The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Rob 49 & Skilla Baby On Linking Up, Label Influence, Giving Back To The Hood + More

Episode Date: June 11, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got Nyla with us today. We got some special guests in the building. We got Skillababy and Rob49.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Welcome, fellas. Yes, indeed. How y'all feeling? Vultures eat the most tall. Yeah. Yes. Explain that title, man. I like that title.
Starting point is 00:00:25 We eat the most, and I'm Vulture, so we just was playing one day on a song and said it. That's just what we went with. Boy, you so New Orleans. Ain't he? I can hear it in your voice. You can't even get away from me. And how'd y'all get together? You from Detroit, you from New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:00:40 How'd y'all link up to do this album together? We're on the same label, so a lot lot of people been trying to get me with Rob. He was in the industry and stuff before me. But then somehow we connected. I think we was doing Madden. I think we was doing something at Madden for Interscope. They was just had us doing a bunch of songs for the Madden soundtrack. And then we just hit off every time. Every time everybody keep booking us the same, putting us on the same song. We just got it popping like that for real.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Just made sense. I did see that you guys literally are headlining everything, even prior to doing your own tour together. But it's cool to see you guys do this. Are we going to get a combined project? Because obviously the records are ringing off. Yeah, for sure. Yeah? A tape?
Starting point is 00:01:27 Yeah. Of course we got like more than tape work for music. We always work every time we in the same city. So we got a lot of good music. No. There's just been time and like he'll drop his solo shit. I got to drop my solo shit. Like we just got to make it fit like for real.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Now you guys are definitely flooding. Even with the, I feel like it was two singles that dropped this Friday. The two rare joint and then you dropped one with a girl. Can't remember her name. Just a girl? I can't remember her name. So much for women's empowerment.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Oh my God. That's the hardest I've ever heard of. They don't even know what you dropped. We drop music all the time, you well know. Come on. The shit with him and Flo Miller? No, not with Flo, that's old. That's some new hard shit.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Playing. That just came out? He got some shit with him and Flo just dropped. Damn, you ain't know it was Flo Miller? No, it's not Flo Miller. That one a hit though, Whole package, him and Flo. Yes, yes, yes. Y'all gonna bump my brother's shit.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Nah, I love Flo. But I really like the joints you guys did with Too Rare 2. Yeah. Where y'all shot that music video? New York. In New York, for sure. Some ratchet clip. What club?
Starting point is 00:02:37 Ratchet, ratchet. Yeah, Major Dancer's. I ain't know what was going on. Oh, the Script Club? Yeah. Yeah, it's a very active music video, yeah. Definitely in Queens or the Bronx, one or the other. I think it was in Queens.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Queens, yeah, I'm sure it was in Queens. No, it was Ratchet. It's at Ratchet Club. That song was like Ratchet. You went to Ratchet? Yeah, for Johnson's Cabaret, that shit was Ratchet. Goddamn. Yo, you love Johnson's Cabaret.
Starting point is 00:03:02 What made y'all mesh, though? I mean, just because y'all rappers on the same label don't mean that y'all gonna have the same energy. Like, what was the connection? Probably like not looking for a connection. It wasn't even all that, bro. Nigga fuck with you, it's good. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:03:16 If we don't, we just not gonna do nothing together. I think it's just hard to find people like I've been said that people just want to see you genuinely win. Like, it's so competitive. Like, rapping a competitive sport, I don't feel like I gotta been said, that people just want to see you genuinely win. Like, it's so competitive, like, rapping a competitive sport. I don't feel like I got to compete with bro. Like, I don't feel like he feel like he got to compete with me.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Like, we know we winning. So it's like, we ain't trying to, like, when we get on a song, we jabbing at each other for sure. Like, he say some hard shit, I'm going to be like, man, I got to go. You feel me? I think it's more iron sharp than iron,
Starting point is 00:03:45 us trying to be competitors, you know? Just to clear my name, her name is Blake Ianna. Blake Ianna. Blake Ianna. Blake Ianna. All right, you did a music video on everything. Got me looking crazy because I didn't know the name. That's a poor woman.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Blake Ianna heard. Blake Ianna heard. She signed a 300. Oh, okay. She heard. I just went out like two days ago. That's a poor woman. Blakey on the heart. Blakey on the heart. She signed at 300. Oh, okay. She hurt. I was just with her like two days ago. St. Louis. Yeah, she hurt.
Starting point is 00:04:09 He was just with her two days ago and couldn't remember her? He dropped it, not me. He dropped it. My son. And you about to get me in trouble because I got in trouble. I ain't shot the song out at first. She was mad at me. Because y'all did this tour, people think you guys are a duo.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Now people feel like you guys are a package deal. You know what's funny? I've been hearing that a lot. I'm like, man, it's like at the same time, you can't be doing that, but then it's my nigga, so I don't really even care. Like, you feel what I'm saying? I feel like y'all have the most fun together.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Like, we just gonna go into the nigga at the time, but listen to it. That's what it got. You get 15 years in this shit anyway i feel like i be feeling like this i've told rob like man we gotta hurry up and drop the tape because everybody like they'll hear him first and then come get me on the song or hit me first have me do the song then go get him on the song and it should be like i'd be like they trying to burn us out before we even burn ourselves out. Was that on purpose with the two red joints?
