The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Omarion Talks Millennium Tour, The Art Of Swooning A Woman, Love Life + More

Episode Date: February 28, 2025

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Omarion To Discuss Millennium Tour, The Art Of Swooning A Woman, Love Life. Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:02:05 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, sir. Omarion. Hey. Welcome back.
Starting point is 00:02:16 The good brother, O. Hey, hey, hey. What was the routine this morning, man? What did you do? Did you wake up, pray, meditation? What was it? Yep. A little moment to myself, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:02:24 Shower up, get fresh, say my affirmations, put on my? You know I'm saying shower up get fresh say my affirmations Put on my ooh. I mean what was your intention for today? Um? Let's just have a good time. I'm saying not a put too much on it You know I'm saying you are known as the Zen King like how do you stay so? Tranquil like so zenful through everything. Like you don't let nothing bother you, yo. I done came at you so many times. So many, like yo, you let, this man literally.
Starting point is 00:02:51 He said yeah. Let's nothing get to him. I'm trying to get to him. I'm intentional. I'm intentional. And also I don't take things personal. You know what I'm saying? The wild thing is, you know Amarion,
Starting point is 00:03:04 I just looked it up. Omari on is 40 years old. Crazy. We've been seeing him grow up. He's still. I don't know if you saw it. Omari on 40. You still got baby hair.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I'm saying he's 40. Omari on 40. I'm saying he's 40. Jesus. Yes. That's a blessing. It is. So people still look at you as a
Starting point is 00:03:23 like a young, I can't say teen, but a young 20-year-old, because that's what you look like. Yeah, well, I mean, it does confuse people sometimes. But yeah, I think I made it to unk status at this point in time. You ain't unk yet. Not with baby hair. So why is be like unk?
Starting point is 00:03:42 You can't be unk with baby hair, Lamar. No, no. Millennium tour is back? Yes, yes. Yes. I'm super excited about it. We played Barclays on the 21st, so if you ain't got your ticket, definitely pop out. It's a moment.
Starting point is 00:03:57 What keeps you doing all this? All he is, what keeps you doing this? He's still doing flips and dancing. Like, what? You twist your ankle, it's gonna take a long time to heal. No, actually, I have a routine of making sure that I stay energized. I'm a performer, so it's important
Starting point is 00:04:15 that I take care of my body. But the Millennium Tour is a series concert that has brought Nostalgic literally back on the planet. My era and my time, I'm so happy to be a part of it because it brings you back to a memory and creates a new memory at the same time. So I'm excited, yeah. We keeping it going, we keeping that energy going.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Can I ask you what 40 felt like? I remember how I felt when I turned 40. Where were you, what were you doing, how did it feel? To me it felt like I really entered a new dimension when I turned 40. Yeah, so I usually don't do anything for myself and shout out to Janine who helped me put together my birthday party, but I had a birthday party in Malibu
Starting point is 00:04:59 and it was such an amazing gathering. All of my friends came out, my family. So I did something for myself, which was throw a party. It was a lot of beautiful people in the building. So that's what I did for my birthday. Did you feel like yourself going into a different level of consciousness? For sure.
Starting point is 00:05:17 A different level of maturity, a certain level expectation for myself, the things that I'm creating now. Why am I still doing it? I definitely feel like I've arrived because I'm one of the few entertainers that has grown up in the public eye. So growing up has been a challenge at some times in my career, you know what I mean? So I finally feel like I've arrived to that place where I
Starting point is 00:05:44 can have a say so, and people understand it and respect it. Now how do y'all figure out who closes the Millennium Tour? Like, who closes that show? You got so many artists on it, and you're one of the originators on that tour, so who closes the Millennium Tour? Well, it is a co-headline, you know, myself, Trey and Bao.
Starting point is 00:06:04 So it's kinda meant to be like a festival vibe. Any real performer artist will tell you sometimes it's not best to close the show because the energy is drained. You kinda wanna go maybe second to last. So for me, yeah, I don't really trip off of that. But yeah, that's how we decide between us and the promoters.
Starting point is 00:06:25 So how do you headline? So is it like you do two, then you jump in due two, then Trey jumps in due two, then? Exactly. Yeah, maybe Trey will close and then me and Bow will swap in between him going last before Trey or me going last before Trey. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:40 So I know before the Millennium Tour it was B2K. Why not B2K this run? Well this one was kind of more so framed for this class. If you look at who's on there now, it's a lot of non-Millennium artists. You know what I'm saying? I think it's so cool that Boosie is gonna be on there you know I mean he applies I think we're gonna get some special guests as well
Starting point is 00:07:09 yeah Bobby V, Pleasure P, the whole vibe so it's kind of I would say a little bit different than you know like the previous years so yeah that's that's how so are we getting all the O? like the yeah we getting the classics no skip for me's happening. So are we getting all the O? Like the, Yeah, we getting the classics. Because that whole album is no skip for me. We getting the classics. So we getting that, okay.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Yeah, we getting the classics. It's actually my 20th year anniversary of putting in being a solo artist. Damn. That too. Are we getting that O? That's crazy. Time is flying.
