The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Pour Minds Podcast Talk ‘Travel Queens,' Learning Transparency, Friendship, Relationships + More

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Pour Minds Podcast Talk ‘Travel Queens,' Learning Transparency, Friendship, Relationships. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FM...See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:05 open your free iHeartRadio app, search one you feed, and listen now. Wake that ass up! Early in the morning, The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy, we are The Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building. My girls! Lex P, Andrea Nicole. What's up, guys? What's up, y'all? What's up, guys? We're back! Long time no see.
Starting point is 00:02:27 We're back again. I know. How y'all feeling? Great. Good. We feel really good. Yeah, happy to be here. Happy to see y'all.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Yes, it's been too long. Thank you. Yeah. Y'all got the new show, Travel Queen. First of all, I'm happy to see y'all just evolving. Paul Mines podcast is a hit. Paul Mines podcast evolving. Now y'all got the Travel Queens TV show on BET.
Starting point is 00:02:47 It's a docu-series. How did that come about? Also, the production company Coco Butter, they actually reached out to us because they wanted us to audition for it because they had us and I think some other, maybe two or three other friend groups in mind. So we auditioned for it.
Starting point is 00:03:02 They loved us and then we got it. And we started filming maybe like a month after. Yeah, it was really us, and then we got it, and we started filming maybe like a month after. And then we filmed the whole show in two weeks. Cocoa butter, I know that's a black woman on the show. No, it's actually not. It's not. It's a white guy in black, Ian and Tim.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Show us Ian and Tim. Well, they smart. Yeah. Well, damn. So what are travel queens about? Where y'all going? What y'all doing? So we went to four different cities. Yeah. Damn. So what is Travel Queens about? Where y'all going? What y'all doing?
Starting point is 00:03:27 So we went to four different cities. We went to Cartagena, Mexico City, Key West, and Charleston. So it's basically really showing young black millennials, Gen Zers, especially women, how to travel, where to go eat, where to find other black people when you travel, just how to be safe, and have a good time. I think right now in media, I won't say right now, but I feel like a lot of stuff that we're seeing in the media with black women is like who fight in,
Starting point is 00:03:51 throwing drinks in people's face, so I really think it's refreshing to see two black women who are really friends just having good, innocent fun. We're not talking about men and dating and gender wars and all this stuff, it's just good fun. What about the ladies that are watching it like well how am I gonna be able to fly myself out? Don't start! I'm so bad at this, we have graduated from that! But y'all flying y'allself out on this show.
Starting point is 00:04:15 But actually B.T. and he fuck up boy and flew us out. But I will say so a lot of the stuff too is like, it's budget friendly. I mean, we went to Charleston, you know what I'm saying? You can do a road trip. We went to Key West, so you can drive to Key West. You know what I'm saying? You don't have to necessarily fly. It's not like we're doing extremely expensive things,
Starting point is 00:04:36 to be honest. So I think if you budget, you know, it's not like we're doing luxurious things and going to the Maldives and, you know, staying at the Four Seasons. It's very budget friendly stuff. Yeah, and I think that was the point of the show. They wanted to make everybody feel like,
Starting point is 00:04:50 okay, I can come here and I don't have to spend a lot of money to have a good time. So if a guy was flying y'all out, would y'all still wanna go to those destinations that y'all just went to? Yeah, but I probably woulda did something different. I ain't gonna lie. I mean, Charlton is beautiful though.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I mean, Charlton is beautiful. And Key West. Key West is one of them little ducked off. I remember I've been taken to Key West before. Really? You've been taken to Key West? Yes, I was flew out by Cocoa Butter. Yes, yes, yes. But usually the older gentlemen fly you out. Yes, it's a very quiet town.
Starting point is 00:05:20 You can definitely sneak off there with an old man. I had never been to Key West before. That was my first time. It was cool very quiet town. You can definitely sneak off there with an old band. I had never been to Key West before. That was my first time. It was, you know, it was cool. Water blue. The water was blue.
Starting point is 00:05:31 That's a fact. That's what Liddle Liddle took you. Liddle Liddle took you. I'm with you. Tell them why it's Liddle Liddle, because they're going to be confused. So I just told them that when the older guys perform fellatio, they don't really know.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Congalingus. The what? The congelingus? Congelingus. Congelingus. Okay, when they doing that, they say, leel, leel, leek. Because they don't have teeth anymore. You know, they trying to figure out where it is.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Especially the ones with glasses. You know, when they slip down on their nose and they say, leel, leek. They be doing it with the glasses? I like that. I need to get me a leedle-leedle. I feel like it's gonna get a little foggy from the body. Just a little bit.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I like that. I don't need me a little little little. I feel real now. Yes, we will find the big K-Wise next time y'all go. Out of the four cities y'all went to, which one did you like the best and why? Mexico City. I know it. Why?
Starting point is 00:06:20 Because it was just so nice. I feel like it's so many black expats that are moving there from the United States. So it's a lot of black people out there. We went to an R&B night while we were out there. We went to a black vegan restaurant. It's just, it reminded me a lot of the United States, but just in Mexico City. I feel like out of everywhere that we went, that was my favorite place. I'm not going to lie. I keep saying that Charleston surprised me too. Like, I've never been to Charleston. And I have a really close friend of mine that lives out there, and he's been trying to get me to come out there forever.
