The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Nate Jackson Talks Kevin Hart Roast, Comedy Critics, Dave Chappelle, Comedy Show At Brooklyn Improv

Episode Date: May 22, 2026

Today on The Breakfast Club, Nate Jackson Talks Kevin Hart Roast, Comedy Critics, Dave Chappelle, Comedy Show At Brooklyn Improv. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower10...51FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:19 J. Nogh, Salarie. We are the Breakfast Club. Lon La Rosa is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. He's performing at the Brooklyn Improv on the 23rd, ladies and gentlemen, comedian. Nate Jackson. Welcome, brother. What's up, y'all? How you feeling, man? You're getting too much money.
Starting point is 00:02:34 A lot of money. What are you looking at this, making you talk like that? You're getting some money, man. I hear your name everywhere. Amazing. Amazing rooms. I don't like that. That's not how I like to get my money. I don't like to get my money loud. I like to be quiet. Let me take some shit off. I'm not. Nah, fuck that. They got watching Julian. Yeah. No, don't you worry about that. That ain't the swatting, Pete, man.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Don't take the jury off, man. This is a write-off internal revenue service. I'm not getting no, man. Let me rephrase. Man, Nate, you out here making move, man. Yeah, there you go. How are you, though, man? Man, things are good.
Starting point is 00:03:19 And I'm, like, really good. Like, really good. Like, I'm really good. I've had people tell me, like, I'd be all shows complaining and stuff. And that was where I was at. I'm like, I'm not complaining. This is my truth.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Right now, I am one of the, I've got to be the happiest comic in, on earth right now as we speak. Why? Why? Just too many, like, too many, like, storylines. Too much, too many, too many, too many storylines are all just like coming together and making sense. Like, you saw that interaction right there. Byron Allen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Yeah. Byron Allen's like, oh man, you're so, you're so fun. I'm like, what? Yeah, he did. Yeah. I mean, but like the week of Netflix is a joke, like a lot of stuff came to its own culmination. Like, probably like 19 different things that were just like, I wonder what. I think I want, like all the answers.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I'm so happy. So Brooklyn Improv, I've never been big on New York because I don't, like, it's so many people here. And I think that's an acquired taste. But it's a lot of people here, man. Absolutely. You're always like, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. You know what I mean? They don't say excuse me, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:04:32 No, they stand on you like it's an international trip. I'm like, y'all don't see me? And they don't. There's too many people. But I'm starting to like, I kind of get like I get it. Like I went and checked out the cellar and all this. I'm not just doing book and improv for one week. I have two back-to-back weekend.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Oh, wow. And so we've already sold out seven shows was last weekend. And then we're going into the next weekend with, I think it might already be a rap. But I've been having fun out there. It's a nice club. I love it. And so, I mean, even that, like, the opportunity to not headline one weekend, but to just lock in, that's different. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Yeah. Embracing all that. You know what I mean? And I went from, you know, hardworking West Coast comic to, like, finding some success and traction on the Internet to basically theaters, which is, you got one, you do one night and then you go. You don't get to eat nothing, meet nobody, see the city, or not. So for me to be like, I'm about to be in Brooklyn for 50. days. When I get home, I'm going to have an accent. We're eating everywhere, checking out everything,
Starting point is 00:05:33 seeing stuff, so you really get, like, you just get exposed to more culture and stuff. So I'm in a very happy, very happy place. What's your motivation? Is it just to be better than Gary Owen at everything? Wow. I love it because I, on the way over was like, I wonder how long before he brings up Gary. Four minutes, four minutes. I don't even think that.
Starting point is 00:05:52 No, I'm not motivated by being better than the next person. Gary had a beautiful wedding. I thought you were going to be there. out in Texas. He doesn't like him. He thought he was going to be there. He's not his real friend. Charleney's not Gary's real friend. I think that might be like the angle.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Yeah. To just like be cool but not too close. You were there? I win. I had a ball. But you wouldn't know because they're real friends. They're running around you in pictures. So I went out.
Starting point is 00:06:13 No, but he had a beautiful wedding. Bree looked amazing. The whole family was there and all that. So that's dope. I'm proud of Gary. He's doing great. That's amazing. That's going to be.
Starting point is 00:06:25 That's it. What photo did you take that you were edited out of? Or which one did they not post of you that you were looking forward to? I was at the wedding. Oh, okay. You were up for real? We didn't see no pictures. He was there.
