The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Ras Baraka Addresses Recent Arrest, Newark Airport Issues, Trump Administration + More

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Ras Baraka Addresses Recent Arrest, Newark Airport Issues, Trump Administration. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.c...om/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:09 Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes indeed. We got Mayor Ross Baracko. Welcome, how you feeling brother? I'm good, I'm good, a little tired, but I'm good. You can't get tired now?
Starting point is 00:02:24 I know that's right. You got a long way to go. I know that's right. How are you man? I'm good, I'm good. A little tired, but I'm good. You can't get tired now. I know that's right. You got a long way to go. I know that's right. How are you, man? I'm good, man. Yeah, yeah. Had a rough couple of weeks, but I'm all right. You care to elaborate on that?
Starting point is 00:02:33 Just like the specific circumstances that led to the arrest at Delaney Hall? Yeah, you know, we've been going down there every day. In fact, my folks are down there now to do the inspections, uniform cold construction, you know, you have to get a certificate of occupancy, all these other things. But they came in and just was like, you know, we're gonna do what we want to do. Our folks went down there, they wouldn't let them in. I was
Starting point is 00:02:57 surprised. So I had them go with y'all. I wanted to see what's going on. So they basically... So they wouldn't let y'all in to do the inspections? Yeah. So they basically was like, no, Gio, this is a private company. This is not the government, not ICE, nobody, just these guys. And so we took them to court and we're in a process of being in court and they just start putting detainees in the building while we were in court, like just total disrespect.
Starting point is 00:03:19 So we go out every morning to serve them, like give them a citation because we just wanna show a pattern that they have been disregarding the local law when we get in court. The Congress people went down there to do a walkthrough and they called me and was like, yo, we having a press conference. We want you to be at the press conference.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I said, cool. So I came down to the press conference. It was protesters outside, they out there every day by the way, saying, let the mayor in. That's what outside. They're out there every day, by the way, saying, let the mayor in. They were saying when I was at the gate, so the guy lets me in. The guard, he was like, come on inside of the gate. So I did. I stood there about an hour and a half. And then the special agent in charge of Homeland Security came, but ICE was already there. They didn't say anything to me. I was there for like an hour. They just looked at me, looking at them.
Starting point is 00:04:07 He came, approached me, started talking crazy, reckless. The Congress people got in it. He said, you know, he's gonna arrest me. Then the Congress woman was like, no. I said, you know what, I'm leaving. Don't worry about it. He said, yeah, get out. So I left.
Starting point is 00:04:21 I left and went on the other side of the fence. He got a phone call. They made a decision to leave the inside and come on the outside and arrest me on the other side of the fence. He got a phone call, they made a decision to leave the inside and come on the outside and arrest me on the city side. You know, and that's basically what happened. They took me to a real lockup somewhere and some place I didn't even know existed in Newark, by the way.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Wow. In a cell, took pictures, fingerprints, charged me with federal trespass, went to a hearing, the whole thing, you know, fingerprinted me again. I heard that. I heard you were subjected to like a second round of fingerprinting them mugshots. Yeah, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Why? How do you interpret that? I have no idea, man. They was like, one agency has it, not the other agency. I was like, can't y'all get it from them? Like, it's technology. I mean, they did this in the middle of the court. Like, we were leaving, the marshals came into the courtroom to escort me out
Starting point is 00:05:05 and my lawyer started going back and forth with them. And I just said, you know what, forget it, just take me. Wherever y'all going, I'm going, let's go. And I left. They took you to a place you didn't even know existed. The first time. Yeah, absolutely. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Like some nondescript factory looking place. Took me down in the basement, there's like real cells in there. What? Yeah, it's crazy. And you didn't know it was there? No, not at all. No, it's a Homeland Security spot that they have there.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Wow. Did you see other people detained there as well? No, I didn't see anybody. They had me off somewhere. So I didn't know what was going on down there. Do you think any of your criticism of Trump, do you think any of your criticism of Trump, do you think any of your criticism of Trump caused them to act like that?
