The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Rickey Smiley On Grieving The Loss Of His Son, Comedy's Healing, New Book + More
Episode Date: October 15, 2024The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Rickey Smiley To Discuss Grieving The Loss Of His Son, Comedy's Healing, And New Book. Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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Wake that ass up early in the morning.
The Breakfast Club.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God.
We are The Breakfast Club.
Jess is on maternity leave, so Lawn La Rosa is filling in.
And we got a special guest in the building.
We about to mess up so many people's heads
because they're going to be in their car like,
am I listening to the right station?
We got the brother Ricky Smiley here.
Welcome, brother.
Man, thank you for having me, man.
How you feeling? Man, I'm feeling good, man. It's a dream toiley here. Welcome, brother. Man, thank you for having me, man. How you feeling?
Man, I'm feeling good, man.
It's a dream to be here.
Stop it.
Bro, I lay in the bed and I sit here and I just scroll and watch all y'all videos.
I've been a fan for years.
Hold on.
I want to say something before we get started with the conversation.
I saw Ricky a couple weeks ago.
I saw him in New Orleans at the Inspire Nola event.
And I went up to him and I said something that I'm going to say now.
I want to publicly apologize to Ricky Smiley
because several years ago,
I gave Ricky Smiley donkey of the day
because a radio executive asked me to.
And you didn't deserve that, brother.
Thank you.
And so when I saw you, I told you that, you know,
and I wanted to say that again publicly
because I feel like if you do something
to somebody publicly that you don't agree with, you know, and I wanted to say that again publicly because I feel like if you do something to somebody publicly
that you don't agree with, you should publicly apologize for it.
So I want to say that to everybody, all our listeners.
I want them to hear me say that you didn't deserve that,
and I want to apologize to you.
I appreciate that, man.
The first time when you walked up on me, man, your energy, man,
the love and the respect, It takes a, you know, a big person.
And I know that it was all part of the game because we have a mutual,
one of your employees is one of my mentees.
Who?
Big Mac.
Mac.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mac started us as an intern.
Oh, yeah.
He started us as an intern and that's who he is.
Well, I put him on stage.
I'm the first one to put him on stage.
That's dope.
We'll talk about that because I put a lot of them on stage. I'm the first one to put him on stage. That's dope. We'll talk about that
because I put a lot of him on stage.
He gave a lot of comics there to start
or whatever.
I've been in the game 35 years.
But I really appreciate that, man.
And don't feel no kind of way about it.
I didn't take it personally.
But, you know,
it takes a special kind of person
to apologize and stuff like that.
And I thought nothing of it
because if I thought anything bad,
I wouldn't even be here.
All right.
You know what I'm saying?
But I love you.
I appreciate you, man.
I think you're doing a fabulous job.
I met you at the White House.
Yep.
I was excited about that.
And I hear you in Florida all the time.
We see each other on the road
every once in a while.
I see you on the road as well.
Always good running into you.
It's a pleasure meeting you.
Yeah, it's nice to be with you too.
I was going to start that,
but now we even got to go there
because I was going to ask you. One time, everybody was throwing got to go there because I was going to ask that one time.
Everybody was throwing shots
and I was like, I'm just glad that...
It wasn't everybody.
It was me.
He threw a shot back too.
He did.
I don't remember, but he did.
See, we from the South,
we can go outside and just wrestle.
Wrestle.
Not at this big age.
Not at this big age.
He might have called you short.
Y'all wrestle now,
somebody might not get up, okay?
Yeah, I might pull something at my age. Yeah, okay. I done got up there. Ricky might have called you short, bald-all wrestle now, somebody might not get up, okay? Yeah, I might pull something at my head.
I done got up there. Ricky might have called you short,
bald-headed, feet boring, chest-bending.
We all got so many mutual people,
you know what I'm saying? Whether it's Mr. Harvey, whether it's
Lil' Duval, whether it's Mac. So it's
just like, what we doing?
Yeah, we getting older. We don't have
time. That's right. Well, you got a new book out
right now. Yes, sir. Side Show.
Now talk about, what's Side Show about. Well, you got a new book out right now. Yes, sir. Sideshow. Yes, sir. Sideshow. Now talk about what's Sideshow about?
Okay.
You know the song that your parents, everybody's parents,
let the sideshow begin.
That's right.
Hurry, hurry.
It's about a sad clown.
Right?
My job as a professional comedian is to go on stage and make people laugh.
And I lost my son about a year and a half ago.
And it's been hard because the bills don't stop coming.
I'm still a performer.
I still have to go on stage.
And I had to dig deep and get in some real deep therapy to get myself together so I can continue as a performer.
Because if I worked at, you know, Amazon, lifting boxes or delivering packages, that's one thing.
But when your job is to make people laugh, when you're crying on the inside with the trauma that I experienced, that's what the song Sideshow talk about.
See the man with the broken heart.
You can see that he is sad.
It hurts so bad.
See the girl who collect broken hearts as souvenirs.
It's all about a clown in a circus performing,
but dealing with stuff on the inside.
I've watched you grieve out loud online.
And the only reason I don't like that,
it has nothing to do with how you feel.
I know how people react.
And when you're already dealing with something,
when you're already dealing with trauma, and then you give it to people online, then they how people react. And when you're already dealing with something, when you're already dealing with trauma,
and then you give it to people online,
then they come at you. How do you deal with that?
Oh, no, it didn't bother me,
Charlemagne. My job
was I had to help other people
because
the reason I was open with it is a lot
of mothers out there that lost their 18-year-old,
17-year-old, 16-year-old,
15-year-old 15 my son was 32
when we were in new orleans uh your books your book signing was right after mine
and i i had a couple that had lost their two year old right and these are that's some of the things
that i talk about in the book it gave me it it gives you glimmers of hope and the glimmers of
inspiration even during our traumatic times. Right.
So my son was 32 when this couple sitting out here crying at my book sign,
their son was only two. Wow. And I could have lost my son at two,
but God allowed me to have, you know, 30 years, 32 years.
So you get a little gratitude from that.
And it's crazy that you can get gratitude from something like that.
You know, and you start looking at at it's a helpful to the book is a helpful tool
for people that's going through the grief process because there's a lot of
people out there and my book sign has been packed with people that have lost
their kids how do you still believe the Baldwin books to a new one yeah how do
you still believe right you talk about losing your father at the age of six
right and then you lose your son how do you just believe? Right. You talk about losing your father at the age of six. Right. And then you lose your son. How do you just not say, you know what, there is no higher power. How do you still remain focused and still have belief and still have hope and still have all of that with going through the pain that you've gone through? Christian background. I went to Sunday school every Sunday so I just have some some strong beliefs in a close relationship with God because it was
nothing and nobody to lean on. I was in an apartment in Dallas Texas by myself
you know when I found out that my son passed and I had an hour and a half I
had an hour to make it to the airport and I'm packing a bag and on the phone
with my other kids letting them know what
happened and trying to get myself together and preparing myself to lead because my family needed
me I you know it didn't really hit me until a year later right but at that time my son has a
mother and a wonderful stepfather so I had to them. I had to protect my mother, who was really close to my son
because my mother, you know, recovering addict.