Starting point is 00:06:38 He was there. He was in the cast. We didn't see no pictures of you. Keep looking. And they cut people off each side. Damn. Damn. It doesn't matter, though.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I didn't go for. To be seen. No, I went to just be like, all right, Gary's in love. I feel like there's like the game. And then there's like, this is our personal life. And so I went, I was a part of that. I was like, that's what this is going to be. True. The fact that People Magazine was snapping pictures was an afterthought until that starts
Starting point is 00:07:00 scene. I was like, oh, yeah, the cast really is here. Yeah. Because when he told us about it, I thought he was joking. Like, he was really going to have the cast of think like a man as his groomsman. It was the hottest wedding I've ever been to in my life, though. What do you mean hot? They turned the air off. Oh, wow. Gary was literally like dripping wet. They were like trying to keep him dry. And it was, it was sweltering. Lou Neal was like, man, God. Damn. It was so hot.
Starting point is 00:07:27 It was so hot. I was like, Gary, I said, you guys going to hell for your honeymoon? Why is it so hot? Where was it again? Texas, we were in Dallas. So why would they turn the air on? Got me?
Starting point is 00:07:38 I'll be honest with you. I don't give a damn about this wedding. I wasn't invited to it. I wasn't invited to it. It was super viral. He invited you when he came up here. Yes, he invited you when he came up here to do the interview when he talked about it. That wasn't a real invite.
Starting point is 00:07:51 No. That was like, I got to tell you about the wedding, I invite you. Like a real invite. comes with an invitation, crazy. Oh, yeah, well, he didn't give him an invitation, but he did tell, he did tell Charlemagne, he wanted him there. I bet Nate got an invitation.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Anyway, back to comedians with Netflix specials. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. You feel like Hollywood is kind of co-signing you now? Because you came up without any co-sides from Hollywood. Do you feel like they're buying it now? It doesn't matter? More than one thing can be true at once.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Yes. Like, there can be a part of Hollywood that is rocking with me. That's like, oh, I get it. and he translates and there can be a part that's like we just don't and then at the same time it's like who doesn't and who does may be so late it's like we already are going direct
Starting point is 00:08:34 so I think and that's the next level of whatever is when somebody connects all the dots and goes let's harness all of this that he built on his own and put that into this right like if I got 7 million 8 million followers world like on all my stuff
Starting point is 00:08:50 and if they all go watch whatever movie I'm in you just had a hell of an opening weekend and just off me and I don't even got to be the main character. So when they connect those dots, I think that that's the thing. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:09:01 I have some stuff coming out where it's going to put a lot of perspective. Like I did Bad Monkey season two and I was supposed to only get two episodes and ended up getting 10. And I'm legit and seems almost the entire season with John Malcovic. We're like friends now.
Starting point is 00:09:14 And I had to, I had to, that's Malcovich. I'm across a coffee table from them, I'm having to hold my own. But when that comes out, it's going to be fantastic. We're picking me like,
Starting point is 00:09:24 oh, he got chops. And so again, this past week of Netflix is a joke. Like, I used to be in L.A. going to stuff and my name ain't on the list. I'm like, I'm like, Jess, Jess. Hey, yo, I don't know them right now, son. Shut up. I'm never done that scene. No, you're good.
Starting point is 00:09:39 But that's, you know how that is. Now I was like, I'm good at you. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, okay, finally. Because I was there at the roast on the red card. People calling your name, they know you, they see you. People love Nate Jackson.
Starting point is 00:09:52 And that's, I hadn't seen that love before. Yeah. And I don't know what changed. I don't know if it's... What turned? What changed? God me, I think they're just like, we ain't stopping him. So...
Starting point is 00:10:00 I think consistency. Right. You think so? Yeah. And like, Shalemae said when you came in, like, your name is not only everywhere, but people are seeing you everywhere now. You know what I mean? And I can only be where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:10:10 And don't nobody tell you where they saw you. Don't nobody tell you where they saw you. You know what I don't know what happens to the room when I walked in? I just walked in it. You know what? And how was the rose? How was the rose? I thought the rose.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I had a ball. man. Anything uncomfortable? Because, you know, everybody, of course, off the moment. No, I'm a comic first. Like, you had to separate your sensibility.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Like, don't be sensitive at all. You already know going to a rose. Someone's going to, it is someone's responsibility to be wild as hell. Yeah. If not everybody on the day is, like everyone should be going nuts. Like, if you look at the history of roast
Starting point is 00:10:43 and some of the stuff that was saying, look up what Richard Pryor said about Paul Mooney at his birthday roast. But you know the difference between that? What? But you know the difference? It was close. It was actual friends.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Like, like, I'll give you that. Yeah, whatever you say amongst friends is one thing, but I think that when you bring in, like, the George Floyd's of it all. No, so I was saying outside, I literally was like, you know what? Tony Hitches had the best roast out of everybody.