Starting point is 00:05:47 Well, I just believe that they wanted to get the mayor of the city, you know, they want this, I'm gonna arrest judges, mayors, whoever's like there in charge, you just want to show that we have power and authority and you're not gonna defy us and we're gonna get whoever it is, you can get it too type of thing, right?
Starting point is 00:06:04 So I think that's what it was. And when they realized I was there, somebody sent them there to get me, you know? So that's basically what happened. I don't even think it's directly about me. I think it's about them and them trying to prove to everybody that they're untouchable and they basically do what they wanna do.
Starting point is 00:06:20 When they realized it was me, they sent a special agent in charge of the Homeland Security investigation of that region to come get me. That's like the police director going downtown and arresting somebody for shoplifting. You know, so. Doesn't usually happen.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Yeah, he comes by itself and does that. So legality, right? So this is a private building. Right. That law enforcement should be able to come in and see what's going on. So how do they have the right to stop y'all from going in? So shouldn't, in any other,
Starting point is 00:06:44 like if I have a private building and I say, y'all can't come in, y'all gonna kick the door down. For sure. But this case, y'all can't? Yeah, and like the fire inspectors and the health inspectors have more rights than police officers.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Like police officers need like a warrant to do specific things. The health inspector and the fire inspector can come in any building for safety, health and human resources or whatever it is. They can come into the building and say, look, this building is not safe, it's not fit, so forth and so on, and they won't let them in. And that's why I was totally shocked.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I'm like, this can't be real. I need to go see this myself. And it was right. They just wouldn't let anybody in. So what's inside this building? Has anybody seen what they're doing in This building nobody knows I mean CBS was a granted entry and they gave him like a limited tour and they keep saying it's like These criminals in there murderers rapists, you know the the Republican talking point, but nobody knows in there
Starting point is 00:07:37 You don't know what's going on who they are where they come from We don't know anything and you know, the building was used as a halfway house and a drug rehab 20 years ago. To change the use of the building now, you're gonna change it to a place with detainees. You have to get that checked, right? It has to be, you have to get a certificate of occupancy. You have to apply for that.
Starting point is 00:07:58 You have to get inspections. You may have to go to the planning board, zoning board, it depends. But you have to start that process. Anybody has to do that. It's not special. It's not like putting undue circumstances on these people. This is what everybody goes through.
Starting point is 00:08:12 That's why you say that you feel like these measures were an attempt to humiliate and degrade you. Absolutely. They cuffed me, threw me in a car. The security, well the police there was pretty decent, but taking me through that process. They put me in a cell, the whole fingerprint and the interrogation piece,
Starting point is 00:08:34 then doing it again, I just don't think it's necessary. I mean, the US attorney came to my hearing. It's a class C misdemeanor, $400 fine, you know, maximum 30 days in jail. She's at theanor, $400 fine. Wow. Maximum 30 days in jail. She's at the hearing, the US attorney. I'm like, what's happening here? So they're trying to give you the maximum, obviously. 30 days in prison and a $400 fine?
Starting point is 00:08:56 Yeah, I mean, this is probably what they're going after, but they don't have no, I don't think they have a case at all. I mean, first of all, it's not federal property. So federal trust, there's not even one federal employee that works there. Like all they do, they don't even they have a case at all. I mean, first of all, it's not federal property. So federal trust, there's not even one federal employee that works there. Like all they do, they don't have a lease.
Starting point is 00:09:08 They have a contract for them to house a few of their prisoners, that's it. This has nothing to do with the federal government at all. This is a private property with a private owner from Florida called the Geo Group, which owns hundreds of prisons. By the way, it has nothing to do with the federal government. If anything, if it was trespassing, they would have to call the local police, right?
