The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Nina Turner & Derrick Dowdell Talk Training, Energizing Voters + More

Episode Date: March 25, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.
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Starting point is 00:03:19 Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Yep. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne Tha God, Jess Hilarious. Envy is not here with us today, but we got some very special guests, a friend to the room. Ms. Senator Nina Turner is here. Good morning. Good morning, Char.
Starting point is 00:03:36 And, you know, last time Senator Turner was here, she— I did the swirl, the twirl. That's right. We were talking about how good you look. Yeah. And, you know, you said you wanted to bring your trainer Derek Dowdell Derek Dowdell, good morning Derek How you doing?
Starting point is 00:03:48 Bless Black and Highly Favored How did y'all two link up? That was a while ago About 10 years ago I was training up at Title Boxing Teaching class for boxing She came in Not knowing what she was doing
Starting point is 00:04:04 Awful Did you see what she was doing awful and awful damn just you see what he doing this morning but it was cool you know we just formed a form to buy and start talking and she needed some training so i looked out you gotta talk to the mic there oh oh yeah yeah my fault so i looked out for for the training and this we've been tight ever since ever since yeah we consider ourselves sisters and brothers absolutely we've been tight ever since ever since yeah we consider ourselves sisters and brothers absolutely he's been in my life through thick and thin and that's really a big deal because working out is a mental it's for your mentals and i know char for you the mental health thing or just kind of self-awareness it's not even mental health is about self-awareness
Starting point is 00:04:39 and what you need and physical activity is very much a part of that and one of the things i love about him you can come into the gym and if you he knows when you're not right and so i'm kind of i'm an introvert a lot of people don't know that but i go in and if my mind ain't right he'll ask what's wrong with you and i'll say no he's i'm asking you a question what's wrong with you and he'll he'll probe until you kind of tell him you know what's wrong and not every kind of trainer does that some of them are just really concerned about physical and it's a mental exercise too and he's seen me up and down he's seen me really small from stress and again a trainer might say oh i got you know she lost a whole lot of weight that's good he was like oh no this ain't good this ain't good because it's
Starting point is 00:05:20 the way you lost the weight and you look sick unhealthy and you know lost everything and i need to go eat some french fries some sweet potato pies some right that was only in that situation but the moral of the story is it's not just about how much weight you lose it's how you lose it and it's about your mentals too and he combines the two very well are you like that with your other clients as well oh question yeah I stay on my clients we cool we all have a good bond he bossy though
Starting point is 00:05:56 too I can tell I shoot straight with him you know I don't like when people late oh my god the only way to get people right he even know when I you know he wants us like when people late oh my god oh man got to even though when I you know he wants us to text when we not coming and I'll
Starting point is 00:06:10 come in and sometimes you know I'm traveling a lot and I won't text he said oh you think you grown yeah that's a problem oh you ain't let me know you won't come you know you got about 50 clients he's like oh I know you gotta be engaging with your clients yeah it's a form of discipline as well like you're teaching you're not only teaching uh i mean you're
Starting point is 00:06:29 not only training you're teaching you're actually yeah discipline i like that how did you get into fitness oh wee so i was i was i was a truck driver alright yeah I was a truck driver so I you know was having chest issues so I went to the doctor and I was 275
Starting point is 00:06:53 I was a big boy so the doctor was like yeah man you you on the verge of having a heart attack at 28
Starting point is 00:06:59 so I said oh no we can't yeah right it was serious your widow maker was called huh
Starting point is 00:07:03 was the widow maker at a blocked out no no it was no it was just doing too much you know eating crazy No, we can't. Yeah, right. It was serious. Your Widowmaker was called? Huh? Was the Widowmaker at a blocked out of the house? No, no. No, it was just doing too much. You know, eating crazy, drinking, just doing too much. Out of shape. So, you know, I started working out, got in good shape.