Starting point is 00:07:39 That is wild. Time is flying. Yeah, so yeah, we getting the classics and also I'll be introducing some new music. You know what I mean? I got some new music, some new slaps I'm gonna be performing as well. You said something that was interesting.
Starting point is 00:07:50 You said growing up for you was a challenge. Why was growing up a challenge? Did you mean personally or professionally? Both, all, just because when you're young and people see you're young and you don't change much, you know what I mean, like physically. Cause I take care of myself. People tend to just put you where they thought that you were, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:08:13 So yeah, it's been a challenge in that way. And then also in business, you know, just really being able to like have a say so and then not just be like, okay, well you're a kid. You know what I mean? Any child stars will tell you, having a foot in control in their business is a struggle when you start young.
Starting point is 00:08:32 When did that change? Like when did people start saying, okay, this is Omari on the grown man, not the kid from BTK? I think once I really started taking full responsibility for my independence, trying different things. I think that when you're in the industry for a long time, it is peaks and valleys.
Starting point is 00:08:49 You're not gonna have 10 hot moments, you know what I'm saying, you might have a down moment, you might have a transitional moment. I think that it's okay when you're finding your way. And I feel like after my last couple of projects, just supporting myself, being independent, I started to feel like, OK, now I have control of my career. Oh, I want to put this out.
Starting point is 00:09:13 OK, maybe I should put it out this way. Maybe I should do things differently. I grew into that. So I'm very proud of that, because a lot of artists don't get the chance to do that. That's true. And nobody talks about that, right? Nobody talks about when you're red hot
Starting point is 00:09:28 and there's an icebox where your career used to be. You know what I mean? Like, seriously. I mean, I don't feel like you ever been through that because you're always on the road. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and I've been gifted with the talent to be able to do many things.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Two years ago, I believe the last time we spoke you know I was promoting my book so there's always something for me to do something new that I just did that's really exciting is a show called the wild rose with all black so I'm gonna be you know hitting your TVs in two two thousand twenty six I play an assassin so it's something different oh yeah I'm doing fighting scenes I'm sockin and poppin wow so you will be in 2026, I play an assassin, so it's something different. Oh, first of all. Yeah, I'm doing fighting scenes, I'm socking and popping.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Wow. So you will be seeing me in a whole new. The Zen King is now an assassin. I mean, you know, I'm acting. Exactly. Right. But you know, the real true measure of an actor is to tell the truth, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:10:19 So, get to show a different side of myself. I'm excited about that. I feel like that's a natural transition for all you flexible guys. You, Chris Brown, Chris, like y'all should be doing action movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, whoop an ass. That's a part of it. And I got a different respect for you now, right?
Starting point is 00:10:28 And I'll tell you why. So my daughter's dance, right? Uh-huh. And the amount of, I would say, pressure they have when they dance, but also the amount of time it takes to practice. Yeah. Like, I never thought about it.
Starting point is 00:10:36 And then when they go to these competitions, they're dancing every day. They do ballet, hip hop, they're dancing every day. They're dancing every day. They're dancing every day. They're dancing every day. They're dancing every day. They're dancing every day.
Starting point is 00:10:44 They're dancing every day. They're dancing every day. They're dancing every day. They're dancing every day. They're dancing every day. say pressure they have when they dance, but also the amount of time it takes to practice. Like I never thought about it, and then when they go to these competitions, they dancing everyday. They do ballet, hip hop, jazz, whatever it takes. And I'm like, Jesus Christ, the fact that Omarion has to do that and sing, and not worry about, and not lose breath, and remember the steps.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Growing up, how often did you dance? Every day, every day, every day. That was like a big part of You know my existence in my career dancing in second nature and and the singing part too, you know the breath You know really, you know being able to know like okay. This is a live performance. Maybe I shouldn't do the routine right here I've definitely have grown in that space even even boys, I don't see too many boys, young boys or men dancing. You see, for every 1,000 girls, you see two boys.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Yeah. Because I guess it's a thing. A new boy wants to dance, but... It's crazy because it's a whole language. You know, especially when it comes to women. You know, when you learn how to lead women in dance, you know how to lead them in real life. You have your children in dance?
Starting point is 00:11:47 Do you have boys dance? Oh, they dance? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, my daughter's in gymnastics. My son, he more so like, he's a little too cool for it. I was the same way early on, but yeah, he still can dance. So that's how you be seducing women?