Starting point is 00:05:06 You guys didn't all do that together, or he put that together? He put that together for sure. Have y'all made more money as a collective, though, than y'all did as individuals? I ain't going to lie. I think he got a lot of money. I got a lot of money. I don't really even know.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Did we even make money together? Man, what the fuck? Oh, God. know like yeah we do we even make money together man what the fuck well i feel like on tours and like and people putting us on songs yeah like that like i feel like we'd have made a lot of money together but dog make a lot of money too i see him on a lot of shows by yourself i'll be on a lot of shows by myself so like as long as we we are rich like we get on the ground and we sit here and think about it bro we ain't really making real money together like swear to god not yet not yet we're on our tour right now you know the first tour that you do you just go like your shows ain't too paid high like you come from getting 60 000 in the show to like you know what you're getting for your first
Starting point is 00:06:03 time right then there's after parties and things like that first time really making money together so like the like yeah make no money together another thing right let's talk about the emergence of detroit right detroit we've seen detroit rise crazy there's so many artists in detroit but at first not too many people were effing in the city how do y'all effing with the city how do y'all feel like y'all broke through that because Because now there's so many artists in Detroit. I think it's like... That's when people was fucking in the city, man. I said, effing with the city. Everybody sells business.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I said, effing with the city. No, I just feel like certain artists broke the barriers. I feel like, you know, first they was looking for, like, more commercial, you know, Eminem and Big Shine type stuff Eminem Big Shine type stuff and like more street artists came around like T Sada stuff like that Doug you feel me I feel like they were just moving around and making the right connections I'd be feeling like it just be perfect timing you know they say hard work meet time and then something else and then it just happened. Are Detroit artists starting to F with each other meaning making music with each other? Because I know one time it was so you on your side I'm on this side we on this
Starting point is 00:07:17 side we on that side but are they starting to make records together doing things together? Everybody been messing with each other behind closed doors it just be like certain people be feeling like they can't be seen around certain people and stuff like that you know that'd be people like politics type stuff that happened in every city our city is more realistic on the like the real street side so it'd be like a lot of street stuff going on, blood, shit. So it'd be like stuff you can't come back from. So, you know, certain people mess with certain people, they got to stay over there.
Starting point is 00:07:52 You feel like you ever got to clean it up a little bit, Skill? Because I saw you say one time that the music industry is heavily popularity-based, but it seems like the more artists become popular, then they start to do more of the commercial sounding music or they compromise their authenticity a little bit. It's basically like when I was more independent, and I wasn't on the label, I could do whatever I want. Now I got to do a sale.
Starting point is 00:08:18 So I got to go lean more towards the girls because this was selling. This was going to bring in plaques. I can't just put out because you don't you don't sell on the label you get a drop your money you ain't get no more money so it's like I wanted I want to be for the streets I want to wrap my life I want to view me but this is what sales it's not about what you want to do is not what Rob want to put out it's not what is what the people want Rob to put out. He got to do that. He can't put out what he,
Starting point is 00:08:49 I'm pretty sure he got some songs where he want to say after world and everything, but he can't do that because he know what's ill. Rob know what's ill for him. He know what bring it blank. Do you enjoy the records like Bay and Mama? Not for real. That ain't even my type of music.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Nah, I'm going to keep it short. That's crazy. When we first made Mama, like Mama was hard when we first made it because we wasn't looking for no girl song. We were just popping it. I'm going to tell you what was crazy about Mama. I did that to make fun of him the whole day look boom we had to be T awards so we call Rob I'm talking on the phone I'm like say bit so I'm trying to talk like him
Starting point is 00:09:39 and stuff boom the whole day we just get to doing that. We like, Rob, I pull up to the studio. We do Mama. I keep saying, all right, and shit like that, because that's what he be doing. And then I didn't even, you feel me? I'm like, this is just, you feel me? They like, this is hard, you feel me? No, thanks, Dad. We just ran.
Starting point is 00:09:58 You didn't even expect that. Y'all was just playing and shit. Everybody else knew it was a hit before us, though. Nah, that's a fact. When they pulled it up, I laid to my brother like, this is a hit before us though nah that's fine when they pulled it up i laid my brother like this a hit i'm like damn i wasn't like we wouldn't have no plans on putting in it out they knew it was a hit that's great i didn't even know people still had to do that in the music industry like i really thought y'all could make what kind of music y'all want and put
Starting point is 00:10:18 it out like i didn't know y'all still had to make those kind of records just to appease the labels? You gotta know what, like analytics. We young, but we read our analytics. We know what's going for us. We know what sales, what city we sell the most. I'm big on that. I'm trying to take it to the moon. So that's what we talking about. We ain't really talking about no extra curriculars
Starting point is 00:10:42 or nobody else got going on. We talk about what's going to work for us. So that's what worked for us. It ain't really our fault. Maybe the street names need to stream the music more. But the girl's song's gone. The commercial song's gone. And then that's what the label's pushing. I can't even name my song Certain Shit without them telling me I can't put it out.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Well, you had a top ten record. That's the reason why. Top five record. Yeah. What's the last title you had to change? Last title? I think I called something Jeffrey Dahmer or something. Oh, hell no.
Starting point is 00:11:16 What song that was? OK Bet. Damn, it went from Jeffrey Dahmer to OK Bet. That's a big drop. OK Bet, I'm going to eat your ass. Don't worry about it. I'm going to catch you. I'm going to catch you.
