The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Rickey Smiley On Grieving The Loss Of His Son, Comedy's Healing, New Book + More

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Rickey Smiley To Discuss Grieving The Loss Of His Son, Comedy's Healing, And New Book. Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wake that ass up early in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Jess is on maternity leave, so Lawn La Rosa is filling in. And we got a special guest in the building. We about to mess up so many people's heads
Starting point is 00:00:16 because they're going to be in their car like, am I listening to the right station? We got the brother Ricky Smiley here. Welcome, brother. Man, thank you for having me, man. How you feeling? Man, I'm feeling good, man. It's a dream toiley here. Welcome, brother. Man, thank you for having me, man. How you feeling? Man, I'm feeling good, man. It's a dream to be here.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Stop it. Bro, I lay in the bed and I sit here and I just scroll and watch all y'all videos. I've been a fan for years. Hold on. I want to say something before we get started with the conversation. I saw Ricky a couple weeks ago. I saw him in New Orleans at the Inspire Nola event. And I went up to him and I said something that I'm going to say now.
Starting point is 00:00:45 I want to publicly apologize to Ricky Smiley because several years ago, I gave Ricky Smiley donkey of the day because a radio executive asked me to. And you didn't deserve that, brother. Thank you. And so when I saw you, I told you that, you know, and I wanted to say that again publicly
Starting point is 00:01:02 because I feel like if you do something to somebody publicly that you don't agree with, you know, and I wanted to say that again publicly because I feel like if you do something to somebody publicly that you don't agree with, you should publicly apologize for it. So I want to say that to everybody, all our listeners. I want them to hear me say that you didn't deserve that, and I want to apologize to you. I appreciate that, man. The first time when you walked up on me, man, your energy, man,
Starting point is 00:01:22 the love and the respect, It takes a, you know, a big person. And I know that it was all part of the game because we have a mutual, one of your employees is one of my mentees. Who? Big Mac. Mac. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mac started us as an intern.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Oh, yeah. He started us as an intern and that's who he is. Well, I put him on stage. I'm the first one to put him on stage. That's dope. We'll talk about that because I put a lot of them on stage. I'm the first one to put him on stage. That's dope. We'll talk about that because I put a lot of him on stage. He gave a lot of comics there to start
Starting point is 00:01:48 or whatever. I've been in the game 35 years. But I really appreciate that, man. And don't feel no kind of way about it. I didn't take it personally. But, you know, it takes a special kind of person to apologize and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:02:02 And I thought nothing of it because if I thought anything bad, I wouldn't even be here. All right. You know what I'm saying? But I love you. I appreciate you, man. I think you're doing a fabulous job.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I met you at the White House. Yep. I was excited about that. And I hear you in Florida all the time. We see each other on the road every once in a while. I see you on the road as well. Always good running into you.
Starting point is 00:02:20 It's a pleasure meeting you. Yeah, it's nice to be with you too. I was going to start that, but now we even got to go there because I was going to ask you. One time, everybody was throwing got to go there because I was going to ask that one time. Everybody was throwing shots and I was like, I'm just glad that... It wasn't everybody.
Starting point is 00:02:29 It was me. He threw a shot back too. He did. I don't remember, but he did. See, we from the South, we can go outside and just wrestle. Wrestle. Not at this big age.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Not at this big age. He might have called you short. Y'all wrestle now, somebody might not get up, okay? Yeah, I might pull something at my age. Yeah, okay. I done got up there. Ricky might have called you short, bald-all wrestle now, somebody might not get up, okay? Yeah, I might pull something at my head. I done got up there. Ricky might have called you short, bald-headed, feet boring, chest-bending. We all got so many mutual people,
Starting point is 00:02:51 you know what I'm saying? Whether it's Mr. Harvey, whether it's Lil' Duval, whether it's Mac. So it's just like, what we doing? Yeah, we getting older. We don't have time. That's right. Well, you got a new book out right now. Yes, sir. Side Show. Now talk about, what's Side Show about. Well, you got a new book out right now. Yes, sir. Sideshow. Yes, sir. Sideshow. Now talk about what's Sideshow about? Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:07 You know the song that your parents, everybody's parents, let the sideshow begin. That's right. Hurry, hurry. It's about a sad clown. Right? My job as a professional comedian is to go on stage and make people laugh. And I lost my son about a year and a half ago.
Starting point is 00:03:24 And it's been hard because the bills don't stop coming. I'm still a performer. I still have to go on stage. And I had to dig deep and get in some real deep therapy to get myself together so I can continue as a performer. Because if I worked at, you know, Amazon, lifting boxes or delivering packages, that's one thing. But when your job is to make people laugh, when you're crying on the inside with the trauma that I experienced, that's what the song Sideshow talk about. See the man with the broken heart. You can see that he is sad.
Starting point is 00:04:02 It hurts so bad. See the girl who collect broken hearts as souvenirs. It's all about a clown in a circus performing, but dealing with stuff on the inside. I've watched you grieve out loud online. And the only reason I don't like that, it has nothing to do with how you feel. I know how people react.
Starting point is 00:04:22 And when you're already dealing with something, when you're already dealing with trauma, and then you give it to people online, then they how people react. And when you're already dealing with something, when you're already dealing with trauma, and then you give it to people online, then they come at you. How do you deal with that? Oh, no, it didn't bother me, Charlemagne. My job was I had to help other people because
Starting point is 00:04:37 the reason I was open with it is a lot of mothers out there that lost their 18-year-old, 17-year-old, 16-year-old, 15-year-old 15 my son was 32 when we were in new orleans uh your books your book signing was right after mine and i i had a couple that had lost their two year old right and these are that's some of the things that i talk about in the book it gave me it it gives you glimmers of hope and the glimmers of inspiration even during our traumatic times. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:06 So my son was 32 when this couple sitting out here crying at my book sign, their son was only two. Wow. And I could have lost my son at two, but God allowed me to have, you know, 30 years, 32 years. So you get a little gratitude from that. And it's crazy that you can get gratitude from something like that. You know, and you start looking at at it's a helpful to the book is a helpful tool for people that's going through the grief process because there's a lot of people out there and my book sign has been packed with people that have lost
Starting point is 00:05:36 their kids how do you still believe the Baldwin books to a new one yeah how do you still believe right you talk about losing your father at the age of six right and then you lose your son how do you just believe? Right. You talk about losing your father at the age of six. Right. And then you lose your son. How do you just not say, you know what, there is no higher power. How do you still remain focused and still have belief and still have hope and still have all of that with going through the pain that you've gone through? Christian background. I went to Sunday school every Sunday so I just have some some strong beliefs in a close relationship with God because it was nothing and nobody to lean on. I was in an apartment in Dallas Texas by myself you know when I found out that my son passed and I had an hour and a half I had an hour to make it to the airport and I'm packing a bag and on the phone with my other kids letting them know what happened and trying to get myself together and preparing myself to lead because my family needed
Starting point is 00:06:33 me I you know it didn't really hit me until a year later right but at that time my son has a mother and a wonderful stepfather so I had to them. I had to protect my mother, who was really close to my son because my mother, you know, recovering addict. My mother had 35 years clean. Had to protect her because they had a real special relationship because she could identify with the struggle. Then I had to protect my other kids. I had two kids in college, getting ready to graduate college.
