The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Porsha Williams Dishes On Divorce, Nene Leakes, Kenya Moore Exiting RHOA + More

Episode Date: March 5, 2025

The Breakfast Club Sits down With Porsha Williams To Discuss Her Divorce, Nene Leakes, Kenya Moore Exiting RHOA. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Morning everybody. It's DJ, Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are the Breakfast Club, Lauren LaRosa filling in for Jess, and we got a special guest in the building. Capital P! Horsha is back, Horsha Williams, welcome! What's good? How you feeling? I'm feeling good, I was just saying,

coming here this time of the morning, this is it. This is 9, 10, this is good. You can do that, you can't do the 5, 6 in the morning. The 5.30, whoo! Yeah, when I was guest hosting with y'all. Yeah. I love you. Oh, I love you too.

I love you on the show. Why, is her name Lauren, like your sister? Yes, I love me a good Lauren. Lauren, Lauren, yes. Lauren's are special people. They really are. I was just saying this morning how many I have. My assistant is Lauren.

Lauren, we have another stylist, Lauren. It's just Lauren's everywhere. Lauren's everywhere. You look rich. Thank you. Thank you. You giving glow, giving money. The spirit is giving rich, honey. The spirit is giving rich.

Back on Housewives. Yes. Who would have thought? Three years away from the show and now I'm back. It's really exciting to be honest with you. You know, like, each season when it comes, you never know what to expect. Like, am I excited?

I mean, it's like, you know, feels like a job. But being away three years and coming back is really good for me because I get to see everybody who I had not seen on the show. You know, the fans are back, Housewife fans are back. And I don't know, it's just a big turn of events. You know, like when I first decided to come back to the show, I was like happily married. Like, Ooh, I'm about to really show y'all something.

Storyline gonna be extra popping. You post that Valentine's day photo and was downhill from there. Okay, all that. You're about to have the documented Instagram post. But, um, yeah, it was, it was, it was like that. But as life is, you know, turn of events, it's not always perfect. And so by the time we started filming, that's when the real storyline started. So what happened now, though? Because you get a lot of money for shit.

It's not like you need to be on Real Housewives of Atlanta. God has, you know what? God has really been good to me three years away from reality TV. I was like, you know somebody getting money. God is good to me. He's been good. Really good to me.

OK, in spite of, OK? But no, you know, I have a certain relationship with my fans. I've been doing a show for 10 years, and they're really not fans. I call them supporters, because they've been with me through everything, a divorce, giving birth to Pilar on TV,

like ups and downs of life. And so, you know, I really felt like at the time it was gonna be great to share my life, my happily married life, you know, I really felt like at the time it was gonna be great to share my life, my happily married life, you know, but one thing about me and my fans is do respect, I'm transparent. So even though it didn't turn out the story that I wanted to share,

I still was open with what I had. I was saying before you walked in, and your team wanted me to tell you too, don't forget your coat, pull it down. It shifts up when you sit down. Oh, okay, okay. But before you walked in, I was saying that I've never met you before but from Instagram to the show you just seem like my homegirl like I want to drink with you I

want to party with you I know so much about you because you are very transparent I remember when you did the family like the family series it was kind of similar where you were so excited to show things and then it just went left and now we're here with the marriage stuff. Well, I tend to put different mixes in the soup. Maybe I can't cook, because why would I have put my fiance and my baby daddy on the same show? So yeah, but it makes for great TV. I mean, even the time I had away from TV,

my sister and I will always say, damn, we wish it was cameras here. You know what I mean? Because it's just, some people are just like that. And I've always been the type of person to use my life as a testimony. So even though it's difficult for people to show their lives and talk about it, I get healing from it, you know, from meeting people to say, Oh, I can relate to that.

Or I made some crazy mistakes in love, too. Or I believed in Negro one time, too. Like, girl, that all helps you process things. So let's let's I want to know. Let's start with the divorce, right? Oh, let's do. People automatically assume. Right.

Top of the morning. People assumed it was infidelity, but you know, in the first episode, you talk about you would go to the airport and you would always get pulled to the side. And you got to the point, you was like, why the hell do we keep getting pulled to the side? Right, right, right.

Did you call ICE on Simon? No, no, it doesn't benefit me at all for him to be locked up. Mentally and financially, it doesn't benefit me. You know, just because you're going through a divorce doesn't mean you hate someone. I hate actions, I hate lies, I hate a lot of characteristics, but I love the person, you know, and I would never wish harm on anybody.

And at the end of the day, I know that he's a hard person, he's a slithering snake. He's gonna find his way out of it, I'm sure he harm on anybody. And at the end of the day, I know that he's the type of person, he's a slithering snake. He's gonna find his way out of it. I'm sure he'll be fine. You know, and I pray for him and his family and I hope they all figure it out. But I called him. No, you called him a snake, but the snake got you.

Yeah, they do. They get around you and they hold real, real tight. They hold real, real, real tight. But that's also me. I mean, I love love. And when I meet someone, I'm a cancer. And when I meet someone who reciprocates that, nothing else really matters.

It's how you make me feel. I'm very intentional. So if your intentions towards me feel authentic and it feels real, I'm gonna trust that. And that's just how I live my life experience. I do wanna say though, Portia, you are a beautiful woman. Thank you. So I can see why a man would want to be in this country illegally to be with you.

So do you feel like it's kind of your fault? Just a little? I think it's the country's fault. I think he's having a whole issue that started before I was even born that unfortunately it's just come to the shit didn't hit the fan. It just is what it is. So where is it at right now? Because last like the last reports were like he's detained, the assistantship was denied. Like so where is he physically? And like what is like what's happening right now? So I only know as much as you guys know and as much as what's online. As far as I know

they've been posting that he's still being detained. So in Georgia, I'm not sure I haven't looked into it that much. I just know I'm trying to finish my divorce and I can't do that if I don't have a person to divorce. So we need to be in court. Yeah. Well, you know, he wanted to have our last court date, which was just a couple weeks, a week ago, he asked for it to be in person. I didn't want it to be in person

because I knew this whole thing. When I got enlightened about the whole thing. What you mean you knew this whole thing so you did call us? No, I knew that he already had a peculiar situation with the United States of America. And so it wasn't gonna benefit me or him for it to be in person.

We had already done a year's worth of the divorce over Zoom. So why in person? Why are you fighting for that? Girl, you would have showed up looking just like that too. Who, me? Takora? Oh, well, you know, you got to give him that last look. You would have.

Dang. Wow. Period. Now I don't want the divorce. It's too late now. You got nothing to do. Now you also filed that he didn't want you to record in the house?

