The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Raven Johnson and Ta'niya Latson Talk WNBA Draft, S.C. Gamecocks, College & Early Career Adversities + More

Episode Date: April 14, 2026

Today on The Breakfast Club, Raven Johnson and Ta'niya Latson Talk WNBA Draft, S.C. Gamecocks, College & Early Career Adversities. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Raven Johnson and Teneer Latson. Good morning. Tanya, what I said? Tanya, I'm sorry, what the hell? I knew that. Tanya Latson. How are you, Tanya? Great.

What's going on? How are y'all feeling? Good. Amazing. Nine days ago, y'all was competing for the national championship. Now y'all getting ready for the WNBA draft. How is that whirlwind been? Man, it's crazy.

Like a dream come true. You know you dream of this moment, and now you're here. Let's see where the win take us today. But didn't it feel like y'all was just in college yesterday? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a quick turnaround.

Yeah. Do you have to adjust to, like, I guess, being an adult now? Yeah. The college don't be feeling like the real world, do it? Yeah. It's like closing one chapter and trying to, like, get into another one. Like, it's like a quick, quick turnaround. Yeah.

What emotions are hitting you today, Tenea? What emotions are hitting you today? Man, keep missing with my name. Tia. T. T. No, you're good. I'm sorry, T.

You're good. I'm excited. T. That's why. Every time I see, I'd be like, what up, T? Denai, I'm sorry. I'm excited. I mean, it's a blessing. It's a dream come true, like Raven said. What about you, Raven? Man, I'm happy. You know, you work towards this moment, and now it's here. It's spending with loved ones and, you know, what team gets you.

I'm ready, whatever team gets. What's that right there? Why y'all got the WMBA hoodies on already? Oh, we went to the Empire State Building. They gave us a new collection or whatever, it dropped. We're rocking it. Get a little bit of hockey. You know, it's a little flage looking. You all ready for tomorrow? Y'all ain't got no fire fits, though.

Who? For tomorrow, for the draft. Today. Draft. Today. Oh, shit. God, damn. What the hell is going on?

He's excited for you guys to be here. He's excited. You know, in South Carolina. You're always excited. All right. Yeah. How long you've been playing in the outfits? A long time.

Since the night after the championship? No, before that. Before that. Before that? Yeah. Oh, before that? Yeah. Oh, we coming hard, don't.

Yeah. Who pays for that? Coach, shout out the coat. Shout out the city trains. A lot of sponsorship. Okay. City trains? Yep.

The store, right? Yeah. What? What's wrong with city trains? I mean, city trains is great. But you can't wear that for a draft fit. No, no, no, no. They're like sponsoring the party.

Oh, got you, got you, got you, got you, got you, got you, got you. Coats. Don Stanley. Absolutely. No, the brand coat. Oh, I thought you were talking about Dawn Selly too. You said coach. But you need some coffee, boy.

Hold on, wait. So coach, the fashion house, they're dressing you guys for your draft. Yeah, dressing her. Dressing her. Dressing you. So who's dressing you? I'm wearing Revolve. So, yeah.

Revolve got some brands under there. Yeah. Oh, you can't tell us. Okay. So Revolve is like, so Revolve is like a big brand. Cardi B has a whole. partnership with them, but they have a lot of, like, big other fashion brands under them, from designer to, like, just really good non-designer brands.

They're a little pricey, but they got good price points, but they do a lot of, like, custom collaborations and capsule collection. So is this going to be, like, a long-running partnership with you and them? I mean, I don't know. We just got to stay tuned and see. I don't know that. I love to see that. Do y'all even want them shouting Revolve out?

Okay, okay, okay. I like to see that, though, because I know, like, with the WNBA and all the attention that people are paying to it now, like the tunnel fits and all that matters, but the partnerships and the businesses really matter as well, too. So happy that y'all going into it early. Yeah, thank you. Y'all played in high school together

and then y'all reunited for your senior years at South Carolina. What was that reconnection like? It was just like a surreal moment. We didn't think we was going to play college basketball again together, like, well, play together at all again. So being able to play in our last year together, it was fun.

We had a lot of fun. You know, we dreamed a moments like this, so just to be able to do. do it with her. It means a lot. What about you, Rib? When she hit the transfer portal, I was like, Tenaya, let's redo this. Like, you know, you know how it is. I want to play with her. It just feels like, I don't know, like a dream come true. Like, in high school, I wanted to always, you know, I wanted to go to college with her, but that didn't happen. She went to Florida State and was very successful.

I went to South Carolina, and I was successful, too, but, you know, got the scene in a way to bring close ones back together, and it's no better feeling to just play with her the last season and do what we did. What was that conversation like y'all senior years in high school when y'all decided to, I guess, not go to college together? Well, Raven a year older than me. So she left and went off before I went off. So I moved back to Miami and played basketball in high school there.

But, you know, I just wished her the best. I knew she was going to do great things, win championships. But she knew I was going to Florida State, too. And I just went to go make a name for myself. Did you ever consider South Carolina at all before Florida Tech? Nah, I didn't. Dang! I did it.

I did it. I did not consider South Carolina. Why? Just because you from Florida? No, I just really wanted to do my own thing. I wanted to venture out. I wanted to make a name for myself. And I am from Florida.

So it's like, you know, hometown. But, yeah, I mean, they had everything that I needed in order for me to be the best player that I could be. You didn't try to convince her, really? Oh, I try my best. But we had, like, what, 16 players on the roster then? I was thinking of her, like, been successful to playing, and I know that's what she wanted.

