The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Pete Davidson Opens Up About Sobriety, Toxic Tabloids, Future Fatherhood, SNL, New Movie + More
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Every day I wake up
The Breakfast Club
Are you all finished or y'all's done
Morning everybody
It's DJ NV
Just Hilarious
Sholomaine Nagai
We are the Breakfast Club
La Rosa is here as well
And we got a special guest
In the building
Pete Davison
My guy
Good morning
Good morning, sir
How are you feeling?
Fantastic.
How are you guys?
Good.
You get one woman pregnant and you start growing out your mustache?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love the face, right?
You guys like it?
I love this.
I do.
I'm wildly insecure about it.
I had to film this thing and I had to grow a beard and it took me like five or six months and then we wrapped and I was like, this took so long.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can't just shave it off.
You look just like your father.
Don't look like my dad?
I mean, like, I'm pregnant.
I don't know.
I look like an 80s dad.
No, I like it.
Oh, you, man?
I'm good.
Everything's good, finally.
Yeah, I'm just sober and, you know, just a guy now.
Amazing.
Yeah.
In my 30s, I got a stretch when I wake up.
There you go.
Yeah, stuff hurts, you know.
Oh, I've immediately to tell you, you got the Enios.
You got one too, I heard.
So my boy, Mark, we went to high school together.
Oh, you went to high school at home?
Yeah, the Ineos, granted, it's crazy freehold, yeah.
It's this crazy, off-roading, like, what is that, French car or whatever?
Yeah, so a billionaire who, the story is a billionaire who loved the land, the defender from Land Rover, wanted to buy one, and they said they didn't make it anymore.
So he said, I'll buy the company.
That's some red shit right there.
No, we're not going to sell it to you.
So he said, I'll make my own.
He made his own, Land Rover sued him.
He won, and now he makes his own vehicles.
Wow.
He won.
Yeah, he won.
So it's based off of his own styles.
He likes to go camping.
So the car is just really cool.
Like, I go through, you can go through damn there anything.
I saw the video of you in Jersey.
You see me in the flood, right?
It looks like a Bronco.
It was like four feet of water.
And you could just go right through it.
No problem.
That was cool.
So I love the vehicles.
It's pretty dope.
And now you got one.
Yeah, I just, I had to.
Yeah, I just, I had to say.
Mark, yeah, Mark told me to say.
Hello.
I was like, I know him before you.
Before you.
Yeah.
And you're in a new movie now?
What's the name of the movie?
The pickup.
The pickup.
The pickup.
Yes.
Yes.
With Eddie Murphy and Kiki Palmer?
Yep.
How was working with Eddie?
I mean, it's ridiculous.
I obviously, I'm a huge Eddie Murphy fan.
Eddie Murphy's like a reason that, the reason I got in a comedy and I got sent the script
and I didn't read it because I just saw Eddie Murphy's doing this.
And then I saw Kiki Palmer's doing this.
and Tim Story is a great director.
And I just had a blast, man.
He's such a star.
You know, like there's very few stars left.
But when he's on set, even if you can't see him, you're like,
anyway.
And he was a star star.
80 celebrity was totally different than anything that we got now.
No, they were real movie stars.
You didn't know what they did all day.
And he's, you know, like he, you can just see what Mark Wahlberg's doing right now.
That's not a dig at Mark Wahlberg, but like I know his whole morning routine.
I know what
Like I know his family better than I know mine
And I think that that ruins stuff
Like you know, you don't know anything about Eddie Murphy really
Tom Cruise you don't really know anything about
I mean he has an Instagram
But like you don't you know
There's that sort of aura that you
That makes you want to be like
Oh I'm going to go see this movie
You know like Christian bail or whatever
He doesn't have an Instagram
So when he has something out
You're just like oh I got to go
I got to go see this
When did you realize that
Because I remember when you got rid of all your social media
I got rid of it because mentally it was destroying me
because you know how they'll be like
you know well for me it actually wasn't like this
but there'll be the there'll be like 100 nice comments
and two bad ones I would only see the two bad ones
and I also just don't like anyone could just reach out to you
you're very accessible someone could DM you
or reach out to you or if you're hanging out to like hey follow me
and I just didn't like all that stuff so it's been
tough like with just career-wise it's like a tough thing to be 31 and not have an
Instagram but I think it's just better for me but some people I think it may
make sense like if you're literally anybody else yeah but you know you've always
lived your life out loud because shit went from zero to a hundred for you like
that I mean one moment you're on wild and out one moment you're on guy cold next
thing you know you on SNL and then it's just like yeah took off yeah yeah
got a little out of control fast and I was really young and now I'm I'm still I feel like I'm
still pretty young but uh you are I am right but like I was what the mustache says thank you
he has a mustache pose you know you tell you said mustache he got that 80s brand yeah I got that
good morning yeah but you know I met you when I was like 16 17 and I'm almost 16 years of
do so half my life i've been doing this so um you know it's i'm glad all the bad crazy stuff
happened in my 20s uh because it's just i don't know i'm glad i got it out of the way but uh yeah
it's tough when you're young and doing that i i'm jealous of people who blow up and they're like 35
because they have a full life they they have their family they have their friends and they know
who they are as people and when you don't know who you are yet and you're just in the
the news all the time for literally bullshit it's embarrassing it's like it sucks you
know but I'm grateful that it was you know not that it's excusable but I was really
young so I'm just like you didn't do dumb shit though it's not like you were just
like one of these you know child stars who did dumb shit yeah I was just doing drugs
and like trying to do comedy you know what I mean you know it's not that like
it's regular shit yeah you know I'm not like you know I didn't kill any
or anything but you know it's still you don't want that out you know you want to be able to grow
you know that's what we don't really have anymore is like any form of privacy i feel like for young
people where like you get to make those mistakes and learn your lessons and it not be in page six
you know that's what was embarrassing so then i had a you know you just have to reframe your
whole life which is really tough but it's better now we see we've seen you struggle a little
bit how did you deal with it to get through it like was it therapy was it deleting all the
social media was it friends was it family was it stepping away i was a big drug addict like uh
i would go to rehab and stuff uh and i did have i do have mental stuff um and i was in therapy
but if you're a drug addict like none of that works like you can't go to therapy on a bunch of drugs
and expect it to work so i think yeah well you think you're like i'm like i'm getting better
I'm definitely getting better for sure um but uh you know really what it was is I just I had to
I had to I'm not a person who could do things in moderation unfortunately and I think um I was
kind of trying to fool myself and be like you you can do this or and then it just got to a point
where like people I really cared about where like I will not fuck with you anymore and some
Some of them don't still, most of them I would say came back, but it just was, there were people
that I was like, okay, if you're saying this to me, then like I should, it's real.