My mother had 35 years clean.
Had to protect her because they had a real special relationship
because she could identify with the struggle.
Then I had to protect my other kids.
I had two kids in college, getting ready to graduate college.
My daughter that got shot, she was a senior in college,
getting ready to graduate at Baylor.
And then I had my son graduate in Alabama State,
and then my oldest daughter.
So just trying to get them and being calm and say,
hey, here's what happened.
Brandon didn't make it.
I need you to meet me at the house immediately.
Just real calm. I need you to text me at the house immediately. Just real calm.
I need you to text me.
Let me know that you're on your way.
Text me.
Let me know.
Just all of that.
I had to be calm.
I had to be cool.
I had to get in the car with my uncles who was crying.
I had to turn the radio on at the R&B station.
I had to turn on Frankie Beverly and Maze and go from the airport to the house.
I'm comforting them because it reminded them of my dad's death, right?
And so I'm just a child, man, that sat on the front row
and watched my grandparents go through what they went through.
And through my grandfather, I learned how to handle the situation
because that's how my grandfather handled it as well.
Did you ever, because losing somebody, especially someone so close to your son,
it changes you.
Did you ever at first when you were trying to get to that,
I mean, I guess I get through it.
I don't know if you ever get through it.
Were you afraid that when you got back on stage that first time
that it wouldn't be the same,
like your ability to kind of push through
and make people laugh wouldn't be the same?
No.
You know, Charlamagne, one thing about funny, it don't change.
That's right.
You find something to laugh at, especially in a trauma.
Yeah, when your ass hit that stage, man, them jokes come.
Them jokes.
Like, when you get somebody on the front row laughing,
I cry all the way up.
My first show was in Cleveland at the Horace Casino.
And I cried from the hotel all the way to the venue,
all the way backstage.
Blew my nose.
Did it like that. Made sure my nose was clean and walked on stage and got them jokes and cried after i got off stage and
you know i was coming but i've been in therapy i was getting therapy twice a week so i was prepared
to go on stage again my son died on a sunday that wednesday i was back on the radio they said take
as much time as you need.
Well, either you lay in the bed and think about all of that,
or you get your ass up and go do your morning show,
go do your radio show, because all the mothers in Chicago and in Columbia
and in Charleston and in Atlanta, all over the country,
their kids died too.
Much is given given much is required
you can't cancel the show god put you in this position and put you in a leadership position you have to lead and i still went to the salvation army like i do on a regular basis i fed the
homeless with my son clothes in the car to go to the funeral home that was a dark wednesday i'll never forget it you have to do it
everything all of this stuff and i don't want you to ever forget this all of this stuff amy is a test
it's a test our pastor has been teaching us that for years it's a test god is watching you through
your struggles through your trials and tribulations and looking at you seeing how you're going to handle this are you going to make it about you are you going to use this situation to help other
people but i still i was still smart enough to go ahead and get the help that i needed in the
process because i had to get therapy because this trauma is a bad car accident how do you think you
would have been reacting without the without the therapy oh man I probably
would have been dead I had my son was like you know my son was a comic no I know that shout out
to me my son was a comedian I'll sing you some clips my son man I remember my son headlined his
first gig at the Stardome in Birmingham and I walked backstage he was by himself he had on some uh
uh he had on some uh
some black pants and i was roasting him because he had on a white shirt and some
and some uh suspenders and a black bow tie i was like
well yeah was he, what you got on?
He said, oh, you told me to dress nice. I said, okay, you look nice.
I said, but, I said, yeah, whatever.
And he went on stage and performed.
I stood backstage and I watched him perform.
He had a really good set.
And he was doing headlining shows.
He had just started, you know, closing shows.
Man, he was funny.
He had kind of like a sense of closing shows man he was funny he had a
kind of like a sense of humor and uh he was being mentored by roy wood jr wow you know their clothes
you know we all came from birmingham same radio station all that stuff so roy was giving him some
opportunities and uh uh one time now this is the funniest he was on stage performing so he
had stayed at my house left some clothes on the dryer you know he took the clothes out of the washing machine put it in the
dryer and then he took all the clothes and put the shit on top of the dryer I
was mad as hell you know cuz I like you to cook you know for your stuff up and
put you and I went to the company club you perform and he was on stage I didn't
care cuz I was mad I went into DJ Boop and got on the microphone and said you
get your ass off stage you need to come fold these damn clothes up.
Oh my God.
And we got into a whole argument
and the audience was cracking up, but I was for real.
And he was laughing it off and said, yeah,
when you get on stage, you come out and get these damn clothes off my truck.
Slam the microphone and walked out the door.
That's some funny stuff that I always enjoy talking about.
But yeah.
How has it been like, you know, because when you write these books,
you put your most vulnerable, deepest thoughts into these books,
and you've got to go out here and do this.
You've got to have these conversations.
How's that been for you?
I've gotten used to it.
You know how it is.
Once you do one interview, you do another interview,
you keep doing interviews, you just get accustomed to talking about it,
and then you develop some really good talking points
that's going to help other people.
Because what people have been telling me is the feedback
that I've been getting is, hey, bruh, it's been helping me out.
You know how many people walk up to me and said that they lost a loved one
and they can't talk about it?
And just because they hear you on the radio every morning,
now they're coming out
to your book sign i have people walking up crying almost 90 of the people that come out about a book
have suffered a loss and can't talk about it and do not go to therapy so i've been promoting therapy
because when you roll your ankle you don't pull out a bible. You go to the doctor. Go to the doctor, that's right. Absolutely.
The muscle, the brain is a muscle just like your ankle.
Why is it that we black folks have this stigma that we won't go get help?
That don't mean that you're crazy.
You have to get somebody and talk to somebody that's going to help you process those feelings and emotions because you can go into depression,
start affecting other organs in the body.
Some people don't make it from their loss. emotions because you can go into depression start affecting other organs in the body some people
don't um make it from um from their loss they die you know so a lot of times people you know
we've been taught as kids you keep home home business in the house right you never really
talk about what happens inside your house like you said that winds up killing you absolutely
that depression that anxiety all those facts all those feelings every time you cry in me do you
know that's like popping the cap
off of a pressure cooker?
You're releasing. I cried this morning.
Man, I sat on the side
of my hotel bed. I was having some
anxiety. I called a good
friend of mine. She answered the phone when I heard
her voice.
I just started crying, bro. I just
let it out. I just cried. I just needed to
cry. I felt it building up yesterday, and I just started crying, and. I just let it out. I just cried. I just needed to just cry. I felt it building up yesterday, and I just started crying.
And the changing of the seasons, you know, that affects you.
I think they call it seasonal.
Seasonal depression.
Seasonal depression.
I've been dealing with anxiety and depression for my whole life,
and I started going to therapy in 2016.