So I feel like, you know, what she committed. to was a great decision. It ended all right. She came to South Carolina and it was meant to be. Have you ever, Raven sat back and thought about all the adversity

you had to go through? I have about it. Especially now when you're, you know, tonight of the draft and everything you went through in college, but have you ever thought

about what that freshman year was and even how you rebounded from that? Yeah, I think about it all the time. It's crazy because we had like a little seminar and Tina Thompson was talking about adversity and she brought me up. I'm like, again.

But yeah, I think about it all the time. Like I went through a lot, a high with the highs, a lot of lower lows. And just to be where I am today, it was hard to get through those phases. But I couldn't be here without loved ones or people that was in my ear supporting me because that could have turned out another way. I could have quit. I could have just been a person that I probably, you know, wasn't even people who didn't even

know who didn't even know who I was, you know, they was like you gain, what, 20, 30 pounds? I thought it was 40. Yeah, I didn't want to say that. What you mean, you, man. It's a story of resilience now. You're right. You're right. You're actually to say 50.

You should put it. 40, 50 pounds, I guess. I remember when tonight will see me. She's like, dang, you're like, that's a real friend. That's a real friend. I mean, I had to tell her, you know, but. She did. You know, I was just happy that she got it off of her, you know.

What did you say to her? What did you all to each other? I was like, you're looking a little big now. Dang. She did. No, she did. I'm snatched. Yeah, she snatched now.

Did that motivate you to get in shape when she said that to you? Or you already had that motivation? Yeah, no. I was. trying to get back right but I lost myself for a minute yeah sometimes you gotta go through those low like the bottom of lows to get to the high the high the high the high the high high the high the high the high the high is and to be successful honestly and I think I'm glad I went through diversity honestly because it made me mentally strong I'm sure it's some type of depression

probably said in right oh yes which caused you to gain the weight of stuff like what what was it because it was just the injury it's not like you couldn't to bounce back from an injury like what was it that really put you in that mode ocean media I mean you You know, with this generation social media could be a good and a bad thing. And I think, you know, if you live by social media, you've got to die by it too. And I think, you know, I went viral on social media.

Like every time you got on social media, you see Raven Johnson, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You just that in the third. And it wasn't for a good reason. It's for a bad reason. So, you know, I didn't want to go. I didn't want nobody to see me because everybody look at social media

and, you know, everybody just joke on our book, try to bully this person. Don't even know the person outside of basketball. Like, I'm more than just an athlete. Like, you just don't know me. I was the sweetest person if you get to meet me. But, you know, it made me, like, lose myself. Like, I just, I never went through anything like that.

But, you know, everything happens for a reason. It's all gospel. How was that when you saw your dog going through that, see? I mean, I watched that game, you know, when she got waved off and stuff like that. Obviously, I text her immediately after the game. I remember texting you, and I was like, oh, no, like, you need to, you know, get your confidence back. Like, get back to the Raven Johnson that I know, especially the one I played with in high school. So, I mean, I just tried to insoling.

still confidence in her and, you know, give her, you know, some type of pick me up, because I know she was feeling down in that moment. I know she was going through a lot of emotions, too, so I just had to try to remind her who she was. Was it hard to be receptive of stuff like that, even though it was from somebody that loved you because you were actually going through it at the time? Yeah, no, I'm close with her. I know. I know she means it from her heart, but when it's people that I don't know, you know, I don't know if it's genuine or I don't know if it's like, you know, they feel bad or they just trying to play in my face. But, you know, I was getting, I was was listening to people that were close to me that I trust

like loved ones but I also was listening to my teammates at the time which was Letitia Me here, those Zaya Cook Boston, Coach Staley, who's one of the best people you can even be around like he was in my ear too so yeah they made a lot to me. What was y'all first honest impression of each other? Raven was bubbly like

she invited me. I was from Hawaii at the time. I was living in Hawaii and we met at a camp in Vegas at a McDonald's and I remember she was telling me she was from Atlanta she was older than me but she always embraced me as a sister and I feel like you know when you young you can just make friends easily I mean it's not hard so you know the day we got back to camp we was just like stuck like glue after that like we ain't leave each other side

everywhere I went she went so just her her energy and who she is as a person like she's a kind heart person who was your first impression oh yeah so we were at McDonald's did you see this Yeah. Yeah. We were at McDonald's. We're building relationships. You'll get that 40 pounds back then. Hey, y'all.

No, we was at McDonald's. I met her, and I was like, like, where are you from? She said Hawaii. Yo, that just shocked me right there. I'm like, I never met somebody from Hawaii. Like, why are you here? You from Hawaii? And I used to, I was asking her, like, how is Hawaii?

I was asking her a lot of questions. I don't know if she was annoyed. I didn't even care. But I was asking her questions. And ever since then, we've been, like, close. Like, we've been locked. locked in like it's been genuine friendship like like this is my bloods my blood sister everything so yeah I'm glad I met her honestly so you was the one that opened up for us off the court like

well I walked up to her I remember yeah he was like I was sad but let me tell y'all she ain't no quiet stuff I've grown yeah she said she's grown I've grown so you you said it's kind of hard making friends at a certain point right yeah but you I mean you would think because y'all are playing basketball you got your team members that like that kind of be becomes your family instantly, even then it's still hard? Well, I mean, like, obviously your teammates are going to be your friends. Like, you can make friends on your team easily, but outside of basketball, like, just finding genuine people that really want to mess with you for who you are and not for what you do.