Starting point is 00:07:17 And then I've always been passionate about working out. Yeah. And then it just went from there and took off. Yeah, it took off. It just clicked. And while we're on that, Char and Jessess i want to shout out a young lady her name is morelle mccain and she i know you do the women's history so i put black history and women's history together she just made team usa in boxing she's from cleveland she's the first woman and the first
Starting point is 00:07:41 black woman to make team usa in the boxing category from Ohio. Her name is Morelle McCain, and she's raising money to try to get her family to be able to go to Paris with her. Wow. And so I just want to shout her out. Her Instagram is is a millionaire mole. So for anybody out there that wants to help a young Africanamerican woman who is on the rise and doing the thing and just representing and i know you like your little boxing too show me you got in the ring with somebody from cleveland i'm blanking on his name i got in with uh sean porter yeah sean shout out to sean yeah you got in the ring just yeah oh yeah i watched the video me spark me and sean yeah he was talking all kinds you know char but since we own fitness and I'm just really
Starting point is 00:08:36 so proud of her and one of the things you guys were talking to the actress Marcia and talking about being there for each other and lifting each other up and And that's why I want to shout that young lady out. And one of the reasons why, you know, I brought my trainer. One of the things just in my relationship with Charlemagne over the years, and we met when he moderated, when Senator Sanders was running in 2016, he moderated a panel at the Apollo. And thanks to Figaro, that's how I call it, Teslin. That's my girl.
Starting point is 00:09:02 She advises me on politics, you know, really pressed the campaign to do a lot of black outreach. And that's how Char and I became friends. And we just clicked. And we've been together ever since. But he really lifts up and he especially lifts up black women. Yeah. And that's what I love is something particularly spectacular, delicious when it's our men lifting us up. And shout out to Michael Render too, Killer Mike the same thing and when people like defend you in public because for me I'm a lightning rod so Dr. Rashad Ritchie of TYT which I hope you guys will have on is another one of those when our men defend us in public
Starting point is 00:09:37 when people come, it ain't nothing like it, you know God's love is strong but black love is right under that and so I just, you know. Wow. I just got to shout it out. I know that's right. You know, Dad, you a fitness guy. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:09:54 What's your thoughts on this whole Ozempic era? Everybody's an Ozempic gold medalist nowadays. Ozempic gold medalist? It's crazy. I mean, if it works for you, it works for you. Me personally, I mean, I don't know, you know, because I know a lot of people use it. But like I said, if it works for you, it works for you.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I mean, it started with the diabetes thing, but, hey, they found another way to work it, and it works well. Because I know people personally that's on it and they shrink up me too i'll just bring this yeah so you never notice the long-term side effects but i know with the ozempic you it'll have you flabby too so you gotta get that work in too it's just not you can it'll it'll stop you from eating you know it's all kind of side effects it how you constipate it it's different things but it will have you lose the weight but you know you also get flabby so you gotta get that working and come see me anyway how do they come see you though right how do they come see you how they reach it
Starting point is 00:10:55 derrick dowdell training uh get at get ddt.com and you can look me up on Instagram, Derek Dowdell Training. It could be all over the world, right? Yeah, absolutely. Okay, make your claim. No question, no question. So you can stop someone, because I'm honest. Listen, I'm going to be honest with you. I got, like, a couple friends that are like, I'm thinking about doing a little dynamic, and I'm like, but you don't need it.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And she's like, but, you know, my insurance paid for it. It's a lot of people using it being lazy. Right, right. You get what I'm saying? So what are some things, you can do i mean you you know some tips that you can just throw out there that um that can help you unbig your back oh man big back something else um big backs or something else i mean first of all you got to be stop being lazy because uh we live in a microwave society now so people want instant gratification and they just want, ooh, it's gone.