Starting point is 00:11:59 You be like, let me show you some moves. You know, that's what you do. No, I start at the mind first. I start with the mind first and then I get into dance moves. When did you first start learning to dance? I had my first dance recital at either three or five. Wow. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:19 And it was tap dance. So I've been dancing my whole life. So they always knew that you was going to be an entertainer. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, very much so. With the dance world so big, you never thought about doing something in dance,
Starting point is 00:12:28 like you know how they have America's Got Talent, and all these different challenges, and all these different shows. You never thought about creating your own because you're one of hip hop's dancers. Yeah, no, I definitely wanna do it. And especially seeing old girl at the Olympics and what people thought hip hop, break dancing was.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Right, right, right. Damn, I was mad at that. Yeah. I was mad at that. Yeah, I was mad at that But um yeah, I definitely I want to open up some dance studios I believe I've been talking about it for years But just you know really waiting for the opportunity to create a creative space for kids because that's how I grew up You know I went to the boys and girls club. It was always stuff to do you know um so I definitely gonna do either a TV
Starting point is 00:13:03 Show or open up a facility for sure. For sure. Now going back to Wild Rose, right? Cause you also executive, like you producing that too. What was the process of like getting into that role? Cause I mean, cause playing an assassin, that just don't come naturally or have you killed niggas before.
Starting point is 00:13:21 You know, I don't know. You know, what was that process like? So that process was deep, you know. I definitely had an assistance with my acting coach and I really started diving into who is this person, who is Rose, you know. He has 27 bodies, so he does have a lot of psychological and emotional issues and how it pertained to this particular scene.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Or at one point in time, we reveal that my family is no longer with me. That's something that brings him anxiety. He's actually a righteous kill. Sometimes he gets in trouble with his agency, which is called Civil. By the way, Vanessa E. Williams plays my mom. And I also wanna talk about my boy,
Starting point is 00:14:15 yeah, Alan Payne. My boy Alan Payne plays my father, you know, in it. So I'm surrounded by great, incredible actors. But yeah, I did my due diligence. And also I really wanted to bring the character to life I'm surrounded by great, incredible actors. But yeah, I did my due diligence. And also I really wanted to bring the character to life because he struggles with, I think, a lot of things that a lot of men go through. And that is wanting to have a foundational relationship
Starting point is 00:14:39 with their family, you know what I mean? It's obviously tumultuous because I'm an assassin. But I show that journey, I end up bodyguarding for this very famous singer named Samaya. Shout out to KC Gardner, a new actress that's gonna be on the scene. And shout out to Deji Libre, but it's gonna be something to watch.
Starting point is 00:14:59 So look for that, All Black, 2026. That's gotta be tough though, when you are a person who practices mindfulness the way you do, to get into a person who's dealing with so much trouble. It is. How did you get out of character? I made certain ticks for the character,
Starting point is 00:15:18 and I also lend myself to it. So it was never in a negative way. There are certain scenes where I, without giving away too much of the story, there are certain scenes where I had to really dig deep beyond myself and do the research. How would I feel if I killed someone? What would I feel?
Starting point is 00:15:44 And because I've stitched out the character so well, I'm able to kind of say, okay, this is the difference between me and him. Now I can take him off and I can be myself. So little stuff like that, my wardrobe, the way I looked, I looked differently. Do you have boundaries as far as how far you'll go as an actor, like how deep you'll go as an actor like how far you how deep you'll go
Starting point is 00:16:05 Um, I haven't found any yet. I haven't found any I think the only Maybe challenge would be like cutting my hair Yeah, because you know, my hair is is sacred to me is something that is spiritual for me to my spiritual antennas So that's like I went out for a bunch of different roles. Actually, I went out for a Sammy Davis Jr. role. Oh, you had to cut your head for that. That was a conversation, that was a conversation, that was a tough one.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Just because I feel like to a degree, you don't wanna lose yourself in certain characters. You playing a character for three months, it really does become who you are. So I'm very mindful that that's probably my only challenge. But there's wigs, there's wigs. You know, there's- I don't think you can put all that under a wig.
Starting point is 00:16:55 That's a lot of things. No, you can. You can wrap this thing up. Well, yeah. And you feel me pat it down. There's some real professionals in this game, trust me. Yo, that's interesting, man, cause I wonder what's more important nowadays,
Starting point is 00:17:06 your personal or your professional, because it's only, like you said, it's only three months. Yeah. But then I gotta live the rest of my life, and I'm the one that gotta deal with this. Exactly. Is it worth it? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I think for some people it depends on the check, and for a person like me, I think it depends on the story. It depends on where I am, and if I really do feel like it is my duty as an actor to tell this story. So I think it's some factors, you know what I mean? But I'm very connected with myself spiritually, and my hair is an identity for myself.
Starting point is 00:17:44 What's the spiritual connection with your hair? Just your antennas. I think when you see people that grow hair, that it takes time. Anytime you see any elders that have long hair, you respect them automatically because it's a process. And also I come from a hair family,
Starting point is 00:18:00 so having healthy hair has always been just mandatory. So you look down on bald people. Nah. I was gonna say, come on. No, no, no, no, no. I was just saying I have no intent. No, no, no, no. Don't intent on them.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Because I am phallically challenged, so don't do none of this. Wow. Don't do me like this. Come on. No, no, no. That's why it's bald people. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:18:19 There it is. No, actually, there's certain bald people you just don't wanna mess with. You know what I'm saying? So, disrespect. Now, I wanted to get into R&B music. What's your thoughts on R&B music now, right? Growing up, there was always R&B groups, right?