Starting point is 00:09:30 And if they thought it was a conflict of interest, they should have called the state police. But they didn't call anybody, by the way, because they let me in the property. Wow. Yeah, the people who called were those ICE agents and everybody else who called their bosses and boss came down there and did what he did.
Starting point is 00:09:47 And he got orders to do that. Have you gotten any like messages like behind the scenes on some like, all right, don't step out of line again, it can get worse or something, you know what I mean? Pretty much. Okay, from who though? I mean, we were in the process of trying to figure out the charges and that, and these people are,
Starting point is 00:10:09 they serious, they committed to their foolishness, they threatened to arrest the Congresswoman who was there and multiple Congresswomen. They threatened to take us through this all the way to the end. But at the end of the day, we didn't do anything wrong. So, I mean, if they wanna waste the taxpayer's money, the government's money to go through this,
Starting point is 00:10:28 then let's go through it. We think we are correct, and I don't think they have any ground to stand on. What do you say to people who say they don't care about fighting for the rights of immigrants? They're just misinformed, and because we've allowed other people to kind of dictate or
Starting point is 00:10:47 control the narrative. Honestly, what we're fighting for is the due process for the 14th Amendment, the 4th and 5th Amendment, to be secure in your person, your papers, your property. People can't do anything to you, pull you over, throw you in jail without due process, without you going to court, without them having a warrant, all these specific things. And I think more than anybody, black people should be concerned about that because we are the number one victims of being searched without probable cause, of people coming to our property, our persons, disregarding our constitutional rights, the bill of rights,
Starting point is 00:11:24 the disregard for that. We should be the first, the Bill of Rights, the disregard for that, we should be the first ones concerned about it. And so we should stand up for people who are getting theirs violated, because we next. And I see that you also run for governor as well. Do you feel like this is a part of the plan to mess that up too? Well, I mean, I think it's the part of the plan
Starting point is 00:11:40 to mess everything up, you know? So I think what they meant for evil though, always turns to good. I mean, these people are, they're not thinking about what they're doing, they're just reacting, right? The person in charge of Homeland Security, well, the second in charge gets on TV,
Starting point is 00:11:57 starts saying, we stormed the place, it was a bus of migrants going in there, you know, we slammed ICE agents, like all this was fabrication. Now they just put themselves in a bad situation, because now you're saying things that are not true, because we have the videos. So I just start dropping the videos,
Starting point is 00:12:13 so people can see that I walked in there with my hands in my pocket, you know, very calm, you know, because the guy opened the gate and let us in. There was no kicking, no shoving, no pushing. I mean, they're used to lying and controlling the narrative, but this is a time they made a very grave mistake. Do you think that this will impact your bid for governor in any way? No, I don't think so. I mean, people who don't like what happened, don't like what happened
Starting point is 00:12:39 anyway. They wouldn't vote for me anyway. So I don't think I'm going to lose any votes based on what we did. I think what it does do though is it tells people that we willing to go all the way, that we're not just talking about defending people's rights, that we're going to challenge these people at every turn. I do wonder what message do you think your arrest sends to other elected officials
Starting point is 00:13:04 who might oppose these federal policies, who just oppose the Trump administration period? Well, I think these guys need to ratchet it up a little bit, need to figure out what we're gonna do in a collective way. These kind of individual things that are happening, it's not really enough. We need collective energy here, a cooperative plan of action
Starting point is 00:13:24 to push back against what's happening. Not all these separate states doing these suits. We should do a collective one. The irony is when I was going to court, the state of New Jersey was going to court with Donald Trump that same day. Our AG filed a suit against his signing of executive order undermining the 14th Amendment of birthright citizenship.