Starting point is 00:11:46 But now you got to get up. You got to work out. I mean, just walking every day. You know, go to the treadmill, go to elliptical something. You know, but one thing I know you can't teach, you can't teach sacrifice. So people, you know, if you can't sacrifice the time for yourself, then, I mean, it's a downhill for you. Yeah. And part of it's in the
Starting point is 00:12:05 kitchen too i mean i joked about how small i got which he was very concerned about that but 85 percent of it is in the kitchen he talked to us about that he eases you into it because eating should be pleasurable but you not you can't outwork a bad diet you can't outwork when you're not eating properly and it has to be a lifestyle so i use the word diet uh kind of lightly i don't even like using that word really but it's a lifestyle change and it's a combination i've been up and i've been down i've been up and down uh stress could go either way yeah and it is only when the mind the body and the spirit really came into that intersection together that i found myself where i am right now and i'm healthier you know only i guess when i was in
Starting point is 00:12:52 high school running track i'm just as healthy as i was then and it's a beautiful beautiful feeling but if i ever let the mind body connection go off track you could lose it so we're always up and down in life, right? It's called life. But you just got to be conscious of it. And having a personal trainer keeps you conscious of it. All great athletes have coaches. They're not doing it out here rolling by themselves.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And that's what I consider him, my coach. Yeah. Listen, I had a personal trainer too. Look, I was doing everything except for the vegan stuff. I said, I don't need to eat a bunch of plants and bird food to be healthy i can eat what i want my problem was i was eating and then laying right down that's that can also cause other stuff too you know clog arteries all types of stuff but i work hard i mean i had a six-pack and i'm pregnant i'm about to be five months pregnant people was like how did you did you, you're pregnant, you still got a six pack.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Yes, I do. And I'm a little mad because my little baby is, she busted all the way through it. Yes. But I had abs at three months and four months pregnant. That's a fact. Come on. And people don't, you don't see no other bellies out there like that. You don't see no bellies like Jess.
Starting point is 00:14:03 No bellies like that. When I drop this baby, I i'm gonna get back right you can hold it against her for the rest of her life let me tell you something my son is is 33 and shout out to my first unconditional love it's my baby boy and i still call my baby even though he's 33 but that's my baby but yeah i hold it against them every time i look at the stretch marks i'm like you did this to me yeah you owe me but no we can say hey i almost died for you yeah but i mean maternal uh you know black women mortality rate and uh maternal uh rates are very high we gotta i'm joking about that but that's serious it's a sacrifice that you're making yeah but shout out
Starting point is 00:14:41 to you for being and you you're to lay a strong foundation for your baby about health. And black people, we need, all people need it, but the type of stress that black people are in. Man.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Maybe we need to be out there walking and jogging and doing it. Yeah. Doing it. You know, when it comes to the training you're doing,
Starting point is 00:15:00 Nina, is it preparing you for this fight that we're going to be in for the next few months or are you even fighting I'm fighting sorry you know I'm always fighting one of my dear counselors said you live in opposition I said you know let me decorate in that month I mean let me decorate you might have to put that in here let me let me move the furniture around let me put
Starting point is 00:15:22 some photos up on the wall no I am sure because I'm very concerned about what's happening right now, what's happening all over the world, whether it's Haiti, the Congo, Sudan. And I talked about a whole lot. And I know on Front Page News, you guys went into Haiti with Figaro. But also what's happening in the Gaza. And so, yeah, I need to be, especially the type of work that I do, and I'm a lightning rod all the time. People to come for me yeah I got to be mentally and physically yeah I'm training y'all I'm training for this battle oh yeah I care very much it's the
Starting point is 00:15:54 it's the Biden Trump rematch the rematch nobody wants that's right and you've been saying preaching that gospel from the beginning man what what should they be doing to energize people to come out of noville well Trump's people energize already. Biden's people are not so much because this president has to really deliver material changes. And so you can't come out for bipartisanship when it comes to increasing the military budget. Right. But you can't be bipartisan for universal health care. You know, you got Republican led states in this country who won't pay for who won't use tax dollars to pay for a free lunch and free breakfast. Students are, you know, going to bed hungry, coming to school that all of that kind of stuff is wrong.
