The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: N3on Talks Kai Cenat, Internet Beef; DDG's Brother DuB, Streaming Career, Adin Ross, Personal Growth

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, N3on Talks Kai Cenat, Internet Beef; DDG's Brother DuB, Streaming Career, Adin Ross, Personal Growth. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We are The Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRosa is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. Content creator streamer, Neon, ladies and gentlemen. Hello. Hello. How you guys doing? How are you young man?

Doing great. I mean, you know, I've never done anything productive this early in the mornings this is this is new to me oh you don't get up this early no never my streams usually at like 2 p.m. there's a lot of people holy it's like mm-hmm interesting 20 20 years old we got up early now before we go any further with this conversation somebody bought this to my attention a little while ago like about a couple hours ago mm-hmm what's the beef with you and my guy Kyson that cuz you know I'm team Kai I'm team Kai. I'm part of the mafia. You're part of the mafia. Yes. You're a sub on Twitch? I don't even know what that is. He don't even know what that means.

Oh! Kai Sinai! If he ain't from that Twitch he will be. I don't know what Kai would do. That's what we'll be. Kai just said he's part of the mafia. So a few years ago, me and Kai had a little back and forth. This is like when I was like very secluded in my house and I was just very like you know I just like talk shit to everyone. So me and him had like a really big back and forth but you know. Over what though? Over just like just me like just being like me at the time like just saying dumb shit. Trolling.

Talking, trolling exactly and you know obviously that didn't really get me anywhere so um it was just a thing it wasn't just him it was everyone like there's a lot of people I just like I just went out and I just said crazy shit because that's what I thought was funny at the time and I was just a thing. It wasn't just him. It was everyone like there's a lot of people I just like I just went out and I just said crazy shit cuz that's what I thought was funny at the time And I was just like an immature little kid. I didn't really understand anything I work for you at the time people watching. Yeah, I feel like that always like being toxic and like having the shock factor Always works, but like I know Is that what you're on?

Okay, I'm gonna head to say that sound like crazy. I've never been punching the head House Oh back then yeah You know what's crazy? I've never been punched in the head. You walk around with security. That's because your ass be in the house. That's why. That's because you was in the house. Oh, back then, yeah. Your videos in New York, you have a security duck. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. Because, you know, I'd rather just be safe than sorry. This world's a very fucked up world. You know they can see the guy behind you, right?

Oh, that's great. Exactly. That's great. I can't curse on here, right? Yes. Yeah, you can. Oh, I can't. Man, what the? Okay. Yeah, you can. Oh, I can't. Man, what the? Okay, I'll bet.

Okay. So what happened with your un-cow? So specifically, what happened with your un-cow? What was it? So he said something little, and I think at the time it pissed me off, and then- What did he say? I don't really remember the exact details.

This was years ago. I got short-term memory loss. But, and then I said something back. What'd you say? I'm not gonna repeat it, you know. I don't wanna repeat it because it was messed up and I would never say anything like that again. We know what he said.

He said it about his mom. What? Go ahead, say what he said, y'all. He said that you would fuck his mom and that she's a fat Harriet Tubman bitch. Jesus Christ. And not only did you disrespect Kai's mother, you disrespected Harriet Tubman?

Yeah, yeah, because you know, like I said at the time, it wasn't really a thing where I just did whatever, what came to mind, I was just the shock factor. I wasn't thinking. Obviously now that I'm in the real world now, I'm going out and experiencing stuff, that's not something okay to say at all. How old were you at the time?

I don't know, this was, does anyone have that? How old was I? You're 20 now. I'll be 20 now, so. This is, yeah, this was- Before COVID, during COVID? I think- It was after COVID. I during kovat. I think it was after kovat. I think after yeah Mm-hmm. I think after it wasn't really like that long long long

Well, I feel like I feel like I speed around life this past like two years I think I've lived like five to ten years like I've ran through so much because before then when I was at home I was just so like I was so secluded and I just didn't know much about anything at all It's just like go to school. How did you know about Harriet Tubman? Well, I mean I got the I got the internet. I got the internet. Okay Well, did you feel that comfortable? Cuz I never experienced a real-life situation. I've never gone and said like until that time I never said anything anything in anyone's face like I barely even went to school So it was just a thing where I was just like in my basement in a secluded area

With the desktop set up there, just thinking I could say whatever without understanding the meaning of any of it. So you think that you can F somebody's mom and then using like Harriet Tubman as a slur? Well, it's not the right thing to do, obviously. So you were the person online that a lot of people on social media hate, right? Cause you just troll people all day

and they wish to catch you in person. Yeah. So when did that change for you? You know, I feel like in my streaming career, I've had a lot of moments where it's just like, mind, like I changed my mind. Especially when I went to jail in Dubai for something streaming. Like it was a real life situation.

I was like, damn, like these stuff have consequences. Like the stuff I do. So what did you go to jail for for people that don't know? In Dubai. In Dubai, yeah. You know, people thought I had like heated sheets and shit. It was not like that at all. It was really like, it was cool. It was a good experience. And I wouldn't like heated sheets and shit It was it was not like that at all. It was really like it was cool

It was a good experience and I wouldn't like change that for anything, but it was It wasn't even bad like it wasn't that bad I was just streaming in an area where like I wasn't really allowed to stream But they gave me but they gave me permission So someone gave me permission they weren't supposed to and then it was a whole thing at the airport I got arrested they put me to transport vehicle. Yo, it's got set up basically Shit, man, I told you that you could and you couldn't yeah how long you in jail for two and a half days two and a half days I got you right so

let's let's go have you publicly apologized to Kai yeah like probably like four times and I also DM'd him too have you publicly apologized to Kai's mother yes have you publicly apologized to Harriet Tubman in our family. No, but I probably should. Yeah. That's my aunt. Oh, wow. You don't give a fuck. No, no, no, no, no. I just, I don't know what to say to that. But I just wanna say, man,

Sorry for disrespecting your aunt and me. I'm so sorry for that. Have you spoke to Kai's sister? Kai's sister? Kai's since then. Kai's since then. No, no, no, I haven't. And if I did see him face to face, it would be the same thing. It would be a girl man apology. Kai's since then. No, no, no. I haven't. And if I did see him face to face, it would be the same thing.

It would be a girl, man, apology. It's crazy because I've met all these people who I've talked shit about and all this stuff, and then when I see them in person, it's just like I apologize. It's not like a thing where I try to act hard and be like, I'm standing on it doubling down. It's a thing where I apologize and I man up. People make fun of me in my chat too, and they're like, you're on an apology tour and whatever, but I want to make my wrongs right. Accountability is important.