Starting point is 00:07:05 My daughter that got shot, she was a senior in college, getting ready to graduate at Baylor. And then I had my son graduate in Alabama State, and then my oldest daughter. So just trying to get them and being calm and say, hey, here's what happened. Brandon didn't make it. I need you to meet me at the house immediately.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Just real calm. I need you to text me at the house immediately. Just real calm. I need you to text me. Let me know that you're on your way. Text me. Let me know. Just all of that. I had to be calm. I had to be cool.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I had to get in the car with my uncles who was crying. I had to turn the radio on at the R&B station. I had to turn on Frankie Beverly and Maze and go from the airport to the house. I'm comforting them because it reminded them of my dad's death, right? And so I'm just a child, man, that sat on the front row and watched my grandparents go through what they went through. And through my grandfather, I learned how to handle the situation because that's how my grandfather handled it as well.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Did you ever, because losing somebody, especially someone so close to your son, it changes you. Did you ever at first when you were trying to get to that, I mean, I guess I get through it. I don't know if you ever get through it. Were you afraid that when you got back on stage that first time that it wouldn't be the same, like your ability to kind of push through
Starting point is 00:08:18 and make people laugh wouldn't be the same? No. You know, Charlamagne, one thing about funny, it don't change. That's right. You find something to laugh at, especially in a trauma. Yeah, when your ass hit that stage, man, them jokes come. Them jokes. Like, when you get somebody on the front row laughing,
Starting point is 00:08:33 I cry all the way up. My first show was in Cleveland at the Horace Casino. And I cried from the hotel all the way to the venue, all the way backstage. Blew my nose. Did it like that. Made sure my nose was clean and walked on stage and got them jokes and cried after i got off stage and you know i was coming but i've been in therapy i was getting therapy twice a week so i was prepared to go on stage again my son died on a sunday that wednesday i was back on the radio they said take
Starting point is 00:09:03 as much time as you need. Well, either you lay in the bed and think about all of that, or you get your ass up and go do your morning show, go do your radio show, because all the mothers in Chicago and in Columbia and in Charleston and in Atlanta, all over the country, their kids died too. Much is given given much is required you can't cancel the show god put you in this position and put you in a leadership position you have to lead and i still went to the salvation army like i do on a regular basis i fed the
Starting point is 00:09:37 homeless with my son clothes in the car to go to the funeral home that was a dark wednesday i'll never forget it you have to do it everything all of this stuff and i don't want you to ever forget this all of this stuff amy is a test it's a test our pastor has been teaching us that for years it's a test god is watching you through your struggles through your trials and tribulations and looking at you seeing how you're going to handle this are you going to make it about you are you going to use this situation to help other people but i still i was still smart enough to go ahead and get the help that i needed in the process because i had to get therapy because this trauma is a bad car accident how do you think you would have been reacting without the without the therapy oh man I probably would have been dead I had my son was like you know my son was a comic no I know that shout out
Starting point is 00:10:31 to me my son was a comedian I'll sing you some clips my son man I remember my son headlined his first gig at the Stardome in Birmingham and I walked backstage he was by himself he had on some uh uh he had on some uh some black pants and i was roasting him because he had on a white shirt and some and some uh suspenders and a black bow tie i was like well yeah was he, what you got on? He said, oh, you told me to dress nice. I said, okay, you look nice. I said, but, I said, yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 00:11:13 And he went on stage and performed. I stood backstage and I watched him perform. He had a really good set. And he was doing headlining shows. He had just started, you know, closing shows. Man, he was funny. He had kind of like a sense of closing shows man he was funny he had a kind of like a sense of humor and uh he was being mentored by roy wood jr wow you know their clothes
Starting point is 00:11:30 you know we all came from birmingham same radio station all that stuff so roy was giving him some opportunities and uh uh one time now this is the funniest he was on stage performing so he had stayed at my house left some clothes on the dryer you know he took the clothes out of the washing machine put it in the dryer and then he took all the clothes and put the shit on top of the dryer I was mad as hell you know cuz I like you to cook you know for your stuff up and put you and I went to the company club you perform and he was on stage I didn't care cuz I was mad I went into DJ Boop and got on the microphone and said you get your ass off stage you need to come fold these damn clothes up.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Oh my God. And we got into a whole argument and the audience was cracking up, but I was for real. And he was laughing it off and said, yeah, when you get on stage, you come out and get these damn clothes off my truck. Slam the microphone and walked out the door. That's some funny stuff that I always enjoy talking about. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:24 How has it been like, you know, because when you write these books, you put your most vulnerable, deepest thoughts into these books, and you've got to go out here and do this. You've got to have these conversations. How's that been for you? I've gotten used to it. You know how it is. Once you do one interview, you do another interview,
Starting point is 00:12:42 you keep doing interviews, you just get accustomed to talking about it, and then you develop some really good talking points that's going to help other people. Because what people have been telling me is the feedback that I've been getting is, hey, bruh, it's been helping me out. You know how many people walk up to me and said that they lost a loved one and they can't talk about it? And just because they hear you on the radio every morning,
Starting point is 00:13:04 now they're coming out to your book sign i have people walking up crying almost 90 of the people that come out about a book have suffered a loss and can't talk about it and do not go to therapy so i've been promoting therapy because when you roll your ankle you don't pull out a bible. You go to the doctor. Go to the doctor, that's right. Absolutely. The muscle, the brain is a muscle just like your ankle. Why is it that we black folks have this stigma that we won't go get help? That don't mean that you're crazy. You have to get somebody and talk to somebody that's going to help you process those feelings and emotions because you can go into depression,
Starting point is 00:13:43 start affecting other organs in the body. Some people don't make it from their loss. emotions because you can go into depression start affecting other organs in the body some people don't um make it from um from their loss they die you know so a lot of times people you know we've been taught as kids you keep home home business in the house right you never really talk about what happens inside your house like you said that winds up killing you absolutely that depression that anxiety all those facts all those feelings every time you cry in me do you know that's like popping the cap off of a pressure cooker?
Starting point is 00:14:07 You're releasing. I cried this morning. Man, I sat on the side of my hotel bed. I was having some anxiety. I called a good friend of mine. She answered the phone when I heard her voice. I just started crying, bro. I just let it out. I just cried. I just needed to
Starting point is 00:14:23 cry. I felt it building up yesterday, and I just started crying, and. I just let it out. I just cried. I just needed to just cry. I felt it building up yesterday, and I just started crying. And the changing of the seasons, you know, that affects you. I think they call it seasonal. Seasonal depression. Seasonal depression. I've been dealing with anxiety and depression for my whole life, and I started going to therapy in 2016. And when I wrote a book about it in 2018, my dad read the book,
Starting point is 00:14:43 and I had a cousin who completed suicide that week and my dad told me, it was the week of Thanksgiving 2018, I'm home in South Carolina, and he told me that between reading my book and my cousin completing suicide, he told me for the first time ever that he was going to therapy two and three times a week,
Starting point is 00:14:59 that he tried to kill himself 30 plus years ago and that in South Carolina, they put him on 10 to 12 different medications for his for his mental health and I remember I asked my mom I said mom, you know dad was going through all this and she said I thought he was playing crazy to get a check But that's what they're doing to stop they give you the crazy check But imagine if he would have had that conversation with me when I was young He just told me that the car was the way we're discussing it right now Right imagine if we heard, you know older men in our life having that conversation early We'd have known that the stuff we're discussing it right now, imagine if we heard older men in our life having that conversation early.