Starting point is 00:11:33 That's funny. How do y'all, because y'all both are big individually, but being on a tour together, how do y'all figure out who's going to close the show? It don't matter. It don't matter. I ain't going to lie. Boy, that's what I used to tell you before the show's gonna close the show? I matter. It don't matter. It don't matter. I ain't gonna lie, boy, that's the last you tell me
Starting point is 00:11:47 before the show, you want clothes? Yeah, y'all sweet, y'all. But that go back to analytics. I know in the South, he bigger than me in the South. I'm not gonna even run up on him in the South and be like, all right, I wanna go last. No, I'm not gonna do that. Me, I really don't care.
Starting point is 00:12:02 I enjoy going first and then watching his show so I don't really have to do that that's how I feel too I ain't gonna lie I like watching the nigga perform that's what's up that's dope
Starting point is 00:12:12 that you can take the ego and pride out of it cause most artists probably wouldn't wanna do that they be like nah this is what it is but you
Starting point is 00:12:17 the fact that you analyze the algorithms and see where what city is hotter than this than the other that makes more sense that's cause they're searching for a hit
Starting point is 00:12:24 like man I gotta be the one with the hit like both of us got shit going algorithms to see what city is hotter than this, that makes more sense. That's because they're searching for a hit. Like, man, I gotta be the one with the hit. Both of us got shit going, you know what I'm saying? And then it's more like, I be feeling like, we ain't, like, he got some of the biggest songs in the world, but when it come to our following, it's more cult following. It ain't, they messing with us off one song.
Starting point is 00:12:45 We got five, at least five or six songs that I know everybody in the crowd gonna know, so I don't really be tripping. They be there for my set, they be there for his set. No matter the time we going on, they outside waiting to get in line. It's our tour. We both headlining. I don't really be caring about none of that real long because I get my check at the end of that for real.
Starting point is 00:13:06 When y'all decided y'all wanted to take rap serious, cause I think I read somewhere Rob, that you went into the National Guard and you was gonna go into the nursing school. What made you not wanna do that in rap? I was just failing bro. Just simple as that. Just failing and I'm like man,
Starting point is 00:13:22 I can't be one of these niggas out there going back to the project and sitting on the block all day man, I can't be one of these niggas out there going back to the project, and sitting on the block all day again. I can't do that. My partner had a studio, and my brother was rapping. I went in there and wrote a rap one day. He like, man, this is crazy. I was the one really like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:13:39 He like, man, we're going to just keep running with you. And that was that. Damn. As soon as I dropped dropped I was just hot. Taking rap series, I think I used to, I used to be running around with Sada Baby a lot. That's like my big brother. I seen him making all the money off this
Starting point is 00:13:56 and I'm like, I could do that too. I was already rapping, like everybody in Detroit rap but you don't see people be successful at it. A lot of people, like y'all said, start being successful at it at once, like one time. And then for the longest they had Detroit as a certain sound, now it's like everybody got different sounds. So I think that's connected with other artists seeing what works
Starting point is 00:14:23 and doing all that type of stuff. And people develop their own sound. But for the longest, people didn't rock with us because they felt like we rapped fast and the beats were just too gritty. And we're talking about a whole bunch of foolishness. But, you know, everybody making songs now. You got these and people like Babyface Ray, they sound totally different, but they mesh good together.
Starting point is 00:14:45 It's all type of people in the city. So that just made me want to go harder just seeing other people. Why nursing school, Rob? The same, my same partner that was rapping, I remember we was in a hood one day. He like, man, I'm going to go to school for two years. I'm like, man, I got to go to school for four years. Why you got to go to school for two?
Starting point is 00:15:04 I'm going to be a nurse. I'm like, man, I'm going to school for four years. Why you gotta go to school for two? I'ma be a nurse. I'm like, man, I'ma do it. He's like, man, you can't do it. So when I wind up going to college, finally, they're like, what's your major? When they ask me what's my major, that's when I pick my major. And I'm just like, nursing. Rob's like, I only wanna go for two years.
Starting point is 00:15:19 For two years, makes sense. You ain't never thought of trade school? Nah. Nah, I ain't never wanna of trade school no no i ain't never want to be one of them type oh you're an old school guy for real man where's that you say old school but you always gonna need an electrician you're always gonna need a plumber you're always gonna need a mechanic i had too much sauce like in high school like i was one of the latest young ones in my city since eighth grade. I couldn't go be an electrician or a plumber, bro.
Starting point is 00:15:49 I just got too much. A job is a job, though. But I'm just telling you. They ain't going to call them for no electric. You know what I'm saying? They're going to be like, man, Rob was an electrician. Man, dude, tripping. That's fire.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Be a lit electrician? That could be the name of it. Litty electricity. All the women be acting like they got electric problems and all that to get you up over there. Last time I wanted to live some shit like that. Some little funny shit, but nah. Did you know Jack Harlow was going to shout you out in the song, Loving On Me? I didn't know he was going to shout me out, but I seen it.