Absolutely. Is that why Kai's man Ray wanted to fuck you up? Well, I don't think he wants to box me. And- I saw, what was it? Was that Screamer University when y'all ran into each other? No, I didn't get invited to Screamer University.

Screamer Prom? Screamer Prom. Prom, yeah. Yeah, I was at the prom. First ever prom actually. And Ray was like, nah, you gotta apologize to Kai. Yeah, and then in that clip I did exactly what I apologized. Because I wanted to, not because he pressed me

and I'm like, no, I'm getting bitched, whatever. It's because I genuinely wanted to and I did it again, like I did before. But he said he wanted to box me for a million dollars. Yeah, I saw that on Impulsive with Leland and Paul. Can you box? Can I box? Of course, look at me.

Oh yeah, we did. I'm looking, that's why I me. Oh yeah, we did. I'm looking. That's why I asked. Can you? Okay. So is that going to go down? We're going to see that fight?

Well, you know, I actually could get an offer for more than that. I just like the thing about boxing is you have to be like locked in for months. So like I like my craft is streaming. I love this. Like I wouldn't give it up for the world. So like you have to like give it up for some time and lock in like early mornings, like training camps. So it's like on the screen.

It's boring after a while. It's like, you know, who wants to see like an Indian guy just punch the fucking thing all day? Like it gets a little boring. Oh, you're Indian? Indian. Indian? Pakistani and Indian.

Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. I'm mixed breed. So look, did your, what did your parents have to say about that whole exchange? Like were they supporting you and rooting for you when you came out the gate trolling? Oh no, no, no, no, for sure not. Cause it started to affect their personal life,

like their personal life too. Like even my sister, like her friends, like they're like, your brother's a weirdo, like he's saying all, like it was bad because like, you know, the bad thing about me is like everything's on the internet from such a young age. So it was like everything that I've done, everyone's seeing it, like my parents are really religious

at the mosque, the people are talking about it. And even at that time, I didn't realize, like I just kept going because I didn't realize what I was doing. And it like, I don't know what clicked in my head, but it clicked. And then like, I just like fully just like changed everything. But my mom was like, yeah, at first she was like, no,

like I don't want you streaming under my roof. Like this can't happen. And I just kept doing it because I was an idiot. They kicked you out? No, they didn't. No, my parents, they loved me so much. They would never kick me out, but they were just like, no one thought I could do this as a job

and just the things I was doing was just so vulgar and just too far to where, it was just, it was not respectable in our community. How did you feel like our life felt? Not good, not good. That's why I try to be a lot more religious now. I try to even tell the chat and all the people about religion, go towards God, seek God and stuff.

And then, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bad point in my life. Not my life. I think he should apologize. This is the Breakfast Club. I think he should have used this big platform to apologize to Kai once again and his mom. And just, you know.

Of course. I don't know if that'll put it to rest, but. Yeah, I think it already is put to rest. And I think he understands. And I've already apologized five different times. it to rest, but. Yeah, I think it already is put to rest. And I think, you know, he understands. And like, I've already apologized like five different times. So like, it's, and you know, I repeatedly say it because I genuinely mean it. And like I said, if he was, like, if you were him right now,

I would just, I would say the same thing. Yeah. Say it, okay. Well, you're not him. I know, but it's the same as right there. I want, when I apologize, I want to actually like, like man to man. See him in person.

You can only say it so many times through a camera for it to be like, it's just not like real. You want him to feel it. You want it to be genuine, a one-on-one thing. Have you invited him to ever meet up with you so that can happen? It's just a thing where if he runs into him, it's just gonna like, yeah.

Cause I did say, the thing is I did say like really crazy things and like a lot of people, like it's not just him. Like there's so many people I've said a lot of stuff. You know, a lot of people learn to forgive me. Like there was a situation I had with you guys know dub and Dub DDG's brother. Yeah, and then so like I I know DDG But there's something I said too and then you know when I and he was really mad at me

He was gonna he wanted to press me He wanted to literally punch me, but when I saw him face to face apologized and it was dead now We heard an audio of you this morning I don't know if it was truth or not, because my son says sometimes you lie just to create things. The audio was talking about, I guess one of the worst group of people. His least favorite race.

His least favorite race. So I wanted to ask you, what is your least favorite race? I don't have one. Be honest. I don't have one. Okay, so why was that a question that you decided to ask somebody? You talked about somebody had an assistant or something.

What was it, assistant that worked for his dad? Yeah. And then she was lazy. He said his dad fired one of his black employees because she was lazy. And then she came back after she was fired and had her boyfriend rob the store. I remember that.

I remember that. Is that a true story? Yeah, I swear it is. So my dad's deep into like the the phone business. He was back then and then he got we got robbed so many times and then we just you know he just fully stopped the business but yeah that was that was the actual real situation. You were only robbed by black people? Um no. Okay. So you don't have a least favorite race? No. Okay. You know why they asking you

that like that because the video gave that black people were the least favorite race. No Okay, you know why they're asking you that like that cuz the video gave the black people I got it. Hey, he had asked it was somebody that he was streaming with he was like What's your least favorite race and the guy was like, I don't have one Who's that shooting this this is a clip I don't know That was the first one I don't know It's helpful That trolls You said a black guy you said you said my dad you said a black guy when you said my dad fired her He's black Or three because you said it was the black person.

It was the first one. Then it was the second one, the person that worked for your dad that was a woman. She was lazy. And then her boyfriend came and robbed the jewelry store. Yeah. Or something that your dad owns a jewelry store. So black people are your least favorite race?

No, no, no, cell phone store. Cell phone store, yeah. OK. So black people are your least favorite race? No. Were they ever? No. OK. I love everyone. I'm all about the people. Oh, you in that video. Um 18 18 probably damn

I don't think y'all understand like this last two years It's been like like it feels like so much longer like before then I had I didn't like go deal with anything I didn't go through anything at all. but this last two years like it just like feels like your life was nice but you not gonna have to go through shit I'm blessed I'm blessed you know my parents they came here with nothing they worked really hard and they gave me like whatever I wanted in life I'm not like I'm not gonna like lie and say like you know I had like a tough upbringing or anything you know my parents yeah we, yeah, we know that.