Yes. Yes. So I did. But it was your house. Yes our house. So, I mean I know he's explained it a thousand different ways online He has documented our entire divorce on the Simon show online and then I have the housewives I suppose but um, yeah There is paperwork in place that would make it a marital property 50-50 split outside of that being enforced It is a pre marital property or whatever But um, you know, I am on the other side of this like we've been divorcing now through this process for a whole year and You know, I've emotionally it's caught up with what I had to do. So like emotionally, I feel like I'm ready to be done with it. I'm ready to heal, ready to move on. Um, but you know, here comes the reality show.

So here's the part of my life where it gets interesting. I'm done with the divorce, but I had to deal with it. All the darkness on camera. It comes right back. Yeah. And so now it has to come back. So now I have to be super prayed up. I have to be super, um, vigilant of who I have to come back. So now I have to be super prayed up. I have to be super

Vigilant of who's around me of energies I have to be very protective of my piece at this point because I know what I'm getting into more than any other season Right this season could affect me more than any other and girl. This is your season Like I mean you've always been like you Kenya Nene candy y'all are the og girls Yeah, right now. I think we're all excited because you have been away from the show. We know that Kenya eventually exits, Nini's not there, Candy's not there. So it's like, we are looking for you

to bring back how it used to feel. So there's so many eyes and people are gonna critique it so much. So like, what's the daily mantra with filming? Because these girls are not, they're not always gonna give you that protected piece that you're talking about. Well no, cause I just met a couple of them.

The show started with BS. They ain't know me too, protect me. It was like, hang on, who you stole? I was like, what? So, you know, for me, I came back into this kind of feeling brand new, not gonna lie. Like three years is a really long time from having cameras in your life on a daily basis.

I was looking into the damn camera lens for most of the time. I was getting stumbling over words. It was like brand new Porsche all over again. And then I just said, you know what, I talked to the producer. So this was collaborative. Me coming back, a big part of me coming back was collaborative. We had conversations, my husband or estranged husband and production about how I wanted to be and how I asked them to be was completely honest. I asked them, can I break the fourth wall?

Fourth wall on reality TV is saying I'm late because I had to film at my mom's house because it's a cease and desist on my crib. You know what I'm saying? So I told them, I said, listen, the only way I can do this is to just speak my truth and be 100% honest. You can edit what you got to do later. Right. But for me to get through this at this dark time and losing, like, my person, I have to be as honest

as I possibly can. And they agree to that. And I feel like they stuck with that. You know, I got to see the show. But I feel like they stuck to letting me just live authentically. Did you see the first episode? I did see the first episode.

I did. What did you think? Because I feel like they got you walking into BS. Like they show this whole grand thing and you're working on this. You go into the attorney, you're doing everything. Then you walk right into the bullshit. Kelly. It's like, why does she say that? Ladies man, husband, whatever. Kelly is, she's one of the new girls She owns a waffle business. Mm-hmm and

Yeah I mean listen Real Housewives of Atlanta has never really let brand new people possible fans of the show be housewife first season They normally play friends for a little bit, then become a housewife. So when you have people who, she can be queen bee of wherever she's from, but you still feel like you have to act a certain way

to be on Housewives. And I think that's what that moment was. Because at the end of the day, who doesn't know the story of me and Simon? Who doesn't know what actually really happened with that enough to say who stole who? Who stole what? Like, you know, so I just felt like she was wanted to have a moment and I was dismissive of it like a little delayed little delayed

wasn't that wacky the producers to do no that's what I'm trying to tell you so this season the producers did not over produce us they really didn't and that's from the start no no it really it really didn't. And that's again- They had to from the start. No, no. It really wasn't. Like she felt that way. She felt like she wanted to ask me that and she wanted to have a moment. But you look whack doing that.

And she eventually straightens up. But you know, she had to, you know, as a new girl, she coming in thinking, I ain't gonna make it. I ain't gonna come for Portia. It doesn't seem like you two find over still after she straightened up, by the way. We have a love and hate relationship. We have like the, we are literally like, what is it, oil and water?

Oil and vinegar. Is it vinegar too? Oil and vinegar, oil and vinegar. Maybe they don't none of them match, but baby, me and her, we kinda up and down with it. It's not hateful. So y'all make up, cause during that little party, you were like, I don't wanna say little party,

but during that party, you was kinda like. I don't want to look like but during that party I think she and I argue a lot But I don't know if it's gonna look as hateful as my arguments have been in the past If you've known my history on the show when when why I keep on a cut so much this morning Now when people with people, with people, with women. Used to come here on the show, I used to beef with them the whole season and it got so dark. This season does not go that dark.

We have funny moments, we talk about each other, we kiki and yes we argue, but it's not enough to break sisterhoods. Gotcha. I saw Dr. Simone Whitmore call you a mean girl. Why'd she say that about you, capital P? You so nice. I don't know.

I don't know. I couldn't really understand what she was saying. I think Simone is reaching that straws. I mean, I don't know. I think Simone is full of it, just like that piece of doo-doo she had on her head. Like she just, to me, she on her show, sometimes when you're on reality TV, right,

she's an OB-GYN. She started on the show and you know, she was a regular person and now on the camera. Sometimes when you start lacking in story, you start lacking as a person individually, you start just reaching and coming at bitches who are on point. So she's lacking.

So when people lack, they try to deflect and come to you. I've never even met this person. I didn't see Mean Girl in the first episode. I've never even met this person. I wasn't Mean Girl. You never even met her? I've never even met her. Oh wow. But I've never met her.

I will say, I think a lot, even if you've never met her, because of, like, it's been a lot of seasons of Real Housewives of Atlanta, and we all feel like we know you guys, so maybe that's what she felt. I don't think you give Mean Girl. No, I think you give Mean Girl. No, I think Mean Girl.

But you can definitely get with a bit. Like, you can, you hold your own hold your own if you knock on my buck Yeah, you definitely do but that's the old Porsche. I take that back. I don't do that no more right Lauren We're not gonna see that this season. I've been looking forward to it But if somebody's in you bucks, that's actually of God You got to defend yourself you have to defend yourself You gotta defend yourself. You have to defend yourself. She gonna use that in a special way.

I just like remember that real good. That was a guy. Yeah. No, I think Mean Girl is when you have a cast member who had a deaf in their family, and you are still hard on them. Sometimes you gotta know when someone needs a hug and not a lecture, and Simone does not have that sense at all. I just feel like she has been very mean and a little bit evil to some of her cast mates.