Starting point is 00:18:32 Whether it was White or Black, whether it's New Edition or Pretty Ricky or B2K, or whoever it may be, Boyz II Men, you don't see that now. Why is that and why do you think that is? And what's your thoughts on R&B music today? I think that R&B music is an ever evolving, changing, just like all genres of music, country coming back.
Starting point is 00:18:56 I feel like it goes through a type of evolution. I think R&B is definitely rearing its head back in the sentimental and expressive way that we talk about our emotions. That's why I love R&B. I love R&B because there was this sentiment that if it was your icebox representing your heart, these metaphors that kind of allow men
Starting point is 00:19:22 to express themselves. So I feel like it's in a dope state like one of my favorite songs out right now is Mutt by Leon Dries. So it's like when people like him and you know some other new artists that you know have really put the time in to express their emotion I feel like it's going back. I was talking specifically groups. You don't see that anymore. Do you think people don't wanna put the time and energy and effort into it anymore? They wanna a quick turnaround?
Starting point is 00:19:49 No, I think that's a factor. And I also feel like, I don't know if there's, I haven't seen a lot of people band together outside of hip hop and gangs. You know what I'm saying? I'm pretty sure there's some out there, but not at the forefront yet. And I feel like that time, maybe within a year or two,
Starting point is 00:20:12 we'll probably see some really dope groups. But it's just like, I think everybody also too have the expectation that at some point in time, they'll break up. So I think that there is a brotherhood, a type of brotherhood you have to kind of display. And that does take a lot of time, right? I mean like even like, because what you can do solo, it would take what, ten times longer to do it with a group? Because that's like one band, one sound, y'all have to get on one
Starting point is 00:20:36 accord, all be aligned, harmonize, you know all of that. So that did, it took a lot of time with making music with B2K as opposed to doing it yourself. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Can you have a great group, or maybe even a great R&B singer without artist development? I feel like that's what's missing from the game.
Starting point is 00:20:53 That is missing from the game. Yeah, and I will say that is the reason why, for us, when I was in the group, that we had the run that we had, because we spent so much time together. We had one common goal. We were focused on one thing and it's so hard after success to kinda keep that path.
Starting point is 00:21:11 So it is a little bit more difficult unless it's like family, but even family, you know? Family fight too, you know what I mean? So yeah, I think it is about developing something. And I would love to do that in the future. If I ever had an opportunity to bring a group to the forefront, you know what I mean? I feel like that's what's missing too.
Starting point is 00:21:31 It's just like having elders, having people that have gone through certain experiences. It's like, some of the YNs, they don't have big homies. They don't have people that could be like, I'm going through this. What do you think? I can't wait for the game to get back to that place. And also, you know, when we, Jagged Edge was here,
Starting point is 00:21:50 they were talking about people don't sing to the vagina anymore. Yeah. Yeah. Like they don't ask, they don't beg. Why you looking at me like that? Because you talking, dog. This guy crazy, yo. Such a mean one, man. They don't, yo. Such a mean woman. They don't beg anymore.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Yeah, the vagina has changed. Has it? Yeah. You can get made now. Gotta make sure they're not genetically modified. Yeah, the vagina has changed. I thought the vagina was the same. What do you mean it's changed? It definitely changed.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Yeah, I feel like, you know, there's this thing called soft girl era, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just, I feel like it's so materialistic, you know what I mean? In order to really, you know, swoon a woman, you have to really find a particular type and you have to appeal to her differently than you maybe had to appeal to her, generally speaking, back in the day. So I would say it's different how you can wake up
Starting point is 00:22:53 those senses, it depends on the woman. Because some women will not be turned on by a nice guy. Some women get turned on by assholes and people who are disrespectful and call them out their names. Some women are really just into that, you know what I mean? Some women, you know, vagina, only get wet with money, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:23:15 So yeah, I think it's a little bit different and you have to be more specific if you really want to entice a woman, you know what I mean, lyrically. Doesn't that require us to vibrate higher though? And what I mean by that is like, if a woman is only used to eating fast food, but she out the country and she eat a real fruit,
Starting point is 00:23:34 and you're like, damn, I ain't no- Mango in Jamaica. You know what I'm saying? So don't that require us to vibrate higher? I agree, I agree. That's the tip I'm on, you know what I mean? Outside of being mature and having my experiences, really just being able to have a good conversation,
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Starting point is 00:28:25 you don't need much. You just need conversation and great questions, you know what I'm saying, and nice ambiance. So yeah, from my first gatherings, I asked very serious questions. You know, like, what is your purpose in life? You know what I mean? What is your intention with this dick?
