The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Rob Lowe Speaks On Sex Symbol Status, Wild NBA Stories, Fatherhood, Unstable Season 2 More

Episode Date: July 26, 2024

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get the movie. I didn't get the movie, so this is the movie i didn't get the movie so this is it did you try for the movie yeah i tried out for it and they were like no because back then it was like a whole crew y'all it was probably like eight or nine of y'all that was in everything and and john hughes never put me in anything damn john hughes movie never i never thought about that yeah when you think 80s you think you and like molly ringwald never did it took to the 90s for me to, I finally worked with Molly. We did Stephen King's The Stand together. But in the 80s, no, none of that. Man, Rob, you were famous at a time when fame actually meant something.

When there was a barrier of entry to be a celebrity, you actually had to have a talent or skill set. What was being famous in the 80s and 90s like? I think if I could go back in a time machine and be young, single, famous, I would not change a thing. I think the 80s was the time. It was pre-cell phones, pre-the internet. It was a magical time.

It was a very fun time without the complications of today. And as you alluded to, it was hard to be famous. It was like anybody today can be famous overnight, which has its own gifts. There's nothing wrong with it. But you did have to really kind of work. If you had social media in the 80s and 90s, do you think you'd have a career now? Do you think you'd be alive? I wouldn't be

alive, and it wouldn't be the social media that would kill me. It would be cheap drugs, better sleeping pills, Viagra, all of it. How have you had a job for so long because there's there's a million and one actors but you stayed consistent how would you say that you stayed consistent for so long um well i i think part of it is i i i don't have the same level of, I don't want to say fear because it sounds like I'm judging other actors, but I'm very eager to jump into new genres.

You know, in the 90s, I jumped into television and that was still a time when like if you had started in movies, you didn't do that. That meant your career was over. And, you know, that ended up being the West Wing. And, you know, I take supporting parts, smaller parts when they're really good for me like and behind the candelabra with steven soderbergh and so i kind of i kind of try to do follow what where the interesting stuff is without thinking about well what does it say what does that mean and then the other thing is i i still want to learn and i'm curious like i'm i'm super curious to to have new experiences and you and your son created this show together right that's right

did your son earn his stripes in this business or did you do the little nepotism thing i did the i did the as any dad would do nepotism thing of would you like to i'd love it if you would meet with my son dope and then and you know it's like um i was talking to steven a yesterday about about lebron and ronnie yeah you're a big lakers fan yeah big lakers fan and i was just saying look that's what dads do and but you know then you got to put up the points or in my kids place you know he when he was a writer's is you got to go get the you get to get coffee, schlep to get the lunches. You know, don't let anybody know who you are.

And then when you start writing, then you better sell something. And, you know, because Hollywood and the NBA are not in the business of giving anybody a free ride at the end of the day. And so you get season two of, you create a show, you've done something. So I opened the door, but he's got to walk in it.

Did you raise your son, John, out of fear or love? And the reason I ask that is because, you know, you've been sober for 30 years, he's been sober for seven years, and I always say my dad raised me out of fear because he didn't want me to make the same mistakes that he made, but I still ended up making them. Sure. So did you raise your son out of fear or love?

Both. Okay. The sobriety thing was like I i knew really early because i have two sons one matthew is in a lawyer and like a businessman he went into like i say real life you know john owen went into my phony baloney acting life um one son i knew was gonna have a normal relationship with drugs and alcohol like his mommy mommy, and the other son, Anu, was going to be like his daddy. How did you know?

How did you know that? Oh, come on, man. You, like, come on. Like, you walk in on that, like the group of kids on the weekend and you surprise them. And, you know, there's one kid who's like, and the other kids are like, and you're like, yeah, he's the one. I mean, you know what, you surprise them. And, you know, there's one kid who's like, and the other kids are like,

and you're like, yeah, he's the one. I mean, you know what, you just know. And so happily, because I have been there, I know there's only one way to make it happen and the parents can't do shit. So you got to let them go through it. You can't do it. The parents can't do anything.

You can't get sober for anybody other than you. I don't care if it's your girlfriend, your mom, the law, whatever the hell it is. It doesn't make any difference. You have to be ready. So by the grace of God, Johnny, God bless him, got his senior year at college. He decided he'd had enough, and he came to dad,

and I said, I know what to do now and so i got into the right people and um and we're a member of one of the great clubs in the world i think of people in recovery because let's face it people are out there partying and getting it on are fun they're fun they're funny they're smart they're the life of the party they're interesting so those people sober are the sickest so do you wait for somebody to come for both of you wait for do you wait till they come to you and say something or do i you gotta keep them alive your job is keep them alive your job is like is like put the the rails on the uh on the the the when you're bowling you know you put up those

rails so you don't roll in the gutter yeah that's that's all you can do and by the way that's a lot i mean i think particularly young men i think it's like get them to 21 by hook or by crook whatever you gotta do try to help get them so they don't make some horrible decision or hurt themselves or somebody else just get them to 21 their brains calm down, and then you can have a cogent conversation with them. Now you talked about unstable. For people that haven't seen it, break down what unstable is about.