Starting point is 00:06:48 And I was like, what is in Charleston? Isn't that a dance? I was like, I'm not going out there. Thank you. It's a dance. It's Charleston. Y'all know, isn't that the dance? It's not.
Starting point is 00:06:56 OK, we did. Maybe we found out there wasn't the dance. But I was so surprised. People be taking the nice boats out. The food is good. I had a ball in Charleston. I'm actually planning a trip to go back for a weekend. Charl food is good. I had a ball in Charleston. I'm actually planning a trip to go back for a weekend. Charleston is beautiful.
Starting point is 00:07:08 That's his home. Mexico City is beautiful. It is nice, too, though. It is. There's a lot of people moving there, yeah. It is. My husband's family's from there. Really?
Starting point is 00:07:16 I know, that's why husband, period. Yeah, don't fuck with him. I knew that already. Okay, cause he trying it. Do y'all both like to travel already? Yeah. And we already travel together a lot anyway. So we feel like that's why it was the perfect show for us.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Y'all get tired of each other at all? Like, you know what? You go your way, I go my way. Absolutely. I was going to say no. She was going to say no. She was like, no. I'm going to say no. I'm letting this go. We're neighbors.
Starting point is 00:07:42 We literally live in Atlanta. I live in a building right here and her building is right here and the unit that I used to live in she could see My apartment from the pool so she would be like waving at me from the pool No I'm gonna move right next door to my sweetie poo. See, I love that. I would love to be there with my best friend. I love it though. Yeah, we can tie it down.
Starting point is 00:08:06 I'd be like, can I go with some sugar? You know what's crazy? I think when we were younger and the show first started, we didn't have any direction. We didn't know what we wanted to do. We're going through growing pains, but now it's like, she's 34, I'm 35. We grown women. We don't have anything to fight about. And honestly, I think it's so crazy when people have podcasts and they make so much money
Starting point is 00:08:26 And they be arguing To be able to travel the world with your best friend and have a business it's great. It's fun How is it when y'all get in relationships though? Oh I feel like we do a really good job of still keeping the balance of our friendship Yeah, still being in a relationship. We always find the time to hang with each other, to go to dinner, to talk on the phone. As crazy as it is because the podcast,
Starting point is 00:08:53 we do talk about dating a lot, we are really not male-centered women. And a lot of people think that because we talk about dating so much on the show, but we really not. We like to be, last year we went to's for her birthday, we wasn't inviting them. We went to Miami one year for my birthday. Like, we just go on trips by ourselves.
Starting point is 00:09:10 We're not like, oh, our boyfriends have to come. Or if we go to dinner, it's not like, oh, bring your man, it's none of that. None of that. Yeah, sure. So y'all still booed up? You know. You know.
Starting point is 00:09:21 You know. You know. You know. They watching right now like, damn. Crazy. Damn. You know. They watching right now like damn. Crazy. Damn. It's in a rocky place. It's in a rocky place. We gonna see what happens.
Starting point is 00:09:29 It's complicated. We figuring it out. Yeah, which is crazy, right? Because I feel like it happened simultaneously. It did. Like at the same time for both of us, we started kind of going through a transition and a breakup at the same time. But it's not like in the bad space.
Starting point is 00:09:37 No, yeah, it's not. Like we're cool, it's cool, we're figuring it out type situation. Yeah. We're figuring it out. We're figuring it out. We're figuring it out. We're figuring it out. We're figuring it out. We're figuring it out. We're figuring it out. We. But it's not like in the bad space.
Starting point is 00:09:45 No, yeah, it's not. Like we're cool, it's cool, we're figuring it out type situation. Y'all talk each other up like girl, leave him. All right, I'ma leave him if you leave him or if I leave him. No, you know what I'm saying? You know what's crazy? No, I'm really like that friend where when she calls me
Starting point is 00:09:59 and she talks to me about what's going on in her relationship and stuff, I'm just always like, okay girl, well, you know, do what you want to do. I try to be supportive of what she want to do as long as it's not a physically violent situation or something that you need to leave that's abusive or anything like that. I try to be supportive of my friends. And I get it when you love somebody, you want to stay with your man.
Starting point is 00:10:18 It's hard out here. Y'all all men. Y'all all married. Y'all got y'all. I was going to say we are not all men. No. We are. Oh, all right. She's like, you're all men. You're all married. You all got your all men. I was going to say we are not all men. No. Oh, all right.
Starting point is 00:10:26 She's like, is y'all all men? I heard that woman a long time ago. I swear. I was saying y'all all married. I don't know why I said it. You was just in love last year, Lex. I still am in love. I'm very much in love.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Like I said, it's just a situation. We're figuring it out. I don't, you know, but I think we're both so I'm very much in love. Like I said, it's just a situation. We're figuring it out. I don't, you know, but I think we're both so focused on our careers right now, and I know it sounds so cliche, but I'm just a person. He's an amazing guy. If we're meant to be together, we're gonna be together.
Starting point is 00:10:56 So I'm just not putting pressure on it. You know what I mean? So it's cool. We gonna figure it out, you know? What have y'all learned about yourselves from doing the podcast? How long y'all been doing the podcast, first of all? Five years now, right?
