name they appear so i don't want to you know i mean i got you juice i was asking what turned you so cold because it seems like now you're like I don't care If somebody's in my life I'm going to turn them What made you cold Because something Had to happen
Starting point is 00:31:50 I'm not cold I'm just I'm focused on me That's it I think I have de-centered men I have de-centered relationships And what
Starting point is 00:31:58 The world teaches you Your role is As a woman I'm just here To have Fun To experience the best that life has to offer and i will share it with who i want to not because i feel like i need to be with nah you know what i'm saying also too like what guy can handle this you know was that a part of it because he was your husband you guys
Starting point is 00:32:29 have done so much together industry-wise in this like yeah i mean yeah it seems like it every time looks yeah but also too how you used to talk about him like i know you talked about like y'all working on the label together and like he helped produce some of your songs correct right so it just it seemed like sometimes as a wife you just want to say things to help encourage things to go in a certain direction i understand affirm and uh what's the word motivate gently prod but that doesn't always mean that it's connecting wow I'm reading in between the lines here so have any of these recent interviews prodded him
Starting point is 00:33:13 to go start maybe doing the work on himself that he needs to do see I haven't spoke and why you think a man can't handle you the same way you talking about you know you don't want to talk about no i didn't take me i said this all of the stuff that comes with being money long plenty of guys there's guys you you unless you don't want an industry guy because there's guys that know exactly what you're dealing with as a woman i understand
Starting point is 00:33:37 why industry men behave the way they behave i would never date one wow so easy you have whatever you want get whatever you want sleep with whoever you want you're not about to play in my face what do you think changed because i mean it's been you said since 24. you think the fact that you made it it's almost like i love you when you're trying to make it but now when you make it things change roles change i don't know i'm not i'm only in my head i only know know what I'm thinking. I'm not trying to be cryptic. This is just really how I think. I have no idea. I'm not trying to figure it out. Are you picking up that pen while you're going through all of this? I'm always writing. Okay. Because some fire music can come from this. My God, I'm sorry that you're
Starting point is 00:34:21 going through whatever you're going through, but Lord have mercy. I know you're making some fire records. I haven't been in the studio, but I probably, again, I get what I say. So I want to make sure I'm saying things that I want to appear versus, you know, I'm so mad. I wake up every day so happy. Like, I've surrounded myself with the most wonderful, warm, funny, like, me and my friend group are hilarious. That's needed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:50 So, like, it's just so fun. Like, you know, we have our own little inside jokes. I laugh through the pain. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'll pick up something, like a pickle, and I'll be like, everything reminds me of you. You know, just, like, so funny everything reminds me of you. You know, just like so funny.
Starting point is 00:35:06 What kind of pickle? I don't know what you're talking about. It depends. Sometimes it's a big pickle. Sometimes it's a little one. I don't want every pickle to remind me of you now. What size is the pickle? Hey yo.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Nope. Hey yo, what size is the pickle? Pickle, right? Story of my life. When you talk about your words and your pen being powerful, do you ever feel like some of your songs Yo, what size is the pickle? Story of my life. When you talk about your words and your pen being powerful, do you ever feel like some of your songs might be too open and too honest? Like you might be putting too much out there?
Starting point is 00:35:34 No. Okay. You know, it's this weird thing that I have this effect on people where even in real life, I'm only telling you what I want you to know. There's so much. But a lot of times people really think they know me like they feel like oh that's my that's my home girl that's my friend i'll be like i'll talk to this one time like what that's crazy you don't know me like that um like if i actually like you i'll talk to you i'll open up but if I don't know you or if I don't feel safe around you um I know how to make people feel welcome and warm and cared about and I think sometimes people mistake that like actual care and concern speak to how important feeling safe around people is I love when people use that
Starting point is 00:36:22 term because that's truly what it is. If you can feel safe around people, you can be yourself. Yeah. I always encourage people to be the you that you are when you're with your family, when you're with your best friends, or when you're by yourself. Everybody has star quality, every person, but it's when you feel safe that that comes out and I think um a lot of us spend time in spaces that we don't feel safe in that we're uncomfortable in that we don't want to be in that we feel exposed we're not uh confident enough to be vulnerable um I think that's part of what
Starting point is 00:37:01 makes a great artist and a great performer, great entertainer, actor. They're not afraid to be naked in front of people. And they're not afraid to bare their soul in front of the world. That is a very hard thing to do. They had me singing in the street busking yesterday on the subway. Oh, my God. It was so cringy. I was on the subway singing. That's why you don't have dust in your nose. Why was you on the subway. Oh my God, it was so cringy. You was on the subway? I was on the subway singing.
Starting point is 00:37:25 That's why you don't have dust in your nose. Why was you on the subway? No, it was very dusty down there. Just, you know, getting content. You know, content is king these days. So I got on the train and I was asking people like, how did you know your person was made for you? Giving answers.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Like, what make you feel like a baddie? Just like questions from my album., like, questions from my album. Yeah, the songs on my album. Yeah, so then they had me singing. Like, I started singing to this older couple. They've been together for, like, 47 years. But it was so cringy, girl. Oh, it wasn't on?