So my son, if you follow him on Johnny Lowe Instagram, he makes a lot of fun of me. He trolls me like no other. I mean, he just, and it makes me laugh so hard. He's a funny little funny boy man and people really got into the stuff he was saying about me and it became a thing like uh i couldn't do an interview without people talking about it so johnny being a smart kid was like i think there people like this dynamic maybe there's a show in it And so we didn't want to play ourselves. So we had to figure out a show that had the thing that people like, which is our dynamic

in a world that we created. And we came up with what's the math that equals what people are responding to. And that is a father who's in the public eye, slightly larger than life, perhaps a little untethered from reality because he's been doing this for so long. And then the son, who is the only one who can speak real people talk to him. So I play a tech guru, unhinged genius.

And John Owen is the son who's trying to live outside that shadow. There's a lot of healing in the show too, though, because you see like the grieving over the loss of the wife and the mom who's trying to live outside that shadow. There's a lot of healing in this show too, though, because you see the grieving over the loss of the wife and the mom. Who added that element? And what part of y'all real life were y'all bringing into the show with that?

So we brought in, in season one, Victor Fresco, who's a very funny writer, producer, who did the Santa Clarita Diet and Better Off Ted. And he brought that in to help humanize my character. And now in season two, we have Andrew Gerland who, who did a show called friends from college that I love. And it's always good.

I think to get a third set of eyes on an idea. And we've had really good collaborators who've helped, but that was, that was something that they added. Did you make your son audition for his own role? I make him audition every day. He, no, he was, and you listen, I was worried about it because, you know, he's acted, he's done some stuff on his own,

but this was a huge leap for him. And in season two, you know, seeing the growth, because we've got some comic killers on the show. I mean, Lamorne Morris is on the show. Lamorne. Who I love. And he's so good in it. We got Fred Armisen who's on it.

Iris Apatow. So Z Johnny really hold his own with that group. This year is great. Did you and your son ever get high together? No. God, no. I've been sober 34 years. Oh, yeah, duh.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, you've been married 29 years too, right? 33? 33? Wow. So when you talk about being unstable, what level of stability has being married for 33 years provided you? Oh, man, it's saved my life, you know, for sure. You know, my wife Cheryl is, you know, she's my, I don't even know how to describe it because she's always been my best friend.

She is the smartest person, the most instinctive person I know and smartest, but like the greatest instincts. And my greatest supporter and a terrific mom so if you know anybody out there if you're lucky enough to get that in your life you're so far ahead of the game what what what made you finally have the you know wherewithal to say you know what i gotta settle down because you was a not only were you a star in the 80s and 90s you were considered what they call a heartthrob sex symbol yeah i was a player i was out. If you think he's sexy, just say that. I said heart throb. I didn't say sex symbol. I said heart throb. Girls will call him a sex symbol. Heart throb. I'll take both,

guys. He'll give you both. I'm happy with both. Clearly he likes both. No, that's not true. I said sex symbol. I'm happy with both. That's alright. I'll take it. Come on, man. I'm a 60-year-old man. I'll take that. We're fighting over you right now, which seems kind of weird and odd, but go ahead. But you know what I mean. I do. You're getting a lot of pussy, Rob. I was having a really good time.

Yeah, yeah. And by the way, that's why I think when I was done, I was done. It's no different than partying. It's like I didn't get cheated. I went down swinging. And so when I was done. Literally. Literally swinging everything all over the place.

Sorry. I'm glad you got all over the place. Sorry. I'm glad you got it. It took a minute. I got it, but I didn't. But so when I was done, I was done. You know, I have no illusions. I left it all on the, whatever analogy you want to use, I left it all on the field.

Did you have, was your sex tape the first leaked sex tape ever? Yes. Yeah, you invented the sex tape. That was 88, right? He said you invented the sex tape. I invented it. You did. Celebrity sex tape the first leaked sex tape ever? Yes. Yeah, you invented the sex tape. That was 88, right? He said you invented the sex tape. I invented it. You did. Celebrity sex tape.