Yeah, I didn't get Mean Girl from the first episode. I got late. You was late. I was late. I just feel like she has been very mean and a little bit evil to some of her cast mates. Yeah, I didn't get mean girl from the first episode. I got late. You was late. I was late. I was late. I didn't get mean girl. I try not to be late, but again, logistics,

behind the scenes, things that you will see and things you don't know. I had to film at my mom's house because, you know, I couldn't film in my house at the time. And she lives out in Duluth, baby. And that was on a Friday in the rain. So wait, before we go to your question, you're talking about filming at your mom's house

in the house, because I saw online that you weren't awarded sole possession of the house. So I was. But you still can't film there. So I was. So no, here's the thing. I could film. I could do what I want in my house.

I could film like a whole part of my house. I could do what I want, right? Why you have to go there? I heard you. I don't know, maybe. You have to go there. I know. I ain't had none in in my house. I could film like a whole point on my house. I can do what I want, right? All right. I heard you. I don't know, maybe. You had to go there. I know, I ain't had none in a while, so I just had to think about it.

But okay, so I can do what I want in my house. However, he sent the cease and desist to Bravo. So when he sent that to Bravo, they don't wanna play with that, so I needed to get a separate document that said I can film in the house to give to them so they don't have to worry about him harassing them with legal things.

Right, gotcha. But can he send anything legally being that he's here illegally? Let me Google that. I'm not an immigration attorney. Yeah. I don't know. But if he has an attorney,

he can send whatever he wants. But I would think everything he sends is null and void. Yeah, but brav, I'm sure don't wanna fight that. Well, let's hope so. Right? Right. Right. I wanna ask you about the Simone thing because she said, I think she was, if I'm sure don't want to fight that. Well, let's hope so. I want to ask you about the Simone thing, because she said, I think she was,

if I'm not mistaken, correct me, Lauren, she was saying that Phaedra left her show to come back with you. Yeah, because they freaking frack. So it's like now the reunion of them as a friend, she was basically saying that. Freaking fracking over there to check was whack. Like, how fast paced very well.

Because I was going to ask you that, because Phaedra comes in later in the season. I'm like, was that switched because what, did you need the friend or like, did this money thing? We always need Phaedra. We always need Phaedra. I don't give a damn. We always need the legends of Real Housewives of Atlanta.

There's just certain situations to where we can't have some of them back. But if there was a, where there's a will, there's a way. I wanted to have Phaedra back. The cast wanted Phaedra back. And Bravo wanted her back in her home on Housewives. So what's Phaedra's Bravo, this check over here on Housewives looking like, because she left the whole other show.

Well, she done made that check in cash already. You can worry about a check you done already cashed? No. She done cashed that check. She coming to get this check. Heard you. Mm-hmm. Damn.

That answers your question? Checks everywhere. You said they what? Checks everywhere. Oh, yeah. Everywhere. Now how tight are you and Drew? Drew? You know what, Drew, some people you just Checks everywhere. You said they what? Checks everywhere. Oh yeah. Everywhere. Now how tight are you and Drew?

Drew? You know what Drew, some people you just realize okay, you just a little. Is she still an ambassador of Go Naked Hair? Absolutely not. Okay. Go Naked Hair is Portia's hair brand. I can't put my hair on people's head and then they think they're me. Like that's what I can't do.

Like that's what we not gonna do. You don't become Portia by wearing Portia's hair. You need to just enjoy my hair, take it out when it's dirty, and put it in back in when it's clean. You know, like you can't just like all that. She is a, she's a okay person, I think for a lot of her friends.

I think they love her. I think they trust her. I think if you're not her friend, you shouldn't trust her and you shouldn't be around her. Okay, so with you saying you shouldn't trust her, you shouldn't be around her, and she is not wearing go-necked hair anymore, you were not at all, and I saw it kind of in the first

episode, you're not happy about the allegations that she might be in a relationship or whatever with Dennis, your ex. See, this is why I like Breakfast Club. You ask the questions that need to be answered, okay? So here's the thing, on the show, I don't know how it's gonna come off again, cause the show has to sensationalize things, right?

So how good is it for me to be going through a divorce and I'm still jealous about my baby daddy? That's BS, right? So in real life, she actually was trying to film with him behind my back. And when you are- He's a music producer, right? That's what it said on the show, he's a music producer.

Yeah, we can start that portion. He's whatever he say he is. Okay, all right. Yes, he is. He is a serial entrepreneur and apparently a music producer. Music producer, right? Okay.

But she was trying to film with him behind my back and that's just not cool. Come on, we housewives. Well, wait, filming him on the show as a- Filming him on Housewives! So it's just not cool, right? It felt like a setup for me in some way. And then also there was a Go Naked photo shoot. She was trying to set up without me knowing anything about. I

have to prove everything. Some of them fits. It's not fitting for you. So, or some of them looks may not be given the look. So I would like to as the owner of the company be a part of any of that. So when those two things were happening behind my back on my business with my, on my show, yeah, I have a problem with you. So you didn't know Drew was recording with Dennis, you didn't know anything, you didn't know that they were speaking, you didn't know that they were talking.

No, I'm holding hands allegedly. Until that first episode. Holding hands at a club. That's what they said on that episode. I didn't know any of that, no. So you found out right there in that episode. What's so funny, I saw the episode, and she was like, she asked him, and I said yes, and she talked to me

And I said yes, and I'm like that's just not true like I genuinely didn't know look at the end of the day I like I told shimmya if drew and dennis want to get together I just hope she can do baby hair for palar like i'm happy with drew I think she's a great parent I think if him and her were to get together and they could have a solid relationship, that's good too. Just don't screw me where you asked me to come back to be. She had been asking me to come back to Housewives and when I came back, this is what you had waiting on me.

This whack storyline that y'all came up with. Yeah. So I see what you're saying now. So if it was real, you wouldn't have a problem with it? Of course not. I've never gotten, listen, everybody knows Dennis and I have a great co-parent relationship course not, I've never gotten, listen, everybody knows Dennis and I have a great co-parent relationship and it is strictly because

his personal life is his personal life and mine is mine. So he didn't say nothing to you at all either, you found out on the show so y'all didn't have no conversation. No, he ain't gonna tell me because he can benefit off me finding out on the show. Surprise! Yeah!

Surprise, surprise! Yeah, that's what he went on. I thought you and Dennis was homies though, to the point where like he would have called you like, yo P, this is what's happening. Like y'all seem like y'all have that really like a friendship still, no? Not about his personal life.

Oh wow. Yeah, not about his personal life. Now I found he is the one who called and invited me to her birthday party. That's what I was like, that's a little bit Caleer. Like, why are you inviting me to her birthday party? You know, I called her and I was like, oh I can't come you know I was like but Dennis invited me. Oh, yeah. I forgot to tell you about Dennis. Yeah, we're working together

You still love Dennis cool. Yes Yeah, not like, you know, please don't take that sound bite like that I mean, yes, as in that's my daughter's father and and I want the absolute best for him But do you love him like still let him sweat on you? You should have said sling hot dogs. Sweat on me? No. No.