Starting point is 00:11:07 No, longer than that. We started doing Poor Minds when I was like 27. So, it's about seven years. Seven years. Seven years now. Okay, so y'all like that. People don't realize, this is at the point, this is the time where podcasts really start to take off. Around your seven-fifth year.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Everybody think it's just instant success. Around your seven-fifth year. So what have y'all learned about yourselves? For me, I would say transparency and vulnerability is healing. When I first started doing the show, I think that I always have kind of had more of a closed off personality.
Starting point is 00:11:38 I've always been a little bit more private than like, she's always been like an open book on the show. And I never used to want to talk about things that I was going through, because I felt like it was a sign of weakness. And I've just always had this thing where I don't want people to look at me like, you know, I'm weak or whatever.
Starting point is 00:11:52 So I think that now I'm in a space where I enjoy telling my story. I enjoy telling people the things that I'm going through, because I feel like it can help other people get through similar things. Or, you know, just being transparent to me is just very important at this point in my life because, I don't know, I just.
Starting point is 00:12:13 I don't wanna get emotional. I don't wanna get emotional a little bit, but like I lost my dad and it was something that was, thank you, it was something that was really, really hard for me to talk about on the show, but I wish that back then I had the same mindset because I feel like I was dealing with so much by myself, and when I started talking about it on the show,
Starting point is 00:12:32 it was just so many people in such an outpouring of love, people saying I've been through the same thing, I can understand where you're coming from. So, that's what I've learned over the years about myself. I think that I really enjoy now telling people what I'm going through instead of just feeling like I have learned over the years about myself. I think that I really enjoy now telling people what I'm going through instead of just feeling like I have to go through everything by myself. What you like?
Starting point is 00:12:50 I think with me, I am such like a loud personality. And I think a lot of times I would try to hide that from people and I just embrace who I am. Like I'm not the sexy girl that's doing all this. Like I'm a tomboy. I like to be loud, have fun. So I really got confidence about myself because I'm like, this is who I am. I think for, when I first started like being on social media,
Starting point is 00:13:12 I was like doing the bikini pics and posing by the pool. And I'm like, girl, this is not you at all. So I've really been able to embrace myself and be like, you know what, you the loud homegirl and that's okay. Like, you don't have to fit into this box of what you think that a woman is supposed to be. Cause people always love to say, cause I know you hear this a lot.
Starting point is 00:13:32 They'd be like, oh, funny women aren't pretty. Or you have to either you funny or you're pretty. You can't be both. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like I used to try to lean into being the pretty girl. And then I would try to lean to be the funny girl. And I'm like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:13:45 I don't have to be in anybody's box. You know what I'm saying? So. But you always been sexy. You just don't give off sex. Like you say, like you're just not prissy. You're just bougie. Yeah, well we talked about this on the show.
Starting point is 00:13:56 There's a difference between like having sex appeal and like being attractive. Like Dre just is like sexy. You know what I'm saying? She just walking around, she like, hey, oh. Yeah. You know? It's just, that's how she is. You know what I'm saying? She just walking around, she's like, hey, oh. You know? It's just, that's how she is. You can have both, though.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Yeah, you can have both. Like I said, I just think like being sexy, that's just not my lane. Yeah, it really must be. Because sex appeal is something that's just on the inside. I feel like. Yes, and I just think like, that's not a part of my personality, but that's okay.
Starting point is 00:14:21 It's not, I'm not saying I'm unattractive. I'm a baddie. Uncle Baddie. You feel me, you know what I'm saying? So I just think that I've been more comfortable being in my skin and who I am, for sure. Growing out loud is hard. Yes. You know, and that's what y'all been doing
Starting point is 00:14:35 the last seven years on that podcast. Literally, going through everything. Like she said, she lost her dad, I lost my mom. Going through breakups, and then it's like, we be like, oh, we in love. And then the next month we talking about a different dude and everybody like, oh my God, you got a new dude already? You do too.
Starting point is 00:14:51 And they doing the same thing. Y'all doing the same thing. Just nobody watching. They watching and supporting my goals. But nobody cares about you. And people not in your business. So I think going through relationships and growing pains and I've always been honest
Starting point is 00:15:06 about my financial status too, because I always say when I moved to Atlanta, I had $3, because I 100% did, like I wasn't lying. So I think it's important to be transparent, especially as a black woman in this industry. I feel like we always try to hide what we making, because I'm like, oh, this company signed up for your ads, how much they paying you?
Starting point is 00:15:23 Because this is how much they paying us, let's make sure that they not, you know what I'm like, oh, this company signed up for your ads, how much they paying you, because this is how much they paying us. Let's make sure that they not, you know what I'm saying? So I think that with the platform that we have, it's like, yeah, we've grown in front of the camera, but like she said, being open and vulnerable has helped us a thousand percent. For sure. So what have y'all learned about y'all selves
Starting point is 00:15:37 from doing the TV show? Honestly, I feel like everybody always asks that because they're like, oh my gosh, how was it? It was two weeks, but I'm like, I don't know, nothing, I feel like everybody always asks that because they're like, oh my gosh, how was it? It was two weeks, but I'm like, I don't know, nothing I guess. To be honest. Well, I mean, cause it's crazy cause I thought it was gonna feel so different,
Starting point is 00:15:55 but it felt so natural. Like I feel like we made for TV a little bit because it felt so natural. It kind of felt like, and maybe because we did it together and we're best friends and we already have that chemistry and the camaraderie and stuff, it just felt. That's a good word.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Thank you. That's camaraderie. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. So it just felt like I'm doing this show with my homegirl and the cameras just happened to be here. How many bags did y'all pack? We had. Two. Two, right?