Yeah, but I was stupid enough. See, here's the thing is, being first isn't always best. Because, like, nobody monetized it. Like, you know, it made Kim K, but it almost ruined me. I mean, it's a big difference. Why did it almost ruin you? Because you had an image of them all? Dude, so if you were to go back and look at the nightly news from whatever that came out, Tom Brokaw.

Good evening. No. This is NBC News. All right. Actor Rob Rowe. And the whole thing. And then they go. And in other news, in Tiananmen Square, democracy rose as a man stood in front of a,

Tiananmen Square was the second story on the news. How did the tape leak? Was it your tape? You were recording somebody broken in your house or something? Like, how did it leak? It got stolen.

But, you know, look, man, it's like, it's one of those things that led me to where I am. You know, I have no regrets in my life. And I've thought about it, man. I really, really have is because I've always learned more from the mistakes and the screw ups. By the way, that watch is so sick.

Oh, thank you. Jesus Christ. Thank you. You said it changed the trajectory of your life, though. Thank you. Yeah, 100%. But in a bad way, you mean? No, no, in a good way. Okay, why? Yeah it's it started me thinking about what am i really doing here who am i hanging

out with and uh you know you're only as good as the company you keep and you then i looked around and um met my my wife cheryl about a year after that. And it wasn't like I had an overnight conversion on anything, but I realized that it's like, what do they say? It's time to put, you know, it was time to move on to a different life. Do you think it made your stock rise up because, you know, a lot of women got to see what you was working with? I hope so.

I mean, listen, I can't be the judge of that now. Yes, you can. Yeah, you got a ruler. What are we talking about? Is it true during that time in the 80s, Pat Riley also banned you from the Lakers hotel? Yeah, he banned me. 100% banned me. Why?

Why? Because of that. Why? Come on. Think he wanted of that. Because of a sister? Come on. Think he wanted Irvin messed up in that shit? Look at Michael Cooper all out there. So you went out with the Lakers all the time. They were wilding too though. And they were wilding.

You party party with them before? Those are my guys. I love that era so much. I love those men so much. And, you know, it just just i wonder if like i go to laker games still but and i love all of it it's i mean come on man that was the fucking captain yeah what's the craziest thing that happened when i was saying names the craziest night the craziest night was when uh it was during the pistons the first pistons final in detroit and

those days the the uh schedule was like what, 2-3-2, I think. So you would, you'd have these three games, which were forever. They were an eternity. And you're in Detroit for like, you know, a long time. And you're out, you know. So I sent some friends up to somebody's room. What, at a place? Yeah. On the opposite team opposite team no on our team and

riley found out about it and that's why he banned me and then the other the other one that really but no one know about is um i took i took one of the one of my guys out to uh mr chow's and those are the days when i was doing my thing. And I took something, and he goes, what's that? I go, it's called a Quaalude. I want to try that. He went 0 for 34. Jesus Christ. I mean, if you look up the stats, you'll know who it was.

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Okay. The next day. He played it on day. Okay. Played the next day. He blamed it on you. What's wrong, Rob Lowe? Is it true? I read that you once coached Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson. I did. Coached them where?

Yeah. Yeah. So Magic used to have an amazing fundraiser. I want to say it was for United Negro College Fund. I want to say it was at the negro college fund i want to say it was at the forum every summer and you had to show like if you were in the nba nba and you got the call from him you showed so every star you can imagine played and um arsenio coached one side and i coached the other it tells you exactly like what era it is right and uh it was the first time that mj and and magic

played together on the same team and we scored we like i did anything they scored 200 points and lost right who did they play against the other team was carl malone clyde drexler um those the two i really remember um and i remember that i called a timeout towards the end of the game just so I could be involved and everybody was laughing and I look over at Michael and he was like dead eyed and everybody's laughing and all of a sudden people realized that Michael wasn't laughing and they all looked at him and goes, Hey man, we're going to win this motherfucker. I mean, everybody was like, Oh, uh, Oh, okay. going to win this motherfucker. And everybody was like, oh, oh, okay. We didn't know that was how it was.

Right. And so then everybody played defense and still lost. But I saw firsthand, like, Michael doesn't play. He's super, super good. And it was also the first time he ever shot free throws with his eyes closed. Really? Which I think he went on to do once at least. In NBA, yeah, he did once. He did. This was the first time he ever shot free throws with his eyes closed. Really? Which I think he went on to do once at least. In the NBA, yeah, he did once in the league.

He did. This was the first time he did it. I want somebody to look up the 0 for 34 shoot instead. I need to know who that was. One of these internet sleuths will figure it out. Yeah. Was Hollywood in the 80s really as evil as people made it out to be?