We know. We could tell. Okay. Are your parents racist? Huh? Are your parents racist? No. I'm just trying to figure out like where, like using Harriet Tubman as a slur and,

you know, the things you said on that video, I'm just wondering like, you know, what, what, what was your perception of black people growing up? So you guys, you guys do understand like, so first off trolling, trolling is not okay, right? But there like a lot of people have like, like then like as it even if it's as a joke It's not it's not good to do but streamer world YouTube world, whatever it is, like people make jokes like that But like back then before like they have about one race of people. No. Oh, no, you gotta see my no No, ma'am. You gotta see my clips my clips. I

so Oh man, you gotta see my clips, my clips. I. Give us some examples. No, I'm not gonna repeat it. But. What'd you repeat? I'm not gonna repeat it. I'm not doing that.

But there's no singling out, there's none of that. I was just insanely toxic. I make jokes about, I make jokes about Indians, everyone. Like any race you can imagine, it's not like singling out. But you're Indian so you can do that though. Yeah, but yeah, well I shouldn't do it in general. But I'm just saying, like that was my thing.

Like I tried to have that shock factor and I was being an idiot at home. But it wasn't. Did anybody ever put hands on you, pull up to your'm just saying like that was what I like that was my thing like I tried to have that shock factor and I was being an idiot at home but it was like put hands on you pull up to your crib or nothing like that I got jumped on stream but they didn't touch me but um it was I was in a Sprinter outside of my house they found out my location through a painting on and they were for Google reverse searched it they found my house there's six guys with masks and they they didn't see me in the Sprinter They saw my ex manager at the time and they just they were they just jumped him and they just stomped his face

I was they attempted to jump you but they got your manager. Yeah, they didn't they didn't see me in the Sprinter You know help. Oh, you stayed in this room. Hell no is that same help? I mean we wouldn't be talking to him right now. Yeah, yeah, it's LA is a dangerous place Oh, yeah, what it was about. I still don't know who did it. You posted it on your YouTube channel. I still have no idea, yeah. Oh, you was filming. No, we were live, we were live. So you just filmed it. We were live, and I don't own that YouTube channel.

It's run by a live editor. So everything from my stream gets automatically posted on YouTube. You think all publicity is good publicity? No, and I used to lie to myself and say that after a situation from way back then, but it's definitely not. I used to just try to make myself believe it was, but it's definitely not. I used to just try to make myself believe it was,

but yeah, definitely not. I asked my son about you, obviously he watches streamers and he knew who you were, and I asked him, like I didn't know anything about you, and he said, well he faked his death a couple times, and I immediately felt sorry for you before doing all this research and seeing that you just was a fucking troll.

That I thought that you were having maybe identity issues or anything, you know, something that would make you fake your death at some point. Because you know, you know, real people actually like go through these things. Of course. Where they feel suicidal, they want to take their lives, they feel like they're not enough, you know, and at very young ages. So I'm like, damn, maybe he was struggling with some personality disorders or just trying to fit in or whatever. And you doing the shit for what, just clout or what?

At the time, yes. But this is something that was like, well, can I not even pull up the date? But you did it a few times though, right? So what were the few? So no, there was, I did it when I was like 15. Okay. And obviously, and you know, people say like, you you know, I you know, I go by the motto I don't live with a grant, but that's one of the regrets I do have because at the time yes I was looking for clout and I didn't realize what I was doing and I was a kid

First off keep in mind. I was a kid I don't know keep in mind kids kill themselves and I understand that a hundred percent And that's why I use my platform to entertain people and advocate for people to, you know, just certain things. But yeah, that's definitely a regret I have. Did anybody care? They did, they did. But it just didn't like, obviously, and in the time too, I'm like, oh my God,

it's going crazy, but there was no real plan. That just shows how dumb of a kid I was. If you die, you can't come back, right? Like, obviously I was never gonna quit YouTube. So like nothing was clicking right in my head, I was just how much do you make you would say roughly on YouTube when streaming in totality? Oh? Like right now of course um you know I think I think I'm doing a little good for myself I have a long way to go so you make money. That's that. That's a money money in a month less more Some of y'all be lying man man. A million? I would never lie about my, no, okay.

A million a month? He been doing this shit for a while. Hey, man. How much you think you make a month? Just ballpark. I will just say that some of these deals get crazy, but it's not like on Twitter, they say like 30 mil, 50 mil a year, it's none of that.

But it's still great. Okay, so you said deal, so a lot of that money that people make are through sponsorships and other things. Yes. Okay. That's where a real money comes in at. Yeah. So forget this. If it was no sponsorships, no nothing, and you was just screaming, how much do those people make? Just the people that's just screaming? Average. It doesn't have to be you. Just the average. So people can understand what it is.

Like at my viewership? Yeah. If I didn't have any deals or anything? Maybe like a few hundred K, but the deals are like the majority So it's still good but like without the sponsorships and you know, it took me a while to even get deals and stuff cuz I was so like hated, you know, rightfully so but um I was so hated and stuff But you know now I'm slowly working to it to a different path

So brand safety was a thing they didn't want to be a part of oh, no No, no one wanted to be a part of anything I did at all So when did they start wanting to be a part of I think like Probably these past few like these past few months like maybe like the past like six months It's been it's been a lot different so so what are you getting paid for right now this hoodie to drink what oh? No, none of this. Okay. Yeah shit sponsor me Celsius spider That's crazy with the fake in a deaf it was a brain tumor you were talking about yeah You know it's crazy at a time. I didn't even I didn't know what a brain tumor really was

No, it's crazy is my mom's a stage for a brain cancer survivor. Yeah, that's amazing. I went through that in real life It's amazing shot I don't even think you understand that is so I looked up like what did you say you died for? What was the and then I saw that my heart drop? I'm like man. I experienced that in real life I'm so sorry to deal with that. She's OK. And I'm glad she's OK. And I'm sorry, but that's crazy. I'm so happy you've arrived here. But at the moment, because it was heavily criticized

at the moment, in that moment, you didn't realize, OK, I should get away from the trolling. What was the last draw I'm done with the crazy trolling? Like I said before, I don't remember what clicked in my head, but something definitely clicked in my head to realize that that's not the path I want to go on. Is it the fact that you have what, Crohn's disease yourself?

Yeah, well, no. Or what, has that ever been a thing for you? Do you have that for real? Of course I do, yeah, yeah. I don't know. Don't say of course, we don't know. We got a credibility aim too. I definitely do, I definitely do.

I thought Crohn's was a cloven life. It is, it's Crohm-Heart. Crohm-Heart. Crohm-Cree. Crohm-Cree. So yeah, that's why I didn't really go to school, because was in and out the hospital. True story. Actually, this is real. But um, yeah, I had like really really I was still do like Crohn's is never is never healed. But um, I was just hospitalized. I couldn't go to school. That's why like that was a reason to I was very sheltered.