Starting point is 00:15:27 We'd have known that the stuff we was going through was normal. Yeah. My granddad never talked about it. My dad died. My dad was 26. My granddaddy didn't talk about it until he was like 85 because he would be at my house all the time. And I would say, granddaddy, what happened?
Starting point is 00:15:40 My dad died here in New York. My dad died of a drug overdose here in new york and uh my granddaddy was like uh he just started telling me it's like i was there when they um bought your dad's body in i stood there like a man i was standing in the morgue when they rolled my son body in there like like i took that shit like a g i didn't shed a tear i just made sure everything was done properly. Bought the barber in, told the barber how I want my son's mustache and beard done. And I stood right there and I took it.
Starting point is 00:16:12 But all that stuff. You cried in the car, though. It hadn't really hit me yet. It's coming out in small pieces like this morning. Maybe this morning was some of it and um i i didn't cry at the funeral because um my my granddaughter was looking at me the whole time was like peekaboo because she didn't know what was going on you know the whole while you know she looking at me we playing because you know and i just had that memory of my grandparents crying at Ricky have you dealt with it then because it doesn't seem like you fully dealing with it yeah it's a process bro you know
Starting point is 00:16:53 do you ever think about just giving away just stopping you know like I don't want to do this anymore was that ever a mind no man we we got to save people, man. Listen, some have to die so others can live. You understand? And, you know, no cross, no crown, bro. We have to go through what we have to go through, and we have to talk about it. And I'm just trying to break the generational curse of, number one, not talking about it, not going and getting therapy and getting help,
Starting point is 00:17:23 and to talk about you know uh drug addiction you know um i had a son and a nephew age 32 and a niece i had a niece a son a nephew all died at age 32 within two years of each other can you talk a little bit about that like just in real time when they were here dealing with the addiction and trying to help them through it and like also wanting them to get better but addiction understanding it like it kind of takes over where it's not it's not even just them anymore like it's kind of it's a big beast yeah the only thing I regret I didn't have a good understanding of the illness because I had a niece and a nephew that was cool and calm and respectful but it didn't affect my son that way. You know,
Starting point is 00:18:05 my son would go off about stuff, you know, and, um, it, it damaged our relationship or whatever. Cause I didn't understand like, Hey,
Starting point is 00:18:13 I'm your dad. You can't say that to me. You know, I'm driving around looking for you to fight you in the middle of the street. You know, I raised you. I cook food for you. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:18:21 I wash your clothes. You slept in the bed with me when it was thunder and lightning. Don't say that to me. You know? so I just didn't have a clear understanding of that but I did everything I could to to save to save his life did you ever blame yourself at all oh no that's one thing I never uh felt I never felt guilt now you know I felt a lot of stuff but guilt was not one of them I did everything I could as a father to save his life. Rehab the 70 grand off the bat. Boom.
Starting point is 00:18:50 We did that twice. My mom was trying to help him. I just couldn't get him to get him well. Would you do anything different as a dad during any of those times?
Starting point is 00:19:05 That's a good question. get him well. Would you do anything different as a dad during any of those times? And the reason I'm asking, you know, I have six, so I like to... That's a good question. I wasn't tough on him. He was the one that I coddled. I was tough on my other kids. Like, the other kids, I was just really, really, really, really tough on them, and he was the one that
Starting point is 00:19:22 I just kind of coddled and did everything for and took everybody, because that's my first born or whatever I just wish that I was tougher I know that sounds strange because it sounds like I should say I should have been easier on him I was easy on him I should have been tougher on him like I was the other kids what do we call tougher though cuz I you know we come from the air I was getting beat with extension cords and my daddy made me go take a bath. I gotta go, I don't beat my kids.
Starting point is 00:19:49 I don't even touch my kids at all. Right. So what do you call a tough one? Uh, I just wouldn't, um, give him, you know, I, I, I don't think I popped Brandon. I hit him, uh, I popped him a couple of times when he was about 14, made him go stand in the corner and go do that little thing right there
Starting point is 00:20:10 I'm gonna make sure those legs and those calves are straight I didn't by the time I started getting tough on him it was time for him to go off to college, you know But the other kids like Malik went to military school then he went to img academy i would have so he had a military mindset i think this one but i tried to do that for brandon because i sent him to the national guard you know sam so my son's service he had a flag draped over his castle because he served our country but uh i just think i caught on him a little too much and he just loved on him and he was the one I loved on, hugged on, you know, and just up under me all the time.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Yeah, it's hard when you're a parent nowadays. Like I said, the era we grew up in. I'd be talking to my 9-year-old, like she a basketball player, like, boy, you wouldn't have survived in the 90s. You couldn't have played in the 90s. But what my grandma and my mama and daddy was doing to me? Right. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:21:03 But the key is, it's good that you talked to her with that coach voice because we have to give kids more of what we had as opposed to what we didn't have. That's right. That's right. You know what I'm saying? You like who you are. You like how you turned out, right?
Starting point is 00:21:15 Give that same thing to your kids. The evolved version of you, I'm sure. Right. And through therapy, I've learned to love every version of me. I think that's what you got to do in life. You know, like every version of you serve the purpose. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:21:27 In chapter 12 of your book, it's Let the Tears Fall. You said that it took you a year for all of this to really like hit you. Yeah. What was that day like when you were like, I'm feeling it? Like that first time where it was like. That one year anniversary, a few days before that one year anniversary, man, it hit me like he had just died. And I was sitting.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I had just got off the air. I was down in South Florida because I didn't want to be in the house for that one-year anniversary. I just wanted to go get away. And, man, it hit me, man. And I did some crying. I think it was a bad mistake for me to be there by myself, but I just kind of sat on the couch and just cried pretty much for a couple of days,
Starting point is 00:22:10 like really cried because the only difference was I didn't have a casket and some flowers and some condolences, right? I had all of that to keep me distracted when it actually happened. I had to protect everybody. But that one year came in and it was like, it was terrible. What about the chapter when addiction chases the bloodline? Was that difficult to write?
Starting point is 00:22:34 Cause you know, you gotta go through your whole generational lineage with that. Was that a difficult chapter to write? No, it was just being open and honest. My dad struggled, my mom struggled. I had wonderful grandparents. My granddad talked to me every day. Church, Sunday school.
Starting point is 00:22:49 You know, hey, here's a trumpet. Play that. Here's some piano lessons. Let's go do that. I did trumpet, little league football. Did it all. My grandparents kept me busy with the discipline and instruction. Talked to me every day.