And I also had a lot of, I've said this before, but I've been guilty of having like, you
know, 70 people in the green room and I only know like 10 of them.
I remember that here.
But they're all my best friends now.
And you know, you gotta be, I didn't realize how careful you have to be and how careful
you have to move when there's there's a lot at stake there's a lot of money at stake there's jobs at
stake and you can't have people you don't know know everything about you because this sounds i don't want to
sound a certain type of way but like sometimes you're the most exciting part of someone else's life
right yeah so like whatever you you might be just like talking because it's your personal life
but that person's like oh i just got like a little trinket that i can bring to all my friends and then
And they tell their friends, and then before you know it,
it's all over the news.
And you're like, how, how does, you know, so I just had a learn,
I just learned slowly.
But, you know, he's always been so self-aware.
Like, one of the reasons I even started going to therapy back in the day
was because of people, because he was so young,
but he would just acknowledge, I got to go into rehab.
I need to be sitting down talking to somebody.
And I'm like, well, if he can acknowledge his bullshit
and go out there and get some help for it,
my old ass definitely need to be doing the same thing.
Well, I feel like you've always been super,
head and on the right side of things and not afraid to be like you're a very masculine guy but also
just like hey it's cool to like talk about stuff and I think you've done a lot for a lot of people
because you know your status and who you are as a person like it's important for a guy like you
to be able to say that stuff to make other dudes be like oh it is cool charlemagne does that you know
so I think you're always ahead of the game on that stuff appreciate you but no yeah got you to the
point where you were so transparent about like the different things you were struggling with
in battling with
because eventually
you were talking
about I'm checking
myself in here
and I'm doing this
well you know
when I was on
SNL it was kind of like
one
I don't want anyone
to ever have anything
on me
I always use the
eight mile approach
where it's
I saw eight mile
when I was like
eight or nine
and I was like
oh he told everybody
all all the bad stuff
about him
and then no one could say
anything
use anything against him
right so I always
kind of took that approach
and also
when you're on a show
like SNL
where you have to be
it's live it's week to week it's very public um i just didn't want anyone to know anything about me or
have anything on me but also like my job at that show wasn't the traditional thing like i wasn't
a impression guy or even very much a sketch guy my whole thing was like i would go on week
and update and do stand-up and then after like my first or second year i burned through all my
stand-up material and I was like because it's week to week so I would just be like what's going on
in my life this week and then it just kind of became somewhat therapeutic but also again just like
I don't when someone knows what you're going through or they are aware of maybe some issues
you have or stuff you're dealing with then they're not like why is he acting like that you know what
I mean?
They're not like, well, they're like, oh, I know why he's acting like that.
He's sad or he's, you know, so I just wanted to be super transparent and also everyone at
S&L was 10, 15 years older than me and I had a tough time.
They weren't mean or anything.
It's just hard to, you know.
Relate.
Yeah, I would be like, hey, you guys want to go smoke weed?
And they're like, we're having our first child and I'm getting married next week and all this
stuff and I was like oh you guys don't want to play video games it's weird so it was my
also a way of me trying to like let them know what's going on with me because it was
tough to you know it's just tough to make it's tough to make friends did that increase the
connection I think so I think there it became sort of a I think when I first got to
like this kid's just like loud this is like a loud kid wearing his whole life on his
sleeve to that's my little
brother. And then I
felt that way. Keenan was always
big bro from day one
but I think everybody, you gotta remember
Essel's... Yes, he does.
That was, yeah, that was
a way to become friends very quickly.
But it's also,
you got to remember, Esenol, it's competitive.
It's not just like a
it's not like a team
sport. It's
who could be the best this week and have
their stuff on the show.
Oh, wow.
So there is this aspect of we all respect and love each other,
but at the end of the day, like, I'm trying to eat you a lot.
Like, I want to be better than you.
So it's a very competitive environment.
You were one of the youngest cast members on SNL in the show's history.
The youngest.
Yeah, the youngest.
I think I'm third.
But the list is crazy.