Starting point is 00:13:45 On that day he was in court, but it should have been Donald Trump versus New Jersey against Maryland, against California, against Maine. It should have been like 15 different states together. And I think we need collective action. This individual stuff is not working. You know, I've heard Adam say this, and I've heard a lot of other people say this to me.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Like there's an attack on black mayors. Do you think so? Well, I think black mayors have it a little bit more difficult than everybody else, obviously, just like black people do. Obviously, people expect more from you. You're gonna be scrutinized more. They think you have a magic wand, and because you black,
Starting point is 00:14:23 you're gonna make all the black people's problems disappear in five seconds. Obviously, that's not gonna happen. But I mean, ultimately, I think we have a harder road to tow, a heavier, a bolder move, but you know, it is what it is. This is what you signed up for. We knew this when we got into it. Like this was what it was gonna be.
Starting point is 00:14:43 How did it feel for you when you just saw the city of Newark really come to your defense? They was outside, people was pulling, not even just Newark, people was pulling up from all over the tri-state to ride for you. How did you feel when you came out and saw that? It made me feel good. The irony is when I was in there,
Starting point is 00:14:59 the guy locked me up after the judge said you could go. Took an extra 30, 40 minutes to let me out because he was trying to devise a plan to get me outside because there was so many people out there. He was like, oh, we gotta get these people from in front of the building. I said, you know how you get them out? Let me out.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Get me out. That's right. Let me out, they'll go. He said, I wish it was that easy. I said, it actually is that easy. So as I walk outta here, they're gonna walk away. And lo and behold, I walked out, we walked down the street, talked to them and everybody dispersed.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I mean, people not interested in doing nothing extra crazy, they just want justice and that's simply what it is. Now you're running for governor, what's the first thing you wanna do when you become governor? Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum selling artist, Danydy King alum, Aubrey O'Day, T.J. Robach and T.J. Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling
Starting point is 00:15:45 artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation. Aubrey O'Day is sitting next to us here. You are, as we sit here, right up the street from where the trial is taking place. Some people saw that you were going to be in New York and they immediately started jumping to conclusions. So can you clear that up? First of all, are you here to testify in the Diddy Trial? Aubrey will offer her opinions and expertise
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Starting point is 00:16:30 Listen to Amy and TJ Presents, Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best-selling author and meat-eater founder Stephen Rinella. I'll correct my kids
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Starting point is 00:17:42 And this is season two of the War on Drugs Podcast. Sir, we are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves.
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Starting point is 00:19:36 And I'm Olivia Carville. This is Levertown, a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts, Bloomberg and Kaleidoscope. Listen to Levertown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast. Find it on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. First thing on your mind, the first thing you want to do first day, second day, third day. Well, I mean, number one, I think we need to fix this budget. Our budget is, you know, is out of whack because we have given so many tax breaks to these multinationals
Starting point is 00:20:06 and we need to bring that money back and fix our tax code. But ultimately we need to be building affordable housing across the state of New Jersey. We need to be building 10, 20,000 units of affordable housing in the first two years. One, it'll reduce people's costs, reduce rents, mortgage. So I will put a rent control on all rent across the state of New Jersey for the first couple of years until we get the first units of housing built in the state. That needs to happen to begin stabilizing our economy and it'll make people believe we mean business, right?
Starting point is 00:20:38 Put thousands of people to work. So dealing with this affordable housing crisis is like number one on my list. Now there's a lot of people in this race for governor. Now how do you step above all those people? Because right now looking at polls, and polls mean a lot of nothing a lot of times, but how do you make sure you're ahead of those polls to make sure people come out and support you and that you're really taking this serious? Yeah, well, I mean the polls are fluctuating every week.
Starting point is 00:21:00 They change here and there, which means that it's like a fourth quarter game. It's gonna be whoever gets there can put people out to the polls to vote. And whoever wants it better than, more than anybody else is the person I think is gonna get over the line. But ultimately, I think people can see my record, and we've been putting that out there,
Starting point is 00:21:19 the things that we've done in the city of Newark. And we believe that if you could do it in Newark, you could basically do it anywhere. Our problem, if the state has a cold, Newark has the flu, right? So our problems are a lot more intractable and difficult. And our ability to mitigate those issues makes us uniquely qualified to deal with the issues
Starting point is 00:21:36 around the state. I saw something, it was an Emerson College poll, and it said that 56% of voters were undecided about who they wanted to vote for in the Democratic primary? Yeah, I don't think it's that big. That's great. Yeah, Emerson, they did a text poll.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Those text polls are incredibly unreliable. They texting people and they texting a small portion of people, but there is a huge undecided number, but it's not 56%. And you always have to understand, and I know we know when they polling people, it's not really us, because we not answering the phone.