Starting point is 00:23:02 So I didn't have those issues. And then he always talked about how my dad died. So don't do this. So I just stuck with it. And to this day, I don't drink or smoke. I always wonder how grief impacts people who lost their parents at a very, very, very young age. Does it hit you later in life?
Starting point is 00:23:20 Do you see somebody out with their parents and it hits you? Like, what is it? It did when I was a kid, but what hurt me about my dad's death was watching my grandparents cry like that on the front row. I'm in therapy for that. That comes up in therapy. That wipes me out. That wipes me out more than my son's death.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Why? I'm a grandmama's baby. You understand. You're from the South. Like, watching my grandparents cry like that on their front row, man, I can't get over it. Even when my grandparents died, the only thing I could think about,
Starting point is 00:23:54 their casket was in the same spot my dad's casket was in. The only thing I could think about was them crying on that front row, April the 11th, 1974. I will never forget it, man. It just tears my soul out of my body. I can deal with my son's death, but that's what I struggle with more than anything. Wow.
Starting point is 00:24:12 And that's why I didn't cry at my son's funeral because my granddaughter was watching me. Oh, you didn't want to traumatize her like that? Traumatize her like that, wow. Dang, dang, boy. Yeah. Life is a motherfucker. I'm about to cry.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I'm just sitting up here talking about this. We about to all start motherfucker. I'm about to cry now just sitting up here talking about this. We about to all start crying. I just want to hug you. That's what I don't understand about, that's why I noticed, like just putting this out there to the world and having to relive
Starting point is 00:24:33 all these stories and retell these stories. Is it therapeutic or does it feel like you opening up a whole new world? Man, this is therapy because if I go and get in that car and start crying,
Starting point is 00:24:42 that is helpful. It is helpful to cry. It was helpful for me to cry this morning. You understand? I'm good. But I also think what you're doing is helping people that don't know how to deal with it and can't talk about it because now they have a friend in you in this book and they're saying, well, let me see how Ricky dealt with it.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Let me see what the troubles he's going through. It is normal. I can feel this way. Because a lot of times people feel like they're on their own. Yeah. And they don't have those feelings. So that's one amazing thing about this book. Well, let's talk about something else for a second.
Starting point is 00:25:09 You put on a lot of comedians, Ricky. And I think that coming from the South, right, people don't – I don't think people realize how big you are sometimes. You know what I'm saying? I don't think they realize how much money you got, number one. But also how rich you are and just how big you are. And I think it's almost a stigma with comedians from the South. They don't get the respect that they got, number one. But also how rich you are and just how big you are. And I think it's almost a stigma with comedians from the South.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Like they don't get the respect that they deserve, I think. Yeah, I just do it for the love of the art, Charlemagne. And I remember cussing D-Ray Davis out, snatching a drink out of his hand because he was too young to be drinking. Hey, give me that. You know, I had a little comedy club back in Birmingham called the Comberstone. So I would have like D-Ray, Corey Holcomb.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Corey Holcomb was like, hey, man, I ain't never been outside of Chicago. I was like, okay, cool. Let's go on the road. You know, I would take those guys on the road, Corey Holcomb, D-Ray Davis. A lot of them, man, that Tyler, some of them have passed away. You know, I would just take them on the road and help them because that's what Steve did for me. You know, nobody have to, don't nobody have to fool you.
Starting point is 00:26:14 You know what I'm saying? Some people can just ignore you. Steve was one of those guys, man, that was helping in training coming down. I started November the 13th, 1989. Wow. That's the firstth, 1989. Wow. That's the first time I went on stage. I met Steve before he did Showtime at the Apollo. And then, I'll tell you a story.
Starting point is 00:26:33 I wrote about it in my first book. And just to talk about the discipline and the structure of comedy, I was dressed like Flavor Flav because I thought that was a thing. I'm doing a show with Steve. And Steve was like, listen, people pay money to see us perform. Your outfit is nice. He said, but tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:26:52 I want you to come dress better. I want you to dress... He said, I want you to dress nice. Bruce Ayers, the owner, was standing in the door watching. I was embarrassed. I felt bad. I felt like my career was over. My feelings door watching. I was embarrassed. I felt bad. I felt like my whole career was over.
Starting point is 00:27:06 You know, my feelings were hurt. I was like, oh, shit. You know, I don't want to blow an opportunity with Steve Harvey. Man, he said, you can go ahead and introduce me. He said, but tomorrow, let's get it together. I said, yes, sir. You know, because you can't say nothing nowadays. You can't correct nowadays because everybody senses it.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I said, y'all, give it up and show your love right now. But Steve Harvey, I'll never forget it queen latifah come on for the love of money off that new jack city soundtrack and he came up i'm talking about it was electrifying i wanted to stay there and watch man i ran out that damn comedy club door i jumped in my 1979 toyota corolla four-speed i peeled out of that coming to club driver i drove all the way across town ran in my apartment who put on a suit I had more from jeans West I used to work at jeans Western you know put my suit on boom tie you know running driving back I made it back to the kind of club just in time when I walked back in days like arch I've been wonderful God bless y'all my name's
Starting point is 00:28:01 Steve Harvey peace when I walk back up there and had that suit on, no nigga, not tomorrow, tonight. That's what's up. Right now. What Steve said to you when he saw you? So he dabbed me up and he, you know how he do. Yeah, he push you, that's what I'm talking about. You know how he do, he push you.
Starting point is 00:28:18 He look me up and down and he said, he said, I'm gonna talk to you after the show. I said, yes sir. Steve's anointed, man. Oh, my God. I don't care what nobody says. You know, after the show, he said, follow this car right here. I followed him back to the hotel room.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I sat on it. What's up, y'all? This is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand-new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Check it. Did you know, did you know, I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, it was called a woman. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I edged the bed and took a little notepad and a pencil and he lectured me for about two hours. And me and another comedian sat on
Starting point is 00:30:11 the edge of the bed and wrote notes. How to do this. Why not do this? You did this joke wrong. Why are you cussing on stage? Why are you dressed like this? AT&T is in the audience. You need to do this. I took all that stuff. I took it serious because I wanted to be great. I wanted to be better at what I did. And I ended up
Starting point is 00:30:32 opening up for the Kings of Comedy. I did some shows where I did a few dates with the Kings of Comedy. You had to ride with Steve. You don't get your own limousine. You have to ride with him. So you have to be disciplined. Get in the limousine, keep your mouth closed, slide all the way up, put your back to the driver, speak when spoken to. Had to share a dressing room with Steve. We frat brothers, but I'm not ever comfortable enough just because you're a Q, and I'm a Q.