Starting point is 00:16:24 They sent it to me. His team sent it to me or something okay like by Jack Harlow I know Jack Harlow like even knowing like that he's just trying to get Detroit stripes do that like we know each other though okay jack harlow blew up he was hanging with cider like it was like on jack harlow first tour it was him seti and somebody else big and then they was like the the openers and jack harlow used to be coming through detroit like hanging like he was cool with cider and stuff and we ended up being cool and stuff but I ain't never like, we wasn't exchanging numbers or nothing so we knew who each other was and then we started texting before he put the song out
Starting point is 00:17:12 and stuff but me and Jack Harlow, we don't really talk about music stuff, we talk about life stuff, like we be on that type of wave. But that was a crazy oop, like I appreciate it. Yeah. It's a big record. that was crazy time in general you had three records moving at one at one time yeah and one that wasn't yours yeah Rob did you smash one of the loyalties girls damn the reason why I
Starting point is 00:17:38 asked that is because I seen him in a video he was he said he wanted you to mention it he waiting for you to mention in a song Yeah, y'all didn't put it out there like that. Y'all didn't play too much. Y'all didn't play too much, girl. Don't do that. So is he being serious? Yeah. No, not at all. Oh, oh. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:11 He can't be serious. I mean, I assumed it wasn't current or recent. He that man alone. The man said he got a girl. He's moonwalking. Leave him alone. So there's no need for me to ask you about these midgets. I heard you got a thing for midgets, too.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Little people, man. Little people. He got a thing for midgets, bro Little people, man. Little people. He got a thing for midgets, bro. Damn, he straight passed up the skillet. You was holding the little midget in the video. That's just what they wanted to put a picture of me out there, you know what I'm saying? He held the midget too, bro.
Starting point is 00:18:39 They call little people, man. Listen, you taller. They wanted more talk about you. You know what I'm saying? I'm holding the midget like a baby. He holding the midget upside down. man you taller they wanted more talk about it I'm holding the midget like a baby he holding the midget upside down so I don't know part of that played a part in it you know what I'm saying damn you hold the midget upside down I ain't against midgets
Starting point is 00:18:57 I ain't against midgets though I like midgets they pay for tickets too they buy them Lord have mercy no midgets slander we cool I don't cool with the midgets. I like midgets. They pay for tickets too, they buy albums. Lord have mercy. For sure. Yo, no midgets slander, we cool. I'm cool with the midgets. Well, can we expect any midgets at Vulture Fest this year? I know you have your annual.
Starting point is 00:19:15 I ain't gonna lie, I wouldn't call him a midget, he's my real dog, but he like a midget like. Like he really that, Like, he took guns. He in the hood. How tall is he? You imagine, like, you feel what I'm saying? But he going to be that as my dog. Ooh, what's his name?
Starting point is 00:19:33 His name Deuce, man. He out the project. OK, OK. What do you get this? I give you a big alley, Deuce. We got to make that up. You know what I'm saying? He going to be performing?
Starting point is 00:19:42 No, no, no, no. No? He might be on stage. Or basketball. Deuce is a thug. Yeah, Deuce is a thug. Oh, no, no, no. No? He might be on stage. Or basketball. Deuces and thugs. Yeah, Deuces and thugs. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, he funny.
Starting point is 00:19:49 He out you. Well, talk about the festival just for those who aren't familiar about what you do. I've been doing a festival in my city, like Vulture Island Festival, for three years now.
Starting point is 00:20:01 The last two years it sold out. So I just wanted to go big this year and I put it in an arena in my city. At first I said the last few years it sold out. So I just wanted to go big this year and I put it in the arena in my city. At first I set the max tickets to like 6,000 cause like, you know, people be scared of that type stuff. Then the 6,000 sold out, I set it to 9,000,
Starting point is 00:20:18 9,000 sold out, set it to 12,000, 12,000 sold out. So I just left it at 12,000. Congratulations though, that's big. Y'all hustling, y'all ain't playing. This Saturday, matter of fact. This Saturday, he gonna be there, turn up. Skilly, I heard you wanted to do a song with Adele. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:35 What about Adele, like why Adele? I just like, that's the type of music I be listening to for real, for real. I just, that'd be like a dream come true. Like people like Ed Sheeran, Adele, that type of stuff. Yeah. Keep my mind right.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Like when I be riding in a car, I be doing me. Ed listens to a lot of hip hop, so he gonna see this. Yeah, like that's what I be on. Like I ain't gonna lie. You might get that feature, bro. I'm trying to figure out
Starting point is 00:21:01 what the hell that sound like. You trying to do crossover records? Yeah, I be on that on my own time. I be doing my own little stuff like Afrobeat stuff, stuff like that. I just be trying stuff in the studio for real. But you, cause you a real artist, clearly. Yeah, I be trying stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:17 So that's just like my type of music. When I was saying like, I don't even listen to them songs that y'all like, like or people like. I be listening to Anita Baker going home at night yes that's what I'm talking about that's right who put you on that your parent yeah my parents he also be listening to Miley Cyrus go ahead what if he want us to know that yet like okay I'll be on the Miley's big Miley I listen to everything, though.
Starting point is 00:21:45 What's your guilty pleasure right now? Like, as far as music? Yeah. Ooh, what's on my side? I got some Spanish shit on my side. You know what they be saying? Nope. Nah.
Starting point is 00:22:02 It's just silent. I know what you're talking about. It's called Peppers. Peppers. That's old though, man. Yeah, that's a little better. No shit. And we know what they saying then.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Yo. I'm not Latino, but that's like two years old. That's like a year old. I like this. I like this. That means he been to a crossover club and he seen how people react to it. Yeah. Oh yeah, I know this part. That is good. That means he been to a crossover club. He seen how people react to it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Oh, yeah. I know this song. OK. Boom. Boom. Go to the club with one white girl. Spanish. Puerto Rican in New York.