Starting point is 00:16:33 So to energize, do the thing that will energize people to come and cancel all student debt, not just some. I mean, I think it's an absolute lie. If he can cancel some, he can cancel all. And in particular, what's happening in the Gaza, you know, over like 60 percent of Democrats like his voters believe that there is genocide going on in the Gaza. But yet this president won't move on that. He won't say that enough is enough. Almost 40,000 people have died. We talk about the people who's still alive and living in famine hospitals being blown up they can't get food younger people especially are saying not on our watch are we going to continue to allow this so i think if this president pivots stronger more strongly not just words and deeds to say that you know this genocide stuff got it in people will be more energized cancel all student debt student debt. Make it a universal.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Those are the kinds of things. Increase the minimum wage. You don't think it's too late to pivot on Gaza? And the reason I say that is because 30,000 people are dead. Yeah, no, I'm not saying. I have met some people. I was in Dearborn, Michigan. I was with Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib. We was on a program together.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Well, a panel. Not a panel, but a rally kind of thing together. And I've talked to some people and not just arab americans not just palestinians but i've talked to people from all walks of life who are united in what justice looks like who say that they're not voting for biden under any circumstance so because of the people who are already dead and because of the suffering that is going on but there may be a certain segment of people so we're never going to forget that those people are dead but there may be a certain segment of people who if he's if he strongly says no more money then they may say we'll go ahead and
Starting point is 00:18:16 give you another chance because trump is a neo-fascist he is dangerous and i often say neo-fascism kills you quick and neoliberalism kills you slow like we might have 24 hours of oxygen left we can collaborate try to figure out how to live but ultimately if neoliberals don't switch course we we still are going to die and that is the problem with america right now if we could afford to send billions of dollars to the ukraine billions of dollars over to israel be in wars and disrupting other people's lives all around the world. Why can't we have universal health care? I agree. Why can't we have free college or debt free college, especially for public schools? Why can't we pass the Pro Act? Why can't we pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act?
Starting point is 00:18:57 What happened to the George Floyd Justice Act? What happened to all of those things? So they are so fixated on war and they are denying what we need domestically. So if he doesn't do those things, I predict this and I'm not the only one. If President Biden does not switch course, he is going to lose. I think he's going to switch course. You know, I think he's going to switch course to, you know, you said something that's true. Trump has a lot of his people motivated, energized. Yeah, but he doesn't have the whole Republican Party energized. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Right. And when you see, you know, people that were backing Nikki Haley now backing President Biden, like a lot of the donors, I think Biden will start courting those people who may not be comfortable. All those Republicans that may not be comfortable with Trump, republicans that wanted a nikki haley or something else i think he's gonna start paying more attention to them he will and he'll leave the the progressive and the base behind but he won't win that way don't forget trump you know by the margins in michigan in 2016 it was 10 000 vote this is gonna be a margin election there's a difference between what happens in the primary and what's gonna happen in the general and the largest voting block will bec that says, I am going to stay home. In Wisconsin, for example, Biden only won that state by about
Starting point is 00:20:11 20,000 votes. So the margins are going to make a difference. But you're right. He's going to court those folks. But oftentimes when people go, they don't want the faux conservative. They go for the real thing. And so ultimately, why am I go for the real thing and so ultimately why i'm going for the fake when i can have the real those voters he made court that he's going to disrupt the coalition and the coalition is just not going to show up and that's what i love about the uncommit vote they ain't playing they letting them know state after state that hey we not playing with you if you don't change course on genocide we just not coming out
Starting point is 00:20:45 we're not gonna vote for you and that's real and i wish the black community would get a clue and and do some of that like make some demands and say hey if you don't serve our people you just not getting our vote you know senator turner like you know i've said numerous times i don't know what to tell people when people tell me they don't care about either candidate when people tell me they're not even energized by the political process i get it for all of the things that we're talking about right now but what would you say to people that don't plan on voting this year because they don't like either candidate look you might not do politics but politics gonna do you you're gonna get done you're gonna get done the system gonna do you so you still got to go out to vote i would say go
Starting point is 00:21:22 vote mad as hell if you want to skip that part of the ballot because there are other people on the ballot like all the energy goes to the presidential but for example in ohio we had a health and human services levy on the ballot so i went in the primary to vote not so much for what's happening in the presidential race but there were judges on the ballot uh people running for other offices on the ballot, and then the health and human Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy.