And when I wrote a book about it in 2018, my dad read the book,
and I had a cousin who completed suicide that week
and my dad told me,
it was the week of Thanksgiving 2018,
I'm home in South Carolina,
and he told me that between reading my book
and my cousin completing suicide,
he told me for the first time ever
that he was going to therapy two and three times a week,
that he tried to kill himself 30 plus years ago
and that in South Carolina,
they put him on 10 to 12 different medications for his for his mental health and I remember I asked my mom
I said mom, you know dad was going through all this and she said I thought he was playing crazy to get a check
But that's what they're doing to stop they give you the crazy check
But imagine if he would have had that conversation with me when I was young
He just told me that the car was the way we're discussing it right now
Right imagine if we heard, you know older men in our life having that conversation early We'd have known that the stuff we're discussing it right now, imagine if we heard older men in our life having that conversation early.
We'd have known that the stuff we was going through was normal.
Yeah.
My granddad never talked about it.
My dad died.
My dad was 26.
My granddaddy didn't talk about it until he was like 85
because he would be at my house all the time.
And I would say, granddaddy, what happened?
My dad died here in New York.
My dad died of a drug overdose here in new
york and uh my granddaddy was like uh he just started telling me it's like i was there when
they um bought your dad's body in i stood there like a man i was standing in the morgue when they
rolled my son body in there like like i took that shit like a g i didn't shed a tear i just made
sure everything was done properly.
Bought the barber in, told the barber how I want my son's mustache and beard done.
And I stood right there and I took it.
But all that stuff.
You cried in the car, though.
It hadn't really hit me yet.
It's coming out in small pieces like this morning.
Maybe this morning was some of it and um i i didn't cry at the funeral because um my my granddaughter was looking at me the whole time was like peekaboo
because she didn't know what was going on you know the whole while you know she looking at me
we playing because you know and i just had that memory of my grandparents crying at Ricky have you dealt with
it then because it doesn't seem like you fully dealing with it yeah it's a process bro you know
do you ever think about just giving away just stopping you know like I don't want to do this
anymore was that ever a mind no man we we got to save people, man. Listen, some have to die so others can live.
You understand?
And, you know, no cross, no crown, bro.
We have to go through what we have to go through,
and we have to talk about it.
And I'm just trying to break the generational curse of, number one,
not talking about it, not going and getting therapy and getting help,
and to talk about you know uh
drug addiction you know um i had a son and a nephew age 32 and a niece i had a niece a son
a nephew all died at age 32 within two years of each other can you talk a little bit about that
like just in real time when they were here dealing with the addiction and trying to help them through
it and like also wanting them to get better but addiction understanding it like it kind of takes over where
it's not it's not even just them anymore like it's kind of it's a big beast yeah the only thing
I regret I didn't have a good understanding of the illness because I had a niece and a nephew
that was cool and calm and respectful but it didn't affect my son that way. You know,
my son would go off about stuff,
you know,
and,
um,
it,
it damaged our relationship or whatever.
Cause I didn't understand like,
Hey,
I'm your dad.
You can't say that to me.
You know,
I'm driving around looking for you to fight you in the middle of the street.
You know,
I raised you.
I cook food for you.
You know what I'm saying?
I wash your clothes.
You slept in the bed with me when it was thunder and lightning.
Don't say that to me. You know? so I just didn't have a clear understanding of that
but I did everything I could to to save to save his life did you ever blame yourself at all oh no
that's one thing I never uh felt I never felt guilt now you know I felt a lot of stuff but
guilt was not one of them I did everything I could as a father to save his life.
Rehab the 70 grand
off the bat. Boom.
We did that
twice. My mom was
trying to help him.
I just couldn't
get him
to get him well.
Would you do anything different as a dad
during any of those times?
That's a good question. get him well. Would you do anything different as a dad during any of those times? And the reason I'm asking, you know,
I have six, so I like to...
That's a good question.
I wasn't tough on him. He was the one that I coddled.
I was tough on my other
kids. Like, the other
kids, I was just really, really, really,
really tough on them, and he was the one that
I just kind of coddled and did
everything for and took everybody, because that's my first born or whatever I just
wish that I was tougher I know that sounds strange because it sounds like I
should say I should have been easier on him I was easy on him I should have been
tougher on him like I was the other kids what do we call tougher though cuz I you
know we come from the air I was getting beat with extension cords
and my daddy made me go take a bath.
I gotta go, I don't beat my kids.
I don't even touch my kids at all.
Right.
So what do you call a tough one?
Uh, I just wouldn't, um, give him, you know,
I, I, I don't think I popped Brandon.
I hit him, uh, I popped him a couple of times
when he was about 14, made him go stand in the corner and go
do that little thing right there
I'm gonna make sure those legs and those calves are straight
I didn't by the time I started getting tough on him it was time for him to go off to college, you know
But the other kids like Malik went to military school then he went to img academy
i would have so he had a military mindset i think this one but i tried to do that for brandon
because i sent him to the national guard you know sam so my son's service he had a flag draped over
his castle because he served our country but uh i just think i caught on him a little too much
and he just loved on him and he was the one I loved on, hugged on, you know,
and just up under me all the time.
Yeah, it's hard when you're a parent nowadays.
Like I said, the era we grew up in.
I'd be talking to my 9-year-old, like she a basketball player,
like, boy, you wouldn't have survived in the 90s.
You couldn't have played in the 90s.
But what my grandma and my mama and daddy was doing to me?
Right.
Come on, man.
But the key is, it's good that you talked to her with that coach voice
because we have to give kids more of what we had
as opposed to what we didn't have.
That's right.
That's right.
You know what I'm saying?
You like who you are.
You like how you turned out, right?
Give that same thing to your kids.
The evolved version of you, I'm sure.
Right.
And through therapy,
I've learned to love every version of me.
I think that's what you got to do in life.
You know, like every version of you serve the purpose.
Absolutely.
In chapter 12 of your book, it's Let the Tears Fall.
You said that it took you a year for all of this to really like hit you.
Yeah.
What was that day like when you were like, I'm feeling it?
Like that first time where it was like.
That one year anniversary, a few days before that one year anniversary, man,
it hit me like he had just died.
And I was sitting.
I had just got off the air.
I was down in South Florida because I didn't want to be in the house
for that one-year anniversary.
I just wanted to go get away.
And, man, it hit me, man.
And I did some crying.
I think it was a bad mistake for me to be there by myself,
but I just kind of sat on the couch and just cried pretty much for a couple of days,
like really cried because the only difference was I didn't have a casket
and some flowers and some condolences, right?
I had all of that to keep me distracted when it actually happened.
I had to protect everybody.
But that one year came in and it was like, it was terrible.
What about the chapter
when addiction chases the bloodline?
Was that difficult to write?
Cause you know, you gotta go
through your whole generational lineage with that.
Was that a difficult chapter to write?
No, it was just being open and honest.
My dad struggled, my mom struggled.
I had wonderful grandparents.
My granddad talked to me every day.
Church, Sunday school.