Starting point is 00:11:08 He had five times more jokes than anyone. He had way more laughs per minute. He was on fire. He was killing everybody in the crowd, not just like one side was laughing. You could see it was not bipartisan. And then when he got up, he just started, you saw him win by the third or four.
Starting point is 00:11:24 They're like, oh, he's on fire. His last joke, I turned to Dionne Cole and was like, man, he ain't had to do that, man. He hated until that. Because my thing, to me personally, I'll write whatever. Like, my pen is strong enough to be like, let's do it. But I only want to talk about people who are there alive that are, you know what I'm saying? And I get that.
Starting point is 00:11:44 It was so relevant that it's in the zeitgeist. Like it's a part of the culture. Like the George Floyd thing should have shaken the world. You know what I get it. But I don't. Like just to whip it into the back half of a metaphor To just say that you're funny I was like, ooh, that was unnecessary
Starting point is 00:11:59 Yeah But I just thought I was like I said, what's it, Stephen Jackson? Yeah I said, yeah, you're going to see him I said that I was like, yeah, you ain't gonna take that joke very like And Jeff told me Matt Barnes was that So imagine if Stephen was in that crowd
Starting point is 00:12:12 But that's what I'm saying, imagine if somebody that loves George Floyd on that level is in that crowd You're free to say the joke But boy, you got to deal with the consequences Oh, you got freedom of speech That's right But people got freedom of a bit, bing, pink, pink, pink, pink, Bink, you know what you want.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Say what you want, but she'll be binking. Jail don't scare everybody. No. You know what I'm saying? I'll be like, I go right back. That's the person who's going to do it. And some people do their jail math. They're like, okay, how much is this going to cost me?
Starting point is 00:12:37 Right, exactly. How much time I'm going to do for this? It's worth it. What's a body shot going on me? What's a chin shot going to? Yeah. That's why the highlight of the night for me was Cheryl Cat.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And it was Tony until he said the joke. I said that here, I was like, yo, he was going, going, wasn't coming up in the head. He was like, yo, it was crazy. But his ending was wild, and it just made me like, it made everybody cringe, you know, for the most part. It was like a sailboat
Starting point is 00:13:04 with hell of wind. And then that last one was like, oh, they ain't going to make the sure. Damn. Like, he had. And then Naim Lynn had an amazing saying. Yeah, Naim. It was funny. And he kind of set the tone because he was much, he was early on. Yeah. And he was on fire. And then, like, but Cheryl, again, everyone watching was like,
Starting point is 00:13:20 Crazy. She was, she was, you got to like exhale like finally, somebody, yeah, because Kevin was laughing. And Cheryl was like,
Starting point is 00:13:29 he was like, what's like at this mic? I don't feel like nothing beats black deaf comedy jam era energy. If you come from that era where you was in the deaf comedy jam like the cats, the Cheryl's,
Starting point is 00:13:39 if you come from that style of comedy, that's top tip to me. Period. I actually, I, so because we haven't had a show like that in like 20 years, I put my own bread up
Starting point is 00:13:50 and shot a show called the Super Funny Comedy Jam at my club. We got 54 comics. Like, I mean, we're in post right now. Wow. And so we're going to put that out. I spent... All up and come in? Or? No. I mean, I can run names. I don't mind that at all. Tony Roberts got a standing ovation.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Chris C.P. Powell got a standing ovation. Tony Baker's on that thing. Then there's a bunch of new faces that are like, what? Reg Thomas that just came down the line on Kevin Hart's Funny AF, Justin E. Kelly Kales, Hashima Franklin. Who else was there?
Starting point is 00:14:27 I'm telling you, we had 54 comments. Black Ron. We had voices from all over America. I flew everybody up to Tacoma, and we shot it with the same team that shot my Netflix special. So it looks amazing, sounds amazing. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:14:39 It's fast moving. I showed a couple people like, this looks like TV. I'm like, what did you think we were doing? Yeah. So that's going to come out soon. What are some of the other women that you thought would have killed?
Starting point is 00:14:50 at the Rose, not just Cheryl, because we just had Cheryl, to be honest. And Tiffany was sitting up there, Tiffany ain't come out swinging, you know what I mean? She ain't say enough and she ain't get a chance to go up there and Rose. But just up there to go after the follow the Tony Radclips and the Jays and the, you know, Shane Gillis is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:08 I mean, my bad, what I call him? Ratcliffe? Yeah, my bad. Like Danny Ratcliffe? No, I understand the mix up. But I'm saying like what I said out there that I'll say again, and I want to make sure I don't miss my words because I, I am, like, I love what Cheryl did.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Yeah. Fan of Cheryl. For sure. I want to put a pen in that. Cheryl's awesome. Bam, got that. In that spot, though, who else could have probably hit a home run, in my opinion? I think some more would have hit that.