Starting point is 00:22:07 So we have to be a little weary of those polls, a little weary of them and really just get on the ground and keep working. I mean the poll said that Kamala Harris was gonna win, right? The poll said she was gonna win New Jersey by double digits and she only won by five percentage points. Newark Airport, man, what the hell is going on Mayor Barack? Like what is the problem with Nuuk Airport? How did they get here to where people are saying
Starting point is 00:22:31 it's unsafe to fly out of Nuuk Airport? They say don't fly out of Nuuk. They said don't ever be in it. I don't think it's unsafe because they keep delaying and canceling flights. If they weren't doing that, then it would be unsafe. The reality is there's too many planes in the airspace. Air traffic controllers is not enough.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Our air traffic controllers walked off because of stress. They don't want to... When they're losing contact with airplanes, they don't want to be the one responsible for 90 people, 150 people going down, so they're walking away. The radar system in that area doesn't work. The infrastructure is broke, so... But the Trump administration came in, so they're walking away. The radar system in that area doesn't work. The infrastructure is broke.
Starting point is 00:23:06 But the Trump administration came in, got rid of 400 people, blamed DEI, and now they realize it's a real problem and none of that is gonna help it. So now they're trying to put money in infrastructure and hire more air traffic controllers. But they need to do that rapidly, like in emergency. And in the meantime, we just need to slow those flights down.
Starting point is 00:23:24 We need to do the same kind of patterns that's happened out in LaGuardia. See, LaGuardia is in the same airspace, but not having this problem. They're not having this problem because they have less flights and they have more time between flights, right? The flights coming in and the flights going in, there's more space between those.
Starting point is 00:23:37 In order to just, we just fly places, fly in and out, in and out, in and out. We're acting like there is no problem, right? But there is a problem. And so. We acting like there is no problem, right? But there is a problem. And so as we act like there's no problem, they're canceling flights and delaying flights. And ultimately they just need to not have those flights until they get this in order.
Starting point is 00:23:54 So you said people, they were walking off, why? Because they just were stressed out? Yeah, they- What were they stressed out about? I mean, to not have contact with an airplane for 30 seconds, for 60 seconds, for 90 seconds is a lot. I mean, if you're an air traffic controller and you can't control what's going on
Starting point is 00:24:09 and somebody crashes and dies on your watch, I mean, obviously that's gonna cause a bit of stress. So folks walked off. And Newark is unfortunately at insult to injury there, you know, fixing one of the runways at the same time. So that should be done prayerfully by the end of June, unfortunately add insult to injury there, you know, fixing one of the runways at the same time. So that should be done prayerfully by the end of June, but we need more air traffic
Starting point is 00:24:30 controllers and we need the infrastructure fixed immediately. We need emergency spending, emergency funding to get that stuff done like yesterday. But nobody knew that about the infrastructure beforehand? Of course they did. They knew. They knew that the infrastructure was old. They also knew that we didn't have enough air traffic controllers.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Not just newer, but period, right? And that's why we were having incidents. When the Trump administration first came in, you seen all these airline issues that were going on, which signaled that there was a problem, and instead of dealing with the problem, they began blaming DEI and continued to lay people off instead of hiring people, fixing the infrastructure
Starting point is 00:25:07 so we won't have this emergency situation where we are now. So finally they've understood that this is a real problem so now they're trying to address it but it's not happening fast enough. But in the meantime, I would say they need to stop some of these planes from going off the ground. Yeah, you're gonna be inconvenienced
Starting point is 00:25:23 because you can't get as many flights as you could have got before, but safety is more important than anything else, I would say. Now, I wanted to ask about the congresswoman that is also going against you in this race. They said that she has supported a lot of the things that Donald Trump has put to the table,