Starting point is 00:30:56 I'm finna come in here like I'm entitled. Be quiet and speak when spoken to. That's the discipline I got from my grandparents. Who was the other comedian on the bed with you? Probably Sir Walt. Yeah, a comedian you? I was probably Sir Walt. Yeah, a comedian that lives in Birmingham, Sir Walt. And he was mentoring a lot of us. But he was really into teaching.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Come over here. I'm sitting down. I mean, we sitting there. He's standing up, walking back and forth. And he's talking to us. And I remember a couple of times I was about to nod off because I was so sleepy because I go to bed early. But that was something that was life changing. What got you-
Starting point is 00:31:29 Steve still like that. I changed the title of my first book, because of Steve. What you mean? I was going to name my book, I Don't Give a Fuck and Neither Should You, a self-help guide on how not to give a fuck. And we was driving around in a ranch in Georgia and I told him that title and he looked at me and he said,
Starting point is 00:31:44 I gave you the look. No, no no, player, that ain't it. He said, that's the problem with y'all. Y'all don't give a fuck. We need to, y'all need to give a fuck. He said, all people need to give a fuck. And he do the same thing, lectured me for about an hour and I'm like, all right, I got it. Yeah, big brother mentor.
Starting point is 00:31:57 I was supposed to be on his morning show and we had a big argument sitting in this truck and then Rashawn got on the phone and said, no, you need to do your own thing. We're going to use nephew Tommy. He said, you go over here. If it don't work out, you can come be on the show with us. Wow.
Starting point is 00:32:12 So hold on. You were supposed to be a co-host on Steve Harvey's show. So Steve was going to give me, when Steve left Radio 1, they said, who do you think? He said, Ricky Smiley. So I went down there to do the morning show with steve for two weeks so he could gradually hey turn the show over to me hey i'm gonna be gone in two weeks but ricky smiley gonna be taking over the chemistry was so good and we were so funny i was just throwing him all kind of alley oops making him recycle jokes and and we were just so funny on the air together we look at each other like hey man, man, we need to, we need to, you know.
Starting point is 00:32:46 And me and Steve had, we was like, okay, we're going to stick together. I'm going to go to New York with you. And we got in the car. Rashawn, our other frat brother who was Steve's manager at the time. You know Rashawn. Rashawn said, hell no. He said, no, you know, I just have this idea that you should go over here. We're going to bring in Nephew Tommy.
Starting point is 00:33:04 And if it don't work out, you always come back but let's give this a try let's see how you do was that tough to hear that cuz you cuz think about it like you go to New York with Steve Harvey it's like you said what do you think was it hard to accept that no you shouldn't know it went because once Steve's look gave me that look when he did the phone he just kind of got you know that look that's right you know when he gave me that look when he did the phone, he just kind of, you know that look. That's right. You know that look.
Starting point is 00:33:26 When he gave you that big brother look, like, okay, we're going to go ahead. You're not going to argue with him. Right. Who do you do that for? Because you talk a lot about people that you mentor and that you help, but who's somebody that you do that for that we might not know about that might have started in your clubs or just unknown and now is taking taking over comedy wise? Oh man
Starting point is 00:33:45 Lil Duval was somebody that I have a real good relationship with that I was doing some you know mentorship because remember I was the host of Company View in 2000. So you was a lot of people mentored just by being on that show? Right that's what 85 South
Starting point is 00:34:01 they told me I'm tripping like Carlos Miller was like, bro, I met you when I was 14 years old. You was in a hotel. I got excited. I'm hearing these stories and stuff, man, not realizing the impact on comedy. Because I'm on BET Monday through Saturday.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Like when Comic View really blew up, it was in Atlanta. And then I hosted again, Charlamagne, in 2004. And then the year after 2000 2001 i had my own little tv show the way we do it that's the first time you know and i was doing all these characters and all these voices and and all this kind of stuff and so when comics needed help and needed mentorship i would always you know hey dress nice hey stop cursing does that curse word make that joke funny are you cursing just to be nice. Hey, stop cursing. Does that curse word make that joke funny? Are you cursing just to be cursing?
Starting point is 00:34:47 That's a real thing. I just had that conversation with a comic. I said, hey, man, you curse too much. The cursing is not making the joke funnier. But if the curse word is a part of the punchline, then use it. I said because it's like I give the onion example. Like you eat an onion, it's nasty, but if you take it and chop it up and saute it
Starting point is 00:35:08 and put some flour on it, you're still eating the onion, but you can't taste it. It's just an analogy that I use with comics, and I make them redo the joke. And they're like, damn, you did the same joke and got the same laugh, got a bigger laugh, because people are not offended. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:35:22 So, you know, it's no training in stand-up anymore. You know, back then in the 80s, late 80s, 90s, comics would pull you to the side, Mark Curry and them, they would pull you. George Wallace got on my ass so bad one night.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Why? You was bombing or what? No, man. I did some jokes behind him after he closed, after he headlined the show. I didn't know any better. He said, you don't do them damn jokes after me.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Said, God damn it, I'll make one phone call, your career over. Damn, motherfucker. I said, I'm sorry. He said, yeah, you say goodnight, read the announcement, and bring your ass back tomorrow. I said, yes, sir. Damn.
Starting point is 00:35:59 And I came on back, he was nice to me the next night, and he won't admit it to this day. I said, Joey, you remember? He said, I didn't do that shit. Shut up. But it was good. I needed that. Shit, if I got a booger in my nose, tell me.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Don't let me be out here bad. Put me to the side and help me. But you can't even do it. You feel like you do that nowadays and somebody will be like, oh, man, he threatened me. He hurt my feelings. He hurt my feelings. He hate me. He insulted me, offended me. It's like, oh, man, he threatened me. He hurt my feelings. He hurt my feelings. He hate me. He insulted me, offended me.
Starting point is 00:36:27 It's like, what? Man, I tell comics, man, because that's the only way. Ask Corey Hokeman. Ask D. Ray Davis. I used to get at them all the time about little stuff, man. I'm like, hey, man, I think D. Ray was 19 or 20 when I bought him to Birmingham. I said, you can't drink nothing. You can't have that.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Give me that. Fussing at him about little stuff, man. And now he's great. And we laugh about it all the time. He's just going to always be my little brother or whatever. They all come to the house. If you ever come to Birmingham, you know you're welcome. I cook my ass off or whatever.
Starting point is 00:36:56 That 100,000 square foot house? No, 100 acres of land. I wish. You're right. Y'all always welcome. Now, there was a rumor that in your contract, it said that you had to wear a dress. Oh, man. I don't pay that stuff. I didn't're right. Y'all always welcome. Now, there was a rumor that in your contract, it said that you had to wear a dress. Oh, man, I don't pay that stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:10 God damn, man. You should have put, you should have bitten to the onion. You ain't put no flour on you. You ain't sauteed or nothing. God damn. So, I mean, I started doing comedy in 89, man. You think there's a contract somewhere. I'm just messing with you.
Starting point is 00:37:26 I know. That didn't bother me. What bothered me was people believed it. Oh, yeah, they did. Because it's always been that thing about the wear the dress, the not wear the dress. It's comedy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Listen, it's comedy. I grew up watching Flip Wilson. Yeah. Flip Wilson is the greatest of all time. And right when you're laughing at Philip Wilson, he turned around to do Geraldine. I would sit there and watch that with my grandmother. My characters came, man, I was doing prank phone calls
Starting point is 00:37:56 on the radio, I was doing Bernie Jenkins. And whoever would have thought a character that you do on the radio, calling funeral homes and all this stuff, turn into a character and somebody asks you to play the character, calling funeral homes and all this stuff, turn into a character and somebody asks you to play the character in a movie or whatever, you know, it's funny that all that stuff is taboo now. They do that in Philly, Mother Knows.