Well, in what sense? Tell me, tell me when you, like when you see all these horror, you see these documentaries now and they got the creepy music playing and everybody was on drugs. No. It was way more innocent because we didn't know what we didn't know. I mean, listen, when I came up.

That's a good point. Because, dude, when I came up, my heroes were all on blow. I don't want to name names of the actors. But, again, you could do the math they all lived on Mulholland and they all were single and they all were getting after it every single night and winning academy awards and they'd roll the Laker

games and dude I just modeled my life after my heroes and cocaine was just regular and it was pure it's what you did if you were successful and smart and by the way in the beginning they thought it was good for you. Really? Yeah.

Nobody knew. It hadn't brought a generation to its knees yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It hadn't. And so, again, we didn't know what we didn't know. It's like anything else, what we know about how we treat people in the workplace. You know, today is a completely different time. I mean, Warner Brothers gave, you know,

all of us underage kids booze on the set of The Outsiders. Studio. It's just, people didn't know. We didn't know any better. Is that why you and Tom Cruise got in a fight? Y'all drunk? We weren't drunk when we fought.

We were training. We were doing like a fight night before there was a fight night in the hallway because we were just young dudes with testosterone. Like real fight in that slap box, like fight, fight. And we had full gear on, headgear, gloves. So you, Tom Cruise, Matt Dillon, Patrick Swayze. Matt didn't do any of the athletics.

Okay. None, zero. Matt, I love Matt. Most unathletic movie star who ever lived. Patrick Swayze, God bless the day. He was a baller. He was super athletic. Emilio Estevez.

Another one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it was me, Emilio, and Tom were the ones who trained all the time. And part of the training was boxing. And I got off a clean one once, and that was the end. Then Tom just went wild.

So he was mad you hit him? He's just competitive. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was great, but that's what, it's like, if you guys were in college and screwing around

with your fellas in a frat or whatever, whatever that would look like is what we did. Gotcha. In the hotel, because we were, you know,

17, 18, 19 year old kids. And where were your parents? Like when the executives were feeding y'all booze and stuff kids and where were your parents like when the executives were feeding y'all booze and stuff like where were the parents of the guardians well that was at 18 you didn't have to have a guardian i turned 18 on the set of the outsiders uh it was the drinking age in some states back then um again we didn't know we didn't know and uh didn't know. But Tommy, he was a kid. Tommy was 15. And he was just getting after it. Wow. Pony Boy.

Stay cool, Pony Boy. Tom Cruise was 15? Tommy Howell. Oh, Tommy Howell. Okay, okay. Pony Boy sounds crazy. That was his nickname? Yeah, Outsider.

Oh, yeah, yeah, in the movie. Okay, okay, got you. Pony Boy's a good nickname. Got you. Wow. Would you ever make a movie about that era and really tell the truth? I would.

I wrote a book about it, and there's a chapter or two. There's more than a few chapters called Stories I Only Tell My Friends. You can get it on Amazon. There's some good stuff in it there, but I've never really. I may do a documentary. I'm talking to some folks about doing a documentary because I like what you said about you didn't know

what you just didn't know and that's why I think it's like even nowadays I think cancel culture is over but how do you judge people for what they did tell me what you think it's over I'm super curious because you sit right in the culture if anybody would know you would know you guys why do you think it's over?

Because everybody realizes this is a circular firing squad and nobody's perfect and you're going to end up taking out, either you're going to get shot or you're going to end up taking out somebody

that you really care for. I just think it's a circular firing squad. It's not sustainable. I love that. I hope you're right. Yeah. And you got to give people grace.

And I think everybody has some type of dirt or something on them that you don't want it to fire back at you. For sure, right? It feels like it, right? It feels like it's coming to an end a little bit.

I forgot what I even asked you. I'm sorry. I turned it around and asked you a question. I blew your whole momentum. You know what it is? You do have 80s dreamy eyes, bro. So you know how you're on a sitcom and you turn like this? Oh, I gave you the Robert robert redford half over exactly yeah when it's just when you kind of half over your shoulder exactly yeah

yeah old bobby redford invented that shit who's bobby redford robert redford oh shit so you'd be calling i don't know making it up making them like hollywood now do i like it yeah um it's funny because so we're here promoting the show right my son is 28 he so i remember that era i mean i was already married and sober by 28 but you know my point being he's a young actor in new york city just you know it's the world is his oyster and I look at what how he sees the world vis-a-vis Hollywood and how I see it and you know he's down at the

Bowery and he's got this one and that one he's walking around he's doing his thing and all I want to do is run the reservoir in Central Park get some room service and go to bed and because is run the reservoir in Central Park, get some room service and go to bed. And because, so do I love Hollywood? I love working in Hollywood.