Starting point is 00:22:35 That's it. Yeah. That will happen, sir. You been uptown. You been going uptown. You been to. That's what that is. That's what that is.
Starting point is 00:22:40 That will happen. That will happen. Puerto Rican, Dominican in New York, huh? Spanish music. Nope. Dang it. But that's on fire, though. Nah, York, huh? Spanish music. No comment. That's on fire, though.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Nah, it's hard. It is, it is. Spanish music. Wish your guilty pleasure. You know that song? Mamadala, mamadala, mamadala, mamadala. Oh, yeah. I love that song, bro. I swear to God.
Starting point is 00:22:56 It's just one Dominican rapper called Rochi. He hard. Y'all got to be getting a tone with him. Rochi? His name Rochi. Rochi. Rochi. He hard.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I ain't going to lie to you. Get a little choke His name Roachie. Roachie. He hard. I ain't gonna lie to you. Get a little choke. Get a little choke. Get a little choke. You know what he's saying to him? Nah, he don't. He's saying I'm trying to crash or something.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Something like that. Something freaky for sure. Something freaky for sure. Now Rob, is it true that you drove yourself to the hospital after you got shot? Nah, thanks.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Like what happened? If you don't mind talking about it. I don't even want that we got so much up ski going on i don't want to talk about those down skis yeah yeah well i'm glad you're still here hell yeah thanks to him i'm glad you're still here now you say skillet when you be on stage you'll be trying to channel your inner michael jackson yeah what's that mean i just just feel like Michael Jackson and Chris Brown are the greatest entertainers ever. So whatever they do, I can't dance. I was just ready. You can't get by some more.
Starting point is 00:23:52 I can't dance, but whatever I can do like them to make the crowd interact with me or be on that same level, I take my performance serious. I'm like a take risks and prosper. I might go climb. I'm scared of heights, water, and everything. I might jump in a pool if it's there.
Starting point is 00:24:12 He said, I'm scared of heights and water. How do you know you can't dance? Have you ever tried it? Maybe you got some training? Yeah, I tried it. But it just don't feel right. I don't know. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Like, what kind of dancing did you try? I tried the Chris Brown dance. Like, what's that, crumping, what they call it? I tried crumping, all that type of shit. Kung fu, all that type of shit. I can't do it. Like, you went to somebody to teach you how to do it? No, all my sister dances. I just be watching videos.
Starting point is 00:24:41 I did it at one of my shows. They went crazy, though, but I'm looking at the video, I'm like, oh, I look weak. Damn. And you feel like you've shifted the culture, I've seen you say. I feel like me and Rob just made people focus on, I think for the longest, hip hop was based off hate.
Starting point is 00:25:03 I feel like we bringing more love to it. I think we shifting the longest hip-hop was based off hate I feel like we bring more love to it Mm-hmm, you know, I think we shift the culture in that way. You see more people rapping about Being females up buying stuff for doing stuff like that I feel like even though we hip-hop artists and it's more hardcore I feel like we bring more love in our own way Like music was so based off ops and shooting people and doing all this stuff i feel like on the radio see a lot of more fun music now and i can see that because you know it feel like um hearing y'all talk is refreshing because it's like y'all actually taking the music serious and y'all
Starting point is 00:25:38 want to get the most out the music game like y'all want to do records for the ladies you want to do songs with adele you're doing festivals like like if you go if you want to do records for the ladies. You want to do songs with Adele. You're doing festivals. If you want to get the opportunity to do it, do it. Do it big. It's really like you just want to make money. And you realize these girls is the ones spending the money. Dudes ain't spending no money. They don't have money. Just like you said when you asked me that I want to go work.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I didn't want to go work. Girls going to get jobs. And they spending it. You know what I'm saying? And they just not having money out there. Damn. We down bad. The broke man's about to listen.
Starting point is 00:26:09 We down bad. They can't buy a ticket. You know what I'm saying? They going to know your shit up and down. You can't free. And then it's just like the guys, a lot of guys just too cool to come see Rob and skill it down. They want to, if that girl like you, they don't like you.
Starting point is 00:26:25 It's just, I don't know why, how it happens like that. If that girl like you, they don't like you, especially at our level, they feel like we can reach them. Like, you know, they don't feel like that girl can reach Chris Brown. We like, they feel like we might just DM them back or something. So it'd be like. That's why you got to learn to dance. That's why you got gotta learn to dance i don't know what be going on with them i'd be in my own world though i don't be wanting nobody
Starting point is 00:26:54 girl i just you know i like making music and being blessed like i'm a granddaddy for real rob how the ogs embraced you in your city like Like the Waynes and the Birdmans, folks like that. They embraced me big. When I first, before I even got known, I had 10,000 followers, I was the big one in my city. And so, been. Like I told you, I been him before. My daddy was him, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:27:23 They've been embraced me. Birdman was the first person to try to sign me, matter of fact. Why you know what I'm saying? They've been embraced me. Birdman was the first person to try and sign me, matter of fact. Why didn't you do that one? None, I was, at the time we was getting evicted, and Birdman, he'll hit you, and then two months later, I couldn't do that, because we was on the U-Haul, you feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:27:39 Yeah. So I just took the first check, came, I really ain't care. So you needed that to get out, so you would've preferred to do that possibly, but it was just. For sure. Oh, so that was a dream, signing to something like that? Yeah, for sure, Birdman.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Birdman, I wanted to sign to Birdman. But if I signed to Birdman, and when I was moving back to the trenches, I'm like, Birdman probably don't even come back and get me because probably something's gonna happen by the time he come back, you know what I'm saying? So I just had to go with it. Y'all got something coming out this Friday.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Oh yeah, turned up off that drink, the song I'm dropping. Okay. Yeah. Fire. Featuring. Fire. Fire, okay. I seen the video too.