Like I literally used a fake robot like a robot walked through the school. It was like a new thing that they did in the school. And the robot went to classes for me. So for like, yeah, it was crazy. So the robot had a camera that would go to classic classes. And then to graduate, I didn't go to school the last two years to graduate. The school, they helped me out and I just had to do like two projects, or like one project for each class

and they let me graduate. What does Crohams do to your body? It's just like, it's like really heavy inflammation. So they were gonna take my colon, I was gonna have to have a bag and shit through the bag. But we went to, we got like a bunch of multiple like different opinions and stuff. And then I went on this new medication and it saved me.

Really? You got the shit out. Yeah. Let me smell your breath. What is wrong with you? He was really about to blow. Listen, I do wanna say I'm glad that you learned early what so many people, including myself, learned late.

You know what I mean? Because there is no value in shock. And if you didn't make the pivot, you probably was gonna end up getting punched in the face or even worse, nowadays. And like you said, you wouldn't have the career that you have now, because now you're getting brand deals and stuff like that.

So I'm never gonna judge a young person for what they did when they were younger. Appreciate you, man. What was the most dangerous situation? I don't appreciate you, because nobody else might forgive you, but I'm just, I'm really doing this for myself. Because he's been through it.

He's been through it. Damn. He's really had his, he's done a lot of shit. I'm just not gonna be a hypocrite here, you know what I mean? He thought y'all was bonding, and y'all ain't like this thing got shit to do with you. That's the stress of the situation. He's really been through it. Oh, so we're inall was bonding, and y'all were like, this thing got shit to do with you. That's the stress of it. He's really been through it.

Oh, so we're in the same boat, brother? You don't know about him? He smelt J.Lo's chair. Could you stop? Sorry. Well, I smelt Gorlock's chair. You guys know who that is? Who the fuck is Gorlock?

No, let me look that up. Who the fuck is Gorlock? It's gotta be a guy. Who is this Gorlock? Pull up the picture. Gorlock the Destroyer. Oh. You smelt his chair, or you took my move?

Mm-hmm. Wait, hold up. Hold up. Hold up. What is happening? You laughing at that woman with Down syndrome? I don't know. What is Gorlock?

Who's Gorlock? You laughing at that woman with Down syndrome? How do you know that she has Down syndrome? Oh, Gorlock is a woman. No! All right, so you can say that, but I'm getting out. No, Charlamagne just said that. She don't? Let me see it. What? Gorlock is a woman. No! All right, so you can say that, but I'm getting out. No, Charlamagne just said that. She don't?

Let me see it. What? Girl like as a woman. I'm so confused. Yeah, she's a beautiful woman. Jess, come on, come on. I'm being serious, she don't have down syndrome? No.

Oh. Are you wilding? What's the most dangerous situation you've... Huh? She just a big girl. Yeah, yeah. She's large. Plus size model.

You smell the seat? Yeah. Okay. How's the smell? girl. Yeah, yeah. She's large. Plus size model. You smell the seat? Yeah. Okay. How do I smell that? Honestly, unscented. Oh, no. Unscented. Honestly unscented.

How did you end up streaming with Kanye? How did that happen? So Dave Blunt, he was in Kanye's ear telling him like, yo, you gotta do a stream with this kid or whatever. Kanye tweeted me a few times, or Ye, sorry. Ye tweeted me a few times. And then it just never happened. And then Sneko, another streamer, he was going to Spain to do the stream.

And then they were like, oh, you can bring someone else, whatever. And then he hit me up and it just all aligned perfectly. I was there for like five days before I actually got the stream. So it was like 8 a.m. wake ups. He was like just talking on and on. He was just like, he like 8 a.m. wake ups he was like just talking on and on he was just like he's just a cool guy like just like seeing the way he lives life and that dude is so talented and so like it's the smartest guy I've ever been around he's always mine's always racing he's always doing new shit new

projects yeah oh so now you just pissed off all the Jewish community oh no no I love the I love Jewish people you just came on here to just shit on everybody. No, no, no I love I mean, wow, I got so many Jewish friends Get me caught up brother Is hilarious that was crazy. What's the craziest situation? I seen you in Harlem with Jim Jones. What's the craziest situation Dubai? What was the crazy situation been in that you didn't think he was gonna make it out besides I've been in a lot of situations There's an idea Diaz thing, same thing, trolling. And I saw that he chased you.

He chased me. And they were like really like his security guards fisted up ready to fight like they're running at me full speed. These are 300 pound tanks running at me. And I ran onto ongoing traffic. Luckily, I didn't get hit. Then it was a parking garage. And there was two there was upstairs and the downstairs I ran upstairs and they thought

I ran downstairs and the upstairs door was locked so if they had ran upstairs I would have been but I'm so weak. I probably would have died if they punched me hard. I'm kidding I said I said like when you get knocked out are you gonna retire? But then me and they got on the phone cleared it fully That's a regular question. But it's some troll shit. Like you can't just say that to a grown man. From you I feel like he probably took it. I think he probably took it like that.

You said what? You said it before the fight. That's still not a bad thing. What did you say to a fighter when you get knocked out or you're going to retire? No. I swear to God that's what happened. I swear to God that's what happened. I know I got the article right here. I know.

What did he say exactly? He said that when you do get knocked out are you going to retire? But it's giving Oh when you do get knocked out. So it's giving. You playing with my ability like you don't even think I'm going to make it through this fight. That's not that bad. I still don't think that's bad. I think it's just because you were streaming.

It was good brother. Where's your security all the time? All these situations happen. He's right there. When the guy was just chasing him, it was like a tank. He wasn't with him back then. Oh, you wasn't with him? He wasn't back then? No, he wasn't.

Yeah, I've been through a lot of security guards, but Zo is the best. Shout out to Zo. Okay, okay. And why have you been through so many? Zo, why did you sign up for this, Zo? I've been looking at you the whole time trying to figure that out. I'm a very harmless guy, man. But look, why have you been through so many security guys?

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this? No, no one's taking a hit for me. So why do you quit? Why do you have been through so many? Well, no one quits. No security guards ever quit on me, but- Oh, you fire them? Yeah, because they're black and lazy?

Of course not. God damn. Of course not. Actually, I will- okay. Never mind. I just got to say, brother. Nah, they're not, you will, okay. Nevermind. I just got to say, brother. Nah, they're not. This is just hilarious.

So now I want to get to, now I want to know, what got you into streaming? How did you stop? Hold on though, why you just gave up on the question? You just gave me up on the question. I'm going to be honest. If I was like, you know, we got to run this back at 4 p.m. full energy and I could just be very happy and energetic. I've never done anything productive at 9 a.m. So this is like, this is interesting to me.