Yeah. That's the hardest part, I feel like, and then we don't have a lot of time. Either our schedules are jam-packed, so it's hard to, like, really have a social life outside of basketball and build relationships. But, you know, trying to get on campus, meeting new people, I feel like, especially going into the league too like just meeting new people I feel like that's what's gonna be like the biggest thing for me that's gonna be so hard

I know and y'all get into the money like you're not gonna know know who wanna be around y'all just for who y'all are as opposed to what they think y'all got yeah exactly dang that's great yeah you ain't thought about that I was gonna say y'all haven't had that comment because y'all have been out there and popping right but now it's like it levels up yeah I look at everybody like you know I like meeting new people worry worry but you should though I only saying

don't expect you from other people is what I would think. And that's a crazy thing I do. Yeah, she does. I'm kind of like the friend that to tell her like, nah, watch out for this person. Yes, yes, yes. Because Raven can be too sweet sometimes. Yeah.

Have that kindness ever been taken for weakens? Yeah. Yeah, once you cross me once, it's like, yeah, I'm not trusting me anymore. I try to get people with benefit of the doubt because you just never know. You never know what they go through, what's their situation, so.

How was y'all born off the court Help the chemistry on the court Sure we have a lot of like real conversations with each other Like we can talk about any and everything From relationships Basketball just life in general So I feel like that connection and that sisterhood Definitely translates on the court

I mean we both take our craft really seriously So we can hold each other accountable too And you know it's just a real friendship Outside of just being teammates And long-term teammates I feel like we balance each other like with our personalities like we're two different people but we balance each other like she tells me when to you know not say that thing or say or when to say it or how to say it

and then i'd be like tonight all right showed them you know bring more bring more like you know she can bring more so i think we balance each other right there and i think that's that's why we're so healthy like it's a healthy friendship relationship yeah i feel like even throughout this process like being here for the draft and stuff like i'm her comfort person she's my comfort person like we look for each other when we, like, too far apart, or we feeling like, you know, I need a break. We look for each other. So, yeah.

How do y'all, I mean, I guess you go, I know if you can plan it, but have you guys started thinking about, like, as you go into the WNBA and schedules change and things get a little bit different, like how y'all still keep that, like, protection and safe space that you have for each other? Hopefully the team draft us together. I know. How that's going to happen? Both of you all projected to go in the top time?

Yeah. I mean, you never know, some trade. Yeah, you never know. There's some magic in this thing. Yeah, but if not, like, we're just going to keep in touch, like we did when I was at Florida State and she was at South Carolina, you know, continuously calling each other, texting each other, checking up on each other.

I feel like this bond will never, like, never shake. Like, this is, like, my sister for life. I see your moms together. I didn't know your moms are so cool. Oh, yeah. Like, your mom's part. Yep. Yeah.

Go way back. Like, when we first met, amen. Yeah, exactly. How far it goes that. In this world, right, where athletes are constantly judged, how important is it to have somebody around you who like actually knows the real you oh it's super important i mean like you just know it's genuine like you can go to them about any little thing like when you're comfortable around somebody you can be yourself and i think

that's really the main thing you really want to do when you meet new teammates or have somebody on your team and you know you have that support so i think that goes a long way and being yourself is the main thing like you can't be yourself around somebody then you don't need to be around that person yeah now correct me if i'm wrong but i feel like after that championship game, right? I feel like Raven, you felt more bad for tonight. Yeah, I was upset. I did, actually.

I felt it hurt me because I told her that I wanted to win a championship for her. Like, she didn't come here for no reason. I know she made a lot of sacrifices throughout the season. Like, I'd have so much heart for her. Like, things she doesn't win, it hurts me. Or things she doesn't receive, like, it hurts me because I know her sacrifices.

I know how hard of a worker she is. So not winning that championship, it was, it meant it was bigger than just me. Like, it was for people that came here, Medina. Like, they came here doing a national championship. It was for Coach Staley. Like, she goes through a lot. Like, she run through walls for us, girls. So I feel like just to reward her with a championship would have meant so much.

But, I mean, we reward her in another way. Like, we were great human beings to her. We fought for her like she fought for us. And I think, you know, there's no better way if we could have won the national championship. But we reward her in another way. And that's just being great human beings and great girls. Would you say y'all overachieved the last couple years, even though, you know, being a Gamecock fan,

it feel like we should be in the championship every year. But it feels like the last couple of years, they haven't necessarily projected y'all to be there, but y'all always make it. That's fine. I feel like, you know, I like to be, honestly, I like to be on the not, the underdog. The underdog.

If that makes sense. Like, you don't come in with a lot of pressure. But I feel like with this team, we didn't look into all that. Like, we had one goal. Now with the win a national championship. We might not win the SEC championship or we might have lost some games throughout the season. But that didn't stop us from one mission

and that was to get to the national championship. And I think those gangs made us closer. Those games made us actually realize like what we need to work on. Everybody needs to get better at one specific thing. Everybody needs to start playing together. It was like little things like that. Like we had a whole new starting five.

I was the only starter that came back. Four new starters. They don't even know the system. They had to get used to the system. They had to get comfortable with their roles. Like it's different roles. She came from Florida States scoring, what, 50 balls, 60 balls. They had to, what, come from?

score a 20 ball or 11 ball a night and she's not used to that but that takes a maturity like she has to be mature to be in a role like that then medina she's not used to the pressure he's not used to being that dumb you know post players that came before her lia boston camilla a a jia wilson like she's holding a legacy like people in front of her so she i don't even think she understand like what her position meant she was just out there playing and she had a lot of high with the highs and low at the lows but she have teammates and girls like us who's genuine that want to see her succeed and a coach like coach staley once again a great person who's helping her through those tough battles and i think that means a lot with this team and that's why

at the end of the day we made it to the national championship with a lot of daughters and that came to our bun that came to we wanted to go play for each other i think that goes a long way when you try to make a have a team makes a national championship money and i did you do you appreciate the process yeah i did i feel like you know i had everything going for myself at florida state and i wanted to challenge myself i asked god for a challenge and he gave me that so you know it was a sacrifice it was obviously hard, but I wouldn't change my decision at all. I'll 100% do it again because I know going into the league, I'm going to need those things to prepare me.