Starting point is 00:15:35 You know what I mean? At least a triple. Yep. You know what I'm saying? Adele Givens. Yep. Miss Laura. Leslie Jones would have ate in that spot.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Coco Brown would have flipped the entire building on its back. you would have cooked in that spot. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Chef it. Yeah. And the little chocolate, you had a little, you had a, did you see what she wore? Oh, I did on the carpet. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:02 She had like some little, what were them shoes? They were, oh my God. What were gold on the end? Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were nice. The ones from leprecha. You know what? You didn't say that to my face. Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I said I looked really nice, Nate. You looked amazing. Thank you. That was dope. Jeffrey Campbell. Those are Jeffrey Campbell's. Okay. But yeah, no, I'm totally with you with Adele and Leslie.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Like, yeah, absolutely. But I think that they would have rocked that spot. I think, yeah, I think so. I think, sure would be phenomenal. But I wouldn't even just say, like, oh, it needed to be a female either. Like, I would have liked to see, like, something, like, Quake would have went crazy right there. Yeah, he was there. It was just in the audience.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Yeah. I mean, we were all just there. That was our Super Bowl. I don't know. Be honest with you. So, I thought it was fun, but I think people just have to separate, like, jokes from like true sentiment you know what I mean I love that that was our Super Bowl yeah it was it was nice so who's the next one you did good too though I'm sorry the next person then did that with a rock
Starting point is 00:16:59 yeah who would you love to see get roasted decks um okay so I think I think the concept based on what I'm looking at is they're trying to get goats of different industries concept is dope yeah but to be that big right it was Tom Brady then it's this I was saying uh LeBron when he retires would be crazy Tiger Woods wow I don't think Tybalt. He's not going to be able to come back. Tiger ain't. I think Shaquille O'Neal would be wild.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Shack could be good because Shaq could take the boys. You can't act like he's not one of the greatest players ever. But LeBron, wow. That would be good. Yeah. But there's something, like, Tiger Woods would be, because he keeps getting in trouble. But I bet he'd be like, don't talk about the accidents. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Michael Phelts, I don't know. If you don't want to talk about the accidents, you can't have in it. Yeah, man. You got to be able to talk about everything. You got to be dope. Ron will be dope, Shaq would be dope. Mm-hmm. May I-R-R-Jeter.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Jeter would be dope. What's something you think young comedians, you know, that chase the internet, chase the bar out clips, don't understand about actually becoming great on stage? There's no, you can't skip any of this. Like, at the end of the day, you're like, oh, you're killing it online, but go do this five, or go do your 10, or, all right, bet,
Starting point is 00:18:07 let me see your hour. There's only a few people who are translating across from that. And there's people that have success, but I think like, you know, that's a lot of eyes on you. You go out, people buy tickets, and then they see what's up. And then I think that we see the truth the second time somebody goes out. Because it's like, all, do they feel like you baffled them first time out? Did you just get them all mystified by the, oh, I love this clip and I love that clip, so I'm going to buy a ticket.
Starting point is 00:18:33 All right, well, when you go out that second time, did the city come back more of them? That's like, all right, well, now you're bona fide with time. Like when D.C. was going on, D. D.C. is on his ninth lap of him. You know what I'm saying? Like that's a bona fide. Desi's still out or... Hey, I'm Tori Webster and I host That Digital Take.
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Starting point is 00:19:26 We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name,
Starting point is 00:19:38 Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking, I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was...
Starting point is 00:19:53 This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad,
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Starting point is 00:21:44 I'm rocking with it. And he's funny. We might do something together. After we messed around to the laugh factory, we were seeing, like, I went to my team and was like, I'd entertain that for sure. He was already like, nice, let's go.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Yeah. Like a little, like a young what, Turner Tower, that's who he'd give me all the time, turns Howard. He reminds me of a young D-Ray. Chicago, light skin, different color eyes. Yeah. Different color eyes, light skin.
Starting point is 00:22:10 He's not about his comedy. It's stupid. D-Rae's got it. D-Rae's goaded. So, D-R-R-R-A-R-D. That's a hell of a compliment. But I also believe, like, the stage
Starting point is 00:22:20 gives you a different level of validation, too. 100%. You know, like, social media makes everybody think they're funny, but to me, a real comedian knows how to get up on that stage and make everybody laugh. And to me, that's what takes you
Starting point is 00:22:30 to that next, next level. 100%. You can't say, cut, hey, let's do that again. It is linear. I want you take to say, whatever you said, ain't no go-backs. That's right.