Starting point is 00:21:58 There's 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tried my country.
Starting point is 00:22:14 My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh, my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets.
Starting point is 00:22:28 We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a
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Starting point is 00:23:50 So y'all, this is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nemany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nemany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records because in order to make history you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey what's up this is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher. That's right we're going to discuss social issues especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies.
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Starting point is 00:25:46 LGBTQIA+, you name it. If you stand with us, then we stand with you. Let's discuss the stories and conduct the interviews that will help us create a more empathetic, accountable and equitable America. You are all our brothers and sisters, and we're inviting you to join us for Civic Cipher each and every Saturday with myself, Ramses Jha, Q Ward, and some of the greatest minds in America. Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered.
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Starting point is 00:26:52 Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The services levy. That is the case for every community in this country. So they need to go vote and vote mad as hell. I can't tell. This president needs to change course and not just in words, but in deeds. And when they up there hedging about 40,000 people dead. See, now you're dead wrong. I mean, I mean, that's it. At a certain point, you've got to say this.
Starting point is 00:27:27 The math ain't math in here. To quote Andrew Yang, people have died and you can't cover it up. What you can say to any allies that are not on our watch. We got laws in this country, the Leahy Law, the Foreign Assistance Act, all of that that says that when a president has made aware that another nation is denying humanitarian aid to others yeah that we must stop supplying them so you can't drop bombs and bread at the same time those two things don't go together so char i would say to those people they got to go vote anyway now i ain't gonna tell them how to vote they got to vote their conscience but they need to go and vote because there are other issues that impact their community on that ballot other than who's running for president and then just like honestly speaking uh nina before i got here
Starting point is 00:28:14 i wasn't into politics at all like i it was like a lot for me and i just was like man i'm just not into that world i don't even want to, you know. But I have a son. I have an 11-year-old. And the world today, just this, look at the world, just the country, this country today, him growing up in it. I don't want him to face certain things because it just looks like it's all going to shit. You know what I'm saying? So when I got here, and the reason, let me backtrack, the reason that I wasn't into it because I wasn't seeing a lot of us that was appealing enough like to make us get into it what appeals to you what what did you want to hear him you know i look up to him a lot yeah you know so and then tez you know and
Starting point is 00:28:58 then killer mike came here yeah and then now you and then he brings he brings a lot of us up here to talk about it and now that my ears are open I'm sitting here I'm like damn this ain't really that hard it's about and it does require research it does require active listening too because you can listen to something you can hear something but
Starting point is 00:29:18 you're not listening to it and you don't want to receive it but I'm here every day now so it's like I learned a little bit about a lot of different stuff every day and it's like damn and I struggle with this all the time how can I make because I know if I'm if I was thinking like that I know a lot of oh absolutely other you know other others are thinking like that I'm like how can I appeal to my generation and those younger yeah to get off the couch you know because that's what he say is yeah it's people I was one
Starting point is 00:29:45 of them you know and I wasn't ashamed of it but now it's like damn yeah why would I not you know especially if I see people like you and you know my brother and like it makes me want to you know delve into it more but that was my problem you know what i mean but i just want to know how i can grasp us like more of us because a lot i have a big platform a lot of people listen to me and just just turned 32 so that's the audience that they should be trying to get that is my son's generation just it's doing what you're doing right now it's what you're saying i wasn't really into this but i'm into this now and continuously telling the story it's your son it's your daughter that is on the way yeah we do things ultimately for selfish reasons but those selfish reasons
Starting point is 00:30:30 could be altruistic in other words they could be for a higher cause and so there's nothing wrong with saying i want this world to be a better place because of mine yeah and that is one of the reasons why i'm out there fighting so hard what happens happens over there happens over here. So we can't have people living in famine. We can't allow nations just to rise up and try to eradicate other people because what happens over there happens over here. You know why they don't give a damn about what's happening in Gaza? Because they don't care what's happening in New York
Starting point is 00:30:56 City. They don't care about the homelessness here or in Cleveland. You know why they don't give a damn about starving kids over there in Gaza or Haiti or the Congo or famine and all of that? Because there are people here homelessness has increased over the last two years in this country 60 percent of Americans say they're living paycheck to paycheck what happens over there is a reflection of what happens over here and so we got to say to people that we are connected again if you don't you don't do politics, politics is going to do you.