Training camp coming up, playing with other pros, not taking as many shots, you're going to hit that wall. But I'd rather have hit it in my senior year than in training camp. You know what I mean? So mentally, I think it made me stronger, and it challenged me and it made me grow. So what did this year teach you about basketball beyond just scoring bucket? Yeah.

You know you can do that. Yeah, the intangibles matter, like rebound and getting a steel, making an impact in other ways than just scoring. Because when you're playing on the team full of pros, you may not have to go score 20 a night to win a game. Like, you can go get a rebound or a steel that can change the whole momentum of a game. And just being like a good teammate too. Like I feel like I was a little selfish back then.

Like I always thought about me, me, me, me, and not we. So I think coming to South Carolina, it definitely changed my perspective on a lot of things. I saw you say coming to South Carolina was the best thing that prepared you for the WNBA. Yeah, it did. It did. I feel like just everything from the coaching, the resources, the nutrition, how to take care of my body, the resources.

So I feel like that's definitely going to translate to the league. Hot wings. Ravens said your nutrition was hot wings. I like hot wings too. Flats or drums. Well, you, y'all get balanced, right? Hot wings one day, decelerate the next day. She's from Atlanta, so hot wings and her blood.

Hot wings. fried chicken. You can run it off. You said what? You can run it off. You know I wanted to ask you, you being a point guard, playing for Don Stead,

that's a different level of pressure. Like, like, it looks like accountability on a different level. Can you talk to us about that? Oh, it's hard. Like, I came to her, I'm like, why is she yelling at me? She needs to yell at the people

that making mistakes. Like, I get yelled at for a little, like other people mistakes, and I had to get used to that. And sometimes it messes my head up. I think, you know, calling plays off of my head. Sometimes she may call this play, and I may see something different and call another play. And I think that's where, you know, you got to trust your point guard on the floor,

try to kind of be a version of her on the floor. But I think, you know, when it comes to my teammates, they trust me with leading them, calling the right set, and when to call them. But it's hard. Like, you got to, the margin of room for error It's very small at that point in guards. You better know your P's and Q's when it comes to the plays.

You better know where people like the ball. You better just be somebody that can win, win the game, honestly, who she can trust. And I think, you know, that comes with time. A game manager. Yeah, that comes with time. Like, for my freshman to, what, fifth year, senior year, I think that came with time. They have people in front of me like Henney, Ty Harris, not even that. Daya Cook, she showed me a lot, too.

So having people like that, that showed me a lot of great rope before it was in my time. That's in the process. So when new players coming to this system of South Carolina, right, GameCock Women's Basketball, you know, what do you tell them about being a part of that basketball coach? You got to have you. You better be ready. Better be mentally prepared. It's basketball.

Like, if you love basketball, you commit to South Carolina. Like, you've got to be about basketball. Like, they're serious about basketball. They're serious about winning. I think it's just a standard. Like, it's a standard there. They create pros. They create first-round picks.

And if you want to be that, then you're going to go there. to realize that it's not no gimmick. Like you're not going there to have fun. You're going there to be about business, about winning national championships. Because the standard is high. And if you don't hold that, if you don't get held to that standard

or if you don't hold that standard because it's people in front of you that you're planning for. It's a legacy that you're trying to build. And it's bigger than you. It's bigger than just South Carolina on your chest. And I think, you know, I think that's what people,

honestly, when they get there, that's what they realize. So, yeah, it's going to be hard. It starts in practice. Like, our practices are super hard. We beat up on each other. Like, it's that hard. starting the summer we was playing one-on-one what two on two on two three-on-threes

and everybody was attacking each other we like we got a season ahead of us like yeah who was doing the most cooking in the one-on-one you was cooking in the one-on-one girl girl it was very competitive like super like people were literally pushing each other for the ball like that's what you want to see honestly but we're like we got a season that just tell you a lot about this team

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Like, it's crazy. Tonight, what's something Coach Daly told you that changed how you see, not just the game of basketball, but yourself? True. Just everything. I feel like my all-around. game like she she taught me a lot about myself and just like how I can be impactful without scoring 20

a night or taking 20 shots tonight um you know she talked a lot about efficiency and improving that and um she just instilled a lot of confidence in me like coach was real laid back our relationship was way different from you know like raving in her relationship um it was just like I'm a laid back person she a laid back person she's kind of like I'm gonna give you what you give me and you can have real like transparent conversations with her. She always just gave me freedom to be me. And I feel like that's what you want in a coach. And yeah, she gave me great advice too.

Y'all are excited about the, because the collective bargaining agreement that they reached, and I know y'all have a lot of predictions for your first years, but y'all coming in at a good time. A great time. Yeah, y'all excited about coming in under that new agreement. Yeah, they were telling us a lot about it. Like, in our little seminars, and we were like, wow,

like, y'all got paid that much. Like y'all put blood sweats and tears for that But shout out to them Like we wouldn't be here without them But I used to make it sound like they're dinosaurs Or something Like they're just some old praise stories It's like people to send them

They're talking about the WNBPA The Player Association I mean you got people like Tina Thompson That we just met I mean she Get to get paid nothing And she put her blood like The legend

Fought for the game To get to where we are And we're coming in at the right You coach Stanley ain't get paid nothing Exactly, and look at her now. Like, you know, that's what I'm saying. Like, shout out, shout out to the dinosaurs. Oh, God, damn.