Starting point is 00:22:41 You don't get to. to say a joke, damn, all right, hold on, let me let me run that one more time. The crowd, like, what, what, boo! That's what that's what that's that's what that is. Or crickets. No, so that's what that, the truth is that, right? Like, you know, isn't Broadway more authentic than
Starting point is 00:22:55 what we watch on plays are more authentic, live plays or yeah, it's all in one direction. And the true talent is, like, I can't believe we capture it, right? There's no second take. There's no run that back. That's why I'll never stop doing stand-up because it's the true litmus test of like, do you still have your
Starting point is 00:23:11 funny are you still sharp you ever got to that place where you did a show and it was like it didn't hit today have you been there no but I have done shows where I'm like they just made me work yeah I'm like by now I would have had a certain amount of laughs I'm like to get the same amount I'm like I am sweating
Starting point is 00:23:27 under this hat like my hair line is damaged under here what market is the toughest market toughest market yeah if there is one for you New York has always been known to be a beast really everybody always says that in New York Yeah, people say that. I found like, I found, like, D.C. is also a good one to, like, really, like, see where you're at. Hollywood is tough, too, because everybody in the crowd think they're a star, too.
Starting point is 00:23:56 But they don't want to laugh. Everybody's too cool. Yeah, you're trying to be cool. You best to just talk about that. Just cook somebody. Oh, Mr. Cool right here. Like, that's how you're standing up. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:24:08 But, like, this is the thing that's changed. like with the internet like being full circle to your question like once you have the internet you actually have a following the people coming to see you you're not talking to general you're talking to your fans that like they're ready like you have uh you have a um a grace period to work it out and float like they they love you already yeah hardest show is go do a show where there's nine comics doing 10 minutes and you you see what I'm saying like Netflix is a joke big old showcase like I thought the Shack and Bert show was challenging because it was a completely sold out show but it was my
Starting point is 00:24:44 sold out. I've been sold out five years. It beat my people. That wasn't my people. That was like a rule. I had to earn again. I'm like, okay. You know I mean? My first 10 minutes, every set here in Brooklyn they're like, all right, what do you got? You know what I'm saying? And then 90 minutes later they're like, he has it.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Because you know it's a following now because I remember when I used to go to Carolines a lot, you really didn't know who was there right? Right. You looked on the post and be like so and so, so and so, like you didn't know who they were and then you had to catch. But now it's more I can follow you and be like, oh, my favorite comedian is going to be in town, I'm a little checker, so it's a lot different. But what changed for common, I feel like
Starting point is 00:25:17 maybe about four or five years ago it was very sensitive in the comedy world, right? People were scared to say certain things. People were very, put your phones away. You always want to know about cancel culture. But I feel like it opened back up now. I feel like it opened back up where it's... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I don't know if it's open all the way, but I do know that that roast was most definitely needed. Like, because now people really are just got to understand if you don't want to be rub, just don't watch it then. Literally, that's what I said. was sitting in that room, Nate, by the end, when Meek Mill was up there performing,
Starting point is 00:25:44 I was singing a song, but I was like, yo, I don't know how I was ever canceled. Ever. Yeah, you said that somewhere, too. You're like, yeah, after watching that,
Starting point is 00:25:51 I don't know how I was canceled. Yeah, no, I'm saying that ever since the rose. I really do think, being canceled, you have to accept that and be like, I'm canceled.
Starting point is 00:26:02 You have to move like you got canceled. You don't forget Shane Gillis, that's what he did. Remember Shane Gillis? Yeah. Got the SNL gig. They went back to his old podcast, heard some slurs he said cancel them he went back to the grind so he don't give a fuck Shane
Starting point is 00:26:16 Shane could fall off tomorrow and still be good because you got a huge core fan base that's gonna keep him rich it's nothing they can do nothing they can do and that's what I'm saying but let's say he behaved like he was canceled let's say he was like man nobody wants my stuff and he shut down he didn't right like yeah that's right canceled it like you got you we don't like you and then so you stop recording songs you don't rap no more you don't She don't know jokes. She don't do no shows. That's canceled.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Like you have to accept the case. If you go, look, I'm going to still do my shows. It is what it is. Yeah. You may have just knocked me down from 20,000 Cedars to 10,000 Ciders, but, like, I'm funny. And I got a chance to say my side, two sides of every story. And there's so many other outlets. Louis C.K. was rocking all week at Netflix's.