Starting point is 00:16:21 No, we had that one, we had one big suitcase and like our totes and stuff. And then a carry-on. Yeah. So what we did though, is, we had that one. We had one big suitcase and like our totes and stuff. And then a carry-on. Yeah. So what we did though is though we had the bags from Amazon that you vacuumed. So what we did is we had each bag for each city. So I had like my three outfits for Columbia
Starting point is 00:16:38 and my vacuum bag. Then I didn't have to open that bag no more. Then when we went to Charleston, I had my bag for Charleston. So it wasn't that bad, but I will say shout out to the producers at BET, James Knox, and the Cocoa Butter Family, because they really let us be ourselves. They did.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Like they were literally like press record, y'all just do y'all. And that's another thing I was worried about. I was like, how are they going to edit this and make us look? But it's definitely giving Lex P and Dre and Nicole. It's in real life. How was Columbia?
Starting point is 00:17:04 How was that? You know what? It was really fun. the cold. It's in real life. How was Columbia? How was it? You know what? It was really fun. It was. I had a good time. So that was my second time going to Columbia. My first time going to Cartagena because the first- Columbia, the country?
Starting point is 00:17:13 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Good cocaine out there. Now you know. You said that to me in my DMs when you seen I was in Columbia. Now you out alive. You are crazy. That pure white. I am weak.
Starting point is 00:17:28 So yeah, but I mean, funny enough, I think that's what people think of though. When you think of going to Columbia, you think of the cartel and stuff. Cause like I said, I went to Medellin a few years ago to get my teeth done. And I was scared to leave from the area where my hotel was and where my doctor was.
Starting point is 00:17:43 That crazy? I mean, I was just nervous to travel around because that's what you hear about Colombia. So when we went to Cartagena, I had a really, really good time. And then especially with us going to Palenque, which is the first free black city in the Americas, it was just so, you know that it's Afro-Latinos
Starting point is 00:17:58 in a lot of these countries. But when I say when we were in Palenque, we felt like we were somewhere in Ghana, in Nigeria. Like these people look like our cousins, our family members. It was just amazing being there and being submerged in the culture. Why'd you go all the way to Columbia to get your teeth done?
Starting point is 00:18:13 Because it was cheaper. Oh, okay, okay. I think here was like 30,000. You know, I'm getting a little money, but back then I was trying to save a little coin. And then when people get them done here, they just all the same size, like the extra large is like, nobody ever asks for the mediums or, you know.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Somebody said they get front teeth for the whole row. The whole row. It's like, how all your teeth the same size? When they get the top done, they don't get the bottom done. And it's like, come on, they need that corner. You gotta get the texture. I think that's why my teeth look so natural,
Starting point is 00:18:42 because he made the texture in my teeth or whatever. And how do men treat y'all when they see from outside of which we are usually outside of Atlanta Because Atlanta, you know, they see beautiful women sometimes they might not see that in Colombia like When you go out the country and they see American women they treat American women differently because they don't usually see That's the headline. If you said all women in Columbia, go bust it. You know what? I feel like- Usually when you go out in the country and they see American women, they treat American women differently because they don't usually see American women like that. So that's what happens. Honestly, I'm not going to lie. I feel like whenever we go anywhere, I really can't tell the difference because I feel like
Starting point is 00:19:18 everywhere we go, we kind of draw attention. I know that sounds bad, but it's like everywhere we go, we're used to people like, we're like, Oh my God, I know y'all from the pod or Oh my God, saying, Hey. And then when we were in Columbia, it's a little different because we had cameras around us. So of course people are like looking and saying, Yo K-pop fans, it's your boy, BOMHAN and I'm bringing you something epic. Introducing the K-Factor, the podcast that takes you straight into the heart of K-pop. We're talking music reviews, exclusive interviews, and deep dives into the industry like never before.
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Starting point is 00:23:46 because I feel like everywhere we go now, people kinda recognize us. So it's not really like we're getting treated differently per se, if that makes sense. When you said you were scared of how they were gonna edit y'all and make y'all look, were y'all allowed to be in the room during the editing process?
Starting point is 00:24:00 Or y'all trusted them and you just liked the way they ended up editing the episodes. Yeah, we didn't know anything, girl. We've seen everything, when everybody else seen it, we didn't know how they were gonna edit it. We still watching the, we was on the plane last night watching the episode for the first time. So are y'all nervous for every episode that come up?