And this has been a period of time, I've been divorcing a year, and a lot of people move fast even in their divorce time. I just don't see him in that way. I just don't. And I think because it's because of Pilar. You don't play with that. You know, I'm already going through a divorce

and she's already losing someone who she called a stepdad, papa, et cetera. I don't wanna play with her seeing me and her father be in a relationship and then break up. That's not responsible for me. So the love I have for her just causes me not even to be attracted to him in that way at all. Because I just don't, we have so many ups and downs,

our relationship can be toxic at times, and I just don't want to enter into that space with him. Y'all have a great relationship parenting, co-parenting. We have a good co-parenting. Well, I am single right now. So we're gonna see how it works out when I get somebody. Is that hard to find somebody though, Portia, because you are so high profile? Who?

Me? Yeah, for you. Because you're high profile, you're on TV, people may not want to be, they may not want their life involved in that. True. So certain caliber of people. I do tend to attract a lot of opportunists. So yes, the people who probably are opportunists

and who are in their own lane, doing their own thing, and don't wanna part of anything I have going on, probably tend to skew away from trying to date me. Which is the downside of being a reality star. But I just feel like at the end of the day right now, I can't even think about that. Like I can't even imagine me like being with someone else right now because I still have the energy of my husband around me. So when

that's done I think maybe the atmosphere will be like her king is coming. So you have to get a complete... Not an African king huh? Not an African king. But wait. You gotta get a complete divorce. I just wait. No I love African men. I was gonna say because because you know, I was just back in January. I know girl she got that top girl. That girl, that girl. You know how to follow somebody girl. You better follow me girl. Back in January, there was a video of you and the Nigerian guy. I don't know how you say his name Farouk.

Farouk. So that's not Bay? No, none at all. Was it Bay then? No, so the culture in Nigeria, you know, Nigeria is a great place. First of all, everybody should visit Nigeria. But when you are from outside of Nigeria and you come to Nigeria, it's best to have a host who is there, who knows everywhere you need to go.

Buckhead cannot be safe sometimes. Places in Nigeria may not be as safe sometimes for women on their own. So when I took Phaedra, I had a host. He was our host. So yes, I knew at the end of the day when I saw him on the vlogs, I was like, I can't help them thinking that because I am with him for breakfast.

I'm gonna be with him at dinners. We're gonna go to lounges. We're at all the clubs because he is the person who is showing me around everywhere. And it was a kiss on the cheek too. He kissed all his friends on the cheek. He had a lot of friends he was kissing on cheek. I'm just saying that's why the people was like, oh, this is her man.

Yeah, but you know, I'm not that young anymore. I can't really be the type of girl that see you with other women. Like, once I lock on you, we locked in. So, you know, he's still young and he's still doing his thing. He's one of the big guys out there. But I don't I don't share. It's interesting to see that narrative, because I think at one point,

especially when you first met Dennis on the show, they tried to make it seem like you were just like this careless, like dating whoever, whenever, whatever type of person. And it sounds like now you as a mom, and where you are now, it's like a lot more protective of your space, especially because of your kids.

So I'm interested to see how that plays out on the show. You know, it's unfortunate. We want women to be soft. We want women to be open to love. We want women to love, love, and give men a chance. But the women who do that, we get beat on. They drag you. Yeah.

You know, everybody's upset with like a JLo or a Kim Kardashian or Elizabeth Taylor. But we want men who treat us well. We want men who are going to love us and who we believe we can love back. But why isn't, why aren't we empowered to be able to walk away if it's not right? Right. So wouldn't that mean I would be dating or be with multiple people over my life? So, you know, it's, it's rough as a woman out here. You just have to have thick skin and trust yourself and make good decisions. If I was dating somebody and that was my guy, trust me, everybody knows, I will claim him, post him and all of that and make you sick about it. But every relationship

don't have to be public either though. It doesn't, it doesn't. But you know, I don claim him, post him, and all of that. Make you sick about it. But every relationship don't have to be public either though. It doesn't, it doesn't. But you know, I don't know, I guess it's the cancer in me or the Nigerian in me. Like I'm loud with it. Like if I love you, I want everybody to know, you know? So I'm really gonna have to talk to my therapist because I think my next one should be quiet.

You said something that was interesting. You said that you can't get the energy of Simon off you. What makes you get the energy of a person off you? Lauren got saved, your sister got to save you. Did she get? She could, she could, but this divorce, it's gonna take some time. It's gonna take time.

To the public, our relationship was so sensationalized that I don't think they saw it as a real relationship, but I genuinely did love my husband and I had all kinds of plans. If you have ever been married on a long-term relationship, everything you do, you're considering that person. They're a part of it. So everything I'm still doing,

I'm having to piece him out of it, you know? And I'm still in our home. I would like to redecorate or do whatever, but I gotta still wait to see what's gonna happen with that. He and I, stop in our home. I would like to redecorate or do whatever, but I gotta still wait to see what's gonna happen with that. He and I, stop talking about Simon. This is not true. You wrote this, is this true?

What you mean? I don't know. Is this true? We don't even know what this is. I don't know, they just handed me that. What does it say? This can't be real. They just handed me that. I have no idea.

Wow. Okay, so Lauren, look at that. What is happening? We need to, you need to call. You need to call. Yeah. Sorry. I'm just playing. I made that up. What?

What happened? What did I say? You scared me. You're not so good. What does it say now? What does it say? Read that. I was going to let it go. I was going to let it go until you said you were going to call.

Insane. I'm getting a percussions. I was gonna let it go till you said you were called. It's insane! I was like, I'm gonna push her. I was like, yo! So let me tell you what the letter says. I was scared to my death. I really didn't know what to say. So here's the letter. So what Charlemagne put together. And let me tell you, before the interview, he didn't tell none of us, right? I thought it was something with me.

We just seen him laughing and giggling, so we knew he was up to something. But he even planned it because he had somebody walk it in the letter the letter says The Porsche I kept it just in case because I knew he was playing I don't want nothing to happen to him. I don't want I don't even want him to port it like at the end of the day There's just like a lot of people out there that are like, oh my god, I'm gonna throw it at him I'm gonna throw it at him I'm gonna throw it at him I'm gonna throw it at him I'm gonna throw it at him

I'm gonna throw it at him I'm gonna throw it at him I'm gonna throw it at him I'm gonna throw it at him I'm gonna throw it at him I don't want nothing to happen to him. I don't want, I don't even want him deported like at the end of the day. That shit scared me.

I was like. Mr. Mental Health just threw you off. What you mean? Right, you disrupted me. But you looked at me like, do you know what I'm doing? I don't know what's going on. You're disrupting my peace. You're all about protecting peace.