Starting point is 00:37:59 Huh? It wasn't on? I mean, New York subways are a lot. No, but for me, it was, was like the anxiety I felt in my body. I thought somebody was going to hit me in the head and be like, shut the fuck up. You didn't have no security? No, not yesterday. Oh, wait, he was there. Yeah, he was there.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Yeah. But still, this is New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'd be like, shut up. Yeah, shut the fuck up. That's what I thought was going to happen, but it didn't. But that's because you really control your spaces normally in a subway. It's like people from everywhere. No, but once I started singing, people was like, is that really her? That sound like, yeah, I was cringing, though, the whole time.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Wow. Superpowers. Mm-hmm. What are your superpowers? My superpower is detachment. Like, it really is. Now, in reference to the song, what I'm talking about is, like, I get what I say.
Starting point is 00:38:49 In every aspect of my life, I'm super successful. Why not here in this, you know? In this what, relationship? Yeah. Yeah. Why can this not? And that doesn't just mean romantically. It could be family, you know.
Starting point is 00:39:07 But why doesn't my power work in this area? I really want this. Wow. So I think so many people in relationships can relate to that. Mm-hmm. A lot of people. Because you date potential sometimes, and you see the potential before the other person does. And you're like, come on.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Yeah, I can't relate to that. I don't know what that means if i like you i like you all that other stuff don't matter well i mean i think it would be the same reason why you said that you were speaking things because you wanted him to kind of like do it or like catch on or whatever you were just saying earlier that's kind of what i'm talking about that's an interesting perspective i never thought about it people talk about about potential, but if I like you, I like you. I'm not waiting for you to grow to be somebody else. I like you. I like who you are. I like you, the person.
Starting point is 00:39:52 I'm not motivated by what you do, because that could change. You could quit your job and decide you want to be a chef. Not even like a job, though, but it could be like how they talk to you or how they... I don't know. How do you have potential with somebody? You like somebody, but they just not the person for you.
Starting point is 00:40:10 No, not even that, but you can like somebody and then get to know them and you're like, you know what, I love that you do this, but I don't necessarily like that you respond this way about certain stuff. And then you guys have to figure that out and that changes people grow. That's normally how it goes though.
Starting point is 00:40:24 That's literally what you said earlier. The potential out and that changes people's growth. That's normally how it goes though. That's literally what you said earlier. The potential is usually attached to what you do. Yeah, no, how do you have potential in communication? There's no potential there. She's single, so she needs some help. First of all, don't be putting my business out there like that. Yeah, no, girl.
Starting point is 00:40:36 I know potential. You don't like how somebody talk. Get a new one. That's why I'm single. Like I said, toy. Yeah, no, that's not. I mean, I know for me, myself, because I started young with the person that I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Once I grew to a certain point, there were certain things that I was just like, I don't know if I like that. Stockholm syndrome. Oh, wow. Okay. Is it that?
Starting point is 00:40:57 Would that be that? Okay. Back to you. Okay. No, no. I love when people read Lauren. Tell them about herself.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Back to you. I never thought about it at Stockholm Syndrome. You're just comfortable there. I mean, yeah. Comfortability was a lot of it. You grow to love your captor. Captor is crazy. Damn.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Man. You know, this is probably the most difficult thing about me being in a long-term relationship is that I see. Yeah. I could see you know what i'm saying you can't like you know there's a difference between marriage and boyfriend and girlfriend yeah well you can't just walk away when you got so outside of that being a difference like when you guys went from boyfriend a girlfriend to marriage what was like one of the biggest differences for y'all i don't know i don't have an answer for that
Starting point is 00:41:45 because once I like you, that's it. I'm jumping in until you be like, I'm cool. And then I detach. You ask me my superpower. Poof, you never existed. I don't believe that. You don't? No.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I don't believe that at all. Not with your husband. When you writing stuff like every night I've been crying, I can't fall asleep, laying in the bed in my diamonds, I still wear my ring. Why you still wearing the ring? Huh? Why you still wearing the ring?