You know, hey, here's a trumpet.
Play that.
Here's some piano lessons.
Let's go do that.
I did trumpet, little league football.
Did it all.
My grandparents kept me busy with the discipline and instruction.
Talked to me every day.
So I didn't have those issues.
And then he always talked about how my dad died.
So don't do this.
So I just stuck with it.
And to this day, I don't drink or smoke.
I always wonder how grief impacts people who lost their parents at a very,
very, very young age.
Does it hit you later in life?
Do you see somebody out with their parents and it hits you?
Like, what is it?
It did when I was a kid, but what hurt me about my dad's death
was watching my grandparents cry like that on the front row.
I'm in therapy for that.
That comes up in therapy.
That wipes me out.
That wipes me out more than my son's death.
Why?
I'm a grandmama's baby.
You understand.
You're from the South.
Like, watching my grandparents cry like that on their front row,
man, I can't get over it.
Even when my grandparents died,
the only thing I could think about,
their casket was in the same spot my dad's casket was in.
The only thing I could think about was them crying on that front row,
April the 11th, 1974.
I will never forget it, man.
It just tears my soul out of my body.
I can deal with my son's death,
but that's what I struggle with more than anything.
Wow.
And that's why I didn't cry at my son's funeral
because my granddaughter was watching me.
Oh, you didn't want to traumatize her like that?
Traumatize her like that, wow.
Dang, dang, boy.
Yeah.
Life is a motherfucker.
I'm about to cry.
I'm just sitting up here talking about this. We about to all start motherfucker. I'm about to cry now just sitting up here talking about this.
We about to all start crying.
I just want to hug you.
That's what I don't understand about,
that's why I noticed,
like just putting this out there
to the world
and having to relive
all these stories
and retell these stories.
Is it therapeutic
or does it feel like
you opening up a whole new world?
Man, this is therapy
because if I go and get in that car
and start crying,
that is helpful.
It is helpful to cry.
It was helpful for me to cry this morning.
You understand?
I'm good.
But I also think what you're doing is helping people that don't know how to deal with it
and can't talk about it because now they have a friend in you in this book and they're saying,
well, let me see how Ricky dealt with it.
Let me see what the troubles he's going through.
It is normal.
I can feel this way.
Because a lot of times people feel like they're on their own.
Yeah.
And they don't have those feelings.
So that's one amazing thing about this book.
Well, let's talk about something else for a second.
You put on a lot of comedians, Ricky.
And I think that coming from the South, right, people don't –
I don't think people realize how big you are sometimes.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't think they realize how much money you got, number one.
But also how rich you are and just how big you are.
And I think it's almost a stigma with comedians from the South. They don't get the respect that they got, number one. But also how rich you are and just how big you are. And I think it's almost a stigma
with comedians from the South.
Like they don't get the respect that they deserve, I think.
Yeah, I just do it for the love of the art, Charlemagne.
And I remember cussing D-Ray Davis out,
snatching a drink out of his hand
because he was too young to be drinking.
Hey, give me that.
You know, I had a little comedy club back in Birmingham called the Comberstone.
So I would have like D-Ray, Corey Holcomb.
Corey Holcomb was like, hey, man, I ain't never been outside of Chicago.
I was like, okay, cool.
Let's go on the road.
You know, I would take those guys on the road, Corey Holcomb, D-Ray Davis.
A lot of them, man, that Tyler, some of them have passed away.
You know, I would just take them on the road and help them
because that's what Steve did for me.
You know, nobody have to, don't nobody have to fool you.
You know what I'm saying?
Some people can just ignore you.
Steve was one of those guys, man, that was helping in training coming down.
I started November the 13th, 1989.
Wow. That's the firstth, 1989. Wow.
That's the first time I went on stage.
I met Steve before he did Showtime at the Apollo.
And then, I'll tell you a story.
I wrote about it in my first book.
And just to talk about the discipline and the structure of comedy,
I was dressed like Flavor Flav because I thought that was a thing.
I'm doing a show with Steve.
And Steve was like, listen,
people pay money to see us perform.
Your outfit is nice.
He said, but tomorrow,
I want you to come dress better.
I want you to dress...
He said, I want you to dress nice.
Bruce Ayers, the owner,
was standing in the door watching.
I was embarrassed.
I felt bad.
I felt like my career was over. My feelings door watching. I was embarrassed. I felt bad. I felt like my whole career was over.
You know, my feelings were hurt.
I was like, oh, shit.
You know, I don't want to blow an opportunity with Steve Harvey.
Man, he said, you can go ahead and introduce me.
He said, but tomorrow, let's get it together.
I said, yes, sir.
You know, because you can't say nothing nowadays.
You can't correct nowadays because everybody senses it.
I said, y'all, give it up and show your love right now.
But Steve Harvey, I'll never forget it queen latifah come on for the love of money off that new jack
city soundtrack and he came up i'm talking about it was electrifying i wanted to stay there and watch
man i ran out that damn comedy club door i jumped in my 1979 toyota corolla four-speed i peeled out
of that coming to club driver i drove all the way across town ran in my apartment who put on a suit I had more from jeans
West I used to work at jeans Western you know put my suit on boom tie you know
running driving back I made it back to the kind of club just in time when I
walked back in days like arch I've been wonderful God bless y'all my name's
Steve Harvey peace when I walk back up there and had that suit on,
no nigga, not tomorrow, tonight.
That's what's up.
Right now.
What Steve said to you when he saw you?
So he dabbed me up and he, you know how he do.
Yeah, he push you, that's what I'm talking about.
You know how he do, he push you.
He look me up and down and he said,
he said, I'm gonna talk to you after the show.
I said, yes sir.
Steve's anointed, man.
Oh, my God.
I don't care what nobody says.
You know, after the show, he said, follow this car right here.
I followed him back to the hotel room.
I sat on it.
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I edged the bed
and took a little notepad and a pencil
and he lectured me for about two hours.
And me and another comedian sat on
the edge of the bed and wrote notes.
How to do this. Why not
do this? You did this joke wrong.
Why are you cussing on stage? Why are you dressed
like this?
AT&T is in the audience.
You need to do this. I took all that stuff. I took it
serious because I wanted to be great. I wanted to be better at what I did. And I ended up
opening up for the Kings of Comedy. I did some shows where I did a few dates with the
Kings of Comedy. You had to ride with Steve. You don't get your own limousine. You have
to ride with him. So you have to be disciplined. Get in the limousine, keep your mouth closed,
slide all the way up, put your back to the driver,
speak when spoken to.
Had to share a dressing room with Steve. We frat
brothers, but I'm not ever comfortable enough
just because you're a Q, and I'm a Q.
I'm finna come in here like I'm entitled.
Be quiet and speak when spoken to.
That's the discipline I got from my grandparents.
Who was the other comedian on the bed with you?
Probably Sir Walt. Yeah, a comedian you? I was probably Sir Walt.
Yeah, a comedian that lives in Birmingham, Sir Walt.
And he was mentoring a lot of us.