Starting point is 00:27:02 It was so many people that are supposedly, it's a rap for them, having great shows. Yeah, because the conversation around him was so big. But, like, also, these people. are white as fuck, too. Let's just like be all the way of hunting with it. Like, you're really, their cancellation goes to a certain point, you feel me? Like, nobody's
Starting point is 00:27:20 taking shit from them. Like, for real. But I think what Nate is saying is true. A lot of black people act like they're canceled. These people, like, I can name so. I don't want to take no names. I will. We still listen to R. Kelly. No, I'm talking about media. I can name some black community.
Starting point is 00:27:35 We mean. Like, radio doesn't play R. Kelly like they used to and he has amazing records. But I'm just keeping it. go to get some, you're like, man, that 12 play be gone on. I can name some black comedians right now who supposedly got canceled.
Starting point is 00:27:48 What they name rhyme with? They said, suck my dick, fuck y'all, okay? I'm going to do it. I ain't, I don't want to say that. You make everybody else say names. Right, exactly. And he usually say everybody else's name. I will say this, though. Okay, who were they around? So I'm, so I am. Do you think podcasts have
Starting point is 00:28:06 helped comedy? Yeah. Because they help you keep from being canceled. You can Keep your podcast going so you got your audience. You can stay on your stage. You can still keep doing your sketches and everything else that you're doing online. You can't act like you canceled, like you said. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:20 But also... Eventually, we notice a dick riding business. So once you keep growing that audience, they'll be right back on your shit. That's a different. I'm a bit of the business, y'all right? Wait a minute. I'm not right.
Starting point is 00:28:34 No, dicks, what are you talking about? By the way, this is a perfect example. Of doing what? A power. When you got hot, because you started doing everything on your own, what happened? Everybody started writing. Hey, Nate, hey, Nate. You want to be in this show?
Starting point is 00:28:50 You want to be in that show? Blah, blah, blah. So that's what you're calling, dick riding? It's a dick riding business. It is. Okay. I just think people gravitate towards heat, like moths to a flame. Dix's a warm.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Oh, great. Dick's a warm. So, what you know what I'm saying? Once you create your own heat, I know. I don't know all the dicks are warm. Once you create your own heat, the moths will be attracted to the flame. Right. Now, let's
Starting point is 00:29:18 stop saying the word dick. But I think that and that's what I'm saying I saw all week long. Right? That was my first, like, being like, oh, I'm not gravitating to someone. There's actually people like around me.
Starting point is 00:29:34 That was what it was. Six sold-out shows at the Laugh Factory and it was packed. Like, Joe Koi popped in, and earthquake was just chilling. D.L. was, these are friends now. They're just chilling having cigars and talking like, they could go anywhere. They could be anywhere in the world, let alone,
Starting point is 00:29:50 we're going to be upstairs just chilling at nature. But they're, that, I don't know, I just felt like, like, welcome to the table, young man. Was that the biggest storyline for you that came together to welcome to the table feeling or like? For me? Yeah, that week. For me?
Starting point is 00:30:04 Because it's been 24 years of grinding and be like, y'all don't see me? Right. Yeah. How hard I got to go on stage? How sweaty do I got to be? How hard are I got to rock? How many shows I got to do?
Starting point is 00:30:13 How big do they got to be before? And then something just happened. And now I am so... There's literally nothing to complain about. I'm good with everybody. I don't have beef with nobody. I don't have... You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:24 Whatever I did to move the needle, I already didn't took that energy. And now we're about to put 54 comics out that with Netflix-style looks. I got a TV show about to... Like, I'm happy. I'm up for some stuff right now that if I get...
Starting point is 00:30:39 You can forget about it. If it happens, I'm telling you I'm happy. My mama good, my nieces, everybody good. When you get. Not if you get. You better talk like you already got it. It's been ready to say it. I can feel it on you.
Starting point is 00:30:52 I shook my head like I got a picture. I got a picture. I'm shaking you that long. Oh, shut. You had to shake your head down. You got to shake your head down. That's the door move. She's looking that face down.
Starting point is 00:31:07 How do you tell the difference between genuine love and people who just want access to you now. Other people be like, we don't like him, well, we don't like her. Okay. Because my default is like, what's up? I'm not going to change who. I have to, I have to be me.
Starting point is 00:31:22 So you need that, you need that, you need your grim Reaper on your team. That's like, ah, nah, we see you from a mile away. To be honest with you, that's the other thing. Like, you can see it from a mile away. It's the same character. This is just a different person playing it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:31:36 Like, how many times are somebody going to try to be Mr. Ha ha, ha, ha. and the hand is out next, right? Like, you start to see it after person six, especially women are easy to see, you know? It's really easy to see it. Some people, if they're, if they just can't for some reason, they're out of blind spot, their right-hand man,
Starting point is 00:31:54 or they partner or their sister, or somebody's like, I don't like her. I don't like it, you know what I mean? So it's not just, if you get close to me, you got to get, there's a whole rock of people that are like, who are you than what you want? Yeah, you got to get vetted. Do you smoke cigarette?