Starting point is 00:24:17 You know what, well I'm not nervous now. I was nervous of how my body was gonna look because I just lost 30 pounds, okay? Okay, congratulations. So I when we shot I weighed like 205. Okay. So I was so nervous. I kept saying oh my gosh I hope because I have like a little belly on me. So whenever I gain weight like people always tend to think I'm pregnant. They be like let's pregnant. I'm like oh my god can I just have a little shot of tequila. Yeah. I had a little you know a little enchilada. Right. So I was like, oh my God, can I just have a little shot of tequila? I had a little enchilada, you know what I'm saying? So I was really more so nervous about my body after I saw the first episode, but I was like,
Starting point is 00:24:51 okay, body tea. Yeah, she looks good. How'd you lose the 30? A trip to Columbia? Pure Coke? Or what was it? You say what? How'd you lose the 30 back?
Starting point is 00:24:59 Oh no, honestly, I used to be a girl. I used to do everything under the sun. The first time I went to Columbia, it was for my BBL. So y'all talking about, y'all know Columbia under the sun. You know, the first time I went to Columbia, it was for my BBL. So y'all know Columbia for the Coke, I know Columbia for them good doctors. But I just did it natural this time. I was doing a lot of cardio, eating healthy, you know, I feel like, and I feel better now.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I think I'm getting older and I'm just all the, I'm not dissing people who do take other routes, but I just had to do it for my health reasons. It wasn't the old Zempig. It wasn't the old Zempig. I don't like needles, I couldn't do take other routes, but I just had to do it for my health reason. It wasn't the Ozempic. It wasn't the Ozempic. I don't like needles. I couldn't do that to myself, but no, no Ozempic. I do want to say too, you talk about walking in a room,
Starting point is 00:25:33 there's something different about Houston women. Houston women have a presence about them that stands out a lot more than a lot of other women. I think it's the size, to be honest. Really? Yes. It's the what? The size.
Starting point is 00:25:44 The size. They're usually taller. Tall and feet. Well, I'm not originally from Houston. I'm from's the size. Really? Yes. The what? The size. They're usually taller. Tall and fit. Well, I'm not originally from Houston. I'm from Orange, Texas. We made Texas. Everything's big in Texas. Yes, yes. I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:25:54 I think we do have a certain aura. We kind of command the room. Yeah, for sure. We walk in. We're very friendly. So especially when we walk in some rooms with people like from New York, they're not used to people speaking. We be like, hey y'all!
Starting point is 00:26:05 The Southern hospitality. How y'all doing? And then an accent too. Yeah, exactly. That's Houston. Yeah, it's very Houston. It's Houston all day. I'm H now all day.
Starting point is 00:26:13 How far along is from Houston? Two hours. Yeah, it's like two hours, yeah. What's something about y'all friendship that y'all think the TV show made stronger, if anything? I think that we realized how strong we are together and how many, I feel like how many doors that we're opening, even though I think,
Starting point is 00:26:31 and I know people are gonna be like, what doors you open? Honestly, podcasting, especially in the South, it's not a lot of podcasts in the South. Not like the other two here. Right, and the fact that there has been podcasters out there that have gotten TV shows, but it's mostly TV shows that are based on their podcast.
Starting point is 00:26:46 The fact that Travel Queens has nothing to do with Poor Minds, and we're showing our talents, like we have communication degrees, like we went to school for this. So I think a lot of times people don't take influencers or people who started on the internet seriously, because you started on the internet as well. So a lot of times we get so much backlash
Starting point is 00:27:03 because they're like, uh, y'all just girls who grabbed a mic and started a YouTube channel. But I think being on this show, it shows like, no, we got some tricks up our sleeve. You know what I'm saying? So I think that it made our friendship stronger because I'm like, bro, look at what we have done.
Starting point is 00:27:16 You know what I'm saying? Even from the first time when we came on Breakfast Club, I was like, oh my gosh, like, this is huge. You know what I'm saying? So I think it's just like, we realized how strong we are together and how much more that we have to do. And don't speed past the fact y'all got communications degrees.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Oh, yeah. I know, I think people always forget that because we never highlighted that much. Yeah. Graduated from Texas Southern University. And I graduated from Stephen F. Austin State University. So what did y'all want to do when y'all was in college? Y'all just wanted to be on TV, news anchors, or what?
Starting point is 00:27:44 You know, I didn't really know what I wanted to do, in college? Y'all just wanted to be like on TV, news anchors, or what? You know, I didn't really know what I wanted to do, to be honest. I knew I wanted to do something in media, and then when I graduated, I had a little fake internship at 97 Niner Box. Shout out to Kiadi. He's still-
Starting point is 00:27:55 Kiadi, hard body Kiadi. Hard body Kiadi. He's still on the radio in Houston right now, and I had a little fake internship with him. I shadowed him for maybe like two months, and then I realized I didn't really like radio. So then I didn't know what I wanted to do. And so I moved to Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Of course, y'all know Lex ended up moving out here. One of her friends who was also already into podcasting was like, y'all need to turn y'all YouTube channel into a podcast. And I feel like that's when I found my niche. I was like, okay, I'm supposed to be podcasting. But prior to that, I didn't know. I thought I was gonna do like hard news. I was like, okay, I'm supposed to be podcasting. But prior to that, I didn't know. I thought I was going to do like hard news.
Starting point is 00:28:26 I was like, I'm going to be Al Roka, bitch. I'm going to be reporting everything. It's going to rain. I'm going to do everything. Wait, I'm telling you, I thought I was going to be like, y'all don't understand. I said, I'm going to be on Good Morning America, bitch. It's going to rain.