But he was really into teaching.
Come over here.
I'm sitting down.
I mean, we sitting there.
He's standing up, walking back and forth.
And he's talking to us.
And I remember a couple of times I was about to nod off because I was so sleepy
because I go to bed early.
But that was something that was life changing. What got you-
Steve still like that.
I changed the title of my first book, because of Steve.
What you mean?
I was going to name my book, I Don't Give a Fuck
and Neither Should You, a self-help guide
on how not to give a fuck.
And we was driving around in a ranch in Georgia
and I told him that title and he looked at me and he said,
I gave you the look. No, no no, player, that ain't it.
He said, that's the problem with y'all.
Y'all don't give a fuck.
We need to, y'all need to give a fuck.
He said, all people need to give a fuck.
And he do the same thing, lectured me for about an hour
and I'm like, all right, I got it.
Yeah, big brother mentor.
I was supposed to be on his morning show
and we had a big argument sitting in this truck
and then Rashawn got on the phone and said,
no, you need to do your own thing.
We're going to use nephew Tommy.
He said, you go over here.
If it don't work out, you can come be on the show with us.
Wow.
So hold on.
You were supposed to be a co-host on Steve Harvey's show.
So Steve was going to give me, when Steve left Radio 1, they said, who do you think?
He said, Ricky Smiley.
So I went down there to do the morning show with steve for two weeks so he could gradually hey turn the show over to me hey i'm gonna be gone in two weeks
but ricky smiley gonna be taking over the chemistry was so good and we were so funny i was just
throwing him all kind of alley oops making him recycle jokes and and we were just so funny on
the air together we look at each other like hey man, man, we need to, we need to, you know.
And me and Steve had, we was like, okay, we're going to stick together.
I'm going to go to New York with you.
And we got in the car.
Rashawn, our other frat brother who was Steve's manager at the time.
You know Rashawn.
Rashawn said, hell no.
He said, no, you know, I just have this idea that you should go over here.
We're going to bring in Nephew Tommy.
And if it don't work out, you always come back but let's give this a
try let's see how you do was that tough to hear that cuz you cuz think about it
like you go to New York with Steve Harvey it's like you said what do you
think was it hard to accept that no you shouldn't know it went because once
Steve's look gave me that look when he did the phone he just kind of got you
know that look that's right you know when he gave me that look when he did the phone, he just kind of, you know that look.
That's right.
You know that look.
When he gave you that big brother look, like, okay, we're going to go ahead.
You're not going to argue with him.
Right.
Who do you do that for?
Because you talk a lot about people that you mentor and that you help,
but who's somebody that you do that for that we might not know about
that might have started in your clubs or just unknown
and now is taking taking over comedy wise? Oh man
Lil Duval
was somebody that I
have a real good relationship with that I was
doing some you know mentorship
because remember I was the host of Company View in
2000. So you was a lot of people mentored just by
being on that show? Right that's what
85 South
they told me I'm tripping
like Carlos Miller was like,
bro, I met you when I was 14 years old.
You was in a hotel.
I got excited.
I'm hearing these stories and stuff, man,
not realizing the impact on comedy.
Because I'm on BET Monday through Saturday.
Like when Comic View really blew up, it was in Atlanta.
And then I hosted again, Charlamagne, in 2004.
And then the year after 2000 2001
i had my own little tv show the way we do it that's the first time you know and i was doing all these
characters and all these voices and and all this kind of stuff and so when comics needed help and
needed mentorship i would always you know hey dress nice hey stop cursing does that curse word
make that joke funny are you cursing just to be nice. Hey, stop cursing. Does that curse word make that joke funny?
Are you cursing just to be cursing?
That's a real thing.
I just had that conversation with a comic.
I said, hey, man, you curse too much.
The cursing is not making the joke funnier.
But if the curse word is a part of the punchline, then use it.
I said because it's like I give the onion example.
Like you eat an onion, it's nasty,
but if you take it and chop it up and saute it
and put some flour on it, you're still eating the onion,
but you can't taste it.
It's just an analogy that I use with comics,
and I make them redo the joke.
And they're like, damn, you did the same joke
and got the same laugh, got a bigger laugh,
because people are not offended.
You know what I'm saying?
So, you know, it's no training in stand-up anymore.
You know, back then in the 80s,
late 80s, 90s,
comics would pull you to the side,
Mark Curry and them,
they would pull you.
George Wallace
got on my ass so bad one night.
Why?
You was bombing or what?
No, man.
I did some jokes behind him
after he closed,
after he headlined the show.
I didn't know any better.
He said, you don't do them damn jokes after me.
Said, God damn it, I'll make one phone call,
your career over.
Damn, motherfucker.
I said, I'm sorry.
He said, yeah, you say goodnight, read the announcement,
and bring your ass back tomorrow.
I said, yes, sir.
Damn.
And I came on back, he was nice to me the next night,
and he won't admit it to this day.
I said, Joey, you remember?
He said, I didn't do that shit.
Shut up.
But it was good.
I needed that.
Shit, if I got a booger in my nose, tell me.
Don't let me be out here bad.
Put me to the side and help me.
But you can't even do it.
You feel like you do that nowadays and somebody will be like, oh, man, he threatened me.
He hurt my feelings.
He hurt my feelings.
He hate me. He insulted me, offended me. It's like, oh, man, he threatened me. He hurt my feelings. He hurt my feelings. He hate me.
He insulted me, offended me.
It's like, what?
Man, I tell comics, man, because that's the only way.
Ask Corey Hokeman.
Ask D. Ray Davis.
I used to get at them all the time about little stuff, man.
I'm like, hey, man, I think D. Ray was 19 or 20 when I bought him to Birmingham.
I said, you can't drink nothing.
You can't have that.
Give me that.
Fussing at him about little stuff, man.
And now he's great.
And we laugh about it all the time.
He's just going to always be my little brother or whatever.
They all come to the house.
If you ever come to Birmingham, you know you're welcome.
I cook my ass off or whatever.
That 100,000 square foot house?
No, 100 acres of land.
I wish.
You're right.
Y'all always welcome.
Now, there was a rumor that in your contract, it said that you had to wear a dress. Oh, man. I don't pay that stuff. I didn't're right. Y'all always welcome. Now, there was a rumor that in your contract,
it said that you had to wear a dress.
Oh, man, I don't pay that stuff.
God damn, man.
You should have put, you should have bitten to the onion.
You ain't put no flour on you.
You ain't sauteed or nothing.
God damn.
So, I mean, I started doing comedy in 89, man.
You think there's a contract somewhere.
I'm just messing with you.
I know.
That didn't bother me.
What bothered me was people believed it.
Oh, yeah, they did.
Because it's always been that thing about the wear the dress,
the not wear the dress.
It's comedy.
Yeah.
Listen, it's comedy.
I grew up watching Flip Wilson.
Yeah.
Flip Wilson is the greatest of all time.
And right when you're laughing at Philip Wilson,
he turned around to do Geraldine.