I love what happens when people come together to create. I love the adrenaline of what is the next thing. I love when people on the street stop and say, hey, I can't wait for Unstable or I've seen it. I love all of that. That never gets old. But everything else around it, been there, done that. I just wonder what's missing because y'all came up in a time and everybody was a fucking mess. But it never seemed like that mess really leaked out to the public unless like it was like a extreme extreme

situation but now it just seems like everybody's stuff is out there i don't know if it's because it's self-inflicted in social media i don't know what it is well listen if you if you went to a a nightclub or whatever and in the day and were doing whatever you were doing and everybody saw it who who are who are they going to tell? They tell somebody and they don't believe it or whatever. And now we're at a place where you photograph it or say it's happening right now. And it's, everybody knows every thing. Um, and, and I think, I think that's, that's the, and also people are also much more open. I mean, there's a time you know young young folks

can't even fathom this where you didn't even come in and do what i'm doing like you didn't see warren baity like my i'm talking movie star icons right at the time you didn't see warren baity do any interviews for anything it's like beneath them and and and then on and on and on so again like now you've got, if you're opening, if you're doing Twister, you got them running around the country doing song and dance numbers in every city

to open up that movie. And that didn't, you know, it was way, way more private. But that's because, was it because y'all were proven movie stars already though? So it's just like, if we know this group of people are going to be in a movie,

or Warren Beatty's starting a movie, I'm going to see it. That's exactly, that's also part of it. You're right. There's, you know, there were three networks on TV.

So many other options now. Yes. So many. And everything's so segmented. So whatever you're into, there's a whole silo just for you. And, and that,

and what you're into can be as niche as niche, niche, niche can be, and you can find your community. And in the old days, those niche entertainment needs went unfulfilled. Right. And so all you had was broad entertainment.

Will there ever be any new movie stars ever again? Will there ever be a... Not like there were. Yeah. Because the world's different Will there ever be a... Not like there were. Yeah. Because the world's different. Yeah. I mean, not like the world. And I think, I wonder, it's the same musicians,

it's the same movie stars. It's funny, athletes though, they're still superstars like they used to be, even maybe more so today. But in movies and music, I feel like you're never going to see the likes of the kind of stars that were created when stars had to really earn their way in. I think the athletes might not be the same either, though, because the athletes of that era actually cared about winning more than anything. Oh, don't get me started.

You know? So it's like that's how you become an icon the reason you look at jordan when you look at jordan magic or brady is because they actually won a lot well they were they were as interested if not more well here's the thing i just i you go back to to the lakers it's like it's so hard for me to watch the nba now because i just know all those guys are bros. Well, they definitely are because they're talking about, hey, do we want to play together here and there? Can you imagine that conversation going on between Charles Barkley and Magic or Patrick Ewing? No, they wanted to murder each other out on the floor.

So it's just a different, again, I'm not saying it's better or worse, but it's not the same. You consider Bron a Laker? Again, that's a No, he's got championships with multiple teams. Yeah. But that doesn't make him not a Laker. He got one with the Lakers. But I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm saying multiple teams. I'm talking about statue

and would you want a statue of Bron in front of the Staples Center? Yeah. Not Staples, of course. For sure. Oh, yeah, for sure. Really? I mean, he won a championship. He's, you know, in the top three. I'm getting in trouble. Whoever played, one, two, or three. Yeah, but is he an all-time Laker, though?

He's not an all-time Laker. Yeah. He just isn't. He's not. Because he is, and I don't mean this as a pejorative, but he's a little bit of a mercenary. You know, he goes where he, as mercenary. He goes where he should. He goes where he wants to go, does what he wants to do.

Why wouldn't he? But that culture didn't exist. I mean, again, you would never. Do you remember when Michael couldn't get past Cleveland? Do you remember that era? No, the Pistons. Oh, yeah, Cleveland too. Do you remember that?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember that era? Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely. So what if Michael had said, you know what? I'm going to go play Brad Daugherty in Cleveland. Brad Daugherty and Mark Price.

Mark Price. Those guys. But remember, they were killing him. Yep. Yep. So it's just a different time. Well, Rob has to go. Yeah, I know.

All right, Rob. You guys have the sickest watches. I'm sorry. Oh, thank you. It's just a little something. Thank you. It's just a little nothing. Thank you so thank you. It's just a little nothing. Thank you so much.

Your watch is clean too, though. Yes, it is. Yeah, that's clean. I went my day one, my every day. That's your every day? That's my every day. Paddocks, every day. I'm not mad at you.

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