Wow. Wow. Listen. He's just like that because he won. There's nothing wrong being a dinosaur. I don't know. We got to be on somebody's shoulders. You're a dinosaur to them?

No, first of all. First of all. Dinosaurs have been ancient. I might be like. How old are you tonight? I'm 32. I'm 34. I'm not a dinosaur.

Say, I have to auntie, y'all. I have to be honty over dinosaurs. Don't scratch your head. Yeah, 30. Yes. Yeah. you want to scratch yours because the wiggle shift. Shut up.

This is my hair. Don't do that. This is my, y'all. That's right. Yeah. At all. Can you tell us the role Anthony Edwards who played in your life? Oh, yeah.

A great role model. I think just who he is. He's literally himself. I think he don't change in no shape or form. He's going to say what he wants to say. He's going to be who he wants to be. And he's from Atlanta. I mean, there's nothing that big is flat.

What he says, lingo, everything. And I think, you know, when you look at a player like that who just themselves who saves whatever funny funny too i'm funny too and i think you know great inspiration i seen his hard work i remember in high school when i first was getting trained by coach justin um i was watching him train i'm like this is how hard you got to go and train like this is like like he's dedicated they got what three sessions a day i'm like three sessions like i can't do that and he was just telling me all the night ends and hours he put in and just seeing that made it motivated me like he reclassed up it was number one pick i'm like who can do that who number who reclassed who

up and we had none more picked and I thought that was just so amazing like amazing like I was just watching the process and what he went through and that really motivated he motivates me to this day honestly so yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah wow oh people don't talk about that man like people don't talk about the support that a lot of men actually have for women's basketball and how important is that to have that support from it's really important I mean a lot of like NBA guys like KD, like, I remember he texts me a couple times throughout the season and like he just, you know, he's a really big fan of like women's basketball. He's always talking about it. So just seeing other guys like, you know, Ant Man and stuff like that really get into women's basketball.

I mean, it allows us to outreach like another audience, not just women. Like it can be men. It can be anybody watching women's basketball. And I feel like that's what's bringing a lot of eyes to, to women's basketball. The eyes like from my perspective, right, it's like I watch. the shift but I don't watch the games but I know that people are talking about the WNBA way more to caring about where the players are going way more like when Angel Reese they announced Atlanta the tickets skyrocketed jersey sales all of that like yeah like the celebrity around it is a lot different it's changing you guys on the inside of it how do y'all feel when that shift is happening we feel good like we come in the league

at a right at a good at a good time in season 30 I mean this is like a historic season too with the new CVA and stuff like that so just seeing like you know angel kailin clark those people like with kea jackson like they making away and we grew up with those girls too we played and canceled those girls too so just to see them be able to do that like we didn't think we would be there like when we were younger so just to see like them be inspirations for little girls too it means a lot because we didn't really necessarily have that like on the front line with social media and i feel like with nil and stuff like that people are able to share their stories like a lot of people weren't able to share their stories so i think

that's what's bringing a lot more eyes too. Is there more pressure on the branding side of it because you have all that to think about now? Yeah. Is there more pressure on the branding side? Yeah, like the, now you're thinking about like, okay, I want my merch to be like this.

How do I want to tell my story? What is my story? Do I do the press? Do I not say something? Do I tweet? Like, your eyes are just different for y'all now. You had to go through like nicknames too, Raven, right?

Like those nicknames you didn't like, you didn't like cross. Oh my gosh. I don't even know where that came about. Because you be cooking. We've got to accept the good with the good, I guess. I mean, people run with it, but I mean, I feel like just be yourself. Don't let no one tell you you can't say that or this.

Like, just be yourself. And I think that sales ticket being yourself, honestly. How do you handle social media narratives versus, like, what's really happening in the gym? Especially for you, because I think about when, you know, like, the Tenier brought up when Caitlin waved you off. I'm like, I don't remember you being no piss-poor shooter like that. I wasn't. Like the way they was acting online.

I wasn't. But, you know, social media, like I say, you're going to live by social media, you're going to have to die by it. Die by it. I think social media is bad for our generation. If you ask me, it's literally like people compare themselves to others

or they live this life on social media that they're really not living in real life. And I think that's what social media give you this mindset. You have to be like this person. Or you have to dress like this person. Like, for example, BBL. Well, you see one person with a big booty

and all that stuff. Now, another girl. Like, it's social media. That starts with social media. It's bad. Like, you can't really be yourself. Ain't no BBLs on the women's basketball? I ain't seen no BBL on the coach.

Not yet, not yet. You ain't get no, oh. I got a natural woman. Oh, that'll look so stupid. Yeah. That would have time to recover from that? No, no, no. You know, we work out for hours.

Yeah, I mean, yeah. You know, you would have to talk crazy trash to a girl. She'd come on the court with a BB. I'm like, what the girl? I'm cooking her, brother. It's ISO ball. I mean, if it's her, if it's her, Natural. I'm talking about if she actually went to get the surgery.

I mean, they got skinny be bills. They do? Yeah. Oh. Yeah, they do. Yeah, they do. And they look good, too. I'm not saying I'm getting that, but. It's just for smaller girls.

A lot of people would, like. Don't say no name. I'm just back with you. See what I'm saying? You don't batting her in the season. When you think about the WMBA draft tonight, right, what part excites y'all the most? She'll getting our names called.

That's like, and then, no, getting glammed up, getting cute. That's a, that's a plumber. too. Yeah, I think my favorite part is seeing my teammates, like her, especially her. No. Just living her dream out. I'm really excited for her. I think that's my favorite part, but like she said, being cute. Stepping on these people, you know, we've got to put it on.