I would sit there and watch that with my grandmother.
My characters came, man, I was doing prank phone calls
on the radio, I was doing Bernie Jenkins.
And whoever would have thought a character that you do
on the radio, calling funeral homes and all this stuff,
turn into a character and somebody asks you to play the character, calling funeral homes and all this stuff, turn into a character
and somebody asks you to play the character in a movie
or whatever, you know, it's funny that all that stuff
is taboo now.
They do that in Philly, Mother Knows.
They do it on Power 99.
You ever heard it?
No.
And they do the calls.
I just thought about that when you said it.
I don't know if they got it from you,
but Mother Knows, they prank call people all the time.
That's a thing in radio.
Everybody do prank calls.
Man, man.
Mother Knows.
I started out listening to the Jerky Boys.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
And then our-
Crank Yankers.
Remember Crank Yankers?
Yeah, Crank Yankers.
Roy Mercer.
But the characters develop.
I do a redneck character.
I do Bubert.
I do Bernie Jenkins.
I do Joe Willie.
I have a gospel quartet.
Joe Willie and the Deuteromanaires.
You know, a little gospel group.
Deuteromanaires is crazy.
I do Lil Darryl.
Lil Darryl, yeah.
Precious.
I do a lot of characters.
I'm talented.
I play the trumpet.
I play the French horn.
I play the bass guitar.
I play the tuba.
I'm an organist.
I play the B3 Hammond at church on Sundays.
You know what I'm saying?
I study music.
I'm just multi-talented.
And you can't
make everybody like you
I have never did anything
had any beat with any
I had one beat with a comic
and it was a quiet beat for 20 years
and that was Arnaz J
me and Arnaz J could not
freaking stand each other
because a show happened
and
you know comics get there early a show happened and you know,
a company's get there early and go on first.
You know, RDSL got there and didn't do the order
or either something happened, but we had beef.
Nobody knew about it.
Right.
Right, let me show you how God worked.
Nobody knew about it.
COVID came.
I'm sitting on Delta.
I'm in Fort Lauderdale Airport,
getting ready to fly to Atlanta where I can drive home, you know.
And I see a dude getting on a plane with a mask on.
He got fishing rods.
Well, who fish?
RNSJ, Lavelle Crawford, and what's my man, Shadiq Houston.
Those are the three comics that really fish.
They fish, fish.
They go fishing.
I said, that's RNSJ.
I haven't spoke to RNSJ in 20 years.
So I got up
and he was sitting right next to me.
He sat right next to me. I didn't say
nothing. That's God. God was testing you.
I said, I know that's RNSJ.
I haven't talked to him in 20
years. It wasn't no
ugly beef like, I'm going to kill you. Just like,
forget you, forget you, or whatever.
You know I'm a Christian person. I'm gonna kill you just like get you forget you or whatever and uh uh I'm you know I'm a Christian person I'm all about resolving and loving on people because that's my heart
and uh I grabbed his arm and he did it like that and I looked I grabbed and he's like like what
and I pulled my mask down man he, he started laughing. He started laughing.
So Charlemagne, give me your hand, the other hand.
The whole flight, me and R&J, like this.
When he started telling me that the 20 years,
all the people that passed away, everything that happened to him,
we cried the whole flight From Fort Lauderdale
to Atlanta.
I said, man, I apologize. He said, no.
He said, my wife been trying to get me
to call you for years. Been on me
about that. I said, no, you don't have to.
It was just love.
Because I had always said, if I
see Arne's again, I'm just going to tackle him.
I saw Cat one time
and he had said some
stuff. That's before the internet came out.
He had said some stuff years ago.
He was roasting all the comedians
that wore a dress, that
played a character.
We was talking about it on the Fox
one day. I was driving
down 14th Street in Atlanta. I saw Cat walking across the street. I had my granddad in the car. I was in my it on the Fox one day. And I was driving down 14th Street in Atlanta. I saw a cat
walking across the street. And I had my granddad in the
car. It was a Ford F-150.
And, you know, I'm one
of the type of dudes I don't be carrying. I'm like,
hey, cat, what's up? He was walking
to Starbucks. I'll never forget it. He said, come on,
have a cup of coffee with me.
A cup of coffee with me. So I went over there
and before he went to Starbucks,
he came around I said hey man
cat we just said this is my granddad um or whatever my granddad saw you on tv before my
granddad said yeah and cat stood in the door had a conversation with my grandfather or whatever and
that was like one of the last times I saw him and there was no issue because it's all love or
whatever because you know um I don't know why I never did anything to him.
If I did, you know, I'm always open, man enough to apologize.
He felt like he was clearing the record on Shea Shea.
Because I think he, or was it that he was supposed to play a role?
You said you were supposed to be Money Mike or something like that?
Well, I did.
When I went out there, I auditioned for that part.
And that's what I really auditioned for.
I didn't audition for the Santa Claus.
If I'm not mistaken, the Santa Claus role was supposed to be for,
what's his name?
He played in the first Friday, the comedian that passed away.
Oh, man.
That was on drugs and stealing and breaking in people's house.
Oh, AJ Johnson.
AJ Johnson.
I think AJ Johnson was supposed to play.
And this is what I heard or whatever.
And they put me in that role because at that time I was on BET and stuff like that.
But I did audition for it.
That's what I went out there and read for.
My manager at the time came on the air, cleared that up.
David E. Talbert came on Instagram and cleared up the fact that there's no country. He had hired me to play my role in the movie First Sunday before he hired Kay.
He cleared that part up.
But Cube clarified it, too.
Absolutely.
Cube said that you did audition for Money Mike, but when they saw how you moved, they thought you'd be better for Santa Claus.
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I don't have no beef.
I love everybody. If there is an opportunity, yeah. Yeah, and I don't have no beef. I love everybody.
If there is an opportunity to resolve,
that's why the rap beef and stuff with rappers getting killed,
I don't want comedy to ever come to that.
You know, that's not what I do.
That's not how I was raised.
You know, we from the South.
That's right.
And we just don't do that.
I want to talk about some of the revolutionary stuff
I feel like you've done in radio.
I feel like Dish Nation.
You know what I'm saying?
We had never seen that before.
And I mean, as a radio head, to see radio personalities on TV in that era,
that felt like watching Howard when Howard did it on E.
So that was a revolutionary thing.
And also making the move to Urban A.C.
Yeah.
Like knowing when it was, I don't know if you knew
it was time or,
like,
how'd that happen?
It just happened perfectly.
We,
you know,
we was on the hip hop stations
and it was great,
but we was getting older.
You know,
I'm in,
I'm almost 50.
Brett,
you know,
we all in our 40s or whatever.
We ain't got no business
playing certain stuff
because we just going,
you going naturally age.
You just can't,
you just can't,
can't be on the radio.
We don't even know who some of the,
we didn't know who some of the rappers are that we playing.
Like, who is this?
Now, Brat, Brat the first female rapper to sell over a million.
She like, who?
You know, you got the back seller song.
Ah, this who?
