The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Oscar De La Hoya Talks Ryan Garcia Vs.Haney, Relationship With Canelo Álvarez, Tyson Vs. Paul More

Episode Date: April 19, 2024

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listen to podcasts wake that ass up in the morning the breakfast club morning everybody is dj envy jess hilarious charlamagne the guy we are Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. Oscar De La Hoya. Welcome. What's up, brother? Big weekend for you. Yeah. Fight night. I have to ask one question.

Well, Ryan Garcia versus Devin Haney. Ryan Garcia versus Devin Haney. When you prepare for a fight, the couple of days before the fight, do you go out? Do you go to restaurants? Or do you just focus and stay in a hotel after training? What's usually you advise a boxer well what i would advise a boxer is obviously stay in stay focused you know um you know focus on your craft your fight making weight it all depends every fighter is different i've seen ryan gossi in the restaurant we last night 11 30 p.m what does that mean well yeah we learned from the bro. What? I'm sorry. Learned from the biggest snitch in the world.

Be quiet. But is he focused? Every fighter's different. I don't know. I don't know. I'm his promoter. I'm not with him 24-7. But, yeah, you take a look at fighters in the past, and it's like, I mean, look at Tyson, right, in Japan.

He lost to Douglas. Yeah, he lost. It's like you have fighters like Trinidad or myself that are focused. Ryan's different, man. I don't know what it is, but he's just different. And I saw him. Every time I see him, he's focused. He's on it.

And then every time cameras are around him, he's like, he just turns it on. It's crazy. Well, yesterday you said, well, not yesterday. You're talking about Devin Haney. But are you concerned about Ryan Garcia's mental health in any way? Am I concerned? No, every time I'm around him, I don't really pay attention. I see what he's posting and all that, and it's like, okay.

I always think, well, it takes, what, 10 seconds to post? 30 seconds to post? So do you think it's a show for to sell tickets to sell a fight? He might be trolling, man. I don't know. I don't know. Now, recently they say he got asked to leave the Mets game. He was supposed to throw out the first pitch.

Yeah. And they threw him out the game. Do you know the reason for that was? Yeah. The security, I'm pretty sure somebody in security got fired because we walked in. Oh, you was with him? Oh, yeah, yeah, I was with him. We walked in and he goes into the VIP room to wait, with him we walked in and he he uh he goes into

the vip room to wait you know and he's warming up he's excited to throw the pitch yeah and i walk him i walk in after him and i run into um i run into the wife of the owner and we start talking and she speaks spanish and i'm like oh man she's all excited oh i can't wait for ryan and throw the pitch took pictures and uh all of a sudden, like 15 minutes later, yeah, they tell us, hey, they don't want Ryan or Devin throwing the first pitch because there might be a fight. Between them? Between them.

Oh, because of what happened at the first pitch. I mean, it was a good shove, you know, for Devin. And I was like, no, it's all good. It's all good. I'll be in the middle, and I'll take care of it. And they said, well, we'd rather have you throw the first pitch, but they can't do it. So I said, you know what?

I'm going to stick to my boy. We're going to get out of here. Let's go. We're Yankees fans anyway, so. How did you get your relationship back on track with Ryan Garcia? Because he was just pissed off at you all in December. You know what? It's funny because when a fighter is is gonna make a lot of money you know things change

things change when a fighter loses things change when the fighter wins things change you know so boxing but boxing boxers are we're all roller coasters man was there any conversation any apologies yeah yeah no no, we talked. I'm here to give him advice. I'm probably the closest person, the closest fighter to give him advice. You know, everybody compares us this and that. Our careers are similar or whatever. But no, we're all cool.

We're good. I saw you say that Devin Haney's losing his composure. I think he is, man. I think he is. man. See, what Ryan reminds me of is Floyd Mayweather, okay? You know, Floyd Mayweather was the master at talking smack. He was. On how to get

in your head. And I can see Ryan getting into Devin's head. I mean, I've never seen Devin push somebody so hard. At the Empire State Building. It was great. I've never seen that.

And so, yeah, I mean, Ryan, I think Ryan's doing something right, man, because he's going to make weight. Is he going to make weight? Because that was one thing that said he might not make weight. I mean, I hear both guys are, I think they know how to sell the fight, you know, and it's created a huge buzz. But I think Saturday night, it's going to be so intense. I couldn't face these guys off yesterday at the press conference because I thought they were going to go at it.

Yeah. What are your thoughts on the ticket sales? Ticket sales are going great. Not at the Barclays. Yeah, tickets. I mean, we're going to have, yeah, 17,000 people there. That's a damn lie. No, no, it's not. They just said that they were having trouble selling tickets. I mean, we're going to have, yeah, 17,000 people there. That's a damn lie. No, no, it's not.

They just said that they were having trouble selling tickets. No, it's not. It's not. When did that change, Oscar? We sold, we were at 14,000 when I got to New York. Man, somebody lying. Somebody saw all the headlines. Charlamagne said somebody was giving out tickets at the front.