It's Robert Johnny Jr.
Eddie's first, then it's Robert Johnny Jr.
And I think Anthony Hall was on it for like a year.
but yeah we're all 19 and 20
I feel like when you were on SNL
it may like at least for me
I paid more attention to the show
like I would watch it because I had to
or like certain things were happening
but when you were on there it felt like
it was like someone I knew
because you were close to my age
did you ever feel pressure
yeah like did you ever feel pressure
because like to a certain generation of people
you did make it more relatable
like the things that you were bringing to the show
the topics they were able to touch because you were there
I appreciate that first of all thank you very much
I was so young
I was super unaware
of everything thankfully like now looking back I'm like oh that's what I was doing
but I was so young when I got SNL the sounds terrible but like I didn't know it was
still on and I didn't really I never watched it I was 19 20 years old so when I
auditioned I had to they were like what's your favorite stuff I like just YouTube
stuff in the bathroom and I was like I like the Californians or whatever but I had no idea
what I was talking about so luckily I walked in I didn't realize the magnitude of that show I was just
like oh this is another job I'll probably do this two three years and then get fired and then it actually
hit me when I did the 50th uh this like 50th anniversary show I saw everybody in that room and I was like
oh shit that sounds cool like this is this is like a institution this is like uh you know like
the Harvard of comedy it's like a comedy college and uh but I was so lucky I was so young
I was super naive so I just was like I'm just gonna smoke weed and talk about you know
what's going on in my life but thank you for saying that that's cool yeah because that's the best
shit of like that's that was like the best part of the shit that I saw because I never thought
SNO was funny you know what I mean like I just never thought it was funny I would see my parents
watch but I never I never watched like that but when I did I was okay this dry humor it's cool
but it's not really funny you got on there like she said you made it relatable for us
Especially, like, then when you came from Wiling Out, we were very happy to see that you made it on there.
And you're like, yo, this, this thing is funny, well, of sure.
Thank you.
No, thank you.
That's funny is dude.
Well, he's miscellaneous in the face, so I can understand why he was.
Yes.
I think with the mustache and my white guy hair now, I have evolved into a white guy.
But for a while, though, it was up for debate, for sure.
19 to 24
Anybody's ball game
Remember we went to go by them fake chains
Oh, of course
Gold played it
Canalsry, right?
I went on Canisbury?
No, it went to 47
Yeah, yeah, they were heavy
I remember I was I made like
I think I had maybe
$10,000 to my name
and I was like I want to go buy
a $10,000 chain
Charlemagne was like
Why don't you just get an $800 chain
That looks exactly like it
All the rappers wear it
No one has any idea.
And, yeah, it was this big gold-plated Cuban chain.
I was like, nobody's going to question you.
Yeah.
You're Pete Davis.
Well, the problem.
So then I bought one.
The next day on the radio, he tells everybody.
Yeah.
No, I did it.
Guys, I got a fake chain.
I said, I got one.
And I told a story about Pete later.
It's like, yeah, I wouldn't have a fake chain.
I'm like, but what's, it makes no sense.
That's crazy.
Boy, that chain was, it looked fire, though.
It looked, yeah, it was great.
Yeah, it was great.
How long did it last for?
I still got it.
I had it for four or five years
and then I gifted it to a friend
Does he think it's real?
No, I told them, but I did the whole
I was like, no one's gonna know?
I did, exactly, it was exactly what you told me
I passed on to, I had, I got to be you for a second,
it was nice.
Who's gonna question you, they know you got it?
So it's like, it's funny, that's what I'm realizing now
with all like the lab, not like into diamonds that much,
but like, it's like, who gives this shit?
They look exactly the same.
And they're made in a, you know,
There is that hole it's made in a nicer fashion.
Well, they made the same way diamonds are made,
but it's just man-made opposed to it.
Right.
And I like the one you way in the day.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah.
Thank you.
That's really dope.
I want to ask one more question about S&L
because it's just about you as an actor.
When you, to me, you're like the last, like,
really big star that came from S&L.
In more recent year.
Thank you.
But at the time when you were, like,
all in the tabloids for who you were dating and everything else,
was there any, like, I don't want to say hate,
but did anybody feel it,
you feel any animosity from the...
From the cash?
Yeah.
I think they were just like, because you got to remember, like, everyone there did, you know,
Second City improv, like worked so hard, so hard.
Not saying I didn't work hard, but I was only doing comedy like three, four years.
And a lot of what people liked about me was like, oh, this is like a kid from Staten Island
that's just talking shit.
So you got to remember all of these people are 10, 15 years older than me working so hard
SNL don't pay great
until you're
like five, six years in
and at the time you weren't allowed
to do stuff outside the show
that was a payday
because it was like the Yankees
they were like no beards
they're like no you gotta dress up
to go to the after party
and all this shit
so I think I did
rub people the wrong way
and I think it was just
annoying for the cast
I think the show
as a whole loved it because they were like
people are talking about S&L.
Not that they weren't.
I don't want someone on YouTube be like,
motherfucker thing.
He's the real.
I brought a lot of pop culture into the show.
Like I made it sort of like a tabloidy,
like trendy thing unintentionally.