Starting point is 00:28:23 That's crazy. Well, y'all shooted it? I shot the video too. That's crazy. We all shoot it. Um, I shot in Miami Lit What a success look like for y'all too? Like when y'all put out music, when y'all put out videos, like what does success look like? When you put out this song on Friday, what does success look like?
Starting point is 00:28:54 You know what's funny? Before, like I was thinking, I'm like, man, I just want to drop music. Like, because I had, it was a time where I had Drop Vulture. I ain't dropped nothing until I dropped my mom. A homebody and stuff. Everything is successful to me.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Long as I get my idea off, I'm cool with it. Money keep rolling in, taking care of my family. That's all I care about for real. Because when we was, they ain't had nothing, what was my goal? You know what I'm saying? You gotta keep your goal the same. That's how I've been thinking lately.
Starting point is 00:29:25 What about you, Skill? Like, success for music or success life? Both. I mean, if you look at them going hand in hand. If I looked at success for music, cause I think it's like, they try to, you can forge numbers now, like, do stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I like, I think success is when I go out to a crowd and they saying your word for word that's success to me like real life I feel like we run away from reality and just run towards false reality we look at numbers people um faking streams and doing all this type of stuff I look at real street stuff going on like no know like i'd rather me i'd rather sell cds out the trunk again i'd rather go back to that era because yeah it's like who really like outside like who that who people really like you know i mean i think he had the most streams and whenever when me and rob walk in the club, they screamin' our name, but he got 80 billion streams. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:30:28 So it's like, I think real love and admiration, that's what I think success and then for life success, I just like, like he said, I just want everybody around me happy, taken care of. That's cool for me. Now see, you keep your family around you, keep your family very cool. Oh, for me. Like that. You keep your family around. You keep your family very cool. For sure.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Everybody got a job in your operation. Yeah, my sister did kill my money, my child, my aunt's bookings. My brother coming everywhere with me. My daddy got everything. Everything. My family. I don't really be trusting people. That's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:31:03 That's the way to do it. That's good. What about you, Skilla? I mean, my family, I don't really be chasing people. That's beautiful. That's the way to do it. That's good. What about you, Skilla? I mean, my family, I just keep them out the way. I be having so much going on, you feel me? I make sure all my business straight. I got accountants all that, I'm hands on,
Starting point is 00:31:17 I got assistant, my manager stay with me, that's just what it is for me. My family, I got like, just immediate family, my mom and my sister sister and then like I just put them up I just I don't want them to be around music like it's not I don't see you a strong one like I just can't have them around it so so many people be trying to pull so many plays and stuff like that and I know how many arrived is like he like me like he a crash about this like his and then I'll be outside a lot Rob would go to the studio and take
Starting point is 00:31:57 care of his business me I'm going to clubs and stuff like that Rob he got his support system with him. They go to the studio and go handle their business. Me, I'm a little bit more like, it's newer to me. I'm fresher. So it's be like, I'm still doing stuff that I ain't never did, like, you know? I was in Starless til five o'clock last night. It's just what I be on.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Can't have my mama and my sisters around, that type of stuff. It's just too dangerous. Nigga might not like me because of a girl. Rappers around envious, like I don't be on that. I don't even hang with nobody if it ain't G Herbo or like I don't really be on that. How old are you?
Starting point is 00:32:36 25. And you? 25. 25, okay, same age, okay. You said you tried to keep your family away, right? Yeah, like I was, I had like different managers and shit. Like, but there was a point I had no manager and then my mom had just stepped in.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Like, I was like, man, that's just what it is. Like, it's to a point I used to tell my mom, private your page, like, I don't want nobody seeing you or nothing. That's how I got that one picture. Cause you got so much smoke, that's how you can see here. You got a picture of me, bro.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Baby having so much smoke, like, I don't want nobody knowing nothing about me. Like I just told you, go over there, don't get in the camera. Cause that's just how it be, you know what I'm saying? That's good, that's the way to protect your family too. Yeah, cause people target what you love. They can't really get at us, like, feel me? Like we got security around,
Starting point is 00:33:21 we got all types of stuff going on. There's 50 niggas around. They can't really get at us, so somebody will target what you love. That's why I don't even post my mama or nothing. You don't even do that because it's just a certain way you got to move. People be weirdos, stalkers, all types of stuff. People just like to bother you for no reason. And then where I'm from, like,
Starting point is 00:33:47 well, I don't really be too like, you know, I'd be trying to stay away from that cause I know where my mind gonna go and I'm gonna take it. So I just, I'd be off it. I'd be trying to push peace. So I stay away from all that, stay in my own world. And it's all rooted in jealousy and envy. Girls, that's what it is, girls. stay in my own world. And it's all rooted in jealousy and envy. Mm-hmm. That's literally all. Girls.
Starting point is 00:34:06 That's what it is, girls. Mm-hmm. Every problem in this world, with a dude and another dude, started from a girl. Mm-hmm. I swear to God. That's why you so faithful to your one?