I really thought something happened to somebody cause you look like you were about to cry. Yeah. All right, woo-sah, woo-sah. That's crying to cry. Yeah. All right, wusa, wusa. Back to the show, back to the show. There was a lot of men that were happy that that happened to him though. There were?

Yes. Because how do you feel about you? Because they went home. Well, and that's the scary part about being online, like going in on a personality that people actually like. You don't know who could have done anything. You know what I mean? You just don't know.

But honestly, I don't think anybody did anything to him. I think that sometimes actions just kind of end up where it is. Were you upset that he didn't tell you that he was facing all of this? Or that he'd been dealing with this for years? I mean, I filed for divorce. You know, I just feel like in any relationship, especially mine, I thought we had the Hey, it's a Martinez. The news can feel like a lot on any given day. But you can't just ignore La Noticias when important world changing events are happening.

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And so people will look at him and look at me and be like, I don't understand the correlation. It must be the money. How? I already had a lot of the stuff that I have now. Then anyway, it was meeting someone who really saw you for you, who you can talk to, who was a man of their word. He always did things that I felt made him trustworthy for me. If somebody says something and they do it, say it, do it, say it, do it. Why would I think? I would have never believed any of this stuff.

Like I stood ten toes down to the very, very end, but you know I worked very hard in my life for what I have. I worked to protect my daughter's future, her financial future, her emotional future, everything, and at the time, I needed to do that in order to protect that. Not saying it couldn't have been turned around if we had better communication, but at that time, I had to do it,

I had to stand on it. If he would have told you what the situation was, you would have? I begged, I begged to do it. Had to stand on it. If he would have told you what the situation was, you would have. I begged. I begged to tell me. I literally begged. When did you find out? What was the time of it?

My sister's sitting right here. She knows nothing could have made me leave Simon. He was my person. And he probably is. He's just not honest enough to stand next to me. He probably was scared to tell you because he thought she was gonna leave. Yeah, I can love him from afar.

Did that happen to the conversation? Why? Why he didn't say it? Yeah. Well, if you're the type of person, I mean, if you're not telling even yourself the truth, how are you going to tell me? What was the timeline?

You said you begged. So like, how many, before you filed for divorce, how long was it that you were like trying to have these conversations, trying to get out of them, trying to just be like, yo, I want to know what's happening. Like I want to save this. I want to figure it out. Well, I didn't just, it was the accumulation of things.

It wasn't just, oh, I found out that you could be deported. Because at the end of the day, I was telling my people I can take the kids wherever he is. Like I'm a ride or die. I can take them wherever you are. I love to travel anyway. We love to travel. It's not necessary for him to be here.

And honestly, I thought we had enough money where we could live in Dubai, we could live wherever. So being deported wasn't that the deal breaker. It was the other things about his past that I didn't know about. It was things I was beginning to be involved in that could have had me. In trouble.

Clank clank, you know what I'm saying? So I just felt like this is something I need to do until maybe this will trigger you. Sometimes women or men will file for divorce to trigger the truth out of their spouse. Because for whatever reason, they don't think they can tell them. But you almost wanna say,

well you'll lose me if you don't. You'll lose me if you don't tell me. And in this case, it still wasn't enough. Also when you first initially filed for divorce, you just wanted him to tell you the truth. I just wanted the truth. Wow. I wanted to know what was happening.

You can figure out, from my first marriage, I learned that a partnership is something that you can take for life. You know that with your wife and with your wife. If you have a partner standing next to you, you can fight and deal with anything. Forget love, just the fact that both of you guys are in the midst of it together. But as soon as I realized in my first marriage that I was not a partner, I was underneath. I was with someone who wasn't gonna be everything I needed them to be as a

partner or see me as a partner. I knew that in this relationship I wasn't gonna do that. I would never have gotten married again if I thought him and I were not best friends, side by side partners. I honestly wish in a different realm I could be sitting here fighting for him as opposed to fighting him. You know, a divorce is like a death in the family. And for me, who wants to experience that?

But now, I wanna go Kenyon Moore. The fact that she was taken off the show, what are your thoughts on that whole incident that happened? On the whole incident that happened. I think it is I think it just went too far I feel like Kenya came back this season and she definitely will not even this season I cuz I don't know what she was doing past three because I don't see it Right, but the Kenya that I saw this season was not wanting beef and drama too much. She really wasn't on too much of that. Like you can even see that in the

first episode. She really kind of chill with it. Not her normal self. And I just feel like mixed with the newbie and some things that were said that were dangerous from the newbie. I felt like Kenya then decided to be even more dangerous. But I do feel like there's a space where there could be a conversation with her in Bravo. I feel like there could be a conversation with her in Brit. Hopefully they can figure something out by next season. What happened when y'all shot the upsharves? Because we had NeNe up here and she said you blocked her from being on the upshaws.

No, she did it. She did the show. Oh, you wouldn't do it with her? So no, it's not that I wouldn't do it with her. So I signed on to do the upshaws, and I had just filed, I think, could have even been a week and a half prior. So you know how you sign up.

So mind y'all, when I filed for divorce, I did not know I was filing for divorce. I was happily in love with my husband, like we were good. Valentine's Day we had a horrible argument, things got really nasty, and I knew something was about to hit the fan, but I did not know. So when it happened, I had already signed up to do the show,

and I really couldn't cancel at that point. So when I got there, I just was sitting in the green room or the waiting area and I just like start breaking down. I just start breaking down and then I started, then she was in the room next to me and I heard, just hearing her voice broke me down because I just felt you, when you're going through the room she just feels so alone and here I am just a foul coming out of my room I mean

I could barely put on makeup and now here I am on a set with strangers I don't have anybody just hearing her voice just it was just too familiar and you know I had not talked to her I didn't know how I could face her I didn't know how I could face anybody so it genuinely wasn't me saying no I don't know how I could face her. I didn't know how I could face anybody. So it genuinely wasn't me saying, no, I don't work with this person or that person, whomever, because I agreed to it. I just wasn't capable of doing it that day. Mentally and emotionally.

Mentally and emotionally. I could not gather myself at all. So when I spoke to them, they were like, I understand you're not going to be able to act as a housewife today. They ended up letting me go home. And then they said, we'll fill you in, we'll fill in your spot with Cynthia.

And then after that, in true Nini fashion, she just turned it into something about herself. And it genuinely wasn't about her. It was about me. You know what I'm saying? Like her actions of like taking Simon's side and hanging out with him with women or whatever they were doing It just really was null and void to me. I just would have wanted a friend So it you know for her to turn it and make it like I tried to block her money or whatever me block Nene's money how like Nene's a star. I can't block your money. Just like nobody can block mine. I'll give them who you are

So it to me is just unfortunate. I'm too grown. I'm sure y'all can see I'm a different Portia. If I was another Portia, I'd be reading her and her wig or whatever, but I don't feel that way. Like I feel like we grown people. Girl, you know how it is to go through a divorce. You know exactly what emotions I could have been feeling. So all the extra-ness is just not needed.