Starting point is 00:32:08 Uh, sometimes. I usually just hold them and then, uh, and I'll put them out, but I don't really smoke them all the time. Somebody told me that they were concerned about you smoking cigarettes. Who? They said you a chain smoker. That sounds made up. Yeah. That sounds made out why because he used the word.
Starting point is 00:32:24 They say you smoke more than Dave. And I was like, nah, I ain't never, because I've never seen Nate smoke. I'm not like I'm around him a lot, but I smoke. I smoke. If he smoked like Dave, I'd see him smoke. I smoke, but I don't think anybody smokes like Dave. And I've never seen nobody with a cigarette lit. name I'm holding another cigarette about to pull another one out the box.
Starting point is 00:32:43 You know, and holy moly, yeah, he smokes for real. I actually have some jokes about, like, that, because I had bought some cigarettes. The night that he did, he broke the record, he did six hours and, like, 38 minutes at the last factor I was there. And it was a long show, and he broke the world record at the time. And halfway through, he was like, I'm out of a cigarette.
Starting point is 00:33:08 And I had went to go get some, I smoked Newport's. And they didn't have any of the gas station. They only had American Spirit somethings. And Dave was literally like, who has an American Spirit? I was like, what? And I did the first time I had some. So I ran down and like, but he took like nine. Like he took a disrespectful amount of cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:33:28 And so, which I told him at this brush that I was at during the night. I'm telling you all these storylines came together. At that brush, I was like, hey, how many cigarettes can you take from? And they get once. Like, it was crazy. You don't pinch the whole front row off. Damn. The other cigarettes were like,
Starting point is 00:33:42 they all fell forward. I was like, this is so disrespectful. He was like, my bad. But like, at the end, I'm like, Dave, I'm Nate. And he was like, thank you very much, cigarette nigger. And then he walked off until the night. So I have a whole set called cigarette nigger that is like, all the times I've met him.
Starting point is 00:33:56 So I told him that, he was like, hilarious, you know. He knows your name now. We're good. So he did a promo where, did you see his announcement for Netflix as a joke? No. So he's sitting on, like, I don't know, I think he's on the Getty, way up above the city. All the city lights are out there,
Starting point is 00:34:15 and he's just sitting there lighting a cigarette, and Morgan Freeman is voicing it. And he's just like, Netflix, he is a joke, he's coming back to Hollywood. Something's missing. Dave, that Dave, my friend Dave. Now we got a ballgame. And then he smokes a cigarette.
Starting point is 00:34:30 But it was like epic. I went to the highest point I could find in Tacoma, Washington. We shot, put it in some AI, Trenton, my man. We locked it in and we got AI Morgan Freeman. He's like, Nate, Nate Jackson. I don't know this, nigga, but he gonna be there too. Nate got six shows.
Starting point is 00:34:49 So when I saw Dave, he was like, nigger, that promo, and that's when we just hit it off. And then I started talking about, I was like, you know, do you remember when you did that a cigarette, nigga, blah, blah, blah. Like, he was like, you're good with me. He said he's gonna come to my club. He's like, we should swap.
Starting point is 00:35:03 I'm like, I will move to Yellow Springs. Just so you'll go to Tacoma. Like that's that's massive Like if Dave Chappelle Go to my club And to come What? Yes
Starting point is 00:35:13 What What? That's going to happen It's a A club It's I got 280 It's beautiful But that kind of booking People hear about that
Starting point is 00:35:21 Across, You know what I mean? Like there's a I would argue There's a pretty good chunk Of the industry That's like what's Dave doing? Like where's his motion
Starting point is 00:35:29 Right And that's kind of like Oh well let's do that Or don't do that You know what I mean So if he's like Yeah I'll go do it Which he said
Starting point is 00:35:34 And he said it three times I'm like All three things of them one of them was real so he coming we'll see when do you I think I asked you to sort of kind of early but I want to ask you clear do you think the internet finally made gatekeepers
Starting point is 00:35:47 irrelevant for comedian? No because you can't call a venue you can't route yourself you can't go by like oh here's my 40 tour that you still need an agency you still need I mean I don't think I think it may have gotten rid of the manager
Starting point is 00:36:02 if you're willing to answer the phone or figure that scenario out I think you can get by with a strong assistant at this point but unless you have a thorough manager where you're like you get it let's build something serious but you like you know if you go hey I want to do Chicago Indianapolis I want to do Miami like they aren't even taking you serious when you call like who is this you don't got motion like that but CIA calls on your behalf and it's like oh yeah let's discuss routing because it's not just you it's their cumulative strength by having 50 comics to go through so now you're just yeah you're part of the wrong
Starting point is 00:36:37 roster. That roster is the strength. You know what I mean? So, but as far as a gatekeeper in like regards to getting exposure, yeah. Like you don't need to send set after set after set to whoever is the gatekeeper for the tonight show anymore.