And also I was embarrassed by it like because I was no one,
now it started to change a little bit,
but no one talked about any work.
work I was doing. They were just like, oh, that's the, you know, fuck stick. And, like, that hurt so much so, like, and they saw, I think after, like, a year or two, everyone saw how sad I was about it and embarrassed. Because, like, I was never on Instagram, like, you know, flexing that sort of lifestyle at all. I was very, like, embarrassed by it. So I think after a while, they, they understood. But at first, yeah, they were like, this kid's just, like, allowed. And this is nothing to do with SNL. This is.
but no one was like out I just want to be clear no one was ever outrightly mean or you know by any means but it was sort of like you know just like hey what were you embarrassed by though you was banging a lot of hot chicks and people knew you had a 10-inch penis like what you know on paper that sounds great but it's embarrassing because
you know first of all it's hollywood everybody fucks everyone yeah everybody's dating everybody
why are they focusing on me it's because it's i'm not you know i'm not glen powell handsome
you know i'm just this like dude that tells dick jokes that look that is a drug addict so
it was like a it was like what is it was like what yeah and it had nothing to do with comedy
and like also like that stuff affects relationships like seeing that and like trying to move around
and go on dates and like just be like a young dude who's trying to figure out who he is and like
not to be like I don't want to victimize myself in any way because I'm cool but like the sexualization
of me like if that was a girl you know like people will be like
like there'll be a march for it like you just you're just talking about my dick all day and people
if you talk about girls ass or girls cities or girls vagina it would yeah but it's like people do that on
the internet to like you know let's say cindy swine or whatever but it's people on there's no like
radio hosts or like news people being like this guy with the dick or like they they don't they don't
talk about girls like that professionally like it was professional
It was, like, pointed out on the street, like, it was embarrassing.
Where did that start?
Like, who started that rumor?
It was, I think it was like the New York Times or something when I started dating someone that I guess they considered out of my league, which I think everyone is out of my league.
But, you know, they were like, this guy must have big dick energy.
And then someone confirmed it.
And then it was just like, I don't remember.
they'll figure it out
I remember somebody calling my phone
when they're screaming at me about it though
oh yeah
he was pretty upset about that
no it was a guy
it was a guy
you said it wasn't me because they
I told the story already
it was not me
it was not me ladies and gentlemen
it was not me
no you did look at me in them
sweatpants though one time
I remember that
you know it was yes it was you
no not the one who was called you
screaming but I remember one time
I was sweatpants and I was like
did anybody just look
and then I was like maybe he did it
and then I went home and watched the interview
and he's like DCP Davidson's my fans
I was like what the fuck
what the fuck
no no no no no no before that
Pete was up here one day
I forgot what you was up
he was doing something no
and we were sitting in the office
and I introduced you to Pete
you and somebody else
it was like
you think of what I'm thinking
like
is it really 10 inches
I was like
damn it's also I don't think it is
this is embarrassing
now I don't like how you treating Pete right now
it's not a
about his genitals.
You who was having that conversation?
But this is the thing.
Why was Pete bricked up in the meeting?
I mean, sometimes he was.
I think it was just a warm day.
Oh, my God.
It was just a good, good sweatpants day, you know?
But he did reply and he was checking me out too, so it made me feel good.
Okay.
Even if he was lying, he said he was checking me out too.
Sometimes it looks good, you know.
Damn.
I wouldn't know if you, I can't relate.
Then you do an ad.
Which ad was it where you kind of played into?
to the BD.
Stop sexualizing him.
Guys, I'm uncomfortable.
No, I just did a reformation sort of thing.
I get, was it that one, the recent one?
No, this was a while back.
I believe it was Calvin Klein or something like that.
It was like the first time you kind of played into it.
Oh, yeah.
You didn't say it, but like you played into it a bit.
That made it worse.
Once I got sober and I looked out from like, you know,
what my friend says, I looked at it from the cheap seats,
I was just like, I have not capitalized on
people talking about my dick
for over a decade.
I was like, I should make some money
over this. You know, so
I actually, I've been sent a lot
of stuff over the years like
Big Dick sandwich.
Big Dick this.
Yeah, exactly. And I've been like,
nah, like that. Are you? Where to me?
No, they might come up with a bag
soon, so you might see a Big Dick sandwich
so I don't want to, I don't want
to shit on them. But I've
over the years gotten a lot of
offers like that and then Reformation came with I thought a really brilliant ad because they're a girl's
clothing line and they were like we want you to be the face of a girl's clothes I was like that's cool
and then you know I got most of my tattoos removed and the whole thing was kind of like at the time
a year ago or a year and change there were articles that were like pizza crackhead that like lives
with his mom and I was like I'm a crackhead but like I don't live with my mom like that hurt and it was
like Pete's career is over.
You know, I got in trouble for, I canceled Bupkis and I got in trouble for it because I didn't,
I love that show.
I love doing, I love doing Bupkis.
I had a blast.
Thank you for being in it.
It just got to a point where I was, I got really tired of my whole career just being like
my personal life.
And living through that is, it's sort of traumatic.
Like, I, not to be like lame, but like, it's, it's, it's true.
to live in your own crap all the time and it got to a point where like we would write stuff that I was comfortable with and then um I think the head of whoever was running my show who green lit it was gone and then this new person came in was like I think Pete should be banging Martha Stewart this season I think Pete should have more mental issues and I was like I was like oh but like I wouldn't do that and they were like well Pete the character and I was like I can't do this you know and I was like if I want any shot at being in
real movies or being seen a certain way,
I was like, I can't just play myself all the time
and be this, like, sack, you know, so.