Starting point is 00:28:43 It's going to rain. It's going to rain. I'm going to beat the media. I was trying be on Good Morning America, bitch. It's gonna rain. It's gonna rain. It's gonna rain. It's gonna rain. I was gonna beat the media. I was trying to do everything, but I took an internship at my school radio station, and we were just reporting on hard news every morning. It was so sad.
Starting point is 00:28:56 And I was like, I cannot do this. We're having to interview people who just lost their house in a fire, all this stuff. And I was like, okay, maybe I need to redirect. And so I've always been into entertainment news. Like I grew up, you know, watching E News, you know what I'm saying? The kids was watching Cocoa Melon out in Rugrats.
Starting point is 00:29:12 I was watching E News. So I was like, okay, let me do something in the entertainment world. Like that might be, you know, more my speed. So I knew I wanted to do something on TV and media, but I just wasn't sure. So podcasting kind of made it easy because I was applying for all the jobs in Houston,
Starting point is 00:29:27 and I just couldn't get my foot in the door. So I was like, well, let me just create our own lane and do our thing. How'd y'all connect with 85 South? It was because of Carlos. So Carlos always followed us on Twitter, and we were cool with him on Twitter. And I think I shot my shot, and I was just like,
Starting point is 00:29:44 oh, can you come record Poor Minds with us? And at this time, we weren't even recording in a studio yet. We were still recording in the living room at my house. And he pulled up on us, sat on the floor in my living room and recorded Poor Minds with us. And then I think ever since then, he was just kind of watching us. And then he saw how the show kept growing and elevating.
Starting point is 00:30:02 And then a few years later, he ended up asking us to come on 85 South. We went on 85 South, I think that episode did a million views in like five days or something. Yeah, boys, dumb as hell we did. Oh my God, this is hilarious. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:16 So we ended up, the episode did like a million views in five days. And then he introduced us to Chad. And he was like, I think, you know, we wanna sign y'all. Dope. That is so nice. I do have a question. Some advice. I have a single friend.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Uh-oh. She has a closet full of wigs. Terrible wigs. Make sure you say terrible wigs. Oh, you know who the friend is. I do, sadly. She has a bunch of wigs, curly, one day is straight, different colors.
Starting point is 00:30:47 She's funny, she's smart. She switches up her wigs like a Netflix series. But when it comes to dating, she doesn't seem like she can find the right guy. She doesn't know if guys get intimidated or if they're just confused. How would you suggest she meet somebody to secure a relationship? Because How would you suggest she meet somebody to secure a relationship because time is running out and so are her wigs. Damn. But why did you include the stuff about the wigs? That's what I was going to ask.
Starting point is 00:31:12 What do the wigs? You think the wig might be the reason why she can't find a man? I mean, think about it. Just think that I'm sure that y'all felt like y'all had to change about yourselves a little bit, and it probably made them, you know, made the bet a little stronger for the fish.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Okay. Well, you know, what kind of man is she trying to date? Because, you know, they the bait a little stronger for the fish. Okay. Well, you know, what kind of men are she, is she trying to date? Because, you know, they say they like bad weed. They do. The white. They love a crunchy, crunchy. They love the white man. Maybe she's not dating in the right pool. They love a crunchy, stale weed. My weed used to be crunchy. I could not keep the breads off of me.
Starting point is 00:31:44 God damn. They love a stiff wig. Oh, they do. But I will say this. We were actually just having this conversation. We was literally just talking about this. They do. They love a stiff wig. They have that saying, hard wig, soft life.
Starting point is 00:31:57 But, but, but. I didn't make that up, Charlamagne. They say that. They do say that. They say that. Maybe she should look at white. A different pool. She's in the wrong pool. I didn't make that up, Charlamagne! They say that! They do say that. They say that! Maybe she should look at white. A different pool.
Starting point is 00:32:07 She's in the wrong pool. She might be in the wrong pool one, but I will say we were just telling our producer this, and I was saying like, when you get your look together and you feel confident in yourself, it doesn't even matter. Like, whatever makes you feel good, you're going to attract the right person.
Starting point is 00:32:22 I enjoy being polished. I used to have a stiff wig or two. You know what I'm saying? I still got one of them in my house. She does, she does. But her wig. For memories, you're like, the wish. I told her, I said, well, she wins her first Emmy, I'm gonna put it on eBay in auction.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Okay, okay. Because it's gonna be- It's still got the ponytail in it. It's gonna be a collector's item, and it still has the scrunchie on it and everything. It's in a ponytail. Who do you think lies more, women with bad wigs or men with podcasts?
Starting point is 00:32:44 Men with podcasts. Men with podcasts, hands down. Oh my god You living in your truth I agree! I agree! She ain't home! She ain't home! Oh my God. Did y'all argue on the trip? No. For the two weeks that we were together? No! We didn't. Me and Lex honestly really get along most of the time.
Starting point is 00:33:14 We never really argue or get into it. If we do, cause I feel like we can, we're at a point now in our relationship where we can sense when the other person low-key tired of each other. Like, but it be over silly stuff. Like, Jarae be running late sometimes, and she'll get in the Uber and I'll just be on my phone.