Starting point is 00:31:25 And it does matter who is in these offices. And we need to hold people accountable. We need to make a demand. And there needs to be a consequence for that demand. I know in my mama's house, you know, my mama's not here anymore. And Charlamagne definitely knows this story. And so does Dada. She died when she was 42.
Starting point is 00:31:39 She had a brain aneurysm. And that just shook my whole life. I am here by the grace of an almighty God. But in my mama's house, and my dad is still here rocking it, playing full court basketball. brain aneurysm and that just shook my whole life i i am here by the grace of an almighty god but in my mama's house and my dad is still here rocking it playing full court basketball at 75 shout out to you daddy this is the thing though when my mama said do something my mother was the custodial parent you know my parents were married but she was custodial hey my mama you got to do what mama say yeah there will be a consequence if you don't pop out you got to do what daddy says or there will be a consequence we as voters both black voters and other voters
Starting point is 00:32:11 of consciousness we need to bind together and say you are going to do for us or there will be a consequence to it let me give you an example east palestine ohio poor whites voted over 70 for donald j trump dumb people been poisoned by a railroad company norfolk southern train derailed chemicals all up in they water they air everything it took biden a year you would show up to go to show up so again what happens over there in east palestine happens in cleveland ohio happens in in any of the boroughs here happens in chicago so that's why we gotta care there's a connection there's an intersection and policy is about power we gotta follow the policy show me the policy and I'll tell you what you care about.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Follow the money and I'll show you what you care about. If you can constantly increase the military budget when they can't even pass an audit, but they keep getting more and more money by Democrats and Republicans, you mean to tell me in a hegemonic nation we can't have universal health care so people don't go bankrupt? It just makes no sense. So just I say tell your story and then accent that story accentuate that story because that's what's gonna move younger people to come out the boat yeah yeah there what they saying in the gym man when you training people what what are they talking about when it comes
Starting point is 00:33:35 he don't allow us to talk y'all we talking he give you more work i like talking to people like Derek. I like talking to the barbers. That's why I love doing morning radio because we get to talk to everyday working class people all the time. Right, right. I mean, I get personal with my clients. So that's another reason why some people gravitate towards me because, you know, I ask my day doing how your family doing how mom and you know because it's not all about hey come in here do this let me get five sets you know people sometimes don't want to hear that you know they want to you know boom talk to
Starting point is 00:34:14 you be direct you don't need it but uh you talk too much shout out to extreme compound the gym i'm based out of in cleveland ohio and shout out to my man uh black on alkaline water drip it's that thing it's called drip drip okay sir yes sir drip how how often do you take breaks in between working up like do you usually do this like an all- thing? Yeah. Well, so I started kicking your ass right now to keep still. We want to get up and dance right now. We can do some jumping jacks. Yeah, I know. This time, y'all be moving.