You said Aiden was in the chat, Aiden Ross? Yeah. Y'all had a little issue then y'all got back cool? Yeah, it's my brother. What you say about Aiden? Yeah, what was the issue with y'all? So, you know, there was this moment when I was, everything hit me so quick. Like everything hit me so quick like everything hit me so quick

in LA, you know Two weeks before I was sitting in my in my parents basement gaming every day like a loser Two weeks later I'm in LA in the hills with a fucking Lambo and like rented cars like crazy houses and everything was just a flash like I don't Remember anything I was blacked out like I was genuinely blacked out. That's what they say at a diddy party It happens a lot. Oh my have you ever been a diddy party? No, have you would you know? I'm only yeah. What would you go though? If he got out, I'm not a party guy. I'm not a party I'm the type of guy to sit in the corner of a club and just bought my head

So I don't like I don't like party We got to come at him fast. He asked for questions. He's drinking that damn speed, so since... But what you do to Aydaross? Oh, you're the LA blacked out, yeah, exactly. Yeah, so me and him, that was the guy that really put me on. I really owe a lot to... What's funny, man? He's laughing at you. Go ahead.

Okay, alright. That's the guy that really put me on to help me because he saw the vision in me and he knew. He told me, even off stream, every day, bro, I'm gonna help you do this and do this and you're gonna do this and it's exactly what happened like he gave me the Platform to be able to even shit be here today. What do you see in you that you didn't see yourself? I mean, I just have low confidence like I even myself like I just feel like a fucking like random but He just saw the potential I guess like entertainment value and like everything like he's he always knew I had it in me And I never did and like he literally he booked my flight to Miami and forced me to leave my house and try doing like IRL content like he literally but he got my info my name and booked

it and like forced me to come I didn't want to go I just wanted to stay at home so about your confidence what what why are you not confident what is I mean I just feel like I don't know I feel like I feel like I mean I think they were all normal people we're all regular people. We all die one day, we're not different than anyone else. But as a streamer, as a person, I don't feel like a top dog. I don't feel like one of the biggest. Wait, let's get into the chat,

because Aiden Ross, there's a comment pinned in here, he just commented and said, Neon, I promise you they trying to belittle you and disrespect you. You shitting on all of them, they are weird as fuck. Fuck them. Talking about who? Us, us in here the chat is live in the breakfast Anyway, that's what this is not a Ross's interview. So fuck him too We're all friends. Okay, you know

The comment is pinned in the chat. I'm in the chat with the W feel like we trying to be little you near I think you know as you know, we should all come together and I'll just That's my guy Monkey I'm literally looking and I don't see any of that This is wild racist though. They like, fuck this black bitch, monkey, watermelon, shit emojis. I'm literally looking and I don't see any of that. You're lying. They race baiting, they fuck the short hair monkey,

they race baiting, fuck the breakfast club, walk out neon. His phone, he can't see nothing, it's moving so fast. And I guarantee any of your checks, if any of the motherfuckers was here, they wouldn't say it at all. That's another thing about, you know, streaming and just being behind.

You also have to understand this isn't my, this is the internet. This is not just my chat, my community, right? This is the internet. The internet, just like me, back then, would say whatever they want. Yeah, yeah. So this isn't like a representation of me, obviously.

But it's funny though, because the reality is, I know this is a bunch of kids in here who don't know no better, but if we were really assholes, we wouldn't have had you up here. And as soon as I heard about the concert, I think we'd have told you, get the fuck on. I mean, disrespecting somebody's mom,

and then saying that shit about Harriet Tubman. If we were really being assholes, and really trying to be little you, we would have told you to get the fuck out. I understand that, man. I just feel like at the end of the day, you can't hold something against someone if they're changing and becoming a better person.

But how do we know you're changing, and how do you don't know to really believe you and you build your whole I understand it being a liar of course and no one has to believe me that the other day if you don't want to Believe me you don't have to believe me If you actually sit down and watch my streams and understand the growth then you see and if you don't it's It's like at the end of the day. I don't like I'm not here to prove anything to people I can do it the best I can people could judge me. I don't care I'm not here to prove anything to people. I can do the best I can. People can judge me.

I don't care. I'm gonna- I respect girl. People always evolve. People always evolve. And if no one wants to- Like who I was at 21 is not who I am right now. And that's the same with you.

I respect evolve. I respect girl, I already told you that already. I respect girl. But there's no reason for coming for someone for something that they apologize for five times. And it was not the person who I am now. And it was years ago. So like just coming for the same thing just doesn't.

What people gonna ask you about it? No 100% but like bring it up like six times. Aiden said ask why he cheated on his wife. Let's talk past shit. We've already talked about that. You were dressed up. Yeah. I am missing a number of times.

I was like, I just said my book, we talked about it in the interviews. What's the name of your book? Put time out, put time out. I'm glad Aiden brought that up because what you're doing right now, Neon is holding yourself accountable and not running from who you were of course because who you were has gotten to you to Where you are now?

So you are a testament to these young people who need to know who need to learn early what people like us learn late, so Whatever like I was you at Donald Trump. Were you gonna they said you were gonna Do something with Donald Trump at one of these UFC events. What happened with you? Yeah, another situation. I was on stream at a gun range and I was like, when I see Donald Trump, I'm gonna press him, whatever.

Oh, you wildin'. That was a crazy one. Yeah, dumb shit. Somebody on his side used to fuck me. Yeah. Yeah. He said, he used to fuck Charlamagne. I'm like, what?

Wow. But I'm serious. It's the main or the main? It's the main question. I came in and went too fast. I was like, what the? That might be true. No, but he isn't even faster. His phone is like, it's the man or the woman. It's the man or the woman. I came in and went too fast. I was like, what the? No, but his is even faster. His phone is like, you can't see nothing.

Let me see what you said with Donald Trump. So what happened? How can I leave it? I'm going to say, who fucked me? That's what you worried about. So when you did that, what happened? Did the Secret Service reach out to you? They don't play that game.

No, they didn't. It was just like, I mean, it didn't go too deep. It was just a thing where like, obviously Dana White and them were there pissed. And then, off stream, I walked up to him like a man and I was like, same shit, like man to man apology. Shouldn't have said that. What'd he say?

He said, it takes a real man to come and do that. I really appreciate you and I accept your apology. And everything's good now. And LeAngelo Ball, he actually dropped Tweeker on your stream. Yeah. And then y'all had like some issues? No, no issues at all.

It's the Clippers. You know, the Clippers make everything out of context. I actually talked to Jello like a week ago, you know, me and him, you know, very cool guy. It's just like, he came on stream for like 30 minutes the next time we met and then everyone, you know, took it out of context as if it's like he's trying to like have an ego or be weird or anything. But in reality, like that's what the stream is supposed to be.