Starting point is 00:28:44 I'm sorry. Ashton Paul. Damn. You just going to jump straight out there. What you going to do to it baby? That's not a gathering. That's a great question. Do you know what you're doing baby? Do you have enough experience? But yeah, questions like that. But I think you set the tone because they see you, O. So they see you on Instagram, they see how you've grown and evolved, they see what you're on. So they feel like they gotta be there too, I would think.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I definitely have my own personal challenges as well because again, you know, we are a vibration of people, you know what I mean? So sometimes things can look good on the outside, but then once you really get into it, you're like, oh, there's some things you have to fix that I can't help you with. You know what I mean? So I always give myself room.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I say that my timeline is like two years. I give myself two years with the person to really figure out if I'm gonna continue with them. You know what I mean? I gotta see their family, I gotta see their best friends. And we actually have to go through something to see if you can be in my life. Have you ever been turned off by a woman's trauma?
Starting point is 00:29:56 Because you can't be a person's healer. Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure. I think particularly women that drink, that over drink. You know what I mean? It's really hard because they mask it with the drink, you know, in a good time. You're never able to over drink. You know what I mean? It's really hard because they mask it with the drink in a good time. You're never able to really see, you know what I mean? So fasting is a part of being with me too.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Has that ever been too much for a woman? Has a woman ever said, look, man, I like you, but I'm not with all of this my little stuff that you are? No, no, no, I don't really run into that issue. And I don't frame it in the way, I don't frame it in the way. It's just more so like, yo, let's be healthy. Like be healthy like I'm about to go on a fast you want to join You know, I mean, it's no pressure. So what does the love look love life look like for all today? I mean to be fair, you know
Starting point is 00:30:36 I have two beautiful and amazing kids and you know any parent will tell you once you have kids There's the love level is just Astronomical when you have kids, you know, they love you, they don't care what you did yesterday and today. So I'm just chilling right now. I'm first generation of wealth builder, so I'm still focusing on continuing my legacy and building for them.
Starting point is 00:31:01 I have a friend or two, but it what I mean? But it's nothing serious. Okay, cool. Now we've seen your love life play out on TV a little bit. Yeah. Would you ever do that again? Have your love life? No. Never. Never.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Not again, not ever? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, nah. It hurts you or help you? I think a little bit of both. Yeah, I think in order to really transform as a man, it had to be a little painful. In order for you to change and be like, oh, I want to go through that again. Yeah But yeah, I love love and I'm definitely not a person that's like so hurt that I can't open myself up to it
Starting point is 00:31:36 So is everything better with you and the mother of your children? Yeah. Yeah, we're in a better place We're in a way better place. I mean, you know, Meg is 10, my daughter She'll be 9 March 7th. So, you know, they're getting older. So, you know time and time really Help helps things. So yeah, we're in a better place. Have you ever how do you avoid trauma bonds? I asked questions. You know, I ask questions and I think that that is what you know gives me the foresight to know like okay this person is on that level you know I mean to make sure that I'm not and also I check in with myself you know I mean and I'll make sure that you know I'm dealing with whatever
Starting point is 00:32:20 personal issues I handle it. So that's how I work out. Now you know I got an action. It's not saying a TikTok go viral where, I was about to say B. Simone. Raven Simone had said she was pregnant by you a long time ago, like in the younger days. When the hell would that happen? So this is, you know, the internet is a wild place. So if you look at the regular, the normal interview, the regular interview
Starting point is 00:32:46 that they did, someone edited it and they had her saying that because what happened was she was saying on set that you know they have this certain level of expectation and people thought that she was pregnant with my child. Oh she was with Kay Young. Okay so they cut it. Yes. I edited it. I got you, I got you. Yeah, so she didn't actually say that. Okay. Yeah, she didn't say we. Were y'all ever messing around? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:33:09 For somebody that was all speculation and everything like that? I never been in a room butt naked with her, you know what I mean? Right, okay. Yeah, but we did live in the same apartment complex when we were younger. There was this complex back in the day.
Starting point is 00:33:21 All of the entertainer kids stayed there, so. Yeah. Really? Yeah. It was like a complexer kids stayed there. Yeah. Really? Yeah. It was like a complex with all, like. Yeah, I mean everybody that was making money. Really? Yeah, everybody lived there.