Starting point is 00:33:28 She won't even speak. She'll be like, hey, girl! Girl, you are late! Bring your ass. So it be silly stuff like that. But we just don't, it don't be nothing that serious. Like I said, life is good. What do we have to be mad about?
Starting point is 00:33:41 Life is great. But we gotta go back to this wig shit for one second. We gonna have to open up the phones at some point cause I don't believe that. I've never heard the white men like stiff wigs. They do! They do! You said stiff wig, hard life?
Starting point is 00:33:52 Hard wig, soft life. Who told you this? I lived it. I lived it. I'm serious. If you go look on TikTok right now and type hard wig, soft life, you gonna see nothing but interracial couples
Starting point is 00:34:05 So why didn't you stick with the white man? Cuz I wanted a man I wanted a hard life with a hard man He wanted to struggle! I wanted to hold it down! She wanted to struggle with some raw Indians. Did any of the teachings of Dr. Umar influence you, to dump that white man? You know what? People hate when I say this. I love Dr. Umar.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I do, too. I love Ken. Black queens forever. Snow bunnies never. Never. Remember, Lauren? First of all, I have it. I have it.
Starting point is 00:34:42 I'm so excited to meet you. They talking about me. Talking about I got it bad with Ken Finney. First of all, stop playing it. I have it. You're so handsome. Y'all know Laura Rose? They talking about me. Talking about I got a bad wig. Can't find a man. First of all, I'm talking about you. Stop playing with me in this room. I wasn't talking about you.
Starting point is 00:34:51 It's so nice to meet y'all. Hey, your wig looks beautiful. Boy, a hard wig will holler, won't it? I want a hard wig. What are you talking about? I'm talking about you. Do not do our lesson. I'm talking about her.
Starting point is 00:35:03 It be in that satin. First of all, the sassy neck normally comes from over here. But you and your sass on all over there spinning around looking at me. I think they need y'all look so pretty on the show I think they need y'all look so pretty on the show I think they need y'all look so pretty on the show I think they need y'all look so pretty on the show I think they need y'all look so pretty on the show I think they need y'all look so pretty on the show I think they need y'all look so pretty on the show I think they need y'all look so pretty on the show I think they need y'all look so pretty on the show
Starting point is 00:35:18 I think they need y'all look so pretty on the show I think they need y'all look so pretty on the show I think they need y'all look so pretty on the show I think they need y'all look so pretty on the show I think they need y'all look so pretty on the show. I've watched all three episodes Why you kept turning around to me we got cameras all in the studio we're gonna run the tape Oh my god We keep talking about hard we're talking about that hard dye that's dried over there Damn! Now I'm gonna go back and get my producer back
Starting point is 00:35:37 I'll talk to y'all ladies after I'm gonna go back and get my producer back I'm gonna go back and get my producer back I'm gonna go back and get my producer back I'm gonna go back! All right, now I want to go back and get my producer back. I'll talk to y'all ladies after, OK? Yeah. I think your wig is beautiful. I do, too.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I like it. I love a ball. Me, too. I love a ball. You are so messy. Why y'all get us involved in that? I love a ball. Listen, how do y'all protect y'all mental health
Starting point is 00:36:01 while still being so trash-herd? Not at that. How do y'all protect y'all mental health? Check being so transparent? Not at that, how do y'all protect y'all mental health? My heart beat, I take my nerve and other people peace and that's how we keep the peace. A hard wig used to protect me. No CTE over here, I got a helmet on. I was protected.
Starting point is 00:36:21 But being that y'all are so transparent on the pod and on TV, how do y'all protect y'all mental health? I pray a lot. I have a great relationship with God. I pray a lot. I also go to therapy I think it's so important to go to therapy and I don't know why in the black community So many people don't want to try it out or are afraid to try it out Like it has completely changed my life, especially when I was grieving when I lost my dad That's when I started therapy and I've been going ever since. It's been about five years now.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Yeah, it's the same. I go to therapy. I recently started going. I go to church every Sunday. I do not play. I've worked on my relationship with God and honestly, I really have a tight close-knit circle. Like my friends and my family, like me and my sister are extremely close and I feel like that's important. Like when I have like my bad days and I'm just like, my best friend is here with me, Killa, I'm like, you need to come to Atlanta. Like I'm not, I'm not doing too well. And she will literally hop on a plane and come see me.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And you know, cause we all have our moments. Even with Dre being my neighbor, I'm like, I had a breakdown last week and I called her. I was like, bro, I'm finna lose my mind. So I think it's very important to have people around you that, you know, when I'm down, they can pick me up and vice versa, so. You got a grief counselor, Dre, or you just a therapist?