Starting point is 00:38:14 They do it on Power 99. You ever heard it? No. And they do the calls. I just thought about that when you said it. I don't know if they got it from you, but Mother Knows, they prank call people all the time. That's a thing in radio.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Everybody do prank calls. Man, man. Mother Knows. I started out listening to the Jerky Boys. Yeah. Absolutely. And then our- Crank Yankers.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Remember Crank Yankers? Yeah, Crank Yankers. Roy Mercer. But the characters develop. I do a redneck character. I do Bubert. I do Bernie Jenkins. I do Joe Willie.
Starting point is 00:38:38 I have a gospel quartet. Joe Willie and the Deuteromanaires. You know, a little gospel group. Deuteromanaires is crazy. I do Lil Darryl. Lil Darryl, yeah. Precious. I do a lot of characters.
Starting point is 00:38:48 I'm talented. I play the trumpet. I play the French horn. I play the bass guitar. I play the tuba. I'm an organist. I play the B3 Hammond at church on Sundays. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:38:59 I study music. I'm just multi-talented. And you can't make everybody like you I have never did anything had any beat with any I had one beat with a comic and it was a quiet beat for 20 years
Starting point is 00:39:14 and that was Arnaz J me and Arnaz J could not freaking stand each other because a show happened and you know comics get there early a show happened and you know, a company's get there early and go on first. You know, RDSL got there and didn't do the order
Starting point is 00:39:30 or either something happened, but we had beef. Nobody knew about it. Right. Right, let me show you how God worked. Nobody knew about it. COVID came. I'm sitting on Delta. I'm in Fort Lauderdale Airport,
Starting point is 00:39:42 getting ready to fly to Atlanta where I can drive home, you know. And I see a dude getting on a plane with a mask on. He got fishing rods. Well, who fish? RNSJ, Lavelle Crawford, and what's my man, Shadiq Houston. Those are the three comics that really fish. They fish, fish. They go fishing.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I said, that's RNSJ. I haven't spoke to RNSJ in 20 years. So I got up and he was sitting right next to me. He sat right next to me. I didn't say nothing. That's God. God was testing you. I said, I know that's RNSJ. I haven't talked to him in 20
Starting point is 00:40:18 years. It wasn't no ugly beef like, I'm going to kill you. Just like, forget you, forget you, or whatever. You know I'm a Christian person. I'm gonna kill you just like get you forget you or whatever and uh uh I'm you know I'm a Christian person I'm all about resolving and loving on people because that's my heart and uh I grabbed his arm and he did it like that and I looked I grabbed and he's like like what and I pulled my mask down man he, he started laughing. He started laughing. So Charlemagne, give me your hand, the other hand. The whole flight, me and R&J, like this.
Starting point is 00:40:54 When he started telling me that the 20 years, all the people that passed away, everything that happened to him, we cried the whole flight From Fort Lauderdale to Atlanta. I said, man, I apologize. He said, no. He said, my wife been trying to get me to call you for years. Been on me about that. I said, no, you don't have to.
Starting point is 00:41:16 It was just love. Because I had always said, if I see Arne's again, I'm just going to tackle him. I saw Cat one time and he had said some stuff. That's before the internet came out. He had said some stuff years ago. He was roasting all the comedians
Starting point is 00:41:35 that wore a dress, that played a character. We was talking about it on the Fox one day. I was driving down 14th Street in Atlanta. I saw Cat walking across the street. I had my granddad in the car. I was in my it on the Fox one day. And I was driving down 14th Street in Atlanta. I saw a cat walking across the street. And I had my granddad in the car. It was a Ford F-150. And, you know, I'm one
Starting point is 00:41:51 of the type of dudes I don't be carrying. I'm like, hey, cat, what's up? He was walking to Starbucks. I'll never forget it. He said, come on, have a cup of coffee with me. A cup of coffee with me. So I went over there and before he went to Starbucks, he came around I said hey man cat we just said this is my granddad um or whatever my granddad saw you on tv before my
Starting point is 00:42:10 granddad said yeah and cat stood in the door had a conversation with my grandfather or whatever and that was like one of the last times I saw him and there was no issue because it's all love or whatever because you know um I don't know why I never did anything to him. If I did, you know, I'm always open, man enough to apologize. He felt like he was clearing the record on Shea Shea. Because I think he, or was it that he was supposed to play a role? You said you were supposed to be Money Mike or something like that? Well, I did.
Starting point is 00:42:39 When I went out there, I auditioned for that part. And that's what I really auditioned for. I didn't audition for the Santa Claus. If I'm not mistaken, the Santa Claus role was supposed to be for, what's his name? He played in the first Friday, the comedian that passed away. Oh, man. That was on drugs and stealing and breaking in people's house.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Oh, AJ Johnson. AJ Johnson. I think AJ Johnson was supposed to play. And this is what I heard or whatever. And they put me in that role because at that time I was on BET and stuff like that. But I did audition for it. That's what I went out there and read for. My manager at the time came on the air, cleared that up.
Starting point is 00:43:20 David E. Talbert came on Instagram and cleared up the fact that there's no country. He had hired me to play my role in the movie First Sunday before he hired Kay. He cleared that part up. But Cube clarified it, too. Absolutely. Cube said that you did audition for Money Mike, but when they saw how you moved, they thought you'd be better for Santa Claus. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't have no beef.
Starting point is 00:43:43 I love everybody. If there is an opportunity, yeah. Yeah, and I don't have no beef. I love everybody. If there is an opportunity to resolve, that's why the rap beef and stuff with rappers getting killed, I don't want comedy to ever come to that. You know, that's not what I do. That's not how I was raised. You know, we from the South. That's right.
Starting point is 00:43:59 And we just don't do that. I want to talk about some of the revolutionary stuff I feel like you've done in radio. I feel like Dish Nation. You know what I'm saying? We had never seen that before. And I mean, as a radio head, to see radio personalities on TV in that era, that felt like watching Howard when Howard did it on E.
Starting point is 00:44:16 So that was a revolutionary thing. And also making the move to Urban A.C. Yeah. Like knowing when it was, I don't know if you knew it was time or, like, how'd that happen? It just happened perfectly.