So they were basically trying to exaggerate your trauma, baby.
Yeah, which I get.
Like, I would, too, if I was a studio head,
I'd be like, let's, you know, that's what works with Pete.
So I had to, you know, step back
and kind of take a little bit of a,
like, be in purgatory for a little bit.
And then Reformation came out was like,
do you want to do this?
And I was like, oh, okay, I could show everyone
that I'm sober.
and that I put a little weight on
and that like I'm an adult
and I felt like they help
it's corny but I feel like they helped me start
to like switch the narrative
a little bit so I love doing that
how did NBC react when you just told them
I don't want to do this number
they were not pleased
have you see me in any NBC
universal no they were
you know they were upset I cost
people jobs
and like you know I took care of
the writer's room and you know
anyone who didn't you know get paid that needed to i took care of it which also hurt uh but
you know it's funny it's like i work you work for a company for over a decade i i'm pretty sure
i brought in a lot of money you know uh you know worked hard on that show uh was a good boy
you know like promoting and whatnot and then like you're it made me realize a lot about the
business where i was like hey i'm gonna like like
I'm going to probably die
if I have to keep doing this
and like that's a problem
and it just made me realize
like before I got back into doing stuff
because I was chilling for like a year or whatever
before I started working
I was like
this can't be my whole life anymore
this is just a job
you have to have something outside
like this is just something that we get to do
which is very lucky and I'm very lucky
but it did kind of open my eyes where it's just like
oh like no one actually cares about you like studios networks they don't really care about you
they want you to do the thing which i get uh but like i just wasn't in a place now it's all good
like but there was like a time where it wasn't and like that was tough protecting your piece
is more important yeah but also what i realize is like if if you're good enough like they'll always
come back like if they're if you're worth doing something like you might be
off a little bit but if if you could produce or if you could do like you'll be back
but while you're not there it hurts and you're very confused um but yeah but i just
wasn't blacklisted no no i think i think i think i was no i think we're cool i talk to
everyone over there now we're cool there was a little time where there was some heat and it wasn't
all good but I think like now it's there was a time where it wasn't and I
understand why but it just hurt because it was a place I worked for over a
decade so I was just like I'm having trouble and like they're like you know
get it together kind of sort of they loved you you thought that was family
yeah you just there's these lessons that I had to learn but everybody there's
been nice and we've been cool and everything's been on the right foot now but
But yeah, there was a time where everyone, I was like, oh, it might be a rap, you know,
but then I realized there's a other studio.
And they liked me.
So, like, you know, like, that's why it's all good.
Now, you said you removed all your tattoos.
What made you want to do that?
And what was that process like?
My tattoos sucked.
They were all drug-fueled.
You know, I got all my tattoos in a span of like two years.
And I was just looking at myself in the mirror once in rehab.
I just for the first time when I was sober and I was just like oh no like what did I do
and I think tattoos are cool I realize most people's tattoos are meaningful and mine just
weren't so I started burning them off burning them off sucks I don't even got a tattoo
so you go to this doctor they have this big laser and they numb me up a little bit
and they burn I don't know if this is the technical
A foot washed up a shoe with some bones in it.
They had no idea who it was.
Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable.
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Essentially, they burn off a sheet of your skin, and then it got to heal for like six to eight weeks.
And then once that, and the healing thing is you have an open, you have an open gash on your arm.
And then you've got to put all this stuff on and keep it out of the sun.
and then after six to eight weeks you got to do it like 10 more times so it takes years you know and if you work you know can't be on set with like an open so like you got to schedule it in between so i'll be removing them till like 40 but it sucks if anybody is actually thinking about getting a tattoo i would recommend thinking about it for a couple years because your feelings change you know when i was 23 i was like who tank forever you know
No, no, I'm still there.
I kept my Wootteg tattoo,
but, you know, there's certain things that, like, you know,
like a dire wolf from Game of Thrones, like.
Why would you want that?
Why?
Yeah.
But when I was season seven, I was like, I got to get this.
Hillary Clinton, too.
But Hillary's staying.
at the forefront of some bullshit
and as someone who has been
at the forefront of some bullshit
I was just like
I just wanted to
you know cheer her up a little bit
what does she say about that tattoo
she loves it when I was getting
what was cute was on I got
him removed she hit me up
and was like you're not removing me
I was like of course not
of course it's Hillary stays
did you have to audition for the pickup
no i got i got uh so i i hosted uh assid all like two years ago and um it was actually a pretty
crazy story it was like the day after the initial israel palestine hummus stuff was happening
and um it was the season premiere so they were like you know we're going to have to address this
as a show and i was like of course you know i've been there before when stuff
happens. S&L's always been really good about getting ahead of it and just kind of in a way being
like, let's be funny. And we can still be funny, but we have to obviously acknowledge what's going
on. So like in typical Lauren fashion, you know, he tells me we're going to have to address it
as a show. And then like an hour before the show, he's like, it has to be you. And I was like, oh,
all right
and then the whole cold open
was just me
he was like you have to talk
to the audience about
what's going on and I was like
I don't know if I could do that and Lorne was like
well you were born in tragedy
so you could do it but he said it
kind of like that was like some bane shit
like you were born in the tragedy
and
you weren't pointing tragedy
tragedy it happened right
yeah but he was like
could do this and um so i just i was like thinking about what happened to me when 9-11 happened and
uh i just told this story about how my mom took me to f y e remember fye for your entertainment um
and i bought a edie murphy delirious DVD and i didn't know what it was i just loved edie murphy
growing up and i put it on in the car and my mom just heard fuck this suck my dick
fuck you don't look at my ass all this she was like what the hell are you watching i was like donkey from
shrek it's this new movie that you did because i you know shrek just came out and she was like
you can't watch this but i was laughing so hard at the ice cream man bid and um him doing the
the barbecue bid and she saw how much i was laughing and we weren't laughing a lot you know at the
time so she was like you can watch this just like don't tell anybody and it was our little
I used to watch Eddie Murphy stand up in my house.