I can see the money in the bank account. Yeah. So all these headlines, you've seen these headlines. They said they was giving away tickets in the front of the ball place. Yeah. You've seen these headlines. They said they was giving away tickets in the front of the ball place and nobody wanted to go. No? It's not true. I would never do that. You're a promoter. You're supposed to say that. You can't come on here and say nobody bought it.

If it wasn't Sally, I would say, it's not Sally, but I'll tell you one thing. It hasn't sold out, which makes me not concerned, but surprised. A fight like this should't sold out, which makes me not concerned but surprised. A fight like this should have sold out quick. I remember Ryan saying that that was a part of the reason why he wanted to be in Vegas.

Because it's a better selling market for fights. But I had to bring him in New York. Why? I had to. They're both LA fighters. I figured it would be bigger in LA. But I'll tell you one thing. New York is a whole different animal, man. New York, when you

fight in New York, when you're exposed to the audience here, it's just, it takes you to another level, man. So I had to bring Ryan here with Devin and it just made sense. The pay-per-views matter more though, right? The pay-per-view bar. Yeah, and it's going through the roof. It's crazy. We have numbers that are just, I mean, it's topping

fights. This is going to be like a top five in the world, man. History. Really? Oh yeah. It's crazy. Yeah, I believe that. We have numbers that are just, I mean, it's topping fights. This is going to be like a top five in the world, man. History. Really? Oh, yeah. It's crazy. I don't doubt that. I mean, Ryan sells fights. And I do have to say that my bad on my part,

I did scale the tickets a little too high. Like the first six, seven, first ten rows, I think I put them too high. I think I was a little greedy. Okay. Hell yeah, I was looking. I was like, what? Yeah.

But I was. Now, what would a Ryan Garcia loss mean to his career right now? I think Ryan Garcia, see, there's something special with Ryan Garcia is that you take a look at the tank fight, right? He loses. The way he lost, gets knocked out. But now he's even bigger.

It's strange. He's even bigger now. And fighting Devin Haney, this is going to be a bigger fight than fighting Tank. And so if he loses, it does nothing to him. Even if he gets knocked out? I think it depends how he loses. It just depends on how, yeah, you're right. It depends on how he loses, it does nothing to him. Even if he gets knocked out? I think it depends how he loses. It just depends on how, yeah, you're right.

It depends on how he loses. He gets knocked out in one, two rounds or whatever. It's not over, but obviously his stock goes down. But if it's a great fight, if it's a great fight, a long fight, and you get stopped in the 10th, 11th round, in a great fight, he loses nothing. If he wins, damn. I don't think I'm'm gonna see him for like two

months you think it's gonna sell out it's gonna be a big one yeah yeah yeah no that's it's gonna be it's gonna be big i mean uh yeah it's huge it's actually huge but yeah the ticket sales yeah my bad my bad seriously my bad so what do you mean my bad you just said it's too high. A little high, you know? If I watch that TV on Saturday and it ain't full, Oscar? Oh, no, it will be full. It will be full.

We'll have 17,000, 18,000 people that we want. All right. Now, Canelo's back working with Golden Boy to promote his upcoming fight, right? Did I read that correctly? Well, no. No, no. Canelo chose my fighter, Jaime Munguia, to fight. Yeah, the Cinco de Mayo weekend.

I like him too, by the way. Yeah, he's a beast, man. Yeah. I think it's the changing of the guards. I really do. I really do. I think Canelo's a great fighter. Don't get me wrong.

He's fought everybody. But every fighter has their decline. Every fighter, you know, the wear and tear. Canelo's had surgeries on his knees and his shoulders. You know, he had a tough fight in his last, you know, outing with some guy from the U.K. And Munguia knocked that guy out in his last fight. So I think Munguia being 27 years old, Canelo being 34 on his way out, I think it's a changing of the guards.

So if Canelo was still your fighter, would you say he's on a decline? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Really? Yeah. So you'd be encouraging him to retire now? Will I encourage him to retire? Not until he fights Munguia.

You're going to beat us? Oh, Munguia. Oh, yeah. I want Munguia to kick his ass. And you think he's going? Oh, hell yeah. I think so. Wow.

I think so. I like Munguia, though. No, I like Munguia. He's a beast. No, he's a warrior, man. He's a warrior, man. He's a fighter. But look, you know how it is in boxing. The next young guy has to come up and dethrone, you know,

just like me and Chavez back in the day. So, yeah, it has to happen. Now, you were very critical on the Jake Paul-Mike Tyson fight. Yeah, Jake Paul. I love Mike Tyson, man. I love Mike. I don't want to see him get hurt. I don't want to see Yeah, Jake Paul. I love Mike Tyson, man. I love Mike. I don't want to see him get hurt. I don't want to see him, you know.

I know they're fighting with a headgear. They're fighting with 16-ounce gloves. I know they're fighting with headgear. Yeah, yeah, they're fighting with headgear. So this is what I tell Jake Paul. Jake Paul, if you want to take the sport serious, right, the way you claim you want to take the sports serious and be world champion, it's not taking this route and fighting

Mike Tyson. Yeah, you're going to make a lot of money. You're going to sell a lot of tickets. You're going to attract a lot of new fans, which is great. But if you want to take the sports serious and be world champion, then take the route. Go fight a top 20. Go fight a top 10 fighter, a top 5 fighter. Be a contender and win a world title. Take the tough. Go fight a top 20. Go fight a top 10 fighter, a top 5 fighter.