Starting point is 00:36:53 It's like, look at this like, however many people are watching that, I promise I've dwarfed that this month in views. You know what I mean? Whilst I would still love to do it, but it's like, it's not like you are or you are not. And that's how it was.
Starting point is 00:37:08 If you didn't get Carson, you don't exist. Like, you're a comic? Where? But now you go to my page. People go, they see a blue check. Oh, you legit. The check or the numbers or whatever it is that makes people go, oh, there's legitimacy here. That doesn't rely on somebody who's watching a thousand tapes a day anymore.
Starting point is 00:37:26 So yes, but to a certain ladder rung before it's like, I need some help to route this. How do you test new material out? In between old material. Yeah. But I'm saying, though, like... No, that's literally like an Oreo. Okay. And the new jokes is the cream.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Okay. I'm not... Because if you do a new joke and it don't go over well, you'll spend the rest of your set trying to get them back. If you already have them, then you try your joke. And it goes well, cool. But if it doesn't, you already know what you're going to after that. Now it's not a dig.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Yeah. But see, it's the thing. You are household name now. Like, people know you wherever. So where would you go out? Or do you not care if somebody got their phone out? trying some new shit that you ain't really perfected yet you know what i mean like how do you i don't care i don't even understand why we're bagging phones all over the country i don't i don't
Starting point is 00:38:15 understand i don't understand it uh i don't care okay um here's how i see it uh i'm going to be able to post the video and way more people going to see it than you are off your iphone and i'm working with companies that make sure my name and likeness isn't out there outside of my own page just pull it copyright strike it whatever yeah um you know i mean yeah when you do you do you Did you just special, you didn't take phones either? Mm-mm. Yeah. That didn't need to.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Really, I'm encouraging it. Really? Why not? Because they mark it for them. What? Yeah. I got one. But we're going to make one post.
Starting point is 00:38:49 They're going to make, if there's 200 of them, it's 200 posts now. That doesn't interrupt what you're doing when you got phones in there? No, but I will be like, turn them glasses off because I see them, you know, they try to watch an entire show with the glasses on. Yeah, that's the new show one time. Or somebody was like. Wasn't it Kevin? It was Kevin Hart?
Starting point is 00:39:03 Right. He took it from you. Yeah. Yeah. I got her kick me out of the show with her. It took the phone and everything? He didn't take the phone. He had the metal glasses on.
Starting point is 00:39:11 You can see him beeping. It was not no metal glass. It was not the meta glass. That wasn't even taping. I got six kids. So I keep my phone on. Yeah. The wife called.
Starting point is 00:39:19 I go like this. Pick me up. And they kept seeing me. Kept up. Damn. It said bye. Right on the way. He said by right on the mic.
Starting point is 00:39:28 He said by on the bike. Yeah. The next day. The kid and I said, he said, if everybody know you by man. And they kick you out, they know it's serious. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I think if I was, I think if I'm like, all right, I'm rounding, I'm rounding third base on the material that's going to be in my next special, I may then get protective to be like, nah, because y'all leak something. Like, then I could understand that. But right now where I'm like, I'm throwing everything at the wall and just keeping with sticks and then throwing the sticky stuff and seeing what's even stickier. And then throwing the stickiest and then be like, what's all that stuff?
Starting point is 00:40:05 That's what I'm, doing right now. I'm having fun on stage. It literally I'm enjoying I'm enjoying myself. So that's where we're at. You want to film that? Have at it. But if they film a lot I'm like fam the camera. I know. I noticed you 10 minutes ago and you're still rolling. Or some people they pull it up and they're like right on you. Right. And like you don't see the light on your phone right now and they don't even be knowing. Oh my bad my bad my bad and then two minutes later the light back on. I'm fam. I think they're They know you do a lot of crowd work, so they want to be a part of the show.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I'm with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, I'll tell them, like, we got six cameras or whatever. Like, we got coverage. You know what I mean? Thank you. We don't need your little. Not a joke.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Well, come film Nate Jackson at the Brooklyn Improv. This weekend and New York City will be. Six shows. If it's not so bad already. Charge your battery and come film everything. We appreciate you for joining us, Nate. Really do, man. Nate Jackson, he's going to be at the Brooklyn Improv again.
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