I only want real. Why couldn't y'all? She said that Portia wasn't here for her, right? Portia wasn't there for her when she was going through, when she was grieving? That's not true. I was out of town and flew in for her husband's funeral. No, I'm there for my friends.

I don't think she said that. And if she said that, I think she would retract that, because that's just not true. I'm always there for her, maybe even more than she was there for me. I didn't get a phone call from her when she saw on the news about my divorce. You know, she was with him, which is fine. Cause in a divorce, you're going to pick a side. You're going to pick a side.

We had a lot of friends as a couple. I'm an introvert, but as a couple, we were extroverts. We were out there. We had, you know, we would hang out with couples and travel with couples, but you know, and so then when it breaks up, up you can't I can't judge if she wanted to go over there who knows She may think he right and I'm wrong. It is what it is. How was your relationship? I know she may as your best friend, but how was that dynamic right because you know I seen on the show she was like your ex or your husband your ex-husband. I should say text her How is it that it still stays in the system that gotta be a problem. I don't know where that Text came from to her or her calling him, bro. I I don't know

I don't know but at that time of going through a divorce I don't even have the mind space to think about it. Like you really think I'm gonna go home and think about huh Why was he texting her and congratulating her and she called him bro? Like no You you are literally just walking through life Like you are getting up going through your day and honestly a part of the show is work y'all like it's work So I'm clocked in I'm not sitting there, you know thinking she's trying to do anything to me Thinking anything behind any of it. I don't think she was trying to do I just it just got to be a constant reminder like I'm trying to get my own space. Like, leave that on the other side, you know?

But I'm on a show that's about my life. So I am expecting them to talk about it. I am expecting them to ask me about my divorce and him. And I am expecting that. So that was totally fine. Are y'all, like, at this point, what are you and Shemeah as close as we've always known y'all to be?

Because the first episode kind of gives that, you know, Shemeah is now coming into herself on the show and There might be a little bit of tension because of that there was a moment where she's like, okay Like this is my new car girl get to the left. It's not about you right now. Yeah, that was a little weird I was like, oh, I never really seen that from Shemeah and yeah, it was weird But also, you know, it's the whole environment I mean in true housewife fashion who doesn't love to talk crap about the person who's late and make them look bad or whatever?

No one knew the reason why I was really late. I mean, I didn't get to tell her till we were in the closet while I was late. And at the end of the day, I did walk up while she was enjoying her car, but in my brain, as my best friend, I'm like, oh, we both bout to twerk on the car. Like, bitch, you finally did it.

Like, you got that Rolls Royce. Like, so I thought, you know how you go to a party and you're like, I don't want to miss them getting a birthday song. I don't want to miss them cutting the cake. Yeah. So the production was trying to tell me, Portia, hold on. Don't walk up to her while she's doing. I said, no, no, no, no, I want to. I want to miss her getting her car. Yeah.

But I can see how it came off like, of course, the other girl, she's walking in her moment, walking in her moment, that's my friend. Like, I root for her regardless. I mean, when I didn't have or when she didn't have whatever, like I want the best for her. I'm happy for everything that she has. So now that you guys are going through this season or whatever, is the relationship still the same though?

Because it's just a very, like what conversations do y'all have after a moment like that? Because I've never seen that dynamic. Well, you have to understand, like I just said, I was oblivious to how the narrative was being painted. Oh, so that's a good conversation happening right now. I knew I was late, but I knew I was late because I filmed in Duluth.

Yeah. There was a camera crew with me. One, like I was just somewhere lollygagging. I was working. And I knew that when I got there, I didn't want to miss her big moment because I got there just in time. So I didn't understand that I now see the narrative of, oh, Portia being late trying to steal her moment. Why on earth would I bring my friend to the show or encourage the show to bring her in this moment as the main character and not be happy for her? I think the show or encourage the show to bring her in this moment as the main character and not be happy for it.

I think the show is trying to pitch out against each other. Yeah, that's what it's given that. Well, that is definitely a storyline. We're going to see what it gives but even with Kelly, what's the name Kelly? Kelly. Kelly has made that funny remark in front of me. I feel like they're trying to pitch out against each other.

You can't let them make you the punching bag all season. Yeah, but she's the girl that's, like, it's her season. So she's the answer to the conflict. And not even just I'm that girl or queen of show, whatever, I like those accolades. But no, it's- You get two peaches? I get two peaches, I'm standing up in the middle like this. No, but it's like, I feel like at the end of the day,

I'mma bet you gonna have to come and come at the top dog I mean, I'm sure they're gonna come in Kenya just like they did they're gonna come in Phaedra You got to come at the OGs. It is what it is. It's just the name of the game right, um, it's just I feel like and in TV It's hard because you have your reality of what's happening real time Then you film it and then you probably get over it, and then you watch it again. And some things could be hurtful.

The editing could be hurtful. Things could look dismissive. Things can look like what it's not really is. So. Have you had to call her and do what you just did and be like, yo, taking accountability, I didn't even know it could come off that way. I apologize if it did.

Like, are y'all doing that at this point? Because you're watching it back now. Genuinely it wasn't that big of a deal to she or I. Got you. It really wasn't. Maybe it was by the time she got to her confessional and they started asking her them probing questions. But at the time there was no feeling, no bad vibe about me being like, this is my friend. She knows exactly where I'm filming at. She know I can't film in my crib. You know, she

know what's being blocked over here. I'm just trying, I'm just happy you know, I can't feel in my crib, you know, she know what's being blocked over here I'm just trying I'm just happy that they still filming my ass at the end of the day Cuz how you filming a housewife without house So I'm just thankful and grateful to Bravo and to all the other girls for stepping up I'm glad that her moment was so huge. I love that the way they showed it. They really showcased her I love that because on an ensemble cast the worst thing is to be just the main character on your own. You want everybody to hold their own weight, and I feel like she carries her own weight,

Kelly does, Britt does, all the girls do. So please, shine. Do you watch every episode? Do you watch the episodes, or you just am not watching it? So I have to, I have to. But this season, I probably won't watch all of them, because a lot is some darker moments for me.

It's a little bit difficult. You said you have to? We used to when we did blogs, right? But now unless I'm doing press, and if I know it's a light episode, I'll watch it. But I really don't wanna see myself with the flashbacks and the tears and some of the things I've already healed from.