Starting point is 00:33:31 30W lived there, Raven-Symon, a bunch of actors. Yeah, just a whole bunch of people who was in Studio City. That's like a TV show. Yeah, I was ready to say that's what's up. Before the TV show. Yeah. Yeah, it was pretty good fun going to the gym and seeing whoever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Like, oh, OK, you're working out today. At what time you was applying a little bit of pressure on Nia Long? I can't blame you for that, my brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a little. I saw her this weekend. I didn't see her present, but I saw her on Instagram
Starting point is 00:33:58 at Floyd Mayweather party. Oh my god. She's beautiful. She's beautiful. I would love to work with her. I would. I would. I'd love to work with her. I would love to. I would. I'd love to teach her how to dance.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I would love to work with her. Have you ever really shot your shot? No, actually after that moment, we were at like a party and she was occupied. So yeah, no, I didn't get the chance to look at her in her eye. We're both Scorpio, so I'm not sure what the energy would be like, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:27 But once y'all catch that eye contact, it's over. Yeah, no, she's a beautiful woman. And then, you know, also, I don't know how young her son is, but I don't know how young she goes. I don't know how exciting she wants her life to be. That's Nia Long. You know, she's a sloth. He's still shooting that shot.
Starting point is 00:34:42 You hear it? I don't know how exciting she wants her life to be right now. Like 55 maybe? 51? I don't think she does. I don't know who Nia Long, you know. He's still shooting that shot, you hear that? I don't know how excited he is. I want her life to be right now. Like 55 maybe? 51? I don't think she does. I don't know who Nia Long is. I gotta go look it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I gotta look it up.
Starting point is 00:34:51 But yeah, you know, I'm not afraid to learn. What is your... You got so many lines. He got so many. He got lines for every age bracket. She 54, but yeah. 54, that's not even old. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:02 That ain't too old for you, 54? Um... Nah. Not when it's Nia Long. Not when it's not even old. That ain't too old for you, 54? Um, nah. Not when it's near long. Not when it's near long. Because I know some other 54's that you probably be like, oh Jesus. Yeah, I said my age cut off would be like 47, but a young 50, a young 55, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:20 I would definitely have a gathering or two. They all gathering. They all killing the young girls by the way. Facts. The Neal Longs, the Sinai, Leigh Beans, the Angela Bassets of the world, they killing the young girls. That's facts, that's facts. I would love to get into they mental state, you know what I mean, because they are women
Starting point is 00:35:38 that kinda stay away and they only pop out when it's time to, so I would love to have a conversation and see where their mind are. But you know they only accept in honesty. They're too old and they don't got time for the business. And that's what I love. I lead with that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:35:52 That, being a young man and leading with honesty is like a double-edged sword because some younger people are just not prepared for that. You know what I mean? But older women, they don't care. They don't care about that, so. That's why you like that Leon Thomas record. Cause he's being so honest.
Starting point is 00:36:09 He is. Have you ever had to say that to somebody just let them know straight up like, look I'm not trying to settle down. I wouldn't frame it like that, like I'm a dog, I'm a mutt, but yeah, yeah, I definitely, anytime I'm involved with a woman, I let them know, you know, I'm not a traditional man, I'm not someone who subscribes
Starting point is 00:36:30 to specific titles, you know what I'm saying? I like to create what, you know, what I wanna call whatever it is that we make, so yeah. Do you say grand rising or good morning? I say the rises grand. You feel that way? The rises grand baby. Hey yo.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Okay so what is your relationship, going back, what is your relationship now with B2K? With the rest, with the other three? Because it's not, it's technically not B2K anymore is it? I mean I always will honor you know my group, my foundation and you know where I come from. As far as personally you know we don't really have a relationship but none of them? Not really you know I will say that Boog did come to one of my shows and we chopped it up you know so there'll always be a type of love there. We grew up together and we did something in all of our lives that no one in our lives did.
Starting point is 00:37:34 So I think that there's always an honor system there. Not to speak negatively ever and just be like, yeah, that was that. Did you guys know each other before the group started or you guys were brought together as the group That's we were brought together as the group. Yeah, um the first time I met them It was at a New Year's Eve party and they performed and I performed and it was like you want to be the lead singer I was like, yeah, so So yeah, um
Starting point is 00:38:04 Yeah, and what about you and Marcus Houston are y'all clothes or no, okay. So, yeah. Yeah. And what about you and Marcus Houston? Are y'all close? No. Okay, got you. Yeah. I don't know why we thought y'all was real brothers. That was always the real thing.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Yeah, at one point, right? That was our thing, that was our thing back then. You know what I mean? Anybody that was a part of the camp was fam. You know, that's like, oh, that's my cousin. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, no real blood tie. You were one of the few people
Starting point is 00:38:23 who probably experienced real celebrity, right? Because I don't feel like there's real celebrity no more. Yeah, that's true. Everybody can be a celebrity now. That's true. Like y'all had to like run from crowds. That's facts. Be ducked off in disguise.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Yeah. How did that feel? And was it hard when you weren't feeling it anymore? Yeah, no, I felt like it was amazing. It was amazing to look back on it. There was some times where I think Boog got hurt, he got lifted up into a crowd. It was like dangerous, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:53 Because five little strong girls is stronger than the biggest man, you know what I mean? But looking back on that time and having it be a part of my experience as far as the organic energy between you and your fans was amazing. And when it changed, it changed not just for me, for everyone. I think you still have a little bit of fandom still today,
Starting point is 00:39:16 but it's viewed different. It's almost like, are you okay? Why are you screaming, are you okay? I still receive that love, no matter where I'm at on the planet, people still come up to me and be like, wow, my childhood, can I take a picture with you? So I always appreciate, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:32 the influence that I've had on people's life experience through music, through movies, through, so yeah, I don't feel no way about it. You know, I definitely feel like, you know, a sort of an elder on the scene, you know what I mean, that has had all the experiences, so. It's just different when you got the, when you were a child star.