And then I was like, I'll just tell that story.
So I told that story.
He saw it and they were about to start shooting that.
And then he just set the offer.
When you was on set and you were shooting with him on the pickup,
when did you realize like, oh, shit, this is Eddie Rush.
Like, was there a moment?
There was never a moment where it was not like, oh, my goodness,
but we weirdly have a lot of shit in common.
I'm by no means Eddie Murphy,
level in any way, shape or form.
I don't think anyone is.
But we're both the youngest cast members ever.
Both started stand up when we were like 15, 16.
I think maybe he was even 14.
Both lost our dads at like seven or eight.
So we immediately just bonded.
And it was like, you know, that Spider-Man meme?
Yeah.
It was kind of like that.
And we just got along real well.
But there is sometimes where in certain takes
where you're like, oh shit, that's some,
that's Eddie Murphy.
But we just had a good time and he's the best.
You ever try to out funny him
because he is such a legend?
Like I have to impress him even much more
or is it just?
So I've done that in the past where I'm like,
I'm just gonna try, you know when you first meet a famous person
before when you first get in the business
and you're just like, and you take a selfie with them
and then you realize like, oh, like they will never like me.
because then you become famous and someone does that to you and you're like oh all right
that was corny it's corny right so i luckily at s ando had so many of those moments because it's
there's a new famous person every week and then like halfway through i started getting notice a
little bit and i was like oh this sucks they're just regular people and they want to be spoken to
normally so i would just you know do that approach and there's nothing a comic hates more than
someone trying to be yeah funny so luckily it just was you know very
natural there was sometimes Eddie would dunk then I'd throw it up and sometimes
he would throw it up and um it was just fun man it was just we were in this little car
we were in this truck for like three months and we were just screaming at each other it was almost
like fan fiction like if like if I could work with Eddie Murphy in a movie not only
working with him but it's just me and him for three months in a car I was like that's it was
really fun it was super cool
I saw he helped you get your entourage together
you said watching him and how he moved changed
how you move yeah
yeah he has
you know
he's the biggest star
ever not just in comedy
and he was super young so he
he's been famous for
50 years you know
so like
when he showed up the set it was just
two people or just three people
and as I got to know these
guys he's also 60 plus now though yeah for sure but i asked him and he's like i i was like
why do you move like this or whatever and he was just like at a certain point i just was like
you know he's like i had everybody around too and then you know there's something weird about
where like you'll try and help your friends or do stuff with them all and they like get mad at you
Oh, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
And I'm like, how did this get, like, so weird?
Like, I think it's just, you know, we obviously change a little bit.
But, like, I think the people around you really sometimes change when this is a hard thing to navigate.
And I don't even blame them.
Like, it's, it just happens with some people.
And when you're going from doing, you know, 20, 30 people at a comedy club,
and then the next day it's $2,500 out of nowhere.
Like that fucking does something to your brain
and it does something to the people around you.
And I was just talking to Eddie and he's like,
yeah, just get like a couple people you could trust
that like you're, you know, I don't know.
I always thought you had to have like 40 friends.
But like if you have like three or four really good ones
that you could tell everything to, like you're very lucky.
And I just looked around me and I saw who was my favorite
and who I could trust and tell everything to
because I went through my phone
I was like can I tell this person everything
and I was like no I was like delete
that's a good way to do it
you know sure yeah
like can I tell them everything
and not be like is he gonna tell other people
or will I read this in the daily mail
and I'm like I don't know
buy so now have you ever had that happen
have you tested people like
oh yeah
some bullshit just to see yeah and still once in a while
I'll make up a lie and I'll tell
each one of them a different thing
And ever since I cut everybody out, it hasn't happened.
But I tell everybody a different lie and see if it'll come out.
Did it?
No, since I cut everybody out, no.
What did you before?
Oh, yeah.
So now what if one of them comes to you like, you're a shitty liar?
And I know that he lied to me.
I don't want to fuck with you because you're a lie.
Why it's not like that?
What if his friend is that white?
I think they would understand.
I think that's what I love about, you know, the people I have around.
Like, they just love me.
And they're here for me, good or bad.
You know, these were also people who when no one was talking to me
and I was told my shit was over, they were like,
hey, you want to just go get food, go hang out.
And it fucked me up so much.
I didn't know how to, I was like, I'm out right now.
Like, I'm not, I don't have anything to offer.
And they were like, yeah, so we're friends.
Go eat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So those were people who showed up for me.
Real question.
Yeah.
Are you happy now?
I am really happy.
Okay.
Yeah, it's a, it's a thing you've got to work on all the time
because once you're happy, like,
it's like that's when the real work starts.
Yeah.