It's supposed to be like a quick thing, quick reunion and that's it. But yeah, I fuck with Jello Heavy. Talk about the Clippers, because when you say the Clippers, you're not talking about the team. You're talking about people who clip up content. Yeah, so those are the people that- And there's a lot of money there. Oh yeah, for sure.

Yeah, so those are the people that actually made the song what it is today. I paid out, just for that song itself, I paid out $100K just to make that song poppin'. And it was one of my biggest Clippers, his name is King, he posted it and he made it go everywhere and then that went from that to Jello performing in the playoffs and all this stuff. So it wasn't me, it was them, it was the clippers. You know?

So does the clippers work for you? Or do you work for, okay. They work for me and it's, you know, they give me cool stories, it's so cool. Like clippers text me, they're like, oh, I'm the richest kid in my village in India or like I just took my parents on vacation from the clipping money. So it's just jobs for people.

My highest clipper is making 60k a month, just from sitting in bed and clipping and posting shit. So it's cool, it's definitely cool. Talk to me about Kick, right? Kick is a home base for a lot of screamers, right? And screamers on that platform seem to be held to a certain standard. What do you think that standard is

and why do you think the platform is so popular? Well, I think, you know- Cause I heard you say it was like the dark web of screaming one time. Yeah, it is. There's a lot of, you know, it's unmoderated and that's what people like, like on Kick, especially. Kick does have a very toxic fan base, I will say that,

but they are deep. And like the fact that a platform can come out of nowhere and like at least somewhat compete with the other ones Like on Kick especially. Kick does have a very toxic fan base, I won't say that, but they are deep. And like the fact that a platform can come out of nowhere and like at least somewhat compete with the other ones is pretty crazy and how fast they did it. But you know, I owe a lot to Kick because I went on there with nothing and they believed in me and they gave me everything I have today and without them I wouldn't even be here. But they are a really big platform they're growing. They obviously have Stake and all this stuff too, so shout out to Kick kick. They have a huge announcement. You said you're gonna make right?

But I do want to I want you to answer this question because I wanted to be on record people are watching you evolve in real time So what made you become more intentional about switching up your content? I Just think it was just like a realization that this is not what I want to do. And when I realized that it didn't like, when the shock factor is gone, right, and people are watching to see what dumb shit you're going to do next. When you stop doing that, they stop caring, right? So I went down for a little bit and I knew I was going to go down.

I was like, this is not what I want to do, but I will go down and you know, in the longer term it will work out. And then now I feel like I'm doing a lot better for myself and I'm doing what I actually want to do, like bringing athletes on stream that like I used to play with on the video game and and doing stuff going to Different cities and places where I've never could have imagined me going like zone six in Atlanta Greatest people ever having a great experience with these people at a cookout doing all this stuff like you with 21, right? 20 yeah, it was it was a long stream 21 there's baby drill lotto like there's just so many people doing that stream, but

It was it was a long stream 21. There's baby drill lotto. Like there's just so many people doing that stream, but um, yeah just like I'm like now able to not have to do all this stupid shit that I never like that I don't want to do and I'm able to you know, do the streams that I love What's your goal as a streamer guys seeing you just on the record deal, right? Yeah I don't have any goals like I mean, I obviously want to be the biggest streamer in the world But like I've never sat down and like I want to hit like this amount of followers this amount of money Whatever. I'm just going day by day and just living life. What about life goals though? Writing down where you wanna be.

It's crazy, I don't have any. Really? It's 20. I don't have any goals, I'm still learning life. So I'm still trying to figure out, everything's just like next day, next day, I'm just focused on the now, which is maybe not good. Nah, I mean you're 20. Now you said the record deal,

what was the record deal about? You got one. No, hell no. You have one? No, hell no. You have artists? Huh? No, so it's just like um, it's like uh, like I'm just gonna, shit, chat. Is it like A&R where you bring in music to people? Or promo?

Yeah, yeah, that type of thing. More like promo, so they pay you to promote artists and things like that. Well, we're working together, but yeah. Cause what you did for the tweaker song,, how many other artists would thrive off that? I mean, that'll be good. For sure, the Tweaker thing was very special because it was just very organic and natural. We didn't have that planned going in,

so it was like, we were just chilling. I was just trying to create conversation. I was like, you got any music? I didn't even know he had music, and then he's like, I'm gonna play some shit, and then it was just like that. But other than that, artists have come on, and they don't go as crazy as Tweaker,

but they still do good. And the streaming industry is just getting bigger and bigger by the second So I think it's a good way a good crossover. I saw you earlier this year say I think you were talking to complex you said you still feel like you haven't made it So what does making it look like if you don't have no goals or you don't know where you want to take this? Just how do you ever know you made it? I don't know. I don't know. Are you able to pay your bills? Are you able to pay your bills?

Yeah. Do you have a roof over your head? Yeah. Do you eat every day? Yeah. You get some pussy from time to time? Oh, yeah. OK.

Oh, yeah. You've made it. You're doing all right. Success is subjective, bro. I want to be the best at what I do. And I haven't gotten there yet. I got to master the crafter streaming. I got to be the best at it.

And I got to do big things. And I still haven't done that yet. But I feel like I'm- What makes you the best at what I do and I haven't gotten there yet. I gotta master the craft of streaming, I gotta be the best at it and I gotta do big things and I still haven't done that yet. But I feel like I'm- What makes you the best at it though? Like who's the Mount Rushmore screamers? Like if you had to pick the four all time goals. I'll say the three. The three people that innovated streaming

and made streaming what it is today, Speed, Aiden, Kai for sure. Okay, Speed? Those three are the ones, like Speed's just a different level. Love Speed. Kai, Production, Crazy crazy Aiden's the one that started the Whole trend of bringing the people on stream and craziest run I've ever seen in my life Um, but there's a fourth spot still open basically what you say? Yeah

I hope so And that makes sense to where you are now with like trying to figure out way to rebrand so that you can do more and reach More people. Yeah for sure. And I just want to enjoy it at the end of the day Like I have so much fun streaming, right after this, I slept for two hours. I'm gonna go home, I'm gonna sleep for an hour and a half, then I'm gonna go to the American Dream Ball and do some shit and then keep streaming

the rest of the day. I'm really just like, this is what I enjoy doing. And they'll be able to see if I didn't enjoy it. If I didn't like it, they wouldn't even be watching. But I think you've learned a valuable lesson that a lot of the other screamers haven't learned yet and that there is consequences to your actions and there's consequences to your words. So when you out in the street, people gonna try you. Like you saw when AB got into it, that was

the Aiden Roth event, right? Yeah. Yeah. Like those guys that jumped your manager, like shit is real. So it's like these guys that be talking slick online, you know, people gonna see. Oh yeah, no, there's definitely consequences. And I've dealt, yeah, I've dealt, I've just been very lucky because like with the shit I've done in the past, like I should be like, like someone could have done something to me like bad for sure. And I, and, and, you know, thank God nothing happened, but it's just like, I'm blessed. Is the manager okay?