Yeah. What, you mean her dream, no, that wasn't your dream? It is my dream. It is my dream, but, you know, she's a big part of my, what, process, too. It's always been in my corner, so I'm excited to see hers, too. That's so sad. What part humbles y'all the most? Humbles. Why are they going to be humble? Yeah.

I didn't say they got to. I just asked the question. Not knowing where you're going to go. Yeah. Good answer. Yeah. Yeah, not knowing where you're going to go. Like, you don't, you just never know.

Yeah. I think maybe that humble is. But you know you're going somewhere. Yeah, it is. That's true. That's interesting, though, because tonight is like literally the first night of the rest of your lives in the way.

Not the rest of your lives, but at least for the foreseeable future. Crazy. I haven't even thought. It hasn't hit us yet. Yeah. It has not hit. I'm not saying nine days ago.

I was in college still? point about that. I can tell I has to hit you because you like I'm my outfit going to be cute. I'm gonna be there. I gotta make sure I look at. I'm not mad at you about that though. I think I hit when we at that table when we had the table. I'm like we're here. You see your family. It's crazy. It's like you see these girls before you like you, like you, we watch the draft every year and you're like dang like it's going to be our time soon. Now the time is here. Like time is flying by like it's crazy. Did it go by fast? Y'all years in college? Yeah. Yeah. I feel like it did.

this might be a stupid question but I'm going to ask it when you're real dumb when she say that because her questions be stupid do y'all get like your college experience is so different right so a lot of it is just basketball practice your teammates but like when I think about college I think about like actually living on campus and like the fun and the like the experience of like living somewhere else but y'all are so different like outside of sports

what do you value about your college experience who friendships like you need different people not even that not even athlete you meet what they call them narps or whatever like normal like normal

like like regular people like outside of like outside of sport yeah we call people GDIs that weren't well I'm not Greek but like I would be a goddamn individual so it's the same thing for y'all

yeah because you had people that were Greek and you had regular students at school so for them they got athletes no I'm not Greek I was a GDI yeah so but for Y'all have athletes and in NARPs. Yeah, NARPs. Okay.

Me, and those people are cool. Normal A regular people. They're cool. Oh, normal as regular people. They don't work out. They had chip-batching the Thursdays in the CAV. I mean, they're cool. They're cool.

They're really cool. I mean, most everybody on the campus is NARPS, except for, like, the football players and y'all. And other sports? There's a lot of sports. Plus, y'all came up. Man, boy, if y'all had came up in the area of Columbia that I came came up in in 2002, 2002, 2004. Oh, the streets was so lit.

Oh, my God. That sounds like a front of night club, so many scripted. Y'all have no idea. Y'all didn't, y'all really have a nightlife like we had. No. It was boring. You see what I'm saying?

The fact that in the back, like, no. They ended up like. Where? Florida State was lit. It's like a party school. But the fact that you even say Columbia was boring, hurts my heart. Because we came up in that era.

You have an HBCU next to y'all. Don't sound like. Benedict. We had fam you. Oh, damn. Man, we have with fam you. Yeah, you was there for five years. You didn't have no Columbia nightlife either.

We have some parties here and there, but they're, yeah. There was a time where Columbia arrived with Atlanta. What? I'm telling you. And people from Atlanta, people from Atlanta from that area will tell you. No, I was going to Columbia when I was in college. You ain't, I ain't talking about you either.

My ex used to go to Benedict. And it was. was driving. We was in college from 2010 and 2014. I used to hate going down there. I said in early 2000s. That's when Atlanta was really popular right now. I'm telling you.

Y'all had a freak comic in Columbia? No. It was about the script club. But y'all didn't have no blue magic. I mean, magic. We had Lack. Magic City. Yeah, all that.

Blue Flame. Yeah, blue flame. That's what I mean, it's a magic city. We had Liquid Gentlemen's Club and Leroyce. That's sad. You all ain't know. I'm telling you, people that was in Columbia in Columbia in the early 2000s they know it's good that y'all didn't grow up in that era though y'all probably wouldn't be

where y'all are right now that's true that's true do y'all feel like y'all games translate to the wmbaa yes there's another level to unlock though yeah it is why does your game translate rave me i mean i'm a winner i think everybody knows that um my my defense tenacity i can do it all like whatever the coach needs me to do i'm gonna do that and i think you know i'm unselfish like it's not not just about me i'm gonna help others i'm gonna make sure they're confident because you can't win a game without by yourself. You got to win it with a team. So that's what's going.

Tonight, what about you? I think I'm just, like, flexible. Like, I can go from system to system. I feel like I can blend in a lot. And I feel like that's going to give me longevity in the league, too. And then also my ability to attack downhill. Also, I can do whatever the coach needs me to do, too. If they need me to go score 20, I'll go score 20.

If they need me to go, you know, play some good defense, I can play good defense. So I feel like just my ability to, you know, show up as a pro in who I am. and also, you know, what I bring on the court. Did you feel like that before South Carolina? I did, but I feel like I was missing something, and I was missing this year. I feel like just, you know, showing my ability to do,

doing more that I can do than just scoring. Like, I feel like everybody knew me as just a score. They didn't see me as a defender. They didn't see me as an intangible player. So I feel like, you know, I got to showcase everything that, you know, I could do outside of just scoring. So what separates a great college player

from somebody who, six around in the WMBA for 10 plus years? I think they habits, like they pro habits, you know, like taking care of their body, the recovery. Like you don't see many people last long in a league if they don't like take care of their body and do the necessary things, like, you know, and just doing whatever a team needs you to do.