Be a contender and win a world title. Take the tough road the way we did. This route here, yeah, it's a money grab. But it's all good. I just wish Mike Tyson the very best. I love Mike Tyson. You think he can beat Mike Tyson? I don't know, man.

One punch from Tyson can end it all. And Tyson's looking like a beast right now. You just said Canelo's on the decline. He's only 34, Mike Tyson is 60. Yeah, but this is- Mike Tyson's not a damn 60. He's close. This is an exhibition.

Oh, so you don't think they're really gonna be hitting each other going? No, no. You don't think Mike Tyson will be hitting him? I don't think so either. I mean, you saw the Roy Jones, Mike Tyson fight, right? Yes. And nobody knocked each other out.

I mean, you know, we know how to pull punches. Yeah. Do you think, if Ryan Garcia loses this fight, what did you learn from his loss against Tank that you would do different if he loses this one to Haney? I mean, look. Would you be there for him? Yeah, it all depends on him.

Look, I'm the promoter, man. You know, yeah, a lot of people think that I'm there with him every single day and they're holding his hand. He has his own team. He has his managers. He has his, you know, he's got everything. I'm just here him every single day and they're holding his hand. He has his own team. He has his managers. He's got everything. I'm just here to organize the whole thing.

That's it. I can give them advice if they come and ask me for advice. But I can't be, it's like babysitting. I can't be babysitting when I got 60 fighters in my roster. But nothing's concerning to you

when you see him spaz out online or you see the tweets or you hear the stories. It's not concerning at you when you see him, you know, spaz out online or you see the tweets or you hear the stories. It's not concerning at all. Yeah, I got to call him, you know, hey, what's going on, bro? He goes,

nah, everything's good. I'm trolling, man. I'm trolling. Okay. Yeah. So I got to believe that. And that's actually great for a promoter

because troll, troll, troll, tickets, tickets, tickets. Exactly. I want to ask you another question about Canelo. He was here last year and he said he didn't know if you're a good person and that you're

all business. Do you think Oscar De La Hoya is a good person? If you see everything what he's doing I think before because we are loyal right and we are always we are the only fighter we stay

with them when everybody left him right because I'm loyal and and I I trade everybody like a family and I I do the same thing with with all them boy but I I think he's no you know that kind of person you don't have no loyalty? I don't know if he's a good person or not, but I think he's no, he knows the person what he show. You think it's just all business with him? Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. All business.

I'm very disappointed with the shit he's talking. I really am. Because we worked together for, what, I think 11 years. I built his career, you know. We could have easily derailed his career by the opponents that we chose for him, you know. And you're going to tell me that he's going to talk shit about me when the man is down? You know, when I was down and out, what, four or five years ago,

six years ago, he wants to step on my neck and keep me down and talk shit. Like, what's wrong with you? You know? So yeah. Does he think I'm a bad guy? Yeah. I'm a bad guy to you. I don't like you for all the shit you talk to me about. You know, you don't do that. You put a man down and keep him down and talk shit and continue. Come on, dude. What happened to helping me out, you know? We're fighters. We're in the boxing business. We're here together, you know?

And so do I like him? I don't like him as a person. No, I don't. I mean, he talks about loyalty and this and that. And this guy's jumping from promoter to promoter to promoter to promoter. I mean, what kind of loyalty is that? That's not loyalty. You think he could ever be repaired between y'all?

No, no. He's that type of person. He's that type of person. Am I a bad guy? Come on, man. Everybody knows me. Everybody knows me. I don't know what that means.

It's probably people out there that know you. Yeah, he's a bad guy. everybody knows me everybody knows me i don't know what that means we're about to see right now one of them tickets in the first 10 rows yeah i'm coming okay but i got a ticket but it ain't in one of them 10 rows oh so okay are you a good person or not hell yeah thank you he's a good person no for I'll hook you up are you a good person hell yeah he's a good person no for real we need a few tickets yeah okay I got you come on Oscar seriously

oh now you wanna go whatever you need no I'm good for now now in our day I'm ordering a pay-per-view I control all the tickets I got you

I would think so golden boy I would hope so I got you I got you well we appreciate you for joining us the fight is this weekend if you haven't got your tickets get your order pay-per-view as well. I got you. Well, we appreciate you for joining us. The fight is this weekend.

If you haven't got your tickets, get your tickets, pay-per-view as well. And we appreciate you. Thank you for always coming up here, man. No, for real. Always, man. We appreciate having conversations with you. Absolutely. Man, I remember the first time I came here, shit.

I was scared as fuck, man. That's when your book came out. We had to talk about everything in that book. No, you know why? Because I was lying to myself. That's real. Yep. You got to stop lying to yourself. That's real. Yep. You gotta stop lying to yourself and stop volunteering those lies to others,

Oscar. I'm a new man, brother. That's right. Well, it's Oscar De La Hoya. It's the Breakfast Club Positive Notes up next. Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag.

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That's what my podcast Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you.

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