Yeah, yeah, he's fine. Okay. He's still your manager? No. Okay. I wouldn't be a fucking manager. It wasn't because of that, but he's, yeah, he's fine. Okay, he's still your manager. No. Okay, I wouldn't be a fucking manager. He's gotta be a free agent. It wasn't because of that, but yeah, shout to him. Shout to him.

I got you. And that's one of the reasons I like the screaming world because when I look at Kai, when I look at Spiege, those guys are the top guys and those guys are always positive. And so it makes everybody else want to be positive because they see them and they see that they've had a lot of success.

So they're not on a lot of the fuck shit. But trolling is a big way to go to. A lot of people follow these trolls. I don't think trolling really works anymore. It doesn't last long. It doesn't last long. It doesn't last long. I think it's so like regular now that it doesn't like wow you.

So we don't think nothing's real anymore. You know what I'm saying? And then you being so young, a lot of people look up to you. You've been doing this for a long time. Like all your chat and shit of people look up to you. You've been doing this for a long time. Like all your chat and shit, they look up to you. So you changing your image is the best thing to do because like I just said, trolling don't last long. And it's a lot of kids, a lot of little kids

that are struggling with fitting in and feeling like they haven't made it, you know, because they live on these platforms and they look at you and they're like, oh, he's young and he's rich and he's doing this and doing that, you know. So you, if you are more positive, that's how you keep them. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And growing up with them like, yeah, they're living their lives too. And I just want to be a good example because for a while I wasn't. But I feel like, you know, they're living their lives too. And I just wanna be a good example because for a while I wasn't. But I feel like they could use me as an example.

I'm a normal kid without streaming realistically. I don't even know what I'll be doing right now. I'm just like the people watching. We're no different. Aiden said, it's so funny, as soon as I started talking, they chilled out on you. Keep going, Neon, you killing it. What is he even talking about?

This nigga is stupid as shit. I'm telling you. He's white. Somebody said the monkey club. Okay, I'm really saying, you wanna crack a dumb as shit, I'm telling you, he's white. Somebody said the monkey club. What? Okay, I'm really saying, what the fuck? Crack a dumbass shit.

I'm telling you. The watermelon emoji is just crazy. All right, wait, we can't... Don't know what... How the fuck? Look. But he didn't use a word like that. Shut up, monkey.

He put in the C words kind of crazy. What are you talking about? Monkey bitch. But he didn't bring... Stop with the monkey shit. He called me a monkey. What are you talking about? No, he didn't call you that.

Yes, he did. No, that was someone in the chat. No, that was someone in the chat he didn't call you that. Yes he did. No, no, no, that was some of the chat. No, he's reading with Aiden. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, How long did it take you to get poppin'? How long were you streaming before it worked? Because everybody thinks things happen overnight. How long did it take until you got your first real check? Well, I didn't see any growth for years. I was, it's crazy because, you know, I don't really talk about this much, but I was trying to just, I was so like, I was so invested into becoming the biggest and becoming a streamer and doing something for myself,

to where I was even learning how to make thumbnails. So y'all know Duke Dennis, obviously, right? So I made like two of his- He's from South Carolina. I don't know him personally, but he's from South Carolina. I've made two of his thumbnails before. So like back then, back then, I was learning Photoshop, trying to build up my Kinects,

like whatever it took. But this was years and years and years of no growth, like 100 views of video on playing NBA 2K until I even saw anything. How do you feel like this interview went for you today? Aiden's upset, but how do you feel? Nah, he's not upset, it's my boy, so he's like, you know. Why you do this? He this interview for you today? Um, it ends up saying but how do you feel? No, he's not I'm sorry. It's my voice. He's like, you know

Do you feel like cuz I think in coming here right I know you have the announcement Have a conversation with obviously black people over here. I feel like the conversation went Oh, you know, I think I got came for a little bit, but you know, it's it's it's you expected that though, right? I think honestly, I've you know what? I've done stuff like this. It's usually been like a one-on-one. There's a lot of people. Um Rapid fire, but yeah. Yeah, it's rapid fire. It's alright though. I think you guys for having me This chat is funny because it's the same old shit they say online about everything So you say you got a major announcement that you gotta make, right?

You gonna make that announcement now? You probably don't. I'm gonna probably go somewhere else and do this. Somebody said, they just said trolling doesn't work, not a press. They just said trolling doesn't work, not a press. What does that mean? Use the shotgun. Sorry, what did you say? What's use the shotgun with them. It's a shot. Oh, no

Use a shotgun it's the most friendly. I'm about to make this announcement. What's your name? Shotgun is just a different angle on the camera. Oh, no, you're just you can give it. Okay. No, wait what? Oh Shotgun mic man. Okay. Yeah chat everyone chill man. OK, yeah, chat. Everyone chill out. All right. All right. Everyone chill out. I just, you know, so they defend me a lot because, you know, there's a lot. There's a lot of things being said. So that's why that's but there's no reason to say stuff like that. I totally understand.

Like, let the chat be the chat. But no, but the one thing that's so funny, though, is I guess they're not really listening. I told you. What did I tell you? You can unmute it, JCB. I'm glad you learned early, what so many of us like myself learned late. Yeah. How long do you think it took you to realize stuff like that? Oh man.

I was wilding well into my twenties. He just told me that my hair, I was not no edges. Probably early thirties too. Listen, this was crazy, right? I'm glad that you're telling your chat to chill. I don't give a fuck about what they're saying about me. You have two black people working for you, two employees, and they are spewing the monkey, the this, the that, all the racist comments. You got two, like you got a black man protecting your little ass, you know what I'm saying?