We looking over the top of our glasses.
Like, what about?
But y'all used to make it funny, I used to watch y'all
it would be funny
but we just naturally got old and then when Tom
Joyner retired
they just slid us over
and now we playing
R&B songs
and now just relaxing the more
we chill
whose idea was it to throw Portia or to get Portia on the show
on Dish Nation
that was so to throw Portia or to get Portia on the show? On Dish Nation? Yeah.
That was so good. Well, Portia,
she would fill in
for Brat. Okay. Portia came,
did a great job, and she would
fill in for Brat, and then they'd say, hey, you want to do
Dish Nation? So anybody came in and filled
in, the producer,
and said, hey, we can get you some makeup right quick.
Can you do Dish Nation? Here's the script.
And it's nothing. It's just reading the teleprompter and talk about what we have already
talked about on the radio.
Then we were doing Dish Nation while we was on the air.
So during commercial breaks, we would shoot a scene from Dish Nation.
Wow.
Oh, I don't know why I thought that was the show.
Yeah, I thought it was the show.
Yeah, I thought it was a Clipsy Y'all show.
No, man, we was doing it.
When we first started, we was in that damn same room for six hours.
We was working our ass off. And when did you
know you wanted to do radio? Because radio
is not a job for everybody, right? People say
they love radio. Right. And then when they got to get
there an hour before and two hours
after and they can't move, and especially
with comedians because you guys are on the road.
Right. You might not be able to go on the road some days.
So when did you know that, I'm going to stay with this?
Man, I used to listen to these two white dudes named Mark and Brian.
You remember Mark and Brian, Charlemagne?
They big in L.A.
Mark and Brian.
Mark and Brian, they had this big-ass morning show.
But they came from Birmingham.
These are the first dudes I used to hear doing characters,
and they did some prank phone calls, too.
So I used to listen to Mark and Brian in high school.
They went to L.A. and became famous, but they came from Birmingham. And I was like, y'all listening to white dudes on
Kix 106, you know, cause that's how I got into soft rock. That's why I'm sitting up here listening
to Fleetwood Mac and the Eagles and Steely Dan. You know, I'd be on some chill stuff. You have
to listen to that stuff, you know, but I was crazy about radio and i i wanted to do it and i'm gonna tell y'all something
i drove when they put up the new stage hip-hop station in birmingham 95.7 jam you know deja
yeah deja came from my radio station wow deja came from my radio station yeah she used to be up here
she's on uh wbls now right no you're talking about another day about another day she's on
he think about deja vu deja vu that's awesome yeah she's on with Kelly, that TV show, whatever.
Kelly and – it used to be Ryan and Kelly.
Right.
She's on that.
And then Roy Wood Jr. came from – we all come from WBHJ, 95.7 Jam.
I drove 60 miles every morning just for the opportunity to be on the radio,
and I got paid nothing.
I was hungry, and I wanted it.
Steve used to tell me, hey, get on the radio.
That keep your name out there.
It keep your brand out there.
So now, Charlamagne, I do my comedy shows during the week.
I don't do comedy clubs on weekends.
So I do a show.
I just go do a 7 o'clock show at an improv,
and I do the improv Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. That's my four shows, and get it in like that. I'm in bed at 9 o'clock show at an improv, and I do the improv Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
That's my four shows, and get it in like that.
I'm in bed at 9 o'clock.
Show started at 7.
That's right.
I'm back at the hotel asleep, and I have my weekends off.
You want the show started at 7?
No, no, no.
You said the show started at 7.
No, the comedy show.
I've done it now.
You want the show started at 5.
When you said, I don't know why I thought of Egypt,
but Deja Vu, she used to be Earthquake co-host on BLS.
Yeah.
At one point.
With the short haircut.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She DJ on Kelly and whatever.
I don't know who's on there now.
Kelly and Ryan, it should be.
Ryan and Kelly.
I think Ryan left to do Wheel of Fortune.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, man.
That was a great station.
We won.
Took down a number one station.
And just doing good radio.
Morning show boot camp, learning about breaks and timing and all that stuff.
I take radio serious, man.
Show prep, air checks, you know, listening to yourself, playing it back.
Like, I take it serious.
And if you're not serious about it.
That's a lost art.
Yeah.
That is a lost art.
Doing radio the proper way.
Absolutely.
Air checks,
knowing when to go into breaks,
teasing,
looking at clocks.
That is a lost art.
Yeah,
you better hit that 53.
You better be out there.
You know about that 53.
What do you love more,
stand up or radio?
Oh,
God.
Damn,
that's a good question.
Radio,
don't give you butterflies.
Radio is just sitting here
like right now. I'm comfortable. It's cool or whatever. Radio don't give you butterflies. Radio is just sitting here like right now.
I'm comfortable.
It's cool or whatever.
Stand-up gives you a little bit of anxiety because you got to perform.
You got to go out there.
People pay money to see you perform.
But my stand-up has been great.
I'm probably funnier than I've ever been.
I got a special coming out.
We in negotiation with Kevin Hart right now to release a comedy special.
I love that for you. Oh, yeah. I haven to release a comedy special. I love that for you.
Oh, yeah.
I haven't done a comedy special in like 12 years.
Wow.
But it's funny as hell.
It's probably my, Dave Talbert, he directed it.
Him and his wife Lynn, they directed it.
It looked good.
It's going to be funny.
It's going to be all over the place.
Recently shot stuff?
Yeah, just recently shot it.
Okay.
Yeah.
I paid for it myself and i just went
on stage and killed their ass so i'm i'm really excited about that and what made you uh i mean
kevin hart's kevin hart but a lot of people go to netflix too like how did you decide where you were
gonna who was gonna house it well we're gonna we're gonna see we in negotiation now because
i just did an interview with kevin hart and uh he asked me about it i was like i just shot one
i said you wanna you wanna uh? Okay, so you started shopping.
Started that conversation.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's a good friend of mine.
I absolutely love him.
Great dude.
Great dude.
Kevin, man.
Jamie Foxx.
All of them have been good to me my whole career. I didn't know Eddie Murphy was a fan.
I met Eddie Murphy at his house or whatever.
Went over there one day.
I had a meeting with Tracy Edmonds. I think were dating at the time and she said Ed play your prank
phone calls around I was like you lying are you serious and I ended up going over there and
there's some comments over there and we had barbecue chicken collard greens
cornbread macaroni and cheese it was like we had some real soul food and that
was my first time meeting Eddie Murphy, man.
That was a pleasure.
So that, when you get to do stuff like that,
and I'm on tour with Martin Lawrence right now.
So that's my big brother.
The funny thing is you talk like you not one of them.
Yeah.
Like you in that conversation?
I'm just humble, man.
I'm still like, I kind of still feel like I'm kind of like
just still young
and in the game because I feel young and in the game.
And I know I'm a little older and stuff and trying to coach younger comics.
And I just kind of sit back and not try to do too much,
but I just try to make sure when I do do something that is special
and that is awesome and that is funny.