Starting point is 00:34:18 Exactly. What made you want to go public with your relationship? Huh? I said, what made you want to go public with your relationship? I don I said, what made you want to go public with your relationship? I don't need anything. I really want to go public. Like, I done posted, and then I'm like, like, I thought about what we're talking about right now.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I'm like, man, I can't handle it. Like, because I don't want her to be feeling like, nah, she an outside girl. She won't be like, I ran jail. Hell nah. Yeah. Because I'll stop. It's not even, it's not like nothing wrong with them. Like, but it's just like. Yeah, yeah. I like a homebody. Like, I don't know. I I'll stop. It's not like nothing wrong with them, but it's just like, I like a homebody.
Starting point is 00:34:47 I don't know, I just said that. Oh my God. It's your truth, man, you all right. Nah, but, nah, cause I got a son called Homebody, he gonna get on my ass. Oh man. Damn, you cheated on him. I don't know why I have it like that.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Nah, but I just like the girl I fell in love with when I was 19. Like, I don't want her to turn into nothing different. That's real. That's real. And Skilla, I know you got a new single dropping, Wifey. Talk to me about that. Any inspirations for the record you want to get into?
Starting point is 00:35:18 You got Wifey, yo? I was just really awesome in the studio trying to make another girl song. Boom. I was trying my hardest. No cap was in there. I think Sean Kingston told him to get on the song. He got on the song and then it was cool. I would just be trying to do what worked for real for me. That's all this is for me, a means to the end. I'm trying to get some more money so I can get some more property. When I'm 30, 35, I'm going to be done rapping. I'm trying to get some more money so I can get some more property. So I don't be like when I'm 30, 35, I'm going to be done rapping.
Starting point is 00:35:46 I'm going to disappear. I'm going to go buy an island or something. I ain't trying to rap till I'm 50. I'm cool. You got a girlfriend now? I be like, I'm starless last night. You got a bunch of girlfriends. I knew she coming right back with them.
Starting point is 00:36:02 She just ignored initial questions so she can ask that next question. Sean Kingston produced Wifey? No, he ain't produce it, but he was in there. OK. Was he comfortable? Did he look like he looked in that picture the other day with the white t-shirt? He had on the back.
Starting point is 00:36:14 I don't know what picture you talking about. Oh, boy. Let me pull it up for you. Oh, my goodness. Don't do that. I don't want to see it, bro. I don't want to see it. No, yo.
Starting point is 00:36:21 I don't know what picture you talking about. Sean Kingston was on the balcony wearing some tighty-whities. That's what he's talking about. I ain't say all that. I ain't say nothing about no damn tighty-whities. What picture was you going to show him? He looked comfortable. He did.
Starting point is 00:36:32 He was in the privacy of his home, but you know how that be. Don't let them trust you. That's the baby, man. Sean Kingston a big one. He won't see the picture. Sean Kingston. I don't really be on the internet.
Starting point is 00:36:42 I be deleting my page all the time. All right, all right, all right. My label be mad at me. Being that y'all come from the trenches, do y'all still feel like pressure to be a part of the streets in y'all respective cities? I ain't gonna lie, man. I was just thinking about this. I was talking to my brother.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I'm like, man, you know, you got your own stuff going on in your city. And I was talking to my brother, I'm like, man, like you know, you got your own stuff going on in your city, like, and I was just like, man, I'm so tired of having to deal with that, you know what I'm saying? Like, as much as you like, man, I got, you see what I'm saying? It's to a point, brother, I got some money, I'm happy, like, I just don't even wanna deal with broke people,
Starting point is 00:37:24 broke niggas that just hating on a nigga. I think I'm just over that. Even going back to the hood, I go back to the hood every now and then, but I'm low-key like I don't really want to do it. I want to bring them with me. Show them something else. They do more than I go back there.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Yeah. You want to show them something different. Exactly. What's the point of keep going back to the hood? Yeah. It's just pointless. What about you, Skillz? Man, I told you Rob way more mature than me.
Starting point is 00:37:53 I feel every time I go to the city. Still the same, man. I'm out here. I'm out this bitch. You can't even ask. It just be like where I'm from. The streets is just a big part of our culture. You feel me? we don't got
Starting point is 00:38:06 successful people like bird man and stuff to look up to and to stay like Yeah, they can sign us ain't doing that where we from like they looking up to skillet, baby Like they doing that like so I can't not go back because it's like it's just be like survivors remorse like It'd be a bunch of kids I just gotta touch. Sometimes I go to the schools and just let them touch me. Like I just go to the schools. I did it already, I did that. When I did Vulture Island, I went back to the hood
Starting point is 00:38:35 a year straight. What you have right now is just like, I'm like a year ahead of it, a year and a half ahead of it. So much done happened to where I'm like, man, you ain't going to be here to go touch them kids. That's just really what it is. You got to think like this. I've been shot, too.