Starting point is 00:42:12 Not today, but in this song. She said that's a song. Okay. But you said we were reading your diary, so we take you at your word. No? That had nothing to do with y'all? All right.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Some things. Remember words are powerful you're telling us you don't love that man no more um you're telling us you don't want to be with that man no more when you say love uh-oh what do you mean love romantic love no or don't look at me girl i don't know i can't help you with this parenting. Parenting love. All of the above. To death to us part love. Want to still be with you and have a family. Let's figure life out.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Do better or worse love. Hmm. I don't know. But you could fall out of love. I don't know. I'm detached from it. No, you're not. You're acting so tough. Maybe you are. I don't know. I'm detached from it. No, you're not. You're acting so tough.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Maybe you are. I don't know. I'm not. Didn't we talk about this last time? No. We didn't? We didn't talk about me being on the spectrum? Yes, we did.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Yes. Yeah. Got you. So, no, when I say I detach, I really do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Got you. So, no, when I say I detach, I really do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Seriously. Yeah. Poof.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Gone. You are not out of sight, out of mind. Jesus. There's no gray area with you. No. Is there a reattachment that happens? I mean, I don't know how that works when you on the spectrum. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:43 I think with anyone, there's a safety and trust issue. Once that's violated, it's... I read somewhere it takes two years to regain trust once it's broken. So just consistent behavior. True. Which we talked about in the beginning. Depending on the person, it could take way longer than that, depending on how you is.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Depending on what it is but if i if i um if i consistently come over to your house and every time i come your dog bites me put the dog up or i'm gonna assume that you are okay with that and you don't feel the need to keep me safe so i'm not gonna come back over here he was putting the dog on you that was an analogy that is a headline by the way you know what I'm gonna just stay off the internet once this comes up on the fun side of things you do have Glowrilla on the album but she's the only feature why is she the only feature? First of all, I feel like I don't really make songs that require that.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Yeah. And, like, I really want to stress the fact that, like, this project was A&R'd. It wasn't, like, just in the studio freestyling, making records. Like, I wanted to have certain tones. Like, what don't I have here? Does this song need drums? Does it not? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:08 So we really thought about who could be on my records. And it's not, I don't believe in that, just throwing an artist on a song just because they got 50 million monthly listeners. You know what I'm saying? It doesn't make sense. I actually really like Glo. She's funny, super talented, and she's singing on there.
Starting point is 00:45:27 So when I first heard it, I was like, oh, sing, Rilla. I love this for me. Yeah, I don't make songs that, if anything, it would be like a duet, male, female. Right. But who would that be? There's not very many active R&B men. Who is there? I already have a song with Usher.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Working on getting one with Chris, maybe. I just came off tour with him. How was that? Fun. Yeah. Super fun. What did you learn on the 11.11 tour? I learned how to push my energy all the way to the top and to connect with everybody um
Starting point is 00:46:08 it was my first tour so like looking back at the footage even now I'm just like while I can see like the the greenness um but when I was in it it's just just like, It was just new. I got to get up here. I got to do it. There was only one night where it wasn't that great, and that's just because the first night in Atlanta, they was like, girl, who is you? We came here to see Christopher. We do that, won't you?
Starting point is 00:46:38 Really? Yeah. You do hours and hours and all the songs and all the things? I mean, they always, in the last 15 minutes of my set, the arena light up everybody's singing that's never gonna get old um but like all the songs in the middle that maybe some people know and some people don't that's where the work is is like for me connecting with them and showing them who i am, talking to them, showing my personality, things like that.
Starting point is 00:47:06 So it was fun, I learned a lot. Well what song you wanna hear off the album? Let's get into it June, off the album. One song off the album, we could play Bessie. Bessie? Yeah, Bessie. Okay, down Bessie. This is a song about, first of all,
Starting point is 00:47:22 this is the first song that I took ever that I did not write. I tweaked a few things to make it fit me, but up-tempos is not really my thing. I do ballads and introspective type stuff. So when Teron played it for me, I was like, that, whatever that is, I need that, please. And then I just changed it because there's a lot of bestie songs. I just changed the spelling because that's how we actually say it on a song
Starting point is 00:47:48 that's my bestie and yeah it's fun you know I wanted to ask you you made me think about it when you were talking about performing on stage what do you enjoy more because you've made money doing both being an artist or a writer I enjoy being able to say
Starting point is 00:48:03 what I want to say when I want to say it. And I also really did not have fun as a songwriter just because of the way that songwriters get treated. So I prefer to have my own autonomy. Ladies and gentlemen,
Starting point is 00:48:20 Money Long. We appreciate you for joining us. Thank you so much for having me. I'm looking forward to the next project. Don't get me wrong. Venge is dope. Dusty. Uh-uh. What?
Starting point is 00:48:31 I just am. Because I came up on the Mary J. Blige, what's the 411, my life era. Can't act like that heartbreak music wasn't fantastic. Not saying you're going through heartbreak. I don't know. Whatever you're going through. Yeah, I'm saying you're going through a lot of different emotions.
Starting point is 00:48:45 I can't wait to hear that expressed through music. But I'm not, though. Why do you think that? I'm not going through a bunch of emotions. It feels like it a bit. But we, I mean, you know yourself better than we do, but. Yeah, I can't tell you what you're doing. I just can't imagine being in that space, you know, everything,
Starting point is 00:49:00 and now it's out there in the public, and you got to do press, and you got to, you know, relive and retalk and all that stuff. So, you know, if anything is a little bit of like frustration or why y'all keep bringing this up? Why you keep reminding me? Because I forgot. Because you had two interviews in the music. That's all. It's not just here. Like even in life. Yeah. People be like, I'm so sorry. I'm like, for what? Because of the interviews and the music. That's really what it is. You write a song called Ruin Me and you tell us that you're going to sleep with your ring on every night.
Starting point is 00:49:30 It's like, oh. Oh. Oh. What was that? Honey Violin. Money Long, thank you for joining us. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up.
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