Starting point is 00:34:52 You cannot miss that. Yeah, I know. I know. I'm bad with that. So, yeah, I'm bad with that. I start at 445, 5 a.m. Jesus. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And then take a break. We used to start at 4 a.m. Yeah. You're used to. Okay. Used to. She gonna snitch on you you're used to. Okay, used to. Every chance she gets. So then I take a break like 2 o'clock, come back at 4
Starting point is 00:35:10 and go like 7, 7.30. Damn, you got more hours. Yeah, I know. And that's the missus right here while he's shouting out folks. Okay. Don't do me like that. I'm sorry, but no, you're going to try to play me. Don't do me like that don't do me like that
Starting point is 00:35:25 this is wifey back here love her nurse she a nurse she doing the time traveling nurse can we talk about why banning TikTok is such a priority to the government don't even get me started they playing games don't play in our face
Starting point is 00:35:40 if it truly is about protecting our data and our privacy which is important you can do that comprehensively i don't want tiktok to have my data just as well as i don't want uh twitter or instagram or any of them so do it in a comprehensive way but don't play games with china like this don't do it so they they they it's just it's just a ruse they just plan with tiktok and and do it all for all of them that's what i'm saying and so it's just a ruse. They just playing with TikTok. And do it for all of them. That's what I'm saying. And so it's just much to do about nothing if they're not going to do it the right way.
Starting point is 00:36:10 And I don't want people to get fooled by the banana in the tailpipe. This is a banana in the tailpipe. Protect our data. Regulate social media companies. Break some of them up. So if you're going to protect us, protect us. But don't use, they're just using TikTok as a ruse. And it's wrong.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Yeah. And we should care about because data is like the new platinum. Data is the new goal. I think it was Andrew Yang who mentioned that some of these companies need to give us checks because they're getting our data. Once you have data, baby, you that's power. So the federal government is obligated to protect us in that way but do it in a comp we need a comprehensive data protection bill that actually passes the congress signed by the president that regulates all data companies what they can do and what they cannot do
Starting point is 00:36:59 and it protects our privacy because cyber warfare is real so i'm not saying it's not real but the way that they're doing and just singling out tiktok and quite frankly we know that tiktok is where most younger people get their information that's the spot yeah i just got a couple more questions i know derrick want to go do some pull-ups but yeah y'all gonna get up off me man Relax, relax. I'm trying to be cool. You know what I mean? I'm trying to be cool, man. But you said President Biden needed to pivot. Is it too late for the Vice President to pivot? Oh, Char, why are you walking me into this trap?
Starting point is 00:37:36 No, I won't say it's too late. I really do believe hope springs eternal, but it has to be more than rhetoric. People are hip to it and they tired and they suffering too much to just listen to people whisper sweet nothings black faces and high places does nothing for my people children in my city you know cleveland is one of the poorest cities in the nation i'm just using cleveland as an example that don't you sitting up there on the edmund peddis bridge talking that lord let me back up um It's important to be on the Edmund Pettus Bridge. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Symbols matter. The substance matters more. So, Char, no, it's never too late. But come on, use the power. One of the things, the Republicans are bold. Now, I don't agree with most of the things they do, but they bold as a mofo. When they get the power, they do it. They don't want to hear none of these.
Starting point is 00:38:23 No, we doing it. And then I double dog dare you to stop us through the courts or whatever but we're gonna do it we need the democratic party that enjoys almost 100 of the black vote to get to doing the thing for black people and stop all this symbolic stuff instead of walking i mean walking the edmund peders bridge i'm a historian beautiful thing but instead of walking that bridge i would want you to try to close the racial wealth gap in this country. Instead of doing that, why don't you pass baby bonds in the Congress so that every baby is given a certain amount of money from birth? So that by the time they grow up, they got a foundation.