Starting point is 00:44:28 We, you know, we was on the hip hop stations and it was great, but we was getting older. You know, I'm in, I'm almost 50.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Brett, you know, we all in our 40s or whatever. We ain't got no business playing certain stuff because we just going, you going naturally age. You just can't,
Starting point is 00:44:42 you just can't, can't be on the radio. We don't even know who some of the, we didn't know who some of the rappers are that we playing. Like, who is this? Now, Brat, Brat the first female rapper to sell over a million. She like, who? You know, you got the back seller song.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Ah, this who? We looking over the top of our glasses. Like, what about? But y'all used to make it funny, I used to watch y'all it would be funny but we just naturally got old and then when Tom Joyner retired they just slid us over
Starting point is 00:45:12 and now we playing R&B songs and now just relaxing the more we chill whose idea was it to throw Portia or to get Portia on the show on Dish Nation that was so to throw Portia or to get Portia on the show? On Dish Nation? Yeah. That was so good. Well, Portia,
Starting point is 00:45:28 she would fill in for Brat. Okay. Portia came, did a great job, and she would fill in for Brat, and then they'd say, hey, you want to do Dish Nation? So anybody came in and filled in, the producer, and said, hey, we can get you some makeup right quick. Can you do Dish Nation? Here's the script.
Starting point is 00:45:44 And it's nothing. It's just reading the teleprompter and talk about what we have already talked about on the radio. Then we were doing Dish Nation while we was on the air. So during commercial breaks, we would shoot a scene from Dish Nation. Wow. Oh, I don't know why I thought that was the show. Yeah, I thought it was the show. Yeah, I thought it was a Clipsy Y'all show.
Starting point is 00:46:00 No, man, we was doing it. When we first started, we was in that damn same room for six hours. We was working our ass off. And when did you know you wanted to do radio? Because radio is not a job for everybody, right? People say they love radio. Right. And then when they got to get there an hour before and two hours after and they can't move, and especially
Starting point is 00:46:18 with comedians because you guys are on the road. Right. You might not be able to go on the road some days. So when did you know that, I'm going to stay with this? Man, I used to listen to these two white dudes named Mark and Brian. You remember Mark and Brian, Charlemagne? They big in L.A. Mark and Brian. Mark and Brian, they had this big-ass morning show.
Starting point is 00:46:33 But they came from Birmingham. These are the first dudes I used to hear doing characters, and they did some prank phone calls, too. So I used to listen to Mark and Brian in high school. They went to L.A. and became famous, but they came from Birmingham. And I was like, y'all listening to white dudes on Kix 106, you know, cause that's how I got into soft rock. That's why I'm sitting up here listening to Fleetwood Mac and the Eagles and Steely Dan. You know, I'd be on some chill stuff. You have to listen to that stuff, you know, but I was crazy about radio and i i wanted to do it and i'm gonna tell y'all something
Starting point is 00:47:06 i drove when they put up the new stage hip-hop station in birmingham 95.7 jam you know deja yeah deja came from my radio station wow deja came from my radio station yeah she used to be up here she's on uh wbls now right no you're talking about another day about another day she's on he think about deja vu deja vu that's awesome yeah she's on with Kelly, that TV show, whatever. Kelly and – it used to be Ryan and Kelly. Right. She's on that. And then Roy Wood Jr. came from – we all come from WBHJ, 95.7 Jam.
Starting point is 00:47:39 I drove 60 miles every morning just for the opportunity to be on the radio, and I got paid nothing. I was hungry, and I wanted it. Steve used to tell me, hey, get on the radio. That keep your name out there. It keep your brand out there. So now, Charlamagne, I do my comedy shows during the week. I don't do comedy clubs on weekends.
Starting point is 00:47:58 So I do a show. I just go do a 7 o'clock show at an improv, and I do the improv Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. That's my four shows, and get it in like that. I'm in bed at 9 o'clock show at an improv, and I do the improv Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. That's my four shows, and get it in like that. I'm in bed at 9 o'clock. Show started at 7. That's right. I'm back at the hotel asleep, and I have my weekends off.
Starting point is 00:48:13 You want the show started at 7? No, no, no. You said the show started at 7. No, the comedy show. I've done it now. You want the show started at 5. When you said, I don't know why I thought of Egypt, but Deja Vu, she used to be Earthquake co-host on BLS.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Yeah. At one point. With the short haircut. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She DJ on Kelly and whatever. I don't know who's on there now. Kelly and Ryan, it should be. Ryan and Kelly.
Starting point is 00:48:36 I think Ryan left to do Wheel of Fortune. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, man. That was a great station. We won. Took down a number one station. And just doing good radio.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Morning show boot camp, learning about breaks and timing and all that stuff. I take radio serious, man. Show prep, air checks, you know, listening to yourself, playing it back. Like, I take it serious. And if you're not serious about it. That's a lost art. Yeah. That is a lost art.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Doing radio the proper way. Absolutely. Air checks, knowing when to go into breaks, teasing, looking at clocks. That is a lost art. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:49:11 you better hit that 53. You better be out there. You know about that 53. What do you love more, stand up or radio? Oh, God. Damn,
Starting point is 00:49:20 that's a good question. Radio, don't give you butterflies. Radio is just sitting here like right now. I'm comfortable. It's cool or whatever. Radio don't give you butterflies. Radio is just sitting here like right now. I'm comfortable. It's cool or whatever. Stand-up gives you a little bit of anxiety because you got to perform.
Starting point is 00:49:31 You got to go out there. People pay money to see you perform. But my stand-up has been great. I'm probably funnier than I've ever been. I got a special coming out. We in negotiation with Kevin Hart right now to release a comedy special. I love that for you. Oh, yeah. I haven to release a comedy special. I love that for you. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:46 I haven't done a comedy special in like 12 years. Wow. But it's funny as hell. It's probably my, Dave Talbert, he directed it. Him and his wife Lynn, they directed it. It looked good. It's going to be funny. It's going to be all over the place.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Recently shot stuff? Yeah, just recently shot it. Okay. Yeah. I paid for it myself and i just went on stage and killed their ass so i'm i'm really excited about that and what made you uh i mean kevin hart's kevin hart but a lot of people go to netflix too like how did you decide where you were gonna who was gonna house it well we're gonna we're gonna see we in negotiation now because
Starting point is 00:50:17 i just did an interview with kevin hart and uh he asked me about it i was like i just shot one i said you wanna you wanna uh? Okay, so you started shopping. Started that conversation. Yeah. Yeah, he's a good friend of mine. I absolutely love him. Great dude. Great dude.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Kevin, man. Jamie Foxx. All of them have been good to me my whole career. I didn't know Eddie Murphy was a fan. I met Eddie Murphy at his house or whatever. Went over there one day. I had a meeting with Tracy Edmonds. I think were dating at the time and she said Ed play your prank phone calls around I was like you lying are you serious and I ended up going over there and there's some comments over there and we had barbecue chicken collard greens
Starting point is 00:50:58 cornbread macaroni and cheese it was like we had some real soul food and that was my first time meeting Eddie Murphy, man. That was a pleasure. So that, when you get to do stuff like that, and I'm on tour with Martin Lawrence right now. So that's my big brother. The funny thing is you talk like you not one of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Like you in that conversation? I'm just humble, man. I'm still like, I kind of still feel like I'm kind of like just still young and in the game because I feel young and in the game. And I know I'm a little older and stuff and trying to coach younger comics. And I just kind of sit back and not try to do too much, but I just try to make sure when I do do something that is special
Starting point is 00:51:38 and that is awesome and that is funny. And my karaoke nights be sold out. My karaoke, I sell, my karaoke nights sell out faster than my comedy shows. My co-host has Down syndrome. And he- What? My co-host, Big Chris, has Down syndrome
Starting point is 00:51:56 and he is the funniest damn person. If you look at my- You can see them? Huh? You can see? No, I was sitting here trying not to laugh. I was gonna ask you, like, can we laugh at you? This guy's stupid.