Starting point is 00:38:54 I got shot at right after that at the casino. I be going through the same stuff. It just be like, with these kids in Detroit, y'all got some traitorous shit going on. I'm not saying we the murder cap. We was the murder cap for a minute, too. It's like these kids, like, they the same kids everywhere in the world in the trenches. But it just be like, for me, it's different because, like, I be feeling like I got to do it. Like, I be feeling like it's my job.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Like, you know, I be feeling like I just feel like, and I know it's not. Like, my mama be on my ass about this. Like, you don't got to do it. But I be feeling like, I just feel like, and I know it's not. Like, I get, my mama be on my ass about this. Like, you don't got to do it. But I be feeling like I got to do it. Like, you know, and it's just different. And the minute I'm going to start booking y'all to come touch the kids, like, you feel me? Like, that's just what I want for them because they going through it so much.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Like, I went through it. You went through it. So it be like us going through that. I don't be won't if I could say one child, bro I just do it like I just do it We're just like you say like, you know You trying to retire when you 35 and you making this money to buy properties You can start foundations and like rec centers and stuff like that Like you know caps for kids and shit to get a lot of them off the street
Starting point is 00:40:05 because you real passionate about it, passionate about it, seem to be. So, like, you can still change that and still not have to be in the street, you know, so connected. Even though it is a part of who you are, you know, elevate that and show them kids that too because that'll make them want to get out the same.
Starting point is 00:40:23 And y'all know what the kids need because y'all come from it. Y'all know what the kids need probably more than the elected officials there y'all know exactly what them kids need to better themselves but that's why i was telling y'all he more mature than me like that's just maturity it's gonna come down like my maturity level like i i'm mature i got my life together but i still fall in the same trap of doing the same stuff. Like, I don't know why. It's just, it's like a, whatever, like the little hole, the little black hole, like I just, I fall into it.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Like people know, like in Detroit, a mother, like they know what to do to click you back out, you know? So it'd be like, it'd be like that. It's a beautiful city though. Detroit's a beautiful city. It's so many different artists. Yeah. So you gave away 600 bikes to the hood? I gave 20,000 to four girls for
Starting point is 00:41:18 their law school too. They'd just be like I'd be doing that type of stuff They just be like... You got 50,000 of them guns, you bought bad guns off the street. You got like 200... I be doing that type of stuff, but... 280 some guns off the street. 280 guns off the street? Yeah, I be doing that type of stuff, and that still don't mean nothing to me.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Them kids, I just be wanting to touch them. I swear to God. I understand. Swear to God. Them kids at them schools and shit. I remember like, just like this. You want to be the adult that you needed as a kid. Yeah, just like, I just know like,
Starting point is 00:41:51 if Rob 49 or Skilla came to my school, I might've came every day just to see if Rob 49 was coming at one day, you know? Just that chance, like, all right, Rob might come one day of the year. I'ma come every day because i i might miss that day rob come to my feel me so so you locked in with elected officials in your city and stuff for sure that's the only way i get stuff done they just gave me like hometown hero
Starting point is 00:42:17 award or something like that like the city council and stuff like that's fire but we big on like i give back but i don't be saying I give back. Like, I ain't one of them. I ain't doing it for the camera. I'm doing it to make, like I said, I want to touch the kids. I want to build my community up. Like, nobody know I did a gun buyback.
Starting point is 00:42:35 My label was trying to push it. I don't want to push it, though. That ain't my narrative. I ain't trying to do that. Yeah, I was going to ask about it because I saw it, and then I don't see it anymore. It's nowhere to be found on your page. Because I don't be doing it.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I only posted it. I told them don't even put me on a flyer. I ain't even go to the gun by that because I don't want to be a distraction from the cause. Right. I don't want to be in the city and everybody want to take a thousand pictures. I want y'all to get y'all record expunged
Starting point is 00:43:01 and get y'all guns off the street. It ain't a skillet baby meet and greet. Yeah. That's dope. That's dope. That's smart. Yeah, for sure. Them to be talking about he ain't mature, he's real mature.
Starting point is 00:43:13 I wanna do shit like that. No, but like maturity, I'm just talking about like, you disciplined enough, I watch you, I watch everybody. You disciplined enough to be like, no, I ain't going to the club, man, name that's dangerous I'm going to do what work for me and pay my bills and keep my mama safe I'm going to the club doing retarded stuff and
Starting point is 00:43:34 feeling and that's what I'm saying maturity you know you know like you disciplined enough to be like I'm going to the studio I know what work I know what work for me this is my job you'll get there though you already know the life is about me is the perfect balance of life is being ratchet and righteous even even this like this I ain't even say no names and nothing like this I'm telling like me and Rob talk a lot I'm like I did this this and that and he like no don, don't do that cause you gonna mess up the record. You ain't even gonna get this opportunity.
Starting point is 00:44:09 You feel me? And the stuff I know he can do, he ain't do it. But I'm still doing it. It really messed up my record, like a big record. So it's like, you know, stuff like that. You might more shorter than me. Oh, you had a big record you was supposed to do and the artist didn't want to do it? Cause it's- There's stuff going on. You want more shorter. Oh, you had a big record you was supposed to do and the artist didn't want to do it?
Starting point is 00:44:25 There's stuff going on. In Detroit? No. Not just in the world. Oh, in the world. Don't do that. I know why he did it. Don't let nobody veer y'all off y'all path, man.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Y'all are two very focused brothers. Don't let nobody trick y'all off the street. Y'all just keep doing what y'all doing. Keep God first. Stay humble. Keep working. Keep your family close. Y'all going to be all right. I doing. Keep God first. Stay humble. Keep working. Keep your family close. Y'all going to be all right.
Starting point is 00:44:47 I appreciate you, man. Appreciate you. There you have it. Skillet, baby. It's Rob 49. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up in the morning.
Starting point is 00:44:55 The Breakfast Club.

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