Like, if a team needs you to go dive on the floor and get 50-50 balls or rebounds, go do that. If not, then... Yeah, and it's physical. I think for college you got this transfer portal and you don't really get to trust the process or trust the system but with the WNBA,

it's not no transfer portal if you're going to get it there or are you going to get cut? And I think just being a great person too. They were talking to us about how people stay longer in the lead by being a great person outside of basketball like being a person to your teammate.

It starts in a locker room, things like that. So I think those little things like that can have longevity in WB. Those are just good life lessons. My grandma always told me, man, it'll take you with money won't. Yeah, it was. But when I hear you talk about

being excited for the draft to see her because she's been a part of your story and support you. I was just, I said it. It's like, it's so selfless. But like that shows a lot of like about your character, which I think, you know,

will always set you up for success. And it's easier when your friend not a loser. Like, you think about it. If you all got a loser friends who ain't make your, you know. Yeah.

True. Would you text them once? It's like, yeah, God got you. Keep your head up. Yeah. That's really what it is. No, that's true.

That's tough. Is that tough? It's tough. That's very tough. It is tough because especially when you, like, at the peak of your career and then you've got a friend that's, like, not really doing that good. That's young hard. Like, it's tough. Because you feel like you can't really, like, celebrate your wins.

But that's not a good friend if you can't celebrate your wins with your friend. You're supposed to be able to celebrate anything with your friends. So, yeah, it's kind of tough, but just wish them well. They'll put it involved in a coach on the night, though. By the time people see this interview, the draft will already have happened, right? Do you all know? do you have ideas of where y'all might want to go? Like what kind of organization or system

would bring the best out of each one of y'all doing? Wherever the win takes us. We don't know. We try not to get our host to. The old person y'all haven't been around told y'all that one. Whatever the win take, y'all. Whoever meetings y'all were in before this interview, they served you guys well, okay?

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you got to be grateful for whatever you can get you. So honestly, it's like, it's a blessing. But you can also speak, I was about to say you can speak things to the universe, maybe sort of kind of. What would be a perfect scenario? Because you said y'all wanted to play it again. What would be a perfect scenario for it?

I can't really say it. I mean, you gotta be grateful, honestly. You can't really say. This will be out after the draft now. You ain't not even gonna see this until the draft, though. Oh. Yeah. I mean, I don't know.

Don't do it. Do you see yourselves as franchise players, coaches setters, or both? I'll say all three. Yeah. Just come with time. Like, you know, of course you want to be a franchise player, but you got people in front of you.

Like, you got all American. Yeah, you got all like Asia Wilson, it took her a minute to be that franchise. Yeah. So you got to just wait your time, trust the vets in front of you, and try to learn a lot for me. Like, it would be a fun. You know, things will happen in the right order if you just be yourself and trust the process. Yeah. What's the biggest misconception people have about women's college basketball right now?

Ooh. I feel like that, let me just talk about the SEC overall. Just, you know, social media again. I just feel like they try to paint pictures on. us girls outside of like they try to put us like enemy yeah you all like each other yeah but whole time is not that it's just been competitive on the court but outside of the court like some of these girls are friends some of these girls actually like each other and I think you know what these fan bases they're crazy like you know they think like oh she's dad or they just talk about

young players on social media and I don't really you know like that personally I think you know like these are 19 18 year old girls that they're talking about you got 40 year old men 40 women or let's talk about this girl hair or how she looked like why you care so much about that it's supposed to be about basketball at the end of the day and I just feel like that's just not the right thing to do um if anything they should be giving confidence it's a young black girls any any any any color honestly like you shouldn't be trying to lower them or trying to just bring them down you should be trying to uplift them no matter what school they go to so I think like when it comes to that I think everybody needs to kind of tip their head or their mindset of

Trying to bashing people. Just because they got South Carolina or they have, what, LSU or Ole Miss or Tennessee? Like, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, we're young girls trying to chase a dream. Exactly. What you think, can I? I think the same thing. Like, you know, they pen, they give us beef we ain't even got.

Like, what? Y'all don't hate this up. Like, we don't even have that. So, yeah, they just try to stir up drama and create a storyline for women's basketball. And I feel like they don't necessarily do that on the men's side like that. So for them to do that for us, it's. kind of unfair and it's like a jab you know like I feel like it's like dang like y'all really don't respect us as just competitors and see us as like you know young girls trying to chase a

dream like he said so yeah it's just craziness I do feel like with the South Carolina lady gamecox there is a certain there's a certain portion of media that don't put the light on y'all the way that they they should like six final fours in a row three national championships in role and somebody bought this to my attention I when they uh when y'all last time you all won the championship y'all didn't get invited to no late night tv shows or anything like that right no actually a lot of things yeah black yeah girls a lot of things but i think that just speaks about you know coach daily as a person um you know a lot of people want to be her or a lot of people want to be in the footsteps that she in just she don't care what you say about her

she don't care how you view her and i think that's what i like about her like you can say whatever about her. You could say she's short. You could say just that in the third, but she's going to walk in her truth, and she's going to walk in her skin. She's going to walk in her light, and she's going to keep shining. And I think that's what matters the most to young women like us when we're watching her, because she's so inspirational. I'd be like, how do you handle

the things that comes your way? Like, you're powerful, like all these, people don't like you. And I see that. Like, people do not like her. And she's like, you think I give a like a, you think, she's a cussing, but you think I give a, um, it's H-I-T or whatever. Yeah, that's yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, there you go. Yeah. You said black girls tonight. You think that's the reason they don't amplify the way they should? I mean, let's just get down to the nitty gritty. Like, we are, like, a predominantly black team. Like, and I feel like we don't get showcased as much as we should because of politics. Everything is political in society, I feel like.