Your cameraman, black, you found me? They ain't got to know me. I don't give a fuck. But these people are obviously close to you. Oh, yeah, you gotta love them Oh, yeah, you wouldn't you know I'm saying you can't do this shit by yourself You have to have a team team is black a lot of them. I actually pretty I think my entire team's black You know what I mean? So it's like to brandy Right, so, you know, you might wanna you gotta tell them You can't control that control I told you can't control it I can't but if they love him and they're following him and it's like he got to still be the representation

Well, of course you can tell him to chill but at the end of the day it's the internet like the internet can say like Just like when I was at home, I could say whatever I want like there's no like stopping What what a live chat says like if this was stream? I agree like there's that there's literally not there's nothing That's why when you can't stop them, you gotta make an example. Of course. I know you can't control other people. That's why when you catch one of them little shit talking motherfuckers, you gotta make an example.

I will say this, if you really evolve and you really change it, I respect it. Thank you, bro. I agree. Sometimes we get crucified for things we did when we was younger and stupid, and we need to change. I know I myself did I know same same same It ain't a problem as long as you're really apologetic and change behavior shows everything fuck everything else

And there's nothing you gonna hear there should be nothing people hear about you on the internet that they haven't heard from you Correct. That's my model live your truth so nobody can use your truth against you Whatever they saying about me in that chat, I wrote about it in my book, I've talked about it on the radio, talked about it in podcasts. Do your thing, you know? You might need a mentor here, Charlamagne,

because I'm distinct from how you do it. No, I'm part of the mafia. Are you making, I forgot my bad. Are you making your announcement here? What's the announcement? He's thinking about it now. It's shit. If you don't want to.

Why are you taking it back because we asked you the hard questions? I just know everyone's going to be, everyone's on my ass for this already. Like they're, they're violating me. What'd you ask the corrupt people? What are they violating you for? Why are you being violated? Because they're telling me to like,

because I've been getting, I've been getting bitched pretty much, but. Being bitched by what? Why? Now that's what they're saying. Oh, by us? See, I see this. Don't listen to these people.

Don't you, did you feel like you were getting bitched before they started telling you that? Like come on. I feel like I was getting ganged up on, I will say that. What's four of us? Well yeah, but just cause like, you know, like certain things like, you know, you guys bring it up and I like explain it

and then it keeps getting brought up. Like multiple times, even after like, and this isn't like, you know I've talked about like these things like hundreds of times. But not here, this is a lot of people's first interactions. Yeah, but like I already talked about it once but but it just keeps, it's just trying to go deep in.

I totally understand. That's the issue with the internet too, is because once it's out there, it's out, because that clip that I played for you, that clip was just reposted I think about a week ago. If we didn't ask you, our audience would be saying, well you didn't ask him about this and you didn't ask him about that. Because our audience don't know you, you know what I mean? So you're obviously coming here to, and you probably gained some fans from this. Thank you, thank you.

And gained a lot of haters from this as well because there's hate everywhere. Just like, you can't control them hating on you in there. You can't control the love and none of that. So I do understand how you felt about it. I think you still handled it very well. Thank you so much. I didn't tell you to be so young.

I'd love to come back in a year and you guys see all the growth and see where I'm at and then y'all will be like damn he wasn't just talking. I agree. I think you should. And listen to the experts, I've seen a lot of people come up here and fold under question and crumble. You didn't do that.

You handed yourself very well. You did. I appreciate you guys. Thank you guys for having me. Now what's the announcement? He don't want to give it to us. He don't want to do it. He like I'm not breaking my shit down.

He brought him to the Black Family reunion, he going home now. How's the time to do announcement? I already know what it is. He don't wanna give it to us. He don't wanna do it. He like, I'm not breaking my shit down. He brought him to the Black Family reunion, he going home now. How's the time to do it? I'd love to come to the reunion. I'd love to come. I'd love to come.

I'd love to come, let me know. We should all hang out off stream. All of us. Are you getting paid to do what it is you're doing? Your big announcement? Yeah, are you getting paid to do it? Are you getting paid? No. Oh, okay, okay. Oh, you're just doing it because you want to do it yeah

i heard that well i can't even ask you until you say it but okay no no no what's better what's better what's better what the move you're making where you came from or where you going yeah i was like i ain't even seen nothing yet we know it we just want him to this is what you came here for i'm gonna let i'm gonna i'm gonna oh my god don't let them do nothing I mean we know it we just want him to Don't let them do nothing don't listen to the chat man I'm telling you some streamers that wouldn't last five minutes in this motherfuckers. You did great. You did great They are coming in and fold they can say whatever they want behind the screen, but they wouldn't last All day damn that going to breast club and get get bitched because the chat told you that? That's because you saying a bunch of people

telling you got bitched? No, no. You still got your pride, you still good, you changing, I mean shit. But this ain't the last time that this is gonna happen if you continue to do press because this is real press. That shit on the internet, I'm not saying the funds that you make from it ain't real,

the attention that you get from it is not real, but like when you talk to real people in person, that is what, you know what I'm not saying the funds that you make from it ain't real the attention that you get from it is not real But like when you talk to real people in person That is with that, you know, I'm saying that connection that being that that person that in person shit Yeah, that's real and that that right there is not helping you It's not help. They're not helping you with what it is. You're doing you evolve faster than they have. Yeah, you've evolved But you can't have I'm not talking about the people that are saying the crazy shit, but the core people without them, nothing. And without them watching me, I owe these motherfuckers my life.

I owe them the world. I'm not talking about the people that are saying crazy shit. I'm talking about the people that watch me every day and support me. Your audience. And I love them. I hope they're influenced by your growth and they grow too. Absolutely. For sure. They definitely see it and then and every day they they you know

They they see it and they sit and actually watch my streams and see the type of person I am like, you know Clips are another thing where you could just see the clips and everything is clipped out of context But when you actually sit down and watch a stream and you know, it's crazy cuz I do these streams and like these communities They hate like I just stream with you know, you know some sketches sketch Okay, um streamer his community when he announced a stream all else like fuck him whatever and then the stream after the stream like w wow this guy's actually you know you gotta really sit down and watch the stream and yeah i feel like these people are growing with me and and and developing with me and i love them

i love them i wouldn't trade this this for anything i love you chat i love you guys so much i appreciate it 32 000 people watching you right now is that a good number yeah i mean watching you right now. Is that a good number? Yeah, I mean, it's very early It's like it's 10 a.m. That's good. It's very early. You're gonna do it now. No, you're gonna hold it off I'm hold it Neon we appreciate you. Thank you guys so much. I just want to say you next year. Thank you for giving the platform to talk And thank you. I'm your platform, too No, of course, of course I think you know at the end of the day, like I said, come back in a year.

You guys will see where I'm at and we'll all, you know, laugh about this. Don't forget, because then the year I'm with I'm going to come. No, for sure. I'm going to be here. Thank you guys so much. And shit, you all are going to. I don't know. I'm so tired. I love you guys. God bless. All right. Neon, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

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