You said you like seeing the OGs on the show. Would you welcome NeNe back? Yes, yes. I've already healed from. You said you like seeing the OGs on the show. Would you welcome NeNe back? Yes, yes. I will welcome her back. I mean, it ain't gonna look like I'm welcoming her back. Let me get this straight. We ain't gonna have a time in the beginning, but I'm for what's good for the show,

but I just feel like realistically, as much as we all love NeNe and I mean Miss NeNe, realistically you just can't sue a network. You cannot say things about Andy Cohen that are that damaging and expect that bridge to still be standing. So unfortunately, I just don't know if she can cross that and come back.

What about? I just have one question. When did Portia's confidence change? What was that moment, right? Because when we first seen you on the show, your confidence level wasn't as high as it is now. You weren't as comfortable in your skin. You wasn't ready to clap back.

And then there was a change where it was like, Portia didn't change, it was like middle finger to everybody. When did that happen? I think that happened when I gave birth to a human, you know, and I had to be someone that she can look up to. I could not be weak. When you become a mother,

you have this natural instinct to be protective. Your heart is outside of your body. Most delicate thing that could kill you is right there that you have to protect. So if you protect your child, you now know I gotta protect me. So I'm super protective of me for Pilar. So when I say it comes to my mental health,

like you talk about all the time, I put me first. I love my daughter, I love my family, and when I was married, I loved my husband, but I put me first. I put my mentality first, and I protect my peace, my energy first because if I'm good and I'm making sure I have the right synergy around me,

the right atmosphere, the right people around me, then I know my daughter's gonna be good. My whole life is for Pilar. So what you see now is just me growing the fuck up. I'm 44 years old at this point. Capital P. Capital P. And I make my own money. And I finally, as a people person, decided to celebrate myself.

Like even in my down times, I still try to think about what I have accomplished. A lot of times as a reality star, we get talked about, oh, she just a reality star. She got a tan, she whatever. I'm a multitude of things. I have done a lot of things in my life to arrive where I am and have the status that I have so I now can accept it for me So that's pretty much where the confidence comes from I got one more show question because I know you also are acting to I got a lifetime situation we want to talk about but

Kenya so I know she's not gonna finish out the season because of what happened with her and Brittany But they were saying that she could come back put potentially season 17 Who said that I thought that she could come back potentially season 17. Who said that? I thought that she was only suspended for the rest of the 16. I thought she was only suspended for season 16 and could potentially come back for 17 though. I would hope that's true. I just can't see I'm in 100% agreement with her not being here. I would love for her to be at the reunion. I'm for what's best for the show. And I loved where Kenya was going. She's not that happy with me right now, you know?

But that's okay. I've always been that type. I don't give a damn how you feel about me. I'm always gonna speak the truth. So, you know, I feel like at this moment, no matter what, I feel like it would be good for Kenya to be at the reunion. And I feel like she is very articulate and She can speak to Britt and she can speak to the cast and she can speak to the fans and she can find her way

Back next season. So I think that that could be a true statement. I should not have it with you right now I thought y'all were doing better this season She didn't like when I said that when I compared her to Britt and I said they were similar And I said they were similar but I meant because they're both fabulous they're both to me speak their mind like you know she when you don't like somebody you don't want to be compared to them so right got you but whatever girl I got hell I gotta talk about you you a part of the show don't you want to be talking about it's kind of crazy though I didn't even think about the reunion like the fact that she

won't even be on the room that it. I'm still hopeful. I'm still hopeful. She is she's still a big part of the show. She's not the show She didn't make or break the season But Kenya is a person who I've been doing this with for a very long time and for once We were possibly about to have a season of not being foes. You know what I'm saying? We were possibly about to have a season of not being foes. You know what I'm saying? Phaedra, I have to say, when Phaedra came in, she helped to elevate the show as well and keep us where we needed to be because everybody been wanting to see her.

She been gone the whole time, Kandee been gone. People wanted her back. Kandee has been really upset about how Kenya has been treated by the network. She's been very vocal about that. And then Phaedra coming back, I don't know if Candy's too excited about that as well too, but do you feel like the network protects you guys the way that they should?

Because that's what Candy's saying, is like the network didn't protect one of their stars, which is Candy. I still work for the network, so I don't share certain sentiments, okay? Let's be clear, all right? I'm saying that I think Kenya deserves an opportunity, an opportunity can be given to anyone you can always say no She can say whatever she wants to say to Brit the cast the crew and whoever and they can say no

But I believe she deserves that opportunity. I ain't say a damn thing about the network love the network Talk about all this money you getting pampered by Portia getting pampered by Portia. Lifetime series. Go Naked Hair, the Lifetime movie. Yeah, it's Detective Ebony Williams and the upcoming Lifetime movie, Single Black Female 3, the final chapter. Yes, yes, that was big for me.

I always want to be in a Lifetime movie. I am obsessed with Lifetime, and I am amongst the cast of great women who've been, they had two other movies. This is the third installment, the last one. And and I played detective. I look totally different in this movie I even stopped doing Botox for this movie. I did I was like, you know what? I'm not doing any Botox I want my whole face to move You look good, but in the trail cuz I know when you saw

Every freaking line. I got lines in my forehead. I got a crow's feet. I got all of it. Because my role is so different from who I am. Like I'm an alcoholic. I'm a bit of a stalker. I ain't going to say what else I've done in that movie.

But I think it's going to be a good look for me in the acting world because it's totally different from me playing myself and a lot of other things that I've done before. You turned down a lot of acting roles, who don't? Yes, I have because I also have well, what am I? My mom told me not to claim that no more, but I'm one of those people who start something and I don't finish it a lot of times. So I like hyper-focused on something and then all of a sudden I hyper-focused on something else. So at a certain point in my life, I was really hyper-focused on acting and then all of a sudden I hyper-focused on something else. So at a certain point in my life I was really hyper-focused on acting. I was going on stage plays with Vivica Fox going on tour. I've done movies I've done a lot of voiceovers and then I was like, oh, I just want to concentrate on go nigga. Harry and Pampered

I don't want to do anything outside. I'm a businesswoman and now I'm like, you know what? It's time to pivot in back into that because I can naturally do it. Like I'm the type, I have a photographic memory. I can literally read the script that night and it'll be in my mind the next day and print it. I got one last question. Will a Nigerian man get another shot or do you feel like the stereotype is true and all of them are scammers now?