So we may not get them as much shine as other teams or stuff like that. But, I mean, we, like, like she said, we are a reflection of our coach. Like, at the end of the day, like, we don't. I don't care what nobody say about us because our coach don't care. And I feel like it starts from up top and we kind of try to reflect that. Especially, you know, like they said, we didn't think we was going to make the national championship game. So, I mean, just staying focused on what's in that locker room and what's in front of us and

just building that sisterhood. I feel like that's what brings us close and we can block out all that noise. What was your most meaningful year, Raven, the revenge year? Revenge year? Revenge you? I said that year, but this year too, because I got to play with her. I got to play with a whole new group of people that I probably didn't, in the summer, I probably didn't even think we were going to be good.

I thought we were going to be like, I knew we were going to be good, but I didn't know if we were going to be like the level of good that I've seen throughout my college career. And I think as time went by, like, we got better. Like, we grew a bun. Like, it's so crazy. Like, we grew a bun throughout the season, like, it's like irreplaceable. Like, we were learning more about each other throughout the season.

And it's so crazy how we wanted to play for more than, like, yourself then. play for each other. And you saw that with each other. Like, we talked to each other, like, any type of way. And I think everybody hold each other accountable. That's the biggest thing with this team. And you could be yourself. Like, Coach Daly, I don't have seen her change from my freshman to my fifth year. Like, she used to be the serious coach. Like, I didn't go to her about, I was scared of her. I used to be like, I don't want to ask her. I don't get of her. But now I go to her about,

I'll be asking her, what's her relationship status? Why are you being nosy? I want to know. You're supposed to be playing basketball, not doing a podcast. She knows. I got that clothes. Yeah. I mean, she asked us.

She'd be all up and up business. I'd be in her business too. I'd be wanting to know. Like, Coach, why are you wearing that? I'll be asking crazy questions. Do you guys off? Not when we start losing. No, no.

She was a different person when we lose. Yeah, she brought that other side of her. Ain't no joking with her. But y'all don't lose much. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So when you lose, it's like she don't like that feeling. We don't either.

So it brings another person out of her. And it makes her go harder. And we know not to play. her. How are you going to adjust Raven and you go to the WMBA and you're on a franchise that may not be winning? When you are accustomed to being such a winner, are you going to be able to handle that?

Yeah, good question. Hey, that's a really good question. I mean, I'm going to be upset, but I feel like, hopefully I don't go to a franchise like that in the name of Jesus. But, yeah, if I do go to a franchise like that, I just got to wait. Sometimes you got to take the bad with the good. And maybe they're building. And they're trying to build that franchise or that program up.

And maybe, you know, they picked me to help them build the franchise up. So maybe I just have to wait. But yeah, it's going to suck to lose because I'm not used to losing. So I'm going to try to do whatever it takes to win. But, you know, maybe we've got to get used to that, honestly. So hopefully I don't have to. But when you said Coach Daly be like she'll get mad at you when other people on the team mess up sometimes and you had to change your mind

and think about why she does that and how that's it like accountability. When you just were talking about being on losing team, I'm like, that moment will transcend so well for you if you get to a team that isn't winning, right? Because when things are going wrong, you'll know how to adjust your mindset to change the team's mindset around, which is like, you know, what your role does on the court. So it would be good.

Yeah, right. A couple last questions. Tenaya, if your younger self could see you now, what would surprise are the most? True, me being here. I feel like, you know, it started off as a dream, so now that is reality. I feel like she would just be so proud, so happy.

And, you know, it was rooms that I didn't think I would be in. So, I mean, I know she would just be proud and happy of me. What about you, really? Yeah, she would be, my youngest, I was this little skinny little girl. I would just use to play basketball. What would fat you say? Yo. I don't even know who fat me is.

She's out of the window. But the fat me would definitely be, she'd be proud. She would be proud of her. She'd be proud. I mean, she's like, dang, you got all of the women. fat off but the little me yeah she would be very proud and never would have

thought she would have go through adversity or meet people that's not like her who's bubbly like been through a lot but you know my little self would be like I'm glad you went through those through those things and it's a young black girl like you've been being that young girl to be aspiring other black magic young black girls

yeah black magic yep what's the moral of the story you want your journeys to represent when it's when it when I want to even want to say when it's all said and done because y'all just getting started just getting started literally yeah well let's let's let's let's cap it on the college your college career so far what's that moral of the story could you close that chapter you're starting a new one i want to be remember as this person that you know that impact others that's that was very nice all the time who met fans

um i want to be remember as because you never know who you might meet so i feel like you should always be nice to everyone because that person you meet may meet them in a few people you meet you may meet them in a few and you may need them in the future. So I want to be a member asked this genuine, humble, little sweetheart and who likes to win when it comes to being on the court. So that's what I want to do. A winner too. Yeah, that's what I want to do.

What about you tonight? Just like, I guess like how I present myself and who I am, just mature, a good person, somebody that isn't afraid of change in growth. But yeah, I feel like just who I am as a person and how I present myself, I want to be remembered as somebody that, you know, took the game seriously and, you know, try to be it as best I could. Raven Johnson, Tenaya Latson, good luck tonight.

I don't know, I don't even know what to tell y'all because I want you to end up wherever you all want to end up. Just watch the fit first, bro. Just watch the fit. You're putting a lot on it. You finish up. You put it. Tell them what to follow you.

Oh, follow me on Instagram at CBG Tenaya. and follow me on Instagram at Hollywood Unasquare Raven. All right. It's Raven Johnson. Tonight, it's the Breakfast Club. Hold on. Every day I wake up.

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