Because you got to maintain it and do a lot of maintenance,
but, like, I'm in a really good place, finally,
where I'm not, like, line.
Well, I feel like I've always been pretty honest about how I feel,
but, like, I'm not, like, putting on a...
Right.
Yeah, I'm just like, I'm okay, you know, so...
I'll take it.
I'll take me.
I just want to be mid.
all the time.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it's good.
Mid is good.
Yeah.
Mid is very good, so I'm just...
Unless you're smoking it, then it's trash.
Yeah, but when you...
Is it weed?
This is why I quit weed.
It's too strong.
Nowadays.
Now it is.
There's a comedian that,
the hell is the name,
Dust, I think it's Dusty Slay.
I was watching a special, very funny guy,
but he was like, he did this joke where he's like,
I've done milder acid than some weed.
I've smoked today, and I agree.
Damn.
We used to just be, smoke weed, and then, like, music would be insane.
Mm-hmm.
And, you know, like, movies or whatever would be more fun to watch, maybe a little funnier.
Now you smoke weed and you're, like, having an existential crisis.
There's no reason for edible to be 65 milligrams.
Yeah, well, I was 100.
Yeah, that's the one I just got, if you break it up in small pieces.
I ain't got time, but I'm like, that's...
Because you take them and then you'd be like, what is happening to me?
It's bananas to me.
And when I was in rehab, the last time,
most of the young people in there
were all in there, but weed.
Because there's this study that's going to come out
that they showed me.
So weed used to be like 2 to 4% THC.
Yeah.
Right?
So you get a little high.
Sometimes it'd be a little good.
It'd be like six.
The average weed you get at a weed store, 19%.
Yeah.
So it's just like, and that's the lowest.
Everyone's putting butter on it and all this goo.
Yeah.
and all this crazy shit.
I never knew that THC was only two to four.
Yeah, that was super...
No, no, it's not.
I'm killing myself.
I had, like, psychosis.
I was, because I was a daily, all-day sort of guy,
and I got psychosis where you, like, hear voices and, like, you don't...
You feel like you're sitting next to yourself.
And we's not supposed to do that.
No.
And it's because it's too strong.
So, you're out there.
Because I ain't gonna lie.
I rolled a nice-ass blunt and watched bodies, bodies,
bodies shorty that is my shit oh thank you that's a fun one it's a fun it's a very
underrated film hilarious i think it's a silly goose film i like it though do you feel your
cop i was gonna say you're talking about being happy i know you got your baby on the way yes thank
congratulations daddy roustache thank you i couldn't be more excited yeah i saw you say that this
is going to be the best role you've ever played yeah i mean uh it's uh it's the only thing i've ever
felt since when I was young and my dad passed I remember or I used my mom used to be like
what do you want to be when you grow up and I used to be like a dad I always wanted to be a dad
because I felt so crappy and I wanted to like make sure that a kid didn't feel that way
or have to go through like what I went through and then when my girl told me she was pregnant
I felt exactly how I felt when I was like seven or eight years old and it was so nice because
you know when you're little and you're like I want to be an astronaut or like I want to be whatever like
a lot of that stuff fizzled out, but I felt the exact excitement that I felt when I was little
and I couldn't be more stoked. It's going to be fun. Your decision to share the news and all the
things just because of how much it sounds like you went through with just like your own battles
with media and all that. Why share the news? Well, they knew for a while and they were being cool
because, you know, they found out, I think someone saw us going into a doctor's office or something
like real early on and then it was like it was super stressful because one I would ideally
like no one to know anything and I would just like to be a normal human and be able to enjoy that
process with my lady and yeah it became super stressful because one as you know when you have a baby
you don't know if you're actually having one for a while until you make it to a certain
point and then it's healthy and so they found out way before that and luckily the outlets that
found out were super cool and for the first time ever in my life and i felt very lucky they were just
like you know we'll give you two three months and then that's still shitty though yeah that's
Fuck you.
Well, I have them would just post the shit.
No, some of them would be like, fuck you.
That's how fucked up the world is where I'm like, they're being really nice.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, what a nice outlet.
I've felt worse.
I feel bad for my girl because all of this, like, I bring a lot of shit.
Like anything we do or she does now is going to be a thing.
And I feel really bad because.
One, I don't like it either.
I consider myself a private person
that's just stuck in that cycle.
She's a very private person,
and this is her...
She's the one going through the...
Yeah, she's the one doing all the work, you know?
And it's supposed to be a beautiful experience.
And, like, I...
She's never made me feel this way
or said anything,
but, like, I feel so guilty
and horrible that, like, in any way, shape or form,
I could not allow her to have the ideal pregnancy
that almost every woman gets to have it and joy.
So luckily, she loves me and knows what comes with me,
and we've talked about it before we, you know, fully were in a relationship.
But, like, I really feel shitty for her in that aspect
that like you know she don't want to post that like you know first of all anyone that
does that shit you know you see that you're like this is corny yeah you see the like
they're like you know the ultrasound you know but we were not given a choice and they
they held it off as long as we could and luckily my girl's really funny and she posted a good
funny caption i think those people going to hell i really do because i think that's so shitty if
your girl is pregnant you you and her she
be able to tell your friends and your family
on your turn. We couldn't tell anyone.
You know, and what you said earlier is true, too.
What if it's a difficult pregnancy?
Yeah. And she may not want it exposed it because anything can happen.