Starting point is 00:52:07 It's okay. You can see it on the right hand of you, man. And look, all you have to do is look up Ricky Smiley and Big Chris, karaoke night. And that was, it was the- And he know all the songs. He get up there and he sing. You can't get him off stage.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I say, hey, Chris, you're not getting paid. You need to chill. He say, okay. You have to calm him down. I don't know how to. Where did that idea come about? Like, how did that idea happen? Ricky Smiley.
Starting point is 00:52:31 And Big Chris. You're so messy. Big Chris not even. What songs he be doing, man? What you made him sing? You ever did Nelly Cut Your Grandma? Nah, I'm going. You really going to hell?
Starting point is 00:52:46 I can't. You seen Big Chris? You seen Big Chris? Have you seen Big Chris? Go, go, go, look. Go. Go on, camera, go. I haven't seen him.
Starting point is 00:52:54 This is Big Chris. Yeah, I ain't never seen Big Chris. Chris doing his thing, man. Yeah, that's my call. You pay Big Chris, though. Huh? You better pay Big Chris. He only make down payments.
Starting point is 00:53:07 You really going down. Yeah. He is funny as hell. So he like to bring ladies on stage and sit them in a chair and play an R. Kelly song, and he serenade them like the Capos or something. Oh, I got to see that. R. Kelly and Down Syndrome. I got to see that. R. Kelly and Down Syndrome all on one stage.
Starting point is 00:53:27 You just got to watch the video. It wipes the audience out. I take them on the road with me. We do the improv in Fort Lauderdale and Dania Beach. Sell it out. He has a set? No. I bring him on stage in the middle of karaoke and I have to
Starting point is 00:53:43 set boundaries for him. And he love y'all. Oh, oh, he love y'all. He watch y'all all the time. He always, he got his phone. I bought him a phone. Salute to Chris, man. Yeah, he always showing me something that y'all,
Starting point is 00:53:54 hey, oh, he wants to come on. You should have brought him with you, man. Next time you come back. When I come back, I'm going to bring him. Don't bring him up here with him in here. No, I would, come on. No, no, no. When you come for the special, bring him up here.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so when my special come out, we'll come up here and promote in here. No, come on. No, no. When you come for the special, bring him up here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so when my special come out, we'll come up here and promote our brain. Please. That'll be my gift to your ass. See, we have the same kind of humor because we laugh at the same kind of shit. My goodness.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Chris took me to the cemetery. I think he had a cousin die. In this particular cemetery, you go there, you have to follow this red line. It's in Birmingham. We followed the red line. He was at the grave crying. And I looked up at the tombstone. It was Paul Bear Bryant, who was a former head coach at Alabama
Starting point is 00:54:32 back in the 70s. And I didn't tell him, see, you ain't shit. You fucked me up when you said he took you to the cemetery. Yeah, somebody had died. And we was at the wrong grade, but I just let him.
Starting point is 00:54:48 I didn't want to tell him that we was at Paul Bear Bryant grade. So I had to get him back to the car. I got him something to eat and took him home. Ricky Smiley, ladies and gentlemen. Grief is grief, man. He got it out.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Either way, Chris got it out either way either way Chris got it out pick up his book sideshow is out right now oh my god we appreciate you for joining us bro thank you man
Starting point is 00:55:11 don't be a stranger man you can come up here anytime you want to tell we don't play those radio politics so we want you to come look if y'all ever in Miami I have a boat
Starting point is 00:55:19 I'm a boat captain I go to the Bahamas every fucking weekend in the summer I dare you to take a weekend off and fuck with me. Say no more. I'm down for that. We broadcast on the boat. You ask anybody, ask Jeff Johnson,
Starting point is 00:55:31 ask David Talbert. I drive all the way across the ocean to Bimini, Bahamas. It's only 55 miles off the coast of Fort Lauderdale. And I drive my boat. We go all the way to the Bahamas. I have a house that I rent. You are more than welcome. If you just get to Fort Lauderdale, you don't have to worry about shit. I got all the way to the Bahamas. I have a house that I rent. You are more than welcome. If you just get the foil out of there, you don't have to worry about shit.
Starting point is 00:55:47 I got you. Big Chris, be there too. You set the boundaries on the boat. I'm going to fuck y'all up. Y'all ready? Don't. Don't. If Big Chris is sick, she might try to holler.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Wait till you see what I had him to do on the front of the boat. No, on the front of the boat. Not the Titanic. Not the Titanic. Hold on. I hope you ain't had him like a phantom emblem or something. Hold on. The Titanic.
Starting point is 00:56:07 You finna scream, bro. Let me, let me, let me. Don't show us no pictures you're not supposed to see. This is Instagram or TikTok. Uh-uh, TikTok. Let me see. Okay, here it comes. It's just slow because I don't, I couldn't get, figure out that Wi-Fi.
Starting point is 00:56:21 All right, here we go. Here we go. You finna scream when you see Chris. I don't have these. Alright, here we go. Here we go. You're gonna scream when you see Chris. Okay, here we go. Here we go. When I tell you, you're gonna fall dead when you see this video if I can get to it.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Where is it? It's gonna be a meme of Uncle on social media. Yeah, because he's been saying, here we go. Here we go. Here we go. You ready? Yeah, okay. Y'all ready? I'm watching, I'm watching, I'm watching.
Starting point is 00:56:49 You ready? We gotta put this in the video. Man, cut it out, man. I can't laugh at that. Cut it out, Ricky. I cannot laugh at that. Is somebody holding him? That is not funny, no!
Starting point is 00:57:06 Cut it out, man. I looked a bit Chris, though. You know what to think about the Phantom? What's that called, the Phantom what? The Rolls Royce, the emblem? He got like a Phantom emblem. It's the Spirit of Ecstasy. Man, you stupid, man.
Starting point is 00:57:24 It's not just Titanic. Oh, man. Man, you stupid, man. Spirit of Ecstasy. That's not Titanic. Don't put it in the video. Oh, my goodness. Oh, man. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Ricky Smiley. That is me. Bring Big Chris up here because she is single and she's looking. You single? You surprised, right?
Starting point is 00:57:36 Uh, yeah. Mm-hmm. How old are you? 32. Damn. Oh. That went over my head. You're 56 now. Uh, you're still standing. Big Chris back to Big Chris The baby
Starting point is 00:57:59 Was it the baby No the baby That didn't work out Work out It didn't go past the interview Where was it going Baby? No, I wouldn't. Marla Wayne? Marla Wayne? No, the baby. That's the baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That didn't work out. Work out? It didn't go past the interview. Where was it going? What?
Starting point is 00:58:12 Not you sit back down. Put your number on the phone. Ricky Smiley. Signed shirt. Signed shirt without writing down. And it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Early in the morning. The Breakfast Club.

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