Starting point is 00:37:33 Just a therapist. Okay, okay, okay. But I mean, she did specialize in grief though. And that helped? It helped me a lot, for sure, because, I mean, I would talk to my mom about it, but it was hard talking to my mom about it because she was also grieving as well. And it was just nice to have somebody who was unbiased,
Starting point is 00:37:51 who I could let all my feelings out and let them know how I was feeling. Because at the time, you know, Lex hadn't lost her mom yet. So I didn't have any friends that had lost a parent. So it wasn't anybody that I could talk to that I felt like could relate to what I was going through. Man, condolences, man. Thank you. to what I was going through. Man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Condolences, man. Thank you. And when you are going through those breakdowns, Lex, and you say you hit dread, what you pull up with a bottle or something, some smoke, what y'all do? I always got about, not some smoke. I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:38:15 And not that Coke either. Exactly, cause I know where you was about to go. Are y'all gonna get flued out to make yourself feel better? I'm playing with you. No, but honestly, you know what? I don't even think we do that anymore. We used to, but now we really just talk. Like we just listen.
Starting point is 00:38:30 We talk it out. Yes, we used to drink through our problems, but we really don't do that anymore. We really just talk it out and, you know, just give each other time and just be there for each other. You know what I'm saying? You gotta learn them good coping mechanisms. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And one thing I've learned is just like, I've learned so much patience. I have so much peace in that because it doesn't rain forever. So every time I'm going through something, I'm just like, just let it pass. And it always, always passes. So I think we, we, we now we still get turned up.
Starting point is 00:38:59 A bottle of wine though. Yeah, we gonna drink now, but we don't use it as a crutch anymore. Not anymore. Not anymore. I was gonna ask y'all too, how do y'all balance turning up for the show, cause you still gotta perform, right?
Starting point is 00:39:09 Cause it's still a TV show. But then being present for the moments that you're experiencing, like those cultural moments in those cities. You know what's crazy? We didn't really drink that much the whole time that we were filming. We had a few scenes, we had a mezcal scene,
Starting point is 00:39:22 so of course we were drinking during that scene. I think the drag show, we were drinking a little bit. And then we had some mojitos. But honestly, those were the only three times throughout the whole time we were filming that we were drinking, because we really wanted to stay present in the moment. Because one thing about this,
Starting point is 00:39:37 we're going to take it to the moon. We're going to take it too far. So it's best to just not have no drinks. Yeah. And it's crazy because the mezcal scene that we did that showed in Mexico City last night, that was actually the last scene that we did for the entire show. That was probably the most lit that we got
Starting point is 00:39:52 because we were drinking so much. But I think it's very different from Poor Minds. But honestly, we stopped drinking a lot on Poor Minds. Because it was like some cringy episodes and we just like, oh my God. It was the Houston live show. Oh, the Houston live show really changed. It was so embarrassing because we recorded the show
Starting point is 00:40:12 and then we went back and watched it when we got back to Atlanta and it was just so cringy. We was on stage like, yeah, Lex, let's turn up. And we bringing our friends on stage and just drunk taking shots, twking it was it was an easy Yeah, one of my favorite shows Y'all came out and y'all was just dancing and it was like y'all in the zone No, not that one you're talking that that was Houston, but that was like our second Houston show you talking about we had the
Starting point is 00:40:38 Freaknik outfits on Yeah, you were doing that dance like yeah No, that was a good show That was a good show, we had put ourself on a drink minimum by that point. We have a two shot minimum before we go on stage. And then we'll have like a drink on stage. But we have one drink when we're on stage and that's it. Once we done with that drink, you're done.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Yeah, that first Houston show, we drank that whole bottle of Costa Migos. We was turned. But even though we were... You had nerves? Y'all scared? I'm always nervous. She's always a little nervous. Always before I go on stage.
Starting point is 00:41:04 I was just trying to turn up. I didn't realize I was getting so drunk, so quick. So drunk. So what's the long-term vision for the show? More seasons? Yes, we're hoping it's gonna get picked up for a second season. I think we should probably know that
Starting point is 00:41:18 within the next two weeks or so. So obviously we wanted to get picked up. And as far as Poor Minds, we want Poor Minds to get picked up. And as far as Poor Minds, we want Poor Minds to get picked up as a TV show as well. That's on our bucket list. Yeah, for sure. I think like with Travel Queens, I definitely want it to be a lot more seasons.
Starting point is 00:41:34 I feel like we should do like a whole season, like in Africa, a whole season in Europe. So that's what we're hoping that it'll grow to. And, you know, same thing with Poor Minds. I could see Poor Minds living on like, you know, maybe like a streaming app or something that you know outside of YouTube I think we're ready to make that transition with poor minds as well and Yeah, yeah for sure and more hosting opportunities for the both of us and individually she still has her
Starting point is 00:41:58 Cosmetics line that's doing really well So her just growing in the beauty industry. I have started my YouTube channel Lovelex P. So I'm just doing like hot topics, show reviews, cause that's the lane I wanna get into more hosting as well. So yeah, we just have so much stuff to do. And I feel like now that we've made that step into TV, it's like, you know, people can actually see what we can do now, you know?
Starting point is 00:42:19 For sure. Shop Muse Beauty Collection. I was already on. Oh. Shop Muse Beauty Collection dot com. Make sure you get your lip glosses matte liquid lipsticks lip liners Um, I also just branched into other cosmetics products. So now I have some jelly blushes. I have mascara and eyeliner Well, check out travel Queens on BET that's right. Thank you all for joining us Yeah, just drop the Paul Mines podcast.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Yes. Big love for Lex P. and Dre and Nicole. Thank you. Thank you. We love y'all. It's The Breakfast Club. Come on. Wake that ass up.
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