Starting point is 00:39:51 That's what I'm saying. You got that, I guess that kid fan base, you know what I mean? They act different than everybody else. Period. And those fans are still with me to today. I'm so thankful for those fans that stuck with me because we're able to put on the Millennium Tour.
Starting point is 00:40:05 We're able to bring that nostalgia back on the planet, which by the way, before the Millennium Tour, that wasn't the show. That wasn't the set list for all of these productions. To have a little bit of nostalgia in your production is a great thing. Tell us the craziest story as a child, what Charlamagne was talking about, right?
Starting point is 00:40:26 We always hear about the Michael Jackson story, people waiting in the airport for days, weeks. What was the craziest story that you remember as a child? Things going crazy. A girl being in our room before we got there. The security would have to check the room. I always thought that was weird because nobody's supposed to be in the room. How would they?
Starting point is 00:40:48 Girl sitting in there crouching down. Soon as we walk in, we're like, oh. So it was a green room? It was a green room. And then on my personal room, one of the workers just let themselves in. And I was like half asleep. And I woke up like, what are you doing? It was a girl.
Starting point is 00:41:04 She was trying to gather. And she was like, hey. She was trying to gather with you. I was like, what are you doing? It was a girl. She was trying to gather. And she was like, hey. She was trying to gather with you. I'm like, why I'm asleep? No, what are you doing? No, you gotta go. Man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:13 So that was when it was a little scary. That's when you was a kid? Yeah. Jesus Christ. Yeah. When were you able to walk around a mall by yourself? Cause I know that was a point y'all couldn't even do stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:41:24 I don't know. I don't know. You still can't do that. I still don't. I mean, was a point y'all couldn't even do stuff like that. I don't know. I don't know. I still don't. You still can't do that. I still don't. I mean you a star. I'm talking about like Pandemonium Riot. Maybe that happened after the group separated. After the group separated, it shifted.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Because if you walking in the mall with, I mean B2K was already four people and then plus four security guards, it's like you in there and you a mob. You know what I mean? So people are like, but you know, if you wanna do things quickly, you go alone. And that's what I learned, you know, how to be stealthy. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Did you find that your fans grew with you? Yes. Yes, a lot of them. I mean, a lot of them still, you know, still pop up to the shows and come to the meet and greets and everything, so yeah. Yeah, girls I grew up with from New York City, they knew who they are, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:42:13 Still come to my shows, they got kids, got work, all kind of stuff, so. They ever bring any of the kids and they got baby heads and you know, long, whole world. Yeah, I say what's up to they kids, kids named after me. Yeah, kids named after up to the kids kids named after me yeah named after you yeah kids named after me and everything like yes it's a few kids out there named after Omarion. Do they look like Omarion? No, no, no. Could they be Omarion's kids for real? Oh no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Are they dancing at the meeting greets? That's what you're asking? Yeah, no, no, no. No, I haven't met any of those yet but I'm pretty, that's what you're asking? Yeah. Yeah, nah, nah, nah. Okay. No, I haven't met any of those yet, but I'm pretty sure that I've inspired some kids out there. You know, you've worked with a lot of legendary labels, Epic, you was with Young Money for a little bit, Maybach Music, what did you learn from each one of those experiences?
Starting point is 00:42:58 That it's very important to make sure that you create the relationship that you want. And like you said, I've dealt with so many different layers and levels of business people. At this particular time, me and my team, we only dealing with the head, Pauls. We're dealing with the top people, the people that are decision makers.
Starting point is 00:43:23 So I think through all of that, you know I mean being on Maybach Because you know they were Working with Atlantic they were you know, um, I won't say a subsidiary, but they did a you know, um a deal together Yeah joint venture. That's what the word I was looking for. So yeah, just really dealing with the top people doesn't decision-makers That's the difference to today. Like, you know, when I'm doing business, I deal with the people that can move things. Do you feel like they realize the full potential of Omarion?