Starting point is 00:25:40 and you've been very vocal about that. What are your thoughts on some of the things that she's trying to follow up with and that she's trying to follow up with and that she's campaigning for? Well, you know, everybody in the primary now is progressive, right? But all of the progressive leaning organizations
Starting point is 00:25:54 endorse my candidacy. All of the progressive unions, all of the progressive organizations for people's organizations in progress, 32BJ, Working Families, because I'm a real progressive, I'm not just playing one on TV. The reality is, here's a woman who supported the border wall, who supported $4 billion
Starting point is 00:26:13 to go towards Trump's border wall. A person that voted against immigrants while she was the congressperson, who is opposed to Immigrant Trust Act in New Jersey, who that says that we have to not ask people their status, that our police can't cooperate with ICE, that we have to make sure immigrants get the same services as any other people or residents of the state of New Jersey. She voted, she is opposed to that and voted against things when she was the governor.
Starting point is 00:26:42 I mean, excuse me, when she was the congressperson. So the reality is I don't think that she's progressive at all. Now you went to her hometown of Montclair to make that statement, to make sure that the residents of Montclair know who they're voting for. Why was that important to you?
Starting point is 00:26:57 Well, I went there to really talk about the fact that they have a plan for everything but black people, right? That the reality is they come up with all of these strategies and plans that they have a plan for everything but black people, right? That, you know, the reality is they come up with all of these strategies and plans that they're so thoughtful about, but none of it involves us. But they keep coming in our community asking us for things,
Starting point is 00:27:12 but they have no plan to help us. When we were on a panel, they asked her about the wealth gap, and she started talking about third graders' reading level. And so I got upset, right? I said something on a panel, and I said something in the Montclair. I said, you know, reading levels, we need to make sure that our kids can read on grade level,
Starting point is 00:27:28 but don't get confused that the wealth gap has nothing to do with reading. As a matter of fact, income and wealth are two different things. Income, you could say that, you know, if you have a better education, you can get a better job, and your income could be better. But wealth, you could be dumb as a doornail and have wealth.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Your parents can pass down businesses and real estate and all the things to you, and you can could be better. But wealth, you could be dumb as a doornail and have wealth. Your parents can pass down businesses and real estate and all the thing to you and you can mess it up, but you still have wealth, right? You know, Donald Trump has wealth, not because he's brilliant, but because his family had wealth. I mean, this country has denied us wealth since we came here. Like slaves helped to develop wealth
Starting point is 00:28:03 for other people who've passed their wealth down. And because she don't understand that, and she talks about it like in a tone deaf way, it kind of undermines our ability to destroy a wealth gap that's actually doubling in the state of New Jersey right now. And it went from $300,000 to $600,000 because of the lack of home ownership and business development in our state. And if you're gonna be the governor, you should know that, right? So she's actually supposed to be coming up here,
Starting point is 00:28:31 I think this week or next week. What's one question that you would think is the most important question that she should answer? That, what's her plan for black and brown people? But more importantly, black women, right? Black women are the most committed and dedicated constituent that the Democratic Party has, and they're treated the worst in New Jersey
Starting point is 00:28:53 or in this country. I mean, she's endorsed by the mainstream Democratic Party, but they have no plan for black people, they never did. They have no plan for Latinos, they never did. And they have no plan for working people. I mean did. They have no plan for Latinos, they never did. And they have no plan for working people. I mean, the Democratic Party is in charge of the state and working people are struggling the most. We can't pay our bills, our childcare is too high, right?