One in three, one and three don't.
That's what I'm saying.
They don't go through, you know.
I'm not an honorable of them.
Also, fuckheads, you're putting tremendous stress on my girl who needs to carry
that like, it's like that does a lot to a person.
We couldn't tell anybody.
Just my mom.
and like you know a couple people and then like i couldn't tell like my uncles because you know they might be at the
water cooler and be like you know like that in every family yeah they might ruin everything you know
or so you know my grandpa who i love to death you know he just he goes to like diners and be like
i'll have a pl t do you know who my grandson is and then you know uh so it took a it took a it's
took away a lot of normal experiences that we would like to have,
but we are very happy, very excited.
I love that.
And the fact that you are aware of that, yo.
You got some dads who just are just not,
or, you know, some boyfriend's husbands who are just not aware
of what the woman goes through.
And it's not their fault all the time
because they're not women, they don't get it,
but you get it.
Like, you know, so she's a lucky girl,
you're a lucky guy.
Oh, thank you.
And I think that's very admirable of you.
Thank you.
It's no joke, like, it's no joke,
what ladies have to go through with the pregnancy.
I do not envy them at all.
They are magical heroes.
It's crazy.
Yes, we are, thank you.
It's crazy sitting here with you
and hearing you talk about, like, the other side of it,
like, in reporting the news
and then hearing you talk about, like,
what it felt like and how it impacted you,
it's so, like, I'm sitting here, like, you know, that's different.
It's also like, man, like,
because you're living your life every day
and it's news to people,
but, like, you're really living this life every day.
You don't realize people are humans?
I mean, you do, but I think it's so different.
She's the way of TMZ.
Yeah, and we covered you every minute of your life.
Like, I could go down the timeline of stories.
And hearing you talk about how it affected you in private and sometimes you would talk about it.
It's just so, like, I'm sitting here like, dang, that's kind of messed up.
Well, it's also like, it's also like, you know, like, looking at like what the Bebes is going through.
It's like, leave that fucking kid alone.
I know.
I get so pissed every time.
Leave the fucking kid alone.
Yeah.
he had a kid he's married just trying to fucking like all you should care about that he does is music or like you know yeah if he fucking kill somebody or something yeah can't report it but like leave the kid alone and yeah it's it sucks like there there becomes a point where you're like well i guess that's their job and then you're like yeah but it's it's it's fucking it's hard to to live like that it's hard to it's hard to because then you're you you
Like, for example, we'll be like, should we go out to eat?
And it's like, well, there's going to be a lot of people there.
And then, you know, someone has a phone and then sends it to like whatever.
And, like, you just want to be on a date.
And it's like, man, I don't want to think like that.
I get, I can see all the sides because there's people that I'd be like,
I don't feel sorry for him.
He's rich, he's young, he's banging a bunch of hot chicks, like, you know what I mean?
All right.
But then on the flip side, it's like.
On paper.
On paper.
On paper.
Yes.
On the flip side, think about all the things you have to give up as a, just a human.
Yeah.
And then you've got to move a certain way.
Like, yeah, like, I do well, but, like, then you got to get security.
You got to go to the airport a certain way.
You got to travel a certain way.
You got to get a PR guy.
It's like, it's a lot, dude.
It's exhausting, you know.
But, again, I'm very lucky.
I am happy.
And I can tell you're happy.
I can look at you and tell you.
Thank you.
The pickup is out right now.
If you haven't seen it go see it's currently number two in U.S. on Prime Video.
And thank you for joining us, Pia.
Hey, thanks for having me.
I've washed sweatpants for you, so.
And with this, if people look back on your career in 20 years,
what do you hope they say about who you were, as an artist and person?
I hope it's like, I don't want to compare it, and I'm not this guy,
and I will not have the same career this guy had.
But I hope it's, like, Downey-like, where they're like, you don't remember.
I didn't even know, because he's just Iron Man to me.
and more than that
but he's just a fantastic actor to me
but like there was a time where his career
was over he was broke in jail
and there were articles like he's
doing crack in jail and all this crazy shit
and he turned his whole life around
so I hope people will be like
oh wow he turned it around
because there's two ways
all this shit could go and I remember when I was
very close to
like not being here because of drug wise
I was like it would be so
Pete Day
of you to overdose and die.
That's such an expected headline.
That's so corny.
Like, that's exactly what everyone thinks.
I was like, wouldn't it be really cool if you, like, grew a mustache
and turned it around and became a man?
Like, wouldn't be cool if, like, for one time
and you're like, people are like, oh, Pete's okay.
He's a dude.
He's just a dude.
And I hope all this shit just, you know, but also it takes repetition.
Like, it's not like you just,
like you just do 10 years of that and then you do one press sort it's like oh pizza you know
it's gonna i have to do 10 plus years and keep this going now but i hope people look back and
they're like oh wow he turned it around but you do a lot of work is the work that they don't see
like you know what they don't know the work that you have put in to be what would to be the
version of yourself now thank you it is tough but yeah it's worth it it's worth it and it's necessary
like you gotta grow you know when you're doing drugs of your 30s it's just not cute like there's no excuses really and at a certain point you just you gotta you all have to grow always evolve you're always evolving yeah you always doing personal work and you just want to be the best person you can be so I hope people see that
yeah Pete Davidson that's right now we'll be a new movie to pick up out right now and we appreciate you for joining us thanks for having me
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