Starting point is 00:43:53 Any of those labels? I don't think they care. I don't think they care. I don't think it's in the business's nature to care. I think that a lot of people in the business are, you know, just, you know, numbers. I think that there's a few executives that really care about the product, and they understand that in order to really make an intentional return, you gotta be invested for real,
Starting point is 00:44:16 not just on a financial level. You have to really know where the artist wants to take it. So that's been my experience. And you're ending now, right? Yes, shout out to Create. I'm about to drop some new music. So that's been my experience. And you're indie now, right? Yes. Shout out to Create. I'm about to drop some new music, myself and MPK. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:44:34 We just doing a collaborative with Create. So yeah. What about Bow Wow? You think you and Bow Wow will ever do a joint album again? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I feel like if I'm gonna do any collaboration, whether it be rapper, singer,
Starting point is 00:44:50 I feel like they have to have current music out, you know what I'm saying? Music that, and current music of the last maybe three years. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, if I'm gonna do a collaborative, it's gonna be like, okay, new music we working on, new vibes. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:45:07 Just because you feel like, you know, if you made music in the last three years, you actually care, you're active? Yeah, you're active. You know what I mean? Like, you know what's, you know, as far as producers, you know what I mean? Like, what does that look like?
Starting point is 00:45:20 And also I feel like you have a better shot at putting something out, you know, like visuals I think that today's artists like there's so many things that you have to do in order to you know, really be visible You know, I mean, so I will want someone as not just you know visible, you know on social media But like in the music too. I feel like you and Leo cook up some shit together. Oh, yeah That would be dope. You did a Got Served style cameo for JT. Oh yeah, that was dope. That was really dope.
Starting point is 00:45:50 How did that come about? Yeah, so JT and their people hit me up and they was like, you know, we got this song, you know, and I felt like in a way it was also paying homage to Fat Man Scoop, you know what I'm saying, Rest In Peace. So yeah, it was cool she asked me and I was just like, I got you and she's such a sweetheart. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:10 So I thought that was really, really dope and I wish more artists would pay homage to the generation before them because we're still relatively young. You know what I mean, the 80s babies. I saw a video and it was like all these kids that were born in 2000, they were saying that you're old if you're born in 2000. I'm like, huh? I'm like, so it seems like being older stops at 30, which is crazy. You know what
Starting point is 00:46:37 I mean? So yeah, I would definitely love to continue to do things like that, work with you know, some of the younger talent in the business. Yeah. Have you ever reached out to Leon? Do you do anything? No, not yet, but we've crossed paths. Yeah, we crossed paths. I love to see what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:46:53 You know what I mean? Like, he's actually a child star too. He's someone that started very, very young. So to see where he's at today is just awesome. I feel like that's, you know, it's very rare to see a lot of child stars continue on and continue to transform. And that's what I've always loved about music
Starting point is 00:47:14 is you don't have to stop or you don't have to essentially get old. You know, you can pick up a flute. You know, you can pick up an instrument. You can write, you can direct. You know, it's so much to do in our business. Child stars don't go crazy like they used to. Like there was a time when the child stars
Starting point is 00:47:30 were there like the ones from the 80s. I mean it's something, it's something still going crazy. For the most part, y'all keeping it together. Yeah, yeah. What do you think, what's the one thing you wish you knew when you first started your career? 40 year old Amarion, what would he tell 16 year old Amarion? I think about like life insurance policies,
Starting point is 00:47:51 trust, just certain things that if you wanted to take a break, you could, you know what I'm saying? That's something that I feel like finances, I wish I would have been given that game earlier on. I felt like maybe I would move differently if I had that. But everything is for a reason. Well, definitely check him out on tour, Millennium Tour 2025, he gonna be in New York.
Starting point is 00:48:18 What's the date? We at the Barclays, March 21st, y'all pop out. No, March 17th. Oh, it's March 17th? That's what it says here, I don't know. Maybe you let it change. Well, listen, for my city, cause I know Baltimore come out March 16th, he's at the CAG Bank Arena.
Starting point is 00:48:33 And then Barclays is the next day, March 17th. Oh, well, excuse me, I done messed it up. Don't listen to me now. I'm looking forward to the music, man. Cause I'm always like, you know, brothers that are practicing mindfulness and you know, really dealing with their emotional wellbeing. I like to see how that translates in their art.
Starting point is 00:48:49 I'm looking forward to the music. I'm looking forward to Wild Rose, the new series that she got coming in 2026 on All Black. So I'm looking forward to that. Thank y'all so much. We just saw, no, we seen Drake beat you in the dance battle too. Drake?
Starting point is 00:49:01 Yeah, him and Drake had a dance battle and Drake killed him. I don't believe that. I didn't even see that, but I know that didn't happen. Destroy killed him. I don't believe that. I didn't see that but I know that didn't happen. He destroyed him. I don't believe that. I don't believe that. Where was this?
Starting point is 00:49:10 At his birthday party. Oh, he was at his birthday party. I was keeping it light. Lights skinned me up one. I don't believe that happened. It was your birthday party? No, it was his. Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:49:21 All right, well, it is. It's the Breakfast Club of Marion. Yeah. Wake that ass up. In, okay, okay, okay. All right, well, it is. It's the Breakfast Club of Marion. Yeah. Wake that ass up. Early in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
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