Starting point is 00:38:57 And Dr. Derek Hamilton of the New School, the Institute on Race, Power, and Political Economy. That was his idea. And you both may remember when Senator Cory Booker was pushing that into Congress. That's from Dr. Derek Hamilton. He's a stratification economist. One of the reasons why I'm here is because I'm a senior fellow at the New School. But those are the kinds of substantive things that people like Vice President Harris, people like President Biden, and others should be doing now the vice president serves at the at the pleasure of the president so i want to put that
Starting point is 00:39:31 out there for our listeners i get it in some cases she has to do his will i got that but baby you can slide up you can roll up sometimes in other ways and do some things and say some things to make people take notice so no it's not too late sharp but damn it is getting there the oxygen is running out man it feels like that it feels like and you say she can do his will but man i just feel like there's certain things that she could do that she could do that he can't do there's certain things that she can speak i agree people she can speak to that yeah and just say i apologize instead of asking for permission and the reason why i wanted to make because a vice
Starting point is 00:40:06 president is selected by the person at the top of the ticket and you have to do their bidding for the most part but there are ways to get around that and just hell I just ask for forgiveness hey I'm sorry I had to say this what he gonna do kick y'all no he gonna kick y'all just say I'm sorry I had
Starting point is 00:40:22 to do this that's right Nina I'm sure that you'll be up here quite a few more times before oh i love you so much it's so good to be here can i shout out a book i'm gonna say it's called wake up america black women on the future of democracy dr keisha baines edited that book and 22 spectacular black women have written essays in that book i am one of those spectacular black women okay and so i want people to get that book wake up it is a blueprint for action what's it called wake up america black women on the future of democracy because you know we feel the pain first and deepest because we cross all kinds of intersections and baby when black women tell you it's wrong it's wrong that's right
Starting point is 00:41:01 for the most part but i love my black men though i mean we ain't gonna play them games i hate when the democratic party try to separate black women from black men i hate how they're trying to set it up to where if trump wins it's black men's fault oh hell no let me give you oh you know what i'm glad one more thing dr derrick hamlin we're talking about this um and people need to look this up in the race between andrew gillum and desantis black women slipped 18 of them voted in that race the man lost by less than a percentage and when you look at the black turnout black men rocked for andrew gillum in florida and black women who's slipping so sisters okay we don't get it right all the time andrew gillum could have been the governor of florida and black women slipped up on them so no but seriously don't blame black people
Starting point is 00:41:52 for this why we gotta keep saving folks and black men have been emasculated in the democratic party that's real they don't see themselves because to lift up black women is beautiful we should but not at the expense of black men we have achieved what we have achieved so far in this country because we are together and we can't pick up other people's bad habits now white women may be able to lead a white man by the side of the road sisters can't do that and the way that in this politics the way the democratic party the mothers of the movement and black women delivered and black women saved black men do not vote much differently than black women so don't do that if trump wins god forbid it is going to be because this president and the democratic party
Starting point is 00:42:40 did not deliver material changes for the people of this nation it is going to be because this president and the democratic party led over genocide our complicit in genocide in gaza that is going to be the reason why this man loses so he needs to choose is he going to choose his coalition or is he going to choose to allow the person who is clearly a neo-fascist to win it will be his fault we ain't blaming no voters and black people definitely ain't taking the blame Or is he going to choose to allow the person who is clearly a neo-fascist to win? It will be his fault. We ain't blaming no voters. And black people definitely ain't taking the blame.
Starting point is 00:43:11 They don't call out white women. Hell, white women vote for Trump in very high margins. And don't forget, when Obama, when President Obama was running, they were so mad that President Obama won the primary. I'm just speaking truth. So just say amen and say ouch when president obama beat then senator clinton some of the white women were so mad they voted for mccain so don't don't don't come don't bring it here don't bring it to the feet of black people we always save in this country now it's time for this country to join us and save itself amen and amen let church say amen amen ouch senator nina turner uh her trainer derrick if you see a little bit more fire in nina it's because of derrick all right
Starting point is 00:43:52 and not like that fire needed any more flame to it but damn good thank you all for coming thanks for having me shout out to jim again derrick uh extreme compound okay black owned oh absolutely state of the art Extreme Compound Y'all got to come through Ohio Come through Cleveland Cincinnati Toledo
Starting point is 00:44:13 I'll be there Tooby Come on Come through Wake that ass up In the morning The Breakfast Club Right, right. Yeah. Come on, come through, baby, come through. Wake that ass up. In the morning. The Breakfast Club.
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