Starting point is 00:29:13 Insurance is too high. In fact, if you got the wrong credit score, you might not get no insurance, right? Your rent is too high, your mortgage is too high. And we still giving tax breaks to billionaires in New Jersey and can't take care of working people and you're supposed to be the party of working families. She should have an answer for those things.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Is running for governor hard when you still got to govern as mayor? And the reason I brought that up is because everybody, well, not everybody, but there were people saying that this was a publicity stunt when you got arrested. Like you just trying to drum up attention for your campaign for governor. What do you say? I. Like you just trying to drum up, you know, attention for your campaign for governor. What do you say?
Starting point is 00:29:47 I got a lot of ways to draw up attention in court and jail, ain't one of them, you know? But ultimately, like, look, I just came from the gym that day, you know, I was going to get a shake to go back to the office. My policy advisor reminded me that they were having a press conference. I went down there for that press conference to support my congresspeople. I didn't expect that they
Starting point is 00:30:08 would do that. And honestly, when they started threatening, I thought they was bluffing. Like when I left the property, if I wanted to get arrested, I would have stayed on the property. I actually left. And 20 years ago, I would have took flight. They said, they're coming to arrest you. I would have been fences, cars, everything. You know, the reality of the matter is nowhere for me to go. Like, if they're gonna arrest you, where am I gonna go? They're gonna come. Like, so if you're gonna do it, just do it now. And that's really what my sentiment was.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Like, I don't believe you got it in you, that this is not gonna happen. This can't happen. When the congressman told me they're coming to arrest you, I said, why? What did I do? I didn't do anything. That's exactly what my response was. What did I do? I wasn't like, oh, come arrest me. I was like, I didn't do anything. That's exactly what my response was. What did I do? I wasn't like, oh, come arrest me.
Starting point is 00:30:46 No, no, no. I was like, I didn't do anything. How would you, how are you gonna arrest me? I'm not even on your property anymore. And they came out and did it anyway. Did that confirm to you what type of political climate we're in? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Very, very dangerous.
Starting point is 00:30:58 The fact they still going through this, that my lawyers are still going back and forth with these people, it still, it tells you clearly that they are committed to this stuff and the question becomes how committed are we? And I don't believe we are as committed as we need to be to turn this thing over. At any point were you like afraid for your life,
Starting point is 00:31:16 the fact that you were taken to an offsite factory? That you ain't ever seen before? Yeah, like what was going through your mind? Absolutely, I mean, I guess when you, I'm a grown man now with families and when you get arrested, like what was going through your mind? Absolutely, I mean, I guess when you, I'm a grown man now with family, so when you get arrested, all kind of things going through your head, who picked my children up from school,
Starting point is 00:31:30 like I got a meeting tonight, you know, all kind of stuff. And you was hungry, you didn't even get to shake. That's right. Did I leave my house door open? All kind of stuff is going through your head, like, you know, really fast, and they taking you somewhere you don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Like, you could hear them talking. Where we going? Did you detail follow you there? Yeah, they followed me. They came. One of the detail got in a separate car and drove behind them and got, and went to where I was going.
Starting point is 00:31:54 But ultimately, like, you don't know where they taking me. I'm not going to the county jail. Am I going to Bergen County? Esses County? What's going on? And where they gonna put me at when I get in the county jail? I mean, that's the things I was thinking about, right?
Starting point is 00:32:06 Then I got to the place, I'm like, what is this place? I mean, what are they gonna do? Do anybody know I'm here, right? And all of those things are going through your head. So yeah, I mean, fear gets in your heart and you just pray that, you know, fear don't turn you into a coward. Well, we appreciate you for joining us.
Starting point is 00:32:23 And I'm sure, you know, you'll be back up here before the race actually happens. What date is that? June 10th. June 10th, that's right. Well, ladies and gentlemen, Mayor Ross Baraka, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Wake that ass up. In the morning. The Breakfast Club. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation. It wasn't all bad, but I don't know that any of the good was real.
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