And my karaoke nights be sold out.
My karaoke, I sell, my karaoke nights sell out faster
than my comedy shows.
My co-host has Down syndrome.
And he-
What?
My co-host, Big Chris, has Down syndrome
and he is the funniest damn person.
If you look at my-
You can see them?
Huh?
You can see?
No, I was sitting here trying not to laugh.
I was gonna ask you, like, can we laugh at you?
This guy's stupid.
It's okay.
You can see it on the right hand of you, man.
And look, all you have to do is look up Ricky Smiley
and Big Chris, karaoke night.
And that was, it was the-
And he know all the songs.
He get up there and he sing.
You can't get him off stage.
I say, hey, Chris, you're not getting paid.
You need to chill.
He say, okay.
You have to calm him down.
I don't know how to.
Where did that idea come about?
Like, how did that idea happen?
Ricky Smiley.
And Big Chris.
You're so messy.
Big Chris not even.
What songs he be doing, man?
What you made him sing?
You ever did Nelly Cut Your Grandma?
Nah, I'm going.
You really going to hell?
I can't.
You seen Big Chris?
You seen Big Chris?
Have you seen Big Chris?
Go, go, go, look.
Go.
Go on, camera, go.
I haven't seen him.
This is Big Chris.
Yeah, I ain't never seen Big Chris.
Chris doing his thing, man.
Yeah, that's my call.
You pay Big Chris, though.
Huh?
You better pay Big Chris.
He only make down payments.
You really going down.
Yeah.
He is funny as hell.
So he like to bring ladies on stage and sit them in a chair and play an R. Kelly song,
and he serenade them like the Capos or something.
Oh, I got to see that.
R. Kelly and Down Syndrome.
I got to see that. R. Kelly and Down Syndrome all on one stage.
You just got to watch the video.
It wipes the audience out. I take them on the road
with me. We do the improv
in Fort Lauderdale and Dania Beach.
Sell it out. He has a set?
No.
I bring him on stage in the middle of karaoke
and I have to
set boundaries for him.
And he love y'all.
Oh, oh, he love y'all.
He watch y'all all the time.
He always, he got his phone.
I bought him a phone.
Salute to Chris, man.
Yeah, he always showing me something that y'all,
hey, oh, he wants to come on.
You should have brought him with you, man.
Next time you come back.
When I come back, I'm going to bring him.
Don't bring him up here with him in here.
No, I would, come on.
No, no, no.
When you come for the special, bring him up here.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so when my special come out, we'll come up here and promote in here. No, come on. No, no. When you come for the special, bring him up here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so when my special come out,
we'll come up here and promote our brain.
Please.
That'll be my gift to your ass.
See, we have the same kind of humor
because we laugh at the same kind of shit.
My goodness.
Chris took me to the cemetery.
I think he had a cousin die.
In this particular cemetery,
you go there, you have to follow this red line.
It's in Birmingham.
We followed the red line.
He was at the grave crying.
And I looked up at the tombstone. It was Paul Bear Bryant, who was a former head coach at Alabama
back in the 70s.
And I didn't tell him,
see, you ain't shit.
You fucked me up
when you said he took you to the cemetery.
Yeah, somebody had died.
And we was at the wrong grade,
but I just let him.
I didn't want to tell him
that we was at Paul Bear Bryant grade.
So I had to get him back to the car.
I got him something to eat
and took him home.
Ricky Smiley, ladies and gentlemen.
Grief is grief, man.
He got it out.
Either way, Chris got it out either way either way
Chris got it out
pick up his book
sideshow is out right now
oh my god
we appreciate you
for joining us bro
thank you man
don't be a stranger man
you can come up here
anytime you want to tell
we don't play those
radio politics
so we want you to come
look if y'all ever in Miami
I have a boat
I'm a boat captain
I go to the Bahamas
every fucking weekend
in the summer
I dare you to take a weekend off and fuck with me.
Say no more. I'm down for that.
We broadcast on the boat.
You ask anybody, ask Jeff Johnson,
ask David Talbert.
I drive all the way across the ocean to
Bimini, Bahamas. It's only 55
miles off the coast of Fort Lauderdale.
And I drive my boat. We go all the way to the
Bahamas. I have a house that I rent.
You are more than welcome. If you just get to Fort Lauderdale, you don't have to worry about shit. I got all the way to the Bahamas. I have a house that I rent. You are more than welcome.
If you just get the foil out of there, you don't have to worry about shit.
I got you.
Big Chris, be there too.
You set the boundaries on the boat.
I'm going to fuck y'all up.
Y'all ready?
Don't.
Don't.
If Big Chris is sick, she might try to holler.
Wait till you see what I had him to do on the front of the boat.
No, on the front of the boat.
Not the Titanic.
Not the Titanic.
Hold on.
I hope you ain't had him like a phantom emblem or something.
Hold on.
The Titanic.
You finna scream, bro.
Let me, let me, let me.
Don't show us no pictures you're not supposed to see.
This is Instagram or TikTok.
Uh-uh, TikTok.
Let me see.
Okay, here it comes.
It's just slow because I don't, I couldn't get, figure out that Wi-Fi.
All right, here we go.
Here we go.
You finna scream when you see Chris. I don't have these. Alright, here we go. Here we go. You're gonna
scream when you see Chris.
Okay, here we go.
Here we go.
When I tell you, you're gonna fall
dead when you see this video if I can get to it.
Where is it? It's gonna be a meme of Uncle
on social media. Yeah, because he's been
saying, here we go.
Here we go. Here we go.
You ready?
Yeah, okay.
Y'all ready?
I'm watching, I'm watching, I'm watching.
You ready?
We gotta put this in the video.
Man, cut it out, man.
I can't laugh at that.
Cut it out, Ricky.
I cannot laugh at that.
Is somebody holding him?
That is not funny, no!
Cut it out, man.
I looked a bit Chris, though.
You know what to think about the Phantom?
What's that called, the Phantom what?
The Rolls Royce, the emblem?
He got like a Phantom emblem.
It's the Spirit of Ecstasy.
Man, you stupid, man.
It's not just Titanic. Oh, man. Man, you stupid, man. Spirit of Ecstasy. That's not Titanic.
Don't put it in the video.
Oh, my goodness. Oh, man.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's Ricky Smiley.
That is me.
Bring Big Chris up here because she is single and she's looking.
You single?
You surprised, right?
Uh, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
How old are you?
32.
Damn.
Oh.
That went over my head. You're 56 now. Uh, you're still standing. Big Chris back to Big Chris
The baby
Was it the baby
No the baby
That didn't work out Work out It didn't go past the interview Where was it going Baby? No, I wouldn't. Marla Wayne? Marla Wayne? No, the baby. That's the baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That didn't work out.
Work out?
It didn't go past the interview.
Where was it going?
What?
Not you sit back down.
Put your number on the phone.
Ricky Smiley.
Signed shirt.
Signed shirt without writing down.
And it's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Wake that ass up.
Early in the morning. The Breakfast Club.