So you just done. Well, I am Nigerian. So, and I don't know what you mean about all of them are scammers. I mean, we live in the United States Which is the biggest scam? I mean our entire government is scam and a fraud and taking advantage of people So I feel like when it comes to Nigerians, of course, I would date another one, you know

I would I would marry another one. I want to love and marry who is gonna be honest and love me I'm not ready to get married. I'm not rushing into none of that. I mean unless. I'm about to say you say that damn girl. Unless. By the end of the season, you'd be like, oh poor shit got a new ring. I know! You would get married again? I would. I would get married again. Why? Of course. So just because of him, I can't get

married again. I can't enjoy the comfort and the security of being I love being married I love being called somebody's wife I love waking up every morning sitting at your feet asking you what you need me to do like I I just love that That's in me. I'm a southern girl and I think that's probably why Nigerian men and like men of wealth like me because I am very submissive and I'm very loving and I'm very even though I'm all that I am boss bitch I can shift that a bit for my man. Do they have to have wealth? You know I was thinking about that I was thinking about that and

I think if I didn't have a daughter they don't have to have wealth they do have to have self so you need to be self-sufficient needs to have your own business about yourself and you need to be self-sufficient. You need to have your own business about yourself. And you need to be able to come in here if I get pregnant and provide for our child. So no, I don't want no completely man who's building from scratch. But no, he doesn't have to be wealthy. What is wealth? Are any of these men really wealthy? Is any of the money really real? Like we don't really know. I know one thing about it. I am a wealthy woman. I am probably a rich man. I know one thing about it. I am a wealthy woman. I am a probably a rich man. I'm

Probably a rich man. I am like all my stuff is legit. You can check my bank accounts It is what it is. You can see where it came from Taxes not a man. I gave birth. Hello What I'm what I'm looking for, it's just in the male version. So, you know, but I do, I like this new conversation of like Dolly Parton, oh, RIP to her husband who just recently died. But I like her relationship, like they were separated a lot of the time, it's in space physically,

but they kept their relationship strong. Like I don't feel like I have to live with my husband Charlie Ralph does that too? Yeah, I shall write and I loved when she told us that I don't think it has to be traditional I feel like my next relationship will not be traditional. I wonder what that means in the between It'll be a little bit open. Oh You would do an open relationship? Really? Not with another female so you could go and have another man but he can't have another woman? I haven't found one who's gonna allow that. If you know one let me know but no they don't allow that. They don't allow that. I just mean as far as like your tradition of him having to be

in the house. I honestly could be in the house with just my baby and be good and then we come and visit my husband. So you need a break sometimes? You just want a break sometimes? Yeah and like I always used to kind of tease with even my husband. So you need a break sometimes, you just wanna break sometimes. Yeah, and like I always used to kinda tease with even my husband, I'd be like, we could have separate bedrooms, like why not? Why not have separate, just think about it, why not have separate living spaces? And then when you wanna meet in the middle,

you meet in the middle, and if you don't, you can comfortably go in your room, pass gas, sleep, you know, not wash your makeup, like. I think if you feel like that, I don't think that's matter. You have enough houses though, I mean you have enough rooms in your house to be able to do that. So why y'all didn't just do it?

Well, because I also like to be under people's. That's why I'm so confused because I'm watching you. I'm watching you and I'm like, my man, my man, my man. So I'm sitting here like, girl, what in what world? I think I was talking about more so when we got old. Well, he already was old. I was about to say when we got older, he already was old, but. Of course you don't know what you want.

Of course you just want love. It's fine, I could be with a husband and him not living in my house, I think that's possible. Maybe I'm just talking about a businessman who travels a whole lot and leaves me to my face. Could he have a girlfriend? No, I'm not gonna tell him he can have a girlfriend, but do I, I mean, do I got eyes on every single thing?

No. Yeah. So cheating don't get caught basically, what you would say. No, because then that's also saying it's okay to cheat. So I'm not gonna say it's okay for anybody to cheat. I would love, sexually, let me tell you this right now, and being a woman who's about to be super single

after this divorce, I am not about having sex with a lot of people and no one should. I am a big advocate for women pick your one person Okay, now whether this you have a relationship with him or not Situationship whatever pick your one sexual partner get tested Make sure you know what he's doing make sure his health is important to him Not just that he going to get tests for you to see that he wants to make sure that his body is that he going to get tests for you to see that he wants to make sure that his body is healthy and that he also has integrity with who he spreads his penis

with if you meet someone like that stick with them and then just date everybody else but the issue comes in because I'll be there too but then you stick with that one person you be trying to date the other people and then it's like now in this person you develop the feelings and you compare now y'all have to be scared together meet you somebody who's scared. I am actually scared of these streets. I am not looking forward to being single out here and being tested in these streets. Especially health-wise.

Health-wise. I mean, Atlanta is number three in the AIDS department. And who knows what other diseases is out there that we all, you know, the people got out there, the other people got. But no, I think sexually have one partner and get tested with that partner. That's it.

I don't think there's anything wrong with what you're saying, but you have to tell the other people that you're dating that they not getting no sex. Oh, they know they ain't getting no sex. How they know that? It's certain things you say. Which means they not getting sex. You think they dating y'all just because they want to date y'all? Or you think y'all just got that good shit of a conversation?

No, but you can try out when you having sex or not. No, baby, people do date us just to date us. People do take us out just to be in our presence. Bless your heart. People just take us out just to be in our presence No, they be hating but what they don't what y'all men don't like to understand and I think y'all get it But y'all overlooking cuz you want to feel good about your own selves and that's your own thing We do compartmentalize y'all like we have people we call hey, I just want to go out eat and have a good time Hey travel buddy, but you still not I have friends that travel with men that don't have sex with them That the intention of sex isn't there for him exactly he doesn't want

Who are are in a space to take care of a woman and make sure she's good and not require sex. And when you were breathin' fresh air, they just want that sometimes. We'll see how long it lasts. It may last for, you know, it's a good time, not a long time. So maybe like a little one year relationship. Yeah, cause the guy's about 89.

He just lookin' for company. Ooh, I could be. You know what I'm sayin'? 89, I'm not saying. That's what y'all subscribing. What's the only issue with you? The next man I'm with, I really wanna be attracted to him.

Like I really wanna be like, I wanna be really attracted to him This morning when I was saying like I feel bad be feeling like no from everything from your look to how you dress it I want to be like like oh my god about my next person. Hey what did I tell you? You know how you just laid there and you just want to kiss him. Yo you could just want to like I want to look at your face on it and eat your face off. Why is Lauren here talking like she got options?

Yes that's what we want. What did I tell you this morning? He told me you got to basically pick and choose so like if he can't dress just dress him up and I'm like I don't. No that's true. See dress him up but hold on don't dress him up till you marry him. You want your wife to be like that, ain't it, boo? Yeah.

Put something else on. But don't you agree that he- Dress him up, put a filter on him, do all of that, and then when you leave him, take it all back. Jesus Christ. Portia, ladies and gentlemen, Real Housewives of Atlanta comes on this Sunday at 7 Central, Bravo and Peacock. And we appreciate you for stopping through.

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